Please visit my channel page: kzitem.info/rock/G5Ph9Mm6UEQLJJ-kGIC2AQ Want to talk to me? Join my Discord Server: discord.com/invite/DXnfBUG Just a remark on the video - I am talking about keystone, but the system I am using is LSA - thanks to u/gaupe75 for pointing this out on reddit !!!
@Burnman83
3 жыл бұрын
Three additions to your video, specifically about punching down the lines into the patch panel: 1. Especially when you use higher quality cables, Cat6a and such, you will have an additional shield around each pair. Leave the pairs drilled and the shield around it as close as possible before the punch-point to avoid any kind of cross talk between cables and max signal quality. 2. Do yourself a big favour and follow Marc's tip about a good punching tool. I always recommend the "Krone" ones. The thing is, a cheap one is 15€, a proper Krone one is 35€. That is 20€ for a really big chunk of lifetime and grey hair you are getting back for just... well 20 bucks. Do it, trust me. 3. When you have all those snapped off cable pieces in your patch panel, don't just wiggle the panel as Marc did, but instead use a vacuum cleaner. You will first of all get them out a lot more reliable (and wiggling is not that easy if your patch panel is already inside a rack) and second of all, the vacuum will pull out all the single wires that have not been proplery punched into the socket so you immediately see which ones you definitely have to do again.
@Burnman83
3 жыл бұрын
Me again: On a second look, I saw that Marc is actually using a Krone tool to punch down. I can only say this is industry standard, if yours is not working properly or if it is not cutting reliably, this can be for two reasons: Either the tools is already old and the included scissors are not sharp enough anymore, or (and that is the much more likely problem) the sockets are of not such good quality and thus the distances that they keep the wires in are not accurate and thus the tool does not work intended. I can only tell I used a lot of those Krone tools in the past and a lot of cheaper and more high quality patch panels and the reason for crappy results using such a tool are usually the sockets!
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
That’s incredibly useful feedback, many thanks - awesome!
@ricdonato4328
3 жыл бұрын
Very informative, yes I learned much. Very good demonstration, thank you for sharing. It is beyond me why KZitem content creators play music in the background. Music quickly becomes extremely annoying noise. Remember, we came to hear and understand you not fight music. Many folks have hearing difficulties, having background music is not helpful. Think of it in this way, you are in a business meeting, while the speaker is talking someone then turns on music about the volume of the speaker. Folks would become quite miffed thus demanding for the music being turned off.
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Ric, my newer videos don‘t have background music 😉
@jochenk.4062
4 жыл бұрын
"For my younger viewers..." Awesome! :-D
@OneMarcFifty
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you ;-)
@exploringcooking5612
3 жыл бұрын
My son other day saw a wall phone and asked what the heck is it. When I said it's a phone, he asks me where is the screen. That was hilarious
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Very funny 😂
@GavinM161
2 ай бұрын
Yep, that's what a 19" rack normally winds up looking like :-)
@ltonchis1245
Жыл бұрын
Entertaining to watch even though I'm not doing this project, but the sound of your voice makes it soothing Lol
@OneMarcFifty
Жыл бұрын
I get that one a couple of times ;-) Thanks for watching ;-)
@JosQiNgMT
2 жыл бұрын
So much details in everything. Thanks. Best
@OneMarcFifty
2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the feedback - happy you liked it ;-)
@bsmith302
4 жыл бұрын
Marc, love the networking videos. Shout out from Vancouver, Canada
@OneMarcFifty
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Baden, many thanks - that is very kind of you. Greetings from the other end of the world ;-)
@ThePwig
Жыл бұрын
It’s very easy to get the tools to adjust the size of the bracelet on your watch.
@OneMarcFifty
Жыл бұрын
Ok - thanks for the comment ;-)
@pascalmartin1891
Жыл бұрын
19 inch switches are expensive.. A central switch also means a lot of Ethernet cabling. Even considering the performance bottleneck that comes with sharing a single cable, I use a center star + satellites network topology, with 8 ports switches everywhere (lowest cost per port). The installed wall cables support 2.5G, so an upgrade path will be available in a few years.
@diacritic8508
Жыл бұрын
Switches by purchase price: 19 inch switch > 8 port switch > old wifi router with 4 Gbit ports that makes a perfectly stable managed switch In terms of running costs, more cabling means zero additional running costs (cables don't ask to be fed) while eg. an old wifi router turned into a 4 port Gbit switch with wifi disable will still draw about 3W. And while a few watts of energy consumption doesn't seem much, it adds up quickly if you run a few of those switches 24/7 (something like 10 EUR/year) as opposed to buying more ethernet cables instead to be able to run less switches at home. Keeping the number of switches low and doing more cabling can be more cost effective after all if more cabling is an option in your home at all.
