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Receives light hit to the leg, throws weapon aside and runs away squealing, "I'm gonna quit sword fighting!" Now that is the kind of epic boss battle the Dark Souls series is sorely lacking.
@counterstructure4908
5 жыл бұрын
Borderland would do it.
@Tourak
5 жыл бұрын
There's plenty of it, they're the player that never lrn2play. :P
@larry-naylor
5 жыл бұрын
It wasn't the fact that he was hit that made him walk away it was the fact that the fella wouldn't respect his boundaries. I'm not afraid of getting hit, I welcome the opportunity to see what I need to work on, but there are days I just don't want to work that hard and that needs to be respected. If someone walks in to my space with an arrogant attitude and disrespects me then I'm not going to spar with him either. This guy's seems to know it all so why is he attending HEMA classes? I hope he's banned from every group in the Netherlands, that might straighten out his bad attitude.
@apollyon1987
4 жыл бұрын
Lara Nelemans also know as I’m a pussy
@oliviu-dorianconstantinesc288
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes! BAN! That's what you do when someone points out flaws in your technique and suggests improvement. How disrespectful, BAN HIM!
@aninjatwitch
3 жыл бұрын
this dude over hear trying to home run his sparring partners head, then gets pissed no one wants to spar him
@matthewcooper4248
3 жыл бұрын
Right? It's like "Every school I've ever been to says I hit too hard and I do nothing to fix it. Is it me? Noooo. The pussies are the problem!"
@Fluffy_666
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought..the german hema podcast Schwertgeflüster has a whole episode dedicated to overly intense hits in training, sparring and tournaments, and they basically said the same: If everyone tells you that you hit too hard, YOU HIT TOO F... HARD.
@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t mind sparring with him. All out full impact and thrust. Full steel plate protection though. Mitten gauntlets and cuirass and gorget, and groin armor.
@aninjatwitch
3 жыл бұрын
@@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique Have fun with your concussion then
@Champion_14
6 ай бұрын
You watch the video?
@seppetoni7874
3 жыл бұрын
dude, i was exactly the same like you in martial arts. Thinking that the kind of people you described don't belong there. Years later and way too late and having fallen out with a lot people (even my teacher) I had to learn the hard way that I was the problem. I had too much of an ego and at some point had no one to train with cause I pissed off my training partners. Stay humble and make the sessions enjoyable for weaker or less skilled people you don't have to prove anything to them or anybody else. I suggest to work on your ego trust me it will benefit you in the long run.
@naomi2000
2 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't this comment have more thumbs up? He talks about actually hitting hard even in contexts that are lighter than a normal sparring. People don't hit in a light spar like they would hit in a tournament, and not all people who train martial arts are interested in real fights. I think it's ok to know if you are the kind of person that is fine with fighting and getting hit, but in a training environment you have to learn to respect your training partner's limits, whether you agree with them or not.
@Vox_Popul1
2 жыл бұрын
Think this is a result of a mismatch. He (and you) might’ve had partners that weren’t as competitive in the sport and thus were more interested in a more light-hearted version of it. At that point though it’s the teacher’s responsibility to recognize these types of students and sort them accordingly.
@dredlord47
2 жыл бұрын
@@naomi2000 Because he's wrong. The entire point of HEMA is to learn how people actually fought historically. They learnt with next to no, or literally no, protective gear with sticks or sharps*. The use of synthetics, blunts, and actual armor, is already a rather massive concession for safety. Additionally, If you pussy foot around then you'll never learn how to fight in the first place. *For most of history. Blunt steel training weapons became more common in the 1500s. There is no archeological or textual evidence to suggest that the Romans or Greeks used blunts, and given the price of steel at the time, I doubt that most people would have them in the Early Medieval period either.
@vostokcosomonaut5205
2 жыл бұрын
@@dredlord47 They used wooden weapons like the rest of history no?
@swissarmyknight4306
2 жыл бұрын
Seriously. SnapJelly needs to learn that striking with control during sparring is a mark of skill. Brutality during sparring is a mark of character defects or lack of skill, or both.
@DragonessYT
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, let the hate flow through you.
@raiden2467
5 жыл бұрын
Is this a Star Wars refference?
@DragonessYT
5 жыл бұрын
@@raiden2467 Maybe
@sionefinaulahi4640
5 жыл бұрын
Yeeess... join the dark side...
@classico1132
4 жыл бұрын
@Alejandro Aguilar *DEW IT
@scpfoundation4717
3 жыл бұрын
*everything is proceeding as I have forseen hahahahahahaha*
@PathosAres
4 жыл бұрын
No one: HEMA guys: I've fought mud crabs more fearsome then you.
@allopez8563
3 жыл бұрын
Than? I am sorry English is not my first language so I confused at first by your comment I originally thought. Fighting mud craps and then your opponent.
@jonmiller1430
3 жыл бұрын
@@allopez8563 yeah he clearly meant "than"; inputting "Then" is probably due to it sounding like that when we say it in an American accent.
@day7141
3 жыл бұрын
No you haven’t
@JohnSmith-qr9lr
5 жыл бұрын
13:59 What if the opponent flips the table over? Don’t underestimate the danger of chess mate. I’ve seen some shit.
@AstralS7orm
5 жыл бұрын
Then you practice chess boxing or boxing chess. It is an actual sport.
@mikeoxlong1395
5 жыл бұрын
At nights, i can still sometimes smell the iron stench of blood in the streets...
@Паехавший
5 жыл бұрын
Guys from eastern europe lying under the tables laughing
@maciejhammer2681
5 жыл бұрын
As some Poles say, there's no need for thigh protection, there are so many muscles there that a hit wouldn't break the bone.
@topiasnatynki9130
5 жыл бұрын
@@maciejhammer2681 what chads
@damjan4435
4 жыл бұрын
You guys are getting protection? Here we just use blunt swords and call it safe enough
@TheHarkonnenScum
4 жыл бұрын
Fetal alcohol syndrome induced pain resistance is an unfair advantage.
@gwynbleidd1917
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHarkonnenScum well it's obvious thatl you're one of those cowards he's ranting about. Lol.
@TheShadowOfHumanity
5 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid we hit each other with sticks every recess and no one used to cry or complain.
@oz_jones
5 жыл бұрын
TheShadowOfHumanity we threw rocks and pinecones at each other
@baldrickthedungspreader3107
5 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid in school we had lessons on hockey what me and my mates did instead was hit each other with the hockey sticks lol
@kyomademon453
5 жыл бұрын
@@brownbricks6017 myself not a boomer and yet i spend my childhood playing with sticks with my friends hitting each other, sounds like youre a pussy
@The_Crimson_Fucker
5 жыл бұрын
Sticks and chestnuts, sometimes the chestnuts would still have the spiky shell. We'd throw the chest nuts at each-other and then we'd close with sticks, rulers, rolled up text books or whatever was on hand. It was great fun! Plenty of bruises were had, one kid almost lost an eye and one kid got stabbed with a nut. Eventually we established a rule that you weren't allowed to use the spiky ones so we'd peel them before throwing them.
@duskanddawn8543
5 жыл бұрын
I used to do that, and get hurt quite a lot until I was 12, and didn't even care about the pain. Now, after 6 years of sedentary behaviour, I start crying if I accidentaly cut myself with a kitchen knife while cooking. It's sad :( I miss being a strong kid.
@fitzyakamcsyke
5 жыл бұрын
Dude come on u know u need foot protection remember your video on cold steel Chinese war sword when they cut the boot in half? How could u forget your own video man
@SnapJelly
5 жыл бұрын
hahahahahaha XD
@r.speirs
3 жыл бұрын
I respect your opinion on overusing protective gear that isn’t always necessary. But you’re sparring. You’re not trying to kill each other. Have some respect for your fellow practitioners and abide by their rules in their house.
