New support passive: Fold When making eye contact with an enemy dps, you instantly die from sheer nervousness and the guilt of straying your crosshair too far from the tank you were pocketing.
@danisob3633
Ай бұрын
as a main support i agree
@anthonyfarias5076
Ай бұрын
"To compensate for this nerf, kiriko now has 2 suzus."
@kinisiko
Ай бұрын
You guys are not real with these takes
@Aderask
Ай бұрын
Kiriko is still objectively the worst hero in the game to duel. She gets a free invuln, has insane headshot damage with easy projectiles, can teleport away if the fight goes slightly out of her favor, and can literally reset her cooldowns mid fight abusing spawn TP. At least with Bap once you take out his lamp and burst heal he falls over relatively quickly but Kiri is just a pain in the ass no matter what.
@alejandromoya5104
Ай бұрын
Sure I guess, but fully leaving a fight is just that you entirely disengage. If you’re seeing through the entire 1v1 bap is still objectively worse, kiri is just more of a rat because she can run away.
@neoramaredzone8544
Ай бұрын
@@alejandromoya5104agreed Kiriko’s more annoying but bapt is definitely worse to 1v1
@LiterallySpikeSpiegel
Ай бұрын
Kiriko is annoying because she can INSTANTLY teleport away when the duel SOMEHOW isn’t in her favor. Bap, on the other hand, has basically 3 health states and if he pulls out his immortality field you basically lose by default because you have to break it yourself while the Bap can kill you while you’re focused on breaking the field.
@neoramaredzone8544
Ай бұрын
@@LiterallySpikeSpiegel Bapt can basically increase his effective health. The problem is a lot of the new healers don’t have obvious downsides like the older ones.
@YMan-zo5kg
Ай бұрын
Kiriko projectile is not that easy to just win duels with. Definitely easier to just burst people down with bap if you know how to play an fps.
@blueseaturtle6031
Ай бұрын
*I like genji, but he sucks in the current state in overwatch* He was nerfed to oblivion and tanks buffed to the extreme making him deal less poke to them On top of that, you got a god tier genji player getting easily countered by one button and then your free kill gets took by some stupid cc ability It’s like what samito said “I’m not gonna take all that time to learn a hero and get countered by a click of a button”
@user-ei9fo5rk9l
Ай бұрын
i love how the game below stated is Marvel Rivals instead of overwatch LMAO
@wildsirius4649
Ай бұрын
And this time, he didn't even talked about Rivals at all
@Zaary
Ай бұрын
marvel rivals check: ✅
@marcelio2k175
Ай бұрын
meanwile in paladins : lamp is a tank ultimate , granting few sec of team immortality if you are close to he tank chanelling it, there is 0 support abilities that grand immortality ( outside of ultimates) and dps passive is active for every role and increseas trought the duration of the match
@SoloCap-Music
Ай бұрын
If Lamp's effect only happened once it was fully raised up, that would actually add depth and require skill to use, making you need to predict when you will need to use it and adding a bit of a risk. The only issue is, Blizzard became allergic to adding mechanics with depth once the original devs left.
@_nahwhat
Ай бұрын
KZitem has decided your videos are always related to rivals
@diogo_23d46
Ай бұрын
I made a suggestion in Karq's video to have Bap's imortality field now provides 75% dmg reduction and heal you to 120hp max if youre under 100hp (like its the amount of hp u have + the amount you need to reach 120). It can be lower numbers but i wish they just removed invunerability from his kit.
@WunderOW
Ай бұрын
I've been complaining about immortalities since the start just like Samito and I'm so glad that more creators like yourself are finally talking about it more. As a genji player I've almost always felt that the new heroes being added are just here to purely counter skilled play and individual play making, because their kit just always seems to hard counter it.
@atomicaftershow
Ай бұрын
Bap-Kiri has got to be the most annoying combo because it's double immortality. If you bait one immortality, the other support still has them, so good luck trying to kill anything But tbh, anything with Bap is annoying, there is like no downside in playing him. High healing, high damage, some mobility, and an immortality. But Overwatch doesn't have a support/healing problem
@Megggazap
Ай бұрын
combine that with one of the best ults in the game, and a hit box not as big as lifeweaver, he is the character with zero downsides
@blkc744
Ай бұрын
clip that and send it to samito
@mvndoc
Ай бұрын
Countdown till Marvel Rivals 🥳🥳🥳
@SoloCap-Music
Ай бұрын
It will never make sense why they made a Support character the best duelist in the game. EDIT: it was probably unintentional bc I don't think Blizzard is capable of thinking more than 5 minutes into the future
@NotVoidly
Ай бұрын
Why is it that content creators could actually balance overwatch better the the balancing team?
