Although the Triumph Trident's looks are slightly more eye catching, I'd go with the Honda for all the "down the road " reasons. Parts availability, aftermarket possibilities, reputation of reliability, inspiring confidence and bang for the buck satisfaction. Honda motors are just that good, without hesitation to say so.
@SpringfieldFatts
3 жыл бұрын
As a previous CBR600RR and CB500F owner I respect Honda's quality and reliability. But as a previous Sprint ST and Street Triple R owner Triumph makes the more engaging machine by far. I think the Trident is the winner for me.
@bantononabike
3 жыл бұрын
Took them both. I thought it would be hard. But after 5 minutes on the Triumph, I was sold. It is just something special to ride!
@mrsilbo6499
3 жыл бұрын
Too hard to call, Dan, until you test them back to back. Looking forward to this one!
@naiboz
3 жыл бұрын
Honda all day long for me 👍🏻
@kennguyen3789
3 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer the look of the CB more, it looks more aggressive. Also it seems like the CB looks bigger? Can't say for sure about the size until I can get see one in real life. But the electronic and the torque of the Trident is tempting me!
@cradley1
3 жыл бұрын
Triumph I think but Honda reliability cannot be forgot.
@constantineco
3 жыл бұрын
Two beautiful bikes but i 'll wait to ride the new Moto Guzzi v7 with the 850cc engine.I love V2 sound.
@01mrlek
3 жыл бұрын
Styling is always subjective but I like the look of the triumph. Flatter torque curve lighter weight adds up to more easily accessible fun. I think the triumph would be the better first bike and the Honda maybe a better stepping stone for those who want to end up with a supersport.
@joniboy2522
3 жыл бұрын
CB650R used to be on my 2nd bike's list but since Trident blew the competition away, I can't get my thoughts out from it.
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
It sure is a beauty!
@joniboy2522
3 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan Triumph does know how to make such a bike. Plus, all the electronics with lower price instead traction control only. By the way, thanks for making a comparison video between CB650R and Trident 660. I can now own it with ton of reasons.
@jorelplay8738
3 жыл бұрын
I was set on Honda until triumph launched the trident. And since it will be my first bike, I don't really know if I prefer the in-line 4 or the triple. Can't wait for the "in person" comparison. Thanks for the video @EnglishBikerDan
@michaelevans1658
3 жыл бұрын
If you want reliability Honda all the way. My Triumph complete new wiring harness with 1200 miles on the clock .
@majordelays4909
3 жыл бұрын
Did you buy yet ?
@Jackkawouts
3 жыл бұрын
Nice content as always Dan, will looking forwards to the head to head comparison video, as im debating on which one to get for my first bigbike.
@captainaverage721
3 жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong with either, both excellent bikes 👍
@Jackkawouts
3 жыл бұрын
@@captainaverage721 thank you and yes I agree, just have to wait for the test ride on Trident after that should be an easier choice
@jorelplay8738
3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@johnDukemaster
3 жыл бұрын
Well done! They are both made in Thailand aswell. I think as a Honda owner, there's no reason for swapping. But if I were to buy one today? Hmm...the Honda brings me home every time. Not so sure about the Triumph, I'm afraid.
@martyshmanka
3 жыл бұрын
I was actually shopping for a bike and these two were at the top of the list. I never had either brand before, but I put a deposit on the Trident, sight unseen. The numerous reviews were just too good to ignore. And "character" of the bike was def a factor.
@blackvelvet70
3 жыл бұрын
Take a look on tuono 660,i think is the better on this category
@martyshmanka
3 жыл бұрын
@@blackvelvet70 Sure I saw that recently. Not my style at all, but tech-wise, seems compatible.
@SimonJessey
3 жыл бұрын
As I live in the United States, the Triumph probably has the edge because it is cheaper. I'd love to see an "RS" version with a few upgraded goodies though!
@TheTwinPost
3 жыл бұрын
Both these bikes are so evenly matched.... But where I live the Honda costs £1700 more than the Trident..... Add to that the Honda is only offered here with a detuned 87 bhp/58nm output which makes it really hard to justify the price difference.
