Not gonna lie, my choice is a bit bias... Hiccup and Toothless win. I just feel that their relationship is much more genuine than the one Thunder and Tom have in the Nine Realms. Too bad Alex and Feathers are in The Nine Realms instead of Race to the Edge. Alex and Feathers are the only ones I like in the Nine Realms. That and in a fight between these four: Hiccup and Toothless would come out on top. Toothless has more combat experience than Thunder as does Hiccup.
@EmberNexusYT
2 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to have seen Alex and Feathers in RTTE. I think anyone who's reviewed the show this far is only doing it for Alex.
@lia-kl8nk
2 жыл бұрын
@@EmberNexusYT yeah that woud be amazing shes the best character in dragons nine realms and if she was in RTTE she would have made the plot sooo much better and they would have something to do
@dylster8422
Жыл бұрын
#Alexsupremercy
@privatizitat815
Жыл бұрын
I mean, to be fair, hiccup liuterally comes from a warrior culture. Pretty sure 95% of matchups, viking would beat up a modern human in an even battle.
@LadyDinoCrisis
Жыл бұрын
@@privatizitat815 Fair point. Not even Tom's "plot armor" will help against Hiccup.
@meganvaszary
Жыл бұрын
There's no comparison with the 2. HTTYD is heartfelt and inspiring. I loved every bit of it. Nine Realms is what you get when you put HTTYD through Google translate too many times and change the plot
@zoinksscoob6523
Жыл бұрын
it sounds like if its httyd set in the future but its ai generated
@pufferfishfromminecraft
Жыл бұрын
@Anthropy Requien Even AI would’ve made the show decently watchable
@theloafs2622
Жыл бұрын
@@pufferfishfromminecraft I agree even ai would make it better probably 50x better
@sokaize
Жыл бұрын
@@pufferfishfromminecraft It would've been the perfect parody, too. Like have you SEEN that Batman AI script? It's hilarious, the AI could be more consistent than the writers for this series.
@pufferfishfromminecraft
Жыл бұрын
@@sokaize I have seen it, honestly there should be an actual tv show written by AI, if it’s as funny as the batman comic, it will be amazing
@Nightlizard1564
Жыл бұрын
Honestly it’s not even a competition 😂. One was done with love, effort, and passion while another was made for a simple cash grab.
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
Lol, so true
@Yassa_17
Жыл бұрын
The ultimate truth
@Xx_GeodeBlink_xX
10 ай бұрын
Httyd is so much better. When it comes to detail and script, Toothless’s movies are much better than Thunder’s episodes
@RosiePosie-g2i
9 ай бұрын
Omg lol That's literally all it is right?? 😂❤
@PaigeRobins-ky4qc
5 ай бұрын
@@Xx_GeodeBlink_xX indeed.💯
@toothlesslightfury1788
Жыл бұрын
Everyone: HTTYD 3 was a perfect ending to the story. Let’s keep it that wa- Dreamworks: *we’re done when I say we’re done*
@PaigeRobins-ky4qc
5 ай бұрын
💯
@shinylightmoon
Жыл бұрын
i saw httyd 1 in theaters when i was 10, and still to this day httyd has been my favorite show and franchise ever since. It's hard for me to watch nine realms because it doesn't have any excitement, emotion or expectations but i still watch it. I'm trying to give it a chance but everything is so off. Characters personalities are boring and bland or copy pasted. Dragon designs are horrible especially night lights. Some designs are OK like featherhide's and by far the most interesting and fun character is Alex. i'm 23 and i still Love httyd movies and series, and still even cry when ever i watch the movies. They still hold so much emotion in them and something unbelievable. But nine realms? Ruins everything for me.
@happilyjane1665
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@amelieforster9162
Жыл бұрын
I've watched it multiple times and when I say that I mean like 52 times now it's just background noise and anyone who hasn't watched it in my opinion hasn't had a childhood.
@dragonstheninerealms
Жыл бұрын
Have you thought about the budget? Is it really not clear that a huge budget was spent on how to tame a dragon, and here the creators did the best they could. They didn't mutilate the franchise with part 4. And don't forget about the sequel. Yes, there are controversial points. But why does none of you pay attention to the funds allocated for the series? I believe that the choice of DreamWorks was the most correct.
@happilyjane1665
Жыл бұрын
@@dragonstheninerealms We don't like it. Ok. I honestly appreciate Dream work's effort so far for giving us all these awesome movies. But that series was honestly the most unnecessary move. They didn't need to do anything about it. Of course if you enjoy it, it's completely fine. I personally don't and that is it.
@evernightcg9081
Жыл бұрын
@ShinyKightMoon I too saw httyd in the theaters back then and itˋs still is my most favorite animated movie ever ❤
@faderoo4009
Жыл бұрын
Yeah still i dont understand how Tom survived literally the lightning from the skrill that still would stun him-put him into a shorter sleep or in worse case it would be lethal. Hiccup survived a natural lightning but the impact is put him into a short sleep and Snotlout and his father survived the Skrill's that was weaker lightning but still it burned the ship when he chased Hiccup and Toothless and he burned their house too.
