KMT try not to screw everything up for 5 seconds challenge (Impossible)
@fargr5926
Жыл бұрын
You kidding. How could KMT screw up the situation? It couldn’t be worse any more, yet it kept on fighting until the end of ww2.
@the_ratmeister
Жыл бұрын
@@fargr5926 To list a few: - Starting the civil war with the communists in the first place, and then letting them escape to Shaanxi - Yellow river flood (I don't need to say much more) - Abandoning Nanjing - Sitting on their asses in 1942-43 only to get curbstomped by the Japanese in 1944 (again) - Engaging in a conventional war with a guerilla army
@cyborgchicken3502
Жыл бұрын
@@the_ratmeister got to admit, I give props to Generalissimo Chiang Kai Shek for defeating the Warlords and uniting China, but man he was an arrogant idiot during ww2 and in the Chinese Civil War
@the_ratmeister
Жыл бұрын
@@cyborgchicken3502 Except he didn't really defeat the warlords, the war showed that quite clearly. He got most of the warlords on a similar page, but they were still present.
@scarletcrusade77
Жыл бұрын
@@cyborgchicken3502 He didn't defeat them he just strong-armed most into joining him and defeated only 1 -2 cliques. He should have been replaced as leaders in the early 30's
@zainmudassir2964
Жыл бұрын
The Chinese Communist Revolution was one of most significant and consequential events in modern History.
@Heike--
Жыл бұрын
An utter disaster for the Chinese people. Their standard of living was better under the Japanese. Let that sink in: a brutal conqueror whose policy was "Kill all, burn all, loot all" was actually *better* for the people than communism.
@rttrttyan
Жыл бұрын
I agree. They were as important as the Nazis.
@yuanyuan4714
Жыл бұрын
@@rttrttyan you’re brainwashed.
@dalao2yang
Жыл бұрын
@@rttrttyan Nazis are losers. Chinese comiis win the whole thing. No comparison.
@zeflute4586
Жыл бұрын
@@rttrttyan Nazis were not that important TBH, they had little impact from ecnomical perspective. Yeah they launched a huge war and killed millions, but so did the Japanese.
@LolxdgamerZocker
Жыл бұрын
Still insane to me, he came out on top despite all odds.
@chizhang4369
Жыл бұрын
Because he was the greatest of all!
@bjorntheviking6039
Жыл бұрын
Greatest mass-murderer of all time.
@joshuaharvey8165
Жыл бұрын
@@chizhang4369 Mao Zedong was a hero
@victoneter
Жыл бұрын
@@chizhang4369 Really? Great leap forward?
@wuhaninstituteofvirology5226
Жыл бұрын
Because Japan saved the CCP.
@tomli9793
Жыл бұрын
The main force of the Kuomintang was wiped out in the Northeast and the North China Plain because of Chiang Kai shek's arrogance and the corruption of the army. When friendly forces were besieged, the Kuomintang generals chose not to rescue but to flee the battlefield to preserve their private army. This exposes that the national army is still a group composed of a group of warlords Thank you for 115 compliments. Glad everyone is so interested in China's civil war In addition, the failure of the Kuomintang was largely due to Chiang Kai shek's poor command. He always gave the wrong instructions at the wrong time to put his troops in a dangerous situation. He also appeared hesitant when it was necessary to make a decisive decision whether to withdraw or attack, which led to his loss of the main cities in the Northeast. On the other hand, the generals of the National Revolutionary Army are mostly composed of warlords who personally loyal to Chiang Kai shek during the period of melee warfare. These private armed forces, despite military assistance from various countries around the world, are equipped with advanced infantry equipment from various countries, even tanks and aircraft. However, the organizational form of these armies is still similar to the old feudal armies of the Qing Dynasty and the First Republic, and the sources of soldiers are very complex, ranging from forced omen farmers to rural bandits and hooligans, to students who participated in the revolution under the influence of Western democratic ideas and labor movements. The organization of the National Army is loose, and due to the corruption of the military, most of the time, these troops suffer from severe pay arrears. Soldiers can only rely on the supplies withheld by the military and sometimes rob local people for a living. Only the most elite Kuomintang troops can avoid these problems to some extent. And the Communist army had the same problems as other warlord forces in its early days. However, after Mao Zedong launched the "rectification movement" within the Communist Party, these issues were completely resolved. Western media summarized the movement as a dictatorial action by Mao Zedong to use his personal prestige to eliminate dissent, which was not comprehensive. This movement has completely revolutionized the Red Army in terms of organization and morale. They have established the Party organization at the company level and appointed political commissioners to each unit. Political commissioners are not the military supervision teams that only shoot their own soldiers, as claimed by Western media. They are more responsible for political education and rectifying military discipline. They even teach soldiers to read, write, and understand maps. In the Communist army, there is a term called "military democracy", which proposes to involve every grass-roots soldier in the discussion of combat operations. For officers who do not respect the human rights of soldiers, they establish a soldier committee to report bullying in the army. All this has made the Communist army the only modern army in China, with morale comparable to that of the European army, despite their extreme lack of weapons and equipment compared to their enemies. This led the Communist Party to always be able to survive every encirclement and suppression by the Kuomintang and, as they grew stronger, to defeat Kuomintang forces several times their own and ultimately rule China. It is difficult for us to connect today's CPC with that of the past
@mastermirror3888
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Battles around Xuzhou in 1948 precisely demonstrated that why KMT forces failed against an army that was much weaker and smaller.