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
That's a shame, hard to justify the price difference considering both are also made in Thailand.
@sportmuaythaiv1045
3 жыл бұрын
As owner of 765RS, and an ex owner of CBR650F, I'd give the Triumph a thumb up. I'm only 5'7", and weigh 154lbs. Also I consider myself an intermediate rider, and mot an advance rider. Bike's curb weight, and ride by wire is very important to me.
@sportmuaythaiv1045
3 жыл бұрын
LOL! ่ Just came across your previous clip "The New King Of Middleweight Nakeds" kzitem.info/news/bejne/lYFnuX1_sKV3ho4
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
@@sportmuaythaiv1045 😉
@Kodreanu23
3 жыл бұрын
I think it in the end it comes down to which is cheaper and which has better support in given country. I like Trident more, but if I was buying in my country it would be Honda.
@BrunoSantos04
3 жыл бұрын
I want a comparison in between cb650r, mt 07 and the trident since i can't pick one of them yet. I love the looks of the trident, and people say mt 07 is the most fun bike out of the 3. cb650r is the most complete of them all but lacks the mt 07 funny torque
@wickedleeloopy2115
3 жыл бұрын
The more retro xsr700 would be a better comparison.
@Banditmanuk
3 жыл бұрын
Think the Triumph has it for me, the power and torque are more accessible lower in the revs. The Triumph is lighter and lower suiting newer riders and has a better electronics package. Looks wise honestly I really like the Honda, especially those swept exhaust pipes and I think the Honda better suits a more experienced rider who will exploit the top end of the rev range. Be difficult to bet against the Honda as being the most reliable.
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
I think it'll be interesting in the head to head. I have a sneaky feeling though that the Honda will surprise us all in the torque department.
@1ridgy
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never ridden the Honda but I’ve just picked up my Trident 660 and so far (running it in) I’m well impressed with the torque, ride finish and handling. I spent £2000 on additional kit so a cheap bike wasn’t that cheap at the end of the day but I’ve got a lot of quality and bike for a modest amount of money.
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new bike. What on earth did you buy for £2k extra? I guess it adds up quick!
@NAKSUUUUU
3 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan in portugal you can add the 3 kits available and its around 10.550€ without documents or 9109,55£ which is what i will do when i buy one
@gerardscarface
3 жыл бұрын
The CB's sound is glorious im telling ya
@Carnimal_com
2 жыл бұрын
why do they all talk about the numbers i can get off the brochure, what's it like to run this thing? how much is insurance, spare parts? oil, tyres? how do they compare riding, for a newbie, veteran? whats the build quality? materials used? cost to import new parts, are they cheap and easy to obtain? do they have plenty of engineers in the country to keep the repair costs down?
@eldiablo9311
3 жыл бұрын
Honda front end looks fantastic with the gold fork and radial calipers,rear not so much. Fit and finish looks at higher level than MT07 or Z650. Stil not seen Trident live but I like the overall appearance and sound of the triple. In my country Trident 660 is £230 cheaper than Honda though.
@oretako
3 жыл бұрын
Love the look of the gloss gray cb650r. But think I’m getting the trident once I passed the Direct entries
@nickclarkuk
3 жыл бұрын
The grand premier of the EnglishBikerDan head to head of these two machines will be my most anticipated film 🍿 this year 👍. No pressure 😂
@neilhedley6080
3 жыл бұрын
Honda is the way to go
@richardpearson4248
3 жыл бұрын
Great video dan looking forward to next one stay safe 👍🇬🇧
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@rayb5394
3 жыл бұрын
USA price in usdfor the CB650R is $9,200, and Trident is $8000. We would compare to the new MT 09 based on price $9400.….
@BennyZ88
3 жыл бұрын
In Ontario Canada the CB and Trident are both going for $9500
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
I've never understood why Honda is so expensive in the US.
@surferdude642
3 жыл бұрын
The price of both is about the same at just under 8000 British pounds. This currently to $9600 US, close to msrp of the Honda. $8000 for Triumph? Doesn't make sense, but we'll see when the Triumph becomes available. I'm not disagreeing with Ray b, as I read the same, just not sure it's accurate
@st4rtnow238
3 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan they bombed hiroshima thats why..
