Missiles also have use-by date to consider. Their propellant has a defined shelf life and flight performance can become erratic if a missiles life span is ignored. So being able to use these missiles now instead of jealously hoarding them does make sense.
@ac1455
7 ай бұрын
Unless we’re getting into another conflict or if they were going to be gifted to Ukraine or sold to another country, it’s not much use to just keep them in storage.
@barryhill1044
7 ай бұрын
Look at it this way, the cost is born by tax revenues ! The learning curve of using these missiles in a Red Hot Military environment is priceless, The cost of Illegal Immigrants in Hotels is costing £ 8 million every twenty four hours of EVERY DAY ! So, In just one week We will Have spent more money on illegal immigrants in hotels Than the cost of 56 ( £million pound )defence Air defence Rockets fired from ships Defending World shipping Trade ! .. One costing is in £ Million’s the other is in £ Billions 🤡, just my opinion,
@Rob-vv5yn
7 ай бұрын
@@ac1455 you can’t gift the missiles without any means of controlling them. Ie they require radar and computer systems and you need to train people to use them and Ukraine doesn’t have a navy anymore.
@clacicle
7 ай бұрын
True, but I think that the OP meant missiles and ammunition in general. Many of the people who are against the West arming Ukraine use the argument that their countries are wasting taxpayer money by giving various munitions to that country without realizing that, as was stated by others, they have a use-by date. After that date much of it gets destroyed. @@Rob-vv5yn
@bcanuck
7 ай бұрын
@@semperfi-guy If you'd seen them celebrating Oct. 7th in your country, I believe you may change your mind.
@sam23696
7 ай бұрын
I find it incredible that they are replacing miniguns with a 50 cal browning. The same gun they've been using on ships for nearly a century, literally one of the most battle tested. A great choice over what is probably a very high maintenance gun.
@Man-Made-of-wood
7 ай бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing. My only guess is US military wanted a new pay day
@patthonsirilim5739
25 күн бұрын
the intended targets of the auxiliary guns onboard ships are often small fast boats a 50 cal has more range stopping power and better down range accuracy at range the 7.62mm is good for stopping a person but may prove to be somewhat lacking if your talking about taking out a boat.
@johnmarlin7269
7 ай бұрын
It's incredible how long that M2 Browning HMG hangs around -- I believe it's over 100 years now, albeit with a few upgrades. Much credit to Mr. Browning.
@Touketsuken
7 ай бұрын
Almost 100 years! The M2 has been in service since the early 1930s, and hasn't changed all too much since ww2. It works and works well lol
@sam23696
7 ай бұрын
And replacing a minigun as well. I'm guessing they learnt the hard way that a high precision, highly sensitive electrically powered weapon system is a terrible replacement from what is probably one of the most battle tested and sea worthy guns ever made.
@JeffBilkins
2 ай бұрын
John *Moses* Browning
@patthonsirilim5739
25 күн бұрын
@@sam23696 problem with the mini guns there using is that its a 7.62mm caliber the 50 cal simply pack more punch and range the caliber is more suited against human targets rather then small boats unlike the 50cal that was develop as anti material caliber plus the m2 will last longer and be cheaper to maintain what is there not to like more range more power and cheaper to maintain.
@rchrdgrn
7 ай бұрын
Leave it to the british to find the ultimate defense against cricket balls.
@LondonSteveLee
7 ай бұрын
Well you couldn't leave it to the cricketers.
@davelightbody
7 ай бұрын
Well done the Navy for doing what its designed for - protecting UK interests on the high seas. Trade through this region is vital to the global economic health including the UKs. These UK missiles may be expensive but they have done their job and the ships they are protecting are a heck of a lot more exoensive. On top of that, the combat experience dealing with multiple targets is priceless. These ships have never been tested in combat like that so this is actually a great opportunity to gain experience and data. As for folks saying these are under armed for anti ship and land targets, well thats why it operates in conjunction with other vessels including subs. These ships could be protecting carriers so live combat air defense testing is actually a great opportunity.
@MrGamingBobo
7 ай бұрын
They are protecting commercial ships from attack, If they don't protect them they will avoid using the Suez Canal increasing delivery time by weeks and the delivery costs go through the roof. And ontop of that protect the lives of crew onboard these boats. @FarTooRight
@nakiii63
7 ай бұрын
@FarTooRightprotecting out commercial ships that use those waters to transport oil and goods. if they don’t protect those waters and shipping lanes are blocked prices will start rising, not just in the UK but across the world
@philhebden374
7 ай бұрын
@@JimCarner Yes we do. what do you think an aircraft carrier is the elizabeth and prince of wales? We have boats that carry marines and subs with ballistic missiles and nuclear ballistic missiles. The diamond can hit land targets as well but it's made mainly for warfare at sea and taking out air attacks on the navy
@vereferreus5262
7 ай бұрын
@@JimCarner Sorry chum, you better stop reacting. Pure rubbish you put down here.
