READ BEFORE COMMENTING: 1) Super Earth and Old Earth are two different planets! 2) That the failed war cutscene from HD1 is not canon Love the feedback and thoughts everyone! I am more inclined to 1) being true! Definitely something to look forward to in a future Lore Video ❤
@C4MG1RL
4 ай бұрын
Super Earth is our Earth. The losses of the first game aren't canon to HD2. Zoom in on Super Earth in game and you can see Mars and it's called the Sol System.
@treyfortson
4 ай бұрын
I dont know how so many people are overlooking this part in HD2. It's right there on the galactic map....
@captainwolf9364
4 ай бұрын
Was just about to comment the same thing lol
@workingZen
4 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing but wonder if that planet is too close to be Mars or coicidence and we called it Mars and sol system to feel like its home. But I personally think that is Mars and Super Earth is our Earth.
@nathanielrasey
4 ай бұрын
That and so many people think that because they keep getting wasted in missions, that must mean that helldivers have a high mortality rate and they are just dumb fodder. If that were true we would see mountatins of helldiver corpses on the planets yet we don't see one. Only ones we see are of the basic foot soldiers or of civilians. I think the helldivers are actually and elite force of highly trained personel. Why else would we be able to call airstrikes where ever and whenever we want without approval and why else would there be a shuttle to pick us back up. Heck the starting armor even says it is made of the same material as the ship we pilot. Why would they waste suck good resorces on a worthless soldier and not give that armor to all of the SEAF forces? I'm sure they still die but I don't think they are throw away fodder like people think they are. That and the Steeled Veteran Warbond shows us that helldivers can come back from life threatening injuries like limb loss.
@C4MG1RL
4 ай бұрын
@@nathanielrasey people think that because it's true tbh. You can find the like lore data for them, the life expectancy is like 2 minutes. Helldivers are the special forces in that we're given the equipment and the missions but not the training because Super Earth has such a ludicrous population they can afford to just keep throwing bodies at the problem. They do not care how many divers die on a mission because they have like 80k recruits a day and they don't care how much ordinance you burn because they have as much money as they want. As far as Super Earth cares you're just a number and are fodder. The only thing that makes Helldivers special outside the gear they have is that they have on average a like 97% loyalty rating. They're fanatics unlikely to turn traitor or even question the government. So they get the special missions likely to expose people to enough hints to figure out they're the bad guys not because they're skilled but because they'll probably ignore or deny it lol
@torgrimhanssen5100
4 ай бұрын
This is hilarious, Svalbard is marked as seed vault as that is where it actually is located in our world.
@wonderwaffle5858
4 ай бұрын
also important to note, in the first game super earth didn’t have the continents we know, but was just a generic, temperate planet. super earth in helldivers 2 visibly has africa front and center, with europe at the top, north american to the left and asia to the right, so unless we’re super good at terraforming, it’s earth earth
@Acrobaticfrog
4 ай бұрын
For the emergency seed vault, that is located on the real world island of Svalbard in the same place, which is home to the Svalbard Global Seed Vault. As a food security measure for Earth's plants it would make sense to have it restricted. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Global_Seed_Vault
@grayjedi-117
4 ай бұрын
I cannot wait to see the community reaction if Super Earth is invaded
@codyraugh6599
4 ай бұрын
If? With how the Defense missions are going that's now "when".
@grayjedi-117
4 ай бұрын
@@codyraugh6599 We must rally for Democracy!
@codyraugh6599
4 ай бұрын
@@grayjedi-117 personally I'm hoping the players can keep the Malevalon Creek spearhead going and force the bots to adopt a wide battlefront, from there we can spearhead into them and cut them apart chunk by chunk.
@HalIOfFamer
4 ай бұрын
@@grayjedi-117 grinders are the biggest problem right now. abandoning a campaign before its finished leads to loss of % of liberty. and there is a sizeable population of people who just do the one mission type that requires to kill 100-200 bots and then leave the rest to look for more easy missions. we lose a lot of points that way.
@SizzleCorndog
4 ай бұрын
Isn’t that the point of the game? Like if we’re going by the first game it’s inevitable that we’re going to get pushed back to the inner systems
@anthonyschueller1284
4 ай бұрын
The term "Super Earth" IRL refers to planets similar to, but more dense than our own planet...