@lukemiles1711
3 жыл бұрын
Both are great! I have a CB650R and could'nt go to another one. That screamer is just bliss on twisty roads. Tho the electronics of the Trident are better.
@capngeo2002
3 жыл бұрын
In the market for a new bike but family biz in Chicago for the winter, so no rush. Last bike was a 2017 FZ-07 on Hawaii Island aka The Big Island. Paradise on a Yamaha. Can't really see how one could go wrong either way. Never owned a Triumph and Trident looks like a great all-rounder. Have had Honda inline 4's that I loved. I want to hear more about 2021 MT-09 and SP version. Plus now the new Monster. Decisions, decisions?
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
It's an exciting time to be a biker. Even with the year we've had, so many bikes coming out.
@jamesroberts2480
3 жыл бұрын
If Honda had styled the bike like the new CB350 single they would have nailed it, but Triumph takes the style awards no question.
@Porsche996driver
3 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to compare freeway cruising. Can they cruise relaxed at 85 mph? Or are they both screaming at 9000rpm?
@jerronimo6874
3 жыл бұрын
My Cb650r feels wind only after 120kmh. Under that speed You will feel almost nothing. I've bought the GIVI windscreen and now I'm waiting for better weather :) anyway i had CBF600 2010 before and I was scared of naked bikes due to no fairing, no windscreen. However it is not that bad as everybody said. If You want to ride faster than 120kmh get good looking medium screen and thats all. ;)
@T4JQ3L
2 жыл бұрын
I'd also like to compare the reliability and cost of maintaining the Triumph vs the Honda. Can you give us your opinion on this?
@jitterball
Жыл бұрын
I just picked up a 2023 Triumph Trident, a few years ago, I owned a brand new CB500F. I'd say fit and finish is the same, I love the sound of triple and Triumph is extremely nimble, almost bicycle like! Service intervals are, every 10000 miles for minor and every 20000 miles for major.
@elegantinfusions
3 жыл бұрын
Now I have watched this video, I think it still has to be the Trident for me, main two decisions are weight and seat height as I am only 5'5".
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
That's fair enough Paul, Trident is a great bike. More Trident videos coming soon too.
@elegantinfusions
3 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan ok ,look forward to them, thanks
@denisjekim3822
2 жыл бұрын
Did u meant that trident has lower seat height than cb660r?
@caterinadenice4402
2 жыл бұрын
Proud owner of a CB 650R and I can assure you that this is the BEST choice I could have ever made between those two. The trident is still a very beautiful choice but appears to be a bit too feminine ...
@ahriman46
2 жыл бұрын
Which is superior in terms of build quality and choice of material for durability and corrosion resistance?
@Englishbikerdan
2 жыл бұрын
As I've not owned a Trident I can't say how well it would age, but both Honda and Triumph are well made on the whole.
@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged
3 жыл бұрын
Given the limited ride time you had for launch video, how did the axial mounted brakes compare to the radial on your Honda?
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
Surprised at how good they were. Will test a lot more when I can get a press bike.
@kkhalifah1019
2 жыл бұрын
The Trident gets my wife's vote, because it is unbelievably light.
@skanderkebaier1738
3 жыл бұрын
Legend. Been waiting for this. You who's driven them both, which one is your favourite?
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
Cheers! I'll need to test the Trident more before I make that decision.
@skanderkebaier1738
3 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan Please make a sound Comparison part.
@redash411
3 жыл бұрын
From what i have seen so far trident is a nice bike but in comparison to CB650 it's a no brainer i am definitely buying the CB and from what i have heard you cannot install aa after market exhaust on trident and it definitely needs one.
@jorelplay8738
3 жыл бұрын
Boi that belly is ugly on the trident
@blackvelvet70
3 жыл бұрын
No doubt trident is sexiest but cbr is more completed.
