Bots play a big part in the internet. The algorithm is a bot. The biggest demand right now for Major Companies is coders & developers who can create bots for faster transactions and data processing. Spotify Owner Daniel Elks was a coder/hacker. All music artist who push their music online will be streamed by a bot or bots through out their music career.
@zekiel2574
Жыл бұрын
I think this is artificially raising the bar and in the long run will make it harder for artists with no industry connections to start from the ground
@wildflute
Жыл бұрын
It’s always been that way since the beginning of the music industry, back before radio was invented, back before Bach was teaching to feed his dozens of children.
@ocleadinlady
Жыл бұрын
The MOST Important thing is for ALL YOUR “STUFF” TO MATCH!!! Example: If you have 1M+ followers you should have sold out shows ,merch sales, comments, views , likes be trending etc (bots or not)
@sethbrolsma516
Жыл бұрын
For me, I just think the bot situation allows artists to avoid putting in the ground-level work to build a fan base.
@kombe971
Жыл бұрын
Not really it’s only a small part of the process. Live shows, acoustic versions etc
@phobsdsr4326
Жыл бұрын
It’s cheating themselves. If they’re not real fans, you still need to build the base one way or another otherwise you will ultimately flop with good looking fake numbers.
@lawrencejohnson743
Жыл бұрын
Obviously. It’s a cheat code.
@Frapucheno
Жыл бұрын
Real fans come with money And we don’t have capital So we have to take our streams get our plaques and sit the fuck down
@bars420reviews2
8 ай бұрын
Not a cheat code unless you gonna bot every gwad damn song
@eddieaugustin3811
Жыл бұрын
Simple…. Most rappers spend their career tell us we broke and they can steal our girl…. So obviously… we finally be pocket watching for some bs to flip it in they faces. 😂😂😂😂
@BrandmanNetwork
Жыл бұрын
That’s petty af but hilarious 😆
@justinhenryrebel
Жыл бұрын
😂 that’s funny as hell
@buzzefx1
Жыл бұрын
2:17 “This is great bro” Naww fr 😂🤦🏽♂️🔥
@BrandmanNetwork
Жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@AtibaVV
Жыл бұрын
70% of mainstream artist have fake streams
@LuwopLLC
Жыл бұрын
Try 100%. There are artists who willingly participate in fake streams and the ones who don’t have a clue it’s happening. There’s no avoiding it
@Frapucheno
Жыл бұрын
99% The 1% only got on because they well connected example Every odd future artist that’s connected to the label that you probably haven’t even heard of everytime they drop their songs get added to the playlist and they get millions and hundreds of thousands of streams just for being apart of the editorial and algorithmic Unfair as fuck ain’t it ?
@lvxxviii
Жыл бұрын
I like how you guys explained this.
@urbanpersevere8849
Жыл бұрын
Bots are a necessary evil. Sometimes if the social media companies would show your Contant to the people that follow you, there would really be no need for bots, but the social media companies created this culture.
@M_Archive
Жыл бұрын
I don't think social media hiding content correlates that much to the need for bots
@jeremiahsymonette4781
Жыл бұрын
@@M_Archive it actually does
@MusicWorld1019
Жыл бұрын
It does.
@forvibersonly
Жыл бұрын
@@chiefblankothat hood content is bs. I pay for ads but a girl with ass shows first and she didnt pay a dime. Foh
@VivienneShakur
Жыл бұрын
Nope, like fb algorithms have been altered many times to shrink the outreach of posts so to make you buy ads. But streaming bots are important to give you the appearance of demand aka success. No demand - no success. No budgets.
@WynterBeats
Жыл бұрын
Bots work very well when you know how to use them right and a lot of artist don’t.
@TherealSEPT6IX
Жыл бұрын
I fell for the banana in the tail pipe with some promo people and I realized they was you using bots and I seen my streams fall and some followers . It’s not worth it but you guys have a very valid point . I learned how to do my own google ads and now I’m learning digital marketing but I still need help . That’s when you guys come in . Y’all are certified
@slopaxo
Жыл бұрын
My new song KIMIYA got 150,000 views - I have no idea what happened but I didn’t use any bots and got added to a shit ton of playlists - I know all about the bots tho and have done stuff like that maybe long ago but I think you can really grow organically - I also have a video on bots called Dark Truth about Spotify. For the labels it’s like a infinite money loophole lol literally creating currency hah - good video boys
@coldhardtruth333
Жыл бұрын
What’s your Instagram?
