The kid’s dad didn’t even go to court the day that they showed autopsy photos because he couldn’t bear to see them. Now they’re just out on the internet somewhere.
@sarahgeronimo4440
Жыл бұрын
That's heartbreaking 😔
@Riddle_wright
Жыл бұрын
As a father with a child who passed away, people would share photos of my son all the time off when he was on the hospital bed and i couldn’t handle it so i avoided social media for years. This woman disgusts me
@zillatattoo
Жыл бұрын
yes. you just stating facts?
@DouglasQuaid999
Жыл бұрын
@@zillatattoo🤓
@rainreign696
Жыл бұрын
@@zillatattoo 🤓
@artbyuniverse02
11 ай бұрын
In a scientific and detached way? Ask anyone who works in a job where they see dead children, like EMTs, Police, Coroners, etc. it’s NEVER emotionally detached. It’s sad. It’s tragic. It’s horrific. Every. Single. Time.
@Chonkems
6 ай бұрын
Officers have to act detached, but most of the time it's crushing. Never not seen an officer have a breakdown, or at least cry after they finally get back from a terrible call.
@Sp0rkWafflez
6 ай бұрын
Exactly. This is why these jobs have extremely high turnover rates or early deaths to stroke/heart attack/some other stress induced cause. These people have to "become detached" for the work and for the public but they aren't. Unless they are a psychopath.
@nyxonthestyx9825
6 ай бұрын
I work in a funeral home. It no longer becomes a "comfort the family, remain detatched/professional" type thing with kids. It becomes personal, even if you don't have kids yourself. It hits way harder. You're used to working with adults and the elderly, not children.
@egry3922
5 ай бұрын
I think of my own family when I see these things. I can never sleep knowing it's someone's reality and could very easily be my own. Makes you paranoid and driven by fear just trying to make sure it doesn't happen to you own
@Sp0rkWafflez
5 ай бұрын
@@nyxonthestyx9825 I can't imagine any job where it's "normal" or you become detached to everything because it's a child. You may cope with it better than other people because you *have* to but a child death is such a rarity to begin with especially a murder.
@retrogamingtime2812
Жыл бұрын
I love how she pulled the “education” card Lady if someone wants to be educated in autopsy work, they go to school for it and get permission to conduct research, not send pics of naked dead kids to each other.
@shelby5809
7 ай бұрын
that doesn't make it any less educational...? What are you even talking about?? lmfao
@clouds9914
7 ай бұрын
@shelby5809 selling pictures of that dead boy is not educational in the slightest. The point is if someone actually wanted to be educated in that sense, study it or research it. Not pay for a boys autopsy photos. That does nothing.
@shelby5809
7 ай бұрын
alright. fuck any arguments at all i guess. you're always 100% right after all@@clouds9914
@saoliath5000
6 ай бұрын
@@clouds9914 This. Even if someone wanted to actually research the case, they can request the information officially themselves. Her selling it makes it even more fucked up.
@hines182
5 ай бұрын
@@shelby5809it makes it significantly less educational lmao
@feraltaco4783
11 ай бұрын
Selling death photos is already iffy. Selling death photos of a violently murdered child is so horrible that I can't even form the right words to express how utterly disgusting this is.
@oof_man9954
4 ай бұрын
even a death photo of any human is Horrific. but yes it is horribly worse if its a DAM CHILD. Shes a sad excuse for a "human being" just as horrible if not worse than the mother
@feraltaco4783
4 ай бұрын
@@oof_man9954imo, she didn't take a life but she's damn near as bad by happily profiting from it.
@maepicnic2460
Ай бұрын
Who’s buying these? Because yk what if they’re buying it someone will continue to do it but we must catch them
@rosifernandez9552
Жыл бұрын
ADDITIONALLY, the MOTHER of Gannon came out and said that her son is not "a scientific experiment". The thought that the family has to relive the abuse of their child again by the hands of another selfish monster is sooooo sick.
@gagesons9006
Жыл бұрын
The mother is the one who did this to him WTF are you talking about?
@AnimusDesynched_751
Жыл бұрын
@@gagesons9006 *Step*-mother.
@llamaniaman4002
Жыл бұрын
It's fucking crazy how she justified this with "It's for scientific purposes 🤓" Like b!tch? Then go look for autopsies that are from body donors??? There is a literal research project dedicated to autopsies from willing donors 🤦🏾♀️ Snatching the pictures of a dead boy who was brutally murdered and claiming them as your research tools without the family's permission is demented and makes you look worse. Treating the boy and his family's love for him as an object for public viewing.
@Bess9779
Жыл бұрын
@@gagesons9006 He was staying with his dad & stepmother when he was murdered by that stepmom. He was very close to & had contact with his birth mom as well. I can see how some people got it confused.
@rhydondaddy
Жыл бұрын
@@gagesons9006 I am not sure you know what is going on
@japaneseambassador3562
Жыл бұрын
It's not a surprise that she's apologizing. Because 1. She was caught and 2. Her Patreon was shut down. She's not sorry. She couldn't be less sorry if she tried.
@RiruRana
Жыл бұрын
Literally this. She's not sorry about what she did, she just doesn't want the consequences from being caught.
@Vashtiian
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@supersmashseandx1991
Жыл бұрын
Definition of crocodile tears
@evelyn38927
Жыл бұрын
exactly, in her video she didn’t even seem like she knew it was wrong
@amir.hazwan
Жыл бұрын
I'm a forensic dentist, and even I'm reluctant to use autopsy photos for teaching even though I'm allowed to (to a certain extent) out of respect for the dead. This woman is despicable.
@charliebat
Жыл бұрын
no because i want to be a medical examiner but the moment people want to see i’m probably not going to share those photos unless the person provided explicit permission through donating or having a statement saying it’s okay to show the photos for education or something
@aserta
Жыл бұрын
As a teaching instrument, with approval, and only in that context, that's ok. That's passing knowledge so everyone can benefit from X or Y, but that woman... despicable is the best case scenario. Psychopath is more like and pathetic.
@transsnack
Жыл бұрын
I've had to see autopsy photos as part of my EMT training, and it was always, ALWAYS, shown with massive respect to the dead. Hell, unless it was a discussion of facial injuries, we almost never even saw their faces, so that their identity would remain private. What she was doing was absolutely disgusting, and I only hope that the family can heal from this.
@seriouscat2231
Жыл бұрын
Is everyone really sure that all "true crime" is in fact true? This alone causes me to not react at all to what anyone's saying.
@sorryimsosad
10 ай бұрын
@@seriouscat2231idek what you mean but yes this situation is fucked up and is true crime. Not television fodder. It is a real crime that happened. Your question came off both confusing and unempathetic
@katialowtas
Жыл бұрын
God bless you Charlie for using your platform to call out the scum of the Earth. If I posted what I want to say about her, I would get banned. I am full of rage.
@danajessop2835
2 ай бұрын
I am too. My grandson is the age of that child and is very similar to him. That trial was very hard to see. I can't imagine wanting to see that kind of info.
@TankZappa
Жыл бұрын
Oh god I know of Zav Girl. She was spreading false rumors about different people during the Delphi murder case. She was tweeting pictures of people she thought could be the killer based on a poor quality video. Every single person she publicly labeled as a suspect was innocent. Edit: The Delphi police actually had to publicly tell people like Zav Girl to stop. This is not the first time she crossed the line...
@CinematicInsanity
Жыл бұрын
Jesus! Reminds me of that TikTok “psychic” that was trying to convince the world that that teacher was responsible for the murders at Idaho College
@itsasquid
Жыл бұрын
Holy shit
@aniphoenix9474
Жыл бұрын
I don't remember the last time I've seen Charlie so unironically mad about a situation.
@vegetashairline3060
Жыл бұрын
Yeah fr, this one definitely hit Charlie in a specific way.
@jesuschrist5384
Жыл бұрын
Charlie has a long history of being particularly disgusted when children are involved in being mistreated or wronged.
@mikaela2143
Жыл бұрын
@@jesuschrist5384🙏
@GamerConnoisseurRei
Жыл бұрын
@@jesuschrist5384children and Customer service workers
@scotts_e
Жыл бұрын
Probably that girl drunk driving
@fycat
Жыл бұрын
This isn't even desensitization. This is just straight-up brainrot. There's a HUGE difference between people who are interested in True Crime due to morbid curiosity and people who make True Crime their entire personality/career and believe sharing and staring at photos of real murdered children is just being quirky or edgy and act shocked when the rest of the world tells them it's unacceptable.
@ImpulsiveLimbo
Жыл бұрын
Honestly most of the people that work in the fields with this sort of stuff (injuries/death of adults and children in the most brutal ways) HAVE to look at everything in a scientific way, but they go home and think about some of the worst cases for years. EMS workers have paid therapy most of the time even tho it's their job it's still mind and heart shattering being exposed daily
@kattastic9999
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call it _unacceptable,_ I can accept that kind of behavior, because I can accept that people can disgusting cold hearted callous monsters. Which is what they are. But I accept that. Just leave them be, there's no point engaging with them, they don't care and likely never will.
@miauBLEACH
Жыл бұрын
i'm interested in true crime because it is actually helpful with finding out who could or could not be trusted. most of the time it's very obvious, but a lot of times it's the people you'd never suspect. Thanks to true crime and just trials in general i've found out and learned that my mother is not to be trusted because of her narcissistic behaviour. She would do anything to look good in front of others and she lied to me and my sister throughout my whole life.
@jtokes9400
Жыл бұрын
Nahh you’re gatekeeping morbid curiosity
@ImpulsiveLimbo
Жыл бұрын
@@jtokes9400 she literally made money by obtaining the documents and photos of a deceased child and put them behind a paywall. At least other creators have actually donated money from their content on other people's loved one's deaths to the families that were affected.
@hoo7797
10 ай бұрын
It's worth noting that the people who would pay to see those autopsy photos wouldn't be paying to analyze them scientifically, but rather to be spooked, like it's a god-damn horror movie: they feel curious and want to look at the horrible images of a murdered kid, not because it would be interesting to analyze, but because they know it's traumatizing and want to feel that fear. What gets me is that I think she knows that, and when she saw the autopsy photos she must have thought to herself "Ooh, this is gonna be so spooky! People will want to see this!" And I bet she was right about that, sadly.
