I almost fell out of my seat hearing Morning Joe say something the that I agreed with.
@clairepesarik4897
9 ай бұрын
Me too
@markkirkland1433
9 ай бұрын
@mohammadishaque2965 So Mohammed? Isn’t naming yourself after your prophet a bit precocious? Anyway, exactly what part of Palestinian is occupied and what part is to be “liberated?” Gaza hasn’t had rhe IDF in it since 2005. So….. not occupied there. The West Bank? Small groups of Orthodox Jews that are bargaining chips for an agreement. One that PAL’s will surely break.
@dontmindmeimjustchilling
9 ай бұрын
@mohammadishaque2965 idgaf about terrorists claims of "double standards"
@alany.9366
9 ай бұрын
@mohammadishaque2965 What genocide was committed by Israel? Palestinian population has actually increased so many in past decades in that area: Population (mid-year, millions) Year West Bank Gaza Total 1970 0.69 0.34 1.03 1980 0.90 0.46 1.36 1990 1.25 0.65 1.90 2000 1.98 1.13 3.11 2010 2.52 1.60 4.12 2014 2.73 1.82 4.55 2021 3.12 2.11 5.23
@liamm1885
9 ай бұрын
They were so smug! Unbelievable they can’t denounce racism!
@Dr_Jeff888
9 ай бұрын
Jewish students, some minors, are required to be on campus and so these presidents are responsible for their health and safety. Absolutely these presidents must be fired some charged with child abuse
@RamanSg
9 ай бұрын
They are afraid of losing their necks above their heads... It is quite simple and straight forward... Americans should thank Obama for such enlightened idiots who are supposedly teaching and 'guiding' the next generation of Americans to convert it into leftist authoritarian plus Muslim nation... Congratulations...
@jameswood88
9 ай бұрын
This is not about free speech, it is about the values of the university. Employers are allowed to fire individuals who make comments that are allowable under free speech but go against their company values. These universities are essentially saying the calling of genocide is inline with their values.
@dr.g3860
9 ай бұрын
Allowing this particular speech on these campuses probably violates title VI, since these universities get federal funding.
@taikingi3423
9 ай бұрын
Yeah it is about free speech. Remember the gallows erected on January 6th?
@bluejava9397
9 ай бұрын
Which genocide are you talking about? The one happening Gaza with American financial support? Or the “genocide” that’s apparently happening when college students call each other mean names?
@juelasejdo1706
9 ай бұрын
Despicable! They must resign!
@John.giovanni169
9 ай бұрын
Oh shut it
@juelasejdo1706
9 ай бұрын
@@John.giovanni169 you shut it! I thought we only had a far right but now I see we also have a far left. Do you too support rapists and murderers of little babies?!!!
@deekneumann3943
9 ай бұрын
Now they're calling us anti-Semites, because we oppose Zionists, who aren't even Semites. With this kind of logic we should be questioning whether they are even academics.
@bryanhill1406
9 ай бұрын
Your just an Arab hater. You just hate arabs a little more than you hate Jewish people.
@apoc5000
9 ай бұрын
@@John.giovanni169you agree with what they said ?
@junheceta268
9 ай бұрын
What I am curious to find out is what motivated the three university presidents to stubbornly refuse to answer yes. They wouldn't budge. Why not?
@Reaper-cm4jr
9 ай бұрын
Because they agree with the Antisemitic crowd. Now if it was black people being persecuted, it would be an entirely different matter.
@zackattack21
9 ай бұрын
Because they are also antisemites.
@matsborjesson5629
9 ай бұрын
Qatar money
@elenalatici9568
9 ай бұрын
Good question.
@junheceta268
9 ай бұрын
@@matsborjesson5629Too simplistic an answer.
@kprasl20
9 ай бұрын
Absolutely appalling these people are in power at an educational institution!
@eshalaby5235
9 ай бұрын
Congress politicians are loyal to AIPAC not to America.
@johnnygoodman2003
9 ай бұрын
The problem is anti semitism has been redefined. Every message and communication supporting palestinians is deemed anti semitism now. The jewish people are now so hypersenitive, you are not allowed to say anything the seems like it is against israel. It isnt that anti semitism is on the rise. The definition of anti semitism has changed.
@alertgasper
9 ай бұрын
proof they are hired for their rain maker ability to raise money...not to debate intellectually.
@lukeb6771
9 ай бұрын
@@johnnygoodman2003No. The phrases “from the river to the sea” and “antifada” have very specific meanings. They are not up for interpretation. They are slogans rooted in Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, two internationally recognized terrorist paramilitary groups with the ultimate goal of destroying the country of Israel and its people. These students are chanting the exact same words that terrorists are chanting. You see how that could be intimidating?
@az..0N3
9 ай бұрын
Is she a congress women from TelAviv🤔
@santarosa6676
9 ай бұрын
Finally! So sick of the hypocrisy taking place on these campuses. And yes, I’m an alumni of one of these universities. Call it out!!
@FromDesertTown
9 ай бұрын
What is the hypocrisy? MSNBC is making a 100% strawman argument here. When did a student call for the genocide of any of the groups that Joe mentioned, and the college took action? He needs to name at least ONE instance before insinuating that there is some kind of hypocrisy here. You can't just put up straw men to knock down. The university presidents were answering carefully, according to their specifically worded policies. What do we expect them to do - oversimplify their policies just to satisfy a politician who is only grandstanding for political points? All they can do is repeat their universities' policies - they almost certainly didn't make the policies themselves, and are not in a position to change policies on the spot to sound better in a congressional hearing.
