I like how gura can come in anytime Niji does something and just mop the floor with statistics
@Outlaw7263
3 ай бұрын
Yagoo: tactical shark deployed
@notusneo
3 ай бұрын
The shork is just that powerfull
@TheStarbane
3 ай бұрын
That was basically my reaction. "Oh? Shark is streaming again? Oh wait, Niji debuted some new people. She was made to come back EXACTLY in that period of time (no, I dont believe it's a coincidence), just to prove to them, that she has better numbers"
@konnen7354
3 ай бұрын
Yagoo be like: *Deploy the sassy child*
@lizlizbianrosethornsword
3 ай бұрын
@@Outlaw7263Yagoo: Nijisanji is down and currently doing something stupid. We need to take advantage. Shark I need you to wipe the floor with them So Desu ne~ Gura: As you command best girl Desu~
@WhaleCostume
3 ай бұрын
The main reason I never got into Niji was because there's too many of them and it's kinda messy with people leaving left and right. Hololive is starting to get a little crowded now, so it's a good idea to slow down on debuts. I only watch the new gens via clips since there's too many to keep up with...
@Tsurf
3 ай бұрын
I remember there was a time was vaguely interested in Niji as a whole when I saw Towa collab with someone from the NijiKR branch and they were just pinging off of each other like they were old friends, so I thought, "Hey, when things get less busy, lemme scope NijiKR, if Towa likes this one, they gotta be good people." Then the Mass Graduation and shut down of NijiKR happened, and ALL INTEREST in Niji died. Graduations are sad times, but a Mass Graduation? Nah, something happened behind the scenes and at the time, I felt like the company screwed up something fierce. I only know their individual talents through their collabs with the VTubers I follow, and I like the people I see. The company itself just has bad vibes and the news I've been catching from NijiEN's compounding screwups, it made me a little sad remembering some of the talents that took part in the HoloNijiEN collabs that happened a while back and how much fun they were.
@UltimateGattai
3 ай бұрын
Yes, definitely slow down on the Holos, while I love Hololive, it's too hard to follow everyone I like. So I'll probably just stick to who I watch now if they add more.
@caoi08
3 ай бұрын
@@UltimateGattai same here. Though I follow every holomem, i usually watch animated clips or clipped videos and if it's a live streams, I only watch when I have the time to watch.
@ainzer2903
3 ай бұрын
Yagoo know his customer and community. Sasuga Best Girl
@kidrobot.
3 ай бұрын
yeah that makes no sense and is a personal problem you have
@aariff_b.
3 ай бұрын
Riku:I thought you and me the same! Yagoo:No.I am just better than you.
@flyingfish7787
3 ай бұрын
Yagoo “ I can sue you for defaming me like that, yacht boi.”
@shepherdsgamingrun
3 ай бұрын
Imagine YAGOO doing the Gus Fring meme...
@jamesche7496
3 ай бұрын
Fun fact they were together on an interview live talking about the future of their company, and at that time, Holo is still a startup while Niji ady ahead of its time, but look at how the table turns
@AszkalonOfVerra
3 ай бұрын
Nijisanji : You're just like me !! :-( Hololive : I'm not just like the rest of You. I'm stronger. I'm smarter. I'm better. I AM BETTER !!! I'm not some weak-knee'd RACIST Crybaby that goes around, apologizing all the time. And WHY the the f~ would You want me to be ?? Nijisanji : But Hol~ooo- !! :-( Hololive : DON'T YOU *"but Holo"-* me !! You CHOOSE to be vile, racist and pedantic. You can't expect me to be the same. Nijisanji : Okay Holo let's to to Commercial- Hololive : Don't You *D~AARE* go to Commercial, Niji !
@azurerider812
3 ай бұрын
@@AszkalonOfVerra eh, what's the reference?
@TheInnocentRabbitofCaerbannog
3 ай бұрын
Quality over quantity Something rare nowadays with big corpos
@maxis2k
3 ай бұрын
Everything Yagoo is doing is basically the opposite of how a committee/corporation would do it. And I fear the shareholders are probably chomping at the bit to replace him for that very reason.
@mechadeka
3 ай бұрын
So what you're saying is we need more Star Wars series
@NerissaRavencroftJailbird
3 ай бұрын
@@maxis2kAnd I am sure in his very soul he wouldn't allow that to happen. A Chan I vote as the next in charge after Yagoo retires.
@aznravechild6i9
3 ай бұрын
@@maxis2k the shareholders can whine all they want, but less than 15% of Cover's stock is public, and that was only done to create the new studio. They couldn't oust him if they tried.