@Tupadre97
Жыл бұрын
Excellent pfp become fire punch
@tomli9793
Жыл бұрын
@@Tupadre97 Hi, I'm agene, And i love my sister
@stoneruler
Жыл бұрын
Source : Chinese communist propoganda
@altaparis
Жыл бұрын
What's the difference between rescuing and fleeing? Sorry, I'm not an English speaker.
@SpeculativeConjecture
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure this was never originally a 8 part series, but im all for it
@korakys
Жыл бұрын
Originally 3 parts, then 6, now 8. I'm not convinced it wont go to 9 parts (part 8 covering Mao's rule, part 9 covering Deng, Jiang, and Hu).
@korakys
Жыл бұрын
Welp, the Mao-Deng transition got its own part; 10 parts now, lol.
@dmitarobradovic2551
Жыл бұрын
You know that it will be a good day when Jabzy posts a new video.
@balabanasireti
Жыл бұрын
Cringe
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
Жыл бұрын
@@balabanasireti You are.
@taWay21
Жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see jabzy, I click like.
@balabanasireti
Жыл бұрын
What an unoriginal comment 😂
@emperorshowa8842
8 ай бұрын
Turned many in China against him. Hence when the Communists arrived many defected. He had long-standing relations with Japan, and Chiang Kai-shek even taught military studies in Japan
@jackoofman2560
Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite history channels on KZitem
@Jesse_Dawg
Жыл бұрын
Please MORE of this series. Please don't stop at 8. Please make it like 500 series. This is my favorite series from you by far. Keep it up please
@JXSMS
2 ай бұрын
By far the most detailed video on this topic on KZitem! So informative. You're doing a great job. Keep going!
@kensearle4451
Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to watch this new one - you still reviving the Stuff I find Interesting, Jabzy?
@JohnDoe-bh2lp
Жыл бұрын
Tigray's genocidal and evil
@alanxu1238
Жыл бұрын
KMT had really serious internal problems, KMT lost the war with a troop that is four times the army of CCP’s and half of their army turns their back on them. That is where you now they messed up.
@NightPhoenix.Y
Жыл бұрын
Well KMT massacred the new fourth army in the south when both communists and nationalists had a treaty cease fire to fight the Japanese. Chiang also started the war with the communists in the first place
@tinteoffnen
7 ай бұрын
@@NightPhoenix.Y共產黨根本沒有抗日!
@Spanner249
Жыл бұрын
Brutal history lesson.
@alehaim
Жыл бұрын
When it comes to Manchuria's industry, you failed to mention that the Soviets had stolen a lot of it, leaving the cities kind of worthless for the KMT who got to occupy them in many ways. instead of being able to take advantage of their industries and produce guns and such locally, they had to transport them from the war torn cities of East and South China
@kevinchang6979
Жыл бұрын
While the Soviets did forcibly take a lot of Manchurian industry, the KMT did not occupy Manchuria in any large parts as the territory was quickly given to the Communists. I think that KMT territory was at the southern border of Manchuria.
@scarletcrusade77
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinchang6979 Also worth noting most of the Japanese Kwangtung army was defeated and taken as POWs left a lot of equipment to give to the communists giving them an advantage
@noahpeng1689
Жыл бұрын
The three most powerful forces in the world in the 20th century, the German Nazis, Soviet Communism, and American liberalism all supported the Kuomintang. The Kuomintang still cannot defeat the Communist Party. A century of rotten party.
@powergrassp7769
4 ай бұрын
But the KMT was driven to Taiwan, and the KMT's fighting capacity was low😅
@JoeSmith-gj8be
Жыл бұрын
Hey, I like your videos. Would you mind listing your sources in the description so we can read about it too?
