I have Moment's Chipotle Banana. That was my introduction to a full rocker/reverse camber ski. Even with the larger tail rocker it still has really nice edge grip. It really feels like you get best of both worlds when skiing flat vs putting it on edge.
@merlinm69
4 ай бұрын
What is quite incredible with Heritagelabski and Marshall Olson (who is in a way - with Simen and other admirers on the tgr forum of lotus sanouk shapes and reverse cambers - my shape/design teacher) is the precision of the shape of the central reverse camber whatever the construction and type of core/wood species used. And that's quite phenomenal for a small production, it means a lot of know-how and anticipation of a major problem of reverse camber, which is the rendering of the mold with the core which will force in the opposite direction and lower /stretch the actual desired shape. A headache with also the different lengths and therefore thickness of cores. One solution to counter this mold rendering variable is to turn the core upside down, Blizzard's flip core. The curved part of the core (essentially 50cm below the bindings) better matches the inverted camber of the mold but here too the rendering is not exact So Bravo! And obviously congratulations for the dosage of the recipes, I like the a little volkl with the 4frnt spatulas, a little down too, and the fairly advanced assembly points without excess. I must say I have worked recently to make reverse cambers more versatile, comfortable and intuitive in grip by mixing them with mini cambers (a la Volkl Revol t 104 or blaze) but the beautiful maritime powder conditions of the south of France reminded me that only reverse camber resigned to these conditions. And not just any reverse camber, quite banana 🍌, a radius of 35 meters or less (which gives a height of 3.5mm over 50cm) is clearly more manageable than a sickkle or bmt, see the new 4frnt which have lost a lot in agility/fluidity for the “pedestal”🙈 of easy versatility. For me the limits of reverse camber are the on/off behavior in powder or soft snow where maneuverability only exists if you are well placed, slightly forward, you have to give a little energy to the ski and there it becomes magical. Otherwise, I have seen it with good skiers who were not used to wide skis, the ski accelerates too much and puts them on the defensive, gives them the impression of reduced maneuverability without rebound, without life of the ski and they miss the magic: the reverse camber guesses where your brain wants to go. And there, all these reverse cambers are right on this “sweet spot” with a slight variable, tighter on the BC than the FR, pretty awesome!!! That, plus the manufacturing quality, sole, edge, the shiny granulated top sheet is 🔥🔥🔥 Just a bit of a shame some graphics lack sobriety but that's tastes and colors An admirer of France/ our small artisanal brand lpmskis.com/ merlinm on IG Et merci beaucoup pour la qualité de tes essais et ressentis THICC 🙏🙏🙏 du super boulot de passionné ❤️
@1356bekkestua
3 ай бұрын
Merlin, looked through LPM, beautiful skis, dude!
@boonprice-huish2333
8 ай бұрын
I’m happy you’re a fan of 4frnt, I grew up skiing around all the 4frnt guys in salt lake and now have an undying loyalty to them. That being said, heritage looks sick. I previously worked at DPS as well so always gotta support the little guys in the industry
@thicccboyztv
8 ай бұрын
4frnt was my introduction to the cult of no camber! Haven't left since!
@merlinm69
4 ай бұрын
WE have to thanks also Endre Hals who help Hoji to find the good settings on the first Renegade ❤
@arnoldkotlyarevsky383
8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your super in the weeds analysis/exposition. I love it. I was wondering if you would be able to talk about intuition liners and/or fixes we can make to our boot fit at home. I have a ski partner who has instep pressure no matter what boot she is in and I was looking into heel lifts (to reduce the need to clamp down so hard on the ankle buckle) or into an intuition wrap style liner. I know you run intuition tour wraps on some of your boots so I wanted to get your experience with this stuff. Anyway, even if you dont, thanks again for all of your thoughts.
@thicccboyztv
8 ай бұрын
True instep pressure would be more easily solved by volume reduction imo. Getting the foot lower into the boot. Some boots have boot boards underneath the liners-you can remove those if they are there to get the foot lower. Then lower volume thinner footbeds, then a lower volume liner (which liner depends specifically on where exactly the pressure is) something like the tour mod liner allows you to fit additional volume where needed, but otherwise it's very thin. Then you can actually heat mold and manipulate the plastic on some boots to make room in the instep area (a lot easier on Cabrio style boots as compared to overlap style). If you can't do that then you can shave away some liner material and as a last resort you can grind plastic away with a Dremel. First just make your life easier by getting the highest volume instep boot that works for you to begin with. A good bootfitter should be able to solve this no problem.
@akilalika
4 ай бұрын
About BMT 109 (186) stiffness - can you say that it’s considerably higher than average and there is some lower skier’s weight limit for comfortable touring usage? I’m 172cm/70kg and ski 186 renegades, found very good online offer for BMT 109 but a bit hesitant about the 186 cm length as I generally choose second from the top length option as more toned down version for my stature, also considering my more forward mount point preference. And it feels like it’s one of the last BMT pairs in the country so a bit itchy. BTW thanks for your toe area bootfitting video: got courage and finally solved my long lasting boots issues (and usual pure bootfitters communication issues you’ve also mentioned 😅) by myself
@thicccboyztv
3 ай бұрын
Awesome! I wouldn't say that the BMT is considerably higher than average, but it is a stiff ski and it retains its stiffness throughout the flex is very uniform. It's not like stiff underfoot and soft in the tip and tail. It's just stiff throughout. They will feel a little stiffer than renegades, but I don't think it's because they're absolutely stiffer, but just because they are not as rockered. So you will get more feedback fore/aft. But the renegades are heavier. So if you can handle the 186 renegades then you can handle the BMTs. It just depends on if you want to be working at that level or if you want something more casual.