@pascalmartin1891
Жыл бұрын
@@diacritic8508 "zero additional cost" is not totally true. The "green ethernet" switch spec indicates that the shorter the cable, the lower the consumption. So a center switch uses a max amount of power to maintain a good signal/noise ratio, while same-room switches use much less power. You still have a point, considering that any switch has a fixed base power consumption.. but the balance is not as obvious. In addition I have a secondary firewall that protect a "private" network without WiFi, where our desktops and backup NAS are. The iot equipment and home theater stuff are behind the first firewall, where the WiFi is, a DMZ of some sort. This also lead to a star + satellites topology.
@diacritic8508
Жыл бұрын
@@pascalmartin1891 Thanks for pointing this out, I definitely haven't thought about longer cables making ethernet switches to consume more energy. If you have switches with green ethernet sticker and have cable runs close to 100 m this might be something to account for. In my home, I only make like a 10 m cable run to do 20 m instead so nothing close to 100 m and I believe a green switch wouldn't save enough on such short cable lengths to be easily measurable. But point taken, might be relevant under different circumstances. Also, I think not many people do this, but the greenest device is a device switched off when not used and you can simply switch off your home networking gear when not used eg. at night or nobody's home. There are some services you want to run 24/7 like security cameras, home automation etc. but those are typically low power and you can save almost 1/3 of your energy bill by switching the rest of your home network off for the night. Not sure if this "2 tier" home network service concept has a name, but I do something similar running only low power basic services 24/7 and in my case the energy saving is quite significant as I serve the second tier eg. NAS, desktop OSes etc. on a workstation with virtualization using Proxmox.
@pascalmartin1891
Жыл бұрын
@@diacritic8508 I have to admit that I do not know what cable lengths are significant from a saving point of view. I might check, just for fun. My trunk cables are 10m, except one is 20, while the satellite cables are between 1 and 3m. I also use a smart wifi plug to switch some of the computers off. Then the green switch consumes next to nothing for these ports, according to the user manual. Rather than using virtualization, I use multiple raspberry pi, except for the security video server (which I plan to replace). A regular PC uses too much energy, a switch is little in comparison.
@OneMarcFifty
Жыл бұрын
Great discussion, it's true that there are many other points than just the purchase price to be taken into consideration. The TCO ("Total cost of ownership") is difficult to calculate in advance though because power and MTBF go into the calculation.
@aryan-orionbelt2037
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you . You are god of technology .
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you - but I can assure you that I am a simple human 😂😂
@redsanders8754
3 жыл бұрын
Note for future viewers - this video assumes you already know what you are doing, and just want to build an inexpensive network. It is NOT for beginner DIYs! And since I AM a beginner DIY, I'm moving on.
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, many thanks for your feedback! I am sorry that the video did not fulfill your expectations - I would just love to understand better how you found the video in the first place (did you do a search on youtube or was it suggested to you?) and of course what you were looking for or - in other words - which parts were missing ? Many thanks for your help.
@matchke1
3 жыл бұрын
Patchpanel??? Nevermore! Keystone. That’s how it’s done today.
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Well, you know - I'd say that depends on the use case and also a little bit on the environment. If you have 10 outlets in wooden walls then keystone. If you have 40 cables in concrete I'd still go for LSA.
@MohdFaeqFairosRosli
3 жыл бұрын
Very Usefull info and standard
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks ! ;-)
@milanajjar122
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome - Thanks for watching!
@GeorgeTJ
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Marc. A few questions if you don't mind: 1.Can you reuse those keystones on the patch panel in the future? 2.Can that patch panel accept wires of cat7 (and upwards) or will they be very thick and rigid to accomodate? 3.What's the exact model of the patch panel you use in the video? Many thanks and keep up the great work. It's only a matter of time until you gain thousands of subscribers! (y)
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, many thanks for your feedback and questions! You can reuse the free slots - just make sure you leave enough spare cable so that you can take it out of the wall again. In theory you could patch Cat7 onto a Cat5e patchpanel, even though it might be challenging because the wires are thicker, and the pairs are shielded etc. Exact make and model - honestly, I don't know... I just bought the cheapest on ebay 12 years ago ;-)
@GeorgeTJ
3 жыл бұрын
@@OneMarcFifty Thank you. I meant the punched down connections, can you open those keystones and punch down new ethernet wires in the future? If that's not possible then a modular patch panel might be a better option. Great insight once again!
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Ah Ok I see - yes I‘ve done that before - of course if you do it 10 times they will probably wear out but it is possible.
@GeorgeTJ
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@ThiloSchweizer
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Marc, great video. I like the historical lesson... :-)
@OneMarcFifty
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Thilo ;-)
@hetesaude1159
3 жыл бұрын
very good
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot ;-)
@damp6067
3 жыл бұрын
What is patch panel? Do we really need one for home networking?