@mildlyderanged
7 ай бұрын
@@JimCarnerthe purpose of a destroyer, particularly in the modern British Navy, is to serve as a screen for Aircraft Carriers, not to attack ground targets. The Carriers attack ground targets, the Destroyers stop the Carrier getting attacked.w
@Brian-om2hh
7 ай бұрын
A good test for HMS Diamond's missile, fie control and radar systems.
@ArenBerberian
7 ай бұрын
All these years later and the old M2 Browning is still replacing more modern weapons systems.
@dadistos4538
7 ай бұрын
@@JimCarner are those DARPA rounds even being fielded? Haven't really kept up with that project but nevertheless they were pretty crazy looking.
@wwmoggy
7 ай бұрын
The MG42 still in service also as the MG 3
@01aldouk
7 ай бұрын
@@JimCarner Raufoss HEI rounds have been banned, for some time now.
@01aldouk
7 ай бұрын
@@JimCarner The UK Forces will never have them, maybe the septic's will....
@kieranholland1048
7 ай бұрын
Yeah I found it odd when they said that the 7.62 mini-guns are being replaced with Browning .50 cals, much slower rate of fire and a bulkier piece of kit but no denying the range of .50 and the reliability of the thing.
@lopezalehandro1666
7 ай бұрын
00:37 loved the Cricket ball reference. HMS Diamond has been sent out to bat and its guarding its wicket well.
@anon.6678
7 ай бұрын
9 wickets down at the other end though. Great rear guard on its way out but the sun has set, and its name is renhai.
@LondonSteveLee
7 ай бұрын
As an emergency wartime fitment the Royal Navy should be bolting on a ControlMaster200 radar guided variant of Starstreak. Cheap compact British missiles effective out to about four miles. This will give us interim guided point defence until Sea Cepter finally makes an appearance covering the enormous hole left by ASTER 15's poor minimum engagement range. This modification could probably even be engineered at sea.
@Farmer-bh3cg
7 ай бұрын
Flying the Union Jack, she's clearly a Well Armed, Dangerous opponent manned by a crew with 400 and more years of winning naval tradition behind them. I would Not like to tangle with her. As an American admirer of the UK, I think the Houthi's might regret tangling with her. These actions will give the service and the weapons manufacturers valuable information of the practical strengths and weaknesses of the weapons.
@Mmjk_12
7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately she is not well armed. Compared to your American destroyers (Arleigh Burke class) Which carry a VLS capable of holding up to 96 missiles. Our Type 45 holds half as many as that. But worse is the fact that the Type 45 only carries anti-air missiles in its VLS, She only has 8 harpoons in 4x2 configuration as a weapon against other ships, she also has no ability to carry land strike missiles or missile launched torpedoes. The US ship can carry any missile it wants in any number it wants, including land strike missiles and missile launched torpedoes for anti submarine warfare. America also has over x10 more Arleigh Burkes than the UK has Type 45s.
@uioplkhj
7 ай бұрын
@@Mmjk_12Bigger country and economy though.
@LondonSteveLee
7 ай бұрын
@@Mmjk_12 The Harpoons are gone - given to Ukraine - only the Frigates have them. No NSMs to replace them in sight, no Sea Ceptor either - Type 45s are a sitting duck against close in attack. At least Diamond and Duncan have DS30 - that's some comfort.
@user-tz2ch1im3r
6 ай бұрын
@@Mmjk_12 England build the best anti air only destroyer that is perfect for anti air and anti missle but cant do anything else ... it has almost 0 anti sub and anti ship ability even less then a corvette to be honest.
@Bob10009
7 ай бұрын
All RN ships are under armed. Don’t replace the mini guns with Brownings, supplement them. Then hurry up and get Sea Ceptor and Naval strike missile on board along with the Martlet on the 30mm systems and Wildcat.
@soulsphere9242
7 ай бұрын
In terms of close in gun armaments the Type 45 is pretty par for the course. I am guessing the switch from Miniguns to M2s is a cost decision, but other navies also use the M2 rather than the Minigun for the heavy MG category.
@01aldouk
7 ай бұрын
Not much difference between sea viper and sea ceptor.
@noahway13
7 ай бұрын
When they only get used once a decade, it does not really matter.