@Dudeinator
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah sparring etiquette is important. Though from his stories it sounds like he followed it. Communication is key if you want lighter sparing ask for lighter sparring. If you want to go harder ask to.
@laughingmask3118
2 жыл бұрын
Here's one of those milk-drinking crybabies I mentioned.
@laughingmask3118
2 жыл бұрын
All jokes aside, this kid was sabotaging his own growth due to fear of properly sparring in a cooperative sparring match. He was a child and his own blind arrogance sabotaged himself and frustrated Snapjelly. I'd say Snap was the one being disrespected. You can't pretend you're ready for sparring and then be so unwilling to cooperate with your sparring partner. That's honestly the most pathetic form of posturing. If you're not ready to spar, don't try until you have the confidence to do so.
@laughingmask3118
2 жыл бұрын
Somebody who goes into full contact sparring and is too afraid to take a hit is somebody who likes to pretend they can do full contact sparring; which involves getting hit.
@jgappy5643
2 жыл бұрын
Even during sparring you must be willing to take a hit. At least understand that its part of the training. I practice Krav Maga besides HEMA and when we do sparring you take a hit on the legs, head, etc. Its part of training. Everybody who practiced another martial art knows the risk. So if someone does HEMA and he/she thinks you should not be hit or you don't want to be hit during sparring, then I think its better to study the HEMA theory and stay away from sparring. Mind you: you don't have to go home all beaten up or with fractured bones. But bruises and some pain experience can be the best teachers.
@casperme6552
4 жыл бұрын
Speaking as someone who broke his big toe (at bjj), I can tell you that I'm not going anywhere near sword fighting if there's a chance that you're going to break my foot. Two weeks off work= £2000, I think I'll take as much protection as I can get.....
@VidimusWolf
2 жыл бұрын
The real issue is you live in a country where losing work due to injury costs you a paycheck... Assuming you are employed and not free lancing ofc
@casperme6552
2 жыл бұрын
@@VidimusWolf I'm not employed, I'm a self employed electrician, but I agree with your point👍
@laughingmask3118
2 жыл бұрын
And that's fair and you acknowledge that. You're not gonna go into full-contact sparring because you know your limits. I respect that. I wish more people would just draw the line at where they want to be and stay behind it. So many people have too much ego to recognize their limits.
@mk3ferret
2 жыл бұрын
You took time off for a toe?, you have 10 of them cut that fucker off if it that big a problem
@landry3341
10 ай бұрын
Dude i broke my left big toe doing bjj comp too lol it was like 2-3 months before i could start again. Wont compete again. I appreciate a hard roll but it aint worth getting hurt, its not my career and im not built for it
@harryr2283
5 жыл бұрын
If you go to someone elses salle you follow their standards. That's all there is to it.
@cromabu5090
4 жыл бұрын
I just hate getting hit on the hands, but if I wear gloves I’m fine. I don’t care as much about other parts of my bodies. (Bar my Crown Jewels, they’re important as well)
@MrDarcscythe
5 жыл бұрын
Bruises happen. It's part of the sport and I agree with you on that one. But if multiple people from different clubs tell you that you hit too hard maybe you should consider lighter hits. I give you two reasons for why you should try it: 1. Are your techniques still working although you're using less force? Great, so you get less tired. 2. As a martial artists you should be able to hit in various forces and speeds. Maybe you are sparring with a total beginner, in which case you wouldn't use full force, right? Side note: I feel like your describing the problem of training with people of other groups or clubs. Maybe they are just used to a different pace.
@corybryan2105
4 жыл бұрын
Nope. Had elbow pads sliding off when I played lacrosse in high school. Seen people ejected for no neck guards in recreational league hockey. Seen penalties awarded for no shin guards in youth league soccer. These are all common hurdles in full contact sports. What happens if a sword breaks? What happens if a beginner makes a bad swing? What if you or them fall? The padding or armor isn’t there to justify striking the joints, it’s there for when your opponent accidentally strikes them. If you go to a dojo to learn an Oriental martial art, you’re expected to follow that Dojo’s rules and customs. Why should that change just because it’s European martial arts? Your comment was spot on.
@artistmacd
3 жыл бұрын
Martial artist and occasional fill-in instructor here: our clubs always had a reputation for going "hard". Funny thing is, we always taught "if you're going over 70% power, you're going too hard. Sparring isn't about hurting your partner, it's about learning". Even though we didn't wear a lot of gear, we didn't get a lot of injuries. You never train at 100%, because your body absolutely will not hold up to that, and you WILL develop joint issues and injuries. Save your 100% for a life or death situation, or a professional fight. If this applies to unarmed sparring, then I can only imagine how much more important it is in armed sparring, where each opponent is swinging a force multiplier.
@Peagaporto
2 жыл бұрын
See how traditional muay thai fighters spar, it looks downright gentle. If you tag a guy too hard in any serious combat sports gym they will call you amateur.
@katokianimation
2 жыл бұрын
@@Peagaporto thai fighters fights every week. If they get hurt in training that will ruin their fight on that week. Also if you go light you can spar all they long. Their is the heavy bag to practice power. On sparring you should focus on timing and position. Also brain damage and endorphin has negative effect on learning. And if you are a real fighter you don't have to get punched hard everyday to understand that a training partner tagging your chin lightly means you are f*cking up badly.
@Peagaporto
2 жыл бұрын
@@katokianimation That's my point
@morroschreiber
5 жыл бұрын
Three things about this video: 1) A few weird experiences with HEMAists who didn’t want to be hit with swords doesn’t mean the entire worldwide HEMA community is a bunch of meeping babies; 2) If you’ve been thrown out of three martial arts for making people cry or quit or whatever, it’s possible that maybe you DO want to adjust your sparring to a more pro-social style; and finally, 3) I’m really not sure WHY, but you are oddly endearing.
@ErwinPommel
5 жыл бұрын
Your argument here would probably have been stronger if you'd left out some of the stories. If people in various disciplines, karate, kickboxing, and multiple venues for HEMA are telling you that you hit too hard, it's just possible that you are. I'm not saying you necessarily are, but it's worth considering.
@werwinn
5 жыл бұрын
Bullshit 😂
@werwinn
5 жыл бұрын
By the way, im a real Erwin 😂
@simo_hayha4917
3 жыл бұрын
Umm. I do MMA and Jiu jitsu, MMA "pointless part". he's probably not cruiser weight probably bigger, or he has strong arms.
@BeetleBuns
3 жыл бұрын
ummmm... no, hit like you mean it, it's a fight.
@ErwinPommel
3 жыл бұрын
@@BeetleBuns No, it's a sport.
@InSanic13
5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but I have to complain about the title being misleading. At the one club, they were just slightly overzealous about protection, while the other had the one guy that couldn't handle sparring. I don't think that's enough to say that HEMA is "full" of terrified people like that. The title also makes it sound as if this is a HEMA-specific problem (which, as you mention in the video, it isn't). Still, the video was entertaining, and the topic is worth discussing.
@JustGrowingUp84
5 жыл бұрын
It's called click-baiting, and, as far as I know, everybody on KZitem does it.