@jasminkrieger8464
Жыл бұрын
Hiccup faces red death in movie one with toothless so
@faderoo4009
Жыл бұрын
@@jasminkrieger8464 yeah
@jasminkrieger8464
Жыл бұрын
@@faderoo4009 thunder and tom would habe had no chance with the dragon from movie 1 were hiccup Lost a leg they dont have the flight and fight expierance and full trust toothless and hiccup had
@jasminkrieger8464
Жыл бұрын
@@faderoo4009 they need to grow it thunder seems younger more unmature than toothless hiccup is aswell be honest more smarter invented adventures than tom hes a descendant but he clearly dont has hiccups brillant mind or Astrids combat skills and temper hes to modern vikings arent that wimpy
@jasminkrieger8464
Жыл бұрын
@@faderoo4009 i dont know tom and thunder dont have much expierance i know they are new to this but to toothless and hiccup it came natural hiccup later showed like his mother others to bond with dragons
@Onryo_8
Жыл бұрын
There is no competition it's just obvious that toothless and hiccup are way better they are the original and the relationship between them is beautiful
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
So true
@SnakySnakySnakyyy
Жыл бұрын
I strongly agree with you 😭
@kenneenee107
Жыл бұрын
exactLy,!!,
@roguecarrick816
Жыл бұрын
Really neat thing I've noticed about how to train your dragon with hiccup is that even after they alter their relationship with the dragons. They're still wearing armor, because a dragon is still a self aware a 10 loaded with napalm. Accidents happen. If anything some of the characters (including hiccup) who are around the dragons the most actually increase the amount of armor they're wearing.
@Ethan_FPV
Жыл бұрын
I never noticed that but yeah! The movies and show even occasionally make a joke about the accidents that happen. Like at the beginning of movie 2 where the dragon sneezes and lights a house on fire to show the fire prevention system. Or the third movie where Hiccup is making the tail, he has toothless fire at it, not realizing Gobber is behind it, who gets a little singed.
@lesliejen6644
Жыл бұрын
"Mom, can we get that how to train your drangon movie?" "No, we have that home" The movie at home:
@ladypool1404
Жыл бұрын
Instead of Hiccup's descendants who is really boring, why not making the series about Hiccup's kids as teenagers? They could find new species of dragons, maybe a group of tiny who hides underground in a jungle like Journey to the center of the earth. They could be terrified of a new dragon with 3 heads, the kid have to calmed him then they became his friends as well as his riders. On the way they will find a lost boy who try to get out but is too scared. Sounds way more fun to watch than Thunder and Tom 🙂
@benkayvfalsifier3817
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but it would have faced the same problem, that being it would have been made for a cash grab just like DWD:TNR and the story would be made half-heartedly.
@eagletgriff
Жыл бұрын
I was hoping this was what T9R shouldve been. Like, these chars already have good designs, good personalities, yet they just threw it all away bruh
@yannickjanssen4307
Жыл бұрын
thats what i thought the 9 realms was (i have never watched it or seen any of it before seeing this) and then i saw the flash light and went the heck how me make that, and then a nice jacket on him and i went hell nah this aint right no thankyou
@TheSpacePlaceYT
Жыл бұрын
@@benkayvfalsifier3817 I agree, because if you realize what the end of the third movie entails, this plot wouldn't make physical sense.
@PaigeRobins-ky4qc
5 ай бұрын
Cool story.💯💜👍
@SugarSpice07
Жыл бұрын
If I could rewrite 9 realms, I'd have the first season start with Tom meeting Thunder and being absolutely terrified. As the season continues, Tom is trying to avoid Thunder while also attempting to get someone to believe what he says (for plot reasons, Thunder would only come out around Tom). All the other kids would tease Tom when he tries to tell them about Thunder (sort of paralleling Hiccup), and there could even be an episode or two where Tom tries to make some sort of over-the-top dragon trap thing. At some point though, Tom gets cornered somewhere by Thunder and is surprised that Thunder doesn't hurt him, after which he starts to warm up to the dragon. The end of the season finale would be something reminiscent of the iconic scene from HTTYD (where Toothless puts his nose in Hiccup's hand) except that Tom is the one hesitating rather than Thunder. Idk what I'd do from there, but yeah! There it is...
@kittyfoxcat7802
Жыл бұрын
Now that sounds like a better story
@dickelbrixjhonlague3235
Жыл бұрын
Bros a better writer than most writers
@Ethan_FPV
Жыл бұрын
Bro, that shit would’ve been the perfect flip on the httyd scene without it feeling ripped off. Like he said in the video, humans and dragons were pretty even. Because of this, dragons were terrified of the humans but were more scared of their Queen. While hiccup is trying to befriend toothless, toothless only approaches when hiccup is unarmed. And only lets hiccup touch him when he’s realized that hiccup wouldn’t even harm his drawing. If you flipped this so that Tom only touches Thunder when he realizes that he has no intention to hurt him, it would be an awesome callback to the og without ripping it off.
@eagletgriff
Жыл бұрын
This fits well with an idea i saw in one of Audrie's review comments. The idea was that Tom doesnt have much interest in their viking history, except for a sigil of the strike class crest which he finds cool and carries around. Now Thunder, who finds the symbol familiar by way of Toothless' scribbles passing down and stuff, would be interested in this human and why they had it.
@mikaylalozoya3428
Жыл бұрын
way better, and the animating would go back to original 😩 i legit am so mad at the animating
@lupinsredjacket3191
Жыл бұрын
Probably biased here, but it's a no-brainer. Hiccup & Toothless for the win. I just feel that Tom & Thunder bonded way, *WAY* too quickly when compared to Hiccup & Toothless. Thunder is a ??? Generation Night-Light Fury. He's never seen a human in his entire life up until he met Tom. Thunder's parents never met humans for *THEIR* whole lives until meeting Tom & the new dragon riders. Thunder's grandparents likely never met humans, period. Thunder just seemed way too trusting of Tom right off the bat. I'm not expecting cinematic writing skills & I realize, yes, Nine Realms is a T.V. series...but that's still no excuse. Of course, there's still the unanswered question of how Night-Lights are still alive after all of the inbreeding they've likely experienced as a species...
