Forgiveness does not equal reconciliation. Forgiveness takes only you, whereas reconciliation takes both parties being willing to actively work to repair and maintain the relationship.
@irinamoraru5114
4 ай бұрын
Yes, because Why didn’t David go back living in his town even when Saul promised not to kill him? He was being wise and prudent, knowing what he knew about Saul, right?
@RCGWho
4 ай бұрын
Look up 2 Timothy 3:1-5 This generation is irreconcilable. one that is irreconcilable especially : a member of a group (such as a political party) opposing compromise or collaboration Synonyms: contradictory, conflicting, opposing,antagonistc It's the opposite of as much as lies within you, live in peace with all men. It's the opposite of forgiveness. It's the opposite of peacemaker.
@RCGWho
4 ай бұрын
If you choose to go NC with your parents you must be very careful it is absolutely necessary and not following a popular trend to cut someone off for any and all slights or offenses or differences of opinion.
@BambiKeefe
4 ай бұрын
My father abandoned me as a child and a I have reached out for years and he has no interest in having any relationship or communication with me. I can pray for him but I’m tired of the constant rejection from someone who clearly has no interest in knowing me. My father is my Heavenly Father.
@nicola9456
4 ай бұрын
Let us remember that even Jesus Himself was faced with rejection and many until this day reject Him. May you not feel discouraged and continue praying for your father just as I recently stared paying for my own. May the Lord strengthen you and bring healing to your soul in Jesus name. Amen
@ashleybraley6312
4 ай бұрын
My mother has struggled with alcoholism and for many years she hurt me emotionally. After I had my son I knew I had to create a boundary to protect my mental health. I stopped talking to her, stopped reading the texts and didn’t engage. I prayed over her weekly for those years and by the grace of God she’s doing so much better. This doesn’t mean she and I have a mother/daughter relationship but I can invite her to family events without worrying something bad will happen.
@Nayero26
4 ай бұрын
This video is not for child molesters, drug addiction and Sever abusersand Rape. So keep your kids safe people
@RCGWho
4 ай бұрын
True. It is for people opting for NC because they refuse to love and forgive and be longsuffering with a difficult parent.
@jamipop
4 ай бұрын
My parents are both emotionally and psychologically abusive and will not have access to my children until they get delivered. The day that happens - they are welcome in my home. I forgive them, I love them, but they are not healthy.
@Mwe_244
4 ай бұрын
I get that. When I am around certain family members, they are often uptight,mean spirited, threatening to use violence to correct, etc. This automatically gets me more bitter and angry. It’s ok to set boundaries if it’s a lot to deal with. Still be respectful to your parents but look out for yourself as well if it’s a lot to deal with.
@notbreadalone6696
4 ай бұрын
This video couldn't of come at any better time. I've been struggling with this for months. God is SO good! Thank you Milena and Jordan for sharing your views on these hard topics!
@allymounga4902
4 ай бұрын
Milena and Jordan, thank you. I’ve been thinking about this video all day, and I just want to say that it was really hard for me to admit these truths to myself, but it doesn’t matter because that’s what they are-truths. You’ve received a lot of pushback here today, and I appreciate your commitment to share biblical truths despite their unpopularity. This is something so many of us don’t want to hear but really need to understand. I believe in the Bible wholeheartedly and have to remind myself that there isn’t anything in there about cutting off communication and estranging from family. Instead, I need to forgive 70x7. When someone smacks me, offer them the other cheek too. When under the thumb of someone who goes against everything I believe in, carry their bag an extra mile. The Bible tells me to honor my mother and figure her trespasses as God forgives mine. So I will. This was the last push I needed. I’ve been stewing on this for months, and as you expressed, the timing was divine. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
@amandav9753
4 ай бұрын
I love that you’re humbling yourself and saying you’ve done wrong too because I remember those times when you called out your parents and thought how does she do that without her parents getting angry after watching the videos. Wishing I cld be honest with my parents like that but knowing they would hate hearing it too.
@narrowpathfarm
4 ай бұрын
At the beginning of this year I cut contact with my abusive mother. We live on the same property so it has been very hard. I don’t have contact with my father because of his abuse to me. It’s been the most challenging 5 months. I’ve started seeing a counselor to help me with all the trauma I have been through, by my parents and others. My parents say they are Christian’s but they do not act like it, so it has been hard to cut ties. My other siblings don’t talk to my parents either because of our childhood. It’s true when it’s said in the Bible that parents sin affects the next 3-4 generations. I’ve prayed so long for God to prepare me to be a wife, never thought it would have gone this way. Jesus is helping me break the generational curse so my children don’t go through it. While I am thankful, it’s still heartbreaking to be without any family. I’ve prayed for a church community and I think I have finally found a Bible teaching preacher, praise be to God, another long time prayer. I believe currently the most honoring thing for my mother is no contact, as I was asked to deliberately sin every time I was with her. It convicted me when Jordan said they Jesus died for them. It’s hard to pray for parents who physically and emotionally hurt you. This is not to slander my earthly father and mother, this is to say that childhood trauma is real and we as Christian’s need to seek God for healing for ourselves and for our children and future children. If God chooses to restore our relationship with our parents, then great, if not, then we have a duty to be godly parents to our children and not repeat the cycle
@deeperfaith_
3 ай бұрын
I agree 100%. Cutting ties can be healthy especially when you're emotionally hurt and the other person is not willing to change. Praying for them is very hard and I myself struggle to do it
@morganeisenzimmer
4 ай бұрын
I love most of what y’all do. I do think some of this mindset is unhealthy and it’s hard to hear it from people who don’t have the same experience as someone with abusive parents. I have tried to reconcile with my very “toxic” and emotionally manipulative/unavailable/abusive parents, but they have never corrected their bad behavior. I can forgive them, love them, pray for them, and move on, but it’s ultimately destructive to continue to try to rebuild a bridge that is continually broken by the other party. It’s exhausting and stressful and there is no peace. The Lord has put many other people in place to fill those parental gaps in my life and that has been very healing. I think that is a way that the Lord reconciles this situation for so many people. I don’t think having a relationship with parents who continually cause problems is reconciliation or is healthy at all. If I don’t want it to have power over me, I can’t involve myself with people who don’t correct bad behavior. While I do understand where y’all are coming from, this mindset is not realistic or healthy for so many people and it comes off a bit “removed”. I’d like to hear from someone who has actually dealt with truly toxic or abusive parents.
