At first, I didn't want to start a feud with Herb Powell by doing this video. But then I realized he is a fictional cartoon character that can't do anything about it. This is another reason why Herb Powell sucks.
@Otis_.
Жыл бұрын
@TheRealJims I get he's a two dimensional character, but you don't need to call him out like that.
@Tadicuslegion78
Жыл бұрын
if you ever do more of this Why blank sucks series, Agnes Skinner or LouAnn van Houten better be on that list
@jackpearce367
Жыл бұрын
I’m regards to your point about the company. In the immortal words of Hopper first role of leadership everything is your fault
@Bravebird9
Жыл бұрын
Danny Devito has entered the chat
@plunkdaddy4505
Жыл бұрын
If you’re targeting shallow characters for the “X sucks” series, I recommend putting the “get him fellas” guy from last exit to springfield on your hit list. He’s such a little weasel and the “Lets get him fellas” guy definitely sucks. He’s been treated too kindly by Simpsons fans for far too long.
@rebeccaaustin6667
Жыл бұрын
"There isn't enough material for a Simpsons Histories on Herb" - man who made a Simpsons histories on Just Stamp The Ticket Man
@TheRealJims
Жыл бұрын
dang
@ericking7608
Жыл бұрын
You don’t understand man, it’s just stamp the ticket man He’s the most important character in the simpsons, the show wouldn’t be the same without him
@dontspikemydrink9382
Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealJimsWhat do you mean both of his episodes recently?
@TheRealJims
Жыл бұрын
@@dontspikemydrink9382From the Hidden Duds video and the recent Extra Seconds
@dontspikemydrink9382
Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealJims ha,must be the hidden duds video, i did watch the extra seconds. Can you please re do the subtitles as they don't match up with what you say. I think you put your script but then make changes. The sentence about nephews and nieces is different from what you said.
@SMToonAsia
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if Herb made that voicemail to make sure nobody asks him for cash and he's got money.
@ilgattoyuumi
Жыл бұрын
Omg larva
@SomeUnnoticedAnimatorAndEditor
11 ай бұрын
AINT NO WAY LARVA IS HERE
@Dyabolico456
3 ай бұрын
"Thanks for calling, I'm broke and living on the streets again"
@tully6648
Жыл бұрын
What'll always get me about Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? is that Herb hated the idea of naming a car Persephone, but was completely fine with calling a car Homer. It tweaks my sense of humor every time.
@RubyBlueUwU
Жыл бұрын
And six years later he’d be voicing in Hercules 🤔
@Kanbei11
Жыл бұрын
I'd not be surprised if the writers did that on purpose. Classic Simpsons were really good at subtle jokes
@awesomebeast7509
Жыл бұрын
What a brilliant joke. I didn’t get it until you spelled it out. Did the Simpson ever do an Odyssey parody?
@freakytostadacartoon
Жыл бұрын
@@awesomebeast7509they did
@brettjohnson536
Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I never noticed that! If that was intentional then that's really clever of the writers
@cheesier5153
Жыл бұрын
“Danny Devito is awesome, but Herb Powell sucks” Truer words have never been spoken
@mechajay3358
Жыл бұрын
You can say that for most of the characters that Devito has played.
@davidmoncholi6746
Жыл бұрын
@@mechajay3358especially frank everyone in always sunny sucks good show😂though 😊
@jaygooese4242
Жыл бұрын
Danny Devito still great
@davidmoncholi6746
Жыл бұрын
@@jaygooese4242 I agree
@davidmoncholi6746
Жыл бұрын
I love Danny devito
@Schmytzi
Жыл бұрын
What I find the most unbelievable about Herb is how he, the CEO of a huge car company, somehow became homeless from his company failing. How many bad financial decisions did he make?
@kaitlyn__L
Жыл бұрын
My guess is he over-leveraged the tax trick of taking no salary and living off of credit backed-by and paid-off from his stock price. Once the stock crashed, he might’ve had too much debt that even the buyout by the Japanese car company didn’t cover it. The business _was_ presumably sold at a bargain price. Like, IRL I’m sure someone in that situation would downsize to a normal suburban house. But he is repeatedly shown to really poorly manage his financial decisions. Maybe he did get a normal house but then defaulted on that mortgage.
@juannaym8488
Жыл бұрын
One or two. You would be surprised how many filthy rich people manage to get bankrupt in record time. Look at Kanye. Guy was a mutli-millionaire and his networth is 6 digits in the negative now
@DokiDarling.123
Жыл бұрын
@@kaitlyn__L.....dang you smart gurl
@Aeduo
Жыл бұрын
@@kaitlyn__L Yeah in reality, most people like that are very insulated from their bad decisions. :p
@KingRandor82
Жыл бұрын
This is something that always bothered me: *how* did the car ruin him? If it didn't even go into production, how is he ruined?
@MiroFloydtan
Жыл бұрын
We NEED "Agnes Skinner Sucks", she's arguably the most hateable member of the reccurring cast for many reasons. Not only is she an abusive mother and a backstabber, she won't even let a little girl sit next to her in the bus.
@Michael-590
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really hated how her influence kind of sabotaged Seymour’s wedding with Edna. That episode ticked me off. It’s like no character can have lasting happiness thanks to the writers needing to come up with cheap jokes.
@pushatsinfrared
Жыл бұрын
Tied with Helen Lovejoy
@JStryker47
Жыл бұрын
I did like one particular line of hers though: "In my day, we had people who stood up to ruffians. We called them men!"
@stevenscott1479
Жыл бұрын
im not principal of the line mother!
@MarsofAritia
Жыл бұрын
i like to think that cherry bomb caused her personality shift
@HistoryVideoGamesMiscStuff
Жыл бұрын
For Herb to have become destitute so quickly probably meant he was spending well outside his means. So I can believe he was poor in Changing of the Guardian, he probably overspent his fortune and whatever he was making off the baby monitor business couldn't keep up. Though he probably was better off the second go-around if he could afford a phone plan that included an answering machine. He's probably "living in a rundown bachelor pad" poor, rather than "living in the streets" poor.
@MaydupNem
Жыл бұрын
"Hello, you've reached Herb Powell. I sleep in a racing car, do you?"
@tully6648
Жыл бұрын
Considering the huge mansion and everything for one man... Yes, he definitely was. That he went from super rich to completely homeless so quickly shows he's poor both with money and relationships. Like, he literally had NO ONE that would help him? That's so telling.
@PlanetZoidstar
Жыл бұрын
Herb was likely living in a single room between two bowling alleys. Grimey wasn't using it.
