The rules changes for Dev wounds also improved norn emisary durability since its innate 4+++ vs mortals now apply to dev wounds as well
@TeamRedWolf
3 ай бұрын
Really? I was wondering when they would update that rule
@goddog8739
3 ай бұрын
Where did they make that change?
@martinobispo8724
3 ай бұрын
@@goddog8739 Its on rules commentary PDF, page 7, under Dev Wounds section
@JasonM69
3 ай бұрын
I expected the Neurolictor to be a synapse creature at first. I was surprised when it wasn't.
@BreakerBeat
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, it was really weird that it wasn't, but at the same time Synapse mattered so little no one cared. Now that Synapse is a +1S in melee and -1 Ld for enemies, getting Synapse on the NL is actually quite nice.
@auspextactics
3 ай бұрын
Same here!
@tiberiumnp8030
3 ай бұрын
Same! Was the only brain bug without synapse.
@keithmiller6713
3 ай бұрын
The broodlord not being synapse never made any sense
@Trazynn
3 ай бұрын
Or neurogants...
@whoeveriam0iam14222
3 ай бұрын
Tyranids are my favorite faction aesthetically
@iandick1364
3 ай бұрын
Too bad they're usually vanilla on the table in most editions. They have so many options and cool tools, but in most editions, almost none of it gets used.
@thomasboudreau4246
3 ай бұрын
Started them as my first army because I love the look and I love my lovecraftian horror from beyond the stars.... started space marines as my second army because I needed something simpler to really learn how to play better lol
@yamato9753
3 ай бұрын
I personally love their detachements. Their motivation is also quite understandable. They just hangry lil' guys 0:)
@tomekk.1889
3 ай бұрын
Thousand sons for me. Some armies just look 10x better to some people haha
@Birdmanesp92
3 ай бұрын
Vanguard might be able to punch up now
@zouloslecoolos
3 ай бұрын
You didn't mention that now the swarmlord has the lord of deceit ability that grants a 12" aura that adds 1cp to the ennemy stratagems around him, which could be huge
@natefxpro2973
3 ай бұрын
yes that needs to be noted for sure its super nice to have
@Snaek1
3 ай бұрын
such a huge buff from the very situational ability it was before. nids eating good this update :D
@carysage
3 ай бұрын
My lovely Raveners finally got Vanguard!! Could not believe the 3 worm bio-forms didn't get that from the start!
@samuelharmssambamsjm269
3 ай бұрын
Broodlords getting Synapse back is great, particularly in light of the +1 strength. Pleased to see hive tyrants can get up to S10. That was a major criticism of mine when it came to them!
@thomasace2547
3 ай бұрын
Honestly feels,like these changes should have been there at the start of 10th Honestly baffles me who writes the Nids rules
@bugmanzgaming9054
3 ай бұрын
Robbin Crudacce writes them, and he is known for hating them, so.... yeah. At least we got fixed proper.
@Klierowski
3 ай бұрын
Same idiot who writes codex marines.
@Proto1Dude
3 ай бұрын
@@bugmanzgaming9054 He's not know as "Cruddy Cruddace" for nothing
@NecroGoblin-yl2fx
3 ай бұрын
@@bugmanzgaming9054 GW should not have one who hates a faction write that faction. it will be rushed and made half.
@johnj.spurgin7037
3 ай бұрын
Probably the same crew that did Custodes and GSC and edition start DG. Feels like half the writers at GW are incompetent. At least half their team can put out decent stuff.
@diarmuid4191
3 ай бұрын
I’m thinking about starting 40k and I’m really liking the look of the Tryranid models
@91elpiris
3 ай бұрын
it would be a perfect time to jump in. We suddenly look like way more fun to play army.
@Indigo_Indignation
3 ай бұрын
Considering 10th edition focused a lot on refreshing the 'nid range, I highly recommend it! For the Great Devourer!
@JonBoy79
3 ай бұрын
It seems like no one has noticed that the two hierodule variants both got shoved into legends yesterday.
@TeamRedWolf
3 ай бұрын
I was under the impression they been there since beginning of 10th
@JonBoy79
3 ай бұрын
@TeamRedWolf Nah, had one in my Crusher Stampede list in the Warhammer app. Then it vanished with the update.