@maxis2k
3 ай бұрын
@@aznravechild6i9 I hope you're right.
@rancidiot
3 ай бұрын
Niji accelerate and focus on quantity Holo: hold off and focus on support and quality
@Shiroya_Rumika
3 ай бұрын
In some way, we gotta thank Nijisanji for their contribution in the Vtuber Industry *How not to screw up your Vtuber Agency like we did by Nijisanji*
@Xedigon
3 ай бұрын
Nijisanji eating poisonous food so that we know is poisonous and not to eat it
@BeforeON3
3 ай бұрын
Nah bruh. No thanks to niji they just greedy money grabbing
@AszkalonOfVerra
3 ай бұрын
Nijisanji is just a cheap, shady Copy. A typical Example of *"Evil can never create something. Only corrupt and destroy."* Hololive does everything it does nicely. Nijisanji instead is the grumpy, petulant, grouchy Child in the Corner Nobody wants to play with, so they hire cheap People like Uki Violeta who OPENLY bring their mentally deranged Racism into the Show and everyone is just like *"what the f~uuuu-"* 😂🤣😂
@jaredjosephsongheng372
3 ай бұрын
Yeah 😅
@DoNotSin
3 ай бұрын
@@BeforeON3the comment is a joke of "what to NOT do" and "giving others a treasure I cannot possess"
@smokinggnu6584
3 ай бұрын
Quantity vs Quality.
@ricardohoang8452
3 ай бұрын
Quantity is sinking sadly
@lizlizbianrosethornsword
3 ай бұрын
Hololive knows what they are doing fr! Hololive: Suffering from Success and see Doki wanting to include Holostars? Yagoo: Sou Desu Ne~ Nijisanji is down Deploy the shark. Gura destroy them. Also Holostars lads make me proud! Gura: Yes best girl Yagoo Desu~ Holostars Boys: As you command Boss. For debuts? They make it a rare occasion which makes them special so people will get hyped for them Sasuga best girl! Nijisanji: Releases new wave hoping to pass Q4 not thinking about anything else. Leaving Vivi out of Tekken & NBA but Claude gets it? No favortism at all!
@Hibiiiiiinbunny
3 ай бұрын
Tbh i kinda thought that yagoo actually commanded gura to stream whenever nijisanji do shit.
@AszkalonOfVerra
3 ай бұрын
Don't be like Nijisanji. Be like Hololive.
@Op_Gator
3 ай бұрын
You know what so funny about it? A few days back, when I was watching Hololive stream, (replay, I think?), there was ad break and this ad was showing a new wave of NIJISANJI en members. I was like, laughing at it, cause of the situation they are in. So that was their strategy to bring the audience back by having new members join the black company.
@zayd4078
3 ай бұрын
"tHeRe iS nO fAvOrItIsM iN nIjIsAnJi 🤪🤪." -Sucks Akuma, 2024
@CapsLock690
3 ай бұрын
Funny thing is that NBA Collab was Fake so yeah the regular Niji L
@Zombie-Hunter
3 ай бұрын
I love the smug Botan thumbnail.
@flyingfish7787
3 ай бұрын
Poi😂
@TPixelAdventures
3 ай бұрын
Poi! 💣
@anthonynguyen1289
3 ай бұрын
Kay Yu sighing in relief he might be able to get all of Holo in now
@DianaProudmoore
3 ай бұрын
...and there's the 4th Gen with a metal chair~!
@abednego_1254
3 ай бұрын
since the beginning i always preferring Holo's way on producing talents more than Niji's "talents" mass production
@DanielGonzalez-vo5ni
3 ай бұрын
Same I liked some Niji talents they've all successfully graduated or been terminated for the most part (cries for Rosemi) but Hololives way of giving gens time to breath on their own and get their own audience even instituting a collab ban for the first month (think its been shortened to 2 weeks going off current data) has definitely seemed like a more sustainable model with Kuro it just always felt like throwing darts and if some succeeded great but also we have more darts
@AszkalonOfVerra
3 ай бұрын
Nijisanji is just a cheap, shady Copy. A typical Example of *"Evil can never create something. Only corrupt and destroy."* Hololive does everything it does nicely. Nijisanji instead is the grumpy, petulant, grouchy Child in the Corner Nobody wants to play with, so they hire cheap People like Uki Violeta who OPENLY bring their mentally deranged Racism into the Show and everyone is just like *"what the f~uuuu-"* 😂🤣😂
@ranapriliaful
3 ай бұрын
What daniel said were correct. There is also another matter. The audience will losing interest and cant keep up with so many new gen that appears soo fast. Since they have new gen in a matter of months, each new talent had difficulties to build fanbase. Since they cant made their channel grow.. they recruit more vtubers to cover up loses. Probably....