@RubyBlueUwU
Жыл бұрын
@@tully6648excellent point!! The idea that a man could be as influential as him and didn’t have even one couch to surf is telling - hell, he definitely could’ve crashed with Homer if he’d wanted, he clearly wasn’t willing to for some prideful bs. Man was the harbinger of his own downfall
@ChestersonJack
Жыл бұрын
@@MaydupNemA racing car with giant cupholders…
@crimsondynamo615
Жыл бұрын
All of herb’s failures in business can be summed up with this one Simpsons joke, “you got greedy, Martin!”
@maddogsportzjh
Жыл бұрын
Hank Scorpio, who was an evil supervillain, acted more like a loving brother towards Homer.
@WeirdWonderful
Жыл бұрын
Homer did nothing wrong. He tried to tell Herb he is not the person who should design his new car, twice, and he was ignored each and every time. It's literally Herb's fault and no one else's. Also the fact he never checked on the project AT ALL until the public showcase.
@ianfinrir8724
Жыл бұрын
Herb's own engineers told him Homer's ideas sucked
@WeirdWonderful
Жыл бұрын
@@ianfinrir8724 Yeah but my point was, even Homer, as completely full of stupid ideas and totally unwarranted hyper self confidence in those stupid ideas he is, told him straight up he is NOT the right fit for the job. As in, even Homer understood he doesn't know what he is doing.
@palaceofwisdom9448
Жыл бұрын
Recall Grandpa begging Homer not to do anything stupid before he could get there. The intent was to depict Homer as bringing catastrophe wherever he goes, but it falls flat due to the points you raise.
@gaveintothedarkness
Жыл бұрын
Sooooo hes basically Elon Musk?
@spooky6703
Жыл бұрын
@@gaveintothedarkness Elon directly poisons his own ideas, he'd never let someone else come in call a cave rescue tech a pedophile for him
@demi-femme4821
Жыл бұрын
His employees told him Homer's ideas were awful, and Herb just doesn't listen. Lisa was right, his biggest flaw in business is that he's a Simpson.
Maybe he does but Mr. Devito just makes him so damn likeable
@adamcammack3534
Жыл бұрын
One element I think Jim is completely skipping over is Herb is just happy to be with family the episode shows how lonely he is so when Homer comes into his life hes completely beside himself now that hes an uncle and has a brother he thinks Homer must be just like him he'd succeed so hes off giving the kids anything they want to make up for lost time. Again I think its the problem with celebrity voiced characters and shows with a status que I think this early season episode suffered whilst the episodes with Homers Mother worked alot better.
@spencerallison3196
Жыл бұрын
It takes a seriously good episode to be better than Homer's mom coming. I don't know how many of those there really are.
@InfernosReaper
4 ай бұрын
@@adamcammack3534 Shows that use celebrity cameos as characters suffer because either they can't rely on writing those characters in the feature because they have to work around the schedule and budget *or* they have to try to get someone else to voice it and it never sounds right.
@BB-te8tc
Жыл бұрын
That's an interesting observation I never noticed about Herb's out-of-touch nature. Considering his "clawed his way to the top from the bottom" origins, you''d think he'd be in touch with the "average" American and wouldn't need to rely on Homer.
@999darkhorse
Жыл бұрын
i suppose wealth truly does corrupt all who attain it
@DaiMongar
Жыл бұрын
I dunno, people can lose touch with everyday life pretty quickly when they get rich, and Herb probably spent most of his adult life as an executive.
@sonic8005
Жыл бұрын
In real life, many rich people love the idea of claiming they got there exclusively by their own efforts. Especially the ones who were born into wealthy families (or in the possible case of Herb, was adopted into wealth) It's also worth mentiong though that despite the claims of the "Simpson gene" it might be worth pointing out that Herb... shows signs of being possibly intelligent but also shows that he is capable of making incredibly stupid decisions out of laziness... like his half-brother.
@naproupi
Жыл бұрын
Most people whop call themselves "self made men" or the like are usually people who got lucky in business and are out of touch with how most people just can't have their luck or refuse to admit that their sucess wasn't due to how smart they are but just luck favoring some of their bold decisions. Like, you don't actually need to be smart to suceed at one company, if you just happen to create your car firm right before the demand for car increases for unrelated reasons, you're set. But never will you hear a "self made man" saying "yup just made my company and then I got super lucky with how the economy turned out, i'm not that skilled but I like how it turned out" naaah they'll get inflated ego and start lecturing everyone else about taking the same stupid risks they took and calling it "guts" or "business instinct"
@GuyDude-hk8uy
Жыл бұрын
@@naproupi I knew a couple of people like that personally. Got lucky one way or another (knew someone who gave them a referral for an easy-yet-high-paying role as a personal favour; bought low and sold high purely via luck etc.) and all of a sudden start bragging about how they crafted their own success and act as though they're better than everyone. Same as baby-boomers that act like "back in my day we could all get jobs, because we didn't complain all the time and just worked hard!" when in reality they lived in one of the most prosperous periods in recent memory, when getting a well-paid job was as easy as writing a letter without spelling mistakes.
@SayHello2Kevin
Жыл бұрын
The first time I saw Herb say to Maggie "you're going to make me rich" I remember thinking the episode was going to be him kidnapping her or holding her for ransom. They really did try to play with Herb's intentions when he came back.
@floatinghamstick
4 ай бұрын
Calm down Dark Simpsons
@-VoDkAsVengeance-
19 сағат бұрын
@@floatinghamstick Need I remind you that the turn of the plot of one of the first ever episodes majorly hinges on Homer trying to commit suicide because he feels like a failure to the family after losing his job? The Simpsons has tons of horribly dark situations... it's a cartoon sitcom with very little episodic continuity, therefore these situations don't come across as intense as they would be if they were real or in a show where it actually would majorly effect things for good.
@floatinghamstick
17 сағат бұрын
@@-VoDkAsVengeance- no dude, there's a KZitem channel called Dark Simpsons that reedit episodes to make them way darker than they actually are
@palaceofwisdom9448
Жыл бұрын
"I knew I kept the wrong one." - Abraham Simpson upon learning of Herb's wealth Herb is his father's son. That's not an excuse to behave as he does, but it's an explanation. The world taught him that relationships are always transactional.
@dogmendogmen
Жыл бұрын
His mother is literally a prostitute. You can't make relationships much more transactional than that.
@Attmay
Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t help but notice she also looked a bit like Princess Kashmir, the exotic dancer who got Homer in trouble.
@troywright359
Жыл бұрын
@@Attmay haha maybe they were related
@nickrustyson8124
4 ай бұрын
@@troywright359 Welp that made that episode weird
@gabriellafunk2682
Жыл бұрын
My least favorite thing about Herb is that he hires Harvard cronies that he hates when he could fill those positions with more average or self made people. Herb had to work his way through school, and instead of lifting up other people who are driven and industrious, he surrounds himself with rich snobs. He resents them so much that it leads to the Homer debacle and his downfall, so why did he hire them?