@kizzyp2735
7 ай бұрын
@@01aldouk I believe you can quad pack the sea ceptor in the same space as 1x aster missile
@nubbyg9096
7 ай бұрын
Huge difference. You can quad pack CAMM, instead of just 48 Aster 15/30. @@01aldouk
@Roar1987
7 ай бұрын
The problem is we're firing multi million pound missiles at relatively cheap drones. It's unsustainable.
@kizzyp2735
7 ай бұрын
The cost balance is a multi billion pound supertankers and cargo not being sunk.
@graveperil2169
7 ай бұрын
its not the cost its the number T45 has only 48 VLS that can not be reloaded at sea with 21 targets in a day even 1v1 its dry in 3 days sure the US ships have more VLS but at this rate they are all in trouble
@deanwood1338
7 ай бұрын
@@graveperil2169 how many arliegh Burke they built? 120. How many do the uk have? 4 (ish?) 🤣
@Mornknightleader
7 ай бұрын
@@deanwood1338 relevance? Its amazing what 34 Trillion Dollars in debt can buy you 🤣
@graveperil2169
7 ай бұрын
@@deanwood1338 73 and 6 (T45)
@user-ki2jp1cp3o
7 ай бұрын
It must be interesting for these sailors to fire their weapons in anger when most of what the navy does is show its presence.
@angelocignatta4597
7 ай бұрын
The tragedy of war is that it uses the best men to make the worst men. (Henry Fosdick)⚓
@jonathannorris8992
7 ай бұрын
I have a suspicion that the bases firing these weapons are shortly going to get a visit from a group of short blokes with British accents and anger issues, lol
@Joe-jh8po
7 ай бұрын
The stats on the radar system are mind blowing
@halberderdier8073
7 ай бұрын
Are they published, or "spies only" 😂😂😂😂
@graphbobby
7 ай бұрын
It is one of the most modern and capable naval radar systems in the world right now, very impressive indeed.
@garydurandt4260
7 ай бұрын
As someone recently said, when are they going to stop shooting at the arrows and instead shoot at the archer?
@BIBIWCICC
7 ай бұрын
Israel?
@MediocreAverage
7 ай бұрын
Last night, I believe!
@Debbiebabe69
7 ай бұрын
We have plenty of land airbases in the region, as do the Yanks, and they have two supercarriers as well. If we decide to stop war dodging, get in the mixer, and go on the offensive, it will be the RAF doing the heavy hitting.
@kyleh5419
7 ай бұрын
@@BIBIWCICC your mom**
@user-il7ob6lv2f
6 ай бұрын
Is that Monday to Friday and not after 5PM then?
@SurprisedDesertCobra-px6nd
7 ай бұрын
carry on lads
@jameskeener7251
7 ай бұрын
Clear, concise, and informative.
@mannitov2644
7 ай бұрын
RULE BRITANNIA, BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES!
@is_that_sleepy8915
7 ай бұрын
Proud to be British 🇬🇧 🏴
@KpouMusic
7 ай бұрын
@@JimCarner😂😂
@Thee_Penguin
7 ай бұрын
🤦 oh dear@@JimCarner
@Thee_Penguin
7 ай бұрын
@@JimCarner it doesn't get much better than the Elizabeth fleet mate...... State of the art tech!
@user-tt6il2up4o
7 ай бұрын
So 3 years production fired in a few minutes
@georgegeorgakopoulos5956
7 ай бұрын
In Forces News We Trust
@pgw1977
7 ай бұрын
Forces news is naturally biased, they can’t help it otherwise they wouldn’t be given any access. And how can we trust the dwindling numbers of equipment and woke personnel, that our deceitful government is in control of?
@LeeTillbury
7 ай бұрын
Why are the mini guns being replaced by Browning 50 cal. Aren't they older tech?
@OgalyBogaly
7 ай бұрын
The m2s have a longer effective range, which is preferred over pure rpm
@asan1050
7 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting..
@avfc4pete
7 ай бұрын
Don’t see them tryin to land a helicopter on that boat 😂
@sam_uelson
7 ай бұрын
Love that they're replacing the miniguns with a 50cal thats a 100yr old design.
@chiefexxor5069
7 ай бұрын
How do those drones stay in the air when painted with fire control radar? When we have life firing exercises ans airbus is supplying 250k € Drones most fall out of the sky when the radar fries their internals
@teeanahera8949
7 ай бұрын
You don’t understand radar. It is not a directed energy weapon and it cannot fry anything let alone a drone’s internals.
@chiefexxor5069
7 ай бұрын
@@teeanahera8949 a focused radar beam is an directed energy weapon.
@MrHistorian123
7 ай бұрын
@@chiefexxor5069 Correct. From a professional Physicist.