@scottrichter341
5 жыл бұрын
I agree, usually it's the reenactors that seem to be more "pussies" (though I wouldn't actually use that because it's not really the best word). The purpose of that isn't to actually harm the person, it's to reenact, thats why they can get away with no gear. So they sometimes get hit hard on accident and they do great in gear because they already know what it feels like to get hit without it. In HEMA it's the opposite, you're (supposed) to be trying to injure your opponent while not getting hit yourself. That is the purpose of HEMA isn't it? To hit and not get hit? I get that there are pussies that can't handle their temper if they get hit too hard, but those people are going to be in any discipline. HEMA itself isn't any more pussy than any of the others. Except those crazy German fucks, yeah, you all know the video I'm talking about.
@Trollvolk
5 жыл бұрын
To be honest, a lot of people come to learn historical fencing with very different motivations. A lot of people don't have a martial arts background or a misleading mimdset. They come from fantasy, larping or just medival( insert other ages ) enthusiasts. Mostly these people lack of the experience of what it's like to hit or get hit. Some come with very high opinions if them and their abilities and are rageous if hit. Some don't understand that you have to learn fighting. They want to feel like their heroes from their game or movies or stories. It's an ego problem and a process of disillusionment. Those people are not uncommon. The " hema " scene is full of wannabe knights and refugees from the real world who try to escape their life to confirm their inner hero. Still this is not the biggest part of the community, but with hema becoming more and more popular the more of those people will come. They won't read the manuals or do their own research, they want to consume predigested knowledge. I said it a little bit too hard because, all in all in don't consider it as a bad thing. Just a bit sad, but not a crime
@NeoGee
4 жыл бұрын
He talked about 2 clubs
@Wordragen
4 жыл бұрын
At my hema school (zwaardkring) we (I) just the rule when we spar. If one person does not has legs protection then both fighters do not hit on the legs
@Wordragen
4 жыл бұрын
Never sparred with someone that only had face protection tho... I guess I would decline that fight if asked.
@aardappel4193
3 жыл бұрын
Ga beter naar de Hema om tompouce te chappen
@spicketspaghet7773
2 жыл бұрын
@@Wordragen Bit late, but yeah, if I had to fight against someone with the bare minimum of gloves and mask, I'm not using steel or synthetic if it's to be full-speed. Though, my instructor actually vets the newbies for fights (you don't usually fight steel or synthetic full speed for the first few lessons of course, mostly 2/3rds speed if with synths). Nobody goes out in such a asymmetric gear style. We have loaner jackets for these situations. Even with NOTHING, we have enough for a mask, jacket, gorget, and gloves to allow the basic upper body hits. I'd refuse to fight synth like that too. For the most part, the unmentioned rule is that if you've got an area covered with protection, it's fair game. No protection? Clarify. Knees are never hit if exposed, as for elbows as well. Jackets mandatory for synth and steel full-speed.
@kuprukuula
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it kinda sounds like your approach could use some work. How hard you can spar depends on the sparring partner and the trust you have. In the beginning and with beginners it's better to shelter the partner and not hit hard OR punish for mistakes. As the skills improve and the partner becomes more willing to take the responsibility of mistakes and taking hard hits, you can start raising the intensity. Just because "THIS IS HEMA/KYOKUSHIN/MACHOBOXING" or "we have all this protective gear" doesn't mean you can treat each partner with *your* standards. Take the guy avoiding head strikes for example. After sparring you could've just talked with him how next time you could try it with some more gear. Ideally you would work together to improve each other on your weaknesses. If the partner just isn't up for learning, just shrug and spar with someone else.
@KirkWilliams300
5 жыл бұрын
I think HEMA schools teach to avoid getting hit as back in the Middle Ages, even small injuries could mess you up, also on my personally experience people don’t like dealing with double hits
@szepi79
5 жыл бұрын
Now that I watched the video, I have a not too positive opinion about you (but I generally like you) 1st club: their club, their rules. foot protection is over the top, i agree, but still, it's their responsibility what happens at the training. if you walked into our club and said 'oh, i dont have this , but it's ok, we're always doing sparring without it', we wouldn't let you spar. we don't know you, we don't know what you can and cannot do, etc. the rest of the video: yes, we do get bruises. yes, sometimes we hit eachother harder than we should. but the way you speak about it (oh, i wasnt hitting that hard, learn to protect yourself, i could have hit harder etc.) is very unapologetic, it removes all responsibility from your side. i heard these arguments a lot over the time. and based on how many examples you just mentioned, it seems this happens with you a lot. it's sparring dude, not a fight for your life. you are not supposed to cause injuries, and if you do, at least say you are sorry and do everything not do it again. also, listen to the feedback from your opponents. if they say you hit too hard, then you hit too hard. it's not your place to decide.
@tomhas3282
5 жыл бұрын
szepi79 source?
@szepi79
5 жыл бұрын
source for what?
@chongli8409
5 жыл бұрын
meh
@Bruh-pl4zk
4 жыл бұрын
szepi79 I’m a about a year late, but, although I do agree on most fronts, I think it is important for more people to understand that they are going to be hit fairly hard and to expect it. Yes, if someone says you hit too hard, you should respect that the blow hurt, but in my experience pulling blows limits effectiveness, and expecting a martial artist to accept that they have to be a worse martial artist is annoying, and sometimes seems unjustified (even if it is justified).
@star-b-qpodcast54
4 жыл бұрын
szepi79 100% correct. I’ve been teaching MA for over 20 years. Hitting too hard proves nothing except that you’re a disrespectful asshole. What is “too” hard? Well, if (seemingly) every school or dojo you visit tells you to ease up, you’re “too” hard. I can hit hard as fuck; but I don’t UNLESS the person I’m sparring is being a disrespectful asshole, and I need to prove to them that they can receive justice just as hard or harder than they can mete it out. If you’re sparring “normal hard” you can and will get bruises or bumps, but you can still train for the rest of the night.
@MikaelKKarlsson
5 жыл бұрын
The first guy sounds like someone who wouldn't hesitate to cheap shot people at LARP events.
@gwynbleidd1917
3 жыл бұрын
Lol larp events? 😆
@IHateMilkbruh
3 жыл бұрын
@@gwynbleidd1917 bruh you're watching some fucker talk about swordfighting. Expect larp, expect bruises
@gwynbleidd1917
3 жыл бұрын
@@IHateMilkbruh fuck larp. This dude was talking about hema and sca sparring. Larp is for fucking pussies. Foam swords don't hurt. Feders do though.
@gwynbleidd1917
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure most HEMA practitioners don't fall under the same category as larp. One's an actual martial art, the other is playing imaginary lol
@IHateMilkbruh
3 жыл бұрын
@@gwynbleidd1917 k. If you want to bitch and scream about it, go ahead but right now you're just being a big baby lmao
@65firered
5 жыл бұрын
If you get more muscular you'll become HEMA Jesus!
@vendettagrazie5653
4 жыл бұрын
65firered and longer
@samuraijackoff5354
4 жыл бұрын
You know the picture of buff Jesus breaking the cross as he flexed? Exactly.
@Ezyasnos
Жыл бұрын
Eventually you'll become HEMAN! The most powerful man in the universe!
@tomthefox8909
5 жыл бұрын
Good point. I only have a reenactment background so I don't have the full perspective. But people have got to expect a bit of bruising when they start these things. I mean its kind of an occupational hazard.
@larry-naylor
5 жыл бұрын
We do, like you say it's an occupational hazard but we also demand respect in our sparring partners something that this fellow obviously lacks. It's perfectly fine to ask someone to respect your boundaries and the fact this guy aimed another blow at his legs, wether pulled or not, just shows he has no respect for his sparring partners. If he had done that to me I'd probably have broken his nose for his trouble so he was lucky the guy walked away. You can't deliberately antagonise someone and not expect a response. I hope he's banned from all HEMA groups in the Netherlands, he obviously lacks courtesy and manners.