@jenniferreisler3272
3 ай бұрын
I love that you mentioned the Lord puts other people in place to fill those gaps. I fully believe that as well and have seen it happen for me ❤ it's healing in a way
@VLVR4
3 ай бұрын
As a Christian, I struggle with this all the time… I want to continue forgiving and try to reconcile with my toxic mom, but every time I do, her painful behavior reopens old wounds… I can’t keep “turning the other cheek” because I ain’t got any more cheeks to turn 🤷🏻♀️ I continue to love and pray for her, but I am no longer actively trying to “repair” or reconcile with her. I agree with you about how this video/this couple may have good intentions, but their message definitely seems a bit “removed,” as you put it. Blessings to you and yours 🙏🏼💗
@morganeisenzimmer
3 ай бұрын
@@VLVR4 thank you friend 🩷 you’re not alone in that one bit. So thankful for my family in Christ!
@morganeisenzimmer
3 ай бұрын
@@jenniferreisler3272 I love that 🩷🩷 it really is healing. God always returns what has been stolen and mends what has broken.
@EveryDayTeresa
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this comment because this is how I feel as well, it also is a completely different story when their bad behavior or refusal to change is then affecting your children and marriage. Unfortunately it’s a very difficult thing to understand unless you have personally experienced it. For me I have to draw the line when it comes to my children and marriage.
@xxjanai
4 ай бұрын
Genuine question- at what point do people draw the line between honoring your parents but admitting their faults & admiting that at times, you did deserve better. I think sometimes people mix honoring with obeying & submitting.
@EssieSweet-ty6kt
4 ай бұрын
Always honor them with words and love. And if you can bridge that conversation in a lighthearted manner and it takes a bit of effort and time it should work always being neutral to triggers from them. If not you can read proverbs it can give you more insight on how to deal with a specific relationship. Jesus also said don’t give pearls to pigs so…read that parable for direction.
@gaigin7388
4 ай бұрын
I do wish that y'all wouldn't be so quick to teach about something you so recently learned. Give it some longevity
@Itsangela87
4 ай бұрын
Understandable, but maybe it can be seen as a conversation instead of a teaching. Sometimes, these things have to be said to plant a seed. Do your own research. Pray on your own. Don't take everything you hear at face value. God bless.
@gaigin7388
4 ай бұрын
Hi there, I don't mean that I took anything negative to apply to my own situation. I just think it's unwise to talk about such a heavy subject that they said they've had a change of heart in for only a month
@Itsangela87
4 ай бұрын
@@gaigin7388 I hear you, and I wasn't speaking specifically to you the person, but more generally in regards to the research and prayer. Still, I think this is an important topic for conversation. We should always look to God and ask for wisdom no matter what. But having this topic come up for some people may have them seek God to work in their families. So I think it was good that it was brought up. Someone needed to hear it, which is probably why they talked on it now instead of waiting.
@gaigin7388
4 ай бұрын
I hear you, and I think I understand what you are saying. I don't have a problem with the subject matter as much as the lack of experience with it
@lorameadows4652
4 ай бұрын
The Lord can and does miracles in no time, like the woman with the issue of blood. When folks were healed, they went out immediately and told others. When the Lord brings conviction and we repent and we are willing to be taught by the Lord, we should share it. We have a daughter who has disowned us and won't let us see our only grandson. I so appreciate these 2 for sharing what they have learned from the Lord!
@Mwe_244
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this. I love my parents but I did go through a rough time period with them, especially being a Pastor’s kid. There were a lot of mistakes they made (eg: Having favorites, insults, physical and emotional abuse,making a lot of financial mistakes, etc. ). In church, the older people loved to criticize kids for being disrespectful and say , “ I’ll beat you.” but never took accountability for the times they were the abusive ones. Also, taking certain scriptures out of context and thank God I am able to laugh off those kinds of discussions now. I found it hard to speak about them in a respectful way because people thought they were amazing human beings but did not see who they really were behind closed doors. But, going to therapy and growing closer to God helped me to realize that forgiveness is honoring your parents. The disrespect came from unforgiveness and bitterness. I was operating out of pain. I’m still not perfect but I have improved and my relationship with them has gotten better. It’s not good to have bitterness in your heart because it will prevent you from being productive. Also, don’t listen to those scare tactics and be led by the Holy Spirit. Let God heal your heart and surrender that pain to him. If you did disrespect your parents out of hurt, repent but know that God’s grace is sufficient.
@RobertaStonequist
4 ай бұрын
with an absent, mentally ill father i think this absolutely can still apply to me. humility is far reaching, God’s Word is infallible. even being able to write a letter is honoring, uninterruptible and can give peace in a place where direct contact is particularly unhealthy.
@tamiurquizo746
4 ай бұрын
You can honor them by the following: loving siblings, saying I love you, and praying for them.
@JesusisKingRedeemerMessiah
4 ай бұрын
I pray 🙏 for anyone here who has been emotionally or physically abused by a toxic parent. Oftentimes within the Christian community people will gaslight and guilt trip survivors. Let me tell you those who have been hurt by parents, the Lord sees your hurt. He hates abuse. He is our redeemer. Honor your parents does not mean go and get more abuse . I find it hypocritical when people use Honor your parents to force them back into abuse. What if your father raped you as a child how would that make you feel with someone telling you go back. Would you want to bring your child around him ? The scripture is very clear. You can honor them by breaking the curse. The scripture says it will repeat from one generation to the next. I pray people become active listeners and soften their hearts to people that have been abused . Matthew 10:34-39 34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn “‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law- 36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’[a] 37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it. Jesus makes it clear we must seek and walk with Him first. If our parents are not walking with Him and abused us , we can walk away and be free from abuse. If they call themselves Christians they would display faith . Faith is repentance and living like Jesus. Faith is not believing , for even the demons believe in Jesus and tremble at his name. There are many books and sermons on toxic parents. God is what led me to the truth. He is the light . He understands. Let us not forget he told Jacob to walk away from Laban the toxic father in Law. God hates abuse and we must put Him first period .