@rubywest5166
Жыл бұрын
It depends if he even can outside of attempting a Hail Mary. Unfortunately businesses aren't directly beholden to the customers but to the shareholders, and if they hear "Herb's not hiring Harvard elites" what they hear is "Herb's ruining the business".
@troywright359
Жыл бұрын
it's because he thinks that's what he needs to do to gain success, and they are also great scapegoats for him.
@shizachan8421
9 ай бұрын
@@rubywest5166 I mean, I would imagine that him hiring self-made people from the ground probably could probably be marketed as a hugh selling point for his company, considering how he is a rags to riches self-made man and those are extremely popular in the us cultural landscape, to the point where basically every business owner tries to frame himself as a self-made man in some shape or form.
@ethanmalandain3072
2 ай бұрын
He probably wanted to have people he hates work under him.
@javeman
Жыл бұрын
One thing that always bugged me from these two episodes is that they feel rather like they belong on a cute 80s sitcom rather than The Simpsons. I have nothing against cute family moments on the show but these two episodes fell nothing like they're nothing BUT that. Another thing that bugged me was the complete lack of Grandpa in the second episode. For all intents and purposes he IS Herb's biological dad and he wanted to meet him in the first episode, which he doesn't but is justified by him arriving late after coming out of the hospital (which admittedly gives us the funniest bit in the episode: "I knew you'd blew it!"). But they don't even bother with an excuse in the second episode, it's not even brought up. It would have made for some interesting interactions to have those two finally meet, but instead we have to cope with more scenes of Herb being a jerk to Homer. Great video, btw.
@Chuggaacrayz
Жыл бұрын
I'm all for this becoming a recurring series, taking looks at characters like Herb that either show up too infrequently to be a regular or something you had thoughts about already, and then making this kind of mixture between Simpson Histories and Showdowns wherein you look at the positive and negative aspects from their spotlight episodes. Would be great to see and listen to.
@olthomas
Жыл бұрын
I feel like it was a really missed opportunity that they never made more Herb episodes of him slowly growing closer to the family. Ending with him apologizing for his missteps on the way to meeting his brother.
@brandonhaygood5286
Жыл бұрын
It's not too late to have an episode that does that.
@InvadeNormandy
Жыл бұрын
@@brandonhaygood5286 IT really is, Simpsons died before season 10. We don't have the Simpsons anymore.
@smokeyjoe291
Жыл бұрын
@@InvadeNormandyboring take 🥱
@322killuminati
4 ай бұрын
I never thought of this, but I agree.
@bagingi7916
3 ай бұрын
@@smokeyjoe291 saying that you need to breathe to live isn't that interesting either
@StarWolf5298
Жыл бұрын
It always stood out to me that Herb wasn't one of the family members Homer called in the Simpsons gene episode. He would have been an example of a (somewhat) successful male Simpson. Also Apu should've gotten one of those baby translators.
@usermcskull4713
Жыл бұрын
Honestly idk if Apu understanding what his octoplets were saying would make him more or less crazy. Like that kinda sounds like hell 🤷♀️
@Damocles178
Жыл бұрын
One thing worth noting is that Homer himself does manage to go against the Simpsons male gene too in a later episode when it's revealed his true intelligence was only suppressed because of a crayon lodged in his brain.
@Eric6761
Ай бұрын
For me the Simpson gene has nothing to do with success, herb was Just arrogant and paid
@fierifipor
Жыл бұрын
Herb should’ve considered professional boxing. He drops Homer with one punch when we know that even Drederick Tatum couldn’t take him off his feet
@OH_MY_DOGGG
Жыл бұрын
Damn. Theres so many levels of being a Simpson fan. Thats really smart observation.
@Schattennebel
Жыл бұрын
Maybe the writers simply forgot about it.
@mooreanonumbers
Жыл бұрын
NGL if an US-based manufacturer made a compact named Persephone in the 90s I'd be obsessed with it today
@Derekivery
Жыл бұрын
Homer's car is oddly one of the few times Homer is 0% at fault for the bad thing that happened in the episode. All Homer did was try to get his brother better, Herb was the one who tried to use Homer to save his company. And then a year later he mooches off of Homer and uses Homer's baby to make money. Homer learns he has a brother and sees family, Herb learns he has a brother and sees dollar signs.
@JohnScaer
Жыл бұрын
Your point at 10:15 is something I noticed about this episode from the first time I watched it. People hated Ford’s Edsel, but the company didn’t disappear because of it. Herb’s company was clearly quite successful at one point. But, if a single bad product launch completely and totally destroyed it, Powell Motors was already on the very brink of disaster anyway.
@princessmarlena1359
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@bonniesbitchin
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this take after decades of back and forth. I dont think anyone who likes Herb is bad or smth stupid but this delightfully captures how i personally feel about the issue
@Santoryu90
Жыл бұрын
Being voiced by Danny DeVito is the only redeeming thing about Herb.
@e-122psi3
Жыл бұрын
Concerning the baby translator, it's weird it got ignored in concept, though it's also kinda logical it would be ignored in The Simpsons universe. I could 100% see almost every deadbeat parent in the series trashing the thing after their baby gives too many specific requests or says too many awkward revealing things in public. Like with old people, this is an asshole universe that wants as many people inactive and as manageable as possible. Hell maybe this is what caused Herb's second downfall.
@woodch
Жыл бұрын
This is the kind of fair and balanced journalism the world so desperately needs today.
@Killermike2178
Жыл бұрын
How about "Jacqueline Bouvier Sucks" next? In "Moaning Lisa", her advice to Marge, just woof! In "Bart vs. Thanksgiving ", she comes into the Simpson household from the back side, and just so happens to walk by the kitchen window to spy on Marge's kitchen activities to look for something to nitpick, and then her very first words to Marge in the episode are "I have laryngitis, and it hurts to talk, so I'll just say one thing: You never do anything right." In "Lady Bouvier's Lover", she dumps Grampa for Mr. Burns at the drop of a hat, and scoffs at Marge's objection to marrying Mr. Burns, "That man is scum!", to which Jacqueline replies, "Then, call me Mrs. Scum..." Finally, she outright refuses Grampa's ask to marry him instead of Mr. Burns, albeit also dumping Mr. Burns at the altar, which is as close to her not sucking as we will ever get with her. Oh, and how she treats Homer in both flashback episodes "The Way We Was" and "I Married Marge", ugh. Clearly, Patty and Selma take after her...
@Toraryuko
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that "Then, call me Mrs. Scum..." was said by Selma when Bart objected against he marriage with sideshow Bob in 03x21 The Black Widower. I've just seen the episode.
