Boy, would I love to see one of those fly again. perhaps a modern rebuild (with a modern engine! ) like they did with the Me262
@fredferd965
3 жыл бұрын
You could not fly an original He162 under any conditions. The fuselage was metal, but the wings were made of wood glued and bonded together under late wartime conditions, mostly made by slave labor. The original glue factory was bombed and the Germans had to switch to an inferior glue which rotted the wood. At least two airplanes came apart in the air because of this. Likewise, the engine was primitive. There were no high temperature metal alloys available, and the engines had a very short life. From what I've read, Bob Hoover test flew an He162 out at Edwards AFB (then Muroc) and it frightened him by making constant squeeking noises, sounds of wood flexing, etc. He went around the pattern once and got it on the ground as fast as he could, and then walked away from it. The only thing you could do, if plans are available, is to build a new aircraft using modern materials, and then either use a modern engine, or use an original engine with an entirely new hot section also made of modern materials. That's what they're doing with one Me262, but I think they're taking a risk doing it.
@NathanDudani
3 жыл бұрын
@@fredferd965 thanks
@chris_hisss
2 жыл бұрын
Yes yes me too. Fantastic simple design. I don't think it would be worth building in wood, as that tends to be way too heavy to be worth it, and the 262 is using General Electric J85 engines and have had numerous safety features added to them, such as landing gear that has been reinforced and strengthened and upgraded sturdier brakes. As well as some refinement, considering we could fine tweak the small things, like air inlet, etc. As well as adding some kind of special protection for the pilot like roll cage. The thing would have made a horrible fighter, but essentially they were making the Beetle of the air, which is just fascinating to think about. Scary dangerous though...
@stevetheduck1425
4 ай бұрын
The He-162 captured and flown in Britain broke up in the air due to the vertical stabiliser ( fin and rudder ) on one side collapsing when the pilot attempted an aileron roll at normal speeds. This was a known fault, Heinkel believed they had designed that problem out of the later ones built, but it seems not. The plane was not safe to fly when new, even when Heinkel maintenance guys were on hand to keep it 'worked up'.
@user-lj9eu1wp8c
10 ай бұрын
Шедевр,инженерной мысли,просто браво
@werknummer
16 жыл бұрын
Just amazing! Impeccable workmanship and attention to accuracy.
@robajohnson
11 жыл бұрын
A Thing of Beauty. I so admire simple yet EFFECTIVE engineering. The Germans of that era excelled at those qualities!
@earlyhemibill
9 жыл бұрын
Good video for us modelers. I'm drawing plans for a 162 in 1/6 scale at almost 48" for control line flying. This video will help a lot with the building of the landing gear.
@JessHull
3 жыл бұрын
did you ever complete it ?
@earlyhemibill
3 жыл бұрын
@@JessHull Not yet. Working on a motor for it now. If it works, will build the model.
@memorialflight
13 жыл бұрын
@tommiatkins The restoration of the Heinkel 162 is now over (check our website). The aircraft is now waiting to be displayed in le Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace at Le Bourget airport. Although the engine is in excellent condition, it cannot be run without the museum authorization as it is a part of the collection. However this would be very risky (unsafe ?)
@stevetheduck1425
5 ай бұрын
The sounds made by that undercarriage retracting and the doors closing reminds me of something. The movie Dune ( 1984 ), had a Navigator being moved around in a large locomotive-like chamber. The chamber made creaking, clunking noises and had sudden escapes of pressurised air, much like this planes' undercarriage. Unexpected. Now I wonder where the sound effects used in the film came from...
@revodes21
15 жыл бұрын
That . . . is . . . beautiful, I could cycle it all day and just watch it and feel it - gorgeous. I just love WWII German aircraft, engineering brilliance.
@randyhester3340
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic reference for the 3D model I'm trying to make in Blender. Clearances for the landing gear are one of the trickiest parts of an accurate reproduction.
@BeliVolk
15 жыл бұрын
Great! Bring this old beauty to life!
@johnassal5838
3 жыл бұрын
I have to admit that little window to see if the nose gear is down is pretty clever.