@TeamRedWolf
3 ай бұрын
@@JonBoy79 oh damn and I sold mines thinking they were. It's cool I'm liking the emissary more anyway
@rain6353
3 ай бұрын
Emissary is gorgeous. Wasn’t a fan of many FW nids except the malanthrope and rippers.
@TeamRedWolf
3 ай бұрын
@@rain6353 gorgeous enough I had to buy 3 lol
@PBspartanPAGE
3 ай бұрын
I see the +2OC in crusher stampede as a bait for damaging your monsters so they can actually use their detachment ability
@ernstbergerbrent
3 ай бұрын
I love it. My norns are a little more usable with the +1S and dev wounds defense and i already run zoanthropes and neurotyrant
@jimmicuss2667
3 ай бұрын
Had my first game with crusher stampede upgrades yesterday. They are awesome folks. The OC buff earned me 10 VP over the course of the game and my opponent's desire to reduce that led to a lot of injured monsters with +1TH and +1TW mid to late game. I misread the move through buildings strat and thought i could't move through anything higher than 4" so i wasn't even playing all of the strengths of the detachment.
@RavagerZero
3 ай бұрын
That's exactly how I thought the Crusher buff would work out: Old meta of focusing down a bug at a time makes you lose out on some critical VP now. But removing the bonus VP by chip damage only makes the bugs mad. That said, it does help play into the lore of this detachment by forcing opposing players to make that choice now. Also, have you tried an Ominous Presence Hive Tyrant + Tyrant Guard brick? Up to OC 14, and OC 8 when the TG are stripped away.
@stephenrepper8118
3 ай бұрын
Re the respawning strat caps. I wonder if they realised it might be quite powerful to keep a respawned battleline unit off the board until T5 for the secret mission that is based on battleline units being in the right board position? By capping it at once you still can try to keep that unit in your back pocket but it costs you the benefit of using it earlier? Maybe, does seem quite random though
@The_fat_kid145
3 ай бұрын
Perfect timing for me to take my Tyranids to their first game tomorrow! 🎉
@martynfurnival3455
3 ай бұрын
And you will more than likely get abused for the first 10 games with a weak army book and then choose to buy another, better army. I know I play tyranids, it's like banging your head against a brick wall often
@harrymcguire7557
3 ай бұрын
Good luck!
@user-hv6gi9ux6z
3 ай бұрын
Have ..you even given your new buffs a chance?@@martynfurnival3455
@The_fat_kid145
3 ай бұрын
@@harrymcguire7557 thanks! 😊 Looking forward to unleashing the big boys, S10 norn melee, D6+6 rupture cannon shooting and Zonathropes with their new leader buff
@user-hv6gi9ux6z
3 ай бұрын
@@martynfurnival3455can you, just not?
@cheezypotatoes
3 ай бұрын
For Crusher Stampede the +2 OC helps Carnifexes since they will never be under starting strength until one of them are dead, or until Old One Eye is by himself.
@shaniamonde7341
3 ай бұрын
And once Old One Eye has lost his squad he reverts to being a solo character (like all characters do) and thus is back at full strength again.
@cheezypotatoes
3 ай бұрын
@@shaniamonde7341 OOE can even heal back wounds to gain the OC back as well.
@Beriorn
3 ай бұрын
10 Genestealers + Broodlord are 230 points, which nets you 40 attacks at WS 2+ S5 AP -2 Devastating Wounds from the squad itself. That by itself causes about enough wounds to wipe out an entire squad of Marines in one fight. This is going to be FUN.
@waffleiron554
3 ай бұрын
Even better genestealers are actually 2+ WS
@twaddc1390
3 ай бұрын
I'm low key keen to run a tonne of Hormagaunts alongside some Hive Tyrants in Invasion Fleet 👌
@ANDELE3025
3 ай бұрын
I think you wrote the wrong gaunts, Terms (with devourers) are the shooty ones to get the lethal hits, as the tyrant aura doesnt benefit melee. And its something the Tervigon already does without the assault aspect which they dont need due to the reactive and surge moves they have.
