Miles: “Man, Herb looks depressed.” Wayne: “Lol go up all serious & tell him some silly shit.” Miles: “lol aight I got an idea.”
@MichaelCrutcher
3 жыл бұрын
Except Miles didn't play with Coltrane and Herbie in the same band. I'm not sure Herbie ever played with Trane.
@davidadu8559
3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelCrutcher miles and Coltrane were close, miles gave a soprano saxophone to Coltrane and he even played modal jazz with it
@danielkim7790
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidadu8559 Yeah, Miles and Coltrane were close. But what the commenter is pointing out is that Coltrane's time playing with Miles in his band (mid to late 50's) never overlapped with the period Herbie spent playing with Miles (mid to late 60's)
@davidadu8559
3 жыл бұрын
@@danielkim7790 herbie did play with both Coltrane and miles, if I can recall correctly they were all in the same band (l might be wrong, correct me if I am)
@danielkim7790
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidadu8559 You are wrong. As I literally just said, their time in Davis's band never overlapped. Coltrane left Davis's group for the last time in 1960 and Herbie didn't begin playing with Davis until 63 when he was only seventeen. Feel free to google it if you don't believe me
@aholesubs1557
4 жыл бұрын
he actually said "play some better notes"
@XYBand
4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@georgesoden
4 жыл бұрын
No he actually said “don’t play the bottom notes”. Like don’t play the root etc
@4EverLearning757
4 жыл бұрын
aholesubs 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@DavideDondiMusic
4 жыл бұрын
@@georgesoden yes, let's leave them to the bass player, once and for all :)
@monsieurPessoa
4 жыл бұрын
Cant stop laughing :)
@jongilbertson2106
3 жыл бұрын
Not playing the butter notes gives you less of a margarine of error.
@JiveDadson
3 жыл бұрын
I hate you.
@Hi-bb5lo
3 жыл бұрын
🤭🤭🤭
@sexyhomeowner9345
3 жыл бұрын
@@JiveDadson I hate him too, and myself for finding his comment so funny, lol.
@Dan-sb2fb
3 жыл бұрын
boooo
@nononono12345
3 жыл бұрын
YES.
@EmeraldMinotaur
5 жыл бұрын
You will never reach *level 6 ghost pepper jazz harmony* with butter notes
@Piotrek_Sanejko
5 жыл бұрын
Just watched adam neely too hahahah
@jasonsteves734
5 жыл бұрын
how then?
@richardsidler
5 жыл бұрын
The Metalhead Otter to paraphrase: “if Miles were alive this would kill him!”
@mikea6710
4 жыл бұрын
Butter notes are a sign of a weak man
@khdroid123
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@lennyjay8390
3 жыл бұрын
_"What does that mean, don't play the butter-notes?"_ *Introspective piano music starts*
@JunkBondTrader
2 жыл бұрын
full of butter notes I might add
@jonbohlen5624
3 жыл бұрын
Too be fair, Mile’s probably didn’t even know what he meant.
@Sobchak2
3 жыл бұрын
He did actually. Years later it turned out he just said _don't play the bottom notes_
@goodcoffeehelps
3 жыл бұрын
Without that advice, Herbie’s career would have been toast.
@finntastiq1524
3 жыл бұрын
Without the butter notes, he went on to jam with the world.
@segmentsAndCurves
3 жыл бұрын
Okay, this is getting a little bit dairy.
@noahjames9457
2 жыл бұрын
You could say he was butter off with that advice!
@horrortackleharry
3 жыл бұрын
Miles was actually trying to shake Herbie out of his depression: "Don't play the butt-hurt notes..."
@Mr-ep2qi
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@simonduring-nicholson7228
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@johnhenningfield4360
3 жыл бұрын
that's a good one LOL
@johnaina8649
2 жыл бұрын
HA HA HA!!
@ChaunceyGardener
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe Miles said "play gluten-free notes" he was always ahead of his time.