@meganrosaa
4 ай бұрын
The Lord has worked wonders in my relationship with my parents, now is the waiting season of my relationship with my sister. When Milena said "we're impatient" that couldn't be more than true for me. I want my sister to have a relationship with the Lord and replace hurt with forgiveness and peace but you both are right, I need to be patient in the timing of God and praying for her throughout this waiting period. Thank you, this encouraged me 🤍🤍🤍
@inayamack8824
4 ай бұрын
I am 26 and engaged. I’m learning the difference that scripture teaches obeying your parents as children vs. honoring. Some issues I’ve had with my parents resulted in my fiance and I deciding to transition to another church, giving some extra space but fervently praying for them and continuing to be in contact. It’s been hard but necessary and I’m praying the Lord opens their eyes to how they’ve treated us. But we love and forgive them
@Nena012
4 ай бұрын
When you spoke about how Jesus himself had family struggles it opened my eyes to see how much he comprehends me more than I think. Thank you Melina & Jordan. My heart needed this episode 🫶🏼
@Nayero26
4 ай бұрын
I needed this video and ive been struggling with this because I forgave my mom until I had my daughter because I couldn't understand how and why I was treated that way to see your beautiful perfect child and to have any harm come to them is so crazy to me. I will defend her safety with my life. But im working on this forgiveness. I've been praying, and this was what I needed ❤. Thank you'll and Thank You Father for your grace 🙏🏻
@dana8208
4 ай бұрын
You have been tackling very heavy and big topics through your podcast ministry. I pray that God leads your ministry and blesses you with wisdom and understanding to know His character and will for our lives as believers.
@bayleyhuntley
4 ай бұрын
My husband and I had been no contact with his parents for the past year. We had fallen victim to society's mindset and behavior of "you get cut off if you do/don't do this" like what you two discussed. But the Lord started to convict us, so just a couple days ago we had a conversation that sounded very similar to this episode. And then last night we met with them and were able to reconcile our relationship with them. Needless to say, this episode gave me chills! Thank you, as always, for letting the Holy Spirit work through y'all in preparation for each episode of this podcast- I've been a listener since Day 1. ❤️
@kayshaflint1433
4 ай бұрын
I was just praying for help in this and opened up to this! Thank you!!
@amberhogarth3813
4 ай бұрын
It took me a loooong time to honor my mother. It’s only within the last year that our relationship has changed. Thank God! I used to battle with the trauma every single day. I used to struggle with the thoughts of what I just wanted to say to her face in my head for years. Then I dishonored her and my father by making a decision without their blessing and it took a long conversation with both of them for me to realize how much God designed them to be my parents. God wanted my parents in my life. And my relationship with my parents have been forever changed. Are there unspoken words and situations that were never brought up or had apologies for? Yes. But we don’t have to discuss everything for God to forgive us. I forgive them even if they’ve never taken responsibility for some things. It’s freeing to see them beyond their sins.
@Lola-eh9cp
4 ай бұрын
It’s so wild bc I’ve been sifting through this for the past month! God works in crazy ways
@cyndicopeland4113
4 ай бұрын
I grew up with a parent that is bipolar and has anger issues and that was a recipe for some gnarly physical abuse due to that parent just losing touch with their reasoning side of their brain. So in that respect, I try my best to still honor that parent when I talk about them to others and also still going to see them but in a safe and public environment with other people around. I am sad to say I wouldn’t leave my child with that parent or be alone with that parent out of being safe and cautious but I do love them very much. And I love to see them with my child cause they are actually a really fun and affectionate person when they have their wits about them. I agree that honoring your parents is a biblical calling on our lives and that can totally look different for different peoples situations.
@jenniferreisler3272
3 ай бұрын
I agree, I have needed to take similar approaches. It doesn't make me love them less :)
@xicetrayx2023
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience! It’s all a work in progress for everyone. We don’t have all the answers but what you showed me today is that all my answers are in his Word! Through continual prayer and seeking his wisdom and not our own 👏🏻
@jesusiskingofmyheart
4 ай бұрын
It's tough being the only unbeliever in my family.. I respect and honor my parents but at the same time, I refuse to compromise my faith and the Truth of God's Word. My relationship with the Lord always comes first. I am constantly encouraged to continue to live for Jesus, shining his love and light, and sharing the good news of Jesus Christ to my family members whenever the Lord opens the door and I have the opportunity to do so! I won't stop praying for their salvation. I pray they repent and put their faith in Jesus before it's too late. What is impossible with man, is possible with God. Amen! Thank you for this episode. God bless y'all 💗
@TheSingleManPodcast
4 ай бұрын
”Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. “Honor your father and mother”-which is the first commandment with a promise- “so that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth.”“ Ephesians 6:1-3 NIV
@turneyjourney
4 ай бұрын
You can honor tour parents and set boundaries at the same. I would say that avoding enabling is loving and having hard conversations is merciful.
@mariahgasca
4 ай бұрын
All glory to God for a forgiving heart that I could have never done on my own
@LauraDiaz-w9q
4 ай бұрын
“And then ask the Lord, ‘how can I bring glory to You through this?’” AMEN!
@madisonstockman
3 ай бұрын
So so good. I'm currently in a season where I needed to hear this. Thank y'all for being obedient to Christ and sharing this.
@Itsangela87
4 ай бұрын
My father was absent in my life growing up, in and out of prison. He would show up, promise to stay around and then I wouldn't see him for years. I would write him in prison and he wouldn't write back. It got so bad that I used to say that I didn't have a father, I wouldn't acknowledge him. Fast forward to last year, my father was diagnosed with lung cancer that spread to his brain by the time they found it, and he died 4 months later. In those short 4 months, I prayed for him for the first time, I took out any negative thoughts I had of him and saw him as my father. It was the hardest, but probably the closest I had ever felt with him. My cousin who was like a sister to me died suddenly 10 days before he did, but before she died, she wrote me a note and hid it in my bible.. preparing me to feel all the feelings, forgive, and pray often. I had thought it was for my father, but she was preparing me for two losses in less than 2 weeks. We're coming up on a year, next month, from their passing.