@twaddc1390
3 ай бұрын
@@ANDELE3025 nah Hormagaunts within Synapse for the extra strength in melee, and the Hive Tyrant dishing out a free strat not restricted to Battle Tactic - shall see how it goes
@ANDELE3025
3 ай бұрын
@@twaddc1390 Ah, so flyrant to keep up with the dashing lings. Yeah, can see it working for the invasion 5 crits/endless 5 crit+sustained1/synaptics rerolls., not sure using the strat cost reduction will be worth it on the 4/1/1 (being 5 points more per 10, worse mission action economy and when brood+stealers are now a efficiently scary prospect instead of merely the "well, im playing GSC without playing GSC and actually able to mostly do even point side trades/kill without rng and neurolthicctor help, at least till a precision attack snipes the broodlord out")
@Backstabmacro
3 ай бұрын
Agreed, I’m looking forward to trying some gun warriors with a venom cannon tyrant and tyrant guard.
@poetrollem326
3 ай бұрын
Pretty excited for Vanguard Onslaught, the big threat range now actually has some THREAT behind it. Lictors at s8 for 55 points plus all of their other rules feel auto-include everywhere, but here especially where they can charge 18" on average. The chameleon flyrant was already pretty playable as well, but im pretty sure the best change is horms being s4, which is a lot more 5s to wound instead of 6s. Still pretty hard to tankbust, but at least we can get to s10 now instead of it being an impossible ask.
@xeno-chris
3 ай бұрын
Funny thing about Zoanthropes and Big guns never tire is that they don't get -1 to hit because RAW that only aplies to monster models 😂
@voltix54
3 ай бұрын
Which is why it clearly wasnt intented and so no one should run it like that
@dkng6363
3 ай бұрын
@@voltix54why?
@voltix54
3 ай бұрын
@@dkng6363 because its a janky twisting of the rules? like why would you on purpose misinterpret the intentions of the rules when its clearly a mistake? this is why we cant have nice things in 40k because people will find the most ridiculous legal interpretation and run with it when it makes no sense so they have to tighten the rules.
@robertreyes6959
3 ай бұрын
@@voltix54 they could always just write the rules correctly and clearly form the start so that there is no need for interpretation...
@voltix54
3 ай бұрын
@@robertreyes6959 agreed its really sloppy of gw but theres no reason to take that frustration out on your fellow player
@Dead_Fish0
3 ай бұрын
Makes me wonder what the point in buying a £37 codex is when they just overhaul all the rules anyways and it becomes useless 😂
@vaettra1589
3 ай бұрын
They want you to buy the app.
@jaketheglutenphreakharris6620
3 ай бұрын
Honestly none. They could save a MASSIVE bundle by digitizing the rules. They could charge the same amount and the community would still buy them.
@capnbrunch9612
3 ай бұрын
Neurolictor and Broodlord being synapse creatures makes sense what else them big heads for?
@JJ-yl2mi
3 ай бұрын
Correction if you read shadow in the warp carefully the new part of -1LD isn't just for the shadow in the warp trigger it's for any and all battleshock tests
@whirlbladewing2524
3 ай бұрын
The rule states " Each time an enemy unit takes *such* a Battle-shock test". Pretty sure it's only limited to the Shadow in the Warp shocks since it specifies the kind of battle-shock test.
@Snaek1
3 ай бұрын
if you read it reaallllyyy carefully youll find out youre wrong lol
@aengusrafferty5755
3 ай бұрын
Regarding Crusher Stampede: The OC boost actually helps with bringing in Carnifex units. Before the 2 man fex units couldn't benefit from the detachment because you couldn't get 'below half' for the +1 to wound and you needed to lose an entire carnifex to get the +1 to hit. But now this means a carnifex block has 10 OC until it loses a carnifex and then the remaining one gets +1 to hit. Unsure how much this would help but it actually allows carnifexes to be useful now.
@AshenHawk96
3 ай бұрын
Honestly one of the little niche tricks I'm hyped for is Mawlocs in Vanguard considering you can now use a stratagem to pull them back into reserves repeatedly
@alpharius3661
3 ай бұрын
I think what people done realize is that synapse was a non ability. Most other factions never worry about morale, most relevant with Necrons being a similarly versatile army Synapse was just making their morale have more stipulations with almost zero upside, making Tyranids only actual ability be a shitty once per game give a couple units battleshock maybe.
@isaacfoley6728
3 ай бұрын
* Insert auspex doesnt sleep joke here *
@EPICSAWIKI
3 ай бұрын
Gaaah I need some more hormagaunts.. I’ve been needing hormagaunts but this solidifies it.
@JbizzyG
3 ай бұрын
Battleshock test caps at 10+ roll, max -2 to leadership (DL and dirgeheart) and -2 to roll SiTW and Neurotyrant.