@ripztubig4457
4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@benjaminwilkin2960
3 жыл бұрын
Butter is not glutenous
@espr7564
3 жыл бұрын
Ahead of his time? No he wasn't he was just fully overrated.
@benjaminwilkin2960
3 жыл бұрын
@@espr7564 you try doing something with your life
@ripztubig4457
3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminwilkin2960 🤣🤣🤣
@ryharuto
3 жыл бұрын
Don’t play the “BOTTOM NOTES”. That’s why we have a Bass Player in the band to do that. Herbie misinterpreted the obvious but he took the scenic route to eventually do what Miles advised him of.
@vova47
9 ай бұрын
That sounds more logical, though playing bottom notes now and again reinforces harmony.
@aerchys4779
9 ай бұрын
@@vova47But it provides stability to chords, makes them feel fuller and more stable. But the instability is good in jazz because it gives you more places to go after a chord without it feeling like a big change on ideas. At least that’s what I think about it
@janetownley
2 ай бұрын
But “bottom” sounds nothing like “butter”. Nice creative imagination though 😊
@peterkossits4794
4 жыл бұрын
"Leave the 5th and the 9th to the blowers" is the way I got that same lesson.
@JoseGarcia-yh4tu
4 жыл бұрын
why the 9th?
@peterkossits4794
4 жыл бұрын
@@JoseGarcia-yh4tu Because on dominant chords, the 5th and the 9th can both be flatted OR sharped and it still sounds good. Blowers love to mess with those two notes. But if someone else is playing the straight 5th or 9th at the same time, it can sound really horrible.
@DanielKodiak
4 жыл бұрын
Blowers? Winds?
@peterkossits4794
4 жыл бұрын
@@DanielKodiak "blowers" = "improvisors/guy taking the solo"
@starfishsystems
4 жыл бұрын
@@JoseGarcia-yh4tu The 9th is the fifth of the fifth, so not only does it add something fat and sweet to the root, it anricipates a modulation through fifths should things move in that direction. Now, I LOVE it. But I'm an amateur. I get to love the simple and easy stuff, and my friends are like, wow man you can totally improvise! No I can't. I've got a few simple tricks is all. Imagine skydiving without that parachute. You've got to go to the next level, invent the answer to whatever is playing out here and now. Musicians won't actually DIE if they fail to invent a fresh answer, but it's not a good night. So that's why the real musicians won't settle for the butter notes. I totally will. I'm just not in that class.
@IRACEMABABU
3 жыл бұрын
It's the same thing as Louis Armstrong once said : "i don't play all the notes of a melody, just the best ones". In teresting that this concept comes from two trumpet players....
@spacealienjesus709
4 жыл бұрын
These men are legends..
@paulprice6330
4 жыл бұрын
Herbie asks Miles again about it. Miles: " I was high son"
@davidwhite2949
4 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how Miles changed all the lives he touched
@jazzygiraffe8589
4 жыл бұрын
Probably Miles ment ''bottom notes'' as in ''use Bill Evans' rootless voicings, don't use the fifth and root, use more tensions'' . Very ironic if you look at Herbie Hancock's story from that point of view...
@AntwhaleNearfar
4 жыл бұрын
Paul Legende No. Butter notes is a jazz term meaning the third and root of a chord, as they obviously indicate what type of chord it is.
@jazzygiraffe8589
4 жыл бұрын
Y.T. Sobriquet your argument makes no sense because the word butter note was only used to describe the third and seventh of the chord after Herbie Hancocks story.
@AntwhaleNearfar
4 жыл бұрын
Paul Legende Ridiculous. They said that long before his story. Wow how clueless can you get. “Don’t play the bottom notes”. Ha! Yeah sure, that’s what Miles said.
@AntwhaleNearfar
4 жыл бұрын
Paul Legende Herbie thought he said butter but he actually said bottom. Absurd. I don’t give a shit how raspy and whispery Miles’ voice was, Herbie Hancock can hear the difference between a Dsus4sus2 chord and an Amin7 chord without the root based solely on the context of the notes around it and you think he couldn’t hear the difference between the word butter and bottom spoken directly into his ear? Foh.