@PORRRIDGE_GUN
4 жыл бұрын
This fighter was remarkable in how long it took from concept drawings to first flight. 6 weeks! A testament to the designer Ernst Heinkel and his team. I t was built largely out of wood and used a 'surplus' BMW003 engine. Originally planned to have two 30mm cannons that was soon found to have too heavy a recoil for such a lightweight aircraft, so a pair of 20mm cannons were installed instead. It was designed to be cheap, easy to build at dispersed sites and basically, disposable after cannibalising any still usable parts for future airframes. Given a longer development time, a JJ04 engine, and a pair of 30mm cannon, it would have been an absolute terror after all the kinks had been ironed out. But Germany's real problem wasn't a lack of aircraft, it was a lack of pilots, which were not being replaced at anything close to the loss rate. By late 1944, the flying training program was short of instructors, fuel and airframes to train on. It also lost air superiority over it's own training fields and dual instruction trainers were lost which meant a loss of student, instructor and airframe. Even pilots who completed the rudimentary training given were a liability to themselves. A full 50% of Me109G/K airframes losses between March 1944 and March 1945 were due to pilot error, mostly due to crashes shortly after take-off. The remainder were crash landings or taxiing mishaps. Many newer pilots were lost on their first few operational sorties, due to poor training and being significantly outnumbered.
@jimshoe402
2 жыл бұрын
cheap like me..
@GCOLE2
14 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is great! I wish I would have seen this BEFORE I built my Revell 1/32/He 162!
@atreyuprincipalh4043
4 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful post
@hmjets
14 жыл бұрын
fantastic airplane,very nice video!!
@EnterpriseXI
13 жыл бұрын
@memorialflight ok i can respect that. so thank you for restoring a pies of history.
@LorenzoB16
12 жыл бұрын
Facinating little window.
@Trent772
16 жыл бұрын
Lovely stuff!
@tommiatkins
13 жыл бұрын
brilliant. Hope you get the engine going too!
@memorialflight
13 жыл бұрын
@elwman That would have been a great idea. But unfortunately, we couldn't do it due to a lack of time (we have some other great restorations going on...). The aircraft isn't in our workshop anymore, as the restoration is over.
@SjaakTrekhaak23
11 жыл бұрын
Like the cracking and cloncking ;)
@memorialflight
13 жыл бұрын
@johntjg The Heinkel is in storage right now, at Le Bourget. It is waiting to be displayed, in the public part of the museum...
@memorialflight
13 жыл бұрын
@EnterpriseXI This aircraft is not the property of the Memorial Flight Association. It belongs to the Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace (French Air & Space Museum). None of their aircraft is allowed to fly. However we had the opportunity to restore this Heinkel 162 as close to flying conditions as possible, which was quite a unique opportunity.
@shotibf109G2
14 жыл бұрын
ufffff! click clack and go!!! i love it!! nice! not nice BRILLIANT video! WELL done!
@TRINFSS
Ай бұрын
Engineering beauty
@memorialflight
13 жыл бұрын
@popsaka1 The He-162 was restored for static display only. It is now in Storage at the Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace near Paris, waiting to be displayed to the public. More on the restoration at : memorial.flight.free.fr
@stuka97
11 жыл бұрын
That is just to damm cool!
@condorcircus323
3 жыл бұрын
Until the glue falls apart
@urbansoldier1
3 жыл бұрын
nice restoring.... and wow, my pioneer 300 has "the same" safety window inside to see if the frontgear is in... horrido memorial flight👍
@EnterpriseXI
13 жыл бұрын
@memorialflight but like the 262 u think one day someone will make a flyable replica only with a more safer and reliable engine? that would be awsome
@memorialflight
12 жыл бұрын
@n74jw Yes they are... Simple, but reliable design.
@hipotos
16 жыл бұрын
Perfect!
@jpatt1000
15 жыл бұрын
Will this actually be flown post restoration?
@choctaw111
15 жыл бұрын
I did not know this was being done. Fantastic! When is it projected to be completed. What type of engine will be used?
@player1GR
14 жыл бұрын
will this fly again? pleeease say yes
@tz138
12 жыл бұрын
@elwman Contact the Planes of Fame museum in Chino, California. They have one of these parked in their forign hangar.
@n74jw
12 жыл бұрын
Pretty basic design. Are those springs actuating the main gear? I like the little window for the nose wheel.