@MayMarmaid
9 ай бұрын
😂 sure you are!! You couldn’t even pass a basic civics test.
@agonzalez8924
9 ай бұрын
since you are a student at one of these schools, can you provide an example of an instance when calling for the genocide of jews was made? because this entire 9 minute segment didnt cite one.
@bonniejosavland3227
9 ай бұрын
@@agonzalez8924not a student currently. Is an alumni 😳 you don’t know what an alumni is😜😳💀
@emilyZA460
9 ай бұрын
@@MayMarmaid Ironically, your juvenile comment here has done little more than signal that you are not to be taken seriously and are trolling at best.
@earlputnal9124
9 ай бұрын
It's pure verbal hatred period!!!? It doesn't matter who it is!!!?
@Butter9322
9 ай бұрын
So why is it okay when Congress gives genocidal speech against Palestinians?????
@carlyar5281
9 ай бұрын
Yes! Exactly! The hypocrisy is staggering and disgusting
@lashawnj1951
9 ай бұрын
The hypocrisy in this country smh
@johnnygoodman2003
9 ай бұрын
The problem is anti semitism has been redefined. Every message and communication supporting palestinians is deemed anti semitism now. The jewish people are now so hypersenitive, you are not allowed to say anything the seems like it is against israel. It isnt that anti semitism is on the rise. The definition of anti semitism has changed.
@ronRon-fl1qw
9 ай бұрын
Copy paste loser
@sleigh4019
9 ай бұрын
Think calling on killing all Jews witch is genocide is defined lol..are you clowning us? Its a layup
@bravo73
9 ай бұрын
@@johnnygoodman2003You mean that Hamas definitely supports America and its allies. So supporting Israel is a mistake, right? Palestine and Hamas are two sides of a coin that cannot be separated, the same as Japan and Nagasaki during the second world war.
@johnnygoodman2003
9 ай бұрын
@@bravo73 hamas is not palestine.
@dauferm
9 ай бұрын
Ok, I don't understand: of course, calling for the genocide of anyone should be completely unacceptable. I don't understand... they should have asked them the same question for any of the other groups and see what they say.
@eniselmenic5056
9 ай бұрын
should you be canceled just for writing it?
@EG-hw8re
9 ай бұрын
@@eniselmenic5056 we're talking about them not punishing students who say these kind of things and that is not acceptable. If it's not acceptable to go towards one group, it's not acceptable towards another.
@eniselmenic5056
9 ай бұрын
@@EG-hw8re pretty sure the process is underway. it may still be in the investigation stage but that's life. some people call it ACTION. I don;t think calling for genocide is ever ok but singing a song about river to the sea is not calling for genocide it's calling for freedom
@ericnatividad1674
9 ай бұрын
About time MSNBC talks about the truth.
@John.giovanni169
9 ай бұрын
Ofcorse they're going to talk about. Else they get canceled
@jevaughnclarke6174
9 ай бұрын
May God help us all.
@johnnygoodman2003
9 ай бұрын
The problem is anti semitism has been redefined. Every message and communication supporting palestinians is deemed anti semitism now. The jewish people are now so hypersenitive, you are not allowed to say anything the seems like it is against israel. It isnt that anti semitism is on the rise. The definition of anti semitism has changed.
@TomWindom
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'll keep forgetting that we have freedom of speech in this country. And don't know body go against the First Amendment freedom of speech. You say it is not freedom of speech. Yes, it is because the first Amendment Protect freedom of speech freedom of speech.
@andytraiger4079
9 ай бұрын
If there is a god that helps us, please don't let it be allah because his quran is full of antisemitism. And, also, please don't let it be the god of the new testament, Jesus, since his book is full of antisemitism calling jews "satan's synagogue," "a brood of vipers," has the jews say "Let Jesus' blood be on us and his children," and "You are of your father the devil and your will is to do your father's desires." And come to think of it I hope it's not the Jewish god, because the jewish scriptures of full of verses condemning jews for being unfaitful and evil. I suggest maybe we leave god's out of it. Judge people by their character, not according to some god somebody made.
@selah71
9 ай бұрын
@@johnnygoodman2003 It is the government of Israel that allowed the attack by ignoring their intelligence and the Jewish people have a right to their anger. And, yes, wanting the Palestinians to have rights and their own state doesn't make you antisemitic. At the same time, antisemitism has grown in the US, as has anti-Palestinian, so they're both be fearful and upset. In time this will pass but HOW this will pass is up to us all. Praying for peace! ✌️
@Justice55339h
9 ай бұрын
@@johnnygoodman2003FBI was saying incidents of antiSemititic threats etc. in particular have been on the rise. If you don't support Israel's right to exist, means you are fine with Israel being wiped off the map. If you are constantly attacking them for defending themselves after terrorist attacks etc..that's extreme. Half the Jews in the world live there. Many had nowhere to go after the Holocaust. They faced persecution for millennia because they were exiled from Israel which is their homeland.
@jeffs7915
9 ай бұрын
If they called for the genocide of LGBT, they'd be doing backflips.
@Dam-a-fence
9 ай бұрын
It is not contextual. These people are evil.
@IMeMineWho
9 ай бұрын
The black lady should have been asked "is calling for the genocide of blacks harassment?" and see what she would say. As a Jewess, it depresses me that this woman does not realize two young Jewish men died in 1964 fighting for the voting rights of blacks.