@witchythings.__.-ii3yg
9 ай бұрын
Either that or they get off to it. I’ve seen people comment on gore posts on twitter (I haven’t gone specifically looking for those but I like one petty school fight and suddenly gore is on my timeline) and they’re always horrible degenerate beings. It’s horrible to think what kinds of people exist
@Lovely_Shadz
8 ай бұрын
I’m sure there are some sick people who were interested in the photos but I do feel sorry for the people who were interested in the analytic things on her patreon, only to be scared, triggered and possibly traumatized by the photos
@elsvaughn7959
5 ай бұрын
I really don't think that "spooky" should be the word used to describe the feeling someone gets when seeing a little kid who was hurt, over and over again, by someone who was supposed to take care of them. If that IS the word to describe what an individual feels when seeing something of the sort, that person either lacks any sort of depth or their depths know no bounds from which they can return.
@MrEmpty-eq1se
4 ай бұрын
I'll go a step further and say that the ones who payed for it are creeps, there's no other explanation why they would got to the lengths of paying for it. Those who had some resemblance of morbid curiosity would just search for free stuff, it's not like there isn't any on the internet, but to actively want the pictures of the kid is just something a degenerate and mentally ill person would do, so creeps
@khandiieamerson1039
4 ай бұрын
Or maybe seeing dollar signs....
@TheButTickler
Жыл бұрын
Desensitization + obsession makes people really scary. People can convince themselves into doing ANYTHING if they’re obsessed enough
@spider-mancantsee5875
Жыл бұрын
@@SussyRobloxianXDnice bait.
@blakewhite3131
Жыл бұрын
Well put! I almost never venture to true crime channels im not familiar with, because every time i do the tone is so disingenuous its sickening. They seem more interested in the psychology of the killers rather than the memory of the victims. A few key points I look for in a respectful true crime channel is titling the videos with the names of the victim(s) rather than the killer, researching what the family has said on who the victim was, and leaving descriptions of SA very vague. These are very good signs that the channel puts time and effort into respecting the victim and their families.
@SussyRobloxianXD
Жыл бұрын
@@blakewhite3131I didn't ask
@turboshazed7370
Жыл бұрын
@@SussyRobloxianXDyou are gonna be used as a human spittoon. No one is gonna wait till you ask... That's like being respectful to a festering pile of feces.
@AnonD38
Жыл бұрын
She probably didn’t even see the photos, she just uploaded all the files and the photos were included without her knowledge. Don’t attribute to malice what could just be incompetence.
@Little_Muscle_mummy
Жыл бұрын
I used to work at a funeral home, in particular transfers. I’ve had to take children in my care multiple times. Every time I try to remember a certain child all I hear and see is the family members wailing. How someone could willing want to see let alone pay/ charge for photos that should only be available for official purposes is beyond me. I promised the families their loved ones would be safe with me and that includes not giving any information about them or their deceased loved ones to anyone. I’m so sorry this child is getting exploited in his death. Let the child rest. He died in a horrific way.
@KateTheGreatOf1988
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for thinking of the families before anything else. I have a tremendous amount of respect for anyone who has worked in that field. ♥️♥️
@Bandrik
Жыл бұрын
Well said. I was thinking about people like you that have personally seen and dealt with these kinds of things in a professional and respectful manner, and wondering what your thoughts on it would be. Thank you for sharing, it gives me relief.
@gilliesiut2332
Жыл бұрын
At the same point in time this is all a matter of public record and information everyone has access to. I don’t think she did anything wrong as she was presenting the full case. Unfortunately that includes the gruesome aspects
@sweettaters243
Жыл бұрын
Afghanistan was an interesting time for me
@KateTheGreatOf1988
Жыл бұрын
@@gilliesiut2332 I don’t think anyone is disputing the fact that she was legally within her right to request those records, however, with these kind of cases, especially when they involve minors, those photos are sealed. The Watts case also took place in CO and there’s a reason why you cannot get those photos, even if you request them. Obviously this is strictly a morality issue (for now anyway). My hope is that the public outrage will cause other states to follow FL’s suit and exempt autopsy photos from public record requests. You can watch the trial, read the autopsy report and study the body diagram if you want to get a better understanding of the case and Gannon’s injuries. The photos are not necessary and no one should be profiting off of them.
@theojackson.
Жыл бұрын
"Putting the evidence behind a paywall meant added security." Yeah, securing that only creeps weird enough to pay for photos of a tortured child will see it.
@davidwitdaguap3268
Жыл бұрын
True but I mean anyone can request the info if they wanted to
@warlordofbritannia
Жыл бұрын
@@davidwitdaguap3268 That just makes it even worse
@SussyRobloxianXD
Жыл бұрын
@@warlordofbritannia I did ur mom if that makes it worse
@davidwitdaguap3268
Жыл бұрын
@@warlordofbritannia yea there should be a back round check on the people requesting the info, but as it stand rn anyone can just send in a request and get all the evidence
@warlordofbritannia
Жыл бұрын
@@davidwitdaguap3268 No, I mean the fact that she’s charging for publicly available information is what makes it even worse.
@Dinohandfreakouts
6 ай бұрын
I knew Gannon, I went to preschool with him. He moved away and his parents got divorced. It’s disgusting what happened to him. I hope his stepmother rots in prison for the rest of her life. I feel for his mom and dad. RIP Gannon.
@redbarron1010
Жыл бұрын
As far as desensitization, I have been a nurse for almost 40 years and I couldn’t barely hear this story, let alone want to see those horrible photos or details. Poor little child is being exploited for money. As evil as shit.
@preacherluis2214
Жыл бұрын
You know, a lot of technology you have contains materials mined by children. I can't believe people today only care about their kind. If you truly hate children exploited for money, you should start doing research and due diligence on companies and how they buy their materials for their products. Have a good day sir.
@roberthan5109
Жыл бұрын
Even if she didn't show any pictures of the boys body, she still saw a tragedy as nothing more than an opportunity to get some extra money and promote her patron. She saw something awful happen and only saw profit. That is absolutely disgusting
@voluntaryismistheanswer
Жыл бұрын
So... All true crime content creators should be demonitized, then? Interesting take away.
@mfavingerfv2202
Жыл бұрын
@@voluntaryismistheanswerprobably shit is stupid as fuck
@arandomcommenter412
Жыл бұрын
Hey, money is money. Capitalism isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.
@JaWe-qx3td
Жыл бұрын
@@gh0stdollor some people just don't care?
@weyline2620
Жыл бұрын
@@arandomcommenter412girl there's monetisation then whatever the fuck this is
@jessbellis9510
Жыл бұрын
She's treating these autopsy photos like it's a case from the Victorian era where no one is affected, instead of a CURRENTLY ONGOING TRIAL WHERE THE FAMILY IS STILL GRIEVING.
@Spookecat
Жыл бұрын
@@gjfjfkdksdjjdkeke1309hey bud, you’ve got the brain rot. Call your doctor
@wxb1
Жыл бұрын
@@gjfjfkdksdjjdkeke1309what are you even saying
@marcelberes469
Жыл бұрын
@@gjfjfkdksdjjdkeke1309I had a stroke reading this.
@yggdrasil4986
Жыл бұрын
@@gjfjfkdksdjjdkeke1309 ….what?
@LuluTheCorgi
Жыл бұрын
@@gjfjfkdksdjjdkeke1309 take a shower and touch grass You can get better I promise
@merchernel123
Жыл бұрын
She had followed the situation for years actually. Also the trial is over, which makes all this so much worse. The trial is over. We all already heard the awful details from the medical examiner. It was devastating enough the first time. There was absolutely no reason for her to request and post the pictures. There were diagrams she could have used. The family of Gannon asked her to take the pictures down, but she didn't until Patreon did it for her. Just disgusting...
@revisit8480
Жыл бұрын
Why did you listen to the medial examiner? HOW DARE YOU LISTEN TO PUBLIC INFORMATION FOR FREE. YOU ARE AN EVIL PERSON. See how dumb this is to get upset over? Besides: Critikal is making money from drumming up some juciy drama - over a dead kid. Have fun with that thought. If she followed the case, and wanted the case files, that's fine. If people wanted the files and she paywalled it, that's also fine. It's even nicer that she paywalled it, because not EVERYBODY has access to it then. People don't wanna pay can ask the police, no biggie.
@jessestrobel2
Жыл бұрын
At that point it's just poor taste on her end. Reality is grim and fucked up in many many ways and we can either silence reality / keep the internet squeaky clean and masturbation-friendly, or protect the rights of people like this to disseminate fucked up pictures obtained through legal channels. Honestly I'd rather the internet include the ability to see horrors like this than to not; because without the barbed edges we just have advertising and purported moral highness (Carbon Neutral Since 2007!) despite shoveling equally yet different forms of mental torment in its many vague forms. I dunno, seeing 700 articles telling a denomination of men that they suck and are responsible for all manner of atrocity is pretty exhausting and the ignorance of climbing suicide rates proves that there's double standards everywhere. But by all means, keep queens paid and push articles about how Findom is perfectly ethical.
@sparkleliptatochip7788
Жыл бұрын
We followed the trial live, every day, and like you said--I don't need to see the pictures, based on the comprehensive, stomach-churning testimony of the coroner and their autopsy report. Anyone who'd listened long enough to it and then think "gee, I wanna see that!" has a big problem.
@leigh8479
Жыл бұрын
I would just like to add, she also reuploaded them several times after patreon deleted them
@merchernel123
Жыл бұрын
@@sparkleliptatochip7788 right
@WeepingGuacamole
Жыл бұрын
If she really had good intentions, she would have given the money made from this to the victims family.
@kaysee2428
Жыл бұрын
I feel like if she had good intentions she wouldn't have done this. I get having morbid curiosity to an extent (not about this tho) but distributing it??? And profiting off that little boy's pain and suffering?? No. If she wanted to see for herself, fine. She should have kept it to herself. She invaded that families privacy for money.
@akamyaku
Жыл бұрын
💯
@paperlacejane
Жыл бұрын
No way would the family want money that was raised from the monetisation of his autopsy.
@TheKStone1
Жыл бұрын
If she had good intentions, she would not have released the photos.
