I don't know why comments were accidentally turned off for this video... my bad. xD Commenting army, advance at will!
@ButterflyMoon23
Жыл бұрын
The Voyage of The Dawn Treader is a hard book to bring to screen, mostly because it doesn’t have a singular plot line like the first two, or at least, not one with very dramatic stakes anyway. The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe had the Pevensie children overthrow the White Witch and restore peace and prosperity to Narnia. Prince Caspian’s plot was to overthrow the oppressing rule of the Telmarines and restore freedom to the Narnians. The Voyage of the Dawn Treader is more like an exploration of the surrounding areas under Narnian rule, and a to give a sort of finality to what happened to the characters of the previous two books. It’s a wonderful and emotional read for avid Narnia fans, but I can see how it wouldn’t translate easily to screen or be easy to capture new fans with. Maybe they could have focused on Caspian finding the Seven Lords more, and on his character development as a new-ish king, kind of like the book. I don’t know. I do think Andrew Adamson would have probably done it better (no shade to Michael Apted, of course), but it still would have been difficult to sell to general audiences, in my humble opinion.
@lukasmiller486
8 ай бұрын
Just follow the narrative of the book like the BBC radio tapes with the episodical structure of the book. Also, add a couple of scenes in the beginning with Lucy’s relationship with Marjorie to help the audience understand what Marjorie was going through at school and home and how Lucy reached out to her and how Lucy is jealous of Susan because she thinks her mother loves her more. That would serve as a good way to prepare the audience for the scene with the magicians book later on.
@slimcognito383
Ай бұрын
From what I got when rereading the Voyage Dawn Treader earlier this year it felt to me more like an island hopping adventure . Where most of the things that happened were contained to the island they happened on. Very little carried over to the next island.
@johnthecloud
7 ай бұрын
The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe is a hard act to follow. It's the one story in the Narnia chronicles that everyone knows or has read. My favourite is The Magician's Nephew, but I consider that one almost unfilmable.
@naisargibuch2168
6 ай бұрын
I would sell my soul to see an adaptation of that. Reading it was such an important moment in my childhood
@johnthecloud
6 ай бұрын
@@naisargibuch2168 I actually learnt how to love reading from that book. Beforehand I read mechanically, and with no real appetite for it. I was about 7 years old, and my parents were strict in sending me to bed early at around 7:30-8pm. I had to keep quiet, and stay in bed. In winter is was easy, but in summer with the sun shining through the curtains, and noises of older children playing coming up from the street, it was very hard and very boring. Being so bored, I ended up getting a book off the bookcase and reading it. It was The Magician's Nephew. The teacher had read The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe to us at school, but I didn't realise that this book was related to it when I started reading. I was transported from my sunny bedroom to Edwardian London, then on to The Wood Between the Worlds, Charn, and finally Narnia. I was totally spellbound, and the wonder of the story kept me reading. There was a frisson of doing something I shouldn't (reading instead of sleeping), but there was also the stillness and familiarity of my bedroom contrasting so much with the adventure story I was reading. I understood at that moment that reading could be fulfilling, and from then on my reading got a lot better.
@arabellasskinboots2508
Ай бұрын
I LOVE the magicians nephew. but yeah an adaptation is not gonna happen
@ohood1788
Жыл бұрын
I actually really liked Susan's storyline in the second movie about her being more guarded because of how scared she was of getting hurt again when she's inevitably ripped away from the world she sees as home. Her romance with Caspian though, was indeed atrocious. It felt more like it distracted from her character arc rather than benefited it in any way. Their "relationship" was extremely forced and underdeveloped, it wasn't based in anything and felt like we were just supposed to buy it because well he is a boy and she is a girl. Caspian and Susan's storylines had nothing to do with each other so this dynamic didn't serve to further either of their character development and instead felt like a wast of screen time . I would have much rather they used that time for more Susan and Edmund interactions, they're my favorite duo but unfortunately have very little scenes together. I think it would have been ultimately better to scrap the romance in favor of more sibling bonding with all four of them so that it would hit even harder when Peter and Susan are told they won't be able to return to Narnia. I also really disliked Lucy's arc in the third movie. She's jealous because her sister is beautiful. Really? That's what we're going with? Never mind that it feels so disconnected from the way Lucy and Susan's relationship was depicted in the previous films but it's also just boring? They could have given her something that was more relevant to the plot. I'm also just tired of female characters being characterized as jealous of other female characters because of physical attributes/ male attention. It's such an overdone cliché at this point, and paints women as overly concerned with beauty as well as constantly being in competition with each other, like not every woman is the evil queen from Snow White. I think they could have focused on Lucy's feeling of inadequacy in general and not just in the case of her looks, although that could have been a part of it too, and they could have integrated it better with the overall story of the movie. Also having Lucy focus so much on Susan's looks and wanting to emulate that specifically kind of makes it seem like the only admirable thing about Susan is her beauty which just feels bizarre.