@EnterpriseXI
13 жыл бұрын
@memorialflight i know right. Germany did not make the safest and reliable jet engines in the world. but to me it just looks like just the turbine blades can just be replaces with better quality medal. will that work or will the engine have to be completely redesigned?
@memorialflight
13 жыл бұрын
@elwman Sorry, but we don't have the aircraft in the hangar anymore, so we can't give you those infos. There probably was a misunderstanding about the 21 color. It is certainly not white ! Good luck for your model.
@ThinkingManNeil
16 жыл бұрын
Is she being restored to fly? N.
@jimmyboomsemtex9735
2 жыл бұрын
wow. now 2022 where is the jet?
@memorialflight
13 жыл бұрын
@elwman The tail is in RLM76. The fuselage is not painted in RLM color, but in a gray-green color comonly used on late german aircrafts [look at the recently painted He219 fuselage from the NASM] (very similar to english duck-egg green). Although many books say it is RLM76, we did find the 2 dinstinct colors on the tail & fuselage. The 21 is yellow because we find some yellow traces under the paint & we have 2 original photos of the aircraft showing it's not white. Why do you think it's white ?
@chuckschillingvideos
7 жыл бұрын
That grey-green is commonly (and inappropriately, in my opinion) labeled as RLM84 by many. In my opinion it is just a poorly formulated attempt to product RLM76 or RLM78 by paint factories with low stocks of the correct raw materials or even improvised at the sub-assembly manufacturing sites.
@zorngottes1778
3 жыл бұрын
Will it fly?
@MrZlodeus
14 жыл бұрын
Looks a bit odd with the gear units retracting/extending one at a time rather than all together.
@SjaakTrekhaak23
11 жыл бұрын
Whats the purpose of the red lever in fron of the cockpit, above the nose gear actuator. Is it an indicator i.e.?
@gapratt4955
4 жыл бұрын
Down and locked indicator. Watch how it moves, that shows it is locking.
@rideyourbikent
5 жыл бұрын
Great mechanical system
@tommiatkins
13 жыл бұрын
@memorialflight thats great news. Shame about the engine. It would be wonderful if the machine could fly again. A remarkable peice of history.
@Ignorantissimus
11 жыл бұрын
What I most admire in technology and in character of the Germans (they never proved obtuse or incapable if not of blind obedience, as he would like some sinister propaganda) is the ability to adapt to the most different circumstances - from Russian winter in 1941-42 (engaged with a disastrous equipment) to opposedly hostile climate in the deserts of North Africa - from unsurpassed elegance of Zeiss optics to the shocking simplicity of the Sturmgewehr - from 520 HP Auto Union to 25 HP Kubelwagen
@chuckschillingvideos
7 жыл бұрын
You omitted the Panzerfaust, which was incredibly easy to use, reliable and effective. The Germans could hand them out like candy to soldiers with the briefest of training and nearly any German soldier could take out any allied or Russian tank had he the daring to get in close.
@MeAbroad2004
13 жыл бұрын
it feels like a house of horrors...the way doors and windows open and close on their own.....but with a Salamander :-)
@GrigoriZhukov
13 жыл бұрын
@memorialflight considering how unreliable and how short a cycle time those engines had? It'd be crimminal to run an original imo. BUT that should stop anyone from building copy with better materials and a higher state of fit and finsih running on. ;^) But I'm crazy that way.
@EnterpriseXI
13 жыл бұрын
@memorialflight then whats the point of doing a full restoration if this will never fly with a fully working landing gear system?
@stevetheduck1425
4 ай бұрын
Conservation of what exists, learning the methods used in manufacture and maintenance, knowledge that can be used on other projects, and maintenance of what remains, to keep it existing. There are 'restorations' of planes around the world that are made of sheet steel and wood, essentially a dummy aircraft, sometimes with some small parts of a real plane. In Burma, there are Spitfires with only the rear fuselage and one wing 'real', the rest mocked up.
@memorialflight
14 жыл бұрын
@EnterpriseXI Actually this He-162 Wk.Nr120015 belongs to the Musée de l'Air et de L'Espace. It has been restored for static display only.
@measyxrs
3 жыл бұрын
I’m not understanding the thumbs down for this video. Why?
