Looks to me (and felt like when I just used it) that the thermite is not working as intended. The pre explosion burn effect is supposed to melt through the armor, and then the ending explosion should do big damage to the area it just melted through. The idea being that if you get them to land perfectly on say, a Hulk’s face, it should melt through, then explode on the Hulk’s now breached faceplate, and kill it.
@FullOnGritz
5 ай бұрын
I hope this the case
@iggyzeta9755
5 ай бұрын
I've heard that Damage Over Time isn't working as intended, especially when you're not the host
@TheCorrupt
5 ай бұрын
@@iggyzeta9755 The effect is the same when you are playing solo. It either doesn't work properly or the damage really is that pathetic.
@rekrn12345
5 ай бұрын
Nothing in this game seems to work as intended.
@xDjembex
5 ай бұрын
@@rekrn12345 the Auto Cannon would like a word.
@occasionalsnipa9262
5 ай бұрын
PSA: You can quick swap between the eruptor and any weapon (best with pistols) to skip the bolt animation... I learned this from a japanese helldiver shooting the eruptor suspiciously fast XD
@OnlyonXBOXONE
5 ай бұрын
delete this before devs find out
@occasionalsnipa9262
5 ай бұрын
@@OnlyonXBOXONEtruee I havent seen this in a video yet but that guy was a pioneer and I had to share his wisdom
@occasionalsnipa9262
5 ай бұрын
[This comment is under review by the Ministry of Truth]
@johngray3449
5 ай бұрын
In other works it should be a semi, cocking only on magazine reload. No wonder they wanted people who know what they are doing to design guns for them, they suck! I'll stick to fighting the enemy with my cup of Liber-tea.
@occasionalsnipa9262
5 ай бұрын
@@johngray3449✊
@umngyr
5 ай бұрын
it should be noted, that from what i can see, it seems that thermite burn damage is done as fire dot damage, which does not stack. This means that if you stick multiple thermites to an opponent at the same time, the damage from the burn may not stack.
@lexicidal
5 ай бұрын
The second charger (that took 6 grenades) was the behemoth variant with additional armor. You can tell by it's elongated horn and tusks. Still needs significant buffs though...
@henrystenerson2349
5 ай бұрын
I feel like the the thermite will get buffed next patch
@h3II0MN123
5 ай бұрын
Yea it feels very underwhelming compare to impact grenade now. Being a "single target" grenade, I was expecting it to one/two shot most elite enemies
@byronbarrientos8471
5 ай бұрын
I think it's supposed to be used in unison with your primary. Like in a situation where you don't have your strategems or support ammo and have to use your primary. I mean the damage is literly 100. Idk how people saw that and thought wow this a heavy 1 shotter with 100 damage. That's 2 liberator bullets worth. Except it does true damage cause of the penetration. When you shoot armor with your primary you only do 10% of your true damage. So if it takes 3 mags to shoot a charger butt normally I think the thermite is supposed to wittle him down so it only takes like 1 and a half mag. For example, skewers die from a full lib mag. Lib does 55 per bullet. 10% is 5 dmg bullets. 5 x a mag of 50? That's 250 damage, so assume that's their max hp. They also die from impact grenade which does 300. If you throw a thermite now you'll only need 150 worth of damage (25 less bullets, aka half mag) cause therm does 100% of the 100 dmg. I've been using it with that in mind and it's been cool and fun. I hardly ever use grenades to kill heavies anyways but with this now I do and it saves me a railstrike, 110 rocket pod, etc cause I can just shoot my way with the help of the thermite to weaken the enemy. Not supposed to be my 1 shotter.
@Gspi1005
5 ай бұрын
I feel like these should have little to no AoE, but deal damage close to an EAT to a single target. As it stands, its garbage add hoard clear, and not good enough to bring as a dedicated anti-tank tool.
@wassentme1891
Ай бұрын
Yep, since it has both a limited range due to slow trajectory AND it doesn't stick at short range unless you cook it to deploy the spikes, it doing damage equivalent to an EAT is nice and feels fair, especially if it does the damage over a few seconds rather than instantly. Right now the DoT doesn't stack, so it even prevents burst damage. Other people have also mentioned excepting either stripping armor or decreasing the effective value. I like either idea too. What's really annoying is how buggy they are. By how decent they are against tanks and hulks, you would expect them to be decent against factory striders, but it can take ~8 to the belly while impacts to the same panel can kill it in 3-4. Same with chargers v titans, if it can kill titans with just one or two more grenades than it takes for chargers, something must be bugged.