@jaredvaughan1665
10 ай бұрын
Prince Caspian had too much fighting. Too serious
@socketsbro5537
8 ай бұрын
the difference in production quality really took me out of the third film. Like how is the cgi and camera quality so much better in the first and second
@tyagirodriguez4947
8 ай бұрын
well, both films had a bigger budget than the third one. Prince Caspian didn't bring as much money as it was originally anticipated to, so the studio decided to play it a bit more safe for Dawn Treader in terms of budget, which by the way did work for them in terms of financial gain😂
@tomgu2285
Ай бұрын
Because the third had a much lower budget and it still looks good what are you talking about?
@Lily-rz8mg
10 ай бұрын
I agree that Peter, in particular, came across as being much meaner in the movie. But I think it’s because the filmmakers were actually trying to make the whole thing MORE realistic. The novel is a fairly tale. Peter is supposed to be a noble knight who tries to protect the weak. He only tells Edmund off after the latter has made fun of Lucy for days on end, and made her miserable. In the movie he seems to be going off on Edmund for every small comment, which I found excessive. But I think they were trying to make Peter more human, and psychologize him. He’s a teenager who has been torn away from his parents and is under pressure to take care of his siblings. He is less gracious, but it’s actually something I’d expect a 16 year old to do under those circumstances. The movie also makes Edmund more sympathetic by portraying him as a traumatized child who misses his mom and dad. I think the attempts to make the characters more realistic are handled OK in Wardrobe, but it all really breaks down in Prince Caspian. In that movie, Peter goes nuts because he’s been thrown back into a child’s body after being a king for 15 years. Lewis was clearly not interested in telling that kind of story, and the changes just ended up making Peter insufferable
@shamwow1893
Жыл бұрын
Eustace was beyond annoying. I agree with you. I really appreciate your analysis and think you're spot-on. Nice.
@beewayne5852
8 ай бұрын
Rust ace was soooooo annoying I almost cut the movie off just because of his bad and obnoxious acting
@nochannelmusician769
7 ай бұрын
Eustace is supposed to be annoying
@FiveDollarFilms
Жыл бұрын
On a scale of 1-10 how annoying was Eustace in Voyage of the Dawn Treader?
@chaineloisir2506
8 ай бұрын
He was fun
@richardbaines5740
Жыл бұрын
What the Narnia films were amazing. And a big part of my childhood
@nochannelmusician769
7 ай бұрын
Did you watch the video?
@richardbaines5740
7 ай бұрын
@@nochannelmusician769 yeah but i was referring to the dawn treader
@LeadingSol
5 күн бұрын
There are some old adaptations that did silver chair too!😁 those were actually super fun!
@MrToryhere
8 ай бұрын
The BBC did a wonderful live action TV adaptation in the 1980s which is far better than the Disney films. That’s because the Beeb has writers and directors who understand that lots of fancy CGI and editing just get in the way of telling a story.
@deliat7478
Жыл бұрын
I watched the movies where Alan was a puppet lion and the white witch was very camp and over the top (she was fantastic and I loved her). I also read all the books (the Boy and the Horse slaps btw). Basically I did watch these movies but they weren't formative like the other box set of four movies was. Also CS Lewis did Susan dirty at the end of the books. Like her whole family just gets to be together and happy EXCEPT her cuz she was... vain? Like come on that feels petty. My head cannon is that she lived shaping history on earth like the queen she was and got to be happily with her family in the end. That's always the thing I bring up when I talk about these series. I got way too into them for no reason when I was young lol.
@JanetDax
7 ай бұрын
Lewis commented on why Susan's story wasn't completed. I am surprised though that no one ever wrote a completion to Susan's arc. The phrase "Once a king or queen of Narnia, always a king or queen of narnia" begs for a redemption story for Susan. I'm thinking something to do with her children.
@Satanna.avemaria
8 ай бұрын
I should have enjoyed the lion the witch and the wardrobe, but I didn’t. Because, I held it up to the bbc series which is superior in my opinion. Even though the graphics aren’t up to par, but the whole series makes a wholesome watch over the Christmas period 🥰🎄🎄🎄
@wallygator92
2 күн бұрын
I find it kind of odd that Disney made Narnia movies because C. S. Lewis hated Disney.
@sashaking1115
Жыл бұрын
Great video! What is your opinion on the Voyage of the Dawn Treader book?
@simoncooper6752
5 күн бұрын
I saw all 3 films in my teens when they came out. The first one, I think, was the most faithful to the source material, though overall, I think they were trying too hard to be Lord of the Rings. The forced conflict in Prince Caspian was necessary and did nothing for the story. The voyage of the Dawn Treader was easily the worst, with hardly any resemblance to the book. They missed out some islands, and other islands they made the same place. Perhaps I'm biased, but having grown up with it, the BBC TV series was better in a lot of ways in terms of writing, acting and dialogue, even if the costumes and sets looked very obviously fake, overall, this series did a much better job at capturing the spirit of the books.