@hippodinoreserve6090
9 ай бұрын
Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner (Rest in Power).
@selah71
9 ай бұрын
Yep! I believe a movie called Mississippi Burning is about those 3 young men. One White a two Jews. This is just appalling. With freedoms comes responsibilities, including freedom of speech because words matter.
@IMeMineWho
9 ай бұрын
@@hippodinoreserve6090 Remember their names!✌💕
@IMeMineWho
9 ай бұрын
@@selah71 She would not have her job without those 3 men sacrificing their lives.
@selah71
9 ай бұрын
@@hippodinoreserve6090 And James Chaney!
@nadineraynor2539
9 ай бұрын
Old American veteran. Would the calling for the genacide of university presidents be harassment?
@ironwork92000
9 ай бұрын
You targeting the president of Harvard?
@GentlemanJack705
9 ай бұрын
Not at all. Though, I don't think anyone calling for genocide of any group be warranted legal impediment. Freedom of speech exists for a reason. If we take it away from people because we don't like what they say, is freedom of speech really free?
@ironwork92000
9 ай бұрын
@@GentlemanJack705 yep. And as an 'old war let's I thought this is what you are fighting for? Freedom of speech, yes?
@TexasTexan2024
9 ай бұрын
Exactly, the concern is the existing genocide, and the kids are asking for the liberation of those facing persecution and murder. It's a plea to cease the government-led genocide, irrespective of any specific religious affiliation. No call for genocide, no antisemitism. This sets the context. Very simple.
@simonpkiss1035
9 ай бұрын
No it does not depend on the context, these University presidents are sick, they should all resign.
@lawrencegoldworm
9 ай бұрын
I'm a Republican but wholeheartedly agree with Joe. The hypocrisy of these educators incredible. These people know better and would say so if not for the large foreign donations they must be receiving from terrorist countries.
@redachekroune
9 ай бұрын
biggest terrorist countries are usa and israhell. biggest hypocrits too. sorry to spoil for you
@dr.g3860
9 ай бұрын
In the 6 years between 2014 and 2020, Muslim-majority countries together donated $4.86 billion (with a B) to American universities. Over just one year, 2019, the kingdom of Saudi Arabia alone donated a total of $270 million to 144 different US universities.
@khawaja1951
9 ай бұрын
Intifada does not equal genocide. By your standard Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was also a “ genocide”.
@az..0N3
9 ай бұрын
Is she a congress women from TelAviv🤔
@khawaja1951
9 ай бұрын
You mean Israel. The Zionist entity based upon lies, hypocrisy, and violence. Armed robbery with the help of a corrupt sheriff.
@bo2.4u6
9 ай бұрын
What about the calling of genocide of the Palestinian people.!?
@fernandoquintana3675
9 ай бұрын
They doesn't care obviously
@bo2.4u6
9 ай бұрын
@@fernandoquintana3675 U don't care! The world sees it differently.
@BigFootTheRealOne
4 ай бұрын
That is also just as bad, but I don't see people calling for the genocide of Palestinians. But I see plenty of pro Palestine people that talk about their to the Sea song that would require ethnic cleansing
@thelastninja4825
9 ай бұрын
wow, coming out of MSNBC, I am revolted by how disgusting our campuses are
@Finalboss619
9 ай бұрын
The CEO of Comcast, which owns MSNBC, is Jewish so this channel is obviously biased.
@mariannenapoles146
9 ай бұрын
Me too.
@bernadetteavetria6474
9 ай бұрын
You don't need a doctoral degree to answer the question if calling for genocide of jews consider bullying or harassment. To the president of Harvard if one of her staff rant genocide to black people what do you think will be her answer?
@veronicagriffin5054
9 ай бұрын
As a black woman, who supports every Jewish person because of the love of their God. You going down a slippery slope. We all know blacks don't have any problems defending themselves, not at all.
@Independent-Thought
9 ай бұрын
Is it ok for Jewish students to call for NO ceasefire ?
@drowningpooralice5505
9 ай бұрын
Yes, why wouldn't it be? What happened in October, happened during a cease-fire.
@Independent-Thought
9 ай бұрын
Isn't that a call for continued deaths of Innocent women and children in Gaza ?@@drowningpooralice5505
@TizBaz5
9 ай бұрын
It would not just be okay, it would be correct.
@Msuraliwalla
9 ай бұрын
Respect MSNBC.. thank you speaking out
@douggraham5082
9 ай бұрын
Joe and Mika got it right for once.
@aurora_occidentalis2248
9 ай бұрын
_"It depends on the context."_ The American Left is now past the verge of insanity.
@roejogan7770
9 ай бұрын
@Tessmage_TesseraYou view Trump in absolutes.
@aurora_occidentalis2248
9 ай бұрын
@Tessmage_Tessera There are _absolutely_ absolutes. Thank you for clarifying your position on genocide.
@shermandudley5548
9 ай бұрын
So much for free speech
@roejogan7770
9 ай бұрын
@Tessmage_TesseraThe first amendment isn’t absolute. Try yelling fire in a crowded theater.
@GentlemanJack705
9 ай бұрын
Do we not have freedom of speech in this country? If I can be persecuted for what I say, then it seems that freedom of speech is only free so long as my assertions do not hurt another person's feelings.
@califleadog5657
9 ай бұрын
What ever happened to freedom of speech? This is classic cancel culture. They had to put a Black face on the panel!