@MyLateralThawts
4 жыл бұрын
Tests cannot be complete, unless you also tested the 20 mm cannons.
@tombmaster972
10 жыл бұрын
and this small window between the pilots legs shows if the landing gear is retracted or not? really primitive but cool german technology!
@Clebbsi
7 жыл бұрын
Also the little red stick in front of the cockpit would pop up as the gear comes down, you can see it quite well in the video.
@warrensmith2902
5 жыл бұрын
They use windows for down and locked checks even on Boeing jets
@KarlKonrad52
5 жыл бұрын
A good example of German engineering that’s still being used for modern Aircraft today. Thanks for that info Warren!
@johnnecron666
15 жыл бұрын
we had no idea how to design landing gear in America until we smuggled some of Germanys top landing gear engineers out of the country at wars end. We just used ropes and pulleys to get the job done. It gave our pilots good exercise
@LandersWorkshop
4 жыл бұрын
No way man, say it ain't so Joe.
@EnterpriseXI
14 жыл бұрын
is there a chance that one of these beauty's or a repica will one day be reborn and fly like the Me-262?
@chuckschillingvideos
7 жыл бұрын
It is a simple design intended to be constructed entirely of non-exotic materials using primitive manufacturing processes. There is no reason on earth an enterprising soul could not put such an aircraft together. Bear in mind, pilot safety was priority #1,343,888 when the Luftwaffe was soliciting designs for the Volksjager.
@LandersWorkshop
4 жыл бұрын
@@chuckschillingvideos You say that but not quite, those things had functioning ejection seats which saved lives (if the canopy blew clear that was). Allied planes didn't have ejection seats.
@chuckschillingvideos
4 жыл бұрын
@@LandersWorkshop Considering they were putting essentially untrained pilots (Hitler Jugend) into these things, the likelihood that the poor soul(s) inside would have been able to safely eject in the (very) probable event of an emergency would be quite remote in my estimation. These things were exceedingly difficult to fly unless you were an experienced pilot. They would have been death traps for a novice.
@LandersWorkshop
4 жыл бұрын
@@chuckschillingvideos Although the original intention was to put glider-trained pilots from HY etc they didn't as a result of the plane needing more experienced pilots. So stop trying to play the SJW card on me snowflake. You can check wiki which, unusually gets the facts right.
@chuckschillingvideos
4 жыл бұрын
@@LandersWorkshop Not trying to "play" any cards at all. The fact remains that these were very dangerous aircraft to fly, with or without ejection seats and if you think pilot safety was such a huge concern for the Luftwaffe at this stage of the war kindly explain the BA-349 or FI-103.
@EnterpriseXI
13 жыл бұрын
@jpatt1000 i dont think this bird will ever fly again. probably because there rare birds
@EnterpriseXI
13 жыл бұрын
@player1diao i dont think it never will
@EnterpriseXI
13 жыл бұрын
@memorialflight im sorry but i just don't see the point of doing a complete restoration on this aircraft. why bother restoring it as close to flying condition as possible if this bird will never fly again? i can understand why you would restore the landing gear so it can be displayed on the ground or the cealling but WHY a complete restore?
@stevetheduck1425
4 ай бұрын
To preserve an example of Nazi desperation for future generations. In the NASM store in the USA there is a Ki-115, a 'minimum fighter' made of simple sheet steel, with a fall-off undercarriage. This was intended to be a suicide plane to use up the older aero engines the Japanese had lying around, and of course all the still-alive barely-trained pilots they had left. They had trouble testing it, or learning to fly it, as it couldn't land, not having an undercarriage after take-off. Another example of just what political creatures will do to keep their jobs ( and lives ) a few days more. - and completely useless.
@nezircaglar2381
4 жыл бұрын
he 162 landing gear test
@strenggeheim6672
Жыл бұрын
Wenn's quietscht oder knarrt, hat Metall Schmerzen! Ölen oder fetten! 😏
@EnterpriseXI
13 жыл бұрын
@beowulf342000 i thought the Jumo engine had a life of just one day
@chuckschillingvideos
7 жыл бұрын
Which would still be longer than the average life expectancy of an HE-162 combat pilot.