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
So true with the bonding thing. It feels so forced and fast.
@mothmoss118
Жыл бұрын
I agree but I looked at it this way- you are right- the dragons had never met humans, not in this generation and the previous generations before thunder. But- wouldn't that mean that they would have no ill intent towards humans? Aren't there places around the world where animals aren't afraid of humans because they had never interacted with a human before? And the generations before them had never taught them to be afraid of us?its odd but if these dragons had never met humans before and had never been taught to dislike them then they don't have a reason to be hostile. Thats just my opinion though and would probably be boring to see in a show 😅
@petthequeenofmaddness8592
Жыл бұрын
@@mothmoss118 But in the show's they found new dragons constantly just because an animal has never seen a person before doesn't mean they will obey your command. I think it's because Thunder is so inbred he has no survival skills.
@VenomQuill
Жыл бұрын
You made me cry at Stoic's death again, I will NEVER get over that guy, I swear. To be honest, I'd normally take a crack at the new series, poke holes, and then say "Fanfic writers, got anything?" But this just... I don't even feel like bothering. Which I never thought would be a feeling close to the HTTYD fandom in any way. (outside of the nightlights)
@pizzapower3166
2 жыл бұрын
Cold Take: Alex should be the protagonist. Nobody f**king cares seeing another Hiccup and Toothless because one(or two) were enough. Tom is retread, June is a retread(one where they really did no justice to the divinity Chinese Long dragons), and Dimitrius(what a stupidly generic black name) is a retread. Alex and Feather are the only part of the show where I feel actually effort was in place. I actually think it would've even been amazing to see a protagonist who is on the spectrum, one who isn't typically white because it isn't just white people who arr the spectrum, and then maybe her dragon also having something similar drawing parallels to Hiccup and Toothless. I guess, it's kinda like this. If anyone knows about grandchildren of Avatar Aang from the Korra series, Milo, Jinora, and Ikki, while Jinora was the smartest and most spiritually gifted, it was Ikki who became the next pseudo Aang thanks to her sticking to the basic core concepts of Aang's character. Kind, patient, and empathetic. Hiccup was intelligent, intuitive, meek, and social impaired with his intelligence being his strongest weapon. Toothless is fierce, rare, illusive, yet genuinely cares and has a deep connection with their along with hik being a mysterious type. This is literally Alex and Feather but, they are like the cool modern remix. If anything, Tom is more of a Snotlout or even an Astrid but, I say that lightly because he is so basic. How are you voiced by the same dude who did Finn from Adventure Time? Alex has been the most consistent character in the series and every single praise Tom has belongs to her. She carries the show like hoe Christiano Ronaldo carried FC Barcelona. But, you know the best part about Alex? She could work as a protagonist who completely ignores the films and builds their own lore. We're learning about Dragons around the world, how many times must we return to Berk amd the adventures there? Don't you dare pull a Green Hill Zone, DreamWorks. Other than that, maybe in the distant future, this will all become non canon and what not or get the Spirit: Untamed treatment. Until then, f**k everything in this show but Alex and Feather.
@dylster8422
2 жыл бұрын
I agree Alex is the only character in the show who actually acts like a human being and her character growth and bond with Feathers actually feel earned.
@abo3mo514
2 жыл бұрын
1.Penaldo has more losses in El Classico you delusional mongrel! Messi owns Real Madrid 2.So any character who isn't white makes them instantly interesting? Being white is boring and old school now? That's very racist
@mutantcacti4209
2 жыл бұрын
you're absolutely right
@theeeveelutionist7245
Жыл бұрын
Literally everyone who watches the nine realms thinks that. She’s the only character who has emotion. I really wish she was in race to the edge and had something to do. Also I can’t believe di angelo has the same va as bow from she-ra. His talents are wasted on this generic character in this crap show
@Just_Leo_kingofgods
Жыл бұрын
?? did you mean D'Angelo?? If you're gonna dunk on how dumb his name is, at least get it right lmao
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
I always love when people take a big and colorful fantasy world and then fast forward into the present to make everything bland and normal.
@heavenheathern
Жыл бұрын
My concern is that they took a seemingly fictional world and retconned it into having real world geography and everything. I mean, the setting had all of this wacky given names of the vikings and dragons and designs, it was self-contained and there was no implication whatsoever that there is our real world somewhere out there. I know Stoick and Gobber mention Odin and Thor in HTTYD 1, but it doesn't mean that the story is based on the real world. But like you've said, they tainted the setting by connecting it with dull modernity with adults with stubby legs and triangle torsos and some people with eyes that are as wide as the front of their face (except Tom for some reason).
@kanden27
Жыл бұрын
The Hiccup and Toothless relationship felt more earned. Where Tom and Thunder was more a “mystic” bond that didn’t feel earned.
@PaigeRobins-ky4qc
5 ай бұрын
💯
@itsdewdrop
Жыл бұрын
10:42 Did you really have to hit me hard in the feels like that?
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
...sorry 'bout that... :/
@itsdewdrop
Жыл бұрын
@@EmberNexusYT I guess I can partially forgive you for introducing me to such a beautiful song.
@mehmetgurdal
Жыл бұрын
@@EmberNexusYT whats the music in this part? I know it's on the soundtrack but not the vocal version.
@deno276lp8
Жыл бұрын
I remember I watched again that scene not long ago I cried cus the soundtrack and moment.