@PowerRangerCosta
5 жыл бұрын
@@larry-naylor do you know anything about this story that it's not on the video? Because from what he describes he just went for the exposed part because, well, it was exposed and unprotected... like you would do in a battle. As far as it's said in the video, there were no previous convo defining boundaries that were not respected like you claim.
@larry-naylor
5 жыл бұрын
@@PowerRangerCosta The fact that this guy did it once and the other guy made it clear he was unhappy with the behaviour so he did it again shows complete lack of respect for other people's boundaries. I train with a reenactor who has respect for us as a group and each of us as individuals and he would never dream of behaving this way because he has respect for the art and other people's boundaries. This guy has a shitty attitude and I stand by my original comment
@PowerRangerCosta
5 жыл бұрын
@@larry-naylor thank you
@larry-naylor
5 жыл бұрын
@@PowerRangerCosta No worries.
@londiniumarmoury7037
5 жыл бұрын
Find a group that better suits you, or start your own club in a hall somewhere. It's not like that at Scholagladiatoria where I now train. In fact they use fiore close in fighting and is more in fighting than my personal style, which relies heavily on false edge cuts and evasion. But I did notice one point you made I don't agree with, you mention they are pussies, but you had bare feet, and you were saying at the beginning of the video that you want rough play. So for example I wear steel toe cap boots when, and guys wear heavy leather boots. So we are all fighting in an insured venue with certified liability coverage etc in most cases, and you grapple with a guy and he stomps on your bare feet. You say you wont get hit with a sword in the foot, that's debatable but my problem is, you when grappling in the bind might get your toes crushed by heavy boots. Some big guys train at my club, one guy is 20+ stone built like a tank, if you grapple with him and he crushes your bare feet with his heavy boots on. You will be out of action for 3 broken toes, and the club that has liability cover looks bad now for letting you train with improper safety gear.
@ChueyiCha
3 жыл бұрын
hmmm being told by multiple instructors in various martial arts that you hit too hard. Maybe the problem is you and not the people?
@corybryan2105
4 жыл бұрын
No joke, you’re literally complaining about the same challenges that most folks playing full contact sports in most reputable leagues have to deal with. Coming from a former soldier in one of the most war happy countries on the planet (USA), you acquire more skill when you’re practicing at your peak than when you’re recovering from an injury. Also, this is a hobby for the vast majority of us. Very few of us are paid for HEMA, and no one I can think of in the sport is a paid knight. Some injuries, particularly joint injuries, can turn something you enjoy into something you can no longer do. Furthermore, if you’re a guest at a different school, and they are pressuring you to gear up, either listen to them, invite them to spar at your school, or spar with them at an alternate location. This is basic courtesy in Oriental martial arts, idk why that suddenly changes when it’s European.
@jacko6560
4 жыл бұрын
Also you don't want to get hit because that back then even if you didn't die the wound would get infected most likely.
@matthewcooper4248
4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't change, this guy's just an asshole. He thinks that his standards should be the only standards and if he's a guest somewhere it doesn't matter.
@corneredtoad1481
4 жыл бұрын
hey just wondering what part of this was him being an asshole? didn't really understand as i personally agree with most of the things he said, But then again i might also just be an asshole.
@corybryan2105
4 жыл бұрын
william sjolin specifically, going to a different school but doing as he pleased rather than how they requested, and then pitching a fit about it on KZitem. Kind of like when someone comes over to your house and pees in your shower. There’s nothing inherently wrong with it, and no one cares if you do it in your shower, but if you’re a guest and have been asked not to pee in the shower and you do it anyway, you’d be an asshole.
@monicsofia
3 жыл бұрын
It seems more like your ranting is about those with whom you have experience and then you transpose it to HEMA practitioners in general. While bruises are inevitable not learning control, or how much force to use when hitting your opponent so they know you hit them vs. I will bruise you every time, is unsportsmanlike. Also, the swords we use in tournaments today multiply the force applied as opposed to a historical fight because sharps cut/slice; they don’t leave bruises. I don’t believe the mindset of learning to push through the pain is 100% historically accurate, but it’s a mentality that’s more present because of our sportification of sword-fighting.
@hubris1912
5 жыл бұрын
This might be your most entertaining video to date, my man.
@ThatOneBlacksmithGuy
5 жыл бұрын
it really is
@Shiresgammai
Жыл бұрын
This might be an unpopular opinion, but most HEMA fencers IMHO are hipsters who fetishize swords. Most don't genuinely care about fencing. If they would care about fencing, then they would study all forms of fencing, not just "awesomn longswordz". I mean the simple fact that they let German stage fencing (a descendant art of Liechtenauer's system) simply rot away without doing anything to preserve it or to learn from it speaks volumes. There might be genuine fencers in HEMA, but it's obvious to me that they are a tiny minority. Most are swords fans who have watched too much "Game of Thrones".
@ThallanarRabidtooth
5 жыл бұрын
I've found a lot of parallels to this and skateboarding... Or really any kind of sport, I guess... But with my experience with skateboarding, you're gonna fall... a LOT... Sometimes you're not even doing anything dangerous, you're just cruising around, when suddenly you hit a rock you didn't see, and you go flying, fuck up your hands or even mess up your wrist or your knees, you might even bleed a little... I've experienced many of these falls actually, but I always dust myself off and get back on the board after rinsing my hands off, of course... Don't wanna get an infection. I KNOW falls are gonna happen. I KNOW I'm going to get hurt, but that's part of the experience. If you can't handle being hurt, then play video games all day.
@possumlodge5368
5 жыл бұрын
Having a bit of a background in skateboarding when I was a teenager, this is a good comparison. You need to understand the risk, but also be willing to take them. It's like learning to drop into a quarter pipe, where you see people leaning back resulting in them falling with their feet flinging out in front of them. Mind you, I have absolutely no experience in sword fighting or anything of the sort. But like with skateboarding, you can wear all the protective gear you want, but you're still going to slam and it will hurt.
@thelonerider5644
5 жыл бұрын
Same with mt biking, I haven't fallen in a while but it does happen, same with road cyclist plus add cars. I've seen guys crash and usually they either get back up and keeo going or they don't -- if they don't it is because of serious injury. But both myself and fellow riders I know have gotten out of hospital and gotten back on the bike. I rode for a few weeks with one arm in a sling because I couldn't bear to not do it. And... After getting body checked by a chevy impala a blunt sword isn't quite so scary. But yeh I still get nervous when someone swings a sword at me cause I'm a fencing noob, but I'm not gonna be discourteous to the other fencer or stop doing it.
@christopherwolf-willoughby457
3 жыл бұрын
This is cringe humblebragging. Some people just don't like the same level of contact as you. I get that its annoying. I've had that same experience of people trying to call me out for medium level SAFE contact. Some people have to be slowly trained into the mentality that getting hit wont break them. The best thing you can do is respect their wishes and/or suggest that they fight someone of similar intensity level. This is why we do three things before every fight in my club or fighting anyone else. Wear the same level of protection as your partner. Agree on an intensity level so that both fighters know what to expect (somewhere between 50-100%). Come to an agreement on what targets are valid with respect to the level of intensity and protection level. The instructor should be enforcing these agreements and calling out violations. This will save you a lot of drama. Also, respect the wishes of the instructor. They are running the show. If they say you need to chill, than you either chill or leave. Also, getting a concussion can kill you. Injuries are not something to brush off ever and HEMA does not need to become a cult of injury. I've served 5 years in the Infantry with 2 combat tours, and I can tell you that shrugging off injuries does not make you tough. It makes you stupid. We can't get better if we are broken. That said, people should not be getting upset with their partner if they get injured so long as they are following the guidelines of communication I've mentioned. I've broken my hand twice, and it was never anybody's fault. It was always a result of how I agreed to fight. We can't expect other people to be willing to take those risks because like it or not, HEMA is more sport than practical art. No one with any sense practices HEMA thinking that they are going to get to use it outside of a HEMA environment, so let people have fun on their own terms.