@chiefexxor5069
7 ай бұрын
@@astebbin well airbus cant shield their 250 000 drones vs APAR Radar, iran seems to be able to
@DWillis7
7 ай бұрын
It's a shame the missile capacity is so low. Not enough air defence missile and no land attack capability from the VLS. The Arleigh Burke's can carry over 90 air defence missiles and can fire TLAM from the VLS, whereas we're at pretty much half that. CAMM isn't going to increase it by enough. Not with how threats are evolving with drone swarms supplementing missile attacks. It's a shame we didn't go with the Mk41 VLS so we could carry TLAM and SM3. We should definitely be adopting the Aster-30 Block 1NT with us not taking Mk41 so we at least have SM3 like capability.
@ramal5708
7 ай бұрын
But RN ships have better trained and motivated sailors and officers plus hundreds of years of tradition than the USN, the RN existed longer than the USN. USN on paper is the largest but in the real life RN is better.
@fh511
7 ай бұрын
@@ramal5708USN has 1000x more modern combat experience. The USN would wipe the floor with the RN, the entire RN is smaller than one US fleet and we’ve got like 10 of them
@pgw1977
7 ай бұрын
Sad but true.
@ramal5708
7 ай бұрын
@@fh511 RN has Falklands war experience to boot, what's the USN had, Vietnam? (No large use of missiles and electronic warfare yet), Praying Mantis?, Gulf War? I mean they almost lost USS Cole to suicide boat in 2000, USS Stark to Exocet in late 80s, shot down a civilian airliner with an AEGIS cruiser. The British had more experience in a real war, the US had overrated combat systems in the old Aegis, PAAMS is 10x better and British sailors and officers are well trained to man their ships, Type 45 also is better ships class overall in stealth, sensors, electronics and weapons than 80s-90s designed Arleigh Burke, we're in 21st century and Type 45 is one. Aster missiles series just needs to be developed more to have the same capabilities as Standard missiles series, I mean Aster missiles are newer than the 1960s designed Standard missiles. Also what's more important RN has centuries old of great cultural significance, from sailing ships, dreadnoughts to guided missile warships, the USN just existed in the 1770s.
@leekirkham1985
7 ай бұрын
@fh511 war of 1812 The Battle of Lacolle Mills 500 Brits V 4000 Americans British victory Battle of Crysler's Farm 900 British V 8000 Americans British victory 200 of you got done in by 25 native Americans at the battle of Brownstown. You'll never learn, will you? Love your ignorance.
@anon.6678
7 ай бұрын
That'll be the UK out of its 2024 military budget then. Also, no one outside of the colonies knows about cricket. Maybe that's where you've been going wrong.
@johntutty8486
Ай бұрын
Seacat aimer on the Londonderry, by hav times nd weapons changed since then 😮
@richardmeo2503
7 ай бұрын
outstanding
@LondonSteveLee
7 ай бұрын
Out sinking if anything attacks it.
@edwinmodu3178
7 ай бұрын
I thought they weren’t Rebels I thought they were the government of Yemen ?
@pparker768
7 ай бұрын
Don't ruin the story.
@ataxpayer723
7 ай бұрын
The Shia insurgency in Yemen began in June 2004 when dissident cleric Hussein Badreddin al-Houthi, head of the Zaidi Shia sect, launched an uprising against the Yemeni government. The Yemeni government alleged that the Houthis were seeking to overthrow it and to implement Shī'ite religious law. The rebels countered that they were "defending their community against discrimination" and government aggression
@freedomloverusa3030
7 ай бұрын
WEAKNESS KILLS, projecting weakness will only encourage the enemy to cross more and more lines, until they cross one that cannot be crossed, and then, far more people will end dying.
@givemelibertyorgivemedeath001
7 ай бұрын
Enemy? What has the Yemeni people done to UK citizens ? AFAIK, they're not responsible for knife crime, inflation or lack of jobs in the UK. Leave the middle east alone while your crewmen still draw breath. This is not your fight.
@teeanahera8949
7 ай бұрын
This is why the US has an out of control gun problem, where the total number of people killed each year by guns (44,000) is about equal to the troops killed in Vietnam (50,000). It is also why there’s a nuclear arms race. It is NOT a legitimate or logical argument when taken to its logical conclusion.
@teeanahera8949
7 ай бұрын
@@givemelibertyorgivemedeath001that is a good point, there’s a humanitarian crisis going on in Yemen caused by the Saudis.
@osteicht
7 ай бұрын
@@givemelibertyorgivemedeath001 If that is your reasoning then If Russia attack your country all other country will not help you and leave you alone until you become a communist country anyways UK has interest there If you think about it your trading ships do cross that small passage and yemen doing blockage has economic impact to your income and other countries crossing that sea.