@frankhathaway6005
9 ай бұрын
The university trustees need to force these university presidents to resign.
@dr.g3860
9 ай бұрын
I read that the board of trustees of Penn called an emergency meeting for this morning following this testimony. The dept of education is also investigating them for title VI violations.
@williamsinclair-nk4xq
9 ай бұрын
In a Fascist state the use of force to compel university presidents ( and the captive citizens) to think as the government orders is a means to maintain power and control. Is that what you want?
@mikedvm7478
9 ай бұрын
Glad to see MSNBC finally on the right side
@loveUK36332
9 ай бұрын
These presidents should be sacked without any delay. They both are nuts.
@TizBaz5
9 ай бұрын
Sack, nuts, I concur.
@NikolasKepac-zv5vd
9 ай бұрын
I bet the context doesn’t matter if they were calling for the reinstatement of slavery, double standards
@nadavivry6503
9 ай бұрын
Dear lefties, if she was asked 'Does Calling For all African American's to be our slaves' Violate Harvard's Code Of Conduct?' and she would answer 'it depends on the context' with a smirk on her face, would you react the same? you would give her credit for being Black herself?
@mtam7575
9 ай бұрын
The answer is yes, what's wrong with this woman ?
@danhtran6401
9 ай бұрын
But it's a school. Isn't that where all the dumb people are?...
@eshalaby5235
9 ай бұрын
No one was asking for Jewish genocide. The pro-Palestinian students asked to get their lands back from Zionists. They asked that Israel stop killing Muslims.
@xiaoka
9 ай бұрын
why do you hate freedom of speech, Comrade?
@duncanidaho2097
9 ай бұрын
What woman?
@mtam7575
9 ай бұрын
@duncanidaho2097 the university president; the lady refused to say "yes".
@petermontalbano3910
9 ай бұрын
Take away the 3.2 billion taxpayer funding.
@Jewpiter613
9 ай бұрын
Could you imagine what it's like to be a Jewish student at any of these schools and watch this hearing, and seeing the presidents of your university being complicit in antisemitism???
@ilanzelig5454
9 ай бұрын
fatal mistake the West dont understand the difference between culture and values. multicultural refugees entered the West. its fruitful for every nation. The problem is with refugees from Arab countries, came different values. who are oppost Western values. Different value of human life. women's equality and racism. west will change!
@AndyA1234
9 ай бұрын
Finally, MSNBC has provided a non-partisan, objective &, moreover, truthful, piece of analysis & reporting.
@zEropoint68
9 ай бұрын
why are a bunch of holocaust-deniers suddenly so concerned about antisemitism? did i miss something?
@GlennGoryl
9 ай бұрын
If a particular group of people are being threatened for simply existing in the world, and those in a position to stop it refuse to, then the governors of these states should consider deploying the National Guard on their campuses to protect those being oppressed.
@jacksonspeed4733
9 ай бұрын
I haven’t thought about it, but that is something the governors can do hopefully it doesn’t come to that and these universities get their act together
@aismail8321
9 ай бұрын
LoL... Who the heck are you even talking about? A Palestinian boy was murdered in cold blood, three students were shot... And still stupids in the US think that calling out a foreign nation for the crimes it commit is somehow racist. How can people be this dumb?
@adrianh332
9 ай бұрын
They won't do that because the last time the American national guard was on a university campus during the Vietnam war you got the shootings at Kent state.
@bluejava9397
9 ай бұрын
Who is being “threatened”? Please Cite an Actual credible occurrence please. Something that doesn’t include protestors chanting something that is interpreted as “threatening”. An actual planned threat. Just one.
@giggles7179
9 ай бұрын
I'm seeing "I finally agree with you" a lot in the comments. What, the racism and anti-LGBTQ rhetoric we've been battling the last eight years were too PARTISAN for you?
@bo2.4u6
9 ай бұрын
Freedom of speech on the speech spalls into context. Don't get it twisted.
@TizBaz5
9 ай бұрын
Yes....spalls.
@bo2.4u6
9 ай бұрын
@@TizBaz5 too much attention to small petty detail be little oneself. You got the message! And you still got it twisted.
@noelahg79
9 ай бұрын
Watching these women makes me sick. How did the US education system get here? Something is VERY wrong.
@mr.saturn7833
9 ай бұрын
I’m stunned! Joe and the rest of the crew making some sense. Never thought I’d see the day. 😆
@mariannenapoles146
9 ай бұрын
Me either.
@audreyheart2180
9 ай бұрын
Backstory aside, English-speaking people around the world rally and cry out to the Heavens: "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.." It is a call for Gazan Palestinian’s freedom from oppressors. (I assume, freedom is a basic human right, for all humans, yes?) According to Google, Intifada is self-defense and an uprising against oppressors. (Self-defense against assaulters/ oppressors is a basic human right too, yes?) .. Anti-Israel is not anti-Semitism. Israel has violated the international law and the basic human rights by killing children and civilians and committing ethnic cleansing. Nowadays, Anti-Israel is more like, Anti-Genocide, yes? .. Oh, and if they can afford free healthcare and free education, I would say they can afford their own war crimes
@MLopez-fu8fd
9 ай бұрын
Wow!!! Surprised to hear MSDNC actually come down on the side of REASON for a change!!! Kudos to them!! 😌🤓
@surviveunplugged
9 ай бұрын
Not surprising. It's Republicans doing the "grilling", so the Democrats are going to be against it. Both sides exist for the purpose of criticizing the other. Democrats will hold hearings on racism and the Republicans will say the same thing. Partisan Politics in action, that's all.