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, many thanks for your comment! A patch panel is the point in the house where al cables come together. You don't necessarily need one but you can have one. Please also see the other comments or the second episode kzitem.info/news/bejne/yH6azoOcgoxinGk where the question is answered ;-)
@aliakbaramirkhani3265
4 жыл бұрын
great content... by the way i got one question some guys on youtube promote the idea that no need pachpanels for small homes .. i am confused :(
@OneMarcFifty
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you ! I would say that it is not so much the size of your home that matters but rather the number of cables or outlets that you want to connect. If you have to pull 3 cables then a patch panel might be overkill. If you have however to connect 20 or 40 devices then you will quickly be lost without. A a rule of thumb I'd check the number of connectors on your WAN router. Typically there are 4 connectors. If you have more devices then think of putting a patch panel in. If you have 8 or fewer then a smaller model might be OK. For more than 8 I would definitely go for a 19" patch panel. I hope that helps.
@RockSingh
4 жыл бұрын
great video!
@OneMarcFifty
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much.
@sailendrasandeep
3 жыл бұрын
Can we use metro Ethernet switch as normal switch in order [Modem ->router->switch ] ?
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sailendra - well - in theory you could, provided that your metro switch has an ethernet port and also knows how to route stuff etc. but - honestly - that's a bit off scope for the average home network user... What's your use case behind this ?
@sailendrasandeep
3 жыл бұрын
@@OneMarcFifty Thanks for responding. I mistakenly brought the wrong online. NSH-5509SV-TS20 www.volktek.com.my/usr/product.aspx?pgid=4&id=21&grpid=15
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Isn't that just a normal managed switch after all ? I mean, it's got Ethernet ports so - yes - looks good to me ;-)
@arthurnunesc
4 жыл бұрын
Very good video!!
@OneMarcFifty
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much.
@adiflorense1477
3 жыл бұрын
Sir, I like your video. I want to ask why even small companies at home also need data centers these days?
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for your feed-back! I don't think that small companies really need data centers. Even less at home. What I do think however is that a structured cabling in the house makes a couple of things easier, e.g. throw in a second access point on another floor etc. To me personally, the benefit of having "some" IT at home is mainly two things: First, I can provide a certain number of services to my family such as stable internet, Video on demand, share photos etc. and second, I admit it is a kind of "playground" for me where I can test stuff and play around with it - yes, I'm a techie ;-) Ultimately, in my opinion the choice if you need any of this is up to everybody on their own - you _can_ have it (because the stuff is available and affordable) but you don't have to ;-)
@adiflorense1477
3 жыл бұрын
@@OneMarcFifty thank, but I ever seen small room contain network device and cable at small company e.g small bank, startup, small hospital, IT consultant, health clinic etc. so what the purpose of that small room. Is that small room just for easy management their network?
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
I'd say it is just a matter of putting the stuff "somewhere" - in an Ethernet environment typically the cables come together at one point (it's a "Star" shaped architecture rather than a "bus" architecture) - that's the main reason. The cables just come together at one point. Typically this is the location where you would connect central equipment to such as a server or a router. Furthermore, you do not want everybody to go there and maybe disconnect cables and take down your network. So you want to have a certain level of access control. Hence the reason this equipment is typically in a room that can be locked.
@adiflorense1477
3 жыл бұрын
@@OneMarcFifty Great answer. Thank a lot sir. One more question, is that ok if small company dont have one point place to put their network device on to rack server because of limit budget.?
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
@@adiflorense1477 Well, I can't really recommend on "OK" or "not OK" - the reason is that you need to evaluate yourself what it means. Ask yourself the following questions: What happens if something catches fire ? You might circumvent just by switching devices off at night etc. What happens if somebody pulls a cable ? Can the devices/hard disk/PC be stolen more easily ? It's mainly around security and/or safety. If you can cover those or if they are of no issue then go for it.
@davidlokyto2605
3 жыл бұрын
I wanna ask, are patch panel really needed? Can i use directly from the router to the switch then distribute it to devices (such as pc, smart tv etc)
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Hi David, you can go without a patch panel. The second episode answers your question: kzitem.info/news/bejne/yH6azoOcgoxinGk
@guilhem3739
3 жыл бұрын
That is crazy that the phone at 6:00 is considered as an antiquity ... I feel so old.
