I ask for their salary ranges on the first phone call. No one wants to waste time
@YouTube_Staff
Жыл бұрын
@@ZacharyFleischman some companies, even larger ones, do not disclose, they ask you to anchor first
@ZacharyFleischman
Жыл бұрын
@@KZitem_Staff yeah, but enough do, that unless you really really wanna work for a specific company, I haven’t found it to be an issue. I usually don’t ever anchor unless I have a competing offer on the table that I’ve already negotiated up as high as I can get itz
@MyPhuckDub
Жыл бұрын
They didn't tell me how much I would get or didn't ask me about my expectations. At the end of the interview, I asked about the salary, and they laughed at me that I didn't have manners. Fuck off and your company, man!
@Erik_The_Viking
Жыл бұрын
Sadly this is typical at most companies, then they complain about a "talent shortage"
@ShivamJha00
Жыл бұрын
Ain't no ome complaining about talent shortage in this recession
@MichelAngeIo
Жыл бұрын
Is it typical in US ? Here in France we just have like 30mn interview, then technical exercise, that’s it
@Erik_The_Viking
Жыл бұрын
@@MichelAngeIo sadly yes it is. Depends on where you're at and the company. Some companies have their act together but most put applicants through multiple stages over several months.
@Daddyjs
Жыл бұрын
@@ShivamJha00 what do you mean?
@aajpeter
Жыл бұрын
I've never in my life had or seen such a crappy interview process.
@ben_wurster
Жыл бұрын
The jobs that I have ended up and and loved are consistently 30 min to 1 hour single interview. Says a lot about the company when they cut the bs.
@aajpeter
Жыл бұрын
You got an engineering job with an hour or less total interview time? Sounds pretty careless on both sides.
@douglasmenard5852
Жыл бұрын
Do the dougieeeee
@GameSmith
Жыл бұрын
I'm currently in my first web dev job, and honestly I feel like I hit the jackpot. And yes, hiring process was super swift. Remote interview, and was informed I got the job like an hour later. It was a 3 month contract, and then they brought me on full-time. I'm very grateful for the team that I'm on, and it has really set the standard for me for future positions.
@MrSurfsAlot
Жыл бұрын
I am working at an MSP and it was only one interview and I was hired. I'm working like 14 hour days..unpaid overtime. It's not always a good thing
@aajpeter
Жыл бұрын
@dev stuff that's a screen. You actually need conversations with a few people if you have any interest in learning about each other, the company, getting different perspectives on both sides, before both parties take the leap. So sure, you can be brief and barely do adequate diligence, but starting a job (and potentially quitting one to do so) and hiring someone are big investments for each. I guess it depends on how much care you want to take and the nature of the work too. And to be clear I'm taking about less than a day, not days or weeks.
@shaneckel
Жыл бұрын
"Here's my github with several real world work up to date examples of software I'm currently responsible for and deploying to in production that identically matches, if not superior to, what you have at your current company along with a 10+ year long tenured history in writing and deploying the same arena that this job requires." "Great, can you traverse a double linked list with recursion right now in 15 minutes while a kid that just graduated with CS degree 3 days ago holds a literal gun to your head... This is something you'll absolutely never do here and have never done in your career but we googled 'what does google do for hiring' and figured it was absolutely perfect for our need to build a basic react application that just renders what an API sends. If you can't do this you won't be able to feed your family... no pressure. gl gg."
@desolationdispute9715
Жыл бұрын
You've been hurt, as have I.
@Sindoku
Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but your side project on GH isn’t the same as a production level app that has to have as close to 100% uptime as possible or else the company goes bankrupt.
@shaneckel
Жыл бұрын
@@Sindoku It's a joke. I'm happily employed.
@kraldada6557
Жыл бұрын
@@Sindoku Well you don't know that. But anyways this is usually a problem with some devops or IT guy. Not the developer.
@Erik_The_Viking
Жыл бұрын
Yup - Been through that very same process!