@01aldouk
7 ай бұрын
@@teeanahera8949 Yemen has been in a crisis for many decades, since the 1950s-60's.
@davidrobertsemail
7 ай бұрын
Only six ships. When 12 were originally ordered many said 12 was not nearly enough. How sad.
@LondonSteveLee
7 ай бұрын
And they promised by dropping to 6 (actually 8 then 6) they would be equipped properly - they lied. It's only a matter of time before a Type 45 get converted into a submarine due to holes in point defence. Sea Ceptor is desperately needed.
@russmarkham2197
7 ай бұрын
no more money now due to Brexit
@davidrobertsemail
7 ай бұрын
@@russmarkham2197when it rains you blame Brexit.
@russmarkham2197
7 ай бұрын
@@davidrobertsemail No. When the UK doesn't have enough money for a decent navy, I blame Brexit
@davidrobertsemail
7 ай бұрын
@@russmarkham2197the last type 45 was operational over 10 years ago. Please explain how Brexit is the reason the order was cut from 12 to 6 in 2008?
@trustgtr33
7 ай бұрын
these ships has limited amount of missiles and require a port to re arm, a saturation attack can be very dangerous..
@ataxpayer723
7 ай бұрын
"a saturation attack can be very dangerous..' Dangerous for whom?? Those on the receiving end?
@eyeofthetiger6002
7 ай бұрын
They did try a saturation attack but unfortunately the response they got was a hammering from the US and UK resulting in most of their missiles and drones stock being destroyed as well as their command and control infrastructures! 😅
@vereferreus5262
7 ай бұрын
There are multiple systems defending the ship, both soft kill and hard kill in multiple defence shells. Plus, ships usually do not operate alone.
@waylingtons
7 ай бұрын
Yeah this ship is part of a fleet. It’s not sat there on its own and they have plenty levels of defence against anyone trying to board.
@Jst4vdeos
7 ай бұрын
Launching a saturation attack makes you a great target for an actually competent military
@wansoyus6618
7 ай бұрын
Amazing BattleShip king of the sea 💪
@01aldouk
7 ай бұрын
It's a Destroyer, not a battleship.
@anon.6678
7 ай бұрын
@@01aldouk Is it not a ship that goes into battle with the mighty Houthis?
@sadaasdafa8635
7 ай бұрын
I think you mean warship. Don’t worry, ship names don’t really align with literal English definitions so it can be a bit confusing. Warship - A vessel designed for combat. Basically anything armed and military. Battleship - The term used for an especially large vessel designed to carry large cannons with the intention of dominating the sea with its very presence. Our last Battleship went out of service in 1960. Destroyer - a medium-sized vessel often used for patrols, escort, screening and submarine hunting. The one featured in this video is a destroyer.
@Dragon-Slay3r
7 ай бұрын
1:17 blackberry cover? 😭
@condezftv9083
7 ай бұрын
Can it be last for a long play and sustanable defense in reality? 😅😅😅
@russmarkham2197
7 ай бұрын
The guy firing the Browning looks incredibly exposed. But then I know very little about what the incoming fire would be these days.
@rz2142
7 ай бұрын
This government is like your broke friend who keeps borrowing money from you because "times are rough", then he comes home with cool expensive toys like this.
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5
7 ай бұрын
At 39 seconds in, the view of the radome made me think of the Daleks. I hope I'm not alone in my opinion, and also hope that the design really was a nod to Dr. Who.
@djzrobzombie2813
7 ай бұрын
What's up skid Marks?
@davidblyth5495
7 ай бұрын
These destroyers are big boats As I said to one of our admirals, when a sailor carries his kit aboard the vessel from the quay at high tide, it should count as at least part of a fitness test!
@TheGonzogibby
7 ай бұрын
Did you tell that to your admiral in Angola, Blythy?
@DownUnderDigitals
7 ай бұрын
@@TheGonzogibby Your Iranian friends are absolutely useless.
@Misterskillzz7
7 ай бұрын
Ships
@davidblyth5495
7 ай бұрын
@@Misterskillzz7there's often a debate about that. We often refer to our ships as boats.
@MoltenGriefing
7 ай бұрын
How powerful are those big cannons on the ship
@bobthebomb1596
7 ай бұрын
Roughly equivalent to a 105mm artillery piece but with a higher rate of fire.
@MoltenGriefing
7 ай бұрын
@@bobthebomb1596 wonder if it would ever really get used nowadays. Couldn’t imagine them shelling the shoreline
@bobthebomb1596
7 ай бұрын
@@MoltenGriefing I have argued something similar, especially when fitted to specialist vessels like the T45 and T26 frigate. It's hard to imagine either being risked in a naval gunfire support role. That said, I am certainly no expert and I have heard arguments in their favour.