@akilalika
3 ай бұрын
@@thicccboyztv thanks, looks like it will work. One more question about mounting point: do you went with recommended mark? And what is your preference after skiing it? Rec' point is about -10.5cm from true center, so considering my small boot size (mondo 25) and previous ski quiver I would like to go forward a bit, +2cm at max, so not like renegade's forward which is -5.5cm, but something in the middle: -8cm. Do you think it will be appropriate for BMT109 geometry?
@thicccboyztv
3 ай бұрын
@@akilalika I've tried skiing the BMT at plus one and zero. However I am 185 cm, i preferred it recommended And even messing with different sized boots -1. However, I typically ski the katana which is 191 And I ski that plus three (effective about -10) and the BMTs do measure true to length or even plus one. Needless to say, I find that they are pretty accepting of any Mount point that's not super dramatic, especially if you are used to skiing the more forward 4frnts. That being said, The volkls have a tad more side cut, if you go too far forward they might feel a little hooky. Given your height and history I think that plus two would be fine but if you find it hooky then just back off one, My educated guess though, is that you would find it well within the realm of acceptable at + 2.
@akilalika
3 ай бұрын
@@thicccboyztv Nice, at least looks like there are no strict "no-go"s and there is some room for experiments for me. Thanks for your educated input!
@EggsTeaSea
8 ай бұрын
Man I see these heritage lab skis linked on TGR all the time! So theyre sorta like modernizations/fusions of skis from the past bringing what was good about the skis with the hindsight of 2023? Hopefully when it's time for me to replace my Blackops 118's there will be a suitable replacement out there somewhere haha.
@EggsTeaSea
8 ай бұрын
those HB122's look awesome on the website.
@thicccboyztv
8 ай бұрын
@@EggsTeaSeahe's also gonna drop a touring hb122 this year!
@aidank03
6 ай бұрын
Do you have experience with Wovn skis? If so can you review them?
@riptape
8 ай бұрын
Hey! Could you do a video on the HB122?
@thicccboyztv
8 ай бұрын
I realistically only tour so I will not be getting the inbounds version of the HB 122. However, Marshal has said that he is going to be making a back country carbon version of the 122 this spring and I will make a video on that when it is out
@marynowany20
5 ай бұрын
Do you have any experience/opinion on Volkl Blaze series? They all have long, low rockers and small camber. Also light enough to tour. Based on photos blaze 94 looks like it has smaller camber than la machine mini
@thicccboyztv
5 ай бұрын
I do not have any personal experience with the blaze. My opinion and why I have not skied them is entirely based on the fact that they have a very large side cut, though you are correct that I'm not terribly bothered by the long low rocker and small camber. I have heard that they ski just fine. I think it really just depends on how much side cut you prefer.
@williamblommer3900
7 ай бұрын
what are your thoughts on the faction la machine?
@thicccboyztv
7 ай бұрын
I have a video on them. They are a good ski, but not going to have the same speed limit as heritage labs or volkl. They are a lot softer flex pattern wise, have a little bit of camber. I'd recommend them depending on the skier.
@mattdonati24
6 ай бұрын
Heyo! As a member of the cult of reverse camber, would you be interested helping to direct me toward a ski to try out? I mostly ski bc in northern Utah and current skis are V6s 183 and Salomon qst blank 186 (I also subscribe to the ski a heavier ski and just get fit ideology) I’ve also owned V8s, vectors, and dps foundation. I’m 5’10”, 180, ski powder very well, neutral to slightly backseat. The v6 is easy to ski and performs well at low speeds. I’d be interested in a step up complement for when conditions are deeper and I’m feeling friskier. The Salomon’s fit this pretty well but I’m curious about reverse camber… I’d like something soft snow oriented, so the Volkls are maybe not what I’m looking for. 4frnt raven, hoji, ren sound appealing but I’m not sure about how I’d like a long, relatively stiff tail. I don’t jump off of anything huge. Obviously you’re a fan of heritage labs. Maybe this could be simply summed up with ‘if you lived in N Utah, what reverse camber ski would you choose”? Your videos are awesome!
@thicccboyztv
6 ай бұрын
The volkl vw katana is really hard to beat. Such a powerful versatile ski (mount +3 or 4). But it's heavy. If you plan on keeping your current skis, then treat yourself to a big ski, heritage labs c132, faction la machine max, volkl bmt 122...all are good go with what you can find. For final question of if I had to choose one ski for everything but priority pow, the short list is vw katana, c113, I'd go for 4frnt devastator over hoji (more subtle reverse camber like volkl). If you're worried about a long tail then volkl or heritage labs. 4frnts is great, but you gotta not mind center ish mounts.
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