@universe_decoded797
Жыл бұрын
I had a 45min chat, then technical interview, then half an hour chat, then 60 mins cultural interview. And this was for a junior position.
@omertoast
Жыл бұрын
my interview for a junior position took like 30 mins and I didn't even get a technical interview.
@mikopiko
Жыл бұрын
Cultural interview?! Whats that?
@omertoast
Жыл бұрын
@@mikopiko it was obvious they are going to hire me because of my background and my contributions to their repo. so it was a chat rather than an interview actually.
@universe_decoded797
Жыл бұрын
@@mikopiko in my situation this where questions like how I would handle pressure . Does my mindset fit in company. What if there was a huge escalation how would I deal with it etc. Felt more like the final interview with one of the leaders.
@potaetoupotautoe7939
Жыл бұрын
@@omertoast ur flexing
@morgankuphal3417
Жыл бұрын
Took me over 6 weeks of interviews to get my current job, but damn it was worth every minute of waiting. I doubt this would be the same for most people, but I got super lucky.
@meetgandhi4981
Жыл бұрын
Where do you currently work at ?
@william3588
Жыл бұрын
Where is this?
@infernoeagles5812
Жыл бұрын
Also would like to know what company this is
@Easymode460
Жыл бұрын
Are you a boot camp grad
@Out5Here
Жыл бұрын
jesus look at the comments... were in a recession
@b.o.t7888
Жыл бұрын
In my current company they just did 1 interview where I didn't even show my face and we talked about some nonsense for 20 mins. Next thing I get an email with an offer letter and the biggest pay I've ever gotten.
@carloss3028
Жыл бұрын
Same history haha
@b.o.t7888
Жыл бұрын
@@carloss3028 and I actually enjoy doing my job🤣
@gonzalesr82
Жыл бұрын
What’s your position?
@shvedas
Жыл бұрын
Same here hehe
@b.o.t7888
Жыл бұрын
@@gonzalesr82 junior web developer 😛
@billy818
Жыл бұрын
Tbh the industry is saturated with people who don't know anything about software engineering + hr depts that don't know anything about hiring software engineers
@brianjones3643
Жыл бұрын
I had an interview once and never heard anything back from the company. I kid you not 5 weeks later they called me back and said they would like to bring me in for another interview. I told the lady I had already interviewed and accepted an offer at a different company. She was shocked that I didn't wait to hear back from them first.
@gewoonjulian5917
Жыл бұрын
The audacity they have is insane 😂
@MrMLBson09
Жыл бұрын
I would have absolutely called her out on being shocked. You don't fucking wait 5 weeks with zero follow up/updates and expect things in return. lunacy
@Yarin5879
Жыл бұрын
You pass'em all and then they hire another candidate
@WaddupBoi
Жыл бұрын
literally had this happen to me
@fmachine86
Жыл бұрын
Of course. The CFO’s nephew was obviously the best choice.
@tnetroP
Жыл бұрын
Then they ghost you if you don't get the job. No feedback. Not even told you didn't get it after several weeks interviews.
@paradiseexpress3639
Жыл бұрын
Aint no way i'm gonna be applying for three weeks
@Ivcota
Жыл бұрын
I had a 3 week interview and it sucked... Pay is good tho so I'm not complaining anymore lol 😅
@dylanthony1
Жыл бұрын
I’ve done it and made it to the last round and the got ghosted by the company
@embedded_software
Жыл бұрын
My current role took six interviews and a 45 minute presentation over the course of a month and a half.
@sealmeatisbestmeat1241
Жыл бұрын
@@embedded_software that is beyond stupid.
@embedded_software
Жыл бұрын
@@sealmeatisbestmeat1241 Well, I passed, and it's a great company to work for. I really enjoy working here.