@NicoDoesLP
3 ай бұрын
I think there are tons of talented people in Niji, and it's unfortunate for them. Yagoo is just way better at fostering a really good atmosphere for a talent to flourish. I remember shortly after Nene debuted, she actually cried on stream because she thought she had no personality. Now look where she is. She's come into her own entirely and everyone adores her. Yagoo and management just knock it out of the park
@井河さくらGoBeyond
3 ай бұрын
Reverse Nijisanji sounds like a power word.
@lizlizbianrosethornsword
3 ай бұрын
Indeed. Not only that Gura alone can literally wipe with the entire Nijisanji EN CCV.
@IDESTROYER236
3 ай бұрын
Power word: Testicular torsion.
@romanthegambler6966
3 ай бұрын
Ijnasijin - sounds like a Hindu philosophical concept or a town somewhere in Persia
@thegloriouswizard5270
3 ай бұрын
I CAST: *Power Word: Reverse Nijisanji!*
@BNuts
3 ай бұрын
@@romanthegambler6966 Reminds me of the _Simpsons_ episode with the reversed message to 'join the Navy.'
@Redd93
3 ай бұрын
I can imagine someone at Cover simply picking up a book titled "Don't Do What "Nijisanji" does."
@jesusmen6308
3 ай бұрын
Good. It’s a honestly terrifying thought thinking of a Talent calling Biboo "Biboo-Senpai"
@YubelTheLovingDefenderForever
3 ай бұрын
the horror 😱
@jesusmen6308
3 ай бұрын
@@YubelTheLovingDefenderForever we must never let that Rock hold any kind of Authority on a young, impresionable Generation of vtubers.
@TPixelAdventures
3 ай бұрын
Meanwhile ReGLOSS Banchou: Leads her own gen, speaks incomprehensible baby-talk. XD
@cortesyes
3 ай бұрын
Pretty sure regloss do that
@danangraph1910
2 ай бұрын
Oh boyy, u're in for surprise rn 😅
@SubliminaIMessages
3 ай бұрын
it's a smart move really, dont wear yourself thin and build on what you already have; something that nijisanji needs to learn
@SuperButcherPete
3 ай бұрын
This makes the most sense though. How many of Hololives' talents and the in jokes and memes within their communities do I know even though I don't watch them? Honestly, they seem connected because the rapport is there. I feel like nijiEN could have had that. The collabs between the first four gens of EN were so free spirited and off the cuff. They could have been their own thing, but they operated in the interest of the shareholders and the company instead of properly managing the talent and working for them. It's so sad cause for the first few waves of EN, nijisanji really had something. Can't help but feel for the newer talents they're debuting
@KANNA-CHAN
3 ай бұрын
im so happy that nijisanji lost 40% stock in the last 6 months, but im even more happy that they lost 30% in the last 5 years
@flyboy6392
3 ай бұрын
I think a lot of the agencies that started out with an idol focus are now realizing it's less about churning out VTubers and virtual idols and more about content creation/fostering the right kind of fanbase. Don't get me wrong, when I have the means to, I intend to try my hand as a VTuber with an emphasis on gaming and reaction content, maybe a couple of song covers for funsies. Beyond that, if I get offers by an agency, I intend to do as much research as I physically can.
@hageby123jean1
3 ай бұрын
Same 🤌
@RejectHumanityReturn2Monke
3 ай бұрын
My mates paid for the Gamers Fes stream this weekend and the Yoyogi arena was packed, for sure 10k++ in attendance plus the tens of thousands more watching on stream. Niji could only hope.
@Zibit21
3 ай бұрын
Finally! I was wondering how many new VTubers can they produce.
@dracotias
3 ай бұрын
honestly Holo could make a KILLING by just "doing a Love Live!". They have enough musically inclined talents so just shove a bit of story between the songs and boom! instant hit.
@leonmystique9372
3 ай бұрын
It would be even wiser to let our current talents find their calling and increase their audience. They already have enough VTubers as it is, so while having even more VTubers is an option, it would be best to celebrate their success by letting it increase rather than pulling a Nijisanji and hire more talents as they are sinking even more.
@dracotias
3 ай бұрын
@@leonmystique9372 ...I mean I just meant "hey, an Idol anime would be neat"
@leonmystique9372
3 ай бұрын
@@dracotias We already have several, though. While not Hololive related, we already have several idol animes.