@faustostar9627
Жыл бұрын
Yeah right niggah lol
@slopaxo
Жыл бұрын
@@faustostar9627 it tru lol
@Dot.Com..
Жыл бұрын
Shout out to the jump in quality… the quality of information has always been there but props y’all thanks for the jewelry
@RAREGUALLA
Жыл бұрын
Yooooooo Kohrey said “he get six smiley faces in a row “😂 toooo funnnyyy
@BryanBarcelo
Жыл бұрын
Organic, keep it real, keep it 100, authentic, truthful and honest. For whatever reason, artists who use bots are none of these things, they are liars, deceivers, cheaters, fake.
@JBadge
Жыл бұрын
Its not the artists it's the labels
@kombe971
Жыл бұрын
Everyone sues bots because it’s some of the playlists
@urasenseii
Жыл бұрын
@@JBadge it is the artist because they know it's bots
@samuraiblack
Жыл бұрын
Kohrey showed his experience and depth in the marketing game fr with the blackhat terminology. Anyone watching, understand these fellas know exactly what they're talking about. The artist that started getting delusional on his bot streams is the perfect example of someone telling a lie so many times they believe it themselves.
@kohrey
Жыл бұрын
✊🏾✊🏾
@MBeyeline
Жыл бұрын
Justin Bieber did show his fans how to stream his music indefinitely on mute in the background to help him out 😁
@naijeemaserati
Жыл бұрын
How , where ?
@MBeyeline
Жыл бұрын
@@naijeemaserati look up "Justin Bieber asked fans to stream"
@baddworld
Жыл бұрын
So paying for bots works but they say it doesn’t cause they don’t want YOUUUU to do it
@binaryaftershock
5 ай бұрын
basicallly!!
@MarvillousBeats
Жыл бұрын
Nah this headline needs explanation 🤣 I'm watching this later
@princeamu
Жыл бұрын
Lol shit I’ll use bots too. I think it’s unfair for big labels to use it and not get penalized but independent artists getting penalized for it.
@UziBlancoOfficial
Жыл бұрын
Unfair as fuk bro
@LaynoProd
Жыл бұрын
this was a very important episode for this point in my career 🙏🏽💎🤯 thank you Brandman Network
@StaringAtAScreen
Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Good stuff guys. 🔥🔥🔥
@slopaxo
Жыл бұрын
Most artist would get taken down for running bots. The record labels just have leverage because artists like Uzi already getting 5 million organic streams so they have more pull w bots
@kohrey
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@Frapucheno
Жыл бұрын
Exactly that I’m able to not because I have an organic fanbase that makes it harder for AI to catch me do to the fact that I have actual bodies and accounts listening
@Frapucheno
Жыл бұрын
Able to bot*
@meek3266
Жыл бұрын
This pod defs opened my mind to this concept for sure and I appreciate y'all for the game! You just gotta make sure to follow up with all that hype lol
@VEJJIETALES
Жыл бұрын
Ion like the bot thing :/ but I do understand it from every perspective you explained so thank you for going into depth.
@mtdubdachamp6917
Жыл бұрын
Bruh I never even thought about it like this! Damn 💯💯💯
@thundermaier
11 ай бұрын
no one should be using bots. It only hurts true art and music in the long term. It is short term gain while sacrificing long term art.
@richardschumacher6014
Жыл бұрын
Great video, I'll stay tuned in!
@willclark1841
Жыл бұрын
It’s getting dirty now marketing companies going to against marketing companies Telling , other companies because they lost the contract to that other company. Hey the music industry is what you make it. Will you market it for Listen to those that have great advice, but in the end, it’s your choice.
@OfficialDay72300
Жыл бұрын
This is great 🔥
@baigmusic
Жыл бұрын
Interesting convo, glad to hear your perspective and views. I see that bots do have a purpose, but you shouldn't solely rely on them. It hurts artists with like 20K-40K followers on da gram but barely get 100 views or likes on a post lol. Helloyassine did a good job exposing 6lack as an industry plant in his video about Billie Eilish..