@Thebigskullman
Жыл бұрын
This is *exactly* how it goes in any IT capacity, my theory is that because the field tends to have anti-social/introverted/even on-the-spectrum types in every environment, those same types also tend to gatekeep and enjoy (subconsciously or on purpose) flexing/intimidating candidates to kinda almost make themselves feel good about their own knowledge and expertise. I’ve been through the entire gamut in my career from helpdesk to sysadmin to engineer to architect and management, and I specifically conduct interviews that go the opposite of the way you showed here (like making people feel comfortable, asking real-world stuff, not asking ultra-specific questions you’d likely only know if you were coming out of a certification, etc) because I’ve lost out on *countless* jobs getting locked up during a tech interview, forgetting the most basic terms after a simple hiccup and snowballing into sounding like a dude who’s never even touched a computer. Just saying, anyone that relates to this- it’s not you, imo, it’s the interviewers’ lack of social interfacing capabilities/nuance.
@hectorg362
Жыл бұрын
Any tips on doing I terviews as a social awkward!/on the spectrum?
@am2p.
Жыл бұрын
@@hectorg362 This may sound stupid and obvious, but the best answer is just do an interview and get through it. Then keep repeating the process until you get a job. There’s no magical process to improving at interviews if you suffer from anxiety, are nervous, or are on the spectrum (at least based on my experience as someone who was in the same boat as you). Eventually you’ll just get comfortable speaking with others, which my guess is the root problem, not so much that you have trouble speaking during interviews, just that you have trouble speaking with strangers. Other than maybe practicing answering common interview questions to yourself out loud in front of a mirror, and making sure to keep eye contact no matter how uncomfortable it feels, the main tip is to just get through the interview, and you’ll naturally gain experience.
@ianh850
Жыл бұрын
well said
@Smoshylife
Жыл бұрын
Tl;dr
@abisayopeterabiodun574
Жыл бұрын
What's even more annoying is that after all of this, the offer usually isn't very flattering
@samizafar7491
Жыл бұрын
Me: Thinking of getting over a single interview without forgetting OOP concept. Companies :
@felipepineda3872
Жыл бұрын
The best job I have landed came this way: a really Nice folk with NY accent started chatting with me. Both had our cameras off, really chill and low key, we even laugh at nerdy jokes about the exercise. next day I got the offer. Turns out the folk was basically a founding father of modern internet with 25+ years of experience lol. The real heavyweights in this industry have nothing to prove.
@jasonwilliams_escapeimagery
Жыл бұрын
It’s important we make changes from the inside. Once you’re interviewing devs ensure you make changes. In my experience if we had a process like this we would loose every dev that applied because the good ones would receive offers before we could ever get them to the second or third stage.
@rustystrings0908
Жыл бұрын
"yes I'm here for the react job" "Of course - just implement a quick min queue and min stack with O(n) operations, and log(n) searching. Then center a div"
@bryceblankinship
Жыл бұрын
Then center a div 😈
@efexzium
Жыл бұрын
😂
@randomly_random_0
Жыл бұрын
then change the color of this button
@embedded_software
Жыл бұрын
Lol log(n) searching
@ethisfreedom
Жыл бұрын
everything’s easy until you’ve to center a div
@Layne_M
Жыл бұрын
Ah man, all this was missing was a good loop timing, maybe if the "boss" called "NEXT" after this first guy.
@johnaashmore
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant 👏
@gteixeira
Жыл бұрын
The first question is always "What is your citizenship status?"
@krishp1104
11 ай бұрын
immigrant detected
@gteixeira
11 ай бұрын
@@krishp1104 Not really. They always ask that even if you are interviewing from abroad.
@nat028
9 ай бұрын
@@gteixeira no ive never been asked that lol
@gteixeira
9 ай бұрын
@@nat028 If you only apply for work at cobalt mines in Congo for $2 a day, they won't ask. Any job that pays a living salary has tons of applicants, so they can be picky.