@AntwhaleNearfar
4 жыл бұрын
TacoTacoTacoTaco You must not be black. That all “makes sense” but butter is a black slang term, meaning smooth or The Shit (“Damn that ride is straight butter”). Miles wouldn’t use some corny and obvious term like bottom notes...he said butter meaning the chord’s “sweet spots”...i.e. the notes that clearly define its tonality. Smh.
@guitarz99
3 жыл бұрын
imagine being a super talent having mastered your instrument and being in a rut and music is your life, miles was a genius
@annsophiefans1472
5 жыл бұрын
DON'T PLAY THE BUTTER NOTES
@wangson
2 ай бұрын
Thank goodness that we still have this absolute brilliant musician amongst us. What a talent!!
@Meshuggapeth
3 жыл бұрын
And the whole time, Miles actually said don’t play the bottom notes. Thank you for top notch piano music based on a mishearing
@greatmomentsofopera7170
3 жыл бұрын
Miles Davis was almost certainly whispering “don’t play the bottom notes”
@Muldoon111
7 күн бұрын
Miles: “I don’t want you to spread what I’m about to tell you “
@lovettboston
4 жыл бұрын
Like when Monk would say, "Don't play the bullshit notes." It's pretty much the same as when a classical composer does "note spinning." In basketball, there was a play-by-play announcer who used the term "fiddlin'-and-diddlin.'" Just as there are intervals when you can have have great music without sound, there others when you can have sound without music--and that's even without cacophany.
@adamcolbertmusic
Жыл бұрын
Not playing the butter notes allowed him to have a margarine of error
@yukiko_akiyama
3 жыл бұрын
'Don't play the butter notes' Gonna keep this in mind forever.
@jefflovelady4416
4 жыл бұрын
That quote belongs on a poster.
@audieconrad8995
4 жыл бұрын
To me it is if it is the second coming...
@gopherstate777
3 жыл бұрын
People applauded the search and the honest attempt at expression and the art fullness.
@derrickwest2576
4 жыл бұрын
3rds and 7ths used in 🎹 piano butter notes .
@davidreinhard6037
3 жыл бұрын
I literally thought this was going to turn out as having been Herbie just mishearing Miles having said "don't play the BOTTOM notes". Like maybe he was inhabiting too much of the lower register during his solos, thereby muddying it out, and he just wanted him to play higher so he'd be more in the lead when he solod.
@pillslifestylereviews6714
4 жыл бұрын
I think this is also why Tommy Wiseau's The Room works. A lot of the scenes are missing the "Butter Notes" and therefore shocks you, but in a good way :)
@starchiiiiild
4 жыл бұрын
lol Eric Andre show too
@MechanicalRabbits
4 жыл бұрын
The Room "works" because it's so fucking bad its laughable. I don't think the analogy applies when comparing it to Herbie's playing
@KevCo174
3 жыл бұрын
His approach to playing is so sophisticated. I think of this often when I read some comment (and man are there a ton of them) on video of a song by The Who or the Rolling Stones saying "This is *real* music! Not like what the kids listen to today!" And all I'm thinking is "Man, that's three major chords in 4/4 time for three minutes. Have you ever heard jazz? Those cats would laugh at you calling that the 'real' music." Don't get me wrong. Rock music is my favorite kind of music, and I love the Stones and the Who and the whole roster. But it's so funny to think that millions of people think "Satisfaction" is as high as music can climb.
@lukmigindnuforhelved
Жыл бұрын
Rock: Playing three chords in front of thousands of ppl. Jazz: The opposite ;)
@cosmojairzinho14
3 ай бұрын
About the who...I have to disagree..pete townshend has some pretty tasteful things in his guitar chords..
@michaelgreen5206
4 жыл бұрын
Herbie is a virtuoso and so was Miles. Love their music!!!