@BrandmanNetwork
Жыл бұрын
I can't listen to all of these industry plant accusations. I watched him go up from ground zero. I met him in person and watched him 2-3 years before he popped. To be clear, I'm in no way friends with him. I don't know him personally. I just instantly became a fan when I saw his live performance in a room of probably 50 people max...Russ also performed at that series which was personally thrown by some guys I went to school with while we were still in school. I haven't watched the video, but in general, I'm fine with people using "Industry Plant" as clickbait, but any time someone is trying to "prove" an artist is an industry plant either (1) They don't understand music marketing (2) They are pandering to consumers/fans because it gets views, similar to the KZitem channels dedicated to "calling out scams" because it get views, not to actually inform - because there's no responsibility to be right if you don't actually work in the industry. It's easy to form a narrative that someone is a plant, because most people don't see an artist's journey and MOST of the industry doesn't want you to see an artist's journey. People forget, the idea of mystique means not telling you everything. Many of these artists journey's were hard and boring. It's more compelling to allow an industry plant narrative than the reality - until they do a full documentary. That's part of why you don't see many artists fight the idea. Artists who actually want to be a professional/successful don't have the luxury of looking at the industry from the perspective of a consumer.
@baigmusic
Жыл бұрын
@@BrandmanNetwork Here's the video: kzitem.info/news/bejne/k4Jj1YKHkKpla3Y , at 1:17:47 he starts his detailed explanation about 6lack n how he got a huge push from Apple. Yassine doesn't give his own opinion and he mostly quotes industry people from articles. I get your point, its easy to label someone as a plant if you don't see their come up. But Yassine does make some good points about the speed at which he became famous that are hard to deny. And yes, most music consumers are really stupid. They think it's all a reality tv talent show haha
@youngtoussaint928
Жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work Good Brothers! Shout out to my fellow artists ya'll keep grinding as well!
@phobsdsr4326
Жыл бұрын
Big up bro 😎🙌
@phantmphuego
Жыл бұрын
facts bro!!!!
@ChillyBeaman
Жыл бұрын
Hip hop fans desire honesty,
@BrandmanNetwork
Жыл бұрын
It's a losing game to give them 100% honesty because everyone perceives honesty differently. This is the entertainment industry. Many of the best movies are described as "realistic", but if they were truly real, they'd be boring. The most an entertainer can do is make the fans FEEL like they're honest. When people think an artist is "real" or "honest' it just means that the artist is conveying an image that the fan "agrees" with. They never ACTUALLY know the truth and it's not an artists job to give a 100% definitive truth.
@ChillyBeaman
Жыл бұрын
@@BrandmanNetwork im with you, its the same as advertising. As long as the image/product/message 'feels' authentic... we soak it up.... In turn we get the current music industry/Social media / Internet... The real ones look fake/corny and the fake ones look 'real' ... There are thousands of 'verified' accounts that scammed their way to the top with fake followers, coaching programs created by people who never achieved wat they are coaching people to achieve.. Marketing is VICIOUS!!!
@LittleMissSunshine721
Жыл бұрын
The game is filled with smoke and mirrors. The new bot trend reminds me of payola back in the day. Songs would play a hundred times a day on the radio! 🙃
@gravediggass
Жыл бұрын
Ok?
@ebwmusicproduction
Жыл бұрын
You have a typo in your description. "Want to marker your music...." Also thanks for the great info.
@jahosssauceboss777
Жыл бұрын
They be botin me with these fake Dj accounts 😒
@jameswhitaker4357
Жыл бұрын
How do you feel about getting music video numbers up thru ads? Even disregarding watch hours like you’ve mentioned before
@kohrey
Жыл бұрын
Hell yea do it. Just make sure the views are from places you actually want to build in
@TempleOfKnife
Жыл бұрын
have you ever seen an ad on youtube and thought "I like the person that put this ad in front of my face?"