@KarlOlofsson
Жыл бұрын
Just accepted a new job. The process: 1) Initial recruiter interview 2) Engineering manager interview 3) Technical test 4) Technical interview with manager and principal dev 4) References 5) Reference insight interview (never done this before) 6 Offer 7 Clarifying various stuff from my end 8 Accept
@wanainai
Жыл бұрын
I know of marriages that have less stages..
@SOMEONE-eq5bu
Жыл бұрын
Brooooo Couldn't say it better 👏
@jamessullenriot
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a dev for 16 years now and do very well for myself. I’ve been at my current company for 5 years now and have no intention of leaving anytime soon basically because of this. Last year I interviewed at a place and did 6 single person interviews …. 6 😂. I then got the email about “we have decided to move on and explore other candidates” or however they word it. I even did leetcode prep so I could solve interview challenges I would never solve in my actual day to day
@MegaGadgetdude
Жыл бұрын
Yo, shoutout to that one company that had me do 7 hours worth of interviews with multiple different people
@_ch1pset
Жыл бұрын
This is basically why I don't have a software dev job... minus the turning an offer down in favor of unemployment to get away from AngularJS
@_ch1pset
Жыл бұрын
For the record I'm not currently unemployed. I wouldn't have turned down a job if I didn't think I could get one elsewhere, or that if I didn't have a safetynet.
@adv1494
Жыл бұрын
@@_ch1pset what's wrong with angular
@blablabla7796
9 ай бұрын
Can I try to bridge the divide? I think it’s understandable why companies are like this now. In the olden days of software development, devs were few but the requirements are a lot less than they are today. For a position, you can probably hire the town geek that likes computers and you’ll more or less get a working product. It was the technological boom so anything with tech is basically an untapped goldmine so the few devs that existed were filthy rich. Fast forward today and the average dev is ultra specialised despite having dozens of items in their tech stack experience. You can try to slap on a web dev into an embedded role and suddenly, they’re basically at entry level in terms of skill. The requirements of the hyper competitive market also ridiculously high. I’m almost certain that the vast majority of devs have 12 things to do in the time you have to do 5. There’s always more things you can do but never enough time to do anything so we have mountains of tech debt. Not only that, but since it’s widely known now that devs can potentially make bank, the average comic book nerd is now defaulting to a dev job despite having 0 inclination or skill for development. You can see this in every office. There’s always at least one guy that you know shouldn’t be here because of how unequipped he is for the task expected of them. So despite getting paid 6 figures, the guy does the work of what is essentially a receptionist despite being hired as a senior dev. So now companies are wising up and are trying to be better at offering deserving candidates a position. But they’re coming about this the wrong way with their silly over the top screening processes.
@ben9583_
Жыл бұрын
Unironically this was my experience for my software internship applications. 2 behavioral 3 technical (don't forget the online assessment at the beginning) and yea few weeks between applying and decision.
@Raining_Potatoes
Жыл бұрын
Bruh where were you even applying for I've never heard of an internship interview being this bad even for FAANG
@pretty_in_scarlet
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! - I hate the tech interviewing process. It's like "we're hiring you to possibly be a spy and build some rockets, so please don't mind us grilling you until you forget your own name." (for us who get extra nervous during the interviewing process this is exhausting)
@immortalsun
Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with the video! It’s so frustrating to spend hours preparing for an interview only to be asked questions that have nothing to do with the work I’ll actually be doing on the job. And don’t even get me started on the endless coding challenges and online assessments. They may be good for screening out people with no programming skills, but they don’t really measure the skills and experience that are relevant for the job. It would be much more efficient and fair to just review candidates’ projects and work history-and maybe have a short conversation to discuss their approach to solving problems and working in a team.
@AlexCell33
Жыл бұрын
Just applied for a job that wants me give a 1 hour presentation, have four 1 hour technical interviews with different team members, and a final 1 hour interview with hiring manager!