@johnnyv1982
3 жыл бұрын
Miles Davis watching this documentary, thinks to himself “ no no noooo I said hey herbie... you play “BETTER THAN MOST “
@AnthonyElsetinow
4 жыл бұрын
Actually, it came out later in an interview with Herbie, he said “dont play the BOTTOM notes”
@jikamos
4 жыл бұрын
Miles autobiographies reads FYI that Miles as young child in his way to school witnessed lynchings in his home town of East St Louis. I hope pple know how such negativity can affect a young child and I hope pple will try reading about one of the most documented musicians in the World. Blessings
@rontomkins6727
3 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, the ol' "I can't Believe it's not Butter" method of Jazz theory explanation.
@douglaspouch5313
3 жыл бұрын
Miles had just seen Last Tango In Paris.
@randyjohnson8366
3 жыл бұрын
Miles was amazing.
@shlmel
3 жыл бұрын
"thanks Miles"
@marcelobecerra5083
9 ай бұрын
Uno de los grandes pianistas y músicos de su generación 🎹👏
@mackjigger6030
2 ай бұрын
Miles was a Taoist Master posing as a trumpet player
@druirving9142
3 жыл бұрын
“Spread the marmalade thinly”...go and figure that one out.
@hen263
3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Herbie is a vampire. He never ages.
@Kitties_are_pretty
4 жыл бұрын
"You have to listen to the notes he's not playing."
@Hithere-ek4qt
3 жыл бұрын
Gag - another bullshit comment
@AlexzygmuntH
3 жыл бұрын
Clever. There is power in minimalism
@docfaceful
3 жыл бұрын
Miles also told him"don't try to fatten up with whaling blubber runs...one of the best compliments miles said years later to hancock was "your not getting any blubber!"
@dasse1588
5 ай бұрын
Actually what he said was don't play with my butter knots from Pizza Hut
@fredsavage4925
3 жыл бұрын
it was probably code for "get me better junk, piano man."
@cchase92
3 жыл бұрын
Miles had kicked H way before this time period
@sclogse1
3 жыл бұрын
In film terms, I equate this with not showing someone crying. That's the audience's role. Remember the audience. They're participating. Slang is the short cut to your brain. Don't answer the question, say something, either vocally or by a look that suggests the answer. And keep practicing. When a song writer writes a melodic line, he ain't done. He still has to write the complementary line, and still take it to the bridge. Think like they do. Not endless noodling, but a direction. Think Cannonball.
@traildoggy
3 жыл бұрын
Miles had recently switched to margarine.
@bh8365
3 жыл бұрын
Some very humorous and insightful comments here. There's another short KZitem clip that shows Miles glaring at Herbie. Those comments are also entertaining.
@c.thompson6638
3 жыл бұрын
My jazz buddy stopped playing the butter notes. He's on a health kick and now playing margarine notes. I told him he should play I Can't Believe It's Not Butter to fake everyone out.
@chazzthepukeko5057
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@rykson161
3 жыл бұрын
Miles simply asked him to change ! It’s that simple ! Sometimes we need a little kick in the ass ,
@supremelc3667
4 жыл бұрын
Play the margarine ones!
@Blueaspen391
4 жыл бұрын
1 why didn't he ask Miles what that phrase meant? 2 if he asked, why didn't M.Davis answer?
@herrbonk3635
4 жыл бұрын
Because Miles was an ass, probably.
@robertrutigliano9180
4 жыл бұрын
1) Because it’s Miles 2) Because it’s Miles
@Blueaspen391
4 жыл бұрын
@@robertrutigliano9180 so Hancock was afraid? Great.
@Diogolindir
4 жыл бұрын
I see it as Miles just came by, dropped the quote and left to have a smoke
@Bruce.-Wayne
4 жыл бұрын
If you have to ask miles why?, then you're not worthy to play in his band....
@DJFLDJFL
3 жыл бұрын
This is really pissing me off. I've been incredibly frustrated since I watched this video. I believe my playing may be 40% butter notes. I have no idea how to stop without spending more time than I have. But all I can hear now is butter notes. 35 years I haven't really cared all that much...now it's all I hear. Thanks Herbie!