@getbowsedon
Ай бұрын
Because the devs don’t play the game lol
@austinjackson9650
Ай бұрын
It's super hard to balance a game like Overwatch. For example, if you decrease Genji shuriken damage by 2, he loses his 1 shot combo. If you increase it by 2, he can 1 shot the "tank dps" like reaper, who aren't supposed to be able to get 1 shot(it's kinda dumb for a character with no long range to get 1 tapped) And you'll say, well genji is hard to play because supports can save themselves or their tm8s easily. And I agree, but in ranks Plat and below(which is where over 80% of people are at), supports don't react quickly to dives, especially 1-shots. So it's hard to make genji good, because he becomes a menace in mid-low rank. But it sucks to nerf him because he becomes very difficult to play in high ranks. Now apply this same logic to every single hero, and how they interact with every single other hero, and you get an extremely complicated spiderweb of balance changes that constantly have to be changed. Sure, you can watch Necros(best genji player) say genji needs a buff, or Bap needs a nerf. But he has very limited exposure to the rest of the player base, and he also never plays any other character, and NEVER plays supports, so he really doesn't get how the interactions feel from the other side. And I'm a genji one trick, I'd love if genji got a buff, but I also understand little changes can make a big difference. So I just have fun and try not to care about win/lose too much
@austinjackson9650
Ай бұрын
Btw, I do think Bap's immortality field needs a nerf. It needs to go from 20 seconds cooldown to 12. And it also needs a 3/4 second deploy time, so it's not instant deployment. And go from lasting 5 seconds to 4(or 3)
@kinisiko
Ай бұрын
@@austinjackson9650You have a good example of a nice game balance, wdym "Its hard to balance"? Creators game mode was pretty fun, surely it had some flaws but it still was more fun than quick play or competitive
@austinjackson9650
Ай бұрын
@kinisiko it's just different playstyles. Some people want the game to be fun, some want it to feel more competitive. Some people are very good, Some are very bad. Personally I like the game to feel competitive. I like to be rewarded when I make good plays. I would like to see my hundreds of hours in Genji training packs pay off. Being "better" than someone else is my version of fun(in video games) And I think that most other high-level players would agree with this. That is why things like Imortslity field, suzu, and other no-skill abilities are frustrating. However....most of everykne else fucking sucks ass at this game. They play like 10 hours a week. They can't aim, and they don't practice or warm up. They need crutches like that, or they will die over and over, then stop playing. The devs know that, so to keep that part of the player base, they add easy to use characters and unfair abilities. Unfortunately, when high skill players abuse low skill heros, you get "unbalanced" at the top end. So it's a constant battle for the devs to choose which half of the player base to appeal to
@SlyPengu
Ай бұрын
Swap baps ult with lamp. Window could be up for the same duration as lamp but as it gets closer to ending the strength of window lessens. As for a lamp ult, beef up its hp so it doesn’t get destroyed easily and have it last 8 to 12 seconds. In a way it would be like classic mercy ult where it extends the fight.
@allenlow5081
Ай бұрын
What if like instead of immo ability, they change Bap's E to damage taken decrease (idk maybe 70%? ), which mean you will still die but not easily. So the guy being protected will have some time to fight back.
@LeatherNinja
Ай бұрын
People have said this for actual years but they probably won't do it because the game would be too balanced without immort
@999_4ttain
Ай бұрын
I definitely think Batist's E skill should have an invincibility effect when activated while floating in the air. Now, it activates immediately after use, which is too OP.😂
@danieldosso2455
Ай бұрын
Play the 6v6 custom game code
@NotVoidly
Ай бұрын
19:00 If you look straight up and simply hold space im pretty sure you can climb those.