@Killermike2178
Жыл бұрын
@@Toraryuko Oh, you're right. Though, I'm pretty sure Marge and Jackie had a similar conversation. What is it with Bouvier women being terrible with picking husbands? Sorry, Marge...
@MarsofAritia
Жыл бұрын
abe is pretty horrible too, and really mona is not much better. pretty interesting that all the simpson grandparents are pretty bad people.
@jogeran4955
Жыл бұрын
That "It doesn't matter how you feel on the inside, it's what shows on the outside that counts, so bury those feelings all the way down" thing her mother told her in Moaning Lisa really explains a lot about Marge's character and why she puts up with everything that she does.
@PlanetZoidstar
Жыл бұрын
Bart was right all along in his assessment of Herb. Just not in the way he meant it. *"Bastard-Bastard. Bastard-Bastard. Bastard-Bastard."*
@e-122psi3
Жыл бұрын
What's amusing is that Two Dimes was practically written just so the team could give Herb a happy ending, and yet the DVD commentary and phone gag afterwards implies they had a similar realization that "Wait a minute? Herb's actually a jerk!". :P It's almost a funny in-joke, that they made such a charismatic and emotionally manipulative character that he fooled everyone, even THE WRITERS THEMSELVES, into not only giving him a bail out, but believing that they OWED him one.
@thirstfast1025
Жыл бұрын
"Hey Herb, we're going to Joey Jo-Jo's"
@darthlord1997
Жыл бұрын
*Reads Title* "Say what?"
@Theottselmaster
4 ай бұрын
Herb is the downside of having a famous person voice a character. He deserved to be in more episodes considering he's Homers half BROTHER.
@Jasonwolf1495
Жыл бұрын
Honestly i think its all a victim of the show's style and Herb being a guest star. They needed clean cuts at the end. Easiest way to do that is to have something that makes Herb go far away from the Simpsons. If he was voiced by a regular, heck have Dan Casteleneta voice him then Id expect him to play a bigger role. Honestly I often wish the simpsons would do that a little more. Not that we need an infinitely growing cast but just keeping and paying off these characters we meet more.
@schwarzerritter5724
Жыл бұрын
The reason Herb never came back was probably because he has a celebrity voice actor. That makes bringing Herb for a future episode harder.
@Gabo2oo
Жыл бұрын
I feel this way with Laura Powers. It would've been cool if she kept showing up even in non-speaking cameos, but as a guest star she was barely ever acknowledged again. It's especially weird because Ruth Powers got it way better, she became an extra on the show and apparently they still imply she's the Simpsons' neighbor nowadays (even though they'd done the opposite for her appearence as a bodybuilder).
@joethomas4935
Жыл бұрын
"I don't know what happened in Herb's personal life", the guy was literally abandoned at an orphanage as a child
@NyQuilDonut
3 ай бұрын
I assume that a lot more happened in his personal life between the time he was abandoned, and when he met Homer. Also, literally for no reason.
@bentencho
Жыл бұрын
Herb sounds like a broken man with a history of trauma. Perhaps his upbringing was very difficult, thus he was constantly on survival mode. Without any warm and connections, he only saw money and wealth as a indicator of one's worth in the world, hence he strived to make to the top of the corporate world. He was at a mid-life crisis when the Simpsons arrived, and he immediately bonded with Marge, Maggie, Liza and Bart as they were the family and childhood he never had. That's one of the reason he shirks his responsibility at his company, he even told Bart how he just wanted to watch cartoons all day, etc. His anger towards Homer was misdirected as it appears he never showed his vulnerabilities, but he opened up to the Simpsons. The results, he let his emotions override his logical mind and it brought him ruins. I wish they brought him back on the show or at least referenced him. Not him being poor, but maybe how he's still rich and reconnected with his humanity. That he's out saving people, like Moe.
@camelopardalis84
Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by Moe saving people?
@bentencho
Жыл бұрын
@camelopardalis8506 the episode where Homer did boxing, the ending had Moe steal the flying parachute and clips of him helping people around the world. Plus a later season episode of the kids lost on an abandoned island, it was mentioned everyone was saved by Moe.
@camelopardalis84
Жыл бұрын
@@bentencho Okay, that's what you meant. I clearly remembered that first thing, but not the second one. I despise modern-ish Moe since, possibly due to only one single episode, he has gone from harmless sexual harass-y creep to actual criminal in that regard.
@matthill3293
Жыл бұрын
Though I agree with some of this, I don't think Herb is completely bad. The bond he forms with Bart and Lisa is completely genuine. Him asking them to teach him about cartoons as well as asking them to call him Uncy Herb is endearing and taking them for pony/boat rides is something he didn't have to do (it may have spoiling them but that's not uncommon for aunties/uncles with no kids of their own). He's also pleased to see Bart and Lisa despite not having anything to gain from them unlike he does from Maggie. So yes, I do agree that Herb is a bit of a dick but I think there are good characteristics (mainly his fondness for his niece and nephew) that are glossed over here. It's also relative since Abe only seemed to want to know Herb when he knew he was a millionaire and after he found out Homer wrecked it, never mentions him again.
@legojay14
Жыл бұрын
Something that comes to mind as an interesting angle given the "maybe he found another half sibling" is the idea that a show could be around herb constantly meeting new siblings,getting rich,and then falling apart due to either himself or others. Would certainly be a good reason to have a answering machine to say hes poor
@Lasherluke
7 ай бұрын
Homer tried his best with his brother both times but Herb obviously doesnt appreciate him.
@garden6008
Жыл бұрын
If Herb were to have another episode centered around him, what would you want it to be like?
@liviolangella2777
Жыл бұрын
Act 1: The Simpson house gets broken because of a natural disaster, meanwhile Homer gets a lot of money in a crazy way. The family is planning to use that for something important like fixing the house when Herb knocks at the door. Act 2: Herb is acting very friendly to Homer and the family and then he ‘casually’ mentions that he’s having some financial difficulties and he asks for his brother new fortune. This time all the family is hesitant because they really need to fix the house. That’s when Herb snaps at them yelling about how Homer ruined his company and says something very rude about Marge and the kids. He’s about to leave the house, but Homer stops him to punch him in the face and then kicks him out. Act 3: Homer is still angry about Herb but Marge convinces him to forgive him. Homer goes to Herb to make amends, when the step-brother hands him a lawsuit for aggression and tells him that if he gives the money he will drop it and tell them that they will be a family again. Homer is about to accept the deal, when Marge and the kids arrive and rebuke Herb for how terrible he’s always been to his brother and how callous he’s been to appear only when he needs money. They conclude by saying: “Go ahead! Sue us! We have an entire pile of lawsuits!” In the end the family uses the money to fix the house and turns out that Herb’s lawsuit was just a gamble to get their money. Herb’s try to be forgiven for his behavior but Homer kicks him out of his life
@supersneed6433
Жыл бұрын
herb get ipad
@ColinElkin-ce1337
Жыл бұрын
He hasn't met his father yet. An episode where Herb and Abe finally meet could be interesting.