@siriusblack6527
3 ай бұрын
We are going to have Holo Magical Girl anime and their mascot is voiced by famous Japanese VA 😂
@leonmystique9372
3 ай бұрын
@@siriusblack6527 Ah yes, there is that too, can’t wait for that to pop out
@ReiseLukas
3 ай бұрын
Nijisanji keeps triping on the trail Cover: you know what? I think I should go take that other trail instead
@justaguy_yt1240
2 ай бұрын
The new trail: *the literal sidewalk of the same trail*
@21BearPapa
3 ай бұрын
It's a simple approach really. Throwing everything and see what sticks just exhausts the resources. As well as gives the current employees the sense that what they're doing isn't enough for the company. That doesn't just apply to Vtubing but anything business related.
@ianimations1656
3 ай бұрын
I'll watch vtubers when dreamworks finally mans up and makes the shrek vtuber we've all been asking for.
@aquapendulum
3 ай бұрын
Actually, hololive is just NOW learning the same lesson that VOMS Project practiced since the very beginning: Very focused lineup, super slow to roll out new gens and give their talents plenty of time to build audiences. Riku is young and still has to learn a lot, Yagoo is a little too old to learn this lesson, but Gyari is the real savvy guy in the business.
@gitamic2287
3 ай бұрын
There's a need to balance development of individual product and expansion of product lines for market captures. VOMS has slow growth which should allow them to survive industry turbulences and it does give the talents the dedicated support to feel appreciated. Although looking at Gyari treating it as personal project, the talent growth first approach is more likely because it is a side business for Gyari as he list himself as a illustrator/designer/music creator. Having too many talents means extra staff and more overheads.
@anasazhari4498
3 ай бұрын
Based on the investor's meeting report, he really was trying to invest as little as possible and betting on banking on the most profitable talents. It is as bafflingly ridiculous as it sounds.
@aquapendulum
3 ай бұрын
@@anasazhari4498 Eh, if it sounds stupid and it works, it ain't stupid.
@theepicslayer7sss101
3 ай бұрын
the only member or Nijisanji i knew of was Nina Kosaka, Pomu and Selen Tatsuki, i am sure they got more but those are the only ones i seen. (only know of them cause i saw them in collabs, and for Pomu, she played MSG and Selen played StarCraft.) i know on average 2 or 3 members from each hololive gens and not just EN, (i know most of not all of EN) i mean i know members of JP in hololive, and i don't even watch Vtubers since 2019.
@gamrage
3 ай бұрын
Hololive collabs with Baseball. Nijisanji collabs with Basketball. Nijisanji fails. Hololive focuses resources on existing members. Nijisanji hires a bunch of new members even when their stocks are record lows. Nijisanji fails. Hololive puts their talents first and will usually try to protect them from scandals. Nijisanji bullies their talents to the point of attempting to un-alive themselves. Nijisanji fails. Hololive treats all their talents equally and fairly. Nijisanji gives special treatment to their favorites. Nijisanji fails.
@Shiirow
3 ай бұрын
Less is more. Quality not quantity.
@KingJH0510
3 ай бұрын
Back when i was really into hololive it was definitely super exciting to see new members. Every new generation was like pokemon, it was just rare enough, the quality was super high and it felt like a once in a lifetime event Like i still remember being there for chloe's first livestream and everyone going crazy when she took off her mask Ive since fallen out of watching hololive religiously so i dont really care what they do, but it is nice to see them focus more on quality and horizontal development
@Marky-Mark1337
3 ай бұрын
When it comes to talent, that is a point where you hit diminishing returns. Guess hololive reached that point and stop. Business 102.
@DoktorJammified
3 ай бұрын
And with too many people you start to dilute the talents
@TyrantWesker
3 ай бұрын
@@DoktorJammified But Niji doesn't care about that because they don't pay their livers a salary. Thus, EVERY streamer they debut ends up being profitable because they spend literally nothing on upkeep once they debut. The model itself is the only thing they have to pay for, so once that's been paid back, they don't have any reason to care how well anyone does.
@gamerguy425
3 ай бұрын
Hololive could do with ONE more wave of EN and ID in good time, or some new regions like an EU branch but their Japanese branch is so huge I don't think they need a a new wave really. Some of the smaller agencies also tend to grow too quickly and they just end up spread too thin.
@MugiwarasNakama
2 ай бұрын
Imho. I think a new gen should debut into each branch atleast every year and a half. This gives members a possible career span of ten years which is the normal amount of time imo for a career as a vtuber should last. Eventually almost every vtuber starts to burns out. But niji is like nah let's just like lets crowd everything up and not give our livers any room to breath. Not just debuing 3 gens in a single year but opening branch after branch. That destroyed the quality of not just their talent but also their management and production teams.