@jamiefragoso1593
4 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry for your loss. 😢
@Itsangela87
4 ай бұрын
Thanks, love ❤
@livingwholeandwell
3 ай бұрын
This video is very timely. I'm currently pregnant and going through a really difficult time in my relationship with my mom. I pray for redemption ❤🙏
@stephaniest.pierre459
4 ай бұрын
Truly felt like you were speaking to me and to my situation. I am no contact with my parents, but will be praying for them more.
@emmamarie2061
3 ай бұрын
I have desperately needed direction on this topic so badly, thank you praise God for delivering through your podcast!! Thank you for sharing your wisdom and direction towards Christ with such humility, empathy, and tenderness to a sensitive subject. My whole family are atheists and I have a severed relationship with my dad who was abusive as I grew up, but still also did a lot of good things for the family by providing and teaching me hard work, These things most often are never, ever black and white and contain a complex element that makes it difficult to navigate especially as we are older and struggle with consequences of our childhood/trauma. I think the easy way out is to create a hard boundary and cut people out of your life to avoid digging into the icky mess of emotions and hurt from the past, but that truly is where I believe Jesus, love, and raw humility lie. If we pray for His strength and guidance to carry us through there is way to still honor our parents and handle relationships in a Christ like manner. You can have boundaries but still honor others; they are not mutually exclusive in my opinion. Pray for blessings and protection over your beautiful family
@kristyrae9
3 ай бұрын
Awe, I miss seeing your mother in vlogs. I used to think what a beautiful multigenerational (& bilingual!) family with her helping around with the kids.
@Hannah-nc7cb
Ай бұрын
As a parent to 2 boys yes honor and respect but my kids DO NOT OWE ME A THING I OWE THEM EVERYTHING
@Lianastudioss
4 ай бұрын
This isn’t true for all cases. Some can ruin generations. Example Abraham father was an idol worshiper, he was called to leave his family and he listened. The same with Ruth. We need to pray and ask God for direction. We should always forgive our parents and let go but if they are not Christian’s, it is not wise for them to influence you or your children x
@kelseygratz5094
Ай бұрын
Hey Milena! I truly love listening to what the Lord is doing in your family’s lives, it is so encouraging. Thank you for continuing to share. I will say I’ve been wrestling with this and wanted to bring up two areas of concern. In reading Ephesians 6, I think contextually it is speaking to children that are not of an age to speak for themselves. In John, when Jesus heals the blind man they ask his parents as a witness in which his parents respond that he was of age and could speak for himself. There’s so much scripture about a man leaving his household and finding a wife where they become one flesh. A woman submits herself to the authority of her husband. I think we are to financially care for our parents once they reach a certain age per 1 Timothy 5:4. I’m not in support of cancel culture in anyway and definitely do not think it is pleasing to the Lord when we mock or scoff at the older generation by calling them “boomers” or anything of that nature. I just think that we need to be order to reconcile scriptures when Jesus talks about in Matthew that he did not come to bring peace but to divide households.
@miroslabarosas701
4 ай бұрын
I’ve been enjoying your guys videos and where it’s going. But I have to disagree on, and I'm referring to the Bible verse that Milena read Mark 3:20. I understand why she chose it but unfortunately because there’s so many Bible translations hers is translated differently and leaves out "for the people were saying" So shes reading it as if its Jesus's "family” is the one calling Him crazy but if you look in other Bible translations, it's the people, the crowd. Continue reading the whole paragraph it clearly also adds up. Another thing I wanted to point out was Jesus and Him having siblings. It's so misbelief that Mary and Joseph afterwards continued having children. But not once does it mention their other children conceptions/births. Just like in the Old Testament if you pay attention, clearly the family line is explained in detail. Who the parents are, when each bible character was conceived, when they were born, how they died. And then in different books in the Old Testament they repeat the family line over and over. So why wouldn't they especially do the same thing for Jesus our Lord? Why don't we continue hearing from his family like his nieces and nephews. Where did His bloodline end? Maybe because Jesus is and was the only child Joseph and Mary had. And even then God the Father sent Him to Mary without having her come to her husband Joseph. And it makes all sense because it's not just anyone who is coming down from Heaven. It's our LORD himself, the Son of God. So yes He had to be immaculate conceived in a sinless womb. Brought to a Home where He be delicately taken care of not just by any ordinary parents, but Holy ones. I hear comments against the Catholics but perhaps it's something you guys have to get into prayer with and dig deeper in studying.
@franciscaedwards6219
3 ай бұрын
Amen! The idea of carnal directs brothers and sisters is very recent in church history, all protestants and evangelicals believed Him to be an only child. The word used in the bible can mean "relatives" also. Like cousins. Mary's womb was sanctified with the Lords presence like the tabernacle so no man can enter after Him. We idolized sex and cant imagine someone abstaining out of respect for God.
@pj.n3398
2 ай бұрын
Mark 3:31 "Then Jesus' mother and brother came to see him..." what other proof do you need that Mary had other sons after Jesus?
@miroslabarosas701
2 ай бұрын
@@pj.n3398 Bible versus they use to say Jesus had siblings. but you haven’t called other brothers and sisters who share the same faith BROTHERS AND SISTERS. If Jesus had other siblings then why would he leave His Mother to John the apostle when he is about to die on the cross, where was Christ's brothers and sisters then??
@miroslabarosas701
2 ай бұрын
@@pj.n3398 there’s so bloodline even mentioned after Christ either? As Him being God, why wouldn’t his full family line be in the Bible?
@nicolemarie4216
Ай бұрын
@@miroslabarosas701because the Bible isn’t about them. It’s about HIM. Why would we need to hear about His brothers and sisters? The bloodline leads to Jesus and then that’s it. He’s the answer. He’s the cornerstone.
@Homewithlinds
4 ай бұрын
I struggle so much with this because my husband has found many faults with my parents, there are many issues and his concerns are legitimate. But how can I honor my parents and my husband when the two are in conflict!? I want to honor both my husband and my parents.
@jenniferreisler3272
3 ай бұрын
I have experienced this to a degree as well, for me, I honor my parents from a distance by keeping in touch, visiting during the year, but it would not be healthy for our marriage to be close to them, at least not in this season. And my husband always comes first if I have to choose, but he's also very reasonable and wouldn't say something unless he really saw a concern so I trust his opinions. ❤
@zayracerise
4 ай бұрын
This is the problem with interpreting the Bible on your own. You guys are not theologians and are spreading false information in this particular video 😢 Jesus was never cast out from his family the translation you guys are reading is not giving you all the information and I encourage you two to get the full context.