@MayMarmaid
9 ай бұрын
Fascists are the dumbest among us. Congrats.
@JohnMoreno1958
9 ай бұрын
Yes. We all turn to Fox for facts...
@Finalboss619
9 ай бұрын
The CEO of Comcast, which owns MSNBC, is Jewish so this channel is obviously biased.
@Reaper-cm4jr
9 ай бұрын
Doesn't happen very often.
@TheLeftwheel
9 ай бұрын
Its weird that they don't say what the hate speech was. Protesting ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and wanton bombing of civilians isn't antisemitism. And being anti-Israel isn't being antisemitic. So what was the hate speech?
@toddsmith6681
9 ай бұрын
To me it’s hate speech and uttering threats and action should be taken against the people uttering the threats.
@JC-tq8gm
9 ай бұрын
Yes, let's turn this into a society where we are all afraid to say anything but "good day". Problem with your idea is that someone else gets to determine what a threat is and that is subjective. Why the big push lately to strip our rights? If you don't like what someone says, don't listen to them. The last thing we need in this country is the word police. They have that in Britain you know and you can't even tell jokes. That's how bad it's gotten.
@NiteMoves2010
9 ай бұрын
Including potus 45.
@JBTheGoat15
9 ай бұрын
Is this new,no,this is what this country thrive off of
@markshoemaker4887
9 ай бұрын
Nobody is criticizing the Jews or wants to hurt any Jewish person. They are criticizing the state of Israel. And its actions.
@MonkeyPox4Harris
9 ай бұрын
Happy Hanukkah
@DeeWeber
9 ай бұрын
Friday
@combatbattalion6
9 ай бұрын
Yes dems are domestic terrorists
@mrphilbert1
9 ай бұрын
Well, ms stephanic, let me try to educate you past your deliberate ignorance on this matter...
@turdferguson3475
9 ай бұрын
Still waiting.....
@peppeddu
9 ай бұрын
I am actually on the side of the university presidents. In America we punish the deed not the words. As much as I hate calling for the killing of anyone, as long as the speech doesn't lead into action it is free speech. The answer to speech you don't like is not less speech but more speech as said by the Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis with the "counterspeech doctrine".
@madamepaulettes5337
9 ай бұрын
Calling for genocide isn't hate speech or harassment dependent on the context?? What would be the context where it would be ok?
@RobertBroughman-ot3fn
9 ай бұрын
Not only should these people be fired these students should be expelled
@juansarabia7530
9 ай бұрын
First they came for the Jews, then they came, intellectuals, then they came.
@davidwelch2791
9 ай бұрын
I think that this is one of those rare occasions that I have to agree with these hosts about this subject matter. Well done. Be safe and be 😎
@agonzalez8924
9 ай бұрын
how? there wasnt a single example cited where someone called for the genocide of jews. not one example!
@MJMcKenzie322
9 ай бұрын
@@agonzalez8924it’s not the matter of someone calling for the genocide of Jews, but failure to condemn that manner of speech
@agonzalez8924
9 ай бұрын
@@MJMcKenzie322 whoa whoa whoa, hold on there buddy. You don't get to move the goalpost. They specifically said they have called for the "genocide of jews", the republican congresswoman said it multiple times, and now these msnbc hosts are repeating it. Any sensible person would ask, when and where did anyone call for the genocide of jews? If you want someone to comment on or speak about a specific topic, you have to give an example of it. Just because the republican congresswoman says it and repeats it several times, does not make it so. These university presidents are not idiots. They know what she meant was the chanting of "from the river to the sea" which was a slogan repeated at some of these protest on college campuses. Which by itself is not a call for genocide, and furthermore is protected speech. They were trying to bait the republican congresswoman to say it, but she wouldn't because she knows it will make her look foolish. That's why she ended her commentary saying they will change the meaning of words in the dictionary if they have to just to ban slogans they don't like. This is literally anti free speech.
@acesfullmike5371
9 ай бұрын
If you want something to report on go to Gaza. Walk down the streets. Go to the hospitals. Look at the bodies still half buried in rubble. Go to Israel prisons filled with children and women. Or just go to the West Bank and talk to people there, whose homes have been stolen. And go to Israel to talk to Israelis. But we are supposed to be bothered because some college kids are feeling "upset" about what is happening in the world? Give me a break...
@AnthonyAPerez-wy2ce
9 ай бұрын
This is exactly how I feel about this whole thing. It's ridiculous.
@jasonito23
9 ай бұрын
I guess it depends on how much money the family making the call donates to the school....
@noobgonebad9860
9 ай бұрын
Crazy world we live in, 1933-1945 all over again
@heidechristinepatterson8778
9 ай бұрын
To me it sounds like the college policies the MIT president cited are merely a reflection of employment law. See here what the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has to say on ‘Harassment’: "Harassment is a form of employment discrimination that violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967, (ADEA), and the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, (ADA). Harassment becomes unlawful where 1) enduring the offensive conduct becomes a condition of continued employment, or 2) the conduct is severe or pervasive enough to create a work environment that a reasonable person would consider intimidating, hostile, or abusive. Although the law doesn't prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious, harassment is illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted)."