@jonathandalli2905
Жыл бұрын
Wtf
@royd-l
Жыл бұрын
I once applied to a startup that had an absolutely hellish gauntlet of an interview process. 1 phone screen then 1 simple technical then 3 technical and then 3 behavioral interviews with upper management, one of which was with the CEO who would scrutinize your work history to determine “cultural fit”. But that’s not all, the final 6 interviews were scheduled all on the SAME day. I didn’t get the position, but needless to say, I don’t think I’ll ever encounter a more mentally exhausting interview process.
@fmachine86
Жыл бұрын
The fact that you even participated encouraged these companies to keep doing this garbage.
@kassios
Жыл бұрын
I would simply do as the video suggests. Apply somewhere else and let them know about it
@faymalin
Жыл бұрын
Interviewer: Here take a look at this code. Our team has been struggling to implement this for weeks. Interviewee: Oh see you can't actually do that because of this one rare part of React that only few heavily qualified people would know. Do this to fix it. Interviewer: Thanks a lot. Unfortunately we had a lot of applicants and this is very competitive so we had to inform you we went a different direction but try applying again in 3 months.
@fmachine86
Жыл бұрын
Send a bill.
@MrMonoposon
Жыл бұрын
Never provide free labor.
@apristinemadani
Жыл бұрын
Great video! Yes, everything has become insanely impractical. Lots of talented people are getting screwed over by ridiculous procedures, questions, and expectations
@nagyzoli
Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, they get a 4 interview tops rule from me. Usually there is a short HR interview, a tech interview and a final interview with the manager. Because I am lenient, I allow companies a 4th one, like the final all team together interview.. but that's it
@saxzphone
Жыл бұрын
Most entry level software engineer job here just have one stage with basic competency and technical questions. Thankfully I don't live in USA. My brain exploded when I did an Amazon interview, so I ended up overloading the site and got kicked out... For example, my first entry level job there as no coding interview and was working with the best and brightest people. Just goes to show.
@maharta8458
Жыл бұрын
Where do you live?
@WisomofHal
10 ай бұрын
I’ll tell you what… I have a damn good job right now at a FAANG and I’m in the middle of interviews at a non FAANG but a late stage startup that’s making billions a year. It’s a solid tech company and a great opportunity to IPO in the next few years. The interview rounds seem a little more technical than the FAANG rounds I went through, which is blowing my damn mind. When the HR person told me the interview process, it took everything in me from to stop my jaw from hitting the floor. After the FAANG interrogation I told myself I’d never go through another process like it. Here I am going through the second time. Although, this company I believe is definitely worth it. It’s a pain, but I’m more than willing to do.
@peterszabo-toth2063
Жыл бұрын
Imo the more senior you get the less the process takes. There is a high influx of Juniors now, so ofc the companies want to make sure that they hire the one who is most fit for the job.
@Erik_The_Viking
Жыл бұрын
That's been my experience - the more senior the role, the less hoops you have to jump through.
@kukualdulimy3699
Ай бұрын
İt's annoying but I can't really blame them
@randomly_random_0
Жыл бұрын
for me, 3 rounds of interview just for technical one is too much. I usually withdraw my application whenever a small company demands too much interviews
@zeno_aratus
Жыл бұрын
in reality you really won't know about someone's capability and fit until they start working at the company on a team. You can do all the interviewing you want, you will have people who seem to interview poorly and are great and visa versa.
@mh1066
11 ай бұрын
You have to filter out moles entering a company as a social engineering tactic.
@aakarshan4644
Жыл бұрын
crazy part is that the big tech timeline isn't 2 3 weeks but 2 3 months lol
@jaycool9480
Жыл бұрын
yeah, Ima have to pass cuz its excessive. 2-3 months and not getting the job, I'd be pissed. Feel like I was wasting my time.
@Weaver_Games
Жыл бұрын
The longest I did was Motorola that was 6 rounds over FIVE MONTHS. I actually found s job in that time and was working but really eanted the motorola position at the time and just kept going lol. They ghosted me after the 6th round.