@8-bitstream379
Жыл бұрын
That would be like 30 pages of links alone
@Notimportant253
Жыл бұрын
@@8-bitstream379 could link to a google doc with all his sources
@Jesse_Dawg
Жыл бұрын
Please more episodes in this series. This is my favorite series you've ever made
@jw1731
Жыл бұрын
23:45 this picture of the CPV soldier is from the cover art of DML’s scale model Korean War Chinese soldier set. I bought one as a kid in 1998.
@HarvestStore
Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@chizhang4369
Жыл бұрын
Glad that you mentioned those fighters in Northeastern China! And yes, although many of them are communists, many other of them are indeed mere bandits who also fight against Japanese and many of them were indeed Koreans. The fact that many of them were not communists but in fact bandits who just fight alongside communists were probably a big reason why many of them defect and surrendered to Japanese. Many leaders of the army, such as Yang Jingyu and Zhao Shangzhi, were essentially killed by traitors. Surrendering to Japanese was so often that the most vile insults those fighters used were “you fucking traitor” instead of some more common ones
@tomli9793
Жыл бұрын
@光荣属于中华 为了反对旧社会你把旧社会的旧社会当做头像
@xinel4576
Жыл бұрын
I love this channel
@stoneruler
Жыл бұрын
Ok you really exaggerated Daili's importance. He definitely did not have enough influence to stop US aid to nationalist China. Chiang's biggest mistake was overextending his army into the north east region (Manchuria) of China. It was far from his power base, and bogged down his army. While the CCP had support from neighbouring North Korea and USSR. It was an unfavourable battlefield for the KMT.
@zorro4266
Жыл бұрын
你是对的。
@timwong8935
Жыл бұрын
Japan left all their industrial power base there, they really built Manchuria as new Japan. they treated that area as part of their homeland almost, so had Jiang simply just let them take it, within a few years the communists will have better industrial output than him. Its a lose lose situation for him, but more importantly his generals' incompetence along with lack of support from the local population doomed the KMT. At the time Stalin wanted a divided China, so he tried to balance out both sides so no one can completely dominate, but he didn't expect the US to not back up the KMT, thus allowing communists to completely steamroll KMT in Manchuria. Another thing to consider is its the geography of China, North and West are higher elevation, compare to South and East, so as the war progressed, KMT faced literal uphill battles where Communists often had higher grounds. It's so challenging to fight up north which is why Jiang himself shifted the Japanese forces to Shanghai from Beijing in 1938. Trading space for time he was able to halt Japanese forces using higher elevations of western China to his advantage. Had he tried to take on Japan like how he did during the later civil war, he would have almost certainly lost.
@stoneruler
Жыл бұрын
@@timwong8935 well I disagree with some parts. Kmt generals were not as bad as you say. Early campaigns saw Kmt win most large battles. It’s just that they didn’t have enough supplies to carry on. Also the whole economic situation just crumbled in Kmt bases.
@tomli9793
Жыл бұрын
@@timwong8935 American aid only stopped after the Kuomintang lost the Northeast
@JeffSmith-yk1xb
Жыл бұрын
@@timwong8935 ,actually, US helped transport Jiang s army from south to northeast, Russian secretly changed its neutral position
@lunarmodule6419
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting thank you
@concept5631
Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt wanting to hand French Indochina over to China is probably the worst thing he could've suggested in that situation.
@bjorntheviking6039
Жыл бұрын
A very FDR-tier thing to do, then. We seriously lucked out that he was a sickly cripple and died when he did.
@Alex-pj8nz
Жыл бұрын
Considering what happen next it was a good idea but the French got it back which led to the Vietnam war.
@concept5631
Жыл бұрын
@@Alex-pj8nz Vietnam was always gonna end up in a lose-lose situation
@KaiserMattTygore927
Жыл бұрын
Any situation that didn't involve "allow Vietnam indepedence" was a bad option.
@concept5631
Жыл бұрын
@@KaiserMattTygore927 Correct
@thatsnodildo1974
Жыл бұрын
Nationalist forces be like "how did we lose??? All we did was loot and murder our own country men"
@Rannos22
8 ай бұрын
So did the communists
@theactingace
Жыл бұрын
Mao did some trolling
@scarletcrusade77
Жыл бұрын
Especially asking people to give honest critiques of the ccp then promptly killing them all after promising they wouldn't punish them. Biggest snake moment
@WriteInAaronBushnell
Жыл бұрын
@25:00 ....what? The people didn't take up arms to defend the landlords😮😮😮😮
@tomli9793
Жыл бұрын
…What?The American people have not taken up arms to defend their bankers?😱
@lonelychameleon3595
Жыл бұрын
Seems like Mao didn't need to do much except watch the KMT turn everyone against them
@CannibaLouiST
Жыл бұрын
He needs Soviet aid - lots of them
@ErikHare
Жыл бұрын
Would you like to have Chinese subtitles available?