@ioioioioio6026
2 жыл бұрын
if you get tapped in the leg then run away crying thats on you
@theodal124
5 жыл бұрын
I knew that, when I used to practice Judo : some people are afraid to fall... Dude... Why are u practicing judo if you dan't want to fall???
@laal6290
3 жыл бұрын
To learn how to fall
@Stahlvanten
3 жыл бұрын
People seems to forgot that HEMA is closer to MMA and Dog Brother Gatherings than it is to re-enactment.
@roelhendriks744
2 жыл бұрын
Dude.. you never really got hit I think. This video is just you boasting about how “tough” you are. Bad video
@biobomb93
2 жыл бұрын
HEMA ha s "martial art" in the name, i agree with you: in my school someone who gets a bruise or hurt usually says "why didn't i parry it?"
@Bb24138
2 жыл бұрын
One time I got in a grapple when I was a few months into hema and my sparring partner swiped my leg out and dropped me straight on my back. As soon as I fell I got up invigorated, ecstatic, that's when I found out this is the sport I was born to practice.
@chopstick1671
3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile my club when practicing schnappen: hehe, head go *thunk*
@GroovyDude00
4 жыл бұрын
avoiding getting hit during a fight? it's almost like they're hitting each other with fucking swords and shields lmfao
@ThePanguinator
5 жыл бұрын
Then, there are people glorifying their injuries like they're some kind of holy relic of how tough they... I still don't get how people can brag about their lack of proper defense
@ilkkarautio2449
3 жыл бұрын
I brag about my injuries because they are caused by armed men who have actually tried to kill me, but failed. I think that counts for something.
@ThePanguinator
3 жыл бұрын
@@ilkkarautio2449 if the people from your local recreational HEMA club try to kill you you should look for a new one, probably
@ilkkarautio2449
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePanguinator I dont practice HEMA, im talking about actual combat and illegal gangland-type warfare.
@ThePanguinator
3 жыл бұрын
@@ilkkarautio2449 great, then this comment wasn't targeted at you
@ilkkarautio2449
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePanguinator Oh, i thought that you meant that most people from veterans to cartel assassins that show their wounds easily to people and tell the story (atleast what they are allowed to say...) behind them are part of this damaged psyche that glorifies injury. Im here because im looking for a substitute for warfare that is little bit less deadly and more accomodating to my current injuries, but this clearly isnt for me.
@Midaspl
5 жыл бұрын
Not wearing protection on top of your legs isn't that great. I was doing that too untill I got hit in the hip joint. It hurts. Better get fencing trousers or skirt from SPES at least. EDIT: Also about the gear. Since you cannot spar with steel unless you get everything, why would you buy steel feder before you get all your gear? It also differs in the schools as here everyone was getting almost full protective gear before getting steel feders, because the school supplies you with the synthetics (they're just hanging there free to use).
@gracesprocket7340
5 жыл бұрын
SPES trews are boring. Far better to get the High Hill Pants. Awesome Renaissance type swooshy styling.
@christopherwolf-willoughby457
3 жыл бұрын
We do low level sparing (%50-%70 intensity with pulled strikes) with gloves, mask, and gorget. Were a pretty safe club and I think this standard is pretty normal. Protect the important bits.
@justinsadler5695
3 жыл бұрын
People aren't scared of getting hit. They're scared of getting sued.
@MisyeDiVre
4 жыл бұрын
The discipline is a martial art whilst the competition is a sport.
@dylanlandry4996
4 жыл бұрын
Lmao i was just talking with my bro about this very thing and only searched up hema and this was the first video to come up
@ptitnhane
5 жыл бұрын
What did this guy did not understand in the MA of HEMA ?! You have to be ready to take a hit at some point ! I practice Viking reenactment. We train with fencing masks and gloves, and allow hits anywhere on the body (Hits are supposed to be controlled though). Sometimes it hurts. Move along... Btw, if you ever come to Paris and want to have a little practice... You are very welcome.
@ptitnhane
5 жыл бұрын
@Caramel Johnson Wow. Where to start... First, we are not idealizing them, we are reenacting them. Second, Franks are no more my ancestors than Normands, Britons, Burgun, Saxon are. Third, Charlemagne did not build his empire through love and kisses. Finally, he would mostly think something like "Who the f*** are those Vikings you are talking about ?".
@mationplays1500
5 жыл бұрын
Well I don't see a lot of women around in hema class so I don't get what you are talking about
@richardforsman
4 жыл бұрын
You should see the people in MMA. When you choose to go in Martial Arts, you choose to get hit.
@KalJerico465
4 жыл бұрын
dude- if several people of several schools and different Martial arts tell you, you hit to hard, maybe its you who is the problem. Just some food for thoughts.
@JohnHellscream
3 жыл бұрын
That tap on the leg episode revealed a toxic gamer mentality/behavior, not a swordfighter in training. Its like the game "rules" were head only so he adapted to doing exclusively that. Not considering it for one moment as a light real sparring, where all the body is a target theoretically and you should behave as such, but with a gentlemans agreement preventing the participants to commit or really attack other parts, more like threaten. That doesnt mean threats to the whole body should be ignored. He considered it a head game, you cheated the rules (pointing out what the actual mentality of the sparring should be), he couldnt win, you fucking cheater, aaaaah rage quit, aaah , bro im straight im not having a good time, fuck you guys im going home, those bastards lied to me etc...
@iirovaltonen4258
5 жыл бұрын
Funny that in my club we only train with helmets. I am on a beginner's course and about half of the people there have had a small cut on a finger and no-one has complained.
@evan4856
4 жыл бұрын
I have no experience in hema or anything related to holding a sword but I’ve played sports all my life and have experienced the same thing when practicing or training with people who are the way you put it “ not made for it” and it’s frustrating. For a hobby like yours I’m sure it attracts a lot of people who are in the nicest way possible “not made for it”.
@devincombs4509
5 жыл бұрын
insert reee.wav
@bajamus69
4 жыл бұрын
Well if it's like this, I better get into this shit, I've been wrestling for a couple years (highschool) so ima fuck people up
@CarlPettyIII
2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't even finish the video. Heaven forbid people ask you to wear protective gear.
@TheCrimsonIdol987
5 жыл бұрын
In the words of the sword masters of old: "Now I should add that a man may fight at the barrier well armored, with a knowledge of the art of combat, and may have all of the advantages possible to have, but if he lacks courage, he may as well go and hang himself." - Fiore dei Liberi. "If you are easily intimidated No fencing should you learn" - Johannes Liechtenauer. "The whole art would be lost, because the roar of the impact and the rough strokes would make a cowardly heart fearful" - Hans Talhoffer. In other words, don't be a pussy! You're a warrior! Be bold and proud!
@gorbalsboy
2 жыл бұрын
This is rich coming from a little boy who practices pretend sword fighting,dry your eyes sonny
@theodorebear6714
5 жыл бұрын
*I was shot in the face with a shotgun but I just threw away the broken parts of my skull and wrapped some duct tape around around my bleeding brain and kept going.* Edit- I'd be honored to fight you. I like that you put an emphasis on committing to the penalties of combat. That's really what the duel is all about.