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Oooh Yes. I know that feeling. I thought it was pretty awesome at that time to have buttons instead of the ring dial. But hey, ageing is totally OK. There are few alternatives anyhow ;-)
@dorianascomedy
3 жыл бұрын
How do I connect the router to the network
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dori, there are many options. You mean connect to the Internet right ? It depends on where you live. In some countries, the phone providers offer DSL connections. Cable TV providers tend to have internet offerings as well. Alternatively there are 4G Routers which enable you to hook your network up to a 4G based internet connection
@frankbaron1608
2 жыл бұрын
any network rack that isn't a mess just isn't professional. :)
@OneMarcFifty
2 жыл бұрын
I love that! I have just made too many efforts of being unprofessional ;-)
@frankbaron1608
2 жыл бұрын
@@OneMarcFifty oh yes. in my shack, if there isn't at least one tripping hazard, i'm doing it wrong. ;)
@ziksanizuz8590
2 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you for this video. Can someone advize me, which type of cable is best to buy. I plan to wire it through the wall in my 3 rooms. My Internet speed is around 150 Mb/s.
@OneMarcFifty
2 жыл бұрын
I'd personally go with CAT6 or even CAT7 wires these days even though you can get Gigabit Ethernet with CAT5e - but in the lights of POE (thicker wires) I'd consider CAT7. Even if you just patch them to a (cheap) CAT5 panel.
@ziksanizuz8590
2 жыл бұрын
@@OneMarcFifty Thank you, what about type, is UTP good enough?
@OneMarcFifty
2 жыл бұрын
@@ziksanizuz8590 I use CAT5E UTP in my house - works fine - if you use CAT7 it will always be shielded. Now if you have a 400V heavy machinery next to the wire then you might go for shielded.
@ziksanizuz8590
2 жыл бұрын
@@OneMarcFifty Thank you, no i have nothing that heavy 😅, i will go with cat6. I plan to put router and switch on attick, and wire everthing through Attick down to rooms.
@Burevestnik9M730
3 жыл бұрын
what is the purpose of the panel?
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Basically structure. If you only have 2 or 3 cables running through your house then you would not really need it. I have more than 20 so I definitely need it in order to not get lost in the maze ;-)
@Taylor1147
2 жыл бұрын
GET TO THE CHOPPA!
@OneMarcFifty
2 жыл бұрын
I'll be back ;-)
@dorianascomedy
3 жыл бұрын
Will I pay an ISP
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dori, usually that would be your phone or cable provider. But it depends on the country you live in.
@dorianascomedy
3 жыл бұрын
My friend said she doesn't pay ISP But I don't know how to setup a home network without paying ISP
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
@@dorianascomedy I am afraid that I don't know neither, sorry. I am paying mine. But maybe you ask your friend how he/she is doing it ?
@DivineMisterAdVentures
Жыл бұрын
The nano-second you said "rack mount" you immediately quadruple the price of what "a Bargain" is. You must be related to Bill. I admit to a lust to have something so nicely organized and consistent - but I cam to learn how to build a network for $99.99. You promised. Now - continue. Don't let me down.
@OneMarcFifty
Жыл бұрын
Hi - I haven't thought about this to be honest. I personally prefer to buy stuff second hand - hence the purchase price is always lower (at the expense of not having warranty etc.) - but yes, you are right. Hadn't thought about a 100$ Limit yet though - that might be a tough call. Even though - an old Wifi AP, using it as a switch plus maybe a thin client or old PC with a larger SSD as a small server. I'll give it a thought ;-) Thanks for the feedback!
@DivineMisterAdVentures
Жыл бұрын
@@OneMarcFifty Everybody has an old desktop they didn't throw out or give away that just got obsolete - I have two - one that is still used for graphics - anything of modest bandwidth. It's got a big monitor and I can use it for teaching like a visual aid during calls or videos. And a fast laptop that replaced it. I also have a laptop for carry. That's before I get to android devices. I just need to share files and have a single repository for organizing and to back up. Shouldn't be this complex. Internet by cell phone hotspot is part of the deal. I think we're all brainwashed. I think there must be a simple solution that costs less than $99.99 like switch and cables and open software. Sounds like a good title in there somewhere.
@DivineMisterAdVentures
Жыл бұрын
@@OneMarcFifty Now that I know what to search for I immediately found a year-old Linus demo that actually uses my own #2 desktop - so hey - I might save $999.99 cause I even have a box new router-switch I never used. Your Old PC is Your New Server - KZitem, kzitem.info/news/bejne/24aj15aqhKmlmqw
@KhalidAlazmi
4 жыл бұрын
No need now for this all only Gabi link Wi-Fi 6 Router
@OneMarcFifty
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Khalid, I am not sure if I understand correctly - are you suggesting that a Wi-fi 6 router makes a cabled installation obsolete ?
@borgirlol
3 жыл бұрын
who even needs gazilion ports for home network ? Like seriously, 99.9% regular people have basic wifi router maybe 1 PC via lan and rest devices go via shitty wifi. Whats next 2021 enterprice racks for every home right ?
@OneMarcFifty
3 жыл бұрын
Point taken - however - you know - I am not telling anybody _what_ to do, I am just showing _how_ to do things. That's what all how-to's do. In essence it's like giving a phone number to someone. It's better to have a phone number than not to have it. If you call it or not is up to you.
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