@lizlizbianrosethornsword
3 ай бұрын
Hololive: Suffering from Success and see Doki wanting to include Holostars? Yagoo: Sou Desu Ne~ Nijisanji is down Deploy the shark. Gura destroy them. Also Holostars lads make me proud! Gura: Yes best girl Yagoo Desu~ Holostars Boys: As you command Boss. For debuts? They make it a rare occasion which makes them special so people will get hyped for them Sasuga best girl! Nijisanji: Releases new wave hoping to pass Q4 not thinking about anything else. Leaving Vivi out of Tekken & NBA but Claude gets it? No favortism at all!
@seyfrain
3 ай бұрын
Cover: Shonen genre where everyone is working together to be the best version of themselves Kurosanji: A fcuking battle royale
@fierytheknight4150
3 ай бұрын
It's unfortunate too, it looks like any Niji talents are just being treated like a number, if they put more effort into the individuals in their roster they still have, they just might repair even a fraction of the damage they've already done. Please correct me if I'm wrong, of course, I haven't been keeping up-to-date with Niji nowadays since it all went downhill, but they still have what looks like a few good names in their roster like Vanta and Rosemi.
@dantenotavailable
3 ай бұрын
I remember thinking on the last anycolor financial results that that number of debuts can't be healthy for the company or the talent. This only confirms my thoughts.
@glens2019
3 ай бұрын
The niji talent are so numerous I have subscribed to three without realizing they were niji.
@imimori
3 ай бұрын
This makes sure that IF cover DO decide to debut new talents in a very rare occasion it is Special and a huge thing.
@eunhyuekpark6159
3 ай бұрын
Really glad Hololive is slowing things down a bit and reinforcing their current talent and their platform. Really goes to show they care a lot about their talent and staffs. They already have an incredible roster and I would love to see some of my favorite veteran streamers reach 1M. Aki Rosenthal *wink *wink.
@Sachin1671
3 ай бұрын
I work full time mostly and so I don't have time to sit and watch most lives so I mainly get to know the vtubers from clips and stuff. I felt like lately Hololive is becoming crowded where there are a lot more emphasis on the new gens and I feel like less people are clipping some of the old I liked. So them making this decision was pretty smart and quite nice in my opinion. With them focusing more on the overall quailty of each of their talents I would get to see more of everyone and that sound great.
@SmytheVT
3 ай бұрын
Would love to see more anime and games with them, looking forward too it.
@misterturkturkle
3 ай бұрын
thats exactly what theyre doing with holoalt and holoindie
@MK_ULTRA420
3 ай бұрын
Botan's on that Dune Spice in the thumbnail lol
@Pigeon.HoloClips
3 ай бұрын
that happens in other similiar company as well. when there's two or more same type of company, and one of them is messed up, the other compay will use it to learn what best they could do. so in one side the enemy company will be failed and the other companies will be rising using that first company as a stairs. so its like double L
@KiritoZero2
3 ай бұрын
Botans smug face as thumbnail fits perfectly.
@amirulsufyan
3 ай бұрын
So basically they going quality over quantity
@underthepale
3 ай бұрын
Remember: In the JP space, the joke is, "Niji's main content is graduations."
@tsurara6820
3 ай бұрын
Cover found a loophole!! Yes they wont debut new idol, but no one said they wont debut new "manager". Have you see Nodoka stream and her 1st colab with Azki few days ago? Her voice is beautiful
@Metaknight180
3 ай бұрын
I feel the same way. I've got plenty of Vtubers to love already, it'd be hard getting into more of them.
@ShadowZabre
3 ай бұрын
Seriously, Everything he says is proven by Gura and Ayame. So damn popular that they can stream once a month and out perform anything the entirety of Niji makes in the same month. He wants every one of the talents to have fan power like that.
@corndoghead1
3 ай бұрын
Its almost june looking forward to the funavial reports
@SimpleToasty
3 ай бұрын
im so glad they're halting auditions because I can't keep up with all of them, not that I need to.
@ChildrenOfDesire
3 ай бұрын
We had Kendrick vs Drake, now we gonna have Yagoo vs Riku
@_arealla
3 ай бұрын
Like the old Sega ads; "Hololive does what Nijishould"
@TheHadzir
3 ай бұрын
Honestly this is the problem for nijisanji since long ago, and i think everyone can agree riku tazumi clearly prefer quantity over quality
@luiseatoll6368
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, sounds pretty good. The gamble with this, however, is how you'll build the talents. We're at an era where anime acan get hyped af but fall off before it could even finish. We also get games that gets hyped but hardly remembered. Each attempt isn't a cheap expense and while it's better than spamming talent, it would also mean that the talents may have little time to stream.