@Toraryuko
Жыл бұрын
How about Herb's crazy wedding, where something happens do-do-do do-doooo
@usermcskull4713
Жыл бұрын
Treehouse of Horror where Herb goes crazy due to yet another bankrupcy and tries to kill Homer, thinking everything will be fine once Homer's out of the picture. Soon after Brother, Can You Spare Two Dimes?, Mr Burns offers to buy the patent for the baby translator in exchange for a huge sum of money. Once Herb gives him the patent and asks for the money, Burns acts oblivious and says stuff like "what money? which causes Herb to get furious and attack Burns. He gets restrained by Burns' bodyguards and ends up being sued for assault, Herb tries to argue that Burns stole his entire livelihood away but Burns just keeps acting oblivious to it. Herb loses all his money, after the trial Smithers tells him "Sorry, Burns has recently started taking memory loss pills as a joke. No I don't get it either." Suddenly he gets a phone call from Homer, he tells him that he's poor again and than Homer ends the call. "Oh, too good to help out your stinkin' brother, huh? HOMER!!!!" Idk what happens next
@42ndLife
Жыл бұрын
I figure that once people realized the baby translator was a fraud they sued Herb into oblivion.
@DIEGhostfish
Жыл бұрын
7:15 or Herb has Homer's number screened to play that message to keep homer from ever asking for money back.
@ghyuty17
Жыл бұрын
I like how Jims created a series purely from hatred of a fictional character. The pettiness is palpable and I love it.
@ianfinrir8724
Жыл бұрын
Yup. He's a Simpson's fan alright.
@stormstrider1990
7 ай бұрын
Herb losing his fortune was not Homer's fault. It was he who left Homer in charge of that project.
@bob8776
Жыл бұрын
It makes sense that he treats every interaction as transactional when you consider that his very existence is due to one transactional interaction
@matti.8465
Жыл бұрын
I never liked the theme of "The Simpson family is doomed to failure and ruin everything they touch" theme in some episodes, and this is a perfect example as to why. This wasn't a case of Homer receiving power and getting in way over his head, he literally shared his insecurities with Herb, and got pressured into moving forward anyway. The show has a tendency to get really men spirited sometimes, which can work, but it feels cruel when all Homer really wanted was to have a relationship with his half brother.
@EndOfSmallSanctuary97
Жыл бұрын
Feels like a lite version of the truly reprehensible revelation of all the Simpson men being stupid years later.
@twindrill2852
Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Homer. He did the damndest to make his half-brother proud, but all of that led to him being disowned. And even after that Homer still held next to no grudges toward him. Poor guy.
@plunkdaddy4505
Жыл бұрын
Herb is a schmuck and I love him for it. The Herb Powell episodes were just so unique. There is no other Simpson episode like “oh borther, where art thou”. Its such a unique hang out episode so early into the show. If the whole episode was just them hanging out, I would probably like it even more. In “Brother, can you spare a dime”, seeing the level of hostility he has towards Homer is definitely off putting. Like it feels like the writers of the episode only watched the end of the other episode. Regardless, it is fun watching his journey to the Simpson family and seeing him spend time with Maggie. In conclusion Herb Powell sucks but his episodes are so unique and different I wouldn’t want him to be any other way.
@RubyBlueUwU
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it bums me out seeing them argue - I absolutely loved the dynamic between him and the family
@Bruh-zx2mc
Жыл бұрын
"Like it feels like the writers of the episode only watched the end of the other episode" Like the writers picked up on the fact Homer ruined Herb's life and that someone as rich as Herb would much rather blame Homer than himself for putting Homer in charge. The episode is completely fine and does not contradict his personality.
@Attmay
Жыл бұрын
And then the Simpsons themselves ended up homeless and needed Ned Flanders to bail them out.
@shupasopni
Жыл бұрын
@@Bruh-zx2mc From what I'm seeing it sounds like Herb ruined his life rather than Homer.
@Bruh-zx2mc
Жыл бұрын
@@shupasopni And Herb blames Homer. So why wouldn't he punch the person he blames for his loss?
@sjmhadsock4586
Жыл бұрын
No one to blame himself Homer warned him twice
@pizzakoe
Жыл бұрын
I still think a episode about a famous location, like Moe's tavern, Springfield elementary, or the town hall would make a good episode. The one about evergreen terrace was great!
@jessaminemanchester
Жыл бұрын
This video is like Succession to me lmao. But seriously, being able to actually see an in depth look at how and why Herb Powell is a terrible person despite how the narrative frames him actually makes me more empathetic towards him while also completely agreeing with your points. The idea of Herb being so scarred by his business failings as the Simpsons came into his life that he now views all family relationships as a means to a financial end is so tragic, it makes me feel bad for him while also still seeing him as completely in the wrong. I love how this video was able to add some depth to a controversial guest star character while still 100% agreeing he sucks.
@woobgamer5210
4 ай бұрын
As Lisa said, his biggest flaw is that he was a Simpson. every simpson, whether its the kids, Homer, even Marge, they are really stubborn
@kys7720
Жыл бұрын
I remember watching the episode where Herb gets introduced and i genuinely still think the reason Herb basically swaps his life with Homer's (Putting Homer in charge of his company being the main example of this) wasn't so much that he wanted to experience what it's like to have a family, but i think he was absolutely trying to take Homer's place in the family.Oh Brother, Where art thou is such a weird episode with a genuinely baffling ending. I also felt so bad for the executives and car designers this episode, they're painted as being bad, despite them actively being in the right and actually wanting to steer the company away from the obvious failure that Homer's design is going to cause, but Herb completely shuts this down.
@e-122psi3
Жыл бұрын
In fairness the executives and designers were also snobs who were making unsuccessful ideas that were slowly ruining the company anyway. They don't make any cars that appeal to working class, and when Homer is sent to work with them they just started making their usual car without him, and getting grouchy and shooing him away when he asks about the specifics (the fact he doesn't even know what those features are and couldn't be bothered to explain their productivity should likely be warning sign they are once again making a car for THEM rather than the working man) When Homer steps in a second time and this time puts his foot down, the lead engineer phones Herb before Homer has even STARTED screwing up in what is implied to be a very insulting complaint that leads Herb to just think he is being a pompous ass. They were ultimately right in the end, but really, like Herb, they failed to add much productive to the table themselves and their bad attitude just made things worse. i could argue their first design that they made for Homer (under protest) might have been a good car, an actual compromise of his better ideas put into a marketable design, though sadly Homer had gone mad with power by then. Really it kinda shows the importance of creators and business/market calling things halfway and how either side being difficult just leads to a mess and even ruin. It really felt like NO ONE was really right in the end and was just too difficult to prevent the downhill momentum.