@RCGWho
4 ай бұрын
Can you clarify?
@ssmith956
Ай бұрын
Milena and Jordan, I don’t know if you’ll ever read this comment, but I hope you do. I’ve been thinking a lot about you two since the horrific attempt that was made on 13 July. I know Jordan was close to him at one point in time. I remember the prayer that you and Jordan prayed for him back in 2020 during one of your podcasts. You called him your friend and to be honest, I feel as if he’s mine too albeit I never knew him personally. I can only imagine how the two of you felt when you heard the news, especially Jordan. We are under spiritual attack and it was clear that day that God was watching over that special man. God bless you and your family.
@Cozygirliecorner
4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this wisdom
@alexandrah.5878
4 ай бұрын
I appreciate this podcast episode! Timing was on point. It helped me to have a more Godly perspective. Thank you!
@gabrieladeorantes20
3 ай бұрын
I love my parents and I forgive them. I honored my parents with my behaviour, with my grades, getting married and then having children, I obeyed them while I was still under their domain. They were very abusive in a psycological way and sometimes physically. They are very hurtful with their words not only towards me but towards my husband and my mom has said some hurtful things about one of my boys. I don't have any recentment. However I can't have a close relationship with my mom and allow her to be hurtful towards my family or feel like I have to walk on eggshells and put my self in a stressfull situation everytime I am around her because she might start shouting, saying bad words, gossiping and getting mad if I don' agree with her and start gossiping back and not because I am being selfish but because I need to keep and guard my husband's, children's and my heart. I pray for their salvation and I take everyrhing to the feet of our saviour. I allow them to see my children but I have become very firm with my Dad about what he cam say to me and my family and I don"t have a relationship with my mom.
@MercedesGoVroom
4 ай бұрын
Catholic here! That disclaimer really touched my heart. It seems as though Catholics are collectively cast so many stones by other Christians. The analogy still makes sense tho. And many Catholics theorize that Jesus siblings may have been Joseph’s children from a previous marriage, making them Jesus adopted half siblings. Not trying to debate this, but again….the analogy still served its purpose :)
@jessicaabragg
4 ай бұрын
My dad mocks Christianity and I have explained to him that's how we are raising our children and that is what our family stands on and he wants to be apart of my kids lives but I feel lile it's like walking on egg shells when he visits. Still trying to figure it out, but I do think him witnessing how we live could be big testimony. Loved this episode thanks for talking about this!!!
@EssieSweet-ty6kt
4 ай бұрын
If I could help you from your comment I would try to show the love of Christ and if I feel something is off about him visiting home then I would go do it publicly like parks restaurants etc and not risk hurting the relationship.
@jesusiskingofmyheart
4 ай бұрын
You look so cute Milena! Also, thank you for this episode. It really is much needed! God bless y'all.
@Antoniafrancescasantos
2 ай бұрын
Thank you. A hard truth, but I needed this encouragement today 🤍 Reminding myself that honouring my parents is honouring God.
@katelynlong4190
4 ай бұрын
My mothwr was an alcoholic fron the tine i was 2 yra old until i was 26. She suddenly one day said I'm done drinking. She has nevwr drank a deop since as of 7 yrs later. It was tough as a child but it wasnt her. It was the alcohol so ive come to terms with that. But aince she stopped drinking shes had all of thw diagnosis like schizophrenia and BP2 theyve had her so aedated and on so many mwds thst i don't know she even needs. I want my mom back...i cant even speak to her because her memory is shot and she cant be left alone. Please help ne pray for a breakthrough for my mother so that her mind can come back to us. Pray that the chains of these medications and this confusion be broken in Jesus name 🙏🏼 i finally got a sober mom and since shes not been herself. But i know God is always with us 💗
@Elithia.m
2 ай бұрын
Wow. This was so good. My family has been through it all.. we’ve gone years of periods where we are “okay” then something happens and then we’re not talking and then we’re “okay” again and it’s been like that over and over and over.. resentment, unforgiveness, and unresolved trauma. Then recently a family secret was made aware to everyone and now it’s so much worse.. I pray for my family that somehow some way, God will restore us as a family. I just want everyone to be happy and healed in their hearts. My parents are on the verge of divorce (although they have practically been living divorced already) and my older sister doesn’t speak to my dad, my younger sister hates my dad.. Father I pray my family will be restored and your Holy Spirit touch and heal everyone’s hearts. In your name Jesus, Amen.
@kadiegoins9528
4 ай бұрын
I know there are many nuiances to this video. I have a good relationship with my parents even though my childhood was a rocky one. The reason I listened to this video was to maybe get biblical insight to my older sister and I's relationship. It was mentally abusive and manipulative. We have been partial contact with boundaries for about 4 years now which was my choice so that I could heal and learn to trust her again. Although, she never seemed to respect my boundaries and would say I never explicitly told her them. I have since forgiven her because of the Lord but I had realized a while back I was still holding onto anger and bitterness so I started praying for her. I feel the Lord has softened my heart. I am hoping with your next episode I can gain more insight. I don't know if I could reconcile for the fear of getting hurt again or even putting my son through broken promises. But maybe that's the enemy? I guess my question is should I reopen that relationship and extend an olive branch and restate my boundaries? Or should I have no boundaries? What happens if she becomes that way again?