@Surepeaa
3 ай бұрын
i used to sign up for an audition for nijisanji and oh boy, did i fumbled a big one
@leonmystique9372
3 ай бұрын
You dodged a bullet there
@jaredjosephsongheng372
3 ай бұрын
Wow that's nice
@Surepeaa
3 ай бұрын
@@leonmystique9372 i dodged a nuke
@Notorious224
3 ай бұрын
@@Surepeaa but streaming to 1k people and making some money is 1000x better than streaming to 0 people making no money. the other options are extremely limited too. At the end of the day it's still a multi-billion company that has the resources to make big changes/fixes.
@Surepeaa
3 ай бұрын
@@Notorious224 have you heard of the controversy, ye i ain't doin that shit
@hellothere9167
3 ай бұрын
I kinda feel sorry for the new debuts in nijisanji but collareral damage I guess
@sin_wraith
3 ай бұрын
Nijisanji's day is always Opposite Day
@Suc-Chii
3 ай бұрын
And to be fair keeping the number of debuts is a wise move given that it gives them a sense of niche and rarity compared to niji’s nonstop debuts making them seem like a sweatshop factory constantly mass-producing generic avatars. While Hololive gives this feels like they are creating well thought characters and the fact that they are few make them memorable and more unique.
@Uehahahara
3 ай бұрын
Given how Cover was limiting the number of times their talents were allowed to use their studio, due to schedule limitations, I guess this was a reasonable outcome. You can’t invest money to have more time, instead you have to increase the number of employees, equipment and/or space. And I believe that will be exponentially more expensive each new Gen, to keep up the quality and not disrupt their present talents. I can’t imagine how much work it takes to manage all these talents to do debuts, anniversaries, 3D streams, live attendances, merch, collabs, single/album releases, etc.
@t.kersten7695
3 ай бұрын
the "inverse NijiSanji Strategy"? this should be topic in economic classes worldwide.
@Damian_h
3 ай бұрын
Analyzing what is happening with Niji is super interesting and how a chain of unfortunate events can literally make u go out of business. Like they say devil is in the details.
@darrche5129
3 ай бұрын
Dumb people don't learn from own mistakes and repeats over and over again. Clever people learns from own mistakes and don't make it again. Genius learns from other people mistakes and never makes it. Guess where Niji and Cover lies? Easy right?
@Arthirias
3 ай бұрын
I agree with the strategy, but I would still try to pick up former VA for Kizuna Ai and Mirai Akari. They should absolutely focus on a Hololive anime, Legal Mindset had it right, if they stick the landing and bridge anime with Vtubing, they are going to get a massive new audience.
@cabbage_cat
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, they're sitting in a good number of talents now. Though I still think that it's still a little bit too many. But slowing down on hiring talents is a good idea now.
@Crytica.
3 ай бұрын
Will this also count for Regloss? Seeing as they are a different branch to Hololive but both fall under Covercorp. I did notice already though with Advent, Regloss and Tempes certain comments popping up that Holo is starting to become a bit too big and that some fans would prefer more time on the gens we have now rather than saturate the branches even more (Minus Regloss since that's a new thing entirely). I for one like this approach. I know Kiara has complained about it in the past that she wished Cover would do a bit more in certain aspects and I think going this route as mentioned in the letter is exactly what she wants and what other Holo members could benefit from.
@AeronHale
3 ай бұрын
I like the approach they're taking as well. I'd rather see existing Hololive members thrive even more and keep watching them than have to try and keep up with a bunch of new ones. Especially since I watch a lot of non Hololive vtubers as well.
@keystrix3704
3 ай бұрын
Holo already hasa massive cast and the spotlight. This is both a smart and practical move when the market is already packed.
@TyrantWesker
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, it honestly makes more sense to debut new talents sparingly from now on, mostly to fill the gaps left when other talents retire or get fired. For every five that leave, you can debut one new generation, keeping the overall number of talents mostly static. It makes way more sense than shooting for the fictional infinite growth. YAGOO knows that there's a realistic limit to how many talents they can meaningfully support at any one time, unlike Riku.
@keystrix3704
3 ай бұрын
@@TyrantWesker Pretty much. I think it's pretty clear that the target audience cap has been met as well, meaning growth will likey be slower from here out. It's mostly gonna be a tug-of-war for people's time now.
@durandus676
3 ай бұрын
I didn’t give a shit about the last holoen generation until I saw the sisters had returned after they left their last gig as a night shift drug/guard dog pair. The market. Is SATURATED.