@OhNoJoshEdits
Жыл бұрын
“Ppl like me are interested in dead child corpses from a scientific perspective. Other ppl just have to *pay* …”
@whimzi4832
Жыл бұрын
Dont forget she hit us with the "do you want me to kill myself" ao you know still exploiting human feelings and gaslighting
@lazarus_reversal
Жыл бұрын
that's not what gaslighting is (gaslighting is when you make someone question their sanity/judgement), but it does still display a disturbingly intense degree of manipulation.
@crispy7499
Жыл бұрын
Threatening suicide while already displaying an overall low value as a human being, zero morals and low sympathy is wild Do you think people will seriously care? You come off as a terrible person and try to make people feel BAD for you? It's wild to me
@Funkiverse
Жыл бұрын
She should, seppuku was a thing
@plutonium09
Жыл бұрын
“Yes”
@efu2046
Жыл бұрын
@@FunkiverseSeppuku is for people protecting their honor. That woman doesn't have a shred of it
@sarajane4708
Жыл бұрын
Seeing the body of a child whether you're a judge,a cop in any field shakes you,you always remember. Her excitement is disturbing and you're fully correct in calling it out. The system needs changing ,the fact she could even get them and put them out is horrific.
@manymustfall
Жыл бұрын
I remember when Explore With Us just started promoting their patreon for access to uncensored videos, etc. cuz YT hates true crime and anything that discuss morbid stuff. There were people on the comment section that were disappointed that they DIDN'T SHOW GORE like autopsy photos and other stuff. EWU posted an apology in their community section to the people disappointed BUT HELD THEIR GROUND ON NOT SHOWING GORE. This whole situation is literally the opposite of what EWU had to go through.
@spoonherr
Жыл бұрын
EWU is very respectable
@evapo7
Жыл бұрын
And I applaud and respect them for it. What happened is what matters, the story is what matters. Getting peoples interest by showing bodies and corpses is absolutely disgusting as a thought alone and I’m glad they refused to do so.
@hellothisismufin
Жыл бұрын
EWU is how I found out about the Zav girl situation. He's holding firm to that care for the victims
@littlewitchyfox
Жыл бұрын
EWU is one of my favorite KZitemrs. Professional, respectful, informative. Just all around super incredible
@SirAsdf
Жыл бұрын
Even with EWU, I feel they go a bit far with their depictions of the crimes.
@ZhuLeeDTT
Жыл бұрын
Even in the best case scenario of her charging for the longform video that has the autopsy photos, she still had the audacity to say "I don't see your child as a child" TO HIS FUCKING DAD.
@fuzzynuttz5092
Жыл бұрын
Yea I think she views this case as nothing more than a spectacle and a way to make money
@christopherm4739
Жыл бұрын
@Susnation532bro could you don't on THIS video of all videos?
@googleit1131
Жыл бұрын
@@christopherm4739bots are unstoppable. Nothing except the heat death of the universe would stop them.
@kirbyleggington7205
Жыл бұрын
@Susnation532 find god
@peterk.2108
Жыл бұрын
genuine psychopath
@ImagineExisting2008
2 ай бұрын
Dude Gannon doesn’t deserve this random stranger selling his autopsy photos. Rest in peace Gannon.
@kekgot
Жыл бұрын
The fact that she's charging for free information that anyone can request, (if anyone even is that curious as she says) somehow makes this even worse, cause now she's profiting off of this child's death too.
@wsrcultivation
Жыл бұрын
You are typically charged when requesting public documents from the government.
@ConsciousExpression
Жыл бұрын
I don't think FOIA requests are free. They're allowed to charge a reasonable fee for access to the information IIRC.
@JamesQMurphy
Жыл бұрын
I'm not defending her choice to show the photos, but she's charging for the finished product (the video), not the images themselves. Had she blurred out the videos like most true crime channels do, we wouldn't have an issue.
@bluetiger2468
Жыл бұрын
@@JamesQMurphy All the true crime channels I watch use images already online, they don't show images that haven't already been released to the public. It seems like balancing on morality to get gruesome never-released-publicly images (meant to be used as proof the police didn't fake evidence) and then using that for monetary gain. Even if they blur it. Because as soon as you post something like that online, then the victims of the family/friends have a higher chance to stumble upon those traumatic images or for an unhinged subscriber just sending the family/friends those images. Basically what she did was unnecessary and will only result in her profiting while the victims are retraumatized by imagines that were not originally already released to the public or leaked.
@CatalinaFOIA
Жыл бұрын
The FOIA request file in this case was $425.
@sardsvib
2 ай бұрын
As someone whose ✨special interest✨ is true crime and unsolved mysteries, this is such gross behaviour.
@RaeCharm
Жыл бұрын
She wasn't looking for autopsy photos, but she thought she'd sell them because she's just *quirky* like that.
@TGIFrank
Жыл бұрын
As someone whose sister died in a cycling accident it's bone chilling to me that someone might be able to request photos of her remains and sell them on patreon. This shit is ghoulish and if she still has a career today I will have lost the last shred of faith I had in youtube/patreon's quality control programs.
@RaeCharm
Жыл бұрын
@@TGIFrank It's truly absolutely despicable. I can't imagine having the audacity and absolute lack of empathy it would take to do something so cruel. That said, the internet always has a monthly batch of dozens of weirdos who are revealed to be doing heinous shit. I'm sorry for your loss, and I hope that there's some solace in that... anyone willing to disrespect someone's loved ones like that, they will face immense well-deserved scrutiny and criticism.
@JJCaustic
Жыл бұрын
true crime enthusiasts are demented like that
@ThatGreenLED
Жыл бұрын
@@JJCaustic not all of them are like that, but I get your point.
@nocturalExplorer
Жыл бұрын
What a goofball!
@tired_babra
Жыл бұрын
Not only it is a genuenly sick thing to do in general, but not everyone just pays for these photos out of morbid curiosity. There are terrible people on the internet, including people who would probably jack off to those pictures, kiddy fiddlers, "people" with some sort of gore f3tish. But of course she doesnt care abaut that as long as she gets money.
@arissa1762
3 ай бұрын
exactly. the possibility that she might have been *counting* on it, even! absolutely awful.
@karlvassar-booth8860
Жыл бұрын
There is definitely a difference between morbid curiosity and actually trying to help. If she wanted to help and be informative she should just be a coroner.
@agentpaper8130
Жыл бұрын
Morbid curiosity is just going to live leaks or rotten, this wasn't morbid curiosity. She posted it with profit in mind.
@RxalisM
Жыл бұрын
Morbid curiosity also posted a thing in their community stating that people who payed in an attempt to see that type of footage would not be seeing it as they understand it’s not right it show it
@XxX-vi9if
Жыл бұрын
Hell, she could've just shown a coroner report - something that is easily accessible and would sound better to pay for than child death pictures. It's still morbid but far less fucked up
@yangpaan453
Жыл бұрын
What she should or shouldnt do is not up to you. Freedom of Information Act. If she wants to make true crime documentaries and submit requests for case details/photos then she can. She doesnt need to become a coroner and she doesnt need your validation.
@yangpaan453
Жыл бұрын
@@XxX-vi9if The photos are available because there are cases where the report is not consistent with the wounds. And it is always better to have more than 1 pair of eyes to confirm the coroner didn't either mess up or lie to cover up a conspiracy or was simply paid to do so.
@VerchielxKanda
Жыл бұрын
So glad her patreon was shut down. That is absolutely disgusting. She doesn't deserve a single cent.
@Dragonwolfworm
Жыл бұрын
One of the few times I agree with patreon on shutting down a page. I'm hoping her youtube channel gets banned too.
@msimon_1
Жыл бұрын
i mean, a 6 foot rope isnt free
@xraygolo
Жыл бұрын
And she deserves a cent-tence
@walterwhite9865
Жыл бұрын
@@msimon_1💀
@TheMaestroOfMortification.
Жыл бұрын
As the child of a narcissist i will never be surprised at how evil some people are, the worst part is some are able to hide it for a long time.
@iadorexyou
Жыл бұрын
it's still sometimes a surprise to see how far they will go to please their ego
@redactedrepository
Жыл бұрын
ah you too? who was it, your mom or your dad?
@magicalgrim3471
Жыл бұрын
Hope you’re doing better these days
@TheMaestroOfMortification.
Жыл бұрын
@ryleyjohnson606 both unfortunately, it took a long time to catch dad, he was a cop for 35 years and retired a hero, now I cringe wondering how he treated others.
@TheMaestroOfMortification.
Жыл бұрын
@magicalgrim3471 way better, one thing I definitely take away from it, it happened but I refuse to get stuck in that victim mentality they chronically live In.
@Jay-pi5vq
4 ай бұрын
I don't understand how she isn't liable legally. She sold presumably nude photos of a deceased minor. How is that legal???
@de341f6
18 күн бұрын
It's because upon Gannon's death, he ceased to be a child in the legal sense. He literally has no more legal personality. The pictures were not exploitative either, but the Freedom of Information laws in the US allow these types of photos to belong to the public domain.
@jessie167
Жыл бұрын
As someone who does autopsies like these for a living, I’ve also had to hear the pain in the voices of the victims family members when they call and ask how random assholes on the internet get these photos and records. It’s people like her who further traumatize the families and it’s heinous. Imagine thinking that profiting from someone’s dead child is okay…. Just because you can request records doesn’t mean you should be able to. Disgusting.
@MadNlGER
Жыл бұрын
So why doesn’t the government just stop selling them to the public? Bc the government is 100% charging per page per copy per record So are they not just as depraved ? Immoral ? How is it any different?
@lovely-0009
Жыл бұрын
How DO they get the info? Don't they have to be the parents or guardians? I thought there'd be more security around it
@sergioccs74
Жыл бұрын
@@lovely-0009 Is all public records, that's how you can catch corruption in a police investigation, incompetence and so on, it's not actually a bad idea. The problem is people using these kind of things for profit.