@Lizz296
Жыл бұрын
10:40 damn... that scene hit me harder than my moms slipper 🥲
@raisorblade
2 жыл бұрын
10:56 Nice choice of music! Great video Kale, it actually helps me with my video now!
@EmberNexusYT
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the music with me in the first place!
@maddenboseroy4074
Жыл бұрын
@@EmberNexusYT Again, where'd you find it?
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
@@maddenboseroy4074 Tumblr :)
@Spicex6
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the nine realms isn’t absolutely terrible as people make it out to be, but toothless and hiccup just take the cake. Like, the animation in how to train your dragon feels almost real and recognisable, it also gives nostalgia, but in the nine realms it just feels like any other old cartoon.
@abyssmage6979
Жыл бұрын
This. The animation in the movies just feel much more fluid and polished unlike the nine realms which has a more or less childish artstyle. It just doesn't feel as alive as it did in the movies.
@Spicex6
Жыл бұрын
@@abyssmage6979 agreed
@Hunts-so1jb
Жыл бұрын
@@abyssmage6979 bruh obviously it doesn’t look anything like the movies it’s got less then a quarter of the budget, if you’re gonna compare the animation compare it to riders and defenders, which despite having budget limitations and a few hiccups is still miles better then the nine realms
@aqua171
Жыл бұрын
Correct, This is not the first time Dreamworks has made a Series about HTTYD, HTTYD Riders of Berk, Defenders of Berk and Race to the Edge, They clearly look much better then Nine Realms and the dragons look good like the Deathsong, Flightmare, Screaming Death, Speed Stinger etc etc, I would take those series in a heartbeat compared to Nine Realms
@Hunts-so1jb
Жыл бұрын
@@aqua171 that’s what I’m saying there’s no excuse for it being as bad as it is it’s got an interesting enough premise but they fumbled the bag on every other aspect hell they couldn’t even at least introduce some new interesting dragons to the series that was my favourite part of the original tv shows, every dragon had unique abilities and designs and the ones that didn’t made up for it in other ways, fast forward to this and we have dragons with generic abilities and mediocre designs they couldn’t even reintroduce old dragons right, they brought the Razorwhip back so they could give it the ability to create fire tornados when there’s already a dragon that does that the typhoomerang. It hurts that this is a canon installment to a franchise that I love so much
@burnttoast4352
Жыл бұрын
Me seeing the title: wait isn’t it obvious?
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
(I would like to think so... lol)
@Samiju
Жыл бұрын
Just the scene of them lighting up the boat makes me cry
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
*Literally everyone in tears*
@marvelgirlfan0119
Жыл бұрын
Who did it better? Uh..is that even a question? Lol Hiccup and Toothless, hands down. No competition
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
I mean, at least you know the obvious choice of Hiccup and Toothless! *A question mark at the end of a sentence commonly denotes it's a question 😉
@jasminkrieger8464
Жыл бұрын
Tom and thunder have a lot to learn hiccup has had a unique bond with toothless
@jasminkrieger8464
Жыл бұрын
They are their descendants through
@petthequeenofmaddness8592
Жыл бұрын
@@jasminkrieger8464 toms mom might be but tom not so much like blond and blue eyes and well Thunder is inbred like 1000 year's have passed
@mothmoss118
Жыл бұрын
The only character I care for in the show is Alex- personally it would have been cool if she had been the protagonist. If I were to rewrite the series id have Alex be the protagonist and sole character in season 1, Tom would be this persistent guy who tries to be friends with her and she'd push him away- then at the end of season 1 Tom would follow her into the ravine and discover the dragons- she'd force him to keep the dragons a secret and he'd make a club out of it. The rest of the kids would just be average characters trying to getvalong with them but won't be let onto the secret until season 3 when they too stumble upon the dragons. Another rewrite idea that I had would have Thunder initially vicious towards Tom whod persistently try to be the dragon's friend for the whole season. Contrasting towards Hiccups and toothless quick friendship.
@theldraspneumonoultramicro405
Жыл бұрын
what went wrong? the better question is what did not go wrong? and what is infuriating is the fact that its not hard to make a good story taking place in HTTYD future, all they had to do is to make the story be about Hickups and Astrids future decendant, still living in New Birk, still protecting the secret of the dragons, and they would have to team up with the dragons to chase away people who is the decendants of some dragon hunters who is greedily chasing the legends of dragons passed down from generation to generation searching for the dragons with the intent of turning them into zoo animals and use them is dragon gladiatorial games.
@uzumakiharuno250
Жыл бұрын
I dont understand why they dont make a sequel T.V. Series about Hiccups kids when they are older
@green-legacy
Жыл бұрын
NO ONE CAN BE BETTER THAN HICCUP AND TOOTHLESS NOBODY.
@JP_DaGamer
Жыл бұрын
Factual
@maddenboseroy4074
Жыл бұрын
In terms of setting and danger, we've never visited the Barbaric Archipelago since The Hidden World and Homecoming because the former was supposed to be the conclusion of Hiccup's story akin to his counterpart by Cressida Cowell in How to Fight a Dragon's Fury, and so Dreamworks concluded that there WOULD be no turning back to the archipelago. In terms of power and equality, I will blame The Nine Realms' companion show Rescue Riders for watering down the franchise (that said, after the first film, there's not a lot that the dragons can use to strike fear in the audience; it's not going to be scary on rewatch anyway, and the later attempts at using the dragons - new dragons, more often than not - to scare audiences are put down by everyone saying that all dragons now fall under the rule of cool). And in terms of fear and characteristics, every issue with The Nine Realms can probably be pinned on the mishandling of Tom. Speaking of which, having also watched your perfect character video on The Nine Realms, it would seem to me that whereas Tom and Thunder are a literal adaptation of Hiccup and Toothless - because of course it's the most marketable thing about Dreamworks' Dragons franchise, and the executives practically say as much - Alex and Feathers are more of a philosophical adaptation; that said, why do Alex and Feathers work the most out of everyone in show, or at least from what I've heard? (Finally, where did you get that music for the Stoick's Ship transition?)