@mlhx9181
4 ай бұрын
Those last rainforests might be important nature reserves as SE's military industrial complex is most likely, not environmentally friendly. Rainforest trees may be the most efficient way to clear up the air. The seed vault may be a backup if some catastrophe, environmental or otherwise, wipe out important plant life. Perhaps certain important crops get wiped out by disease or nuclear winter lays waste to agriculture.
@rekrn12345
4 ай бұрын
The entire deforestation movement is false anyway. At least today more trees are replanted than cut down by a significant margin.
@mjn5016
4 ай бұрын
Super Earth is our Earth tho.
@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462
4 ай бұрын
I just took "Super Earth" to mean everywhere colonised by Earth as opposed to the actual planet.
@darthderpyz4016
4 ай бұрын
Dude you are doing fantastic making videos. I especially love the more relaxed ones since its a really nice vibe that youre creating with these. Keep going man, you are doing great!
@DiscoMouse
4 ай бұрын
Ireland is not missing on the map. It’s also common to omit Antarctica on world maps.
@Davids_Canadian
4 ай бұрын
Great video man, I love all the lore/opinion vids and think it would be cool if you made some gameplay vids as well. The seed vault you mentioned whilst looking at the super earth map exists in real life, it has 10,000 seeds for every plant in the world in case of plague/blight/apocalypse. It is called the Svalbard Global Seed Vault if you want to look into it. (also, in the last video, you mentioned insurgency sandstorm, and I just wanted to say that you should try playing hell let loose. It has the same semi-hardcore basis as insurgency but with a more objective-focused, large-scale battle sim vibe and in World War 2.)
@Dirt1061
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your work and research! I will endevor to make sure Super Earth never faces this fate!
@anteep4900
4 ай бұрын
The fact is; Super Earth in HD2 is our Earth from the real universe.
@Vyxtopher
4 ай бұрын
My head canon is that we, the player, are commanding the ship and send down our own collection of cryo troops one at a time.
@OriginalUnjustifier
4 ай бұрын
Cracking open a 6 pack of cold ones with the boys: The Game.
@sampy901
4 ай бұрын
The other day I had the bald lady that talks to you after missions say she had never seen Super Earth but she hears it is more spectacular in person. Since the map on the ship is a virtual map with Super Earth being the center of the galaxy, I wonder if it's all propoganda and Super Earth is actually just polluted and stuff
@thejoeman4774
4 ай бұрын
i think they just refer to old earth as to earth from long time ago, the earth from before the whole world uniting and transforming to super earth
@DivineStride
4 ай бұрын
Ireland is right there next to where the UK would have been. Though I guess Antarctica would be gone due to ice melting and oceans rising. There isn't a lot of continuous land there. We also have an emergency seed vault for today! I think one of them got flooded due to global warming though. This map is very close to earth if you account for climate change and nuclear wars.
@DivineStride
4 ай бұрын
Considering that the fallout zones are the UK, north Canada, and Moscow, I think we can guess that the last great war was a failed MAD. With two of the great powers gone, that would have left China and the US which would have been bloody, but the US won this one since the Great Wall of China was renamed. Considering the heavy US style propaganda that helldivers is satirizing, it makes a lot of sense for the US to have come out on top in this war. Of course managing all these new territories afterwards would be difficult and I'm sure that's where "managed democracy" was born and spread.
@lordsam808
4 ай бұрын
While I like the concept, I don't think super earth is a new earth as mars is visible in the sequel, aswell as if this were the case then they would need terraforming technology sufficient to recreate earth's continents on a whim, and yet they are powerless to reclaim the wasteland zones. I do think merely they referred to the now destroyed super earth as old earthing that final cutscene.
@wastelanddv8062
4 ай бұрын
You know seed vaults are a real thing right? Like we have those today. Like international Governments have funded them. They are there incase of disaster so we can grow crops again after.
@mr.pickles9791
4 ай бұрын
Imagine making a ministry and name it. Ministry of Lies, but it gives 100% opposite of what the ministy of Truth gives.