@Churrb
Жыл бұрын
YES, I NEED THIS
@FF-le3ps
Жыл бұрын
Love your vids. Will you do a video on the history of the muslim world from the 1700s
@Dedog0
Жыл бұрын
Good video! I think, especially towards the end, it could have used some more editing, as you repeated some phrases, and didn't redo a take when you mispronounced something and went back to say it again. Also at the beginning it felt like the map was kind of out of sync with the voice over? Other than that really good work! I am excited to compare this to other documentaries on the topic!
@JabzyJoe
Жыл бұрын
Hey man - can you let me know when that happens so I can remove it?
@Dedog0
Жыл бұрын
@@JabzyJoe Oh yeah for sure, I'll take a look again tomorrow :)
@Dedog0
Жыл бұрын
@@JabzyJoe Sorry, I can't find it anymore. But I also gotta say, I saw the Princeton Chinese Politics course after this here on youtube, and that just confirmed how good your research is! Well done!
@lvetg8928
Жыл бұрын
@@JabzyJoe 31:33
@Iris-gr1rn
Жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a kmt lieutenant colonel who went to Taiwan and waited to come back to China his whole life after the communists killed his family because they were land owners. Pretty sure he hated the kmt at the end because they were so hopeless.
@kongqiyiwang
11 ай бұрын
好杀,地主该死光光了😂
@kingdaymon6433
9 ай бұрын
I wonder how many people needlessly died or lost everything because of the KMTs ineptitude
@Iris-gr1rn
9 ай бұрын
@@kingdaymon6433 not nearly as many as the ccp murdered
@Iris-gr1rn
9 ай бұрын
你支持他們,因為你很窮。農民男孩@@kongqiyiwang
@kongqiyiwang
9 ай бұрын
@@Iris-gr1rn 我是学生😂,农民反抗暴政永远是对的
@geometrytestament2024
Жыл бұрын
As a chinese myself, I would like to bring an vital point of how communist win the civil war: ECONOMY. China was like 95 percent farmer and only 3 percent worker. There is no industry and only produce are agriculture sector. And KMT’s big 4 family signed comprador treaties to let foreign goods flow into China with minimum import tax, which kills any domestic industry. And because KMT’s 51% tax are from import tax, that means they are willing to follow the interests of foreign colonizer on market control. This is important there was no industrialization and every industrial goods like machine or medicine are imported. So the economy model at that time was comprador/ landlords who sell out farmer's surplus to trade industrial goods from imperialists. basically the loop : imperialists exploit local comprador, and local comprador exploit landlord, and land lord exploit peasants. Therefore that’s how Maozedong's thought deviated from western marxism. Since there is no industry set in China, and only labor and resources are taken by colonizers. Therefore knocking down capitalism doesn't provide industrialization. Therefore, Mao’s policy is essentially is to use the surplus of the farmer to create the domestic industries and working class first. One prominent example is Mao's method of giving land to peasants. Which angered other communist colleges who studied in soviet and followed a “orthodontic marxism”. They criticize Mao for “capitalizing the farmers”. (btw, he changed conscript policy to volunteer red army policy. but red army still quadrupled under him, because now farmers are defending their own property). Mao rooted deep in villages and encircle the city from village, and since all raw material and veggie/ grain/food in the city comes from village, Just like how US weaponize the patro dollar, Mao able to weaponize the all village production by anchor the CPC currency to village productions exchanged in villages. compared with KMT's inflating bills (they actually have a 6 million paper money, and it can only buy one carrot). In the KMT's later age in mainland, even KMT have to store CPC's soviet currency if they want to buy foods. and by then, CPC can print money to manipulate KMT's city economy. Also Mao welcomed cooperation with domestic patratoit industry capitalist if CPC was able to constrain them. Which got him criticized by other communists as a right winger and almost got expelled from the party three times in the early age of CPC. But later, those capitalists quickly got into CPC's industry and even able to export the products for goods (like medicine/weapons) that blockade by KMT. there are even KMT officials/ capitalist who want to start their own company defect to communist because KMT’s import policy kills all domestic industry. It is very rare for a communist got support from all the classes
Hello on the last video I said a KMT Muslim general was buried on my mosques burial plot the individual was General Tung Ching Ma the whole family is buried there actually
@netizencapet
Жыл бұрын
Just wonderful drawings.
@diegodlv1001
Жыл бұрын
The "poor management of the economy" by the kmt refers to their policy of opium production i assume?