@gitamic2287
3 ай бұрын
If they develop the talents more they could get more sponsorships as a individual brand. Ie. Gura is huge so companies are getting her and not getting a vtuber talent named Gura from Cover vs the Niji-NBA collab is getting Niji audience to watch NBA and not getting the talents' audience to watch NBA. I wonder if Niji chose the collab talents based on ccv, although they chose the NijiJP due to their experience with JLeague collab in the past. And the collab might simply be more merchandising schemes to milk the fanbase.
@waderodgers3397
3 ай бұрын
I think this is a great idea. Hololive right now has enough livers so that everyone can find a personality they like but also not so many that you get lost remembering them all. It's a really good balance and so a really good time to focus on making them all bigger.
@ManusiaKagakRusuh
3 ай бұрын
I wish they atleast completed the Elysium first ... TempusHQ from Northen Elyssium, TempusVG in Southern Elysium, Armis from Western Elysium ... We still need a group from Eastern Elysium and the lore complete ... -and Holostars ID-
@giantmess4335
3 ай бұрын
Niji biggest problems are not Vtuber debuts but making sure their stars don't end up bankrupt and facing debt when they are literally getting money, Every person so far who left Niji all said the same thing, The managers didn't do shit, Niji soaked up money but only for those at the top, they have no idea what it means to make people famous in any regard and they also have literally made people not be able to do work they had been doing like voice acting and such that would have bolstered the views of said talent in the long run. It is a load of shitty management on top of a load of shitty management and it is insane how they cannot see this.
@movespammerguyteam7colors
3 ай бұрын
Okay, that’s actually very funny. Learning from the mistakes of others is a good way to not make the same mistakes. It’s like they learned how to LEARN.
@kuuluna
3 ай бұрын
Two strategist, one is more respectable than the other
@Matunex13
3 ай бұрын
Thats actually something that people always wanted with Holo when it comes to new branches (and maybe the reason why they speedrun with Stars EN). Vtubing requieres to engage with the streamer and sometimes watching VODs is not the same felling. Leaving that aside, with new gens comes new internal jokes that are created in the midle of a 5 hour stream and so. Sure, its has a problem when you are waching a holo for STREAM and most of them are in preparation for holofest/3d/summer event and you have to watch something else in the meantime
@brianwalsh1339
3 ай бұрын
I mean it’s a meme that Hololive wins by doing nothing…
@SleepingPanda700
3 ай бұрын
Nijisanji is basically a MCM now, not a Vtuber agency
@RichardHardslab
3 ай бұрын
It looks like a really solid approach
@sbatou87
3 ай бұрын
Holo: *uses Vicious Mockery* Niji: *gets hit with 60+ points of psychic damage*
@KatsumiKawa
3 ай бұрын
Too many talents hard to handle not like hololive they not spamming talents.
@thomasway0320
3 ай бұрын
I imagine them looking at Nijisanji and went “Yeah we ain’t doing none of that, we’re not that dumb.”
@skullkid325
3 ай бұрын
they should make a shitty smash clone with all the girls and call it holoversus
@guiltyspark7308
3 ай бұрын
I guess people are cranking out more Nijisanji jokes then they are of Craig Thompson (Miniladd) jokes. 😆
@Dhalin
3 ай бұрын
A sound and reasonable strategy. Quality over quantity. A thousand vtubers means that each one is only going to have a handful of viewers, but a half-dozen vtubers who have all the resources and connections they need to maximize their creative potential is going to have millions of viewers each. The latter is going to make _way more money._
@mitchellalexander9162
3 ай бұрын
You cant Churn out MOAR if you lose all momentum and Respect and enthusiasm for your Brand. The Horde Tactic Broke when the illusion of desirability did.
@rkade1486
3 ай бұрын
The words "don't do whatever ____ is doing" usually results in people just not doing whatever ______ was doing, very rarely does it ever result in someone going "if I do the complete opposite of whatever _____ is doing, I'll do good."
@ark14700
3 ай бұрын
SHareholders, we will DeoplY the Shark
@masterbaiter3807
3 ай бұрын
"more vtubers, more money for the yacht" -Niji probably
@SciRei7H3dEG3NeR4T3
3 ай бұрын
I think the creepy but understandable difference with IRL idols and virtual idols is that IRL idols eventually age. It's been around 5-6 years since Hololive blew up, so when you think about it, if one of their talents from early days debuted at the age of 21, they're probably 26-27 now, which in Japan, a lot of people find strangely less appealing. And that's the big thing why Nijisanji is losing now. They're pumping out new idols/vtubers with that idol culture mindset, while Hololive seems to be putting that idol culture mindset on hold, and instead helping grow their current roster.