@AmritGrewal31
3 жыл бұрын
Most max speed limits around the world are barely 66% of what duke 390 is capable of and that bike is just 44bhp. 80 bhp is more than enough. I'd say it comes down to nearby service station availability. If you like to accelerate a little harder. Get CB650. Shift down and twist. Acceleration depends on bhp.
@GC8scooby
3 жыл бұрын
Acceleration depends on torque. Top speed depends on bhp
@glaviationcph
3 жыл бұрын
@@GC8scooby 🤦♂️
@AmritGrewal31
3 жыл бұрын
@@GC8scooby sorry mate but you're incorrect.. (sort-of) ... 1) bhp & torque are not 2 discrete variables, rather they are 2 sides of the same coin 2) you can't talk wheel torque and linear acceleration without considering gearing I rather not write an essay explaining the equations. (Pretty sure you wont be interested in that either) Go to video link I pasted. Jason on "engineering explained" explains it pretty well. kzitem.info/news/bejne/xJ6Y0JeYppOHd5g
@AmritGrewal31
3 жыл бұрын
@@glaviationcph Condescending reply, mate? Really? read my reply to Matt :) cheers 👍
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, which is why I seem to have more fun on the lower cc bikes.
@rayb5394
3 жыл бұрын
Benelli Leoncino, can you please do a review? (You'll need to move the gear shift lever down to keep false neutrals from happening 👍). Engine wise it's slightly more cc than a honda cb500f.
@adityakamble4680
3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me what is the ground clearance of the trident. Thats the most important thing for Indian road conditions.
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
I would say roughly 6 inches.
@jarthur1369
Жыл бұрын
the Triumph is a much better bike for new riders. Not just bcause it is lighter... but bercause of how they are designed. the Trident is torqey-sp meaning it will feel fulfilling going from 4000 to 5000 rpm and pretty much at any rpm. this is good for new riders. the Honda is asleep under 6000 rpm. so not only will new riders find themselves after a very short time up in the higher rpms just because the bike kinda wakes up. ...they will accidentally figure out what it means to "drop the hammer!" meaning you want to pass that car and you are doing like 4000rpm and you don't have the torque to do it fun or something... so you downshift throwing you into the power band and gun it. "wow was that fun" and just like that you are hooked. not something a new rider should be doing ...just my two cents.
@to87fin65
3 жыл бұрын
I have ride older honda cb and didnt like it. I have 955i speed triple made from daytona love the 3 cyl torque. So this is not hard to pick up trident from this comparision.
@jean-yveslegall2562
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats a Honda? That's why in moto 2 in 2019 Honda lost the contract versus Triumph for 3 years. Last September, Triumph was again chosen as the engine provider for another 3 year contract 😉
@shahfacekillah
3 жыл бұрын
The only reason I passed on the Honda is because I can't find an all black one. The black one they have has gold (bronze??) Accents. I can't stand gold, I think it's ugly. I have yet to find an all black one.
@MisterMaa
3 жыл бұрын
Honda forever!
@wickedleeloopy2115
3 жыл бұрын
Should have included the XSR700 for good measure.
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
I've never ridden one funnily enough. But it's essentially an MT07 with a slightly different fuel map and some body panels/lights.
@toofastnobrakes
3 жыл бұрын
Cb650r for me
@IronicIrony.
3 жыл бұрын
Many people mentioning reliability. I know Honda is notorious for its reliability but I don't know Triumph. Does Triumph bikes have bad reliability?
@rossm9676
3 жыл бұрын
Or the new monster for the same price as the Aprilia?
@HungNguyen-vi4rr
3 жыл бұрын
once you ride a Triumph, next bike gonna be Triumph, too.
@colindebourg9012
2 жыл бұрын
The Triumph makes the Honda look like a wheelbarrow.
@Englishbikerdan
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I'd suggest getting your eyes checked! :D
@PLRMoto
3 жыл бұрын
Build quality is going to be a massive part in this also. Honda bike will last a lot longer than triumph who are along the bike as cheaply as possible but marketing it as premium. So many faults with new triumphs.
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. One area Triumph have said they've really focused on with the Trident, is the quality of components. The internet is rife with stories of failures from many brands, but I take those with a pinch of salt as rarely do you get people going onto the interweb to say "My bike works fine". Obviously, only time will tell on this but in the flesh they look really good at least.