@blitzblotch
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, i thought it was the fault of hidden world itself. The very flawwed story writing, throwing out of many of the side character;s personality, and reliance on nostalgia for just two characters really started then. Like rescue riders is for a completely different age group entirely. It's actually meant for young children, nine realms was made for the same age groups as the orginal httud series and just failed to hit the mark in ways they had before. They made money on hidden word without having good story writing so why not try it again.
@maddenboseroy4074
Жыл бұрын
@@blitzblotch But Hidden World WAS a good movie; people still cite it and the other two as a perfect trilogy, even if the dragons having to leave Berk was bittersweet. And what do you mean throwing out of personality and reliance on nostalgia?
@blitzblotch
Жыл бұрын
@@maddenboseroy4074 I have met a lot of people who like that movie (hidden world) but can't even remember what happened in it outside of the dragons leaving. Most of them can't even remember why all the dragons had to leave berk. Hidden world has the same sort of villian as the 2nd movie. Would sending all the dragons away work at the end of 2 and hidden world. The twins, snotlout, valka, and fishlegs all had varying bits of personality that had been hinted at shown throughout the movies. These traits were more or less thrown out or reset. The reliance on nostalgia has to do with people giving the story a pass regardless of the quality because they wanted to see their favorite characters again(toothles and hiccup). Watch the movie while trying to track the plot points from the villians tactics to the execution. If you are going by your emotions and how much you love the character, it's a fine movie. It wants to hit you in the feels, but the story doesn't really hold up under the emotions. And to a lot of people, that is all it needs to do, but then the company learns that as well and we get 9 realms.
Thunder is just oversized dog, it feels like he has no personality outside tom. Toothless had tons of personality without hiccup
@jasminkrieger8464
Жыл бұрын
Thunder is young he didnt grown like toothless but even in movie one toothless is more mature than thunder
@darriongeorge5137
Жыл бұрын
@@jasminkrieger8464 in the first movie, hiccup and toothless were the same age and in sure the same is with Tom and thunder
@jasminkrieger8464
Жыл бұрын
@@darriongeorge5137 i know i meaned toothless acts older than thunder hiccup and tom same age through from movie 1 of course
@jasminkrieger8464
Жыл бұрын
@@darriongeorge5137 i dont know thunder looks more young inexpieranced as toothless
@smogus5806
Жыл бұрын
@@jasminkrieger8464 bruh someone has to put thunder down 💀💀💀 end this tragedy
@blabedybloop3335
2 жыл бұрын
10:40 man you really went and did it to us
@EmberNexusYT
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that 😥
@phoenixgoose8844
Жыл бұрын
Genuinely only just realised the Red Death was actually killed and didn’t just go poof. also I want to hug hiccup and toothless instead of punch them so I guess that’s my vote already decided
@durandal9956
Жыл бұрын
There's one quote that I remembered fits like this "Sometimes change doesn't work"
@Ashlego
Жыл бұрын
I saw the first one when I was 4 and I’ve loved every piece of content relating to it. I was so exited to watch a spin-off placed thousands of years into the future and yet as I watched every episode I was disappointed. It felt like a Walmart version of httyd. Hiccup and Toothless all day!
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
"Walmart version" that's it lol...
@OfficialAndre53
2 жыл бұрын
Toothless and hiccup are better
@mutantcacti4209
2 жыл бұрын
yep.
@OfficialAndre53
2 жыл бұрын
We should gotten like a new series
@SergeyPupkoMusic
Жыл бұрын
Vikings when doing very dangerous things: we're vikings, its an occupational hazard. Tom doing very dangers things: I'm very, very stupid.
@thiagopereira8125
Жыл бұрын
This is like putting master chief and Cortana’s relationship against Cinderella and her mice relationship
@animelover3629
Жыл бұрын
When u brought in the funeral like scene,it hit me in the face 😭
@RRR_1216
2 жыл бұрын
What was the song at 10:50? I know it was Stoick's Ship but damn those lyrics were close to making me tear up reminding me of that scene
@pennirose04
2 жыл бұрын
Same I want to know too man
@EmberNexusYT
2 жыл бұрын
dearhoneylemon.tumblr.com/post/158650677177/update-had-to-reupload-yet-again-since-soundcloud It was so hard to edit listening to this. It's such a beautiful mix of loss and acceptance
@Trash_Cat21
Жыл бұрын
Now I have to rewatch the movies and race to the edge.
@TryinBin8889
Жыл бұрын
I was so distracted by the background music. Great taste my guy!! MITM, half the hk soundtrack, I was blown away about how somehow 3 of my biggest interests found themselves in one video EDIT: You hit the nail on the head with your three main points. Mutant_Cacti also explained very well and humerously
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you enjoyed and I happened to include so many things that you liked! :)) I'll be sure to let him know! Hopefully I'll see you again in my comments section!
@khalilicf
2 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed every bit
@EmberNexusYT
2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad :) Thanks for watching!
@nightfurydoesblender4225
2 жыл бұрын
@@EmberNexusYT I'm on my main rn, you can tell httyd is really close to me
@kawsara5366
Жыл бұрын
Hiccup had the best character development. Ever. No competition at all.