@batmandeltaforce
3 жыл бұрын
Theory... The Minor Pentatonic Scale leaves 2 notes out of the Major Scale. "That" is what makes it work with other "Modes" so well. I "think" maybe he may have been talking about those. Otherwise you have to be very careful where and how you use them to stay "Modally" correct. Sometimes you can include them and sometimes not, depending on the tune. One example of that is the song "Little Wing" - Jimi Hendrix. If you include the "Butter Notes", you MUST change "Modes" with the chord changes and if you don't it sounds funny. Maybe?
@jimmykuf
3 жыл бұрын
Miles said "Don't play the bottom notes", leave the root to the bass player
@ot4kon
3 жыл бұрын
Play the "I can't believe is not butter" notes
@nunchuk5doe553
3 жыл бұрын
i need to vent because i grew up in the 70s and 80s when a lot of interracial love was going on.it left me angre
@colindowns6580
3 жыл бұрын
Don’t play the bottom notes!
@PinacoladaMatthew
10 ай бұрын
the 3rds.....too easy.... too rich...too good lol, in order words, too "butter" XD
@dard4642
3 жыл бұрын
They cut this short. I've heard the rest of this story and, like many of the jokes here in the comment section, that isn't actually what Miles said. Miles leaned over just before Herbie's solo and whispered "Don't play the bottom notes." He learned that later that night but the revelation was already there and Hancock attributes the way he plays now to that misunderstanding.
@mauaraya141
3 жыл бұрын
Cool
@loxermp3423
3 жыл бұрын
Is there a recording of the performance he's talking about?
@NahmakantaCamps
3 жыл бұрын
don't play what you think they want to hear
@hansleber6090
4 жыл бұрын
I think they where high as fuck miles was hungry and said make me a butter toast and herbie unterstood dont play thr butter notes
@ypolchenko-freejazz-guitar
3 жыл бұрын
.. butter goes to the trumpet, but bread to the piano.
@RZ-1JZ
3 жыл бұрын
Bill burr sent me here
@jayweh
3 жыл бұрын
I wish I had the musical understanding to get what hancock meant re the notes he left out.
@LeonardEisen
4 жыл бұрын
didn’t herbie or miles later say that he probably had said “don’t play the bottom notes” but herbie misheard it?
@colinprincipe6293
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. The interesting thing is that mis-hearing was exactly what Herbie needed to hear at that point.
@253goon
2 ай бұрын
Don’t play the butter notes don’t play the easy notes
@C.Hawkshaw
3 жыл бұрын
nice!
@123agidee_2
3 жыл бұрын
I imagine he probably said “don’t play the bottom notes”
@o.b.v.i.u.s
3 жыл бұрын
except Herbie completely mistook Miles' intent; see, the USDA grades butter either AA, A, or B... Miles was telling Herbie not to play "A" or "B" in any chord... the "butter notes"...
@Adrian_Estando
3 жыл бұрын
That interviewer is looking at Herbie with bedroom eyes.
@petervad
3 жыл бұрын
wow.
@JC-fj7oo
3 жыл бұрын
I still say it's more likely that he meant it not as any literal notes to be interpreted, but as a sort of nonsense advice to get herbie to look for an answer himself. If Miles had said "thin it out a bit" or something that a musician might understand, I would agree. But nobody ever said butter notes. Miles never said butter notes to other people. This technique is used a lot by artists in all genres. When you hear someone say "it needs more POW" Right? what the hell does that mean? It means "you're the professional, go figure out how to make it better". If you told 10 musicians to drop the" butter notes" you would get 10 different interpretations depending on what that artist discovered about themself when they reflected on their own playing.
@ERMAV
3 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t he just ask him what he meant by butter notes....
@MarkPeotter
4 жыл бұрын
OK, Herbie, I figured it out! Cmaj. Butter notes = C, E, G. Mayonnaise notes = A, B, D. Ketchup notes = Bb, Eb. Mustard notes = Db, Gb, Ab.