@glamodrama287
16 күн бұрын
But Necros "Soldiers biotic field is stronger than every support abilities in the game!!" 💀
@cime62
29 күн бұрын
And it's exactly why one shots have always been so broken in this game. Because if you dont have a hero that one shots, you can't kill shit. This is why pocket-[InsertHeroWhoCanOsWithPocketHere] is so good. This is also why Widow is so good
@chinbolsas7008
Ай бұрын
or views in 2 seconds, I miss the old necros
@mandm1418
Ай бұрын
That one article map when it’s always day
@BuffGenji
Ай бұрын
13:30 don’t think duration should be nerfed cuz Suzu currently fills the role of burst immunity, and I’d rather lamp have like a 1 second proc time. His regenerative burst also should heal himself for less, then maybe he won’t be better than most of the DPS in a 1v1
@bigboss4993
Ай бұрын
It hurts to watch what has become if Genji
@digital_nex2247
Ай бұрын
ye you need 3 hits to kill someone with blade, and killing supports is extremely hard. especially if the support is illari or bap. those two do so much damage while being able to heal themselves. the game is actually so shit, since they added hybrid charecters.
@BRIJUNKO
Ай бұрын
Immortality field should be an ultimate ability not a freaking regular ability, then they could turn the window into an ability instead but reduce it's effectiveness. Also yeah I agree kiriko should just cleanse but a new add-on could be if an ally is afflicted with a negative effect Suzuki will grant 15% ult charge to the ally and herself
@BendMax
Ай бұрын
since we are on the topic of heros having 2-3 phases to their boss fight. can we talk about how echo gets 3 fucking lives for her ultimate, and 1-2 possible ultimates of her choice. then the fun stuff begins if echo copies bap, she now is a 5 phase boss
@skrrrtsusman3450
Ай бұрын
in paladins if a teamwide or more than 1 person immortality effect exists its an ult
@E-Rapist007
Ай бұрын
GYATTCROS 😛
@WillOfTheFungalNetwork
Ай бұрын
Im a LW lover so maybe my opinion is void, but the thing that really makes bap and kiri so infuriating for me is that even without their immortalities they're still really strong characters. Also their invulns are better than LW's because they have no risk inherent to them other than just the risk of not having them and just having to rely on your incredibly powerful gun to win fights instead
@rockykrivijanski1891
Ай бұрын
You and Samito need to get together to talk about your shared hatred of immortality abilities. Zero risk, all reward.
@crack-man4071
Ай бұрын
I don’t think that the imor abilities were shown in any cinematics. Sooo, why not get rid of them
@Igorharazin624
Ай бұрын
Edgemaxxing to Necros day 60
@m.farrelfahrezi4301
Ай бұрын
not youtube claiming this is marvel rivals 💀💀
@TwoSox-
Ай бұрын
lifeweaver pull should work like zarya bubble should be possible break it and stop the pull effect still would be strong af but at least there is something u can do
@IDontPostAnymore123
Ай бұрын
Bap being more tanky then 80% of actual tanks
@dsvd4727
Ай бұрын
Damage negation or invulnerabilities should at least always be a commitment, genji can't do anything while deflecting, rein can't attack while shielding, mei can't do anything in ice block, reaper can't attack in fart form, why bap can just drop his lamp, spending 0.002 sec to make himself immortal, and just keep shooting at you, kiriko drops a bag of milk on the ground and instantly can just headshot you, it kinda the same with moira too, but at least she can't three tap you, what is this two for a price of one deal
@daviddavila9213
Ай бұрын
The fact they haven’t made immortally Field a ult is beyond me!
@dojo8627
Ай бұрын
Pylon literally plays the game for you
@dharmams3856
Ай бұрын
Pls Blizzard listen to this
@pericovd929
Ай бұрын
devs are main support
@ricey3952
Ай бұрын
Just like suzu now, it should not be instant. Doesn't matter the hp they nerf it to, when a Bap can place it behind cover you cannot do anything.
@saltybreaker2066
Ай бұрын
You forgot Ana nade
@richards8172
Ай бұрын
You need LoS with lamp for invul
@LackadaisicalLord
Ай бұрын
How about just not let bap shoot in lamp. Like reaper and vent can go invulnerable but they can’t shoot and immediately win any fight against any dps. Idk why bap can put down an invulnerability lamp and just shoot at some genji with 0 punishment
@F1REY
Ай бұрын
Day 143 edging to Necros
@_nahwhat
Ай бұрын
day 86 edging to f1rey
@YMan-zo5kg
Ай бұрын
I get it but bro acting like you can’t bait it out and it goes on a long cooldown. Sure he didn’t get the kill but he forced lamp and his teammates could make a game changing play with another ult to follow up.