@bazitube390
3 жыл бұрын
just get yourself a mint second hand striple ez
@thejohnnerparty
3 жыл бұрын
I like both! :-)
@williammckinlay5191
3 жыл бұрын
For me it’s definitely the trident, I love triples and dislike 4’s.
@freebehindbars8654
3 жыл бұрын
4 cylinders are not ideal for street bike imo.
@stanleyblazeraznik6047
3 жыл бұрын
.....for styling ..... some things beat a Triumph.
@alec-s
3 жыл бұрын
Honda hands down
@eminakyuz4419
3 жыл бұрын
never be the first buyer on a new product. :D
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
I was first with the new CB650R. No problems here 😁
@subscricoesmotard7288
3 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan that is aHonda... No prolems explianed 😁
@eminakyuz4419
3 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan Thats why we are watching you :D
@TheF4llen77
3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or do you sound somewhat different than before?
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
Do I? It's still me. Maybe I was holding a fart in or something.
@TheF4llen77
3 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan lmao, but yeah maybe it is just me afterall lol.
You throw a comparison and you dont have any of the bike ...LOL
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
I own the CB650R and I've ridden a Trident. Next! 😂
@hooeetube
3 жыл бұрын
Both of these bikes are beautiful. For reliability, though, nothing beats a Honda.
@RonaldPlett
3 жыл бұрын
Damn right. Ive worked in a motorcycle shop for years and I can confirm that
@threepot5874
3 жыл бұрын
And 'bland'
@bakeredwards
3 жыл бұрын
Very true, heard some horror stories about Triumphs customer service dept. Otherwise I may have preferred the triumph.
@mat199622
3 жыл бұрын
There is additional point about dealerships. I imagine that in UK you will be fine with Triumph but for me it would be 1 or 2 for the entire country. I really don't fancy a 4 hour drive for service just for the 3 cylinder sound.
@bakeredwards
3 жыл бұрын
@1Scuter I'm more of a Yamaha fan but Honda is the one company were you can get a longer aftermarket warranty on a secondhand bike, I imagine they've done their research.
@paulcreasey5037
3 жыл бұрын
the trident looks great but i would rather a nice triumph badge or logo than the big tank graphic
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
The big graphic is on two colour options, and there are two without.
@photographerjonathan
3 жыл бұрын
you rode the Triumph all day but you give us no insight in this comparison. only specs. I guess your saving it for the next video. I had a test ride of the 2020 Honda 650 fairing version. and to me the bike didn't have enough low end. and it had the typical Honda feeling which I call milk toast. nothing exciting. so I am interested in the Triumph, but I am still waiting for something other than those first reviews which all sounded the same. I have been riding bikes since a little kid. and I have owned big sport bikes. and I consider myself a really good rider. without being pro level. and I am considering the Triumph. so it really annoys me when every video that came out about the Triumph calls it a bike aimed at the beginner market. when I was growing up. a beginner bike was a 175 enduro, or maybe a CB350 Honda. but now a bike that would rip apart any bike from the past. is now being called a beginner bike. to me a Yamaha R3 is a beginner bike. not a 660. anyway it would be nice to see this bike compared to the Mt07. another so called beginner bike.
@aunoates6617
3 жыл бұрын
Excactly, when testing a sports car, the reviewer never says this is a great beginner car before moving on to a Ferrari or McLaren!
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
If you want more insight into the Triumph you can watch my first ride review. Riding a pre-release Trident for a few hours on perfect roads in mostly perfect weather isn't a fair comparison. This is why I've said I'll need to wait until the bike is released in the UK for a proper in-depth review and comparison.
@photographerjonathan
3 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan I want more insight into the comparison, not just the 660. I already saw 20 videos of the Trident and they are all the same.
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
@@photographerjonathan I've already said my initial thoughts at the end of the video but simply put, to make a fair comparison I'd need more time on the Trident.