@lovely-0009
Жыл бұрын
@@sergioccs74 that's insane
@radiationshepherd
Жыл бұрын
True crime is a pretty effed up phenomena
@streetroach727
Жыл бұрын
Wow, I actually can’t believe someone could legitimately profit over a murder case like that. It’s not like she was posting a news story and earned something off of it, she sold pictures of a corpse like it’s a peep show or something. “Fresh pictures of a murdered child over here! Get it while it’s still a controversy!” It’s truly sickening
@mr-simog4736
Жыл бұрын
Her eyebrows are a crime on their own. I want an apology video for those too...
@mrpepe2645
Жыл бұрын
Fr
@vglycorpse
Жыл бұрын
LMAO damn pencil strokes
@intoxicatedwithfear8363
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@CTxHasACoolChannel
Жыл бұрын
Shit look like the nike symbol 💀
@Yippememes
Жыл бұрын
@@CTxHasACoolChannelLMAO
@amassivenerd5933
Жыл бұрын
I recently went through something horrible with the death of my sister, which was a case kinda similar to this. The idea of a person like this making money off of the autopsy of my baby sister makes me physically sick. I can't even fathom wanting to profit off of this poor family and this tragic incident. My heart goes out to the family of the victim, and i hope this woman gets her account deleted
@dragonsrule20201
Жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to you too, that's an awful thing to experience. I hope your sister and Gannon are resting peacefully ❤️
@marcosbrandan7134
Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry for your loss,I hope you are okay
@RilanMcCreight
Жыл бұрын
so sorry for your loss were here if you ever need to talk
@lil.bunnii
Жыл бұрын
:< sending virtual hugs
@andrewlightfoot1731
Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for your loss.
@smokejc
Жыл бұрын
That fact that she thought this was okay is really infuriating.
@Temulon
Жыл бұрын
People are interested in why heinous crimes occur, the people involved and the act itself, like staring slack jawed at a train wreck, hoping to see the gore. If they're willing to pay for the information, why not sell it to them? People forget that courtrooms are open to the public, anyone can watch the trial, if seating is available, and anyone can request trial records because they are available to the public. All a person needs is to know is where the trial took place, the date and the case number. You'll need to pay for transcripts and other items you receive, but that's basically all there is. But you'll ask "What about privacy for the victims family?". Then why are they available to the public? The courts are making the information available but if you request said information, you're a bad person?
@Purriah
Жыл бұрын
@@Temulon Yes, that does make you a bad person.
@Temulon
Жыл бұрын
@@Purriah In your opinion. Don't forget that with your opinion plus one dollar, I can buy a Pepsi.
@BananaGusFringFan
Жыл бұрын
@@Temulonyes dummy. Fact that u can do something legally doesn't mean its morally good or u should do it.
@Temulon
Жыл бұрын
@@Jackson-bz3sw If someone is upset seeing photos of a dead child, why are they paying for it? No one was harmed in any way by what this woman did. She offered photos for sale to people that wanted to see them. If photos of dead children upset you, don't buy them. It would be the same as saying that you find a certain movie objectionable. Instead of saving your money and not seeing the movie, you wish to the movie to be removed so that no one can see it. Stay in your own lane.
@JinxTheWriter
4 ай бұрын
I love you for weeding thru these awful youtubers. This is sick.
@MMfan4ever101
Жыл бұрын
Also just to clarify, the trial has been over for about two months now. Letecia was found guilty on all counts and got life in prison without the possibility of parole!! 💙
@acutelilmint8035
Жыл бұрын
thank god.
@kiingdomkey3857
Жыл бұрын
what was her sentence?
@p.n.k.-rokuza400
Жыл бұрын
@@kiingdomkey3857Life without parole. She deserves every second of that.
@Theindomitablehisashi
Жыл бұрын
@@kiingdomkey3857 She got life in prison without the possibility of parole.
@ronswasonbutcuter4474
Жыл бұрын
Hope she rots in prison and the other inmates get some good licks in
@barbaratindell9808
Жыл бұрын
Gannon’s parents and others who loved him have been through enough. His dad said in the interview, please leave Gannon alone, he’s never done anything wrong to anyone. Thank you for sharing this.
@konner4908
Жыл бұрын
Even though these stories are sad, and drop my mood down quite a bit, I think Charlie bringing light to these situations is a very good thing.
@hoodini.k8070
Жыл бұрын
I agree the world is a fucked up place it’s good to know about these things so we are not blind
@Victor-qk7mw
Жыл бұрын
2.3 M views in 20 hours is amazing. Makes me feel that this video alone is doing some justice already
@El_IF_B_2
Жыл бұрын
It’s a big reason I’ve been a Charlie subscriber for so long. I’d never hear about half of this stuff without him breaking it down in these vids
@edmxero2029
Жыл бұрын
Big brain take
@theregenedmoogles741
Жыл бұрын
I like to think that Charlie is doing a service to others by putting these fuckers on blast on the internet and shaming them for their evil ways. As they should be put down and publicly shame and given a reason why they suck speech by Charlie. He's doing God's work
@snoopyspirit
Жыл бұрын
I don't know whether you have looked at her other lives but she streams for hours upon hours about stupid and nonsensical details, making up scenarios as though they are real and showing things that don't even matter to the case, acting as though they're the piece that will break the case. I'm talking 10 hours, 7 hours, 6 hours. It's insane. She's insane, IMO.
@coolguyhino92
Жыл бұрын
“...You were so preoccupied with whether or not you could, you didn’t stop to think if you should"
@JunkieRadioExclusive
Жыл бұрын
That fact she sat there an edited a whole video boils my blood
@chocomelo454
Жыл бұрын
yeah how do you not like, when you're checking if everything is cut and timed properly, think, "I fucked up." and remove the fucking photos. if she HAD to put photos of Gannon, why couldn't she just put photos of him when he was ALIVE?? sometimes there are anatomical photos drawn that point to where any injuries on a body are and those ARE shown sometimes because they don't show THE BODY. they're just sketches of a generic human that's the same size and age of the person, and have lines pointing to any injuries and then have subtitles written over the line to say what it is. Like, I remember in the Gabriel Fernandez documentary they showed what his sketch looked like, and it was non-graphic and had a generic person that was meant to represent Gabriel. and that was used bc they were TALKING ABOUT THE INJURIES HE HAD!!!
@JunkieRadioExclusive
Жыл бұрын
@@chocomelo454 yah this women is absolutely disgusting
@hawaigwabi3899
10 ай бұрын
Facts! Edits it rewatches it and be like mmmhh yep that's perfect Sick!!!
@mnichu8364
Жыл бұрын
This feels like a "sorry that i got caught" type of apology.
@LegallyBlindGaming727
Жыл бұрын
all apology videos/in general apologies are
@jackapfel4645
Жыл бұрын
@@LegallyBlindGaming727not really
@JackJones-bz4jl
Жыл бұрын
That's all criminals
@jennsyk7520
Жыл бұрын
Sorry not sorry.
@Youll_Love_It_At_Levitz
Жыл бұрын
More like "sorry if you were offended". I don't think she had any reasonable expectation or made any real attempt to keep this secret. She just didn't see anything wrong with her behavior.
@zobugz
11 ай бұрын
I always knew that regular people can get sensitive information like that, but I feel like they tell you you can't duplicate, share, or sell it?
@Faerghus.
Жыл бұрын
So I have a degree in forensic chemistry and part of my degree requirements was a medical emergency & death analysis class, as well as several anthropology classes that went over basic crime scene investigation/processing. Part of those classes was to view MANY images of deceased individuals, adults and children alike, in addition to actual crime scene photos to discuss the material and analyze the situations. Yes, these things are interesting because of the science and it's important to look at these things from an objective POV in order to truly dissect what we're discussing, not only so we can understand on the most basic of levels, but also because there are individuals who go into these things and take this home with them and carry it with them emotionally. But every single one of us who went into it understood that while these are part of the course and the job and the class, we all went about it in a respectful way because the loss of life is horrible, but even more when people die in the horrible ways that I've seen. My classmates and I were eager to learn, but never eager to know that people regularly died in these sorts of ways or that these injuries are commonplace. While there isn't anything wrong with discussing the details of a case, I feel like it's almost a widely accepted thing amongst most people that showing photos of the actual deceased to individuals who view the video as nothing more than entertainment is disrespectful and vulgar.
@cheatermccheat6378
Жыл бұрын
There's a level of professionalism that separates people like us and these KZitemrs. These KZitemrs are hobbyists, making money from an interest they have. They have no skin in the game in the real world. When you're actually in the thick of it, out at an actual scene, working the actual toughest physical/emotional jobs there are, yes you can become hardened to it and compartmentalise things in a way that protects your sanity, but you do so in a way that does not remove your empathy or moral compass. These KZitemrs are detached in a completely different way. This woman has become detached in a way that has removed her empathy and moral compass. These people are not professionals, they don't have the skills required to be dealing with sensitive information. Again, they're not professionals, they're hobbyists and they don't have the slightest clue. There are many sociopathic people in the true crime community, they don't know how to handle or conduct themselves in a professional manner around sensitive information and delicate situations.
@virginiad.1911
Жыл бұрын
You’re right, the difference is, That’s the right time and place for those difficult images to be shared. Some good is coming from it, and everyone present is expected to be respectful and humble.
@R8DYSETGO
Жыл бұрын
I completely agree. I wish the rest of the world looked at it this way
@domolad771
Жыл бұрын
Ye you do to actually help and it probably takes a troll on yous anyway. I shouldn't be able to access these pictures not because they are horrific (they are) but because the memory of this innocent child should be a pleasant one for the outside world, to show him respect and his family and friends that loved him respect. Idk about curiosity that was a kid and there is a line you don't cross.
@prim_manga9885
Жыл бұрын
Did that not ruin your mental health? I don’t think I could step outside after seeing images like that, especially regularly common place horrible things 😭?
@bozo83769
Жыл бұрын
She's the kind of person that would dig up a grave and charge people to see it.
@VetementsEth
Жыл бұрын
And you the person that would want to see it
@bozo83769
Жыл бұрын
@VetementsEth I didn't buy her patreon so thats just a dumbass statement.
@dripapproved1582
Жыл бұрын
It’s funny how this has historical accuracy to back it.
@Steelface97
Жыл бұрын
She kinda did already
@pointyheadYT
Жыл бұрын
I'd say what she actually did is way worse than digging someone's grave up.