@saintamerican6105
4 ай бұрын
Im really excited about this cuz im struggling with honoring IN-LAWS & my husbands Parents🙏
@jkayla_lashae
4 ай бұрын
This community is a blessing
@Bluebell940
4 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this podcast, God does work in funny ways. You uploaded this just as I was reconciling with my mother in law after many years of not talking. I've finally been able to forgive with God's help. It's not to say that I can forget the past, but forgiving allows me to expand my future and release the pain. I really liked when you spoke of being a living testimony and how perhaps this can be seen to those we've had difficulties with, encouraging them on their journey. I thought that was profound. Also when you mentioned that the enemy would want to break up generations, this too resonated. Thanks for this podcast, it helped me, and I will read the book you've suggested ❤
@SummerMcCollum
4 ай бұрын
This video is an answer to prayer for me! Thank you
@allymounga4902
4 ай бұрын
I have been praying for this episode. Thank you
@krisangelinedominguez1543
4 ай бұрын
My parents were not horrible, there were just some actions of theirs in the past (related to my past before Jesus) that hurt me and some actions currently still hurting me. For one, I am deeply hurt that they moved to Michigan to care for my grandmother (she is still very able bodied and not sick) instead of staying here in California to have a relationship with my 11 month old baby girl, I felt like they chose her over me & my daughter. I’m trying to understand why they did that. I still FaceTime call them when I can and show them to my daughter on the video calls, and I know they love me and my daughter. But there is unspoken hurt that has been unaddressed (in the Filipino culture communication is nonexistent in parent-child relationships), if left unmended it may turn ugly. I have wanted to explain to them how they have hurt me and also apologize how I have hurt them, but I can’t bring myself to, for fear of there being a fight (I’m a peacemaker). As my 29th bday approaches tomorrow, it’s so like God to bring this video on my feed and bring it up now. I am praying on how I can start reconciliation with my parents. 💔
@rubykrueger2297
4 ай бұрын
Wow this is exactly the topic I need today. Looking forward to this.
@luck13swr
3 ай бұрын
I needed to hear this. Thank you so much for covering this hard topic and speaking on it and pulling from scripture.
@Themagaila
3 ай бұрын
Such a needed conversation, so hard at times . God is able to do wonders . We should use wisdom always . Ultimately trust God as we navigate healing .
@oceaneyeye
4 ай бұрын
Amazing episode, this discussion is SO needed in today's WORLD!!! Thank you Lord for forgiveness ❤
@Drpeppr26
4 ай бұрын
This episode was very timely. I would love thoughts on practical ways to honor parents that don’t desire a relationship with us.
@brookenicoley90
4 ай бұрын
One thing that has been helpful for me is knowing that its really not about the "toxic parent" its about my relationship with the Lord and respecting his structure of authority and regardless of how the "toxic parent" responds/reacts, I will still be fruitful by being obedient to the Lord and finding ways to graciously honor my parents. And in some relationships, thats exactly what the toxic parent wants - to be first or your attention or the drama/reaction from you. So finding ways to be gracious with them to make it genuinely about peace and unconditional love and honoring the Lords commands, its much more fruitful. Regardless if they change, you will change by being obedient. Also it calls us to have a love that is longsuffering for one another and even if this parent is very difficult to love, we have all been difficult to love and maybe they loved you through that time or someone else did and you appreciated that so if they do turn in the end they can appreciate the longsuffering love you have and had for them. And if it feels evil or even demonic - resist the devil and he will flee. You can show that you are here for peace and love and to inspire them to want to follow jesus and not manipulations etc and if their schemes are from the devil, they themselves will flee, you dont have to go leave or go anywhere
@EssieSweet-ty6kt
4 ай бұрын
Yes you are correct everything until the last part I would add that some relationships should not be pushed if it causes you to stumble. Also Jesus added to not give our pearls to pigs so we should keep ourselves in right standing like you have mentioned. Loved your comment and be blessed
@brookenicoley90
4 ай бұрын
Yes! I totally agree and we shouldn't cause others to stumble even more in their sin! Many, many blessings to you too 🙏
@saintamerican6105
4 ай бұрын
GREAT episode about sanctifying the bloodline through serving GOD amen PRAISE GOD 🙏
@JesusisKingRedeemerMessiah
4 ай бұрын
There are 2 good ones to watch . Shoreline Church- Walking away with Jesus and Time of grace ministry - What does God say to the abused ?
@kate3276
3 ай бұрын
Respectfully, without sharing your own personal story on this…I don’t think this is a good topic for you to speak on. Because in all honesty, it does not sound like you had a truly toxic dynamic with your parents. It just sounds like run of the mill butting heads as you grew older. Some people genuinely are dealing with dysfunctional dynamics (emotional incest, being forced out of the family for wanting to raise their kids without the unhealthy dynamic, manipulation, gaslighting, codependency, slander, etc). And while yes, our goal should always be to seek peace and healing…Milena was very tone deaf in this episode. Usually love all your takes, and I agreed with a lot of what you said (especially about taking guidance from scripture, not other people). But I don’t think you fully grasp the pain that leads to some people being estranged from family.
@lawrratives
2 ай бұрын
I thought there’d been agreement to not utilise the term “parents”. Or am I failing to contextualise?
@wingingitwithwildlings
4 ай бұрын
Has anyone got the link to the book they were talking about please? I listened to the podcast but now can’t find the bit where they spoke about the book😅 thank you!
@jgfffffffhjiufdddj
4 ай бұрын
the timing is insane. i have been effected by this exact type of warfare and this is confirmation that THE HOLY SPIRIT MAKES US AND OUR RELATIONSHIPS NEW IN CHRIST. amennnnn lolol yay!
@Bluebell940
4 ай бұрын
Proverbs 14:1 - "The wise woman builds her house, but with her own hands the foolish one tears hers down."