@mrbombastic982
Жыл бұрын
The answer could not be more obvious, hiccup and toothless went through so many journeys together, httyd1, gift of the night fury, defenders of berk, race to the edge, httyd 2, httyd3. In each second hiccup and toothless were on screen they acfually showed real emotion towards eachother, while the nine realms is just a bunch of garbage with no actual originality at all, i would bet a million dollars some random person online could make a better storyline and animation using SFM.
@Holly_blank
Жыл бұрын
here, a better meeting plot for tom and thunder: tom meet thunder and tells the project icorise scientists and they capture thunder and run experiments on him, they put on a remote controlled shock collar so he wont flee and inject hime with a drug that makes him pass out for an hour every five hours, tom feels bad so he takes off the collar and sets him free not knowing about the drug, the following week he proceeds to find the antidote, he finds thunder in a radioactive-affected mushroom circle gets him out and giving it to hime in the form of a fish so he starts to trust him[not to much though]but it only lasts for one day and tom cant just keep on sneaking off cause some already suspect him so he decides to stay with thunder, fleeing into the wilderness. thunder relies on tom to keep on giving him the antidote and toms goal is to earn his trust also can we rename thunder to Nightstalker?
@Hyper.Vyper.
Жыл бұрын
I think instead of putting the show in the modern time or the far future, it should have been Hiccups grandchildren. It would have been nice to see the main character find Hiccups notebook, maybe their parents could have given it to them. Maybe they meet thunder (who needs a serious makeover) on a boat while they're exploring or fishing. That'd make the most sense because The Lost World is in the middle of the ocean.
@knuxenglish
Жыл бұрын
I really want to see movie versions of the original book series
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
Now *that* would be something..
@fast-yi9js
Жыл бұрын
oh wow , never been more glad to forget to check out a sequel series
@optdan1233
Жыл бұрын
Kid-Mom I want how to train your dragon. Mom-we have how to train your dragon at home .How to train your dragon at home .Dragons Nine Realms
@cornerfluff
Жыл бұрын
What went wrong? The animation budget LOL New series stands no chance
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
Minimum wage is beautiful isn't it? (this is a joke, please don't sue me DreamWorks)
@Johnnekaiser
Жыл бұрын
I Feel like they should of continued the story with hiccups kids. Not to mention they could go into other viking clans, Think about it. Yes there was those Dragon Hunters who mass hunt dragons but, What about the clans who didn't, I'm sure there was some that sort of respected the dragons as well. Like what if there was a clan who used dragon hunting as a right of passage, That when they bring back a dragon they used it's body for weapons and armor because it's how they sustain them selves via trade. I'm sure dragon meat would sell for a high price. But when they all vanish, Those clans that relived on dragons to that degree also fell on hard times too. Hicc up would of destoryed many other honest clans that relived on the dragons, even though they wouldn't ride them like they would of
@forest1560
Жыл бұрын
Hiccup and Toothless will forever hold my heart. With what they did, it just feels stail. I don't want to see it if it's not in viking time. EVERYTHING is wrong. With the og we saw a story, a relationship, hardship and death. We built a connection with the characters, the place, the story. This new series doesn't have that. They basically took everything we loves about how to train your dragon and squashed it.
@ryanbiju4006
Жыл бұрын
i seriously doubt anyone would say that Tom and thunders relationship was anywhere near as good as toothless's and Hiccups let alone better
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
...you'd be surprised... :( 😭😭
@peeblekitty5780
Жыл бұрын
@@EmberNexusYT I sure am, what??
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
@@peeblekitty5780 I always kind of knew it, but then I confirmed it with a recent community poll. 2% said T9R was their favorite out of ANY Dragons property 😭
@thorodinson6625
Жыл бұрын
@@EmberNexusYTas someone who likes the show due to its new dragons and new environments, that is just straight up cap
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
@@thorodinson6625 Hey! I'm all for constructive conversations and discussion, and it'd be great to know more about why you disagree if you care to share anymore! :)
@XenoTronusWeePoo850
Жыл бұрын
Hiccup's armour in the thumbnail is amazing
@jut_dwaetoucher
Жыл бұрын
I hate the new one, I don’t think I’ve ever hated a reboot more (other than monster high). I’m not bringing my kids up on shit like this 😭.
@nairagar7338
Жыл бұрын
what's interesting is that httyd is a world without any high-technology, but a world of survival with dragons in it and exploring world we've never seen before, it gives a feeling of escaping reality and going into this fantasy world, quite similar to atla and kfp. then they gave this to the new generation, like can't they just make a new different show with new plot, new characters and new original everything???
@vasilisa1866
Жыл бұрын
I mean- is this even a question????? Also, love the Hollow Knight music in the background loll
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
@vasilisa1866
Жыл бұрын
@@EmberNexusYT yeah!! Hollow Knight’s amazing, that’d be a great video
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
@@vasilisa1866 I'll definitely consider it! My style was very different back then, but you might like this video I did with my friend using the Multiplayer mod too.. kzitem.info/news/bejne/yKOCnImkoH-eon4
@denimvelvet4670
Жыл бұрын
A lot of this is comparing Tom and Thunder to the movie series, but Hiccup and Toothless also had a television series as well. And I think that's worth pointing out as well because it was handled so much better than this has been. Tom almost feels like a blank slate for really little children to plaster themselves onto, and Thunder just exists to be the cool toy to buy.