@photographerjonathan
3 жыл бұрын
@@EnglishbikerdanIf I owned a Honda 650 and I road it almost everyday, the second I went one mile on the Trident I would already know how they compared. my gut would tell me if I liked one I'm testing over the one I ride everyday. or if I liked it less, it's not rocket science lol.
@darrenwithers1878
3 жыл бұрын
The Triumphs pillion seat looks like an afterthought.
@santiagomoralesgarcia1802
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I hate these street bikes have a super sport pillion seat. I missed the kawasaki er6n pillion seat
@yonniboy1
3 жыл бұрын
IMO you can't go wrong with either bike, though the Trident specs seem to give it the edge but I believe both are miles ahead of the MT-07, SV650 and Z650.
@tonylacey9844
3 жыл бұрын
Can't really compare the SV650 1.5k cheaper
@peterroda8156
3 жыл бұрын
I have the cb650r and love it. Everything works and the engine sound it lovely. I love the triumph 660 looks but I wonder about quality. I looked at triumph before the 660 and found that the price, financing and especially insurance was too expensive. Honda gave me a great price and free insurance for one year.
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
Triumph said they have concentrated very hard on quality and fit and finish on the Trident. Only time will tell on that one.
@swapnilchaudhary2944
3 жыл бұрын
Its going to be opposite in my country. Cb is going to be really expensive and triumph is giving great finance offer. It starts from only 10000 rupees (137 usd) per month. But service is big issue if you aren't living in certain cities or close to those cities
@Lone_wolf_31
3 жыл бұрын
@@swapnilchaudhary2944 Hi ! I’m looking to buy the trident, can you please give me the finance details ? What down payment can I expect if the EMI is 10K. Thanks
@KK-gc5lj
3 жыл бұрын
The headlight of Honda looks much bold and sleek❤️
@TheClumsySpectre2
3 жыл бұрын
It is definitely between these two for my first bike, I love both of them and it seems to be hard to pick a winner, although slight edge to the Trident for styling and 🇬🇧
@A_Wolf
3 жыл бұрын
start on a lower cc bike, unless you are a very responsible person who also understands, "You will most likely drop your bike because it's your first".
@A_Wolf
3 жыл бұрын
ps. 400 or 320
@ronaldbear1
3 жыл бұрын
I’m getting the cbr650r
@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged
3 жыл бұрын
If you've never ridden any kind of dirtbike/scooter, I'd agree with those recommendations for something more like a Z400 or R3, find one used, ride the beans out of it, you'll likely have some slow speed flops and what not learning the ropes. If you've ridden other motorbikes and been through that, then go for it
@PLRMoto
3 жыл бұрын
Passed my test this year. I’ve bought the cb650r! Done 3,600 miles between Aug - October. Can’t recommend it enough, power is top end so unless you really throttle it it’s really manageable. Fantastic beginner to intermediate bike
@jannis.mp4454
3 жыл бұрын
Prefer the CB. I ordered the 21-model a month ago🔥
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
Good choice, and you get those lovely BP forks!
@skycaptain224
3 жыл бұрын
@@TeoSluga While I don't have the 650R I own two CBR600 (one track one street) and I actually love the "weakness" of the four down low, because when you are cruising you have a smooth running engine that's not hard on chain or tires but will easy go with traffic, but if you need screaming power it's just one or two downshifts away! :) so you got two bikes (personalites) in one bike. In this case however I would go for the trident since I've ridden Hondas all my life and the Tridents seems to be finally a fun "little" bike for the town and around that isn't too hard on the wallet and looks really great.
@ocb05
3 жыл бұрын
@@TeoSluga alright theory guy. It's done. Just suck it up. Even me who is a newbie also smoked SV 650 with my cb650r on medium high speed.
@skycaptain224
3 жыл бұрын
@@TeoSluga I say you are completly right, but only in a surprise acceleration attac, if you are in racemode, you never let the revs drop on your four. If in cruisemode I guess you just don't care.
@skycaptain224
3 жыл бұрын
@@TeoSluga Now I'm in deep trouble, since I own all in all 4 inlineFours (2 CBR600, one Hornet 900 and a vintage CB400F) how can I get out of this misery? :)
@RichardsModellingAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
Honda for me as it will just be easier to live with.