@albertbargery9619
3 ай бұрын
Love the necronunda Tyranid sculpts right now. Far better than having either a few normal guardsmen or actual Tyranids in my gsc army. Interested to see how this update changes the game.
@TheNecromanerXIII
3 ай бұрын
I don't play nids so I was honestly laughing when I saw some of the changes to them. I couldn't believe that the Neurolictor didn't have Synapse or that the Raveners weren't vanguard invaders. It's good that they finally got it but, it should've been part of their original errata.
@cjgibbsey
3 ай бұрын
Other weird thing with big guns never tire, it says monster units can shoot but only monster models get the -1 to hit
@Ohfishyfishyfish
3 ай бұрын
Wondering if the new Crusher Stampede +2OC to monsters affects the Harpy/Hive Crone? They're currently 0OC. I can't imagine it wouldn't affect them.
@karrick526
3 ай бұрын
My boy doesn't sleep - he waits for rules updates.
@EddieJET
3 ай бұрын
The neuronode enhancement for Vanguard onslaught got nerfed as well to the lesser redeployment but overall very good buffs for my bugs.
@fruminousbandersnatch2137
3 ай бұрын
maleceptors are even nastier now, extra melee str plus them being good melee debuffers anyway just makes for a nice upgrade
@isaacgraff8288
3 ай бұрын
I do want to see Crusher improved.
@Trignama1
3 ай бұрын
Wow, Nids are looking MUCH better now, MUUUUUCH better.
@leSmokySmoke
3 ай бұрын
Im Happy for you that you can believe that for 2 weeks :)
@Trignama1
3 ай бұрын
@@leSmokySmoke LMAO, WOOOOOOOOOW, bro you cannot be serious right? You are just one of those people who NO MATTER WHAT they need to cry and complain? You must be a real treat IRL. The game ebbs and flows, all armies are affected by changes, it's up to you as the player to deal with it.
@leSmokySmoke
3 ай бұрын
@@Trignama1 im Just realistic. We come into this Update hugely nerfed by the fact that we can no longer easily Score Points Turn 1 outside of vanguard. And at a much Higher Point Investment From Turn 2 onwards. So this alone would have probably dropped us down to a generous 40% winrate, because thats all we had, getting a bit lucky and clinging onto These Points and hopefully hold primary for Just long enough before getting wiped. So thats our starting Point Here. OFCOURSE the +1S in melee is a big Deal in many situations, and it probably will be enough to get us barely back to 45%.. but we will still be among the weakest armies. Some of the other changes are cute QoL, but no significant buff to our widely still overcosted army that have to Invest even more Points into scoring now. And having acess to a more reliable anti Tank unit is cute, but at 305pts I still dont See it beeing worth the take unless your already brought zoans, which are never played right now because how Bad and overcosted they are.. And we couple this with a devasting Nerf to swarm, and a harsh Nerf to Invasion fleets tankyness..
@TheMagicalPinata
2 ай бұрын
@@leSmokySmoke This comment aged like milk. 53% win rate
@leSmokySmoke
2 ай бұрын
@@TheMagicalPinata I dont know what made up stats you are looking up, but right now after week two they sit on a solid 48% winrate, which I agree is better than expected, but basically still low mid tier who struggle and need to punch up, which they still cant really do that much. especially casually. unless you want to bank on a bunch of 50/50 to go your way, which is the only way to win a tournament. I want to play a board game and not poker. Sure poker also requires skill, but in the end it always comes down to luck, and this is tyranids right now..
@ForTehNguyen
3 ай бұрын
crusher stampede needs +2" move detachment rule
@ArCSelkie37
3 ай бұрын
The only thing I actually care about here is the fact that Mawlocs and Raveners got the Vanguard keyword... no fucking idea why they didnt have it anyway
@nicoleandscottnelson3933
3 ай бұрын
Lol "not so unending swarm"
@torbenschulz31
3 ай бұрын
Is the debuff for shadow in the warp of synapse comulative with the debuff of the Neurotyrant?
@mattiismouse1086
3 ай бұрын
>unending swarm >Looks inside >Swarm ends after 1 use
@rifleman303_9
3 ай бұрын
Small thing, but both norn assimilator and emissary have synapse
@mandemulus6196
3 ай бұрын
Can hierodules be a proxy for a Norn Emissary/Assimilator?