@W1ldestride
Жыл бұрын
I think “Maude sucks”, “Sanjay sucks”, or “the lovejoys suck” would be a great series
@ANDCFC95
Жыл бұрын
What have you got against Sanjay?
@W1ldestride
Жыл бұрын
Sanjay has no personality other than he is apu’s brother, has a kid, has a yearly party, is apparently an alcoholic, and co owns the Springfield kwiki mart. Really there’s no reason for me to enjoy him, he has like three funny moments that I can’t think of
@DesperateHornet
Жыл бұрын
I was SOOOO hoping you would actually make this video, my admiration is immeasurable and my day is made
@Delightfully_Bitchy
Жыл бұрын
The fact that he was only in two episodes tells us that the writer's thought Herb sucked to. After all, it can't be that Danny Devito is expensive, because they replaced every other celebrate voiced character with a regular. (Like Krusty's daughter.) Hell, the fact that the staff felt they needed an episode to fix his first appearance says it all.
@jamessnedeker4799
11 ай бұрын
I wanted an episode that placed Homer in the middle of a battle between Herb Powell's corporate ventures and Mona Simpson's protest against Herb's company
@usermcskull4713
Жыл бұрын
Now that I think about it, Herb blaming Homer actually feels more like a coping mechanism than anything. Imagine that you sunk your own company and it's entirely your fault, can you imagine how that would feel? I imagine that this would completely eat up Herb inside, that he'd look for any rationalization for what happened. Maybe Herb has a habit for projecting, since in season 24 we hear that he's bankrupt again, maybe he's actually gotten bankrupt many times before and just kept blaming other people for his downfalls. Like that could be why he seemingly doesn't have any contact with his parents anymore
@BluWoolify
Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of calling the obligatory defence section "Playing Flander's Advicate" seeing as Ned has portrayed the devil
@pickyphysicsstudent201
Жыл бұрын
Despite him sucking as a character, I think he could work as a semi-reoccuring character who shows up for an episode every other season. Much like Sideshow Bob. They managed to get at least 10 Bob wants to kill Bart episodes out of that. They could easily think of some for Herb to antagonise Homer or they work together for a get rich quick scheme which blows up in their faces.
@EngineerRiff
Жыл бұрын
Bro just called Herb Powell a vacuum cleaner
@CheeseYeen
Жыл бұрын
You know one thing I really appreciate about your style is how little "junk" there is. You set out what you're going to explain, you explain it, done. No gimmicks, no "clickbait" or other filler, it's all straight and to the point. It's weirdly refreshing.
@alexneill8338
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these two episodes, especially the second one, but that’s because I’m not overly fussed about whether Herb is “good” or “bad” person. I’be never been too invested in his emotional arc, if indeed he has one. When it comes down to it, they’re just really really funny episodes, and Danny DeVito’s performance absolutely crackles with energy and charisma. That’s what these episodes are really about for me.
@phantomstrider
Жыл бұрын
This title made me laugh out loud when I saw it pop up 😄 Perfect follow-up good sir.
@TheRealJims
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Strider!
@olleselin
Жыл бұрын
Man,i really miss this character. I really liked him (especially since he was a missing part of Homer's youth) It sucks how criminally underused he became throughout the show's course :(
@GemR38
Жыл бұрын
There was a ton of potential there for the two brothers to develop a relationship would have been so interesting to watch it happen bit by bit.
@durianthesleepy
Жыл бұрын
I am praying, begging even, that in the future iterations of this not-yet series the counterargument section remains "The obligatory "Maybe Herb doesn't suck that much" argument". Not "Maybe Barney doesn't suck" or "Maybe Willie doesn't suck that much", just keep it "Herb" regardless of the character Also... like... I don't know where to say this but I always thought of Herb Powell when Homer adopted the pseudonym of Max Powers.
@JagoHazzard
Жыл бұрын
You know, I bet they could make a really good episode where he actually does get called out on the way he uses people. But instead of centring it on the relationship between Herb and Homer, it might be fun to have his main interaction be with another Simpson - I'm thinking Marge.
@Hamzakarim00
4 ай бұрын
This was the first video of yours i ever watched, and it got me instantly hooked
@BrazenBull001
Жыл бұрын
Herb's downfall was inevitable. Homer just sped it up a little.
@Anime-Doom
Жыл бұрын
In defence of Herb not contacting any of the family after losing everything I can absolutely sympathise with that inaction. Like you said, Herb is a deeply unhappy person and unless you've been through depression yourself you have no idea how hard it can be to bring yourself to contact people when you're at a low point, even if you really want to. And if you ask me someone THAT lonely throughout their life experiencing such a calamitous loss and living just to survive... Yeah, I doubt I'd be able to do it either. He's still kind of a douchebag though, not defending everything he did.
@titanomachy2217
Жыл бұрын
The knocker on the Simpson family home's front door is so weird.
@Snivy100
8 ай бұрын
Finally someone else finally thinks so too. I have no idea what it’s supposed to be.
@titanomachy2217
7 ай бұрын
@@Snivy100 It looks almost like a weird alien bird. I guess it's supposed to be nothing, just a strangely-shaped door knocker.
@rozasupreme
Жыл бұрын
I was always confused how Homer's car bankrupted the company for $82,000. Like, how did Herb only have that much in the company?
@justjohnny420
Жыл бұрын
Knowing Herb he probably spent a bunch of money having several of them manufactured before ever seeing them
@Toraryuko
Жыл бұрын
I believe there was a whole bunch of such cars produced already so they could be bought right away by the interested buyers.
@McConnor28
Жыл бұрын
$82,000 was the retail price of the car. So not only was it awful, its price tag made it out of reach for the common man it was aimed at.
@Bruh-zx2mc
Жыл бұрын
The cost of developing a car likely outweighs the retail price.
@haileybalmer9722
Жыл бұрын
I was always kind of surprised that no one wanted to buy a Homer. They were expensive, but you'd never have to listen to your kids arguing in the backseat. In all seriousness, I think Herb has a fairly complex background and he's suffering something a lot of people end up suffering. He grew up poor, he tells us that, and he worked his way through a business degree at a prestigious university. He clawed his way up in a sketchy field being abandoned by its old money managers, and he ended up hiring a bunch of people who didn't take him seriously. He has exactly one employee who tries to tell him this is all a really bad idea, the rest of them just roll their eyes, smile, and get on with it, because what does Herb know? He's just a janitor really. And I could forgive a lot of sins for that, you know, I could, if he hadn't decided to rope his little brother into it and make him a scapegoat. It wasn't even to save face, he just needed to be able to live with himself after his company failed. Then he shows up on Homer's front porch to ask for help, and he cold clocks him? REALLY? What an absolute turd.