@richardbrooks4549
3 жыл бұрын
Triumph for me, as it will just be easier to live with
@stevemarcosunny3916
3 жыл бұрын
@@richardbrooks4549 in terms of reliability nothing beats honda
@Soulful_Life07
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple guy, I like simple and reliable bike, Honda all the way ❤️
@bogdanm7873
3 жыл бұрын
Screamer all day!
@MrMAKFoto
3 жыл бұрын
Honda for me
@be989
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan!, thank you for this! I can’t wait for the side by side / back to back comparison! Still on the fence but leaning towards the CB650R because of Honda reliability and tons more of aftermarket support. Can’t wait for January (or February as our local dealer says) to be able to sit on the Trident at the showroom. More power to you sir!
@be989
3 жыл бұрын
And I think the handling of the Trident (might be wrong as I’m no expert) might be largely attributed to the better stock tires... maybe.
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
@@be989 The stock tyres on the Honda are pretty decent but I've used Road 5's before on many bikes which didn't feel as agile as the Trident. Long story short, the Trident has Triumphs excellent handling that has made the Street Triple so popular. It feels very similar to a Street Triple.
@be989
3 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan thanks! Really can’t wait for that comparison of yours! FYI, here in the Philippines the 2021 CB650R comes with Dunlop Sportmax D214’s instead of the Metzeler Roadtec 01’s.
@punkrockdidi
3 жыл бұрын
@Bernie Mendoza Same here!I really can't wait to test drive them both,the only thing I know is that I'm not buying a 2 cylinder again.Like the looks of both bikes,the tech on the triumph and the hp figure of the CB 😁
@be989
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, any update on this proper comparison?
@HS99876
3 жыл бұрын
The one with leas plastic! For my first bike, both are above my budget, I went for GSX S750 with a big discount.
@vienv1
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, pretty much my choices. If only suzuki made an sv650 with the engine and suspension of the s750.
@HS99876
3 жыл бұрын
@@vienv1 Where I live, some Suzuki Dealerships have discounted the 2020 GSx s750($8000) for almost the same prices as 2020 SV 650 ( $7500). SV was my first choice but after seeing the $1400 discount on GSX , it was no brainer. I put deposit on one to pick up in April. The catch is that I have to drive it back 600Km.
@mrcintheuk5596
3 жыл бұрын
Good choice. In the UK until the 31st December the GSX-S is £7,249. In term of BHP bang for your buck it's a no brainer.
@HS99876
3 жыл бұрын
@@mrcintheuk5596 Where I live, some Suzuki Dealerships are giving 15% discount on GSX, but I have to drive 600Km to pick up the bike which is worth it. This time of the year lots of dealerships wants to open up space for their new 2021 inverntory, it is good time to find good discounts. I did a National search on Kijiji for the GSX S 750 and found a dealership with a big discount.
@trailrider1980
3 жыл бұрын
For street performance a triple > 4 cylinders. The triples power is more accesible at lower speeds and revs..
@seesungsee
3 жыл бұрын
I like the Triumph because Triumph starts with T for “ The one I like “ And Honda starts with. H for “ Have had many Honda’s already “
@RonaldPlett
3 жыл бұрын
I want a bike to last me at least 15 years minor breakdowns and thats why im a big Honda fan boy so yea cb650r for build quality and reliability
@Omar-kw5ui
3 жыл бұрын
15 years lol.. I've not even kept a bicycle for that long, let alone a car or motorcycle
@RonaldPlett
3 жыл бұрын
@@Omar-kw5ui cause you live in a different country. If I buy a cb650r I will have one of the most expensive motorcycles in my country. People can't afford good bikes cause the Government charges 40 to 60% duty so yea u wanna keep a bike her as long as possible. I know people who still drive their 1985 magnas from when they were kids
@RonaldPlett
3 жыл бұрын
@@TeoSluga thats probably true but ill do my best to take care of it and keep it under a roof and I think in that case it should last me that long. I have a 2007 kawasaki right now and it still has all the original plastic pieces but I just got it painted
@Omar-kw5ui
3 жыл бұрын
@@TeoSluga it doesn’t matter where the plastic is made, what matters is the type of plastic, what formula they use. And as long as its the same type of plastic that Honda uses on all their products, then it won’t make a difference where its made.