@grawlix_tv
5 ай бұрын
At the 2:00 mark, did anyone else notice he was on difficulty 3 and it took 2 thermite grenades to kill that bile spewer?
@Error-rc9es
5 ай бұрын
imho thermites should reduce the armor class of the entire unit for the duration of the burn. so you could throw it and then use a weapon that normally couldn't penetrate to take it out.
@h4xorzist
5 ай бұрын
In my opinion they should rework this grenade into an absolute dmg monster. I think you should be able to kill a bile titan if you throw all four on one. Alternatively, whey could make it into a debuff weapon that removes armor rating.
@Bombsuitsandkilts
5 ай бұрын
I really wish it set enemies on fire more consistently too, and if it stripped armor off charger legs would be nice
@VRF_7
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, i'll keep my impact grenade, thanks!
@traviskennedy4995
5 ай бұрын
It’s not their health that’s low. The thermite grenade blows up its back pack. Which is essentially its weak spot.
@MiguelAbd
5 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this one! Could be a game changer!
@victornguyen1175
5 ай бұрын
Thermite grenade is literally just a glorified firecracker the way it currently is
@Eight-Bytes
5 ай бұрын
I knew it, it's not that great. The trailer definitely didn't sell me on it, and now my doubts are confirmed. I think if I were to get the Warbond it would be purely for the grenade launcher handgun. But that's not enough of a justification, so this'll probably be a pass for me.
@iMost067
5 ай бұрын
You need to hold grenade for a second before throwing, this way it always sticks
@jabloko992
3 ай бұрын
This guy: Oh well, this grenade is niche and only works against a few specific enemies...don't even try it. Me, with a crazy idea: **DOOM OST: RIP AND TEAR INTENSIFIES** :nyehehehehe: 👿
@chocorosette1254
5 ай бұрын
Imagine if they'll just nerf the other grenades for balancing.
@caesar_s7343
5 ай бұрын
They STILL haven't fixed the burn damage only working on host so these grenades are basically useless if you aren't.
@lordxerlus3842
5 ай бұрын
I’d take the smoke grande before thermite. That says a lot about
@ion_force
5 ай бұрын
It should ignite right after you throw it not like 5 seconds later.
@ShingLingChickenWing
5 ай бұрын
Takibo railgun on automaton is op 1 shots devastators and hulks
@nihili4196
5 ай бұрын
Also, Thermite will bounce if you're too close
@WINTERGREEN53
5 ай бұрын
So it’s basically a sparkler
@PineappleZach666
5 ай бұрын
I hope this grenade is just bugged. I was really hoping for a slow killer but high damage over time.
@mikellpadgett3565
5 ай бұрын
It's a fuse people use it wisely
@HyBlock
5 ай бұрын
it looks cool, but i don't see any reason to pick it over others... very underwhelming
@montecarlowithdawningornam1817
5 ай бұрын
This bond overall was very underwhelming
@OneTrueRat
5 ай бұрын
@@montecarlowithdawningornam1817super sad, thought the crossbow would be good at least
@mattyice2099
5 ай бұрын
@@montecarlowithdawningornam1817 I'm in it for the armor lol
@Kazrel
5 ай бұрын
@@montecarlowithdawningornam1817 I'm loving the Eruptor but that's about it besides the armor.
@montecarlowithdawningornam1817
5 ай бұрын
@@Kazrel it looks strong, but I don't fw snipers in hord shooters. How's the nade pistol?
@BlkDonte
5 ай бұрын
Nothing has more of an impact than...the...impact grenade
@Zanbatoss
5 ай бұрын
Ha
@mips0n
5 ай бұрын
since the grenade pistol was added i fell in love with the stun grenades. you can easily stun a hulk, walk around and kill it from behind with nade pistol. also does crazy damage to tank weakspots and is great at dealing with bases and bug holes.
@Legendary_Honey
5 ай бұрын
This should either do significantly more damage than the impact grenade (since it has no AOE) or it should be capable of shredding through heavy armor. It would be incredible if it could expose a charger's leg in 1 nade, or take out a hulks leg for example.