@luffy101311
Жыл бұрын
Wake up babe, new Jabzy just dropped
@TrickiVicBB71
Жыл бұрын
28ish minute mark. That's one way to deal with the war on drugs
@joeshmoe8345
Жыл бұрын
Cool thanks
@caseclosed9342
Жыл бұрын
03:54 So this is how Eugene Sledge ended up becoming a China Marine…
@19MAD95
Жыл бұрын
It would be cool if you did the like of Deng Xiaoping.
@BoneLord303
Жыл бұрын
those "serious blunders" he keeps mentioning the nationalists did are just to be expected from a group such as the KMT
@Razzle_Dazzle-
6 ай бұрын
13:30 Damn, the KMT was so incompetent that they almost created another civil war front in Taiwan
@user-qg2di3vv3d
Жыл бұрын
If you want to chase that red star, go east.Across the Dnieper River, over the Ural Mountains, at the end of the Siberian plain, still burning.
@unifieddynasty
Жыл бұрын
The war was the ROC's to lose. They had nearly every advantage except popularity among the peasantry.
@user-mp8pr8kn2h
Жыл бұрын
为什么西藏地图标色和中国其他地方不一样?Why is the map color of Tibet different from that of other places in China?
@CannibaLouiST
Жыл бұрын
點解要一樣?
@cart172
Жыл бұрын
@@CannibaLouiST Because it's one country as recognised by the UN, duh.
@CannibaLouiST
Жыл бұрын
@@cart172 well the UN doesn't run this channel.
@zhenzhai1574
29 күн бұрын
@@cart172 It isn't, do your fact check. It claimed to be a country for 40 years after Qing Dynasty collapsed but 0 country recognize it.
@wuhaninstituteofvirology5226
Жыл бұрын
It would have been better if you showed Tuva as well, so that everyone could see the Soviet Russia's plans at that time.
@HW-sw5gb
Жыл бұрын
Tuva was annexed in 1944
@FlyingRazzo
Жыл бұрын
I didn't know that KMT have been so brutal in Taiwan...
@tomli9793
Жыл бұрын
They have always been like this. Do you think the Chinese people do not support Chiang Kai shek because they prefer to be killed during the Cultural Revolution?
@brunokagawa6287
Жыл бұрын
That's because the Western propaganda machine won't allow that to reach headlines.
@patrickblanchette4337
Жыл бұрын
25:47 On boy, that sure sounds like a witch hunt to me😕!
@user-st5cm2if8r
Жыл бұрын
当做是冷战时期发生在中国的麦卡锡主义就好了。就是政治迫害。
@dxelson
Жыл бұрын
man there should be more English language Chinese civil war movies
@twoforcesinbalance1543
Жыл бұрын
"Mao had therefore defeated the landlords, businesses, warlords, and most serious opposition in China" Damn, think he could come back for like a week?
@saikou1490
Жыл бұрын
ill pass on the famine part tho.
@twoforcesinbalance1543
Жыл бұрын
@@saikou1490 i like food too but that's why he's only allowed for a week just to spook people a lil bit
@cyborgchicken3502
Жыл бұрын
@@twoforcesinbalance1543 I'm not too keen on another Cultural Revolution either...
@DarkBoy-zd8qz
Жыл бұрын
@@saikou1490there would be always pros and corn but what is important is what surpasses higher
@leileijoker8465
Жыл бұрын
And you my guailow friend will be put on a struggle session too.
@firemangan
Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt be like: They’re called Indochina so they must be Chinese 🤓
@linik70
11 ай бұрын
Historia de pesadelo😢😢😢😢. Kmt no inicio cassou o poder dos senhores de guerra. Desentralizados que dava algum balanço de poder entre as parte em brigas internas isso abriu espaco para japoneses e comunistas.
@anyoneattheendoftime4932
Жыл бұрын
9:10 "Appointing Dai Li to the the head of police" - Wait, what?
@Savke100
10 ай бұрын
Dude really used McArthur quote. Dude was bloodlust anti-communist lunatic.
@afonsopereira2703
Жыл бұрын
As Portuguese, I tell you in this video you are wrong: kzitem.info/news/bejne/z4SCtHiGoJqFh20 Yes, we use Grandola Vila Morena as a sinal to prepare the revolution and E Depois do Adeus to start it, but that happened on the night of 24th April 1974, and not during the Eurovision! Actually the Eurovisions's final happened on 6th April 1974, so even the music used in the revolution was the same, the time that happen is complete different!
@felixmbandandayitabi4536
Жыл бұрын
The limit of this expose is its lack of political analysis.