@Omar-kw5ui
3 жыл бұрын
@@TeoSluga doesn't matter if its a cheap model or an expensive model. Plastic is plastic. Plastic is cheap, and making it in Thailand offsets the fact that you need to sell the whole bike cheap. That means you can keep the same quality materials. Also if Honda cheaped out on less expensive products, they wouldn't have their reputation of top notch reliability would they. It takes 1 product to ruin the image of a whole company.
@pikebobstar2033
3 жыл бұрын
Very, very tough call but would go for Honda. Still think they top the reliability stakes. Can't believe triumph still promoting the Union flag. I believe no triumphs are made in Britain anymore and triumph are not the only ones to "design " in Britain either.
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
Honda certainly have a good rep for reliability. The Union jack is a nice touch from a British brand, to me it doesn't matter where it's manufactured. It's all designed over here. But there's colour options without it if you don't like it.
@aunoates6617
3 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan I thought the TFC versions were made in the UK?
@joerocket3rider603
3 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan Agree in spades... I own two Triumphs and if I’m completely honest, that British badge/flag is important to me (I am a US citizen and know plenty of lads over here who feel the same)... now, having said that, the bikes still need to be up to scratch aesthetically and mechanically, but all things mostly equal is where I mark to start...
@Mytwistedvoices
2 жыл бұрын
Always had Honda's, incredible bikes but the Africa twin wasn't the bike I wanted and the tiger 800 is. I bought a Trident. Excellent handling.
@gokulvijayan2867
3 жыл бұрын
For all the one who watched this video of comparing the triumph and honda.its absolutely no point to compare a British master craftsmanship with old Japanese one.triumph is not just a bike it's a genuine made not for just businesses.other end Honda is jus for brand and it's one model looks almost similar to another .and let me come to point who ever going to buy Honda will be going to miss the real thrill and true Craftsmanship.thank you a .
@postman2237
3 жыл бұрын
I agreed
@johnsumser9743
3 жыл бұрын
I've owned three Hondas and three Triumphs, so I don't have a huge bias either way. I think, however, that a triple is my favorite engine configuration, so I would go for the Triumph. The biggest thing swaying me toward the Triumph, though, is that Triumph dealerships allow test rides while Honda does not. I won't buy it if I can't ride it.
@kobebryant5135
2 жыл бұрын
triumph looks better but people say honda makes the best bikes on this planet so hard to choose from...
@deroseven
3 жыл бұрын
I like the two bikes!
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
Me too, I want both! :D
@stubbingtonmarigold3032
2 жыл бұрын
In 2022 the Honda is 1800$ more....the NA Honda tax is real.
@fazleesafiee
3 жыл бұрын
Honda 💪🏼💪🏼
@jitterball
Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2023 Triumph Trident, I love the sound and handling. My other bike is 2021 S1000RR Race, but for some reason, I enjoy riding Triumph more! Trident is more of an everyday nimble, comfortable and pleasant bike. It's also very pillion friendly.
@jckcc
3 жыл бұрын
Due to the price, I believe the Trident beats the CB650R. Unfortunately, where I live, it is more expensive than the CB650R for some idiotic reason.
@MultiKarukaru
2 жыл бұрын
In Australia is also trident more expensive then cb
@jeffferguson899
3 жыл бұрын
The difference is in 30yrs. the Honda will be running like new where the Triumph may not be running
@Tiax776
3 жыл бұрын
Honda has that ridiculous horn button and even more ridiculous always on indicators.
@Englishbikerdan
3 жыл бұрын
Two things that also bug me!
@MadChalet
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not in the market for a bike but enjoy looking about. There are several comments here about Triumph's unreliability. I have an 18 year old Triumph Sprint RS with over 40K miles on it and I've never been left high and dry. As for which bike here has 'better performance,' higher bhp at higher revs do not equal better performance, just a different delivery of power.
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