@ThatBigGuyAl
Жыл бұрын
Lol how to scream “toxic work environment” right off the bat
@notquitehim
Жыл бұрын
it's good to see I'm not alone, I had a job as a dev before the pandemic, then i started my own thing, now i went back to trying to get a job at a company and this has been my experience, it's almost like they do this so you stay with them forever
@fdenimar
Жыл бұрын
I had an interview ran for weeks with multiple take-home code exercises as well as live coding with behavioral interviews. The result? Ghosted me. I had a friend referred me to a job? In less than 30 mins without showing my face, I got hired, and it was bigger pay than on the multiple interviews I had. Technical interviews are really weird nowadays if you don't have a network.
@Axonn1018
3 ай бұрын
Unrealistic, they don't put all these in the same week. They put one meeting per week so that effort for one job can stretch to a month.
@amansagar4948
Жыл бұрын
Software jobs are becoming a torchure, especially for new comers, Why is it a thing. It's a supposed to be a "JOB" and not an entrance bruh
@enriqueavina6827
Жыл бұрын
I’ve gotten rejected, not even a first round interview, from so many new grad SWE jobs despite having done 5 internships and founded a software startup…what’s going on rn
@AliMalik-yt5ex
Жыл бұрын
Recession coming up and a lot of companies just think it is too risky to hire a new grad. I have 4 internships and leadership experience along with top GPA and I am going through the exact same thing.
@enriqueavina6827
Жыл бұрын
@@AliMalik-yt5ex I’ve found that there are certain tech companies like TikTok and Bloomberg still hiring a lot, finance still going strong, but the most reliable way I’ve found opportunities is through networking (my university network and just reaching out to randos asking them to refer me on LinkedIn). Keep ur head up, something will come through.
@dandogamer
Жыл бұрын
Because your competing against people made redundant from google, twitter, amazon, etc. Who have 10+ years
@lukkuuu6368
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes + a 1-2 weeks take home coding assignment as well.
@jasonnares9634
Жыл бұрын
Im currently in an Australian company that does technical interview without asking technical questions. Really good culture and work ethics. No pressure, no micro management, and just lets you do your thing. I upgraded my standards with interviews after that.
@Sindoku
Жыл бұрын
I did 4 interviews back to back. Only one was technical. The others were pseudo technical, but mostly behavioral.
@RobertLoyale
10 ай бұрын
Bro that’s not even bad. 1 behaviors, 2 technical interviews and then a culture interview. If you get to the last one you in there baby
@7oeseven793
4 ай бұрын
For an internship, I had an HR screening 30 minutes, Behavioural 45 minutes and a final technical of 1hr. For an internship...
@remyfamily8652
Жыл бұрын
My current job (after 3 companies) I had a 30 minute conversation and discussed my previous GitHub work and got hired. It's my first job where I made 6 figures. Been there for 7 months now and I am still enjoying it a lot!
@masonasa7009
3 ай бұрын
“That is also technical ofcourse 😅🙏🏾”
@0xahmad542
Жыл бұрын
Lol, I'd rather apy to 20 diff companies in 3 weeks than 1
@Krbydav328
Жыл бұрын
Currently have a very slow government software maintenance job I landed from a recruiter who led me to a 2 round interview lol. Just got an offer at a place where I could do actual development I did a 2 hour technical interview and 1 hour behavioral, but they redid their budget and I've been waiting a month with weekly reassurance from my recruiter that "they're going to do something!"