@Officialbigluxx
3 жыл бұрын
All I’m hearing is a lot of Whining about this in about that yet no one else is complaining you’re the only one complaining about it so something must be wrong with you
@ShadowGirl-
5 жыл бұрын
Would you ever do any level of sparing with sharps? Or do the draw the line there?
@SnapJelly
5 жыл бұрын
I'd so some at 50% speed, in full gear with somebody I know and fully trust
@ShadowGirl-
5 жыл бұрын
SnapJelly :) just the answer I was hoping for.
@torysaccount5753
5 жыл бұрын
But why? What's the point of doing it with a sharp weapon? The thrill? But then, why wearing any safety equipment in the first place? That's stupid imo
@theDevintage
5 жыл бұрын
@@torysaccount5753 Sharp swords slide less in binds. Also AFAIK feders are longer than sharps, so just sparring with sharps is more realistic. But yeah I personally wouldn't do it.
@irishninja9857
5 жыл бұрын
@@torysaccount5753 Its similar to training with a firearm under duress. Sparring with dull weapons is great for the art form and learning the proper techniques but some people like the Martial aspect of it. Once they reach a certain level its necessary to progress themselves to that next level of skill and understanding. You have that looming danger if you make a mistake, so you are much more focused and it will greatly improve your skills with dull weapons. You will be more confident and also more concise with your techniques. Often times in martial arts the best fighters resort to the most basic of techniques.
@karl2913
3 жыл бұрын
If three different schools said you might need to chill it might be a you problem
@casperme6552
4 жыл бұрын
If you want to hit hard and be hit hard, go to an MMA gym. Loads of people want to Larp in a traditional style, who are you to tell people that they have to get punched in the face or hit hard with a sword?
@SnapJelly
4 жыл бұрын
in a good mma gym you won't get punched hard, brain damage and all that. you'll ruin a mans carreer before it even starts
@casperme6552
4 жыл бұрын
@@SnapJelly So MMA gyms are easier and less physically demanding than a traditional 'dojo'?
@SnapJelly
4 жыл бұрын
there's nothing traditional about HEMA, HEMA as we know it has only existed for about 30 years or so. also hema is a sport that involves A LOT of full contact sparring with metal or sometimes wood or synthetic materials. it's great to be all inclusive and all but if you don't want to get hit then this is not the sport for you
@casperme6552
4 жыл бұрын
@@SnapJelly Fair enough. I presumed that Hema attracted the sort of people that would train in a soft Karate style, or Japanese JJ (such as myself). I don't mind getting a few bruises myself, if they are needed but there are lots of people who just want to turn up and learn a few cool moves without too much pain. Actual injuries are never fun though, some of them will stay with you for life and lead to arthritis etc.... 👍
@cianmacconnal2451
4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the hema view that leg hits are useless and can't work, it's one of my go-to moves because everyone wants to hit high.
@alexanonimo6876
2 жыл бұрын
I know you commented a year ago, but, yeah, I do military saber, and I'm fond of putting my opponent into an inside guard/guard of quarte and going for the leg if they do not slip it back. Quarte is a strong guard, but it is difficult to quickly move out of it, and that thigh is just begging to be cut.
@Relaxe
4 жыл бұрын
What you described, from the newbies with the head back stance, because they're afraid of getting hit in the face, to the ones that receive a light tap and act like children, happens in boxing too. Everyone wants to be a badass but not everyone wants to go through what it takes to be one.
@katokianimation
2 жыл бұрын
No, getting hit at your head makes you stupider. If you want to be good at boxing and have a long lasting carrier the goal should be minimizing the amount of hard blow you get LOL
@TheMountainBeyondTheWoods
2 жыл бұрын
@@katokianimation oof🤦♂️
@josephlucas4024
Жыл бұрын
@@katokianimation Which is exactly what the original comment is saying. The only way to get hit in the head less is to be willing to learn from your mistakes. You're not going to be a badass boxer who can avoid punches to the face if you never learn how.
@katokianimation
Жыл бұрын
@@josephlucas4024 you aint gonno learn much. Even small concussions will lead memory lost. Also you can develop anxiety and ptsd witch dosen't help in the ring. Let me tell you an alternative solution. You get training partners who have great controll and able to tag you without actually hitting you. You do few hard sparring before your first fight, so you won't be shocked for the first time in the ring, and if you fight regurally, you don't spar hard ever again. If you know what is like to getting punched in the face with full force you don't have to experience that daily. Many pro do that, many pro regreted that they were fighting in the gym that much. Carrier could be cut short bc the more damaged your brain the easier to getting knocked out. And CTE is mostly developed not from the big shots in the ring but from the small shots in the gym... Thankfully this oldschool mentality is dying out and more coach go with the intelligent aproach.
@kevinstockwell2894
2 жыл бұрын
I've found I often have the opposite problem. The people I spar with are friends, and a part of my brain says "don't hurt friend". After two years of doing HEMA, I'm finding myself able to fight more aggressively with my friends in my club. But I've never had a problem with a few bumps and bruises. I even got a sprained thumb during my birthday gauntlet and continued to fight and complete all 40 minutes of it. I agree with you, though. Don't get into a full contact sport if you aren't ready for the contact
@jasonnicholas8648
5 жыл бұрын
They're not pussies you're just OP like one punch man... snapjelly = Saitama 😂😂😂
@SnapJelly
5 жыл бұрын
confirmed
@sardinho
3 жыл бұрын
The wriggling guy probably inflicts much more pain on other beginners with his brute flailing technique, but he's not used to getting any back. How many people got smacked by him and stopped doing HEMA, or just sucked it up, I wonder? I haven't started sparring yet, but it's a good lesson learning not to be that guy.
@scottmacgregor3444
5 жыл бұрын
My HEMA club actually measures the level of protective equipment to the weapon being used because they want hits to be obvious and cause some discomfort (hurt a bit) without causing injury. If hits aren't able to cause any pain, then you won't learn to respect the weapon. You'll fight as though it's a game and not a martial art. I've had plenty of bruises and welts with single stick and even dussac (none with long sword oddly), but even with my bad knee, nothing that I'd really consider and injury. I will say that I have almost a full heavy sparring kit, but no steel feder or other steel yet, but that has more to do with finances than anything. Feders, good ones, are expensive.
@jamesj4827
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think EVERYONE should spar hard sometimes, with enough protective gear to be safe, but little enough to make sure you DO care about being hit After all, then you'll take less risks, and it's more applicable to a real duel, gives us the feeling closer to what it may have been like The same as the highest skill levels doing set plays with sharps to feel how sharp swords actually interact Obvs they are going to be super carful not to harm each other, but if you have skill enough to KNOW you won't touch the opponent, at a safe speed with safe gear, it makes sense to try it in a highly controlled way Noobs can try sharp simulator nylons as I plan too XD BUT That needs to be agreed between both parties, most of hema is fun, hard hits will happen by bad luck but I think it's good to try and not harm your sparing partner I'm still in the vary early stages of learning and I feel aweful when I hit to hard, because it's not fair on someone who ahs not agreed to it even if it's an accident. And I've only spared with padded stuff so far (I know fucking noob, money is tight and gear is expensive XD looking to get a full kit by 2023 and enough training under the belt to use a nylon safe like)
@criticviking
Жыл бұрын
I had blood vessels being shattered so my entire leg turned blue from one saber hit behind my protection, it didnt stop me and i dont know any one who stopped with hema because they're scared only from being severly wounded for not having enough protection or even having protection. I don't know what club you where at or which one but the hema community is pretty though in most regards. The reason why we where protection is not to get killed you can still get severly wounded. I had also two concussions when using certified gear which made me buy a even better mask
@xXTheLegacy94Xx
3 жыл бұрын
dang this guy sounds like your typical playground bully who doesnt get why he doesnt have any friends.