@lancefisher8358
Ай бұрын
Bap player here chiming in Suzu is worse than lamp or at least when it released
@spencerlail8282
Ай бұрын
Just play the invisible lady when you play against that guy. Because you know you that ability and there’s not banning in the game either. As a support main I hate that lady
@candlestick6294
Ай бұрын
you said it the balance for the causal which is why they wont remove half of the bad shit for balance imagine getting on the game for 2 hoiurs a week and playing a no life genji not much you can do unless you have a broken ability
@Bluuueeeee
Ай бұрын
Day 31 of asking necros to play ghostrunner already
@sahaakhiyat3703
Ай бұрын
I still remember how plat Baptiste killed you when you nanobladed him. Dude just lamped, then AOE hilled and that was enough to kill nanoboosted Top500 Genji Waiting for Marvel Rivals, this game shouldn't exist at this point. They more busy with making Tank role suffer more and more rather than doing something actually working (by nerfing supports for example, returning 6v6, making Shimadas great again and list goes on)
@Deroros
Ай бұрын
W 3 am post
@ncascini01
Ай бұрын
Ground and pound
@adrianix4580
Ай бұрын
does anyone know what happened to shadder2k?
@user-ei9fo5rk9l
Ай бұрын
locked under his basement 🤍
@sahaakhiyat3703
Ай бұрын
Didn't he retire because of hand injury from years ago ? I mean he came back for OW2 but then previous injury were still affecting him so he once again retired He streamed occasionally from time to time but he still on retirement, no ? Did he return recently and disappeared again ?
@adrianix4580
Ай бұрын
@@sahaakhiyat3703 i mean hes last video on youtube was year ago and i also cameback after longer break and i remeber watching shadder and necros the most so i was wondering what happened to him
@sahaakhiyat3703
Ай бұрын
@@adrianix4580 understood. He retired after that last youtube videos. Like, he stopped uploading and started to sometimes stream on twitch, then again retired stating that he still have problems with health and that he lost interest in OW again. I mean, can we blame him, Genji is even more shittier than he was when he played lol
@liamnerdwob1919
Ай бұрын
Just make baps abilities not affect himself and the character would be instantly 10x healthier for the game. Same with suzu at least for the invulnerability. Instant nerf to the braindead get out of jail free cards without nerfing their team utility. Get on it Blizzard.
@otsu3011
Ай бұрын
of course suzu or lamp
@ncascini01
Ай бұрын
Immortality should only be ultimates or shouldn't even be in the game, even as an ultimate.
@animeanime7849
Ай бұрын
I’m fine with Immortality as a basic ability as long as the immortal person can’t actually attack, such as Mei iceblock, Reaper, venture, etc.
@ncascini01
Ай бұрын
Support is the role that comes with training wheels. Honestly, why play dps? I've been playing bap and killing pharah's because he's the best hero in the game to contest her.
@jens3993
29 күн бұрын
du ble offisielt eid av meitemarken
@JumpsOw
Ай бұрын
Day 42 of waiting for Necros to get sticky again!
@water0000
Ай бұрын
agreed
@elpebblo
Ай бұрын
Actually it's two abilities 🤓
@dieupoulpe
Ай бұрын
All support are overpowered... Imagine play support (heal) and make more dps/s than you dps... With stupid abilities... The one that is balanced corectly is vital. Try 1 think fight a dps that is healed by a suport... It s bra7n dead... Im making a best of doom play (for me) and i remember the time doom was a good caracter hard to play with fun tecks and could destroy idiots trough lamp..
@proddray
Ай бұрын
Genji diff
@vexthepichu226
Ай бұрын
Day 47 asking Necros to play Paladins
@_nahwhat
Ай бұрын
Day 86 edging to F1REY
@otpcass
Ай бұрын
i hate ana nade also
@shawnbarrett7632
Ай бұрын
Dude, you complaining is like a lion complaining why the gazelle has fast legs. 😅 omg I'm complaining because i gotta work for my food. Hahahah
@kithkin01
Ай бұрын
you are losing with aimbot
@joeribeiro2839
Ай бұрын
This is all true... BUT... its equally dumb that genji can "deflect" a fucking 7ft rocket powered hammer 😂... I'm all for nerfing immortalities... but delete that dumb shit from the game first lol
@kurvaanyad12
Ай бұрын
Supports have ruined this game since brig. Imagine realizing this in 2024 when its your job to play everyday xddd
@ichigokurosaki69
Ай бұрын
ngl suzu feel balanced but lamp - since it's multiple seconds active - feels very unbalanced
@digital_nex2247
Ай бұрын
Suzu is not balanced
@scavvy4860
Ай бұрын
First thing I see tho is you maulding over trying to 1v1 a bap when you know he hasn't used immortality. Makes it hard to take the rest of the vid serious when the first thing presented is a blatant error on your part. You know how hard it is to play Genji, you know that you constantly have to keep track of every single enemy cooldown to be effective, while it's BS and completely unfair, that's how it is.