@kiereluurs1243
7 ай бұрын
Watch the video.
@franzmenzies5268
7 ай бұрын
@@bobthebomb1596 Remember the Falklands. Frigates and destroyers were both risked to support soldiers going ashore. So their specialty matters not, it depends on operational need.
@humphrey4976
7 ай бұрын
Why are they replacing the mini gun with the browning
@MM22966
7 ай бұрын
The gatlings are cool, but they need power to operate, eat ammo like crazy, are more mechanically complex (higher failure rate), and have a shorter range than the Brownings. Also less punch on a per-round basis, which may matter if the target is armored/has a thick hull.
@maneshipocrates2264
7 ай бұрын
A complex ship
@vganad3739
7 ай бұрын
Ulterior motives need to be seen as they are.
@PhyllisGlassup2TheBrim
7 ай бұрын
According to the news, we can't *afford* to keep shooting down drones.
@michaelmacdonell4834
7 ай бұрын
That radar system, though.
@HexaSquirrel
7 ай бұрын
At only 48 cells, she's going to run out real quick. Definitely one of the more naive decisions when designing the T45 was choosing such a low cell count.
@user-xn6qf7dt2t
7 ай бұрын
Then she sails away and re-stocks........Pretty good when combined with supply ships.
@1chish
7 ай бұрын
a) that is why there are re-supply ships around and b) its also why an extra 24 cell Sea Ceptor silo is being fitted.
@taiwandxt6493
7 ай бұрын
Well I mean, not really a naive decision as unit cost was a consideration when it comes to these designs. Adding more cells would've made the unit cost of each destroyer more costly to construct.
@soulsphere9242
7 ай бұрын
Reportedly the USN doesn't have enough missiles to fully arm its destroyers and cruisers, so its kind of pointless having 96 or 122 cells.
@SCscoutguy
7 ай бұрын
@@PepRex they don't resupply missiles at sea though. That has to be done dockside.
@wojna-info
7 ай бұрын
How much cost one missile?
@garcia12773
7 ай бұрын
So Frakkin cool
@danielbb8570
7 ай бұрын
Keep safe everyone
@Rob-vv5yn
7 ай бұрын
I’m picking at some stage the UKs missile supply will be depleted at this rate, what’s the rate if manufacture, if it’s like storm shadows the supplier just can’t suddenly triple production suddenly. I presume they are using more missiles than cheaper weapons as often the incoming drones and missiles will be likely most of the time out of range of these systems.
@LondonSteveLee
7 ай бұрын
Penny pinching that ends up costing us billions - the usual British way.
@ztyy8185
7 ай бұрын
Yes it is sustainable. Just to operate this ship costs a lot. No gain from letting few missiles to get old and get replaced. If military fulfils its function i.e. project the power, etc. Then job well done. Most militaries are not shooting their arsenal in anger, but in training. And still they are funded, cause they fulfil their purpose. So much more a warship which is using its arsenal to secure shipping lanes. So yes, it is sustainable.
@ztyy8185
7 ай бұрын
@JimCarner This is called learning. Very valuable experience. Now there is hard data to lean on. Insane? sure, sanity was never militaries strong side. Effective? oh yes. And that is what matters.
@autoclearanceuk7191
7 ай бұрын
but they cannot stop 20 men in a dinghy landing on kent beaches.
@FP194
7 ай бұрын
Actually CWIS ammo is titanium not lead
@johncook3817
7 ай бұрын
Great looking vessel! The Royal navy at its best!
@RonLWilson
7 ай бұрын
BAE's APKWS laser guided rockets might also be added in that they are much less expensive that a typical guided missile. One might Google Ground-launched precision with the APKWS® laser-guided rocket l BAE Systems
@Ps5GamerUk
7 ай бұрын
Directed Energy Weapons are the future , much cheaper still
@jjohnson796
7 ай бұрын
It’s seems like adding Ranger class magazine ships with moduler air defense packages to partner with the type 45 destroyers wouldn’t be a huge problem. The Sampson radar is the key to that system, it just needs more ammunition for sustained engagements.
@class2instructor32
7 ай бұрын
@@JimCarner Yeah its easy just buold a time machine & add all that stuff so its already on there now.
@class2instructor32
7 ай бұрын
@@JimCarner Its hard to do while on station.....
@class2instructor32
7 ай бұрын
@@JimCarner they would need to go somewhere (Thats not the red sea or wherever the other ships are already busy) to be changed.