@isaacgame7304
Жыл бұрын
As soon as Charlie said "the autopsy photos weren't the ONLY thing, but was apart of everything available to the case." That's all I needed to hear. I know damn well she's not the only one who does this type of thing, and she won't be the last crime youtuber to do such work.
@Shalyn-ln9tu
Жыл бұрын
The problem isn't because they were shared, it's public record and free. It's the part where she is charging people to view it. The part where she says "the autopsy photos are part of the records." She's pushing off the responsibility, but she deliberately pay walled the photos themselves as well. She didn't need to provide the photos at all. Pay for what is free and profiting from public record of death is not okay. There is a difference when it's clearly someone trying to inform the public, but they should get paid for that work. She obviously doesn't deserve it since it wasn't handled right
@batacumba
Жыл бұрын
@@Shalyn-ln9tu my understanding is part of the reason KZitemrs charge for that stuff is that they’re not allowed to show it on KZitem so they aren’t gonna get paid their usual ad revenue so to make up for that they make sensitive content available to their Patreon subscribers. I know a lot of people find it distasteful but as someone who’s familiar with the true crime community and how restrictive KZitem can be I can understand doing the Patreon thing. And to be fair people are obsessed with this sht and will gladly pay $5 a month to pore over case records and crime scene photos. And these true crime creators are not doing anything that true crime shows and the news haven’t already done since forever so unless you wanna take issue with all that content too then I dunno. Seems like certain people are kinda picking and choosing what to be mad about.
@somepersonwhodosenot
Жыл бұрын
Plagued moth does the same thing off the top of my head
@Shalyn-ln9tu
Жыл бұрын
@@batacumba they can lay the details of a case without actual crime photos, we had to do it all the time in College. I don't agree with the censoring because it's supposed to be uncomfortable. It's wrong to do these things, but we need to learn from them. You still don't need to charge people for something that is accessible and free. It's different when crimes shows do it, because actual professionals are there to explain why things are done a certain way. Having people who give out unneeded bias thoughts are the reason why there is such a disconnect between the average citizen and Law/first responders/investigators.
@0000i1
Жыл бұрын
@@batacumbakay but the case is still going, the people in his life don’t even get the space to grieve yet and your gonna monetize his autopsy photos? It’s just wrong simple as that. I get that content creators should be fairly compensated but true crime content creators are kind of in a different lane, these recent tragedies should be handled by professionals
@BellaBlayne
5 ай бұрын
I am shocked that I missed your covering this! I am currently helping to get a bill passed that will no longer allow underage murdered victims autopsy photos being released via FOIA.
@Blueninja825
Жыл бұрын
BTW, she isn't the only True Crime KZitemr who did this, another one named Natasha Cooper also was doing the exact same thing as Zav Girl, but Natasha's response was much worse, where she straight up justified herself doing it by saying they did it in the court trial. And also, unlike Zav Girl, she is actively silencing comments calling her out on it. Natasha sees nothing wrong with her selling the autopsy photos and actively defends and justifies it.
@ANPC-pi9vu
Жыл бұрын
I think this whole case highlights a more basic problem... the fact that such sensitive material is available to the public at all. This needs to change. Autopsy photos should be no less a problem than child porn. It's sick.
@slick3996
Жыл бұрын
@@ANPC-pi9vu not even remotely close of a comparision but well above you were excusing the analysis of dead people but called someone a psychopath for looking at a autopsy pic so what is there to expect from u
@Flight042
Жыл бұрын
@@ANPC-pi9vu FOIA requests exist to protect the public by giving access to information from any government agency(with some restrictions). In rare cases like this people abuse and utilize this information, however in the vast majority of cases it allows the public access to information on government actions. Furthermore, knee-jerk reactions such as creating more laws/regulations may not be the most reasonable reaction as autopsy photos have a purpose in educating students on methods of injury, physiology, and provides real case examples by which to references topics learned. TLDR: The issue with this situation is not the evidence/information but rather the way it was handled by the individual.
@kokokoka1131
Жыл бұрын
Yes I am also in this communities and many youtubers do that.They charge for pics of acid attacks,brutally murdered people and childish who died from hypothermia.It’s mostly like 100-700k ish ytbers who have patreon with more nsfw content that includes autopsy pictures and attacks from hospital records.It’s kinda also a building block of this community.People wanna see and hear and as time passes they desensitize to the point where it’s just dead body to them.
@mariya_tortilla
Жыл бұрын
@@slick3996 Huh? Murder photos of children are as bad as pornographic images bc youre hurting children at the end of the day. It's all evil
@augurypleasant4506
Жыл бұрын
I think she's well aware of who was actually paying to see those autopsy photos.
@avenlmfao
Жыл бұрын
Wdym??
@saritavenkatapathynaidu9533
Жыл бұрын
@@avenlmfaothe point is that it fuels the sadistic pleasure of people who would be or think about being perpetrators.
@@avenlmfaoIt was a autopsy pic of a child - the likelihood is that a lot of vile pedos were the ones paying to see the pics.
@augurypleasant4506
Жыл бұрын
@@avenlmfao She might as well have made an OnlyFans account for those pictures and made money there. Someone would have to be braindead to not realize that compiling graphic images of a dead child and syncing them with a detailed report on how they died would become a more than pleasurable watch for humanity's undesirable freaks. I think she knew what she was doing and how hungry the monsters are. Not only is what she did an insult to the child's family, but it's also selfish and perverted.
@dennispage2181
Жыл бұрын
I was heartbroken hearing from the father when they interviewed him on the news regarding this. How much more can you make a family suffer? This is pure evil.
@Dave_of_Mordor
Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for someone to say "she's not evil, she's hustling. don't hate the player, hate the game"
@ozitona7704
Жыл бұрын
@@Dave_of_Mordor But they gave her free fucking evidence basically, hate this playa. So hey let me get dead pictures of you're kids and everything they have about em and share it to the world while getting paid lmao you wouldn't be so careless and say hate the game instead if it was yo kids. This is something you *DON'T hustle* at all period
@jack456000
Жыл бұрын
@@Dave_of_Mordor No one will say that ngl
@holyroman6541
Жыл бұрын
@@jack456000 You're underestimating how scummy some people are.
@Dave_of_Mordor
Жыл бұрын
@@jack456000 i'm from the US. that's our current culture. we called it hustle culture, if you don't see it in the comment, it means those people don't come to this channel, and that's a wonderful thing. i just can't help but to think that one of them might find their way in here
@captainrandom_pc
Жыл бұрын
I swear it always feels like Moist Critical is the only real adult on this platform
@chexcollects
9 ай бұрын
It’s because he uses common sense that used to be normal(and still is with people who grew up old millennial and above. But now with later millennials to today it’s rare.
@ronnievinettie999
6 ай бұрын
@@chexcollectsDoesn't that make it the fault of those generations that its gone?
@chexcollects
6 ай бұрын
@@ronnievinettie999 ehh, maybe to some degree? It’s a product, imo, of parents needing to both work and also being being distracted. Also, losing old school mechanisms and sense. We somehow got to this point in life using a set of principles and rules, for thousands and thousands of years, and it’s all being rewritten in the last 20. It’s bogus and a terrible social experiment. Future generations will be laughing at us and saying “how did they get there?”.
@ronnievinettie999
6 ай бұрын
@@chexcollects That makes a lot of sense honestly, I suppose the rapid modernization isn't something that parents can honestly parent well in. But that's the industrial revolution for you. Fair enough Internet stranger
@pairakat
Жыл бұрын
As a true crime writer myself, I've come across autopsy photos in research, and the autopsy photos of a dead child are something that stays with you. The fact that she chose to charge money to show people this and even put it on the internet at all is disgusting as hell. Profiting from a family's horrific, uncomprehendable loss is unforgivable. Truly.
@crispy7499
Жыл бұрын
It's always weird to me that people don't recognize how badly the things they see fuck them up. I saw a lot of fucked up shit when I was a kid, and it completely desensitized me to violence or gore. It takes a very, very irreparably damaged person to sell a pic of a mutilated child and view it from a scientific perspective for entertainment
@mako3951
Жыл бұрын
True crime entertainment in general is honestly pretty disrespectful to victims of brutality, turning people's suffering into entertainment is pretty gross. but people don't want to accept that yet since it's popular. God knows why. Not as extreme as this situation, but still pretty fucked up how accepted and even "fun" it is for people to watch, read, or listen to people's horrific deaths as entertainment. If I was brutally murdered, it would be my worst nightmare to have my murder be featured in some true crime TV show, podcast, or whatever and that is how I'm remembered
@ElpSmith
Жыл бұрын
@@mako3951 I feel the same way. I have watched some true crime in my day but I can only enjoy it when they focus on the victim instead of the criminal or when it’s like cold cases that have finally been solved. Most of the time it just makes me sad but my sister likes to watch that stuff all the time.
@Snipit1990
Жыл бұрын
@@mako3951 I understand your opinion but I disagree many crimes have been solved through shows like crime stoppers from back in the day. The crime videos on KZitem could maybe do the same who knows, but people have always been interested in crime and that's why it's usually crime violence and murder in news for the most part. I don't see it ever going away, I also don't view it as disrespectful unless the person making the video is making light of the situation. I will say that there is never a time in my life I will look up an image of a dead person just to see let alone want to see a dead child. Of course this is also just my opinion.
@superstan3290
Жыл бұрын
I have watched this KZitemr named Rob Gavagan and I don’t think he ever goes too far by showing victims corpses on his true crime channel
@glndreamer
Жыл бұрын
She’s also owes us an apology for those eyebrows
@DrGrombles
Жыл бұрын
I was looking for someone mentioning them 😂
@klankanetv9207
Жыл бұрын
My mom is obsessed with this case and unfortunately the live court trials showed his autopsy. The fact that this woman tried charging people for Ganon’s autopsy, which in fact was already released via live court streams and such is horrid. This whole scenario is fucked up.
@abrahamlincoln1600
Жыл бұрын
It’s quite literally sucking money and clout from a child’s passing. Truly sickening.
@adammaloney3192
Жыл бұрын
Wait are u upset because she made people pay for these horrible photos when people saw them for free in a court room. So in turn u should be able to view them for free on her channel.