@amayawynn1999
Жыл бұрын
I died laughing reading the title
@Rising2Dawn
Жыл бұрын
Hiccup and Toothless. There’s a clear answer here.. the abrupt change from cinematic master piece of Viking era and great story photography to.. kid blockbuster Tv show in a present day clothes and style.. just.. REALLY doesn’t sit right with me visually
@The_grimaldi2
Жыл бұрын
Guess my choice I have 5 toothless plushies 5 toothless figures and that's only my toothless merchandise (My room looks like the hidden world)
@kevinknox3815
Жыл бұрын
the funeral and music during it still gives me chills
@Firemaster1643
Жыл бұрын
When I started watching this I didn't think I was going to cry
@choostopher5018
Жыл бұрын
All that sounds interesting (and correct) but I think so much would be forgiven with The Nine Realms if Thunder wasn't UGLY.
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
//Season 4 spoilers// Have you seen the Night Lights? They are something else...
@night4138
Жыл бұрын
Hiccup and toothless obviously did it better They even look cooler in the thumbnail
@williamophof5560
Жыл бұрын
I get a whole lot more nostalgia watching hiccup and toothless than watching Tom and thunder and besides toothless is a night fury the last of his kind that's what makes it even more interesting he is one of a kind if we got to see more night furies then just toothless okay that would work kind of cool but it would take all the things that are special about that and ruin it toothless is like a birthday or Christmas he is special because he is rare and everyone cannot get enough of him and since he ended up with the light fury he got to create up a new breed of dragons the night lights and that being said the night lights you see at the end of HTTYD 3 are cool and they get to grow up with their parents toothless and the light fury.
@rimurutempest850
Жыл бұрын
Bro, there's no contest. Hiccup and Toothless just built different.
@equivalentkarma9110
Жыл бұрын
When I had found out that there was a series of httyd taking place in the future I thought it would be ok like not the best but just ok, as soon as I saw the weird art style for it I said "nope"
@theeeveelutionist7245
Жыл бұрын
Someone send this to audrie greywinf cause she’s gonna blow this comment section up
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
Dw, she sees it ;)
@lockwoodstudios5462
Жыл бұрын
Tom looks like the spoiled kid In every dhar Mann video lmao
@DoctorBustdown
Жыл бұрын
With exactly 50 seconds remaining I realize that the hollow knight sound track is being used
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
Greenpath just has that presence lol. SO GOOD!
@hambourje
Жыл бұрын
i didnt even watch the nine realms and before the video even started i already knew they weren't able to even come close to what hiccup and toothless were, I'm so glad to be one of those who grew up with the How to Train your Dragon movies, they're one of the best out there
@Fizzy_Pop522
Жыл бұрын
Ngl I hope the nine realms gets canceled so they can focus on our fav httyd characters cause I'm more interested in how toothless and his wife are doin than some spin off httyd
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
I'd be down for that
@darriongeorge5137
2 жыл бұрын
8:24 what is that nightmare
@spiritsofwolves
Жыл бұрын
I didnt even know this existed until some youtube videos i saw and i will continue to believe that this does not exist
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
The best way to live lol
@bearman....
Жыл бұрын
Stoick's death was so damn sad tbhj
@sparxstreak02
Жыл бұрын
10:49 What is this GORGEOUS piece being sung & by whom?! 😍
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
It's linked in the description :)
@tahliaosullivan487
Жыл бұрын
We just not tlaking about how SAD 10:34 is? i sobbed 😭😭
@fridayhc
Жыл бұрын
i nver knew about the 9 realm stuff..but y the animation like that...ohhmagadd
@bellapetloverstillwater3021
Жыл бұрын
Hiccup and toothless is 100000% better
@thomasbunk8524
Жыл бұрын
I see how thunder makes himself invisible for the first time, but please what is that XD he just spits weird flashes and he's gone what does that have to do with httyd
@shadowranger5907
Жыл бұрын
Bringing a medieval fantasy world into a modern setting is probably one of the single worst decisions you can make however I say this but there are a few exceptions
@syl3r
Жыл бұрын
Read that tbc note about the writers. I absolutely agree with that too. I can imagine them writing an actually good storyline only for it to go through the PR filter and have every form of riveting violence, conflict, and danger removed because it's a "kid's show".
@jjagiya
Жыл бұрын
I am legit seconds into the video and I giggled at the fact you're using the 'mafia in the morning' instrumental
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
ITZY forever, what can I say? I use their instrumentals quite a bit lol - Not Shy is probably my most used
@Green0Destroyer
Жыл бұрын
If we remove nostalgia from the equations hiccup and toothless still always win no matter what.
@lazlolammers3947
Жыл бұрын
I'm loving the Hollow Knight soundtrack in the back! It's such an amazing game!
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
It's amazing isn't it!? I love it!
@leannefox2112
Жыл бұрын
I dibs getting to feed Tom and Thunder to the Bewilderbeast!
@ToothlessDragon14
Жыл бұрын
I have a theory why the dragon quickly became friends with him and saved him. Grom's family and perhaps Grom himself knows about the friendship between humans and dragons. A portrait of Hiccup's family was painted in a cave in the hidden world. He just didn't want to be friends with Tom because his family forbade him. Could it be?
@ToothlessDragon14
Жыл бұрын
If he makes friends with a human , then other people can find out about it. And kill dragons
@petthequeenofmaddness8592
Жыл бұрын
I think it's because Thunder is inbred and deformed like 1000 year's have passed and Nightfurrys mate for life.
@madelines.
Жыл бұрын
the hollowknight music though 🫶🏻
@MarimbaBurd
Жыл бұрын
This video is so underrated and entertaining ngl
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed :)
@MarimbaBurd
Жыл бұрын
@@EmberNexusYT no problemo! This was an interesting comparison vid.