@geducam
9 ай бұрын
They should all resign
@l.f.9454
9 ай бұрын
What does that even mean.."when the speech becomes conduct?" UPENN president. I don't understand.
@sarahb.8890
9 ай бұрын
It means when speech is something done in a way where it can actually cause harm/discomfort to someone. Like for example, let’s pretend I hate a guy named Tony. If I went into the middle of an empty field and yelled “I want Tony dead,” that would be wrong, and it would be violent speech, but it wouldn’t be harmful conduct to Tony, and thus the school couldn’t expel me for harassment specifically. Even if I said that to another person without any action or intent to actually do anything to Tony, that wouldn’t be harassment. If I went up to Tony and said “I want you dead,” or convinced a bunch of people to bully him, that WOULD be harassment because I am doing something that makes another individual feel uncomfortable or unsafe. Another question is whether the action occurred in the scope of the university or not. In a lot of cases, unless a transgression is committed on campus or online with campus accounts/devices, many universities will tell you to go to law enforcement because they are less capable of dealing with off-campus offenses. The question the rep asked was intentionally misleading because even if wanting genocide is horrible and might be against DIFFERENT rules, it isn’t inherently harassment, SPECIFICALLY.
@ronRon-fl1qw
9 ай бұрын
Speech is violence. Silence is violence
@AC-re9ee
9 ай бұрын
Funny anti-whiteism was never a problem 🙄
@josephjones825
9 ай бұрын
China Joe can save the day because (as he has repeatedly told us) he grew up in the black churches & synagogues of Delaware simultaneously. 🤥
@vancemead5956
9 ай бұрын
You know you're lying. We know you're lying.
@nigeltufnel9525
9 ай бұрын
Farcical and worthless Winston.
@tflg3257
9 ай бұрын
Joe did say it. 🤣😂
@joseflorian6621
9 ай бұрын
Why my dear republican weren’t outraged when the ones screaming for Jewish genocide were their supporters during trump presidency? I mean antisemitism is antisemitism it doesn’t matter who it comes from why outcry about one but not the other? It will be nice if people in government did actually care but politicians republicans and Democrats alike don’t care all they care is to keep their status and power while the people suffer. The people need to united for the common good and teach a lesson to the political standard that keeps dividing us the system is broken and it is up to the people to fix it
@roejogan7770
9 ай бұрын
Nice whataboutism!
@zgobermn6895
9 ай бұрын
This was just unbelievable.
@RichardTaylor-o2m
9 ай бұрын
I thought they were calling for an end to Israel. I would radically oppose that idea. If someone was calling for genocide ,thats not acceptable by any measure. And I should pay closer attention.
@talihershkovitz689
9 ай бұрын
And what does the end of Israel look like?
@Mario-qw2fo
9 ай бұрын
That black man needs to quit……besides, I’d love to see her qualifications…..we know ‘some’ races are given preference in schools…..
@kellypedersen6590
9 ай бұрын
From the party who has a large part of their base parading around with signs sayong "Jews Will Not Replace Us".
@Thisweekinman
9 ай бұрын
Seriusly
@thirdstringallpro6264
9 ай бұрын
You mean what’s happening in these universities
@libertas5005
9 ай бұрын
no, he means what happened when the tiki torch crowd was marching the streets@@thirdstringallpro6264
@johnborek692
9 ай бұрын
I'm a conservative and I support what you guys say... Thank you!!!! Finally I love America and my freedom I'm scared..
@ianrowland1593
9 ай бұрын
People that won’t answer easy questions don’t get to ask easy questions. Of course talking about the genocide of Jews is wrong. The genocide of any, of any race is wrong. They should have answered yes. However, Stefanik doesn’t get to avoid easy questions like “Is Trump as liar” which requires only one answer yes, and then grandstand on an issue like this. She is from the party of “There were fine people on both sides” when those fine people were chanting “Jews will not replace us”. That is antisemitism exhibit A. Where’s the performative outrage at that??
@hcmd886
9 ай бұрын
Stefanik also promoted the great replacement theory. She is cynically using antisemitism. That said the 3 presidents are either complete idiots or also cynically beholden to other interests
@Hyrule_Origin
9 ай бұрын
"However, Stefanik doesn’t get to avoid easy questions like “Is Trump as liar” which requires only one answer yes, and then grandstand on an issue like this." Wut? This committee is focused on the issue of antisemitism on college campuses. Why are you bringing up Trump, stupid.
@Student_Of_Life09
9 ай бұрын
I wonder what dear Madam Harvard would say if we replace "Jews" with "Blacks," don't jump at me, I'm black.
@joshr.6785
9 ай бұрын
Joe, they said that calling for the extermination of Jews would not necessarily qualify as bullying or harassment. They didn't say it was acceptable, Stefanik would only allow a yes or no response.
@PaulSchmidt-m6x
9 ай бұрын
They didn't answer yes or no so that's an irrelevant point. And they basically said it's acceptable. Because otherwise they would've said something like: "well it doesn't fall under our bullying guidelines but it does fall under our xyz guidelines and is therfore not allowed"
@xiaoka
9 ай бұрын
Stefanik didn't want to hear an explanation, she decided already that some speech was definitely a crime and wanted them to agree with her so she could blame them for something someone said rather than what they've done..
@derekroberts1693
9 ай бұрын
If you're going to be dishonest, at least be intellectually dishonest. If there aren't rules against something then by definition it is "acceptable". The relevant definition of "acceptable" is "able to be tolerated or allowed", so if these schools allow calls for genocide that means calls for genocide are acceptable.