@leticiafernandes8804
4 ай бұрын
17:48 🙌 forgive to be forgiven. That's what we all should be looking for ❤
@bubblelishis11
4 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on deliverance? 🙏
@kimbers1238
3 ай бұрын
Thank u for talking about this. I don't have the best parents but would not put such horrible restrictions on my parents to not see their grandchildren again. There r others ways. Of course not if horrific things happened. But if they don't respect my boundaries u can always be there for my parents and children visits. If they r crossing boundaries then say well were going to have to head out ect
@NathalieVA56
3 ай бұрын
This made me wonder what scripture says about how Jesus dealt with criticism because my mother is very critical of how I’m raising my children. I then get very defensive because her parenting was very flawed and she speaks about how I should be teaching things that she never did with us. I get protective over them as well which can make me aggressively fight back. I truly need to study this. Thank you
@lovelyfollowerofchrist
3 ай бұрын
Hi my brother and beautiful sister in Christ. I first want to thank you both for your obedience to the Lord and just being a blessing to my life. Melina I literally watch every video of yours and each one is such a blessing you encourage me so much as a stay home mommy for 4 as we both are so thank you sooo much. Praise Jesus and I pray He continues to bless and cover your family and I pray more wisdom to the both of you.. I did have a question.. I loved loved loved your series on Nephilim well I don’t think the series was named Nephilim but you talked about them and a lot about how you do read the apocrypha and I absolutely love that because honestly these pass 3 years of me and my husbands walk with the Lord we have not encountered literally anyone who is even open to reading the apocrypha so yea back to my question. Have yous ever drove into who are the real Hebrew Israelíes are? In the apocrypha 2 Esdras 13 we read that God sent a group of them to an unknown land called Arzareth.. they obviously multiplied.. now when we do our research as God tells us we should we know that the land Christopher Columbus discovered that was unknown was originally called Arzareth.. Literally the whole half of the world all the islands and countries that are not mentioned in the Bible because nobody knew or lived there.. Christopher Columbus went to every island and country that and persecuted tormented killed and enslaved all the people on these unknown lands.. there are history to prove that. And He made the people catholicism and he also send many on ships to Spain to be slaves He gave them all a new language because they all spoke Hebrew. We know this because we know Christopher Columbus had a Hebrew translator on the mayflower boat with him.. then he obviously took the oil and gold and diamonds from all the islands and countries and renamed them all.. also when we read Deuteronomy and Jeremiah and read about the curses upon God’s chosen people due to their disobedience of course we read that the Israelites men will be boasted prideful men and they will work but hardly see the profit they will not have time for their children and the women will be miserable and bitter and I just can see any Jews of the world today fixing that lifestyle.. I do see Hispanics and African American peoples lives like that though and they background history allll have to do with their land being rated and their people being killed and forced into catholicism. So yea I know that it doesn’t matter who are the true chosen tribe because of our Savior we all are called chosen but I do believe it is necessary and very important to know the truth because we know that the Lord says He will not return until His people realize who they are and come back to His laws and statues.. so if we know this then so does the enemy so I’m not surprised if the enemy literally deceived and manipulated the world to believe that the Jews of this world are the chosen people when really it’s the complete opposite. Thanks for taking the time to read my comment God bless you both 🩷🙏🏼
@monica6615
15 күн бұрын
I am hearing some mixed messages and too much vagueness from this video. My mom has caused so much heartbreak, abuse, and had begun to teach me very unhealthy behaviors, and is now trying to cause havoc in my own family. I wish with all my heart she could be the mom she needs to be, but putting up boundaries and minimal contact is actually crucial for my family’s well being. And my parents whenever I stood up for myself after being out down as a child, the thing I was told over and over again was “honor thy father and mother”. Yes I can and do pray for her and forgive her over and over, but I will not blindly “honor” whatever she wants at the price of my peace. Also, who says Jesus had siblings?! Brother and sister/brethren I’ve always been taught and understood as simply Jesus’ friends and family, not siblings.
@tamiurquizo746
4 ай бұрын
This was so good in so many ways. Thank u
@larafuad4658
4 ай бұрын
Jesus was middle Eastern. In our culture call relatives, like cousins, can be called brothers and sisters just like how Abraham called Lot in several scriptures that he is his brother and in fact he was his nephew. Genesis 14:14 King James Version 14 And when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his trained servants, born in his own house, three hundred and eighteen, and pursued them unto Dan.
@jalenam87
4 ай бұрын
Perfect timing! I needed to hear this!
@lizpaulino8884
4 ай бұрын
Dear Milena and Jordan, I don’t have a relationship with my mother. It’s a long story. I don’t think I need to go into details… Shes just not the best person and causes a lot of stress and drama. So I have tried to keep a distance to protect myself but I always answer her calls and texts and she can see her grandchildren when she wants… My question is… how much do I need to do in order to “honor” my parents? I don’t hate her nor am I angry. I just want distance. I do worry though that I am acting contrary to the word. I do forgive her. But I don’t want to be close to her… it would be opening a door to drama…I’d appreciate your insight.
@ayrianamosiychuk
4 ай бұрын
So with us of the ones with the parent that are the extremes as mentioned at the beginning. What should we do? Something in constantly praying about
@EssieSweet-ty6kt
4 ай бұрын
If you have not received Christ pls know He will erase all hurt and you won’t suffer from it anymore. His word is clear he turns our sorrow into joy and yes we can acknowledge they hurt us but we won’t suffer from that wound anymore. If you have received Christ pls seek inner healing and deliverance from a church since your case is extreme. In the meantime you can refer to James and pray to God to remove the hurt while you forgive them. They didn’t know or care as to why they did but it did affect us so ask God to heal you and He will.
@linnettemontes1359
4 ай бұрын
I just want to say I am very conflicted with this . I asked God for my perspective regarding this topic to align with his because there are habits that are being taught to my children that do not align with his word on how Gods children should be. My children’s grandparents coddles and make excuses for my children while I am correcting/ reprimanding my child . This has led to my child not having accountability and making excuses for all her behaviors . This also resulted in entitlement and fragile self esteem . I never know how to address this with them because they do it out of love but I have limited their interaction with them however I do feel uncomfortable doing so
@EssieSweet-ty6kt
4 ай бұрын
Those are your parent intuition kicking in. It says in the Bible teach a child the word and they will never depart from it. Be wise. You are the parent and they are your child which is Gods gift. We all give accounts to the Lord for what we do with our children. Honor in other ways and keep your distance because not everyone loves Gods word and lives by it. Live righteously before God that is the right thing to do and He will honor you.
@kolsethministries
4 ай бұрын
From everything I’ve read and all the lessons I’ve sat through it’s my understanding that what we think of honoring our parents and what the original Law describes aren’t exactly the same thing. We should all be respectful to each other and love one another as that IS a command from Jesus. However I don’t think this is the best way to handle this topic. You opened the podcast by stating you see and understand that this is a problem for many people and I don’t think mishandling Scripture is your intent and I want to make that abundantly clear. The idea of multigenerational families coming together and loving on one another is a wonderful idea, but this is not great exegesis of the Scriptures.