@timsohn7057
5 ай бұрын
low damage but breaking off armor would be a great gimmick
@ZzVinniezZ
5 ай бұрын
Since it have semi explosion at the end....would it be cool if it stick to heavy armor unit...burn them off...explosion will spread out fire to nearby enemies
@charlieashwood
5 ай бұрын
Heavy armor shred is exactly what I expected the thermite to do. I'm really hoping it's just bugged and that is what they do with it.
@Zectifin
5 ай бұрын
yeah I was hoping it would one or both of these. its crap right now. needs a huge buff.
@Zlittlepenguin
5 ай бұрын
I’m gunna be real with you, being able to shred the armour off a charger’s leg is pointless when we can all one shot them with like 5 different weapons now.
@Justin-lx5ez
5 ай бұрын
To help the thermite grenade stick you must hold the button for like 2 seconds and you'll see spikes deploy from the grenade... then throw. Otherwise they will bounce off
@CStevenH
5 ай бұрын
0:55 "reliably unreliant." I'm glad we got that out of the way in under 1min haha
@hardboiledaleks9012
5 ай бұрын
90% of the stuff in the new war bond / update is dog shit. The new resupply upgrade for the ship doesnt work either
@fightclub6284
5 ай бұрын
Well the adjudicator sucks, the thermite grenade is bad, but the eruptor and grenade pistol work pretty well, haven’t tried the explosive crossbow yet though
@MorriganFinkel
5 ай бұрын
Def needs a buff. If I'm giving up the area damage of impacts/incindearies, the crowd control of stuns, and the concealment of smokes, it should at LEAST kill a charger in 1 headshot/strip its leg armor, and kill a hulk when stuck to its back
@crestfallensunbro6001
5 ай бұрын
ive heard people saying its bugged so maybe it will do much better when its fixed
@beh256
5 ай бұрын
@@crestfallensunbro6001it is effected by the fire damdge glitch where sometimes your fire damdge won't work and when that happens you literally can't even kill the smallest bot
@Letsanum
5 ай бұрын
@beh256 that is a bug but Takibo is always solo so that wouldn't apply here
@ion_force
5 ай бұрын
are you saying you've popped smoke more than once?
@itriyum
5 ай бұрын
Nobody even uses smoke grenades, they are not that good
@Criiies
5 ай бұрын
Most pointless grenade ever right? Cant imagine using this over impacts. They need better armour penetration
@constablemittens
5 ай бұрын
If it was a reliable sticky grenade that would moderately quickly strip away armor and wreck stuff like cannon towers it would be good
@dylanmccabe6011
5 ай бұрын
Yea it literally just doesn't do what thermite does. Its very weird.
@Daytruin
5 ай бұрын
@@dylanmccabe6011 thermite should be stripping the armor away , can't think of anything that really survives contact with thermite , except kaid, and bandit (he used to deal drugs)..
@dylanmccabe6011
5 ай бұрын
@@Daytruin exactly right
@soybean9098
5 ай бұрын
Yeah impacts can two shot tanks if you hit side, back and top of turrent. Termite should atleast one shot heat sink.
@Daytruin
5 ай бұрын
putting a thermite reaction on a HEAT SINK is literally the most lethal thing you can do to a machine lol, these nades are bugged or aka not working as intended, i refuse to believe this was their intended strength , it's just going to be another patch with a comment like "we have recalled newly requisitioned Thermite prototype grenades meant for testing and have properly shipped out replacements of the REAL DEAL! put them to use soldier!"
@NaregChakhbasian
5 ай бұрын
@Daytruin finally bring an end to those flamethrower hulks and their bs
@Reoh0z
5 ай бұрын
That's not a thermite grenade, that's a tickle grenade.
@anthonyju6392
5 ай бұрын
After testing it seems like the grenade is half baked. I don't believe this is the completed version of the grenade.
@stilllife8
5 ай бұрын
Since it's a DOT weapon I think this grenade damage is probably bugged, just like every other DOT weapon.
@Navinor
5 ай бұрын
Yes it is.
@linearparadox9409
5 ай бұрын
You, sir, just earned yourself a like and a follow. Great content. Also, here's hoping they buff them because i was really hyped for them and this is really underwhelming/disappointing. I think they should remove the (already tiny) blast from the end and massively increase the DoT. Make them dedicated heavy armor penetrators, and make them GOOD at it, at the cost of anything else. I think that would be a balanced tradeoff.