@karama5562
Жыл бұрын
@@IsraelLlerenanot relevant to the tragedy in question
@dnivek12
Жыл бұрын
To be fair she wasn't charging specifically for the photos she was just posting the file on her patreon so people who are already signed up to her patreon and have interest in the case would have access to it it's not like she was going "come get your eleven-year-old autopsy photos here only $5" ... Technically she posted them for free for people already subscribed
@ThinWhiteLuke
Жыл бұрын
@@adammaloney3192no, they are upset about both things, the fact she charged money AND the fact the court showed the general public pictures of a dead kid.
@dallyahwd9517
Жыл бұрын
All of the true crime channels I watch would never do anything like this…the fact anyone would show autopsy photos of anyone is horrible…the fact that it was a child is abhorrent. I’ve followed this case as well and what that child went through … I just can’t
@DatOneCat
Жыл бұрын
I second that. The three I watch on a constant basis whenever they upload don't do this kind of thing from the get go. One is very respectful of the subject matter. The other is a bit more comedic and pokes fun at the killer. The other is a full on analysis of the person in question through the guise of interrogative footage.
@jamifrig
Жыл бұрын
stephanie, kendall, and danelle would neeeeeever
@fawkespryde9183
Жыл бұрын
I've watched coffeehouse crimes and the respect he has for the victim and the history given is very informative without having to show any horrific scenes. You can be interested in true crime when the channel you watch is respectful towards the memories of the victims and families.
@emmily6254
Жыл бұрын
@@fawkespryde9183i've watched coffeehouse and he's not my cup of tea but he has the most respectful approach towards victims I've seen so far.
@theodoratalon5368
Жыл бұрын
Murder With My Husband is always so respectful to the victims, even to their families. They always go deep in the case, but never into detail of the gruesome parts unless absolutely needed
@gracielaaajohns2600
Жыл бұрын
I live in Colorado Springs where this happened, I went to the middle school she taught at, I was working at the mall when his sisters and family came in and asked if they could hang flyers in our store after he went missing, I live close to his home, and everyone in our community feels a great connection to him and his family. When this came out we could not BELIEVE the absolute depravity of this woman. She’s genuinely got to see a therapist bc being desensitized to autopsy photos of a young boy, is concerning.
@drdemise
6 ай бұрын
I'm from Denver, this case hurt to hear every time it came on the news. I can't believe ppl.
@skipker
11 ай бұрын
I continue to watch your videos, and dude, this is truly the top ten videos on KZitem. I gathered that you are both a college graduate and an OG on street news. I came across one of your earlier videos where your hair was short😢😢 I have an addiction personality and tour channels. My apology if I have already sent this to you. Great channel
@FF-oh2pv
Жыл бұрын
What shocks me most is that she didn't just publish court documents that happen to contain autopsy fotos, she took them and the notes of the corroner and edited a video out of them. She went way out of her way to highlight them
@marlondavis9450
Жыл бұрын
Not trying to be funny but what she was thinking was “nobody getting them details like me” & I forgive her, she got caught up.
@doubledoggodoge2124
Жыл бұрын
Sry bro but fOToS
@dragonkin5656
Жыл бұрын
@@marlondavis9450 1. You don't now that, 2. Why is capitalizing off a family's trauma topped off with a half-baked "apology" ("I'm sorry you guys got mad") forgivable just because you think she's detail oriented
@aClownBaby-
Жыл бұрын
@@doubledoggodoge2124 Foto’s is Dutch for photos. Maybe it was autocorrect. I’m Dutch, happens to me all the time.
@neryn9020
Жыл бұрын
@@marlondavis9450 I'm sure Logan Paul thought the same thing when he saw that corpse in the suicide forest. Do you forgive him for that as well?
@anactualalpaca7016
9 ай бұрын
feel like the people who bought those pics should have their hard drives looked at by law enforcement
@pauljoseph3081
Жыл бұрын
While reenactments in crime documentaries are censored, this woman went too realistic af. The bigger issue is, *WHO TF GAVE HER THOSE DOCUMENTS?!?!?!*
@NotesNNotes
Жыл бұрын
Some of them are actually public
@pauljoseph3081
Жыл бұрын
@@NotesNNotes And some aren't, so again... Who gave her those documents?!?!?
@charliebat
Жыл бұрын
@@NotesNNotesi don’t think these ones were public because it’s of a child and the father probably requested privacy and she literally called someone up, stated the case, and got access after she paid. it’s not like she was family or anything. it’s so fucked up. like what??? why are we letting strangers pay for this stuff? she doesn’t know that boy at all
@clarissah8999
Жыл бұрын
She received them from Colorado. She received them by requesting the case files.
@tgfbando2413
Жыл бұрын
@@NotesNNotes yeah but I don’t think a 11 year old boy dead body would out there publicly just out of respect for he’s family but now they are because of her being a sicko
@quazitv6033
Жыл бұрын
It feels like there's a new horrifying youtuber every week, and that's scary.
@TheMaskedFox288
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like we need more severe punishment for people like this
@dittoexceptshiny
Жыл бұрын
what else is scary, the amount of shitty people running shitty bots
@amazins
Жыл бұрын
@LoganFloor0102looks you have notifications on
@SPATNAZ904
Жыл бұрын
Charlie isn't that scary sneako is
@magvs_mæstro216
Жыл бұрын
@@dittoexceptshinyamen
@kilvaari
Жыл бұрын
From what I have heard, the pictures should have been removed from the file before it was given to her. It must have been an oversight. In my opinion, whomever dropped the ball should be fired. And what she did is beyond disgusting.
@user-himenes
Жыл бұрын
I've heard it is false. Apparently in Florida (where murder happened?) it would be illegal, and clerk would be prosecuted. But court was in Colorado? So no clerk committed crime
@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935
Жыл бұрын
@@user-himeneswtf? Whats up with yankees, christ.
@thelocalcrusader9522
Жыл бұрын
@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 I've seen someone say the purpose of records requests is to see if what was shown in court is real so for that purpose the autopsy photos would be relevant it doesn't justify its use here because this is for profit and not verification of the evidence but it can still have a use (though the photos should be heavily restricted for who can see them)
@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935
Жыл бұрын
@@thelocalcrusader9522 by have the court case in a radically different state from the crime is bizarre at best.
@thelocalcrusader9522
Жыл бұрын
@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 didn't notice that Yeah that's incredibly weird
@rosylagoon3600
Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter in the SLIGHTEST how she thinks she views the photos in a “scientific” way. What matters is that it is instantly disrespectful to the family and the child to look at and spread the photos, no matter how “scientific” you look at it.
@Dylan-ig3qz
Жыл бұрын
Really hope this woman has a friend or a therapist to sit her down and explain what she’s done, it really seems like she has no regrets
@benq9409
Жыл бұрын
She doesn't even deserve that, put her in jail
@marcelberes469
Жыл бұрын
@@benq9409 What she did was immoral, but, could she actually go to jail for it? As far as I understand, she received everything through legal means.
@xisixty
Жыл бұрын
She's filth and she knows what she did already
@peterrogers7800
Жыл бұрын
@@marcelberes469no she can’t, benq4909 is just saying she deserves it through lack Of empathy
@jack-a-lopium
Жыл бұрын
Or parents...
@sickdewd5694
Жыл бұрын
the girl who did the ukulele apology and the girl who did the interpretive dance apology should do an apology collab. shit would slap.
@neversoart
Жыл бұрын
Lmao 🤣
@aehamfatheen4314
Жыл бұрын
Sex offender shuffle remake
@edgytoucan3444
Жыл бұрын
@@aehamfatheen4314NOOO 💀
@neversoart
Жыл бұрын
@@aehamfatheen4314 omg 💀
@SilentRoadStudio
Жыл бұрын
@@aehamfatheen4314💀
@theguyishere16
Жыл бұрын
As someone who finds true crime fascinating sometimes, the TC community is vile. So many of these people treat the crimes like some sort of tv show whodunit and completely forget these are real people and families whos lives were ended and/or ruined. To them its all entertainment and its disgusting.
@scamueladams
Жыл бұрын
I mean you kinda just outed yourself by your own logic lol
@Temulon
Жыл бұрын
Why is the genre called true crime? Is there any other type? Are there people out there in the world that are interested in false crimes?
@ultranomega112
Жыл бұрын
@@scamueladamstbf we have the likes of Plagued Moth that had gore and more questionable stuff on his Patreon
@CryosisOfficial
Жыл бұрын
@@Temulon Have you never heard of the entirety of crime fiction?
@claranadine1086
Жыл бұрын
@@cat-le1hfthat is the official title lol just nobody uses it
@davidm9612
Жыл бұрын
Between my time growing up in the bush, and learning how to butcher livestock, working as a butcher, my time as a first aider for rugby league and my time studying biomedicine at university, in which i had to regularly spend long hours with human cadavers, i became completely desensitised to gore, and whatnot. However, cruelty is something that still genuinely churns my stomach. Even just hearing about this case makes me feel sick.
@vittoprince
Жыл бұрын
People who exploit someone’s traumatic experience for personal gain are an absolute disgrace. Edit: Let me rephrase the sentence, people who exploit someone’s traumatic experience without their blessing for personal gains and not for the sake of bringing justice for the victims are an absolute disgrace.
@islandboy9381
Жыл бұрын
Average KZitemr moment:
@shaqthegr8884
Жыл бұрын
I mean the news do that all the time
@TheBlueDominion
Жыл бұрын
He ain’t promoting it at least
@TheLiquidRemix
Жыл бұрын
@@TheBlueDominion That not how it works....honestly i dont see anything wrong here
@RobertPayne556
Жыл бұрын
@@TheLiquidRemixAverage Suicide Forest moment:
@Sandtalon
Жыл бұрын
I love the righteous anger brimming from Charlie in this video, the whole situation is absolutely disgusting
@dreabrown6595
Жыл бұрын
charlie in this video reminds me of when Jesus Christ went on a rampage destroying the street vendors who set up shop in the temple. like, go off
@jessestrobel2
Жыл бұрын
Your refusal to see the bigger picture in how these moral-driven condemnations affect free speech is "absolutely disgusting".