@elo2coon434
2 жыл бұрын
So... Great video, great music and yeah... The narration has a big problem. The premise doesn't create a high enough conflict (movie one: A whole world war between two species. Until two outsiders between life and death change the game with sacrifices. The 9 Realm: Oh! A big puppy that spits lightning ... ). And I think the problem is in the statue co of the show and the lack of antagonist. Its good to make a story about kids finding that dragon exist. Can it be interesting without conflict, surely. Would it be better if their where conflicting dynamic and such ? Yes. I think the series should have created a conflict. I give one at random. The dragons left in movie 3 in the hidden world and we can assume that apart from the heccup family, they didnt live the realm. But what happens when you find yourself with an opening out of nowhere... The fissure. Wouldn't curious, invasive dragons just try to discover/ invade this new world unexplored by their own for centuries? Hmmm maybe it would be to dark and waki... Oh yes, what if the dragon didn't care for some reason until they got interested in the fissure cause I dont know, some human decided to polute their near environnement with noises and sensor. Like i dont know, a dragon tha can litteraly feel and spits electricity .So the inside of the fissure and the base have at nigt weird electronic phenomenon and Tom whose want to so Proove himself try to ivestigated the thing. Or he's just a curious kind. That could have been fine to... ( but curious =/= no survive instinct). And so he find thunder and what if thunder was'nt the only one which had problem with human activity like a mad dragon and some weird shit. Its not perfect and their is a lot of things to change and add cause I didn't talk about the human interest at the other side of the equation but it just my rumbling on something like a bad vidéo game sequal parody that came out of nowhere.
@petthequeenofmaddness8592
Жыл бұрын
I think it's because Thunder is inbred and deformed like 1000 year's have passed I don't know how he hasn't starved yet.
@peeblekitty5780
Жыл бұрын
And on the power dynamic: just realistically speaking, dragons in _general_ are at the humans' mercy. The only thing keeping them out of danger is the secret of their existence, which is fragile. Like with real K-selected predators, they absolutely pose a threat to a human one-on-one, but if humanity wanted to wipe out dragons completely, they could. We're horrendously good at killing these kinds of animals. Lions, tigers, and polar bears are real endangered thanks to us. Strong predators don't realistically pose a threat to modern society at large, certainly nothing compared to the threat modern society poses to _them._ Which means if modern humans and httyd dragons were to go head-to-head in genuine conflict? I mean they're superpowered dragons so humanity wouldn't get out _unscathed,_ but the dragons would be screwed! What are they gonna do if humans just blew up their hidden world, or poisoned their food sources? Even if the two species weren't at odds, scummy humans would definitely hunt dragons for sport. Dragons aren't going to be able to come out of this on top in any real way. In T9R, dragons are kept secret because them existing alongside humans could never lead to dragons having equal power and could very well lead to their endangerment or extinction. The human/dragon conflict worked in the original because humans weren't technologically advanced enough to shoot or nuke all dragons or whatever. The technology they _did_ possess was limited, but was their greatest advantage in the fight against superpowered beasts that roughly equaled them in numbers. Humans and dragons were evenly matched and both posed huge threats to one another. They could, and did, believably, _war._ And that means that when they're friends, they're friends by mutual choice, and one is not "above" the other. They were explicitly _equals_ as opposed to master and pet. (And the villains of the story were those who tried to force dragons to be their slaves or underlings). Thanks to this power imbalance inherent to the worldbuilding, Thunder (and arguably all dragons) are entirely at Tom & Friends' mercy with this secret. This goes against all that equality between humans and dragons in the original series, and not in a way that's addressed or taken in an interesting direction. It just makes dragons seem fragile, and their bond with their humans cheap and dependent.
@akirance33
Жыл бұрын
How to train your dragons: Ayo who turned it up to 4k ultra hd : Dragons the nine realms: Ew who turned it down to 144p
@nathanvosburgh718
Жыл бұрын
if i wanted to see a HTTYD animation if done right like they did with the 3 movies i would want it to be of Zephyr and Nuffink and have them go through something similar like a nod to how their parents went through
@Acnologia-nv1gu
Жыл бұрын
I also preferred the Viking setting more than modern day
@EthanMastercrafter
Жыл бұрын
I see these two as two completely separate entities (call me biased this series is my all time favorite in animation), not saying the nine realms is god awful, just lackluster, A dreamer's attempt at making their own HTTYD. The Orginal HTTYD timeline was a beautiful story from start to begining, and while adventures with hiccups children would have been nice to see, I was always in it for the relationship between Hiccup and Toothless. And their story is beyond anything the nine realms could ever dream of.
@ExtemporaneousnessOne
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on hitting 1K! You go King!
@EmberNexusYT
2 жыл бұрын
Eyyy, thanks for sticking around all this time! ☺
@gertboer3458
Жыл бұрын
Why did you put Stoicks ship in, I don't want to cry for an hour again😭
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
Lol, I'm sorry. It's such a beautiful cover though!
@gertboer3458
Жыл бұрын
@@EmberNexusYT It absolutely is! But it makes me sad every time I see it
@fabriziovitali5227
Жыл бұрын
No way you used the Hollow Knight Soundtrack for this. perfect
@EmberNexusYT
Жыл бұрын
There'll always be AT LEAST one HK piece in my videos :) I can guarantee it (they just work so well)!
@fork4207
Жыл бұрын
Why does every popular franchise always lose there magic and falls into corporate greed.
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