@thecoolestofthe834s2
Жыл бұрын
lmao yep
@wylfo
4 жыл бұрын
"Nobody likes getting punched in the face or hit in the legs with a sword" 14:21 *Laughs in masochist*
@ironjohn
3 жыл бұрын
How to be a good warrior? Simple! Learn to enjoy the pain.
@trevormilliner8121
9 ай бұрын
This guy has an ego problem.
@fGlassmanN
5 жыл бұрын
wait, there's a distinction between sports and martial arts? I always though martial arts where a category of sports...
@hannahfox5422
4 жыл бұрын
Only in the view of elitist martial arts practitioners who think that hitting someone with a stick or brawling in a pair of suped up pyjamas is any less ridiculous than running around in circles or punting a ball into a net.
@egzabiheryemsgen4982
3 жыл бұрын
@@hannahfox5422 well martial arts by definition are different. Some martial arts are sport oriented, but not all. The key is the word martial, which means war.
@MrClaysta
3 жыл бұрын
Sports have adopted martial arts. Martial arts is applied, skilled, and artistic warmaking. Fighting has existed longer than sports
@thecoolestofthe834s2
Жыл бұрын
@@egzabiheryemsgen4982 damn is airsoft a martial art using that definition? were literally using replicas and real gear also (if your cool) poking each other with plastic bayonets
@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique
Жыл бұрын
Basically Skallagrim is a wimp ☝️
@zachary7897
3 жыл бұрын
I mean you can’t blame a guy with no protection and little to no experience for being afraid to get hit. He obviously wasn’t one of the guys in full gear with nylon. dude didn’t even have a full helmet just the face protector.
@Hoofler
2 жыл бұрын
I am reading a lot of comments on both sides but let me make one thing clear. If you are entering into a field of combat...no matter what your skill level or personal understanding of said field is...you are telling everyone around you that you are okay with non lethal hits...that's what friendly fighting is. If you don't understand this simplistic fundamental you are simply ignorant of the nature of the field you are encroaching upon. In addition you shouldn't be here and should go back to playing Skyrim. Were not trying to kill each other...Were just having fun and sometimes in a skirmish someone gets hurt...it's kinda the nature of the beast...It is what it is...
@crassiewassie8354
2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with that and i'm a massive pussy Lichtenauer says if you're a pussy please dont fight I've thrown this piece of information out because the stakes are different i'm not dueling someone to the death i'm having fun with wooden swords and i'm okay with getting fucked up because it's the nature of it all. I want to be picked up and thrown but nobody does because they know i'll prolly piss my pants on them but I definitely wouldn't mind it at all and I think everyone should adopt that mindset or just watch from a safe distance :)
@jimmyw7530
3 жыл бұрын
Ah, we get it. You’re the manliest man in the room. Our hero... While it is true that some people in HEMA are timid and need some toughening up. Perhaps a little patience would help. However most grownups have jobs and a family to go home too. You know, not injured. It is a hobby/sport after all. My guess is that if this kind of thing keeps coming up in your life, you’re most likely overly aggressive and constantly looking to prove yourself.
@jimmyw7530
3 жыл бұрын
Watching the last third of the video... It has been the same with Karate and Kickboxing. Yep you’re an overly aggressive jerk. Grow up dude!
@szepi79
5 жыл бұрын
The title is misleading. In our group we only have about 15% women, the rest are man. How would that qualify as 'full of'? This is Chewbakka. This makes no sense.
@thecritic69420
3 жыл бұрын
4:06 so idk about HEMA tbh but like in where I do Sword/Axe/Spear fighting you should better wear good shoes! Because some people tend to wear like normal leather shoes and most opponents be like: "HA! Spear go stabby stubby into footie!" cause well it just makes sense, doesn't it? xD That's why we all wear steel cap shoes.
@Recrofne
5 жыл бұрын
I feel you, man, getting bruises and getting your ass kicked is part of the fun and experience, people need to be less sensitive. Getting beat and learning you do something wrong is a good thing, it lets you know what you need to improve on, and gives you something to strive for. If I consistently have openings I *want* to know, so I can work on that. I've gotten hurt plenty of times in the past, to varying degrees, and it's almost always ended up as a motivating factor to improve.
@kronoscamron7412
3 жыл бұрын
exactly.
@Ken_Jones
4 ай бұрын
I had a match once at 15 years old in the 16-18 years old bracket. My opponent broke my nose. My shirt, my groin guard, my underpants, the bottom of my shoes, it was all red with blood. The bell rang, I went to my corner, nose hurting hard. My coach took a sponge out of a bucket water and cleaned my bloody face, he didn't do it gently, it truly hurt. My coach told me to suck it up and not be afraid and use my power to KO my opponent. I ended up losing the fight and I afterwards I felt that I could have won if I listened to my coach. Because I wasn't afraid because of the pain that I already felt, I was afraid that he would hurt me more... Moral of the story: don't be a pussy, just fight!
@KidMangaX
3 жыл бұрын
Real talk? I am 100% for the resurrection of honor dueling. If two people want to have it out with blades in a gentlemanly way, they should be able to do so without the government getting involved. I think that the mere existence of dueling also causes people to be more accountable for what they say, so there’s also a societal benefit for it to exist. Yet, not only are public honor duels illegal- You can’t find a single dueling society or sharp sword fencing club outside of Hamburg, Germany. I find it so shocking that people so in love with weapons are so afraid of pain... Humans butchered each other fit thousands of years, and you can’t even handle one cut?! Have some dignity...
@thecoolestofthe834s2
Жыл бұрын
no cause id be "sure" *shoots guy "stupid fuck"
@cvbpo
5 жыл бұрын
wow .....never would of think u would have that kind of problem just....wow
@nathanc939
5 жыл бұрын
Were I'm from kids hit each other with broom sticks, get hurt, cry for 5 minutes, then do it again. The number of bruises me and my friends inflicted to each other is ridiculous, there is even one time were one got chocked out and got sick for a few hours beacause of that, yet we didn't complain once, except for nutshot. Also I still went to hema classes and did my first real sparings while I had a strained knee, I just made sure I didn't put to much pressure on that knee.
@FullMetalAmerican
9 ай бұрын
All those hits you take add up when you start to age. Those broken bones, sprains, tears all add up and will cause inflammation issues when you get into your 30s. Protective equipment can be the difference between having to give up a martial art once you hit middle age vs making it a life long pursuit.
@martialman12
8 ай бұрын
I see where you're coming from but you shouldn't downplay the severity of serious injuries like concussions. Even one brain injury can have long lasting effects, it's literally brain damage after all. And there is risk overtime in contact sports to also develop CTE , which is currently very untested in HEMA for now. But we'll known in other full contact sports. Another big one is hand injuries, people break or strain their fingers, and break their knuckles way too often in HEMA and that can turn into long term arthritis where you won't even be able to properly use a sword anymore. So a certain degree of equipment safety ans preventive measures is really important. If it's just worrying about bruises or the like then yeah I agree. But breaking and tearing joints and ligaments sucks , and worse than that are brain injuries. We aren't getting paid to do this stuff as a hobby so it's best to prevent those kind of injuries as much as possible.
@funnysecksnumber6998
3 жыл бұрын
bruh, some people in hema... using just a little more protection than necessary is absolutely enough. you only need: -a mask with neck protection -a gorget -a jacket -trousers -gloves (that arent red dragons for fucks sake, at least for longsword) -joint protection DONT FuckINg tUrN yOUrSeld inTo a Tank WHY WOULD ANYONE BUY THE SPES HEAVY GLOVES, FOR EXAMPLE? its part of the game, damn it, if you dont learn by being punished for your mistakes, how the fuck are you going to understand what swordfighting is. *it gives you respect for the weapon.* i mean, i practice sabre with my friend, using untipped arrows, wearing parkas, whipping the shit out of each other. its part of it, you learn not to get hit.