@barryirlandi4217
Жыл бұрын
Wow.. That's depressing
@user-zu4nl7bm9e
Жыл бұрын
And druing Liberty war, most of KMT army was not wiped out, nearly half of them revolted theirs officer, then joined the CCP army to fight against the evil KMT. They were promised to have theirs own farmland, then soldiers have reason to fight on, to protect their farmland, simple reason, simple motivation, simple result.
@fritzbasset8645
Жыл бұрын
And then in the Korean War they were the shock troops that Peng Dehuai ordered against the Americans in the suicide attacks near the Yalu River/Chosen Reservoir. That's where the 1 million casualties suffered by the People's Forced Army came from in that war. Before you freak out: I have a degree in Asian history; my wife is from Shenyang and my father-in-law is a retired Party member living in my house in the US. Always remember that the "evil" KMT achieved a more perfect democracy on Taiwan than in the US with the work done by Jiang Jieshi's son CCK and Lee Teng-hui; China has a poor man's Mao in Xi Jinping. Someday mainland Chinese will realize that Mao is in the same category as Stalin, Lenin, Mussolini and Hitler.
@user-st5cm2if8r
Жыл бұрын
@@fritzbasset8645 看看这家伙的甲叠的多厚啊,很难不想像他是不是1450。但是美国历史学家约瑟夫谷尔等的the untold story of the war里的数据怎么和你如此不同,不会是这位德高望重的先生编的吧?我觉得不可能,可是他如果没有撒谎的话,你就在撒谎了。
@youwayo
11 ай бұрын
20:01
@vinniepeterss
17 күн бұрын
❤❤
@scarletcrusade77
Жыл бұрын
Would it not have made sense for the allies to pour support into the KMT post surrender of Japan and help chiang win the civil war? Seems like china turning communist led to major headaches later on in the Cold War onwards
@insertobject4002
Жыл бұрын
hindsight is a luxury reserved only for people in the future
@HolyShitNew
Жыл бұрын
@@insertobject4002we now know that it would have goos but why didnt they know this back than? sounds important if a big country like china might have communist influence or not
@drumagus2258
Жыл бұрын
then who would have made all our stuff?
@vorynrosethorn903
Жыл бұрын
Recent historians talk a great deal about communist infiltration of the US state department when looking at this, there was a sea change in thought after Chinese documents and sources finally started getting translated into English and the severe unreliability of most English sources came to light. In short there was a great deal of campaigning on mao's behalf by people within the American camp and they certainly weren't above fabricating information and lieing through their teeth.
@trebuh
Жыл бұрын
That would have the preqeusite of an ounce of competence on the KMT side in terms of governance and fighting ablilty.
Chiang was a complicate person, with some wierd sense of honor, many of his screw-ups During both sino-japanese war and the civil war were done with full awareness of the advantages for the alternative. Arrogance and stubbornness was kind of his charm as well as his downfall. He even had a shot During the great leap forward except the US intervened because they didn't want more instability and they didn't want to povoke the USSR. But I do believe China would be at a better place today under KMT. But the USSR just has way more influence on China than the western.
World tells Mao: Make peace with the fascists. Mao: THE LAND YOUR CLASS HAS STOLEN BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE. PREPARE TO BE EXILED TO AN ISLAND.
@thewestisthebest6608
Жыл бұрын
I assumed they did it
@alfred-vz8ti
Жыл бұрын
he came to power by not being jiang, by being an active champion of the poorest people, by attacking japanese instead of chinese, by having a vision of a better society, the usa tried to stamp him out, which is a measure of usa, wholly owned by the rich, and rabid about socialism. this was a mixed blessing for jiang, all the guns he needed, but a stamp on his forehead, saying 'foreigner's lapdog.'
@mappingshaman5280
Жыл бұрын
"Attacking Japanese instead of Chinese." Lmfao did you not watch the previous video in this series? Even during the sino Japanese war there were clashes between the communists and kmt. And if that wasn't enough mao later thanked the Japanese, saying if they hadn't invaded he wouldn't have won the civil war.
@hiyukelavie2396
Жыл бұрын
@@mappingshaman5280 Tbf, Jiang JieShi and the KMT started it with the Shanghai Massacre, where they brutally suppressed the CPC and the Chinese left in Shanghai The subsequent communist witch hunt, known as the white terror, saw more than a million people losing their lives
@aroonsubway2079
Жыл бұрын
@@mappingshaman5280 You mentioned "clashes between the communists and kmt", but it cannot prove it was communists who initiated attacks on KMT. You mentioned "mao later thanked the Japanese", but it actually means nothing,because it's pretty much a satire.