@abednego_1254
3 ай бұрын
the real person may aging but the character doesn't. heck, chances that some of them are already over 30 irl but as long as they can play their characters well, i think no one would complain.
@shiggy7612
3 ай бұрын
@abednego_1254 yeah like actually botan the oldest more then marine
@flyboy6392
3 ай бұрын
I think Cover is learning to treat virtual idols/VTubers as more of a streaming and content creation culture mindset similar to what I've seen from VShojou; don't get me wrong, when I have the funds to get into VTubing, I'd probably like to stay indie but collab with agencies unless I can discuss my contract with an attorney on my side present. I have issues with a pretty large chunk of the companies, but at the same time, I'm not so anti-corporation as to ignore the benefits of being a member of an agency. I'll just make sure to do my research and weigh the pros and cons the best I can
@saltyismymiddlename97
3 ай бұрын
This reminds me of pekomama first stream 😂. They know its housewife behind the avatar but they still enjoy the companion. If I were able to say, there is many thing that differentiate idoling rl and idoling vtuber one of them is your rl age and appearance are not the main attraction.
@-yeme-
3 ай бұрын
was always looking like the sensible strategy, if not the inevitable strategy. even hololives last couple of gens havent seen the kind of huge initial growth their senpais got during the boom years. more and more waves of new faces isnt going to work.
@nickkorkodylas5005
3 ай бұрын
_>treat their talent like a literal human being_ Look man, I am not saying anyone should be like niji but let's not get crazy!
@SatoshiKenji
3 ай бұрын
Riku Tazumi still sitting on burning NIji HQ while kept mumbling 'this is fine'. Meanwhile, YAGOO sending Gura to be that sassy child that doing a selfie in front of Niji HQ.
@maxis2k
3 ай бұрын
It's a good strategy. When the last two groups were added by Holo, I and many people I know where already voicing that they were getting a little over saturated. I obviously ended up liking the new people, based on my avatar. But if they added more right now, I just don't think I'd be able to follow them. I already can't keep up with everyone like Gen 0 and 1 and ID.
@Ryzen776
3 ай бұрын
I think the EN side still have place for a new gen, but the JP side is absolutely overcrowded.
@AhaxD-r7g
3 ай бұрын
While Niji bought Yacht and increase their cannon fodder to fill Riku's pocket, Holo has been expanding their reach with their new studio, game and their metaverse project to keep their talent relevant for a long time.
@mildlydazed9608
3 ай бұрын
it'd be cool if I could hear what's being said but I guess I'll just go read twitter posts myself. didn't even reach 50% volume through this whole clip and I'm not changing all my audio settings for a single channel :/
@SenrihinThrall
3 ай бұрын
So customize your volume per application and keep the master slider at 50% or whatever range works for you.
@mildlydazed9608
3 ай бұрын
@@SenrihinThrall I’ve done that already and that’s why I was annoyed and said I’m not changing my settings for a single KZitem channel lol
@SenrihinThrall
3 ай бұрын
@@mildlydazed9608 Ah, I see. Well, there are other channels that cover the same subjects in longform videos with better quality and commentary =)
@michaelpatterson7990
3 ай бұрын
This strategy makes sense. Some of the less popular members, by Hololive standards, often blow up when they start having well covered moments back to back. Aki is really starting to get out there and Mel was on the same track as she seemed to be everywhere last year. I think Gura is at around 4.5 million subs at the moment, so a great question for Hololive is "How do you turn the eyes that are already on your company into more engagement with other members as well?" Sometimes the members are great but they just lack exposure, and once that exposure comes people realize that they're the sort of streamer they enjoy watching. Events like the festivals and the MC Hardcore Pekora just organized work greatly to generate such moments. Same with VCR events.
@TyrantWesker
3 ай бұрын
Niji, on the other hand, just writes you off if you don't instantly go viral, since they have no long-term strategy.
@atomixfang
3 ай бұрын
As long as Korone, Miko, Nene, Pekora and Marin are well taken care off Ill be supporting hololive.
@yukimisouzou3036
3 ай бұрын
Too many talents = less workable environment, bcs there will b too many competition within the company n can become kurosanji/black company.
@HansenSebastian
3 ай бұрын
Wait until holo goes the Niji path but still gets a balanced profit (a win-win profit).
@yukimisouzou3036
3 ай бұрын
@@HansenSebastian well seeing their plan, doubt they will go down that road. Besides they r still winning in profit
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