@711desmond
4 ай бұрын
5:13 you realize it is quite clearly a stylized map?
@SgtBart-pe2gw
4 ай бұрын
If it isn't ours, did we get a new mars?
@coomtheslayer
4 ай бұрын
The losses are non-canon, theres only one great galactic war as per the dialogue in 2. The ministry of truth would never lie to us
@2TNT
4 ай бұрын
realy good video and you made some good points but I have two argumet agest that theory 1). in Helldievers 2 Super earth is in the Sol system wich is the IRL name for our solar system. 2). in Helldievers 2 the only other planet in Sper earths sector (Sol system) is mars.
@beifa93
4 ай бұрын
One thing is for sure canon,auto canons.
@buttercat7272
4 ай бұрын
So many views yet so little likes :( cmon guys show some love!
@kreepinup2918
4 ай бұрын
1000 subs!!!!
@thebasement5360
3 ай бұрын
Ireland is still there
@25xxfrostxx
4 ай бұрын
If it's not our earth, then I'd like to know how they built a new planet right where the old one was since it's on the map in 2 in the Sol system next to Mars. It is our earth. The failure state of the first game (which is not canonical) refers to "old earth" meaning the one that you just watched blow up. It's pretty simple context.
@the_backburner
4 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Where can I find the ending being non-canonical? Just want to make sure I cite my sources correctly.
@funkrobot9762
4 ай бұрын
@@the_backburnerpretty sure several press releases have stated that the Federation beat the bugs and started farming them for oil, beat the cyborgs, beat the blue guys and took their military away and co opted their technology. Humanity wasn’t able to have light speed travel until they got technology from the blue guys. 100 years later, cyborgs have become automatons (I think) and bugs have broken free of their captivity.
@the_backburner
4 ай бұрын
Yep! Covered this in my Story So Far lore video. Looking for official word on the loss of a war being non canonical.
@MateoSolis96
4 ай бұрын
Just watched the premiere
@lolersauresrex8837
4 ай бұрын
That’s nice and all but in Earths system the only other planet in the system is Mars
@NonPlantBasedOrganism
4 ай бұрын
Mayn gimme
@Hungry_God
4 ай бұрын
Didn't the helldivers of the first game win canonically? like the lore for HD2 is that we won and a new invasion has begun due to some socialist robots and stupid bugs.
@suavitelrocks
4 ай бұрын
The game has very little real lore, I played the first one and there's some kind of in game wiki where you can read a little about the enemies and stuff, there are a little dialogue lines from NPCs here and there and in some loading screens, that's it, almost all of the lore on these KZitem videos are pure fan fiction from reddit, kind of cringe
@ader701220
4 ай бұрын
Funny thing is the Devs doesn't even think about it deeply, they just put all the awesome stuff together and made it more awesome and we the super citizens had to figure it out xD
@workingZen
4 ай бұрын
Im guessing HD2 just resets the timeline so that this game kicks off fresh so that any thing that happened in HD1 was its own thing?
@thejoeman4774
4 ай бұрын
helldivers 2 is canonically a second war, something like 100 years after the war in HD1
@bofasofa9399
4 ай бұрын
Super Earth is our first home. The name was changed from Earth to Super Earth once the world's governments combined into one. Telling youtube to never recommend your channel again. Clickbait is not the way to grow a small channel.
@the_backburner
4 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say this is a clickbait title, all it says is that Super Earth isn’t our first home. Just talking about how I understood the lore. I even say in the video, that I’m not 100% sure on my theories. I do appreciate the feedback!!!
@simonjameskenway6933
4 ай бұрын
Dont be that toxic bro, its just a video of a theory
@Handles_arent_a_needed_feature
4 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure southern ireland is theee isnt it
@codyraugh6599
4 ай бұрын
The fallout zones tell us either Nazis had nukes in WW2, or the last great war is a number larger than 2 when it comes to World Wars. because those Fallout Zones some look like the results of excessive use of tactical nukes, but the England Fallout Zone tells me someone didn't like the British during that war
@xROJANBOx
4 ай бұрын
Perhaps an alternate scenario where Germany somehow wins a world war with nukes is a possabilty, that or Arrowhead just doesn't the UK
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