@constablemittens
5 ай бұрын
It's probably bugged but it just isn't strong enough for how slow it is, I think even if the armor melt effect works it might need half the fuse time or something. Also is the sticking really is that inconsistent there's no way it's reliable enough to use the armor melting to accomplish anything
@IAmNumber4000
5 ай бұрын
I really hope these aren't intended for medium armor targets only, because a single impact grenade can instakill most medium armor enemies
@RyanWuzHere13
5 ай бұрын
4:30 aren’t the chargers in the specific mission to hunt chargers, a different type? Do they have similar health pools because not only are they differently named but their armor is differnet. I’ve noticed I can just kill one with a magazine or two from the Uzi by shooting its leg, so I’m not entirely sure if using those is accurate? I could be wrong?
@Malakith
5 ай бұрын
They just look different, it's the same for the hulks that have a flag.
@davidpotts7116
5 ай бұрын
The inconsistency of these grenades makes me think they are heavily bugged. Here's hoping that's the case, because this was such a cool concept. I guess we'll just have to wait a week or two to know for sure
@mongrelshadow14
5 ай бұрын
Impact nade can 2-3 tap tanks and 1 tap towers if you hit their vents. Primary reason I've been running impact nades for so long. Being able to stick the side of a tank is going to be more consistent for me and given the huge amount of heavy devestators existing now I think this puts it squarely as my new Bot Nade option. Though I will admit a good reason this is doable is because we now have the grenade pistol which will just function as the replacement for the other half of the things I used impact nades for. Also, might consider it on Bugs purely for the BT interaction. I really don't like having to rely on a non ammo based strategem to deal with heavy units so this plus Quasar or RR/EAT will likely be a combo going forward since again, nade pistol can be used for closing holes. I would like to see them get buffed so they can strip armor though. As lowering the AV while nice is too niche imo.
@MarkFromTheYoutubeComments
5 ай бұрын
This to me looks like the thermite grenade is bugged. My expectation was that this was supposed to break off armor, and maybe do a little damage. Like you start with throwing this at a charger's face, wait for it to burn the armor away, and then blast their face. But if it's just a burning sticky thing, that's rather disappointing...
@tcarra45
5 ай бұрын
Yeah it was really bad i noticed it was a stinker when the grenade bounced off striders for some reason i just had no luck getting them to stick, im still holding out hope for a breaching charge of some kind, like a C4 you can place and then click to detonate, imagine rigging the whole map in stealth and then letting it blow at the end
@quentinmay1915
5 ай бұрын
in my experience termite have a only one good spot to be used and its with the rail gun, u can damage heavy ennemi with some shoot then launch termite and it blow charger and titan with 1 or 2 of them with this combo, exact same thing with tanks and bruiser
@ElewIV
5 ай бұрын
The more i hear about this warbond, i feel like the only change to most peoples kit will be using the grenade pistol and swapping to stun grenades.
@josh___something
5 ай бұрын
The eruptor seems to be a popular pick for folks who like chaff clear support weapons.
@ElewIV
5 ай бұрын
@@josh___something might be good with Bots, but bugs are probably going to overwhelm you.
@josh___something
5 ай бұрын
@@ElewIV That's what the support weapon is for.
@FurieMan
5 ай бұрын
I feel like any enemy that gets hit with it should also be burning throughout its hit. Perhaps it could be the same but be constantly stripping armor or something. Maybe these will make sense against the the Illuminate if they are shielded and these works around shields.
@majki113
5 ай бұрын
Sooo... In short? Useless grenade at this moment.
@justaguy1943
5 ай бұрын
The eruptor has a glitch that ragdolls you if something may be behind you and make u take explosive damage. Thermite needs to strip heavy armor completely off and create weak points to shoot.
@lxsaglr8704
5 ай бұрын
The buff for thermite would be to shred armor. As in one thermite would shred charger armor AFTER is blows up which is a fair buff since it takes awhile for it to explode
@quin4689
4 ай бұрын
just did some testing cuz I was curious and IF you can land throws on a charger leg (optimally one of the front ones) it Feels like each thermite reduces the armor cat of the leg by one-ish with one thermite and ensuring I hit the very small dmg decal on the leg left by it with an eruptor (without shrapnel at this time in case this changes) I was getting red hit markers (tho it could be finicky) with two thermite on the same leg at around the same time I was able to pen the leg with a stalwart (again it helped to aim for the dmg decal but sometimes it didn't matter and I could pen it anywhere) hope this helps and that it wasn't due to some really odd interaction during the time period I was testing also here's hoping we get a buff for this grenade in the future regardless
@wassentme1891
Ай бұрын
Might just be shots ricocheting into stomach or rear end.