@smallworldhaker7781
Ай бұрын
the whole point is it’s bs and completely unfair that’s y he’s complaining tho
@scavvy4860
Ай бұрын
@@smallworldhaker7781 That has always been Genji, pretty much. So it’s not much use to talk about it.
@smallworldhaker7781
Ай бұрын
@@scavvy4860eh without discussion abt it there’s even less of a chance that the devs will not make changes to the busted boring characters that ruin the game
@scavvy4860
Ай бұрын
@@smallworldhaker7781 You think Bap is boring? Or genji? Either way, Bap is pretty strong, yeah. There's no reason for lamp to insta-immortality even before it's raised in the air. Like, it has a whole animation from being thrown, landing, sitting on the floor, then shooting into the air. There's no reason it shouldn't be required for it to be in the air to have the effect.
@LeatherNinja
Ай бұрын
@@scavvy4860"that's how it is" is an incredibly brainless thing to say. Supports are better than DPS? Just how it is. Tanks are simultaneously the best and worst role in the game? Just how it is.
@rahli_9252
Ай бұрын
First
@Nyyytar7n
Ай бұрын
im 1st
@Nyyytar7n
Ай бұрын
nvm i refreshed im 2nd lmao
@gwynbleidd8723
Ай бұрын
THEY WILL NEVER NERF SUPPORTS STOP COMPLAINING AND DEAL WITH IT NOW
@LeatherNinja
Ай бұрын
JUST BEND OVER AND TAKE IT LIKE A GOOD BOY
@sassiesasquatch7072
Ай бұрын
Your a gm genji you know he has lamp active don't commit to the dive lol you were just ego fighting him
@supplantermusic9413
Ай бұрын
he makes a good point in the beginning though, just give lamp a longer deploy time like blade and thatd be alot more fair. having an instantaneous immortality button for you and your team is just crazy
@sahaakhiyat3703
Ай бұрын
Oh, OW redditor right there. Didn't know that you guys now spread your brainless opinions into KZitem. Still teaching Top500 players how to play the game when they state obvious problems with Support supremacy ?
@ben69028
Ай бұрын
You still have to force lamp somehow. That's the problem. If your gm you know you have to force lamp so you can make a play. So you eventually have to duel baptist on the flank preferably to get him to drop lamp so the rest of your team can make a play. That's why baptist and kiriko are broken. There's no counter. You have to risk it all to force that thing or play widowmaker and one shot them. So 90% can't play the game and risk dying trying to force lamp and live because your brain dead and can't understand that the ability is broken and has been broken for years.
@DIzzieBizzie
Ай бұрын
...
@ChimpRevolution
Ай бұрын
That doesn't make it balanced because you have to force it. He has to take a risk to get the bap to actually use it then disengage and renengage. That requires like a 5 step plan from the gengi when the bap only needs 1 step press E.
@liamelui
Ай бұрын
imagine crying about a 125 hp lamp with half a minute cd
@ronald6563
Ай бұрын
imagine advocating for overpowered, no skill abilities 😮
@animeanime7849
Ай бұрын
@@ronald6563a vast majority of abilities in the game since day one can be classified as “non skilled”
@ronald6563
Ай бұрын
@@animeanime7849 what’s ur point fruitcake. stay on topic. Lamp is the epitome of maximum value for minimum input
@ChimpRevolution
Ай бұрын
@animeanime7849 LMAO name 5 abilities from the original cast not DLC characters that have completely brain dead abilities that make it difficult to near impossible to counterplay
@ChimpRevolution
Ай бұрын
Doesn't matter if it's 125 hp when you already burned cooldowns to get the bap low plus if he throws it around a corner that thing might as well be indestructible for 5 secs because you can't break it
@iFly10FeetHigh
Ай бұрын
There should be damag3 reduction abilities but never full immortality. Those abilities should always be bleeds through damage at the very least
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