@LandersWorkshop
4 жыл бұрын
That was the Komet, the Jumo-engines with proper alloys would last longer.
@EnterpriseXI
4 жыл бұрын
Watch Ryder yes but when the Me-262 entered service in 1944, the Germans didn’t have access to the medals that would make their jets more reliable. And remember, the 262 wasn’t the only jet aircraft using the Jumo engines
@EnterpriseXI
4 жыл бұрын
Watch Ryder also the Me-163, because it was such a dangerous aircraft because of the fuel it used, The pilots probably had a life expectancy of one day.
@EnterpriseXI
4 жыл бұрын
Watch Ryder look it up roughly 25 hours before the engine needed to be overhauled
@chuckschillingvideos
7 жыл бұрын
The landing gear was more than likely just to give the poor pilots false hope they might survive their combat mission. The HE-162 would likely have been a suicide mission for the vast majority of the pilots unlucky enough to buckle up and take off most of whom would have received only rudimentary flight training, never mind combat tactics and gunnery training. Their only possible tactic would have been to attempt to close in to the bombers to point blank range and US fighters would have had their way with them.
@nagmashot
6 жыл бұрын
you should watch the video He 162 test pilot with US background who moved to USA after ww2 and join the US air force... Germany never gave that jet into unexperienced hands... even as a youth he become a test pilot but already had tons of advance glider training and other skills on fighter like the Fw 190... to his words the He 162 was not easy to fly.. like all extrem maneuverble fighter it was slightly instable and needed skilled pilot...of the 50 factory test pilots only 5 survived... BUT and here comes the big but... the reason for most deadly accidents was winter time...totaly icy runway with snow/ice walls at the side... he claimed it was very difficult to hold the plane straight after landing and braking many He 162 just started to slide on the ice and crashed into the snow icewall at the side of the runways with deadly result for the pilot. He claimed it was joy to fly the He 162
@mandernachluca3774
5 жыл бұрын
Just so you know, the germans were the first to issue ejection seats in their fighters. The He 162 is one of them. You see, no suicide mission, since basically couldn't afford to lose more pilots....
@KarlKonrad52
5 жыл бұрын
Hey Mandernach Luca, very all said indeed. I’m glad you summed up that Heinkel He 162 pilots weren’t always flying suicide missions even though every day that passed by, the Third Reich was near the brink of collapsing. I do agree that there was a real reason why they added an ejection seat in the fighter itself. It wouldn’t make sense why they would install it, if they couldn’t afford losses of their pilots returning from their sorties. Anyway, I wanted to also give you a fun fact that the Heinkel He 219, a German night fighter, was also equipped with these first ejection seats. However, I’m unsure which German aircraft were the first to have these equipped.
@chuckschillingvideos
4 жыл бұрын
@@KarlKonrad52 The ejection seat was mandated by the fact that had they NOT put one it there would have been absolutely no way on earth any pilot would have entered it. There would have been no way to exit the damn thing in flight. Not even a test pilot would have been brave/stupid enough to get into one of the contraptions otherwise.
@memorialflight
13 жыл бұрын
@EnterpriseXI doing half of the restoration work is not a good restoration... Restoring an aircraft is not just making it look clean... The goal is to have the aircraft back to its original condition
@chuckschillingvideos
7 жыл бұрын
That isn't always feasible. Original HE-162 parts are not exactly dropping from trees and are of dubious manufacture quality.
@stevetheduck1425
4 ай бұрын
The low-quality wood and low-quality glues preclude flying an original, especially with a low-quality jet of very limited endurance. The finished plane was unsafe anyway, even by desperation 1945 standards. Pilots died simply trying to get from one airfield to another. This is easy to discover. Not to mention the captured planes that broke up in normal flight when being studied. It might be better to build a replica, like the replica Me-163 glider, or the replica Me-262s.
@EnterpriseXI
13 жыл бұрын
@ThinkingManNeil sorry no
@burningb2439
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing how the Germans still went overboard on a last ditch fighter .
@garybanglebangle7949
5 жыл бұрын
Nice very nice but not too good.
@user-pv3mu6ow7v
Жыл бұрын
В той час були Інженери з Великої букви ,не то що тепер ,їх зовсім немає.😀✌🏻👎🏽
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