@Leo40214
5 ай бұрын
3 shotting tanks and hulks consistently and 1 shotting turrets are definitely the highlight
@connman8d617
5 ай бұрын
But don't impact grenades also 3 shot tanks?
@sentryion3106
5 ай бұрын
I think its situational at best and niche normally. You are kinda just better off running a stun grenade and flank them or just throw an impact grenade at the correct spot with the plethora of other utilities impact has.
@lastnamefirstname850
5 ай бұрын
@@connman8d617 no they 2 shot it XD
@BackwardsPancake
5 ай бұрын
@@connman8d617 Impacts will 2-shot a tank if it hits the heat sink - And since it's radius is pretty large, hitting the side or top of the turret counts.
@HeyitsMartyn
5 ай бұрын
Worst grenade in the game
@ElewIV
5 ай бұрын
If they want to make this grenade useable they need to make 1 nade strip medium armor and 2 or 3 strip heavy armor. If it's not going to kill stuff it should at leadt be a consistent way to mitigate armor
@NaregChakhbasian
5 ай бұрын
Why would you waste 3 nakes to strip heavy armor when there are things like railcannon strike at EAT. This thing is useless no matter how you look at it. Only one should be required for taking out a hulk, no more than that!
@wassentme1891
Ай бұрын
Fix is to either make one grenade equivalent to an EAT shot in damage, just taking a few seconds, or it should be similar to how it is now just reduce effective armor by 1 step during the burn (probably should stack so you can eventually kill chargers with a primary).
@LordDarthHarry
5 ай бұрын
apart from a general buff it needs I think it should take out fabricators with a hit anywhere like the Spear. That is exactly the sort of thing Thermite is used for IRL. Similarly it should absolutely 1 shot the Mortars and AA emplacements.
@mips0n
5 ай бұрын
how many thermites does it take to pop a bile titans green guts? that would be nice to know since often times when i find myself with everything else on cooldown i end up running underneath them to at least disable their spewing attack by popping the sacks until i have something to deal with them
@lilweeboi
5 ай бұрын
i think they meant it to be strong but it is funky with the hitbox kinda same with the eruptor blowing you up
@Mazapine
5 ай бұрын
Played a few rounds with it on Helldive and I just couldn't find a situation where another tool wasn't a better option. Tanks or turrets? One shot from the Quasar into the heatsink, followed up by a single tap by the Scorcher or Eruptor. I really hope they get a buff, because they're probably the worst grenade right now..
@Hando10
5 ай бұрын
Crazy…… we can probably expect a buff soon. Per this video, I would say it doesn’t fully serve its purpose.
@MrNinjability
5 ай бұрын
It seems like the current iteration misses the power fantasy of a chunky single target destroyer. Arrowhead should have clear direction what to do to buff these to being a good enough option to bring in your load out. I think a decent start would be: 1 for anything less than charger and hulk 1-3 for charger/hulk depending on if you hit weak spots and if you don’t it should strip armor to make small arms fire do damage or crit 3-5 for bile titans/tanks and similar weakspot and armor stripping mechanics I’m less sure about heavy unit breakpoints but for anything beneath charger/hulk, this thing neeeds to be a one shot
@DarthTalon5
5 ай бұрын
You can always land an accurate throw with a Thermite grenade. You just have to hold it briefly in your hands first so the spikes emerge. In the video around you mentioning the inaccuracy you are just quick throwing it so the spikes are not out to allow a proper stick.
@justpeachykeen_13
5 ай бұрын
You can actually kill BT's with impact nades. Granted, the few times I've pulled it off the BT's armor was damaged
@Raso719
5 ай бұрын
Thermites should take out anything with a heatsink in one grenade. It should excel at taking out structures, equipment and heavy vehicles if you apply them to key locations.
@emanuelpovian1938
5 ай бұрын
The eruptur and arc thrower is a good combo for bugs
@legitnub
5 ай бұрын
does the thermite strip through armor at all? maybe you're supposed to throw one at an enemy and then shoot them with the primary?
@wassentme1891
Ай бұрын
I wish.