@Herewaiting
Жыл бұрын
@@TempleOfKnife hell yeah a few
@jameswhitaker4357
Жыл бұрын
@@TempleOfKnife ofc, but I’ve clicked ads before too. Ur just not my target audience then. Gotta optimize your funnel to get in front of potential people that would fw your campaign. Doesn’t always happen the first ad campaign, especially if ur a new artist trying to find your target demo just like kohrey said. It’s about the quality of that viewer vs the amount, since you want to build customer lifetime value
@BassGodPantheon
Жыл бұрын
Numbers begets numbers, gotta start somewhere. Then if the artist has consistent 🔥 the numbers will take care of themselves.
@princeamu
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@cardpuller17
Жыл бұрын
@@princeamu which proves they also buy a lot of the first week records snd have been for some time.
@TwirlTheWorld813
Жыл бұрын
Where to get the bot skip all that ! 👀
@ikonicmediagroup7039
Жыл бұрын
I feel in this Era all labels and artist will use bots to build up there views for marketing purposes.Its a catch 22 thing crazy but it's really tricky 😳
@tomcbeatz
Жыл бұрын
Talking about bots is informative but it's only half the story. What needs to be discussed is how to find and verify the reliability of bot services that provide more streaming payouts than the cost of the service.
@crocodiledaz
11 ай бұрын
Ja is funny as hell lol 'this is great bro' 🤦🏿♂️😂
@Bigchoppa_223
Жыл бұрын
Drake use bots too
@EveningShowWithJeremiah
Жыл бұрын
Y’all just think everybody faking. Different between being bitter and hating
@Bigchoppa_223
Жыл бұрын
@@EveningShowWithJeremiah you can’t hate on the truth
@EveningShowWithJeremiah
Жыл бұрын
@@Bigchoppa_223 but I can hate on bitter
@EveningShowWithJeremiah
Жыл бұрын
@@Bigchoppa_223 hating on drake ain’t gone make you the next one
@Bigchoppa_223
Жыл бұрын
@@EveningShowWithJeremiah you just admitted you a hater🤷🏾♂️
@hamzz6824
Жыл бұрын
15:50 it’s ironic that y’all say fans value authenticity and condemn faking streams but back when meek mill expose drake for having ghost writers people didn’t really care 🤷🏽♂️
@deszi6936
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion the music industry has always fake and I think people truly don’t care bcuz it comes down to the connection that these artists make with their fans .
@forvibersonly
Жыл бұрын
Just subscribed fam
@cubandvenci
Ай бұрын
Hip hop fans always got something to say about everything.
@mortasayvision
11 ай бұрын
I love y'alls realness.
@BBoldGaming
Жыл бұрын
Every artist does this bro on major labels. One of the marketers assigned on task is on fiver... 5k gets you millions Zero engagement
@815TVMG
Жыл бұрын
Y’all don’t think the labels tryna get a return with the streams?
@camronstillgess
Жыл бұрын
Yea it would b like printing money😂 but them streamin services greedy as well so im sure they have shii in place where u cant jus get paid off bots🤷🏽♂️
@Ondeckboy
Жыл бұрын
They just waste your money, nobody streamed me organically afterwards 💔
@quedaking1252
Жыл бұрын
Cardi B too 😩😩
@Dswade808
Жыл бұрын
crucial piece of info
@sircartier7
Жыл бұрын
What would the job title would i look for when applying to these marketing firms? Botfarms seems like a fun rabbit hole combining my passion and formal education into one.
@drygordspellweaver8761
Жыл бұрын
The value of a bot is not in automating streams. It’s in getting streams to appear human-like and to actually count and payout. I don’t know what your education is- perhaps computer science- but a cookie cutter piece of software won’t cut it. It takes many years of trial and error to get the insider secrets of an effective bot. It’s not just something you apply for at a ‘marketing firm’ or hop into as a fun side project.
@theremedy333
Жыл бұрын
My mentors☔️
@Sjskdkfkfkfkfkdkkdkdisu
Жыл бұрын
Even with bots, uzi is still a god
@RP2134
Жыл бұрын
Running ads is not “fraudulent “ lol name me ONE brand in the world that doesn’t run ads and put money into marketing? I’ll wait…… so it’s frowned upon when you are smaller and trying to build, but it’s cool for Nike to run ads? LMAOO makes noooo sense …hiphop gotta stop that ridiculous narrative
@BrandmanNetwork
Жыл бұрын
Seems you greatly misunderstood something. Unless you’re talking about what someone else in the comments said because we never said that
@LeekBITE
Жыл бұрын
soooo lemme ask this i’ve always wondered…. what would the conversation be if a scam rapper or a trap artist got caught botting they music
@BrandmanNetwork
Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by "scam rapper"?