@ataxpayer723
7 ай бұрын
"Fit CIWS guns" That ship already has the Phalanx CIWS. SOYCE: Wikipedia. Since the end of FY 2015, the US Navy has upgraded all Phalanx systems to the Block 1B variant. In addition to the FLIR sensor, the Block 1B incorporates an automatic acquisition video tracker, optimized gun barrels (OGB), and Enhanced Lethality Cartridges (ELC) for additional capabilities against asymmetric threats such as small maneuvering surface craft, slow-flying fixed and rotary-winged aircraft, and unmanned aerial vehicles. The FLIR sensor improves performance against anti-ship cruise missiles, while the OGB and ELC provide tighter dispersion and increased "first-hit" range; the Mk 244 ELC is specifically designed to penetrate anti-ship missiles with a 48 percent heavier tungsten penetrator round and an aluminum nose piece. Another system upgrade is the Phalanx 1B Baseline 2 radar to improve detection performance, increase reliability, and reduce maintenance. It also has a surface mode to track, detect, and destroy threats closer to the water's surface, increasing the ability to defend against fast-attack boats and low-flying missiles. As of 2019, the Baseline 2 radar upgrade has been installed on all U.S. Navy Phalanx system-equipped vessels. The CIWS is designed to be the last line of defense against anti-ship missiles. Due to its design criteria, its effective range is very short relative to the range of modern ASMs, from 1 to 5 nautical miles (2 to 9 km). The gun mount moves at a very high speed and with great precision. The system takes minimal inputs from the ship, making it capable of functioning despite potential damage to the ship. Like the naval (1B) version, Centurion uses Ku-band radar and FLIR to detect and track incoming projectiles, and is also capable of engaging surface targets, with the system able to reach a minus-25-degree elevation.The land based Centurion version is reportedly capable of defending a 0.5 sq mi (1.3 km2) area. One major difference between the land- and sea-based variants is the choice of ammunition. Whereas naval Phalanx systems fire tungsten armor-piercing rounds, the C-RAM uses the 20-mm HEIT-SD (High-Explosive Incendiary Tracer, Self-Destruct) ammunition, originally developed for the M163 Vulcan Air Defense System.These rounds explode if they impact a target, but if they miss they self-destruct on tracer burnout, greatly reducing the risk of collateral damage from misses.@@JimCarner
@MrHistorian123
7 ай бұрын
The type 45s are due to be upgraded to enable them to carry another 24 missiles in a "hot" situation.
@RonTodd-gb1eo
7 ай бұрын
It Is like using single use gold plated fly swatters to get rid of an infestation of flies.
@RJM1011
7 ай бұрын
Great ship the problem is the UK has only sent one to cover the Red Sea and save the container ships from being sunk and the order for the other new ships of the same type was cancelled by the UK Gov. Also these same ships are needed to protect the new aircraft carriers when they are at sea.
@zipz8423
7 ай бұрын
Imagine if we had built units 7&8 of the D class… When Diamond is relieved to replenish her VLS, we done have another T-45 available to fill in - that’s why we have sent 2 T-23s with Sea Ceptor - a great weapon but much less capable than Aster, however good enough against subsonic cruise missiles and drones which are the primary threats. Luckily the Houthi ballistic missiles have shown zero capability to strike moving targets at sea.
@TypeRyRy
7 ай бұрын
75 rounds.... PER SECOND. 😮💨
@BigDaz
7 ай бұрын
Why are the miniguns being replaced with .50 machine guns?
@graveperil2169
7 ай бұрын
mini-guns jam too often
@luzr6613
7 ай бұрын
The Cool Factor.
@anonymous4gent
7 ай бұрын
yes, it is pointy enough.
@spectre8_fulcrum
7 ай бұрын
wouldve gone hard in the 1800s if it was full on naval warfare
@juanlugo3982
7 ай бұрын
Plus that gun shoots down drones
@schlirf
7 ай бұрын
Uh, Royal Navy? Suggest you get some "Chicken Shields" on those MGs and Miniguns. Why take chances?
@Jin-Ro
7 ай бұрын
You can bet the minigun is being replaced because the bean counters saw the bill for the bullets.
@clangerbasher
7 ай бұрын
It's very cheap really compared to missiles and medium gun rounds.
@SCscoutguy
7 ай бұрын
It probably more has to do with the .50 BMG being able to out range the 7.62 MG134 and it inflicts much more damage.
@BinnyBongBaron_AoE
7 ай бұрын
What's the cost of our missiles vs their drones though?
@eyeofthetiger6002
7 ай бұрын
Drones are taken with those Phalanx guns while those expensive Sea Ceptor missiles were employed to take out the Iranian supplied antiship missiles.