@darzinth
5 ай бұрын
if they just double its durability damage, then atleast it would blow a hole open in the armor so you can kill big guys with small arms fire
@Enegel87
5 ай бұрын
The first couple of time I threw it it immediately become obvious that they do not work as intendent. Hope they get fixed soon.
@mephistoxic3900
5 ай бұрын
I was really hoping the thermite grenade would be a hot cup of liber-tea, but it’s not.
@gabzsy4924
5 ай бұрын
At first I was really supportive of Arrowhead, their vision and their design phylosophy. I defended them when all that drama about balancing happened, but at this point I can't anymore. I'm pretty sure Arrowhead has some really incompetent people on the weapons/armor design and balancing team and I'm also pretty sure they are not testing many of the new weapons released. It's just baffling how bad, boring, uninteresting and copy pasted some of the things in the warbound feel. Also, it took them months to even fix the text on the weapons description to correctly represent weapons penetration and yet they are still resistant in giving us the actual penetration scale and numbers, leaving the community to guess and having to test for themselves. Why?! Why it feels like every armor set in the warbounds is just a copy pasted version of something else? Why most of the new things, like boosters, weapons and grenades are mediocre and bad? It seems there's only one good thing to unlock per warbound! That's not even counting all the underperforming weapons that will never see use from the regular warbound. Why not buff those?! Even basic things like scope alignment are totally messed up since the launch of the game and not only are not yet fixed, but they manage to release new weapons with the same issues or even worst ones! At this point I'm done defending them. Game is great for what it is but this is just lazyness and I'm gonna call them out for it.
@ovepowned1743
5 ай бұрын
It feels like a glorified flare with some double sided tape on it
@tttttttttttttttp12
5 ай бұрын
I think the thermite may be bugged. It's not working at all as it did in the trailer, so it may be much more useable in the future.
@PoliticalAnimal87
5 ай бұрын
it would be sweet to see a sticky telsa grenade, gives off one big arcing shock to groups
@df8340
5 ай бұрын
So I didn’t get the first battle pass, but after the fire buffs it kinda is looking good to me
@Malakith
5 ай бұрын
Yea, this thing is wildly unreliable. I've had multiple times where it wouldn't kill a hunter, warrior or hive guard in one grenade. Additionally, I've had times where it took over 4 to kill a brood mother, 8! to kill a charger and did nothing to bile titans (stopped trying after 6 headshots). And all of this is if it even sticks to the enemy. I'd use the smoke over this thing.
@ChangedCauseYT-HateFoxNames
5 ай бұрын
I'm going to stick to my incendiary/impact grenades. Impact for things like stryders, incendiary for cutting off/weaking enemies advance. Edit: I heard someone say on a different video that the thermite grenade lowers enemy armour quality, as in heavy gets degraded to high medium, did you by any chance find something to support this.
@colonelbbq
5 ай бұрын
to me it feels like even though thermite is fire, it somehow does not get the buffs that fire damage has gotten.
@Kyrox2
5 ай бұрын
Not sure what the armor pen is on the grenades, but chargers armor is bugged and decreases in a few spots when they are charging so that can also cause them to take less damage to kill
@Navinor
5 ай бұрын
They are bugged. They are affected by the dot bug. If you are not the host of a match they won't do damage at all. It is the same old bug which makes napalm, gas, the new fire buff ship upgrade and the incendiary shotgun unusable.
@artur3306
5 ай бұрын
Even if they work they are underwhelming as seen by the solo gameplay in the video
@samiches4500
5 ай бұрын
You forgot to test it on a *cough* fellow Helldiver...