@mireyaray1208
Ай бұрын
Honoring parents should be for parents that are honorable. Talking about the issue with a close friend is only slander if it's false. Sometimes you need to talk about these things in order to process them or they are going through something similar and want guidance or to just hear they aren't alone. I think you guys should read Matthew 18 where Jesus gives clear directions on how to gain a person back after they have sinned against you and "If the person still refuses to listen, take your case to the Church. Then if he or she won't accept the church's decision, treat that person as a pagan or a corrupt tax collector." He also says to forgive debt and talks about a king who forgave a servant but that servant wouldn't forgive one of his servants of the debt he owed. So he was thrown in jail. Jesus says to forgive from the heart but says nothing about having to have a relationship with them.
@Sith_Mimi
4 ай бұрын
Great episode 🫶🏼 would you mind adding the link for the book in description?
@Jeanhannkss
3 ай бұрын
I have to disagree with some of this. Abuse comes in many forms other than physical. My parent has personality disorders and I’ve given this parent many chances only for them to falsely call the police on me, try to kill my dog, drain my bank account, and change the locks on me all at the same time so my sister and I were homeless. I forgave this parent and years later they then threatened to take me to court for my children if I didn’t let them see my baby. Never said I wouldn’t but after that for my sanity and safety I cut ties. That’s only a portion of it. I will say I did take away that maybe I can honor my parent by not telling people what happened who know that parent.
@kybye11
2 ай бұрын
MISS YOU GUYS. PRAYING FOR YOU
@Ketevan_Sain
4 ай бұрын
Why should Joseph and Mary have had children together ?Is there any possibility that Joseph had those children before getting engaged with Mary ? ( English is not my first language so excuse me for my mistakes)
@RCGWho
4 ай бұрын
Matthew 13:55 and Mark 6:3 name four men called Jesus' brethren: James, Joses (short for Joseph Jr.), Simon, and Judas called Jude. Verse 56 mentions that Jesus had sisters. The sisters are not named, but since the word is plural there were at least two of them.
@Ketevan_Sain
4 ай бұрын
@@RCGWho I know that Jesus had brothers and sisters but I mean perhaps Joseph had already married before , had those children and then was engaged with Maria. Because I think Joseph was already old
@Hoopla29856
4 ай бұрын
The Heidi St.John podcast has a really good episode on this topic and she’s really good at tying everything back to Biblical principles and the sin that is abusing this “no contact” rule.
@alexakallman200
4 ай бұрын
Do you know which episode?
@daphne-w98
4 ай бұрын
great timing…
@DanielleDeniseYT
4 ай бұрын
Just clicked on the video, maybe you’ll discuss this, but what about toxic in laws?
@RCGWho
4 ай бұрын
Just tread lightly. My in laws are very liberal and we just don't agree on much. But I went off on my father in law I'm an email 25 or so years ago and I still regret it. He doesn't know Jesus and is now 80 an ailing. I'm still concerned my impatience and unkindness have stumbled jim toward Christ. In all your interactions think of honoring Christ first, not stumbling your in laws toward the Gospel 2nd, and how you feel last.
@RCGWho
4 ай бұрын
Fast and pray, too.
@Nayero26
4 ай бұрын
I need this. Pulling up my seat
@Phoebestraveltales
4 ай бұрын
Hi, this is quite personal but I want to ask for advice on how to deal with a situation of a narcissist, abusive parent? My mother had to run away from my father when I was 2 due to him beating her relentlessly and spiritually, emotionally abusing her too. I currently don’t have any contact with him because everytime I have tried it’s a gaslighting cycle! There’s also since never been any acknowledgement or apology!Truly asking what is the best way you think I can honor him without putting myself in danger emotionally/physically? Wouldn’t usually share this much online haha!
@JesusisKingRedeemerMessiah
4 ай бұрын
There is scripture on walking away. There are videos on sermons on this exact thing. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but many don’t understand true narcissism. Unless your a doctor or have personally survived it , you will not understand it. God told Jacob to walk away from his toxic father in law and go back to his land. Jacob did and they never spoke again. Matthew 10:34-39 speaks on putting God first before anyone. We can honor our parents by breaking those generational curses. We can honor them by being the parents they should have been to us. Let me know if you want Christian books and sermons on this very topic. I can send them or post them .
@Phoebestraveltales
4 ай бұрын
@@JesusisKingRedeemerMessiahthank you for your reply, i appreciate it! I would love to hear any recommendations for books or sermons on this topic! And I agree with you, I don’t use the word narcissist lightly at all, I think it’s often overused today.
@@PhoebestraveltalesTry searching this on KZitem …..Shoreline Church - Walking away with Jesus. Also try searching Time of Grace Ministry - What does God say to the Abused.
@kimbers1238
3 ай бұрын
Yall r going to get so much push back for this video but i am so proud of u for doing it anyway. Our generation is as bad as the LGBTQ thing. Because it feels like if out parents do things differently then what we want its cut off time. I say like the LGBTQ because large groups of people cheer u on for doing something that is just wrong. Of course not if there r serious issues
@shannonsuggs1152
4 ай бұрын
Question for open discussion amongst anyone wanting to chime in - we are called to go fourth and tell others about Jesus and what He’s done in our lives, what He’s brought us through. What if a large portion of our testimony has to do with the abuse suffered at the hands of parents? Is mentioning that considered dishonor to our parents, even if it is done in a merely factual but brief sort of way? I am only asking because when they mentioned that they’ve spoken publicly in a dishonorable way about their parents before, I can’t recall a time that I personally would’ve considered them to have been disrespectful or dishonorable, so I wasn’t sure if they were implying that anything even remotely negative was a dishonorable thing to do? I guess my question is… are we allowed to be honest and still be honorable?
@RCGWho
4 ай бұрын
I guess I would want the relationship restored and maybe seek permission to share about it? Unless it's private 1 on 1 counsel. Publicly speaking about it is probably shaming for the parents if it's not been talked out or resolved. I think your heart motive is important: is it to help someone in their relationship to their parents or to shame your parents and rant? (Rhetorical)
@RCGWho
4 ай бұрын
3 But know this, that in the last days difficult times will come, 2 for people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, arrogant, slanderers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 hardhearted, irreconcilable, slanderous, without self-control, savage, with no interest for what is good, 4 traitors, reckless, conceited, loving pleasure rather than loving God, 5 maintaining a form of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid these people 2 Timothy 3:1-5
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