@Strike62151
3 ай бұрын
I feel like that even with all the buffs, and sure the extra strength pip is amazing, it’s hard to say it’s just as good as he potential 80 extra models unending swarm would have had. Other detachments are better now sure, but the swarm build certainly took a crippling hit
@friendlyspacedragon7250
3 ай бұрын
Certainly an interesting change. Perhaps we'll see warriors played again and even raveners every now and then. Overall it seems like a buff but probably not so big buff the winrates are going over 50%.
@gratuitouslurking8610
3 ай бұрын
While all of these are nice buffs, I am worried that this still won't entirely fix things. Being able to vomit dice onto targets won't help if you don't have the AP to work with it, and a lot of tyranid units are still going to struggle against 3+s just in general function. Then again the +1S for synapse will drastically improve the monsters and units that actually have melee attacks to do so (and those tend to be big AP hitters as well), so guess we'll have to see.
@TheGImp1214
3 ай бұрын
All of the sudden spine fist guants shot way up in value since you dont have to take a tervigon tax to make them hit
@Paranormal-Stupidity
3 ай бұрын
If only they had given this much attention to other struggling factions...
@noahlewis6776
3 ай бұрын
They did at least give admech some much needed love
@leSmokySmoke
3 ай бұрын
the fact that we even have negatives in this, and no points cuts is a warcrime honestly.. everything besides exocrines, haruspex and maybe warriors are overcosted, and some still drastically so.. having raveners (even though they are vanguard now) and von ryans at the exact same cost as warriors is just a joke. having screamer killer still beeing 20 pts more than haruspex for just T9 10W is a crime.. Having Carnifexes at the same cost as a haruspex with T9 8W, and WS/BS 4+ is just sad and makes no sense at all.. and these are just the worst condenders.. All the tyrant/swarmlord kit models beeing just hugely overcosted daemon princes, costing 50% more than even an already bad screamer killer are just not worth taking mathematically for just their buffs when you can just get one and a half or almost 2 just better models on the bord...
@t3hSpAdEs
3 ай бұрын
Talk about how half arsed the born soldiers change is. Use the wyvern as an example
@cyriksfilmshobbies9587
2 ай бұрын
Where do i found thoses updated rules ???
@remze5714
3 ай бұрын
Will the new shadow in the warp change actually stack with the neurotyrant?
@facundorodriguez1717
3 ай бұрын
my rippers swarm wounding on 5+ !
@blazegraves
3 ай бұрын
I started in March as an Unending Swarm player after watching a few videos about Tyranids. Now, I am selling everything next month to a friend because this is not the game I thought it was.
@robbiepeacocke2465
3 ай бұрын
Try invasion fleet with your swarm - can regenerate models with the stratagems and running a Tervigon. Or assimilation swarm allows some regeneration too
@APoptart7
3 ай бұрын
Leadership can only go to 8+ not 9+. The rules commentary says "After all modifiers are applied, Leadership characteristics can NEVER be 4+ (or better), or 9+ (or worse)." So the range is 5+ to 8+
@vaettra1589
3 ай бұрын
How do Mawloc come from reserve turn 1, is it a stratagem?
@kjubon8888
3 ай бұрын
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@JadeFoxAlpha
3 ай бұрын
How often does Reinforcements get triggered in a 5 round game, on average? Is it really more than, like... twice? I think people are really over-estimating that nerf.
@alexandreleduc2392
3 ай бұрын
when this gonna be in use?
@MrNicster
3 ай бұрын
You are a legend!
@gh0stkat440
3 ай бұрын
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@BillWD
3 ай бұрын
Good changes in general. That nerf to the Unending Swarm strat has made this detachment unplayable in any competetive sense. When I play Unending Swarm i have won ganes by the skin of my teeth owing this strat, now i'll run out of models by end of turn 4. Looks like I'm back to Invasion Fleet again which i got bored of. Or maybe give Hive Nexus a go.
@simonmorley4816
3 ай бұрын
Biovore in the backfield is genuinely dead. Having a Pyrovore in the backfield at least threatens overwatch against deepstriking infantry
@simonmorley4816
3 ай бұрын
Biovores are maybe worth 50 for 3, maybe 30/40/50 Only worth being indirect shooting. Even Hive Guard look better
@matthewzlamal6315
3 ай бұрын
I wish the Swarmlord got some more love. It seems like Hive Tyrant just overshadows it now.