@vaibhavkothari8240
Жыл бұрын
I’m never wasting so much time for a job I’ll apply somewhere else too
@codingpiano4596
8 ай бұрын
My interview for junior SDE position 1. Online Assessment, HR round,... 2. 60 mins technical interview with two senior engineers 3. 45 mins technical and behaviour combined interview with hiring manager Luckily, I got the offer 😅
@mudanenadaara
Жыл бұрын
Got an offer from a big company where their process was just 1) online test 2) 30min chat about the company (you dont even need to say anything) 3) 3 hr final interview, 1.5hr behavioural 1.5hr technical solving a problem. Really impressed with them
@jeklo3713
Жыл бұрын
😲
@Sindoku
Жыл бұрын
I agree that they shouldn’t be asking questions that are crazy hard to answer (I.e. like no more than medium on Leet Code), but hiring a bad software engineer could be a multi million dollar mistake.
@elijahburimi
Жыл бұрын
Ok sure but that depends on so many factors. Unless you're hiring someone with 0 experience to fill a extremely difficult critical position with sensitive, unrecoverable stuff, you should be okay. There should be checks, literally, to make sure the code they make passes tests, and also checks/balances in regards to PR reviewing and what systems the person can access. They shouldn't have access to anything else that they don't need, and the things they do need access to should be carefully vetted to make sure they know what they're doing and that no changes can be made without a recovery plan or again, someone else to accept the changes. I wouldnt give a new hire instant access to my production AWS servers but I wouldn't mind letting him make PR's in the codebase. I started working 8 months ago with 0 experience and have learned / improved so much compared to what I was taught in school, and am comfortable with a lot of techs/frameworks both front and backend, and have gained the trust over time to work on more serious systems. But tbh I couldnt back then, and prob not even right now, answer some medium leet code questions lol. But ya i feel if companies were less strict they would be able to find new people and grow new devs that will also stick with them since they grew with the company. Again ofc, if the position is very serious, difficult / sensitive, then they should already be very competent but I think most people in the comments take this as an issue with entry level jobs.
@growwithanshuman
9 ай бұрын
hey hey ben ben , I saw one of your video using micro-orm , I really liked that while using it in my node project
@Gr8thxAlot
Жыл бұрын
This is the correct response. Nope out of these ridiculous processes.
@duvannavarro1865
Жыл бұрын
And then after 4 interviews and a month later they tell you you were rejected 🙃
@pguti778
Жыл бұрын
This is true!! I think mainly taken from Amazon hiring style.
@mohammedgt8102
11 ай бұрын
I did that with AWS. After all of that wasted time. They started with a low offer, and my response was F U and rejected the offer. They negotiated, and I said I am not interested in wasting more time and went somewhere else. I told them my expectations at the beginning, and they agreed. I think they drag out the process for so long to get you attached to it.
@SimGunther
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, if could just make this kinetic minimum spanning tree data structure on the whiteboard without any mistakes, that'd be great. Thanks.
@rudinah8547
Жыл бұрын
Feels like an extra round there, and usually I see hiring manager interview in final round but also sometimes at the beginning. But overall this is what I expect the loop to look like. But there are places that hire within 2-3 rounds and fewer technical stuff. Especially if you have a referral
@johnypayeras
Жыл бұрын
Yeah so sad snd true, honestly saving money while you get a job will help you a lot.
@mohit4902
Жыл бұрын
You can tell a field is saturated by the number of rounds you have, any average data/analytics related position nowadays has too many rounds nowadays
@corradomusic
Жыл бұрын
This typology of hiring process is intended like this: your time is free but their time not! fair right? Why do they exclude the possibility to hire you with a lower salary for a trial period and for a specific task instead of abusing of your life time?
@peterszarvas94
Жыл бұрын
Look, good-hair-ben
@cirtey29
Жыл бұрын
That's the sign the field is getting crowded
@d_lom9253
Жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I don't want to test the job market. I currently have a good paying job i enjoy. Could i do better on the open market? Sure probably, but the hiring process seems like hell on earth
@AliMalik-yt5ex
Жыл бұрын
2-3 weeks is basically at the minimum. My interview process took a month, and I am still waiting to hear back, and they said that the hiring manager might want to meet with me again.