@Rosey0928
Ай бұрын
It’s just when you compare these movies to say Lord Of The Rings they just seem like generic fantasy movies and it’s depressing
@lukasmiller486
8 ай бұрын
Frankly I’m not fond of the second film either because 1. Peter comes across as immature and egotistical and challenges Caspian’s authority. In the book and first movie he was always the most serious and mature of the four children. 2. The Susan and Caspian romance just feels so out of place and thrown in for the heck of it. The first movie is excellent for all the reasons you state. The only thing I didn’t care for were the fox scenes replacing the witch turning the Christmas party into stone. They just felt so modernized. But still, they don’t hurt the first film that much.
@penelopepegg7834
10 ай бұрын
Shrek is incredibly well done though, and much more consistent than the Narnia films
@neetcoomer
3 ай бұрын
So Lewis tried to pull an Araki by changing the main JoJo of every part but couldn't do it as good as him? Got it
@Kiss_lynda
11 ай бұрын
I liked the cousin. He made it. But the first will always love the first one the most
@jenniedarling3710
22 күн бұрын
There have been two live action adaptations Disney who did three films and the BBC who did 4 series.
@carlintaylor2996
Жыл бұрын
Did a book report on the first book after reading it in 6th grade took us most of second semester to finish it went to see the first movie twice before Christmas of 2005 had the poster for it on my wall Will always defend these movies no matter how old i am I'd watch all three of these a million times over rather than most of the Disney live action remakes TBH the first movie has more love and effort put into it then most of live action Disney stuff today 😊😊❤
@bradfordwilson4742
4 ай бұрын
Maybe if they infused the plot lines of Voyage of the Dawn Treader and Silver Chair as a film in a creative way by a very talented director, the franchise may have lasted. 🤷♂️
@sailorearth2007
7 ай бұрын
I actually liked the trilogy and found the second one too war heavy…I get that is the plot but not my cup of tea There is also another version of the Dawn Treader by another company but I actually think Disney did a better job than they did As to Lucy I don’t think it is her wanting to be as pretty as Susan but that whole thing of standing apart from her instead of being compared to her…Lucy is growing up but wants to stand on her own not with people saying Susan this or Susan that…like Jan and Marsha in the Brady Bunch
@theblackcelt
7 ай бұрын
Narnia wasn't badly written. C.S. Lewis was an amazing writer and philosopher
@nochannelmusician769
7 ай бұрын
Did you watch the video? It’s about how the last movie was badly adapted, not the books
@cameronboushehri9423
17 күн бұрын
The first one was just fine, it was the sequels that ruined it.
@philipb7400
9 ай бұрын
Really great video
@milfenthusiast1582
Ай бұрын
The books are super short so it should be a series
@astridwikstrom9295
7 ай бұрын
funny enough "prince caspian" is actually my favorite movie of all time. it's not the best movie (that's the lord of the rgins triligoy) but it is my personal favorite.
@nicowasd123
2 ай бұрын
Another problem i see with the 3rd movie is that honestly, no one watched it. I was a child i'm from Latin America, the first 2 movies always playing on Disney and even on other channels where is the 3rd movie? Lol, i only watched the trailer XD i still didn't watch it, 0 marketing... if they had a better marketing strategy maybe with its flaws it could have been a monetary success and we could have another one 😂 seriously, no one aired that movie over here. Imagine selling an amazing story to another studio
@tomgu2285
Ай бұрын
I mean not realy it made over 400 mio dollars. I think. Or over 300 Mio. The budget of the movies was also much lower then from the first and second. It was a success. However they just couldn't adapt the books anymore. They had huge problems how to adapt the next books into the movies they just couldn't.
@Zorro_c.s.
10 ай бұрын
Short answer, bad writing.
@caesarchaves07
Жыл бұрын
Why narnia 3 is so trash! ? My god Disney you so bad
@jeremiahdansereau2950
11 ай бұрын
Disney Ditched the Narnia Franchise after Prince Caspian, VotDT was Made by 20th Century Fox
@beewayne5852
8 ай бұрын
Yeah Eustace killed my vibe so bad he was sooooo annoying
@nochannelmusician769
7 ай бұрын
@@beewayne5852Eustace is supposed to be an annoying vibe killer. That’s the point
@tomgu2285
Ай бұрын
The movie was good.
@Kleberei
11 ай бұрын
Yeah those three films were probably all they really could make. The horse and his boy is "a little" too racist, The magicians nephew is ... not that great, i mean ... magic rings and Jadis through the universe puddles in the woods or whatever..., The last battle ... donkey in a Aslan-costume? Really? The silver chair ... Maybe. But that would mean you'd have to introduce another new character (Jill) and Caspian would be 50 years older. So... I'm not sure there could have been a fourth movie. The three movies left out a lot of the boring stuff too (like looking for a y of an island, which felt like it was 30 pages long....).
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