@HallieSinclair
9 ай бұрын
Nah, what they said was that if it was accompanied by *action,* it would be bullying or harassment.
@FromDesertTown
9 ай бұрын
Exactly! The nuance in your comment is important, and flew over the heads of almost everyone in the comments here. They answered the exact question they were asked, sticking to the wording of their universities' policies. What else can they do? They are representing universities, not grandstanding politicians who can move the goalposts and change wording around to sound better to their audience.
@aSSGoblin1488
9 ай бұрын
"would National Socialists on campus calling for the genocide of transpeople be considered bullying and harassment?" put the shoe on the other foot clears up thinking imo
@augustrush7538
9 ай бұрын
This woman should cordially resign. Along with some of the other faculty members.
@augustrush7538
9 ай бұрын
What happened to all the billion dollars in Covid money? Do we need an investigation into Harvard? And other schools?
@MonkeyPox4Harris
9 ай бұрын
this pronoun is a witch
@jasonmeadows712
9 ай бұрын
The arrogant smirking on that ladies face when she answered questions maked me very very angry and disgusted.
@Sturmavk
9 ай бұрын
Apparently, and according to the University President, you have to actually commit gen oh side as a student at Harvard in order to break the code of conduct. Calling for gen oh side and intimidating fellow students on campus is totally okay.
@TizBaz5
9 ай бұрын
The call to genocide was acted on physically, so that's how we know it was harassment!
@kokolovitch56
9 ай бұрын
The three presidents showed exactly how ignorant they are.
@ryanlp5628
9 ай бұрын
What would happen if you stood in the quad at Harvard with a sign that said “trans women are not women.” Yeah, betting there would be zero tolerance in that case…
@HoaDuong-yo8jc
9 ай бұрын
Liz magill must resign.
@aquababy2012
9 ай бұрын
If only this congresswoman could be so direct regarding the 2020 electon.
@ohioskane363
9 ай бұрын
She does not have the moral high ground, despite her dramatic indignation here.
@dr.g3860
9 ай бұрын
The worst person you know just made a good point. Heartbreaking.
@Tyrannosaurus_5000
9 ай бұрын
Does calling for the Genocide of unborn black children constitute hate speech?
@liberalshaveitallbackwards4667
9 ай бұрын
The election that the Democrats rigged? That one?
@tarobinson7411
9 ай бұрын
People have a RIGHT to their opinion...don't like it get OUT OF AMERICA... and NO, ISRAEL won't get another dime.
@TooBadThatDidntKillMe
9 ай бұрын
They're also grilling university presidents on why there isn't enough Islamophobia on those campuses.
@MikeW-c3p
9 ай бұрын
Islamophobe another made up word by crazy leftist
@roejogan7770
9 ай бұрын
So you should be more Islamophobic then since that’s what you want.
@JC-tq8gm
9 ай бұрын
Somebody always reading the wrong answers into a problem to make things worse. lol
@EffSharp
9 ай бұрын
Also: enough with the bs “free speech” nonsense. University campuses not only can, but MUST, discipline students who called for genocide. Just because someone cannot be arrested for hate speech, that does not mean that a campus or government employee can’t be disciplined for it.
@bo2.4u6
9 ай бұрын
My ancestors went through 400 years of this right here in America. And worse!!
@livefreedrivenh6067
9 ай бұрын
Going back thousands of years for Jewish ancestors who also experienced worse. Not even including ww2
@Reaper-cm4jr
9 ай бұрын
SO your ancestors got here 3 years after the Pilgrims?
@bo2.4u6
9 ай бұрын
@@Reaper-cm4jr1619. In the bottom of a ship as slaves. And part of the indigenous people that were here before Christopher Columbus.
@Reaper-cm4jr
9 ай бұрын
@@bo2.4u6 And you can trace your ancestry back to that time?
@Duude125
9 ай бұрын
@@Reaper-cm4jrThat would be impossible to do so you probably won’t get a reply from him.
@GeraldineWarren-vi8fw
9 ай бұрын
Just like calling for the genocide of Gaza is harassment?
@JC-tq8gm
9 ай бұрын
Wait, whose calling for that in the US?
@GeraldineWarren-vi8fw
9 ай бұрын
@@JC-tq8gm , anyone that remains silent. What was that saying 🤔 If you don't stand for something you will fall for anything??!!
@JC-tq8gm
9 ай бұрын
If I remain silent, it doesn't mean anything nefarious. It just means I'm minding my own business and not being a "world Karen". The US should do more of that and let others take care of their own business. We have plenty of problems ( like these ladies ) here at home to deal with.
@GeraldineWarren-vi8fw
9 ай бұрын
@@JC-tq8gm , I got it. Let's pray that you will never need someone to stand against the injustice you might face. As for me I want a village.
@JC-tq8gm
9 ай бұрын
@@GeraldineWarren-vi8fw A village is great! Why don't we fill that village with sane people though and not with folks bent on destruction. Our education system is falling so far behind the rest of the world it is ridiculous and it falls right on the shoulders of folks like this. They have stopped educating and now all they want to do is advocate. Diversity and inclusion are the main topics in any discussion now and that goes all the way to the grade school level. Educators are not supposed to be fighting "injustice", they are supposed to be teaching the 3 R's as it were, but they have gotten off the path and our children are suffering for it.