@GermanPeter
Жыл бұрын
The main reason he sucks: banking your entire company's success on the ideas of a single man who has no experience in the business world and neither with cars. As stupid as Homer might be, Herb should have known better. That was a moronic idea from the beginning, and blaming Homer for it, even though Herb is literally the one person in charge who could have axed the idea at any point, was even stupider. Good will doesn't make for good business, experience does. Homer only has the former, Herb has the latter. Herb was an idiot for relying on Homer too much.
@SeriousPeopleStudios
Жыл бұрын
It's funny, when you lay all this out, it makes Herb sound like fascinating, well-written, multi-faceted, tragic villain. One who has good qualities that charm people to his point of view, and a sad backstory, but a fundamental greed, ego, narcissism and selfishness that ultimately ruins everything. Like Lex Luthor believing he could save the world if only Superman didn't "cause" all of his problems, and being unable to see his own faults. The only aspect that makes Herb not as interesting is the narrative's complete disinterest in portraying him that way. That instead of having any of his own tragic flaws, the writers agreed with his simplistic blaming of Homer. I wonder, if the narrative took Homer's side and made Herb more of an antagonist, if he could've been more of a Sideshow Bob kind of character, and be beloved in the fanbase.
@casanovafunkenstein5090
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, I feel like they definitely could have done more with him but they might have struggled to make it funny for this guy to transition into something like that. Sideshow Bob has the benefit of being a funny idea from the outset: this ridiculous comedy character who's also an intellectual and a violent psychopath. The closest you could really get with that and still have a lighter tone would be to run with the idea that he's a con man. Have him keep reaching out to Homer to demonstrate some new gadget or business idea, only for the other members of the family to cotton on to the fact that he's exploiting Homer's ignorance of business and investment for personal gain. I guess that's still pretty fucked up. I think it's difficult to make it work because he's just a guy. He's a bit too realistic in set up for him to become a recurrent antagonist/stalker without it really pushing into legitimately uncomfortable territory.
@Iffy350
3 ай бұрын
TBF Danny DeVito is quite the perfect voice actor for Homer’s twin brother.
@randomname285
Жыл бұрын
Great analysis - one of your best I was about to say all the more impressive given the lack of source material, but actually maybe that helped - minus a couple of throwaway jokes in the later seasons, all the material we have about him is from a cohesive story-driven two episode arc, perhaps its easy to get a sense of a character's drivers and personality when it isn't muddied by twenty+ years of subtle changes to suit whatever the story demands on a given day
@randomname285
Жыл бұрын
Also its testament to Danny Devito that I'm not picturing him when hearing Powell (unlike for example Kelsey Grammar) - he very much feels like his own guy
@birdmoney
Жыл бұрын
Herb could seriously have his own mini series. He's like Bojack Horseman
@familygash7500
Жыл бұрын
Well in Herbert's defence: he hadn't known Homer for very long, so he probably wasn't yet aware of just how stupid Homer is. I guess he assumed that Homer shared his car designing skills, since he was related. But I do see how Herbert comes across as a bit of a narcissist. And also, that thumbnail is just terrifying.
@jogeran4955
Жыл бұрын
He deliberately chose Homer because he viewed him as an everyday guy. He knew full well Homer wasn't an expert in car manufacture, and that's why he chose him, because he thought an average person like Homer would design a car that ordinary people want more than the experts. That's the thing: Herb knowingly put someone with no experience in the field whatsoever in the command seat, didn't bother to put any limits on him, berated his technical staff for bringing up reasonable concerns, ect. If you put someone who's never designed a car before, in charge of a car company's future, and don't bother to give them any oversight, I don't think you have anyone to blame but yourself.
@InvadeNormandy
Жыл бұрын
I know it's written for laughs and comedy and "It's not that deep" but if we are deep diving here. But good point at the 3 minute mark. The entire design process phasing of the homer mobile... The fact Herb was just as surprised and shocked as everyone else to see the prototype reveal means that he just wandered off after yelling at his staff to let homer do whatever, and never came back to check on the progress, was never curious or excited about what his brother was up to genuinely business acumen aside, and never came back to check on homer to see if they were silencing his input again. Literally he failed himself by failing homer as a brother, a mentor, an equal, and a better all at the same time. That and even if you were faltering and flailing in the business- You realistically wouldn't immediately start production on a thing you just revealed, it's a protototype at a show, and you could easily dismiss it as a miscommunication or an internal prank/joke/placeholder or spin it with some good old fashioned apple "Reality Distortion field" marketing... Herb was a bad PR frontman and business man, full stop. That and if that is all it takes to ruin a company, there would be no companies left as I can name a dozen that have had a disastrous product launch (Not even a REVEAL). And on a more directly related analogy like car recalls or flopped butt of joke models in the auto indirestly, or things like "Oopsie doopsie" type automotive recalls in the past decade like the infamous stuck brakes issue as well. And as far as ugly or tacky or who would ever prototypes- Do you remember the early to mid 2000s, aka the age of the white background CGI render product and proof of concept? Where every other leaked source or official company was showing a new revolutionary made up "MAYBE ONE DAY!" Devices like random handheld games and weird looking cars that would never work in practice. And how we were by the end of it all bored to tears of the theoretical future without a single one of those things coming to pass? Yeah. Every company that got too excited about their graphics design department getting "Good computers" is still alive and kicking turns out. TL;DR Herb Sucks and would get rinsed by anyone with a fleeting interest in marketing or economy.
@user-vb4jh1pp1o
Жыл бұрын
In that simpsons comics issue, where they parody Carl barks stories there’s throwaway line, that Herb sold his title of “uncle” to mr Burns. In exchange of “charitable donation”. I always thought this was very cruel joke, but come to think about it… man, those writers… they really did understand these characters.
@Kill3rballoon
Жыл бұрын
My headcanon is that Herb found the “I am woman, hear me roar!” female Homer, and married her. I will accept no questions and provide no elaboration.