@fremiloant1186
Жыл бұрын
@@aroonsubway2079 doesnt change the fact that chiang spent zillions on fighting the communists while the Japanese ate up more and more of china and only began fighting them on the last possible moment lest his whole reign collapsed When mao thanked the Japanese or whatever, he did because they finally pushed far enough was the landlord puppets in the kmt that they finally laid down the weights against them, fraternal chinese and started laying their efforts to combat chinas enemy.
@BBunny_CA
Жыл бұрын
@@mappingshaman5280 There are just uneducated kids that do not understand satire and sarcasm.
@concept5631
Жыл бұрын
129 views in 6 minutes
@concept5631
Жыл бұрын
20 likes
@discordiancommunism
Жыл бұрын
The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of plane crashes
@royc635
Жыл бұрын
You said no public movement after 60s , But culture rev is a millions people's public movement 😢. It even almost started a civil war in china. It failed at the end, but achievement were great. Privileges was greatly weakened, workers allow to set production plan by themself. Before70s, most education and healtheth sources were in the city, city-countryside gap was huge. But it became smaller in 70s. People's commue failed in 60s, but success in 70s.
@JXSMS
2 ай бұрын
That sounds dubious. Not sure if the Cultural Revolution helped much in bridging the city-countryside gap.
@sleepyjoe7518
Жыл бұрын
Could you please recommend books for this topic?
@mattluck2826
Жыл бұрын
Common Mao W
@flutee6162
Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, China time
@emperorshowa8842
Жыл бұрын
9:05 my question is Why allying with the Japanese generals is just one of Chiang Kai-shek's mistakes?
@JabzyJoe
Жыл бұрын
Turned many in China against him. Hence when the Communists arrived many defected.
@emperorshowa8842
Жыл бұрын
@@JabzyJoe He wanted to recruit Japanese military experts to fight the Communist Party.
@emperorshowa8842
Жыл бұрын
@@JabzyJoe I ask you a question, what if the alliance with the Japanese generals is beneficial to the Chinese anti-communist regime?
@yoloi2470
Жыл бұрын
@@emperorshowa8842 the kmt relation with the japanese wasnt that bad initially. But due to the backfire of the pan asian movement the japanese wanted to influence china to join them in the fight against the west. But China of course denied this and dispute over influence within the mainland which initiate the sino - japanese war.
@emperorshowa8842
Жыл бұрын
@@yoloi2470 The Kuomintang did not have a military force, as some believe, because the reason for Japan's surrender in World War II was the Soviet invasion of Manchuria in 1945. The West was at war with each other, and whether you knew it or not, a Japanese invasion of China was a very bad idea.
@georgekostaras
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I got a chuckle out of what Mao did to the landlords
@_marlene
7 ай бұрын
Lol this one went so sideways at the end. Bye
@alexlo7708
Жыл бұрын
Infrastructure were ruined down by the war. Poverty spread all over. US has not any policy help China re construct it's infra structure such Marshall plan in Europe after war. Many big guys in KMT horded essential goods making profit fuel more struggling among people. The CCP which was boost up by Japan weapons warehouse which Soviet had left to them. Add up with furious of people on failure of KMT in economics restructuring. Finally the KMT was losed to CCP. In conclusion , American who stupid used Japan as a tool to reshuffle table of European power in eastern Asia had unintentionally help CCP to power in China. The Japan start invaded China after US govt pledged to support them all logistic materials and fuel oil in the war.
@johnwick9273
10 ай бұрын
The biggest reason why the Communist Party was able to take power was that China was an agricultural country at that time, but the peasants did not have land. The Communist Party redistributed the land and let them get the land.
@alexlo7708
10 ай бұрын
@@johnwick9273 You are white , so you are shallow in knowing China. Lands in China are different in their location. Land on west northern part is lack of organic sediment while land on the southward is fertile. So the majority of farmers in the South have their own land because the land can feed their families. That's why farmers in the south resisted the commune rice paddy policy of Mao Ze Dong. So the CCP started its fortune after the American govt pledged to support Japan in opening war with China.
@alex88271
27 күн бұрын
By spying
@tomtomtrent
Жыл бұрын
Damn, this was some brutal stuff. But then again, so is a lot of Chinese history, and the CCP isn’t even close to having a monopoly on historical brutality
@cart172
Жыл бұрын
Wait til you hear what the British Empire did around the world.
@alessioskomneos655
Жыл бұрын
Hah no Chinese saw CPC as brutal dictator but those westoid do, they try everything from embargo to color revolution to turn Chinese against CPC but to no avail, they too coward to start a war even back then when China is piss poor never mind now when China is rich and prosperous under CPC. It's just funny to see your enemies that try to kill and plunder you have concern over CPC that pull China out of centuries of humiliation
@ansonang7810
Жыл бұрын
RP corruption, communist manifesto in Mandarin and Russian. Support from rural region.