@eniselmenic5056
9 ай бұрын
part of the problem is that people keep saying the by singing "from the river to the sea" you are saying genocide... so "it depends on the context" of things like that
@hcmd886
9 ай бұрын
Here is the context: at the wake of a brutal attack on Jews by an organization that call for the genocide of Jews, students at elite colleges supported Hammas and calked for Palestinians to eliminate Jews between the Mediterranean and the Jordan river
@odedrokachify
9 ай бұрын
The question wasn’t about any phrase-question was simply if calling for the genocide of Jews…not what constitute a call for genocide.
@TizBaz5
9 ай бұрын
And even if someone thinks that it's not a call to genocide, at the very least it is a dog whistle chanted to harass and intimidate Jewish students. So therefore it would qualify as harassment anyway.
@Stevedrums741
9 ай бұрын
Not a single Democrat.....Says all I need to know about the Party and where it stands. My poor Mom is rolling in her grave.
@rachelk4805
9 ай бұрын
I mean... I can't get behind people who want to protect Jewish people in Israel but not Americans in America who also assert that they put "America first." Like, cool story bro... Incite more violence here and pretend that you care about violence elsewhere.
@Mrs.Deanna_Ember
9 ай бұрын
Nobody is calling for genocide, they are calling for Israeli gov to stop it's genocide
@roejogan7770
9 ай бұрын
What genocide?
@aurora_occidentalis2248
9 ай бұрын
English speakers of average or better proficiency would write "its genocide." If that were true, I mean.
@arbor-sq4jk
9 ай бұрын
palestine dosnt even exists nymore the point is mute
@Mrs.Deanna_Ember
9 ай бұрын
@@arbor-sq4jk yet you're angry at the protesters for making your point 🙄🤦♀️
@RC-sv7mt
9 ай бұрын
@@Mrs.Deanna_Ember The majority of Palestinians support Hamas. “By 70 percent to 28 percent, Palestinians oppose a two-state solution - "the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel." An even larger number - 76 percent to 21 percent - oppose a "one state solution ...in which the two sides enjoy equal rights." Given a choice among three options for "ending the occupation and building an independent state," 21 percent prefer "negotiations," 22 percent "peaceful popular resistance" and 52 percent select "armed conflict."🤷♂️
@earnthis1
9 ай бұрын
What do you want? They ANSWERED the question a bunch of times. Why do you keep lying about that, Joe?
@turretplug6858
9 ай бұрын
Good morning BSNBC, what are we pretending to be outraged about today?
@nigeltufnel9525
9 ай бұрын
Desperate and pathetic Winston.
@neerajamb
8 ай бұрын
Why are these 3 women smiling smugly?! Are they out of touch with the world?!
@mathiasbartl903
9 ай бұрын
Where are all the people that were so worried about censorship on college campuses and cancel culture?
@davidcohen7106
9 ай бұрын
🦆The Ministry of Peace oversees war The Ministry of Love carries out the torture of political prisoners and serve as the police of Oceania The Ministry of Truth is in charge of changing the content in history books and in the news to agree with the Party’s beliefs
@avrgrando
9 ай бұрын
Is it ok to call for the genocide of Black people or LGBTQ people on campuses? If it is not then it is not ok to call for the Genocide of Jews on campus. This is not something hard to understand. Calling for genocide of any group of people can incite violence. Preventing the incitement of violence is not censorship.
@yitzchakmordechai
9 ай бұрын
@road2moralitylooks like you have a long road to find morality
@MsMak12356
9 ай бұрын
@road2morality Your reply to mathiasbartl903 sounds rather anti-semitic. "Road to morality"? Really?
@alexamorris8411
9 ай бұрын
@road2moralityJewish lives are precious. Does it anger you that some people are trying to protect Jewish people from hate crimes or harassment?
@arunp8838
9 ай бұрын
Israel-Palestine is the only issue I've seen in America to not blindly fall into expected Democrat vs Republican trap. For once, everyone is expressing views independently!
@be643
9 ай бұрын
Its a vague question. "Calling for" something isnt specific enough for the presidents to be certain to say they should be expelled. I believe the students should be expelled if they call for the genocide of anyone. But ask a better question.
@ord4r857
9 ай бұрын
Jews for Trump 2024!
@Reaper-cm4jr
9 ай бұрын
I agree----"Let's Go Brandon"!!!!!!
@markmierzejewsky95341
9 ай бұрын
Harvard is full of hate
@combatbattalion6
9 ай бұрын
🌚🐵🤓🍌🌈
@321edr
9 ай бұрын
The question they should ask her is - how much money did you receive from Qatar and Saudi Arabia ? Most weirdos presidents I ever seen.
@knowyourfiction9591
9 ай бұрын
I really, really dislike Stefanik. But, this is a pretty disturbing hearing. Calling for genocide… we can’t be doing that. America is better than that. At least, I thought we were 😢
@JC-tq8gm
9 ай бұрын
Not lately...
@Obimacwen
9 ай бұрын
They are talking about a fictional scenario when there is a Real Genocide happening in Gaza by Israel.
@andyternent1611
9 ай бұрын
Wow, they all should lose their jobs. They are the problem!
@badomen9057
9 ай бұрын
For allowing students to protest for peace and against genocide? It’s amazing how MSM fed you such a steady stream of pro israel propaganda that you do not realise israel is the occupier. Israel is also the one committing genocide.
@tflg3257
9 ай бұрын
You want college administrators who kowtow to Z ionists.
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