@erniebuchinski3614
4 жыл бұрын
So I guess that F is the horseradish? No, wait - it's the peanut butter!
@MarkPeotter
4 жыл бұрын
@@erniebuchinski3614 That's great! Yeah, I forgot F. I'd say Ketchup. But I like your ideas!
@paxwallacejazz
4 жыл бұрын
Of course no one got the call from Miles unless they were truly extrodinary.
@Fnidner
3 жыл бұрын
wait... My thumbnail says this video is 21:50 long. but its only a minute. Anyone else seeing this??
@davidgn40
3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@Comrade.Question
Жыл бұрын
Still an issue lol
@kingbuffbeats
3 жыл бұрын
Butter dog
@mtrsoftwareservices
4 жыл бұрын
Miles actually said don't play the butt head notes.
@erniebuchinski3614
4 жыл бұрын
But what about the Beavis notes, Miles?
@johnprice3341
3 жыл бұрын
I thought butter meant smooth, so play some less expected notes to add some tension...?
@javierayala1931
4 жыл бұрын
Can somebody reveal this to me? What are the butter notes?
@PianoStudioNancy
6 ай бұрын
I thinks Miles said "bottom notes" and no "butter notes", which has absolutely no meaning. Don't play voicings with roots, but open voicings...
@hamiltonburger4574
3 жыл бұрын
This philosophy can also be applied to guitar.
@audieconrad8995
4 жыл бұрын
This is a lesson in life - dont play the obvious...
@Hithere-ek4qt
3 жыл бұрын
Here's another lesson - don't comment on the obvious.
@audieconrad8995
3 жыл бұрын
@@Hithere-ek4qt ok wise-ass so why did you?
@trjb1767
3 жыл бұрын
zappa Zen guide
@KB-uv7wj
3 жыл бұрын
No disrespect to Mr Hancock, but I don't think he would have understood no matter how much he tried. It's something to do with confliction and resonance of Miles' woodwind instrument.
@gj8683
4 жыл бұрын
Lipids, be gone!
@rohnanjm
5 жыл бұрын
2345312
@ingwerschorle_
4 жыл бұрын
EFGAFDE
@zerronyx1362
4 жыл бұрын
I thought this was hentai, im fucked
@pepeindiopole4969
4 жыл бұрын
@@zerronyx1362 Why? I have a mess with the references... 😅
@hole1274
4 жыл бұрын
Pepe Indiopole The link to specific hentais will have a unique number at the end on a lot of sites
@pepeindiopole4969
4 жыл бұрын
@@hole1274 Ok, thanks.
@billyparham630
3 жыл бұрын
i always thought that butter notes were the mellifulous notes, not excessive notes
@ARTPAINTING101
3 жыл бұрын
While many here seem to think he said bottom notes which I highly doubt as I think Herbie is not hard of hearing I agree with you. Leave out the sweet notes that are not necessary, go outside the typically chord or easy melody line. It was also a "Zen" way to describe the feeling he was looking for, Miles a genius as is Herbie, was showing the young man the path.
@jameswagesi1026
3 жыл бұрын
Lol....29 dislikes were just looking for anything to hate. They're probably better than Miles and Herbie as musicians.
@kraka2oanIner
4 жыл бұрын
"Don't play the BOTTOM notes" is my best guess, probably because the solo would get caught in the mud of the bass/lower mid-range. Play the UPPER notes, then you can extend better and be more expansive with the melody or solo. That's MY interpretation, for what it's worth.
@erniebuchinski3614
4 жыл бұрын
"Don't play the butter notes." As opposed to Marlon Brando's line in "The Last Tango in Paris", "Go get the butter . . ."
@G11713
3 жыл бұрын
"Don't play the butter notes." ...Oh! Don't make things easy to understand... make them work for it... just like that advice!? :)
@maxdurk4624
3 жыл бұрын
Thought that was Don Cheedle for a hot minute lmao
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