@jxmai7687
Жыл бұрын
张灵甫: "不是国军无能,而是共军太狡猾!”🤣🤣🤣
@therearenoshortcuts9868
Жыл бұрын
nah it's just 国军无能 LOL
@hunggiang1475
29 күн бұрын
Easy to control the uneducated.
@Magicrabbit76
11 ай бұрын
0:53, US offered Chiang to send troops to occupy those islands, and Chiang refused. Brush up your historical knowledge a bit, would you?
@tl2245
Жыл бұрын
It's a easy question. Because all the people support CPC.
@user10u7
11 ай бұрын
Mao might not be a perfect leader but he stopped all the warlords and unite the country. Now the CCP is super centralized government
@lazynow1
7 ай бұрын
Mao was a criminal
@eastern2western
Жыл бұрын
The major reason was ww2 allowed the communist grew and the hyper inflation afterwards.
@leeming2781
Жыл бұрын
What do you know? The main reason is the corruption of the Kuomintang government and the lack of food for the people at the bottom. Landlords invaded a lot of land, and the corruption of the Kuomintang government made the people unable to live. So the army of the Communist Party fights voluntarily, they come from the bottom of the peopl
@leeming2781
Жыл бұрын
If someone else took your land, and government officials oppressed you, and you couldn't even eat food, would you take up arms and resist?
@jarrodyuki7081
4 ай бұрын
ccp vs kmt.
@kianvandenberg6364
10 ай бұрын
If only the Americans had helped the KMT
@StevenZJ
8 ай бұрын
They had, but KMT was way too corrupted and incompetent.
@truthaboveall7988
Жыл бұрын
America is never a helper I love it that u think otherwise
@vvpp8992
Жыл бұрын
Have to reminder that the Manchuria (north east China today) was a independent country stands with Japan though not widely recognised than later occupied by Soviet. Itself alone has the best industrial capability on the Asian continent that can massively produce shells and aircrafts, while Kuomintang can't even build a truck without western parts. Soviets gave Manchu and weapons to CCP. Then after US ended supporting Kuomintang in 48, they became fish in barrel.
@vvpp8992
Жыл бұрын
CCP's troop by then were quite Sovietlised. After civil war its number of artillery divisions owned reached a staggering number of more than 100. Which was the largest in the world. In many memoirs from warlords and Kuomintang officers, heavy artilleries made any type of defence paper thin...
@bobjones2959
Жыл бұрын
It was never independent, it "stood with Japan" because it was a Japanese puppet state and the nominal leader, former Qing emperor Puyi had no real power in the government, which was de facto run by IJA officials. It also wasn't called Manchuria at the time, it was Manchukuo. Its industrial capacity was fueled by slave workers, mostly drafted from Chinese civilian populations.
@jxmai7687
Жыл бұрын
Keyboard war has started in the comment section. 🤣🤣🤣
@chuckruckus3648
Жыл бұрын
How? Chinese Democrats is how
@leningradcowboy2953
8 ай бұрын
Based mao purging the landlords
@jarrodyuki7081
4 ай бұрын
youtubue adn facoebook still hold the axes over head i cant even anaytghin remottely hatefuly or fascist withotu riskgin losign my acount!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@samwill7259
Жыл бұрын
Taiwan ended up fantastic in the modern day. Free, modern, democratic. But honestly, if the Kuomintang had won, would that still be true? The KMT didn't seem too much more democratic during the fact, only afterwards. I'm not defending the CCP, far from it, I'm just saying, maybe a free Taiwan was our best outcome.
@otten5666
Жыл бұрын
It is a pretty big what if but I'd say that the reason Taiwan embraced democracy after being very authoritarian is that they, just like Japan and South Korea, saw the free market really is the best way to produce wealth. It is not a coincidence that South Korea, Japan and Taiwan all followed more or less the same steps to where they are today.
@samwill7259
Жыл бұрын
@@otten5666 And, like most other democratic movements, it reached a point where the people got mad as hell and decided they weren't going to take it anymore
Historically, "right-wing" authoritarian governments have a greater tendancy to peacefully transition to democratic systems over time, Franco's Spain as opposed to Castro's Cuba. But China has a very deeply ingrained authoritarian bent because of it's geography and great population, so I'm not sure there would be sufficient incentive for a mainland RoC government to become democratic.
@wingkeungkong415
Жыл бұрын
I think Taiwan will become Ukraine in Asia If the Taiwan people do not wake up
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