@LeekBITE
Жыл бұрын
@@BrandmanNetwork i mean like the Bandman Kevo, Money Man, ShittyBoyz, SelfmadeKash type rappers…
@TherealSEPT6IX
Жыл бұрын
@@LeekBITE the artist you named are scam rappers?
@LeekBITE
Жыл бұрын
@@TherealSEPT6IX go look up what’s a scam rapper and i’m not jus specifically speaking about the ones i named Im speakin on all of the rappers who talk that type of shit. what would the conversation be if they got caught. BMK & Money Man used to be scammers before the rap shit and they rap about it the other ones rap faithfully about it.
@LeekBITE
Жыл бұрын
@@TherealSEPT6IX are they not?
@zee4798
10 ай бұрын
Bots are the reason the top ten is always rubbish every artist discovered using bots should be permanently banned . And utube creators promoting it should also be banned
@AcesizOfficial
Жыл бұрын
Dope
@tayprime59
10 ай бұрын
Wait Even When You Run Ads That’s Fake Views ? Because I Ran a Ad On KZitem Before & Spent 2000 To Have It Run For a Month
@deathroseforever
Жыл бұрын
How yawl think Lil Wayne sold that album? 🧐
@paulmatweyou6195
Жыл бұрын
Interesting information, but I couldnt seem to understand what exactly made him go to prison for 2 years...I know it has to do with 4 million dollars, but I didn't understand what made him get into legal trouble regarding that....
@Tjmont
10 ай бұрын
Anybody got actual examples of the bots they use?
@Mike-jg1im
Жыл бұрын
I don't do telegram app
@freestyletherapy
Жыл бұрын
NBA Young Boy...bots!
@allenkoe1
Жыл бұрын
Frfr !!! Big time bots
@FleXxTheFuture
9 ай бұрын
Not always true I have a huge Brazilian following on tik however use emojis because language barrier. Since your hating I might as well start
@614Q
Жыл бұрын
Never used bots 🤖 at least not initially
@Ponderous_Aurelius
Жыл бұрын
W vid.
@5ynkoh
Жыл бұрын
Bots and add ads to that 🔥🔥🔥 y’all don’t understand if you gonna use bots use a legit company if y’all find one don’t use these fivver ones lol and mix that up with ads 🔥🔥
@Dvrklvrdzmuseum555
Жыл бұрын
No bots
@SpiritLeadRecordz
Жыл бұрын
Wait until A.I starts dropping comments and emojis 😂 well never be able to tell. Bots getting smarter lol
@apollobreck
26 күн бұрын
I'm ONLY stripping to pay off my college tuition! MAAN! "I'm only botting till I get a real fanbase"
@Roses_R_redeR
Жыл бұрын
Electric music is missing the electronic rebirth of bluegrass Music 🪕🎻🎚🎹🎛 🥀🥀🥀🥀
@RubenMorenoMusik
Жыл бұрын
You’re both incorrect about a lot of it. I’m not understanding how you come to this conclusion. I’m an international roots artist … bots are everywhere and annoying us all lol I always have foreign comment because I perform internationally. And over positive comments are common from good people . I also have low stream numbers but I’m booked EVERY weekend. Hope y’all keep creating content … so much more to learn and teach.
@BrandmanNetwork
Жыл бұрын
None of what you said makes sense as an argument against what we've said. It seems you have zero understanding for anything we said. The most I can guess is a lack of understanding of the United States domestic climate when it comes to bot. 1. We have worked several international artists. We don't think all non-domestic comments are bots so if that's what you think, it's far off...maybe you don't understand why referenced foreign bots but this is from ACTUAL experience and knowing some of the companies that do their bots in a specific way. 2. What does having low streams and still booking shows have to do with this conversation at all? I know artists who get booked WITHOUT music on streaming platforms...that's also irrelevant to this conversation. If this is the first video you've seen of us, it'd explain a lot. Check out more video or research the artists we've worked with...there's nothing you said that we haven't talked about already and DONE for multiple artists.