@Testeverything521
4 ай бұрын
What I don't know is: how much is the DOT for the thermite? How much is that dot influenced by durability? When you stick multiple thermites on something and they seem to light on fire, does that increase the dot? The thermite explosion is 100 damage with armor pen 7. So, it can do 100 damage to anything that doesn't have explosive immunity. Bile titans don't have any armor 7 places, all locations share 100% damage to main and are 100% durable, they have 3500 health, AND you said it takes 7 grenades. If we assume multiple nades don't stack damages by lighting the target on fire... we could guess: Thermites do 400 damage DOT (maybe more if the target isn't 100% durable) and 100 damage explosions. Bile titan heads have 750 health and a EAT deals 650. So it's 100 damage from death (but only explosions of AP 5 can deal damage, so the only explosive that can do it is a thermite). Ironically, the thermite does exactly 100 damage. But since the titan doesn't die until the boom, it seems that the burn damage doesn't apply to the head specifically. (P.S. An overcharged railgun can also penetrate for AP 5 for >100 damage, so that'd be an interesting combo with an EAT if my calculations don't suck) Additionally: A brood commander's face has explosive immunity, this might mess up my calculations... but their head only has 200 health. If a thermite had a 400 damage dot it should be super dead in one hit. But it doesn't die in one shot, so I think the dot applies to the base health and only the explosion lands. 200 health = 2 thermites to the head via the explosion only. Brood commanders only have 800 health, so I think 2 nades should kill them even if you landed them on the non-lethal legs. Last pieces of data: Hive guards have 500 health. 400 dot + 100 explosion = one hit kill. Hive guards die in one shot. This is consistent with my speculation of how the thermite works. Bile spewer = 750 base health... and die in two grenades. I cannot, however, explain why the heavy devastators die faster than regular ones, or why the charger takes 3-6 thermites to kill it.
@johngray3449
5 ай бұрын
I'll stick to fighting the enemy with my cup of Liber-tea.
@Accurize2
5 ай бұрын
TLDW… thermite grenades are junk.
@Voeluspa45
5 ай бұрын
Wow, I watched about 15 videos about today's warbond drop, everybody seems to have a different opinion of all the unlockables. Most people agree the grenade is mid, only good as a get out of jail free card, like if your stratagems are on cooldown and you have to deal with a tank.
@ethonzianch129
5 ай бұрын
why cant these devs TAKE THE HINT and make stuff overpowered for the release or at the very least lean that way and then fix as needed. i think we all agree WE HATE DISSAPOINTING DROP DAYS just to wait for the weapon or tool to be made usable LATER. its insane, why do this?
@yoyoguy1st
5 ай бұрын
I tried them out and yeah it felt pretty terrible
@BaineStubbs
5 ай бұрын
Yea they can keep this one
@samiches4500
5 ай бұрын
Is the pattern that when new weapons come out, The player base uses them for a week or 2 and then they get adjusted?
@rzr0015
5 ай бұрын
I am a new recruit to the helldivers, I have almost maxed the starter warbond. Can any vets give me a suggestion about which of the premium warbonds to unlock first? The 1st 2, don't like the new one.
@SuperDdall
5 ай бұрын
If I could only have one I would choose Cutting Edge for the Sickle. Great primary, infinite ammo (don't overheat), biggest gripe is short spool time before it fires but it's not too bad. It also has the stun grenade, which is pretty good (even stunlocked bile titans before they nerfed it). Most good shit is actually from the OG battlepass.
@rzr0015
5 ай бұрын
@@SuperDdall my nerd ass saw laser rifle and went for cutting edge. I regret nothing, almost got 500 currency again. Later will try for the steel one.
@SuperDdall
5 ай бұрын
@@rzr0015 Yeah the sickle is great. Wish I say the same about the actual laser gun from the free BP but that thing is useless. In case you're interested: The Liberator Explosive is no longer called the Liberator Explosive so people stop assuming it might be a weapon worth taking into combat. The P-4 Senator is also pretty bad, too. Which sucks because one of my favorite characters in fiction is Revolver Ocelot and I love me gunslingers in general. But it has a cool spin animation so at least there's that? Anywho, keep up the good work Helldiver. :)
@neojb1989
5 ай бұрын
Being able to set and forget 3 on a tank and kill it is actually really impressive to me. Same with the hulks. Maybe more a grenade for the Automatons than the Terminids then?
@LorgeDelta
5 ай бұрын
Impact nade 2/3 hits tanks if you aim properly.
@neojb1989
5 ай бұрын
@@LorgeDelta I can't aim for shit but I can certainly the broad side of a tank!
@Leo40214
5 ай бұрын
@@LorgeDeltathey must be on the heat sink, same with hulk. Not very practical if there are adds around.