@matousnerad5166
5 жыл бұрын
Wait, wait! Wearing protective gear using plastic swords? Like seriously in our trainings we often dont use any protection even when using steel (well we use the mask but thats all), yes of course we have the protection when we spar freely but thats with steel... come to middle/esatern Europe...
@thelonerider5644
5 жыл бұрын
That's normal here for practice and drilling, to, or least it was the last time I got down to a fencing club. IMHO lawyers ruin everything...
@theladyivy
Жыл бұрын
I notice a lot of people disparaging this and claiming that he should (in fewer words) soften up for other players. But you're missing the point. I came up in a sparring group that used wasters/bokkens, no protective gear, and full force fighting. That was real sparring. Whether or not you are wearing protective gear isn't the issue; the issue is a fighting sport which calculates wins based on touches. If HEMA were a true sparring sport, you wouldn't stop after each touch, you'd keep going until someone taps out. Touch sports encourage light swings and second-hand defense. After all, if being hit just means my opponent gets a point, it becomes less important, I can take risks because if I fail, I just lose out on a point. Instead of a real match where if I get hit, it's going to hurt. On the flip side, there are defensive players, but the opposite problem is true. They aren't taking risks because, after all, they only need to get in a few touches. Comparatively, in a real match, if you have to be able to get in and land solid hits or your opponent will never have cause to tap out. If that style seems too brutal, I invite you to watch MMA. They go hard all the time. In a weapon sport, if you're fully padded then using wooden weapons will bruise but not cause any serious injuries; conversely, if you're using padded weapons and no protective gear, the same is true, though there is even less chance of a serious injury. For my money, padded weapons are the best option for the sport. They still hurt, but you can go all out without risking serious injury. The hurt factor encourages caution and skill, while the low risk factor encourage no holding back. Don't get me wrong, HEMA is nice and all, but for me personally it's too soft.
@yorkshire_tea_innit8097
3 жыл бұрын
This can't be real.
@factbeaglesarebest
2 жыл бұрын
Bro. YOU are the problem. You basically showed that when you mentioned getting kicked out of various places. You lack humility and human decency. HEMA is a large community. I don’t practice it but you blatantly lack the ability to understand your own issue here, yet you come off with such condescending and just pure arrogant perspective…
@valdimer11
2 жыл бұрын
So one thought and this relates to the concussion story. If you are swinging hard enough to give people concussions, you may want to lighten up. Concussions hurt but can also cause permanent cognitive damage. My point is, don't underestimate the amount of damage something can do no matter how trivial. Another example is; I had my thumb caught while sparring and hyperextended it. To this day, 10 years later, it still hurts. Being safe, taking and giving lighter blows is not a bad thing. But one shouldn't expect NOT to get hurt when in a full contact sport either. You probably shouldn't be baseball swinging people's heads off but also, some people need to toughen up as well. There's some give and take here, with all things.
@swissarmyknight4306
2 жыл бұрын
When you get kicked out of multiple gyms for hitting too hard during sparring and still think everyone else is the problem...you're the problem dude. You need to moderate your level of contact during sparring. In EVERY martial art. Full contact sparring is for professionals who get paid to fight and experience serious long-term health consequences because of it. When amateurs are getting concussions during sparring, that is a problem, it is not something to walk off, it is something that can cause CTE. When you get kicked out because you won't moderate your level of contact, YOU are the problem.
@Neruomir
Жыл бұрын
HEMA should be combined with an unarmed martial art that does full contact sparing for best effect IMHO. If you can't handle pain, well what tha hell are you doing in a martial art? Do you think hockey players bitch and moan or threaten to quit? No they spit out their broken teeth and walk off a broken rib and keep on going. Go do reenactment, LARP or soccer where that kind of weak behavior is tolerated. And yea some HEMA places think you are supposed to wear full plate armor or bomb squad EOD gear but as an Uncentralized sport some local culture shock and eccentricities is to be expected and it will likely be a while longer before what is required gear and its specs is set in stone like Olympic fencing. Way to many clubs keep the hopeless runts that can not be bothered to learn or toughen up around and humor their constant bitching just to add a few more tuition bucks to the club account and it's always a pain to get stuck with them as a partner. That being said, you need to think about and adapt to your partner even if its frustrating getting stuck with a rookie but even if you don't learn anything by it and you are bored out of your mind he might learn a thing or two. I might sound like an elitist prick but i never give up on a rookie that shows he is putting in the effort or trying to learn no mater how bad he is. But i don't put up with posers and hopeless cases without the mental fortitude to be a fighter, wasting energy on training them is just an exercise in futility anyway.
@christianbagge609
Жыл бұрын
With all respect, you seem like a fun guy and I would probably enjoy training with you, but if you have constantly been told that you are going too hard in multiple combat sports, I think you should consider that you are actually going too hard sometimes. I’m saying that from a perspective of 20 years of kickboxing and MMA. Sure there are a lot of wimps out there and hard sparring has it’s place…sometimes. But for the most past I want my students to spar quick and technical but light. I think people tend to learn the best when they can try techniques and combos without being scared of being knocked out. And it’s pretty annoying with sparring partners who can’t feel the right level. Sometimes the natural reaction is to give them a couple of hard shots to make them understand they are going to hard. Not the correct way but it normally works.
@sorkeror
2 жыл бұрын
The club I practice with only do full contact sparring with steel, we see pain as a lesson, we do it year round outside regardless of weather, this traning has fostered some of the best fencers in the world, just check out Hema ratings for Stockholms Stigmän also in the sword and buckler ratings top 130 the two guys under "Stockholm HEMA" are actually Stigmän but for some competitions they don't allow us to represent Stockholms Stigmän because it is not an official organization.
@ArseneGray
2 жыл бұрын
Fact : If you are not going to go pro, no need to go "hard", because there is no reason to learn hema, karate, wing chun, kung fu or any other shit for any other purpose than doing it as an athlete or as a hobby. There is no in-between. If self-defense is your purpose of learing a martial ar just go do BJJ or join a MMA center and learn some mix of Kickboxing and Ground fighting. That will give you enough "real practice" to be able to defend yourself. Practicing HEMA too hard to be able to hurt your practicing partner but not really being a PRO or actually not doing this as part of your Job ( like youtube channel or smthn) is a massive and dangerous waste of energy and time. Most people are nerds and just want to learn some technical martial arts they do not want to "live" it, then they return to their appartments and play baldurs gate for 12 hours. And you return to your appartment and watch netflix or some shit. That does not mean you should be a pussy tho. Bruises are not even woth mentioning. If you get a cut, we can talk.
@noblesalutefencing8073
5 жыл бұрын
YES!. Our most recent video posted today has gotten a lot of criticism on facebook, and subsequently some downvotes on the video, because my sparring partner and I don't gear up from head to toe. We were trained with absolutely no protection and worked our way to where we are now as far as gear goes, over about two years. My mate in the video and I have fought each other for just over two years and trust in each other, and know how to pull our punches when necessary. But these winey babies get all up in arms because we are "setting a bad example." If we get hurt, it's a hazzard of the sport and we walk it off. Anywho, I appreciate your position on the matter
@thecoolestofthe834s2
Жыл бұрын
your gonna accidentally slit your friends throat and lets see if its "just a hazard" then
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