@RubenMorenoMusik
Жыл бұрын
Please keep in mind that I'm a supporter not a troll Love what y'all are doing ... Your Conversation starts with bots and faking things 1:34 bot comments ,1:49 foreign comments , 2:10 overly optimistic = Fake engagement 4:35 reasons why it's negative to have bots 5:25 get creative ? Where did the boys go ? What's the positive? I comment because I experience it all , and I don't pay for fake views, streams , followers etc 7:30 you bring it back to the bots. Incrementally weaning off the bots ? Conclusion : don't waste money on bots and it could possibly effect your creativeness ? I'm a listener and I'm not the only listener that feels this way . If there's something the listener doesn't understand. Help us understand. This is why you have this channel correct ?? I only comment on what i hear y’all saying and we are all hearing the same thing.
@wildhorsemusic1111
Жыл бұрын
Random Question.... Do rappers like to work with keyboard players
@wildhorsemusic1111
Жыл бұрын
I'm looking to do some cross genre collabating
@Eddie_Sto
Жыл бұрын
Ghost fans
@alanmckee1553
Жыл бұрын
You Can use me as the bot farm case study
@adriandashmusic
Жыл бұрын
It should be banned 😂😂😂 they been faking views since 2014
@tordy4963
Жыл бұрын
this is cringe and sad. use bots because looking famous is soo important. Would love to see an artists you work with. Youll be like "well that artist i work with is a bot."
@BrandmanNetwork
Жыл бұрын
This comment is 30 minutes old and already hasn't aged well. Research before you say stuff like this.
@tordy4963
Жыл бұрын
Saying “something hasn’t aged well”, is implying that an event took place that disproves what’s being said. But of course you couldn’t possibly understand that.
@quedaking1252
Жыл бұрын
We know why they scrutinize us more. Stop it
@svngrhms2611
Жыл бұрын
Would yall be able to help me go from zero to seven if i gave you equity in the projects?
@LyteTheNomad
Жыл бұрын
Anybody kno how tah do it I’ma need u 😂😂😂😂
@definitiveus
10 ай бұрын
rap?! imagine being in dubstep mfers are poor i wish i could piss people off using bots in rap
@Dvrklvrdzmuseum555
Жыл бұрын
I think y’all would use bots
@nkrezz_
Жыл бұрын
I am a bot
@timothymcgimpsey2440
Жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Amazing work! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ (Bot like comment from real artist who has great content on his page)
@ChainHoops
Жыл бұрын
Industry is stealing content
@PureCoreTV
11 ай бұрын
;)
@malcdawgg
Жыл бұрын
How do I find you guys website? HELP
@bobgreen2570
Жыл бұрын
You need bots if you're trying to sell trash music.
@cecilanderson6903
Жыл бұрын
Question: how would people get paid monthly if distribution companies like tunecore and distrokid only pay quarterly Is there a work around?
@BobbyWashingtonvlog
10 ай бұрын
DistroKid pays monthly. Only the very first payment takes 2-3 months but after that first month it’s every month.
@tkolm08
Жыл бұрын
THE ROOT WORD OF BLACK IS NEGATIVE....ETYMOLOGY, B- LACK...VOID OF LIGHT OR LACK OF
@Airic
Жыл бұрын
8:25 "there's that switching cost" ... that'll go over most ppl's heads... multitasking is cool n all, but laser eyes is the key 💯
@joshuaBrooks.nicholas
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I never would use bots to stream music,and most promoters fake as hell.That’s why I never did business with them they make you look like your music doing numbers,but the real fans going to know it’s fake.
@dedasalmeida9047
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What If you're buying organic reach? With legit views and subscribers/followers count? I mean there are services that artists can use to market their songs to certain target audiences, I don't use bots, I use organic reach. For instance for a song that I use which was "Welcome to clapps", I bought the 2k - 5k views but it went over 6.4k views! Which was mind boggling plus I had 14 more subscribers on KZitem ... They probably aren't "real fans" but at least it's organic not fake
@rekoba
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Wow we've gotten to a point where we really consider it....
@Cutmasterjay2050
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I run ads I don't know what else to use any suggestions
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