@joshowawood1786
Жыл бұрын
@@jessestrobel2I 💜 your justice for morbid curiosity
@Sandtalon
Жыл бұрын
@@jessestrobel2 what are you talking about my dude, she had a right to do this, Charlie had the right to be angry, I have the right to say I agree with him. Free speech all round
@jessestrobel2
Жыл бұрын
@@Sandtalon I mean duh. Free speech can be used to damage the future of free speech. You didn't do that here, so disregard what I said - everyone else seems to be though by insinuating that the contents shouldn't be viewable by the public - which they should given that they were handed over legally.
@nathanpitek3177
Жыл бұрын
To be honest Charlie, I never get shocked when a KZitemr does something heinous and disgusting. It’s a weekly occurrence at this point
@warlis4767
Жыл бұрын
And it's only Sunday. XD Honestly, since like 2020, the rate of KZitemrs exposed is on the rise. It would take a miracle just for 6 months to pass without any of it.
@thgduels4519
Жыл бұрын
@LoganFloor0102 I doubt it
@thgduels4519
Жыл бұрын
@Susnation532 Nah
@LBRF1_
Жыл бұрын
@@warlis4767 i hope i dont get exposed (i have 34 children in my basement)(is this the wrong type of “humour” to bring to this specific video?)
@rossorange2592
Жыл бұрын
And why is it always “family friendly” channels? 🤔
@hannahbanks6376
2 ай бұрын
After years of taking criminal justice and forensic science classes, I've become desensitized to a lot of things like blood and gore, but every case has still pulled at my heartstirngs in one way or another. I can't imagine being so delusional and cruel that you think this is okay, regardless of whether or not your looking at it in a scientific way. This is a whole new level of disgusting, cruel and sadistic. I can't imagine that poor family. She is beyond greedy and heartless.
@PerfectCell937
2 ай бұрын
Yeah man I even hate looking at serial killer cases and seeing the nicknames they’re give to add more Shazam to it and most people don’t even remember the victims names which I hate even more
@doormailable
Жыл бұрын
A forensic dentist gave a lecture at my university where he struggled while talking about a case he had a week prior. He said it's hard for him to sleep at night given everything he's seen. He'd been doing this job for at least 20 years.
@vhs3760
Жыл бұрын
I used to be really into true crime. In the past few years, I've tried to reset hard because I realized it was a really bad thing to constantly engage with. Stories like this make me glad I turned my focus elsewhere.
@rognogog5092
Жыл бұрын
I watch true crime, but this is still appalling to me. I am so glad that I only follow respectful tc channels that wouldn't condone this behavior.
@pacer2310
Жыл бұрын
Before I had children I didn't mind so much. My wife is really into true crime. She'll watch ID and such - and honestly, that entire channel is provocative and exploitive. Some of the 'dramatic recreations' are way too much. I just cringe when I hear about kids getting murdered - especially by parents. I don't really judge people for interest in it, but I personally find it a little too morbid for my tastes. The world is depressing enough without getting the details of people in the last fearful, panicked moments of their lives often being killed by someone they know or love.
@anglepsycho
Жыл бұрын
True crime is fun and all until you come across women who use it to show child abuse and not in an educational way. Like the infamous ones are fine, when you research on your own and DO NOT FORCE PEOPLE TO PAY YOU FOR FOOTAGE. You find that shit yourself. Wendigoon is phenomenally true crime for that, as is Roanoke Tales and Mr. Ballen.
@rognogog5092
Жыл бұрын
@@i.6606 no i haven't heard of them. Are they good?
@anjelica948
Жыл бұрын
Same. I still enjoy it, but I definitely scaled back my consumption of true crime content back by a lot, because I could tell it was bothering me on an unconscious level and making me more nihilistic, which I didn’t like. I’ll still watch a true crime documentary every once in a while, but nowhere near like I used to.
@Random15738
Жыл бұрын
you know it's serious when charlie doesn't say "goofy", "silly", or "rapscallion" once.
@jackatk
Жыл бұрын
He didn’t even make a joke about the kid having a gamer name… But he _did_ say _goofball goober_
@Larry_Dean
Жыл бұрын
didnt break description format though. also 2:44
@seangonzalez184
Жыл бұрын
He said "goofball goober"
@dieliebenerus5625
Жыл бұрын
he said goofy twice
@seangonzalez184
Жыл бұрын
@@jackatk already clarified but nice edit though
@vvaara93
9 ай бұрын
Her explanation of charging for her time and effort to "educate" people instead of the autopsy photos is like a prostitute telling the cops you charged people for a massage but not the happy ending
@larod92
Жыл бұрын
What's crazy is that the Freedom of Information Act grants citizens the option to receive information of whatever they want, so as long as it's not sealed or classified information , ALL for free essentially. Then she turns around and charges people for that same free information.
@1_amIcy
Жыл бұрын
FOIA requests usually have a fee. She's just making her money back by charging for access at a hugely discounted cost. If anything, your problem is with the government for charging her for access to these documents.
@SPELTMUSIC
Жыл бұрын
@@1_amIcyi don’t think anyone would have a problem with her charging to make her money back if she was only providing interviews, court documents etc, it’s the fact that she purposely included and edited a video together containing autopsy photos. just, leave that part out….
@dolomitilino9015
Жыл бұрын
Welcome to Capitalist America
@pandorin2348
Жыл бұрын
I guess you could say that’s capitalism.
@HatsuneSquidward
Жыл бұрын
@@SPELTMUSIC I don't know, like medical forensics is a legitimate scientific field of study. As long as she was being respectful and non-sensational in her analysis of the caee including the autopsy photos. Then I don't see a huge problem with her charging for her work to obtain all the documents, the cost to do so, and her knowledge and expertise. It sounds like she has a degree in psychology so im not sure how much she is able to conclude from the autopsy photos, but I doubt they are irrelevant. I agree that the issue should be that the FOIA allows for these kind of records requests to be made. Maybe there should be an option (maybe there is idk) for the family of the deceased to request some amount of privacy and for some records to be sealed except to individuals with a need to access privileged materials. Also in this case I'm not sure how much family was left given the kids circumstances, so I don't know if there was anyone left to act on his behalf.
@ew275x
Жыл бұрын
I am annoyed she just names the case after the murderer and not the victim.
@David3281-0110
Жыл бұрын
According to her channel description, she has a bachelor degree in psychology. So you would think that she would understand why it would be a bad idea to do what she did.
@CarMiNe6361
Жыл бұрын
it's been my belief that folks who study psychology always seem to have something deeply twisted in their psyche themselves. I have yet to be proven wrong.
@UnrelentingJuggernaut1
Жыл бұрын
That was handed to her from a cereal box buddy. Same with her license she isn’t apart of our world
@drunkenhobo5039
Жыл бұрын
@@UnrelentingJuggernaut1 Like all psychology degrees.
@wafflehousewarrior9414
Жыл бұрын
As a psychology student, I can assure you that the majority of those receiving degrees are not deserving of them. Many people become involved for selfish reasons rather than to help others. The field is overrun by folks who have no idea what they're talking about and believe they know everything just because they know a few definitions. I’m really of the belief for every 1 good therapist there’s a 100 bad ones.
@Pyx3ll
Жыл бұрын
@@wafflehousewarrior9414I can vouch for this 100%. If anything a psychology degree can actually just teach assholes/abusers/people with no empathy how to use and exploit people more effectively 😢 I dated two different PhD students during my degree and they were the most egotistical, selfish and abusive guys I’ve ever dated
@neonicon8500
8 ай бұрын
Honestly if I was her, I'd ban everyone who paid to see the photos, or report them. They into some shit if they'd be willing to pay to see a dead kid
@middlyboss2792
Жыл бұрын
I live in lorson Ranch, and I remember seeing Gannon with his dad all the time riding his bike. Rest in power little dude, we all miss you
@facademy101
Жыл бұрын
💙
@goblinlit
Жыл бұрын
I know it's not your kid but I'm sorry for you as well man
@Holmelander
Жыл бұрын
I hope you’re looking after yourself my man 💛
@Snimniad
Жыл бұрын
I was his cousin so therefore closer to him. Making me better than you.
@goblinlit
Жыл бұрын
@@Snimniad simply didn't ask
@SAMIIIB
Жыл бұрын
this happened in my home town, i remember when Gannon first went missing and it was terrifying how his stepmother tried to play along with the case, this poor baby didn't deserve such an abrupt ending, and now his death is being so exploited in such a horrific way, I can't believe this shit bruh
@JoyDavidson
Жыл бұрын
It's an awful story with real monsters. RIP Gannon.
@Queazii
Жыл бұрын
I just moved to elpaso county and, well… 90% of fucked up shit always turns out to be here and I might move low key.
@__wo0dy__772
Жыл бұрын
@@Queaziiis that in texas?
@bentoomet8805
Жыл бұрын
Jesus, I’m very sorry this happened in your community. I wish you and your neighbors healing.
@chloeAlmási
Жыл бұрын
@@__wo0dy__772Colorado
@WoWmeister69
Жыл бұрын
When I came across this story I was absolutely appalled. This is beyond disgusting and downright disrespectful. Her even claiming it was for "science" while charging money for it is completely messed up.
@hazeshi6779
Жыл бұрын
Agreed completely, it honestly adds to people's mistrust of science.
@grumpleforskin
Жыл бұрын
A pay wall "for science".... subjectively I'm not a good person but she's terrible. For me to say that takes a lot.😅
@-BL1NKY
Жыл бұрын
"Science" is the new religion. After the Vax 'science' became the unquestionable faith
@jdrealfr
Жыл бұрын
@Susnation532 🤓🤓🤓🤓
@masterbruce556
Жыл бұрын
How is it disgusting? It's just a dead body, plus you don't have to look at it if you don't want to.
@hiimmijk
Жыл бұрын
10:00 That's what Im charging for, which I hope you can agree on. Charlie: I do not agree.... This had me laughing hahaha.
@carterhanley373
Жыл бұрын
Coffee House Crimes is basically the only true crime channel I watch, very empathetic and respectful without exposing sensitive information.
@Hail-the-hypnotoad
Жыл бұрын
Try murder with my husband or ewu
@lurklingX
Жыл бұрын
yeah, that one is very respectful and focus on telling the story about the people, less on the act of the deaths. i know there's a few out there. i'm sick of 99% of the true crime stuff because it feels like it's obsessively glorifying horrific acts through giving it so much attention. *especially* when excessive detail is given to the trauma points and injuries.