@Khobai
3 ай бұрын
just be happy one of them is good now. they all sucked before.
@vaettra1589
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, at least he does get the "Lord of Deceit" 12" aura.
@dukaduka01
3 ай бұрын
5:07 where does it say you can't use insane bravery for shadows in the warp?
@banishedpest115
3 ай бұрын
Insane bravery strat states it is used in the battleshock step. Shadow can happen at anytime, I'm command phase, so you just do it afterwards.
@dukaduka01
3 ай бұрын
@banishedpest115 Awesome thank you, never knew this!
@Saften46
3 ай бұрын
Invasion fleet got hit aswell. With the new rules to free strategem usage being changed to reducing the cost of the strategame by 1 for that use, Adrenal surge now costs 1 CP to use with Hive Tyrant. Not a massive hit. Just a little sad I suppose. :(
@91elpiris
3 ай бұрын
you can use other strats for free like adding lethal/sustained hits when needed or consolidate 6" (which is very underrated IMHO). No more battle tactic restriction.
@vaettra1589
3 ай бұрын
The big hit against Invasion Fleet is that you can no longer do the 5+ FNP strat twice per round.
@natefxpro2973
3 ай бұрын
Zoans on 2s and possibly 2s again hmmm maybe ill make my printer go brrrrrrr
@airboyaaron8870
3 ай бұрын
I don't think the app is reflecting these changes yet
@Oldmaite
3 ай бұрын
How often do games workshop do big box sets like leviathan?
@erickt8184
3 ай бұрын
Every new edition usually.
@simonmorley4816
3 ай бұрын
Crusher seems better than you give it credit for Being able to koolaid-man your way through buildings is significantly better, though its a shame that Norns dont get this as standard as they are our closest thing to a Knight. Combine that with TFexes being D6+6 dmg now, its probably worth playing a list that runs 2 rupture cannons, 2 exocrine, a Norn Emissary or 2, some chaff, and a couple neuro lictors Probably the best antitank nonesense we have going. 2s rerolling to hit, 2s to wound against anything B Shocked, and at most 3s otherwise, use the strat for ignore minuses and cover and they almost guaranteed kill anything without an invun, and threaten to against things with a 5+
@blem5376
3 ай бұрын
More ranger buffs? Aren’t tyranids supposed to be more melee based? It suits the lore
@jorgetagle3778
3 ай бұрын
yeah gonna say it up front, synaptic nexus is looking better and better
@zeroxexe111
3 ай бұрын
Its so great to see other factions get buffs and new units. The blueboys are being too stagnant.
@mattyorshin
3 ай бұрын
I dont think parasite needed synapse.
@Poisedanubis85
3 ай бұрын
Fkn finally ffs lol sorry auspex but it about bloody time we got a melee buff,,,to a mostly melee faction.
@Captain0Newman
3 ай бұрын
Wow once per battle hoard unit respawn is devastating. We already ended all our games with none of our models alive before this change... now we're unplayable
@user-hv6gi9ux6z
3 ай бұрын
And ignore your other changes, sure
@woagwoag
3 ай бұрын
your leadership statistic caps out at a 9+, does that actually as written matter at all when every debuff takes away from the roll not from the statistic?
@danwalter2175
3 ай бұрын
Guess its Ending Swarm now
@Powaup
2 ай бұрын
Holy cow
@Itsallover57
3 ай бұрын
Tervigon is more of a meme now than anything since hive tyrant does its job but better.
@solid-snake7336
3 ай бұрын
Good shit. Tyranids be amazing now
@leSmokySmoke
3 ай бұрын
Sadly with just +1S in melee, it is not nearly enough to improve tyranids in a major way. People forget that they come into this dataslate HEAVILY nerfed at 45% winrate, while no longer beeing able to score easily turn one in all detachments, and at much higher cost from turn 2 onward.. There is no early gsme advsntage anymore, which was the only way to sneak in a win. Now I dont see them still killing anything and still getting wiped They needed much more that S10 melee or convoluted S11 with a screamer killer next to a norn or maliceptor.. And also more than a single overcostet 305 points anti tank unit that is so easily killed... This will still barely keep them above the line.... Still doing nothing against daemon primarchs or knights or a simple leman russ.. Couple this with additionals nerfs to swarm and invasionfleet in this update...