@orbytl2799
7 ай бұрын
you wouldnt be worrying about the cost of missiles v drones if them shipping lanes keep getting disrupted 🤣 you would be worrying more about the cost of living and i highly doubt they are firing missiles at drones 🤣
@kirishima638
7 ай бұрын
Even the most advanced ship can’t be in two places at once…
@mcgherkinstudios
7 ай бұрын
7.62mmm…. Bisto!
@hog8035
7 ай бұрын
Freedom 🇬🇧
@donaldpetersen2382
7 ай бұрын
Lol @ 1:50 you can't claim it's technology advanced and then fail to expand on it
@steveconnolly2693
5 ай бұрын
very detailed and ac
@iancassie9840
7 ай бұрын
ante emp ,? torpedo ?, anti scalar that travels at 7x around the globe per second and can completely SHUTDOWN ANY ELC TRICAL ENERGY . OR TOTALLY DESTOY AND BLOW UP ANY STORED ENERGY OR COMBUSTABLES ?
@teeanahera8949
7 ай бұрын
Those 30mm Oerlikon cannons could do with a little protection, drones can be air burst these days. I know they’re uncrewed but an airburst could easily damage the weapon.
@01aldouk
7 ай бұрын
That is why the Oerlikon is the 3rd line of air defence....
@mickramo498
7 ай бұрын
they got more cheap drones than your expensive missiles
@muhammaddwinanda7939
7 ай бұрын
Seriously, why drone Houty more powerful 😮
@juanlugo3982
7 ай бұрын
They got the American aircraft Carrier strike group to shoot down drones. Their job is to shoot down missiles. They know If it's a drone or a missile💪🏾
@dereklonewolf9011
7 ай бұрын
Can't you find the source of launch & launch your own strike ? 74+ ♠️ hunter Yorkshire expat
@jordannikkas3866
7 ай бұрын
HMS Diamond's
@tamthebam1000
7 ай бұрын
Where are the rest of the world on this
@Happy-go-luckyno
7 ай бұрын
What happened to dragonfire ? We suppose to be able to shoot drones down for £10 ??
@Benjd0
7 ай бұрын
Dragonfire only had its first test in the last few weeks, it's a long way from being used on deployments.
@RickyPlayingGames
7 ай бұрын
is this real by now 13 of January this ship is on fire? HAHAH
@harpomarx7777
7 ай бұрын
Formidable warship!
@BernardVisagie
7 ай бұрын
These missiles are just sooo expensive to shoot against a tiny drone, you need a more cost effective way.
@RR-us2kp
7 ай бұрын
How about leaving?
@lancewood1410
7 ай бұрын
Americun airforce shoots balloons.....brit navy shoots drones....Now THAT'S progress :)
@LondonSteveLee
7 ай бұрын
It's a shame Cameron's government cancelled the RADAR guided 4.5 inch gun smart airburst mode which could have been dealing with these drone threats cheaply with a replenishable-at-sea asset. Penny-pinching that has cost us millions already.
@NeilFH
7 ай бұрын
Apart from seeing the guns and missiles work it was a pointless exercise and a reckless gamble.
@user-xn6qf7dt2t
7 ай бұрын
Get the direct energy weapons out for the drones and dumb missiles.
@martinwilby8942
7 ай бұрын
whats the cost of a missile compared to the drone
@karlhofmann1446
7 ай бұрын
What's the value of the drones target?
@acengineer737
7 ай бұрын
What’s the value to the uk economy if the all those container ship can’t unload their cargos in British ports?
@mvella257
7 ай бұрын
The problem is Iran.
@noahway13
7 ай бұрын
I swear that video at the beginning looked like a cheap video game. ?
@karloyu3484
7 ай бұрын
✌️👍
@Kondasnaker
7 ай бұрын
✌️✨✨✨
@DavidSanchez-lp3si
7 ай бұрын
Ya spending millions on cheap drones is not a good idea. We definitely need to come up with something else .
@amsamsamamsamsam8022
6 ай бұрын
Britain is withdrawing its destroyer from the Red Sea because it was subject to 3 different attack from Yemen, the destroyer previously been fired at several times by missiles and drones from yemen who also claimed to have damaged the vessel. But Britain is removing it due technical reason cos the ship cant coup with the Yemeni missiles. These ship are obsolete since they built, their technical problems is immense rendering them to be more in harbour for rectification of defect than being operational, they are useless in the gulf region in summer, they cant coup with heat, but if they works they are good, and we talking of 4th stronger navy in their world wawooooooo.
@dsplabusc
7 ай бұрын
200,000$ missile shooting down a 1000$ drone. Who is paying for this? Is this sustainable?
@orbytl2799
7 ай бұрын
the cost of the disruption to the shipping lanes would outweigh the cost of the missiles
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