@depthsparade
Жыл бұрын
dreading crime & psychology is the only source i watch for similar reasons, i'd recommend them
@CreativeC13
Жыл бұрын
I watch Kendall rae cause she treats them with such respect and often works with victims families.
@scotts7246
Жыл бұрын
Same!
@madaemon
Жыл бұрын
It's indefensible enough to sell the raw files for a profit, but the fact she made a video of the wounds synced up to the coroner's testimony is terrifying. She had to sit there for at least a few hours, deciding which wound was the one they were talking about, sync it up, then produce *that* for a profit, all while never once thinking, "I shouldnt be doing this." That's someone who can convinve themselves not to feel remorse about *anything.*
@suetan
Жыл бұрын
The true crime community can be so damn demented. I used to only really listen to all that stuff because it usually taught me how to avoid the situations others have gotten themselves into, but that's a child. If my loved one's autopsy photos were going out everywhere online because of some asshole who sold them to people who wanted to see out of "morbid curiosity", I'd not only be traumatized, but pissed and completely upset. Hate this situation. True crime community needs to fix themselves, I swear. There's so many problems there.
@FiendDisciple
Жыл бұрын
This is in my my town, Fountain Colorado and this was a super sad case. Everyone from that neighborhood had blue lights on because that was his favorite color, to guide him home. And she was recieving all this attention from everybody just to find out she killed him. I feel so sorry for the dad who was deployed at the time. What a terrible thing to come home to.
@Chugargonfan
Жыл бұрын
As if a bunch of lights will help a kidnapped boy escape his kidnapper and come home
@china_guppie5343
11 ай бұрын
I used to live in fountain, by the red train. Good times
@sebastianriz4703
7 ай бұрын
@@ChugargonfanNo fool. Its to guide his soul back home.
@hugoat4398
Жыл бұрын
I love that in her “apology” she says she is looking into sensitivity training. Like wtf. It’s just called basic human decency
@error-try-again-later
Жыл бұрын
"sensitivity training" = "my workplace is going to cover my privileged ass by pretending to teach me that selling autopsy pictures is bad"
@o3keer304
Жыл бұрын
Wrong, weakling
@ShendonV
Жыл бұрын
There’s being rude then there’s legit apathy and degeneracy. Weird how she seems this excited over a DEAD CHILD, that’s almost necro and pedo behavior.
@NIN_Mase
Жыл бұрын
Yep. If she needs training there's no hope for her
@turboshazed7370
Жыл бұрын
Too far gone
@chef5860
Ай бұрын
My wife works for the DA in our city, specifically on Capital Murder (murder which carries a death sentence). She has seen plenty of photos of and sat in for autopsies for children. She would never DREAM of showing ANY of what she’s seen to others. This lady is deplorable.
@BigShippy0
Жыл бұрын
I remember back in highschool we had these guys in my class that would constantly look at gore videos like it was nothing, they'd even laugh about some of them. I just can't help but imagine the same types of sick fks buying and looking at the autopsy photos. It honestly sickens me how gore gives some people a kick, absolutely disgusting. Not only that, but when you call them out on it, they act like there's something wrong with YOU, "bro you're just too sensitive" "nah u a snowflake" Human depravity knows no bounds
@nighthawkgamer2
Жыл бұрын
I had the same classmates, they watched gore for fun. Untill they found a 40 minute long gore video, that was so disgusting, i wont even bother telling you the details (I didnt watch it but they talked about it and i listened to their talk). My friend literally got sick and one of them threw up.
@driskoll127
Жыл бұрын
I have always found people who like that kind of stuff extremely off-putting to say the least. I will never truly be able to view a person the same as before I knew they didn't really mind watching those videos. I even count particularly visceral horror films in that same category and even the fact that people enjoy those disturbs me greatly. I'm not talking about the average horror film. I think everyone knows some of the ones that come to my mind and even though I've never seen them myself I've heard about the content.
@Numbabu
Жыл бұрын
I will never understand people like that, but honestly I think people can enjoy whatever they want. What’s unacceptable to me is the lack of recognition that it’s a person. Because the issue isn’t that you’re looking at something gross, or even delighting in human suffering, it’s that you’re making other people aware that you’re doing that. Imagine your family member dying in a horrifying way and then finding out they hit the top of liveleak (I know it doesn’t exist anymore). Basically I see the fact that people publicly enjoy this sort of thing as tormenting the families and friends of the victims, and also anyone who lost people in violent ways.
@debban6397
Жыл бұрын
@@driskoll127 Nah bro horror films and actual fucking corpses have a big difference. An absolutely heaven and hell difference. I and many others can handle horror pretty well, real bodily harm of anyone irl is not something anyone not sick in the head can handle. They definitely do not belong "in the same category", fiction isn't reality and shouldn't be counted as such.
@JJOHN737
Жыл бұрын
so gore and violence means your a bad person? So your saying people who watch movies and play games that involve gore are bad ppl? tf are u talkin about bozo
@Weezy_F_Dende
Жыл бұрын
The thing I love most about moist is that when he does these kinds of videos he acts as if he’s actually sitting down face to face with the people he’s making the video about. You can hear the anger and disgust and disappointment in his voice like this dude pouring his heart out and saying what’s on his mind and I love and respect him for that.
@thatdeadbird_llc
Жыл бұрын
A very "Gestalt Chair" type of way of criticizing these losers. I also love it.
@bugglemagnum6213
Жыл бұрын
calling charlie moist instead of critikal is uncanny
@TheCharmedRose
Жыл бұрын
@@bugglemagnum6213real and true
@Robsli479
Жыл бұрын
Fr
@draketurtle4169
Жыл бұрын
@@bugglemagnum6213the moistest of his personas.
@carmengogeidnas9670
Жыл бұрын
Long time true crime fan here. In her defense, I think the most problematic part of this is that she charged for them. Those of us who follow criminal cases and are interested in criminal psychology do look at crime scene photos and autopsies occasionally because the method of attack and level of violence does tell you a lot about the motive and the state of mind the perpetrator may have had during the event. The majority of us are not interested in gore in and of itself. However, in this instance the body was decomposed to the point that anyone but a professional would not be able to make any helpful inferences about the perpetrator's psychology or mode of attack. All you would probably learn is what a decomposing little boy looks like.. I personally don't want to see this and 99% of true crime fans do not want to see it, and would regret it if they did. I do not think she should have published them but I think her worst offense is charging for them when they are a matter of public record, and the autopsy photos in particular are a privacy issue. I don't think the victim would want everyone to see his dead body, and they should be controlled out of respect for him and the family.
@MoldyStir-Fry
Жыл бұрын
Man, it's kind of scary when Charlie is literally vibrating with anger. It's a shame people have these weird delusions that what they're doing for money is ok as if nobody is going to have a problem with it.
@NealCamerlengo
Жыл бұрын
Sadly, this has been going on for ages and even more sadly, it is going to keep on happening. Add even more to the sad, this type of thing happens everywhere regardless of economic setting.
@CobraCommander117
Жыл бұрын
😂 kinda scaring Kinda corny bro
@Jumbo344
Жыл бұрын
Kinda scary.. behave yourself 🤦♂️
@waynehiggins7950
Жыл бұрын
Never underestimate the things people will do for money.
@gabagabago0l
Жыл бұрын
@@CobraCommander117Yah pretty cringe
@Th3GDC
Жыл бұрын
Charlie’s anger reflects my own. This is horrific. Ive always felt true crime channels are exploitative, but this is a step further. Evil
@7opher619
Жыл бұрын
There is definitely a way to create a documentary or information piece focusing on a tragedy without it being exploitative. In fact, when it is done with respect to the affected survivors it usually does a lot of good. Interest can be reignited in a cold case via new evidence or leads, families can receive financial and emotional support they otherwise wouldn't get, and the producers of such content can maybe earn a living as well. That is a few examples of the good. However, what she [the youtuber] did here was not done with respect for the affected survivors. It was done purely in an exploitative manner for her own benefit and entertainment. That is evil. On a related side note I see this as a good example of the hypocrisy of our society though. Murder, gore, torture, rape, child porn, etcetera are all bad. All real life examples of those would be immediately viewed as evil and exploitative when used for entertainment. However, almost all of those are used in fictional entertainment regularly with varying degrees of how much is explicit versus implicit. Most Rob Zombie movies are often described as "gore porn" and the show Thirteen Reasons Why leaves the bare minimum to the imagination of the viewer during the scenes where children are raped (I think a lot of people forget the story centers on a 17 year old high school student). I would like to further add that there isn't anything wrong with finding interest in a morbid story. However, there is definitely a difference in wanting to know what is needed to understand the story, and wanting to know and see every detail. If you tell me a mother brutally tortured and murdered her own child I don't need to know or see much else to understand how depraved of a human being she is and that it is tragic.
@Th3GDC
Жыл бұрын
@@7opher619 I completely agree. I loathe the media nowadays. The sheer extent of glorified torture and porn in tv (Netflix originals) typically involving highschoolers is crazy. 13 reasons, euphoria, sex education, the list goes on. Im 19, and maybe im an outlier but it makes me incredibly uncomfortable knowing rooms of older adults sit in a circle and all agree that fictional highschoolers raping eachother is good content. And worse the public eat it up like its the best thing they have seen. Its textbook hypocrisy as you stated
@Th3GDC
Жыл бұрын
On the same note i dont think censorship is the answer either. We dont need to sugar coat what we do and dont see. The real world is brutal. But on the other end we shouldn’t go out of our way to glorify the shit either
@7opher619
Жыл бұрын
@@Th3GDC It's isn't about censorship. It's about what matters to tell the story. If your story is about the victim of a heinous act it is not usually important to show it. If for some reason it is important then it needs to be handled as tactfully as is possible. Anything less and it is glorified fantasy porn.
@Th3GDC
Жыл бұрын
@@7opher619 if you read my above statement you will see that i agree with you 🗿
@gemini1005
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention his family hearing about this. I wouldve completely lost my shìt if that was my child. The father did comment on the whole thing calling her "evil" and I agree. Even IF there were no autopsy photos, her charging for it is disguised, period. A child was murdered, like... what
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