@maxordman4100
Жыл бұрын
I personally don’t see Herb as a terrible character. However this video was very delightful and I can see the potential in doing more videos like this. I liked the maybe section a lot. You obviously could tell from your comments section that both episodes have fans who like them including the sequel. The first episode is still the best. The Baby translator is indeed a very strange device but I totally believe that such a thing could exist in the Simpsons world. Herb definitely has some sweet moments with Bart and Lisa. I genuinely feel like “Uncy Herb” represents the hidden inner sweet guy who actually wants to reconnect with unknown family members. I would be very happy to see more videos like this. There are definitely some other characters who could use this kind of analysis. There are also some characters who also appear in only a couple episodes that could use more attention. I think that you could also try doing a “Ruth Powers Rocks” video. Her episodes were really cool and she has a big fan base!
@KatamariParty
Жыл бұрын
I honestly love Herb even though all of this is valid. Except the ghosting part I personally disagree with, considering the fact that a Mr. Devito fetches a pretty penny these days, I don’t think it’s even possible to bring him back even if the writers wanted too. A shame he never sent any letters though.
@lordnoodle2146
Жыл бұрын
I think they could probably get Danny Devito. Considering they got maybe A Listers at the peak of their popularity. I think they just ditched him because it would be difficult to syndicate episodes if there were such a shake up. Maybe if these two episodes came out in the later seasons we would have seen him more. Would be nice to have him return to the Simpsons as millionaire because his lack of family left him with a void or something and maybe had the Simpsons get sick of him and get him out on the dating scene but I think he left on a really good note
@e-122psi3
Жыл бұрын
@@lordnoodle2146 It's interesting that Herb didn't get a few returns even in that era when The Simpsons was bringing back some noteworthy guest stars like Artie Ziff and Rabbi Krustofski recurrently, complete with their celebrity VAs. The fact they even got DeVito to do that quick phone call gag reeks of 'they could but just don't wanna'.
@bertmustin
Жыл бұрын
I've read Danny DeVito isn't interesting in doing a full episode guest appearance. He's not a good enough character to have a regular voice actor in the role.
@lordnoodle2146
Жыл бұрын
@@bertmustin Tbf part of the Simpson's charm is that they are the every man dealing with day to day struggles. I think a character like Herb would upset that dynamic. His main character trait is being rich / being broke. If he is rich pretty much all of the Simpsons money problems go away and if he is broke then any plot would be pretty much redonent as we have seen that plot play out with Gill, Apu, Otto, Kent Brockman... Those are 4 that came to mind but I didn't have to think hard to remember 4 examples so I am assuming there are a lot more. I think I would be a little more satisfied if he actually did write or his photo was a background feature. Just to show he stayed in touch
@KatamariParty
Жыл бұрын
Just replying to all of this, I dunno much about the whole business side of the Simpsons so I get the idea that they probably could get Danny. I’d imagine recurring instances of Sideshow Bob and even characters that Albert Brooks does are a lot of cash. I dunno why I even like Herb Powell anyway, maybe because his Homer-esque appearance or his go-getter personality being such a stark contrast to the Simpson family. Maybe because I’ve been trying to unlock him in Tapped Out for the longest time. Or Danny Devito. Chances are that last one.
@deskish3930
4 ай бұрын
6:36 "homer's brother in law"?
@MarcZERO1980
Жыл бұрын
When I saw the title of the video and the thumbnail I assumed it was a Dark Simpsons video.
@dmansuperich2800
Жыл бұрын
I think the sequel episode makes him way more dislikable than the first. Like he has flaws that lead to his downfall in his debut episode but atleast I can see why you would like his character (Danny Devito’s voice REALLY helps). However, in the sequel episode he always felt off to me.
@MmmMmph1968
Жыл бұрын
Make more videos like this. This was extremely entertaining
@kevinmc3252
Жыл бұрын
Disney should bring herb back, and make it so herb is ceo of Disney now
@seatspud
Жыл бұрын
That makes way too much sense.
@jonathanstempleton7864
Жыл бұрын
I like the "so-and-so sucks" idea. Future suggestions: Herman Hermann, Artie Ziff, Judge Snyder, Terri (but not Sherri), Fat Tony, Gabbo, Dr Marvin Monrie, Lindsey Neagle, Birch Barlow, and Kodos (but not Kang). They all suck.
@e-122psi3
Жыл бұрын
I think another glaring point is that upon bankruptsy in the first episode, Herb leaves but seems to be fairly stable, but by the next episode he is a freaking hobo. I doubt the Simpsons would have just let him walk off if he literally didn't have any financial support when they last saw him, which implied Herb, a so called self made man who worked his way to the top scrubbing toilets, couldn't even hold a basic living and actually exacerbated his already bad position in between that time to the point he's living on the streets, again all while claiming everything befallen him is down to Homer. I mean it fits, all the hobos seem to be telling stories denying how they screwed themselves over. ("I said I'll fix the logo, put Mickey's pants back on. Some guys you just can't reason with.")
@BetweenTheBorders
Жыл бұрын
"I will think of a better name later" is the most powerful way to make that name last forever. :D
@OneMadApple
Жыл бұрын
thank you! the herb episodes always annoyed me. they make it clear that his company is already losing the majority of his market share to overseas companies when homer finds him. he then forces an unwilliing idiot (who still has more self-awareness and common sense than he does, apparently) into a pivotal role that will make or break the company, ignores everyone warning him not to, and when things collapse, he becomes (more of) an abusive, manipulative bully, something he is then unequivocably rewarded for at the end of the second episode. "but aww, they hugged at the end!" no. just no. this is not a happy ending. this is a physically and emotionally abusive person being rewarded for their awful behavior with more wealth. cartoons don't have to have lessons, but that doesn't mean i won't raise an eyebrow when they actively showcase bad lessons in a show that plenty of kids are going to watch.
@safebox36
Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for him in the first episode. But later comics make him less likeable. Tries to get ruch again via Homer and his family, but plans to cut them in. After that fails, everything he does later is an attempt to spite Homer for managing to have a perfect life in spite of his flaws.
@LowellLucasJr.
Жыл бұрын
Unkie Herb rocks!!! He needs to return!!! Just sad we haven't seen him since season 3....😢
@Wolfstarzan
Жыл бұрын
But what about Homer's older British half-sister?
@LowellLucasJr.
Жыл бұрын
@@Wolfstarzan Now that's a real mystery....
@Bird-wz7nx
5 ай бұрын
Imagine him showing back up in six years, working with Apu for some kind of pediatric tech startup
@THEANIMEFANZ_
Жыл бұрын
I'm going to like this ideas for simpsons' characters you don't like getting a "spot light" for why you do not like them
@jameswinslow8540
5 ай бұрын
I mean for the first point he's the ceo, they are responsible for getting the martials and people to create the product and market it. They are not necessarily ideas people it's kind of like being a movie producer.
@DanielD-no1gp
Жыл бұрын
The worst part is that he owns a company in the first place.
@mikeroagreschen5350
Жыл бұрын
He appears to be the CEO; I would think Powell Motors is publicly traded.
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