@dkng6363
3 ай бұрын
Ld debuff caps at 8+
@joshuakoehne7506
3 ай бұрын
The only bad thing that happened was the loss of Hierodules. 😢
@Truthteller024
3 ай бұрын
I am very unhappy about unending swarm changes. It really wasn't necessary.
@xrich1577
3 ай бұрын
The nerf to unending swarm is a huge disappointment.
@Bubblesbubble-m7p
Ай бұрын
You can still run it in invasion fleet fairly well
@BrownBread-qq2jp
3 ай бұрын
I know all the chads are going to ignore the once per game bring back a unit rule 😎
@finnferral
3 ай бұрын
So when do GW send me my free reference card updates?
@LeeHobbies
3 ай бұрын
Barbed and Scythed Heirodules are both GONE! Sad, sad face.
@martynfurnival3455
3 ай бұрын
If we are lucky Tyramids will go fro 42% win to 43% win, say good bye to any tournament wins now endless swarm is fcucked
@NornQueenKya
3 ай бұрын
Buahahaha fear the shadow!
@levidavidson2362
3 ай бұрын
They nerfed recycling models back on to the table because recycled models are a new kit you didn't buy
@ashardalondragnipurake
3 ай бұрын
the +str is a joke trying to pretend synapse is a compensation for massively underpowered and overpriced stats while synapse should be its own mechanic thats is the core of the army and the stats of geneticly perfect creatures should be base good just like the shadow wich also is still a joke
@DaveMcMuffin
3 ай бұрын
Casino canon is now better
@jehhhGames
3 ай бұрын
Scarier implies we were scary at all. These changes gave a spike collar to chihuahua. I guarantee we dont pass 46% win rate, we are at 43% before the change. This addresses almost no issues we had.
@ashardalondragnipurake
3 ай бұрын
the entire codex still a sad joke pathetic
@Klierowski
3 ай бұрын
Tyranids- faction with had better win rates than codex marines.... did receive a big buff whole codex marines got only nerf. Fuck GW
@banishedpest115
3 ай бұрын
Space marine win rates are heavily skewed by newbs being crushed, marines were in a much healthier state than bugs, and considering the recent bug nerfs, they probably still are. Space marines need a bit of tlc but bugs were unplayable bar a few specific builds.
@ANDELE3025
3 ай бұрын
Nids didnt have a better win rate than marines except for Deathwatch. Closest to nids were Blood Angels (that got buffed twice now) and Dark Angels (with nerfs kinda undone) were in the same range (DAs) or notably higher (BA) if you looked at tournament only instead of competitive gamestore compiled data with everyone else having a 8%+ higher win rate, but unlike nids had the capacity to kill heavier enemy models with at worst as costly or cheaper units. And no, space marines without a chapter is not a army, its a base the chapters work off so that GWs posterboys get around 3x the army rule options as other armies (and 2-3 extra core strats as outside of both normal and edgy flavors of marines, the rest dont have full access to smoke, nades, TS capable vehicles, etc; some parts that GW did now try to ease). RIP deathwatch tho.
@parzaius9
3 ай бұрын
If it makes you feel any better, default marines have won and placed in WAY more tournaments than nids. And if you factor in all the divergent chapters on top of that, it's a cruel joke.
@joheras9330
3 ай бұрын
Marines also jave qcess tp +1 ap and lance and can trade fpr cheap nids do not...
@Phantosio
3 ай бұрын
Ending Swarm 🥲
@Tinytraveler
3 ай бұрын
Good, my buddy Dave has been playing Nids all edition, I wanted to see him have more fun with his army and it looks like this will help. Really nice to see him excited!
@izzibizzistrizzi
3 ай бұрын
you're a good dude
@Tinytraveler
3 ай бұрын
@@izzibizzistrizzi Hey you know what? I've had a hard day today, when I made that comment I genuinely meant it, and to have someone just say that made today a lot less tough. Appreciated.
@AcornPlays
3 ай бұрын
Hooray for Dave lol
@chriscapps206
3 ай бұрын
good day to be dave,good friend to say that, W friend moment for sure
@dallinbernhardt4540
3 ай бұрын
As a new player that literally just got into 40k (haven't even played a single game yet) I am very excited with the Tyranid buff as they are the army I was planning on collecting! May the swarm never stop consuming!
@HockeyWerewolf
2 ай бұрын
Best of luck to you, I think they're a really fun army to collect, look cool and are actually very easy to paint!
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