@muhammadrahim4712
Жыл бұрын
That why people prefer freelancing
@getinnocuous
Жыл бұрын
Kraken, Aircall, Autotrader just to name a few
@TKGZONE
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget lastly an interview with the ceo. Then for the job applicant expect this x10 for every company. The entry level market is such a depressing joke because this is true
@leadappdev4852
Жыл бұрын
I’m so bold I’d let my poc know I won’t be proceeding. All the extra bullish for little pay
@sql64
4 ай бұрын
"with my colleague of mine"
@yoshu4221
3 ай бұрын
This is 100% hiring manager stupidity. Engineers getting pulled from tasks three or more times per candidate to do technical interviews is an enormous waste of resources. It's just window dressing for the current staff who are being overworked and keep asking when more help is coming. The average time people work for a company is now down to less than a year, so when you pass the interview you're likely to find something else or get laid off. Corporate America has blown the trust of the workforce and it's unlikely to get it back.
@f.c2130
Жыл бұрын
Well, 3weeks is indeed very long. But currently hiring talent is like house shopping. You gotta do more research before you make the purchase. Do you wanna skip those housing inspection/house history etc prior putting down a highest offer only to find out this house is full of crap ? Unfortunately same theory applies 😅, and like they said, with current layoff trend. More and more talents are floating in the market. So what makes you so special the company have to put in an offer right away is something to think about to market yourself
@ufufu001
Жыл бұрын
the market is extremely pathetic at this point. it's so discouraging. i don't wanna go through all this shit just to have a job
@MeikaiBry
Жыл бұрын
For one company I had an online code test, then an HR interview. At the end they said “Okay your first of 4 interviews will begin in two weeks” Two code, one cultural and one final
@ckaryuusai1722
Жыл бұрын
different company : mowing the lawn in the neighborhood
@rvndnishad
Жыл бұрын
haha, indeed this has became the reality of software engineer interview these days
@exokristian
Жыл бұрын
With my colleague of mine :D
@babaramdass462
Жыл бұрын
Tf no system design interview?! Crazy. Probably junior position though
@SpiceAndSauce
Жыл бұрын
we gotta start improving interviewing skills of the interviewer.
@muhammadinaammunir6761
Жыл бұрын
Canadian companies has this interview process.
@mohit4902
Жыл бұрын
Add 7 more rounds and you have an average data scientist/data analyst/data engineer position
@thieltube390
Жыл бұрын
For positions paying 200k yea this totally makes sense
@mudaquetoca
Жыл бұрын
I Love these kind of videos that remind me that working for the government was the best decision I've ever made
@Number704
Жыл бұрын
This is why I never started engineering. I can do the engineering, can't do the interviews.
@yonasmenghis5627
Жыл бұрын
I don't know who can relate but i also went through similar lengthy interview process for an entry level investment banking position. It's one hectic journey 😅
@jaycool9480
Жыл бұрын
3 weeks is too long in my opinion. I believe in 4 interviews including the offer. Which should take no longer than 2 weeks max. That's really all you need. I don't know where a recruiter call, 1-2 tech phone screens, and a gauntlet came in at. Companies tryna burn out candidates?
@potaetoupotautoe7939
Жыл бұрын
Torturing at its finest. Just reject.
@programistaartur1647
Жыл бұрын
Since I got my last job I am the one who tells interviewer what are requirements and I am the one asking questions. If I don't like it we are done. I am going somewhere else
@notquitehim
Жыл бұрын
It's so time consuming, I spend 2 weeks jumping through hoops with this one company, mofos even gave me a take home challange, just to be ghosted at the end. Valuable time I could have better spent interviewing at other companies
@wesleyberry4261
Жыл бұрын
I wish this was exaggeration, but its not. Been through it myself quite a few times.
@julianahill4212
Жыл бұрын
that's straight up what I do...
@webapple1
Жыл бұрын
oh no , no thank you . maybe 2 interviews is enough , red flag for those who do more than 2. sorry.
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