@Gspi1005
5 ай бұрын
Until you get 3 tanks and 2 hulks on you at once, and need to use 15 grenades to kill them
@markschultz4236
5 ай бұрын
@@Gspi1005if you have that many heavies on you, it doesn't matter what grenades you're packing. I think this might be useful against bots if you're running autocannon - the only thing you can't deal with is a tank staring straight at you, so just chuck a few thermites at it
@annemccormick2561
5 ай бұрын
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@marhonic
5 ай бұрын
So basically it’s only use to killing hulks and tanks, Or 2 divers equipped with them can bring down a Titan with near perfect throw accuracy I discovered that eagle 110m rocket pods will 1 shot tanks. They will also 1 shot titans, but that is rare, normally 2. 3 thermites with 8 seconds of waiting, or 1 Eagle strike… The only real use is when the team is overrun by hulks, Respawn, toss 3, dead hulk. Repeat.
@IRMentat
5 ай бұрын
with the explosion at the end it felt like more of a self-deletion weapon than a threat to the enemies, long fuse, low-damage and utterly unreliable. better off with pretty much any other grenade, (except maybe the smoke). hell in terms of hulks they can kill me with the flamer in the time BETWEEN throws so having to wait a 3 second fuse plus the 4-5 second "activation" is is functionally a last-ditch option for a close-in-kill AFTER i'm already dead, presuming it doesn't just bounce off the armour and end up on a rock or wall.
@Roobotics
5 ай бұрын
Thermite is just plain bad.. 2 grenades (and a wait) to kill a single spewer? Like wtf, it's shooting at you that whole time.. not neutralized at all, that's horrible! I have taken out 3 spewers with a single impact grenade on a few different occasions now, they like to bunch up and clip rather close to one another, I think it has to do with them following the shortest path and their whole body not being a hitbox to other spewers. I try not to even waste my impacts if it only means I get 1 spewer, I can't imagine doubling that, AND still possibly dying to it. (or my own grenade if it comes in for a melee after the fuse delay, lol..)
@claydice91
5 ай бұрын
Give it time. Y’all really want 1 hitter quitters, perfect with no bugs, as soon as they come out. Just give it a little time. Testing an item on 1 system is a hell of a lot different than sending it to hundreds of thousands of systems at once. It’s buggy. It happens. I sure hope none of y’all complaining play COD because if you do you should already be used to games not working. 😂
@biblequotesdaily6618
5 ай бұрын
after a couple of games using it, thermites are so frustrating, it does absolutely NOTHING that it needs to. i was thinking it would fill the same role the krak grenade does in darktide, but it can't manage to efficiently do anything against any enemy you need it to. it SHOULD strip armor. it SHOULD cut through arms and legs. it doesn't do this at all unless you waste all of your grenades in one go on a single enemy, and on any difficulty past 5 you WILL come across several heavy class enemies. it needs to be a disabling tool against heavily armored targets and enable you and your team to deal damage on exposed bits opened by thermite. overall completely worthless compared to every single other grenade in the game and that is just dissapointing in every way imaginable
@Rasamith
5 ай бұрын
Quite disappointing currently, but likely going to get a quality of life increase. Also, where's the stats vs shriekers? ;) This grenade should 1 shot everything in the standard category prior to its full duration. 1 shot heavies when targeting a weak spot 2 shot heavies/elites anywhere on their body. Anything less than that is making this grenade purely terrible. It's a single target DOT, so you don't even delete the problem immediately when you land it, you gotta wait for the payoff while running around in grenade throwing range avoiding death. Grenades fill a special role in doing instant big aoe mob clear damage when you need it most, and to trade that for single target damage over time... it better be significant.
@diswazzi1683
5 ай бұрын
I'm tired of everything in these bonds being underwhelming, ugly af, or just plain garbage We got 3 armor sets with the same passives we already have, where the fuck is the fire resist armor Then they had the nerve to add a ship module to fix HE barrages that we have to pay for? Fucking why? Tired of the fucking nerfs too
@JonielRodriguez-s7i
5 ай бұрын
Try this loadout: Fire breath shotgun, incendiary grenades, smg pistol Heavy medic armor Eagle airstrike, cluster bomb, quasar cannon, laser rover backpack... I got more than 1k kills solo
@majinkevinci
5 ай бұрын
I feel like to have any use, the grenade should 1 shot any big enemy with a well perfectly placed grenade with the sole exception of tanks and titans. Titan kills: 3 for the face, 5 for the back, and 6 on the legs? Tanks: 2 on turret and on the engine, 1 in heatsink, 4 anywhere else. Hulks: 1 shot on the face and 1 the heatsink 3 anywhere else. Everything else should be 1 shot if you stick it anywhere the AoE is small so might as well it should pretty much be the strongest grenade to compensate.
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