Now that you know how deaf people think check out this video and find out How the Blind Dream: kzitem.info/news/bejne/pHyYuo2aqWR9Z5g
@thejoshmes258
5 жыл бұрын
We think like you we have a voice in our heads I don't need to express it if it's in my head because I am not I'm not another person and my reading age is excellent I'm 12 yet my reading age is 16
@HyperionaSilverleaf
5 жыл бұрын
Most of mine are visual, but since I do hear some I do narrate and monologue.
@technowey
5 жыл бұрын
Today I Found Out - Thank you for your great videos.
@preshisify
5 жыл бұрын
finally! thank you 🤗☕
@preshisify
5 жыл бұрын
now... I've heard and read that animals think in a series of photographs? 🤔 maybe another video? 🤗☕
@DenisRyan
7 жыл бұрын
Bonus Fact: It is now recommended to use basic sign language with infants, as it had been shown that it helps them communicate earlier. They can sign simple words, like milk, food, more, up, all done or help before they can speak them. This gives the Infant a means to express their basic needs at a very early age, resulting in much less frustration for all. Bonus Fact 2: Babies born to deaf parents have been shown to babble in sign language! They move their hands in ways not typical of babies of speaking parents, mimicking in a general sense their parents hand motions, even if the babies themselves are not deaf!
@DankoleClouds
7 жыл бұрын
Denis Ryan Thanks for this. My girlfriend is having a little baby girl in the next few weeks and I'm wanting to teach her sign language. I don't know much sign language yet, though. I'm hoping to learn online or take some classes.
@alienmechanic8696
7 жыл бұрын
elefant
@msjkramey
7 жыл бұрын
Denis Ryan I didn't know about the babbling! That is so, so sweet
@christopherscottb
7 жыл бұрын
Wow. Both extremely interesting. Thanks for those.
@colorbugoriginals4457
7 жыл бұрын
One of my sons is Autistic and was non-verbal the first few years of his life, he did not even say "mama." He would get frustrated not being able to express himself. So I started teaching him signs, since I learned ASL as a teenager, and it completely changed everything for him, he could tell us what was wrong, what he wanted or needed, and so forth. Imagine not being able to express these things even if your mind is fully functional, and it is not hard to understand why kids like that can have such violent meltdowns, it would drive anyone to the brink.
@noahsdeafeyes
7 жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm Deaf. I have an answer. I think in either ASL (American Sign Language) or images.
@Nadia-rq9em
6 жыл бұрын
iNoahASL so if you are like in an ice cream shop ad you’re debating which flavor to get so you see the words (or signs) in your head or is there some other way?
@marccolten9801
5 жыл бұрын
Makes me think. I can hear so I hear words in my head. So what are the signs for "Kill them. Kill them all"?
@julrofe
5 жыл бұрын
How fast do the signs / images flash in your mind? Do you find you're quicker or slower at thinking than others who can hear?
@martinszmidt6121
5 жыл бұрын
so if you're deaf how did you hear what he said? checkmate t. atheist
@valerune192
5 жыл бұрын
Ive heard theres people that cant see pictures in their head. I wonder if deaf ppl that has this condition as well. How they think o-o
@aetherseraph
7 жыл бұрын
please add CC. I very much want to share this with my wife who is profoundly deaf. but I cannot rely on the auto generated captioning to properly convey the information.
@oliveartistic4708
5 жыл бұрын
Its working fine to me
@normalguycraig
4 жыл бұрын
They added them now! Enjoy sharing this with your wife
@yoursleepparalysisdemon1828
4 жыл бұрын
aetherseraph Just in case, they added them
@ham1847
3 жыл бұрын
LETS GOOOOOOOO
@JordanPeterson.
3 жыл бұрын
The added them my nega
@marirose4123
6 жыл бұрын
I've typed as a medical transcriptionist for over 30 years. I find myself typing conversations in my mind while listening, really odd
@shaun_rambaran
5 жыл бұрын
That's _really_ interesting!
@DasAntiNaziBroetchen
5 жыл бұрын
Are you the typewriter guy from the anime "Monster"?
@AckSnus
2 жыл бұрын
@@DasAntiNaziBroetchen I wish she would look it up and answer back, that reference is novel.
@madlucian4623
7 жыл бұрын
do animals have different languages like dogs from France can't understand dogs from Spain
@pluransart1795
7 жыл бұрын
orio jules is that a fact?
@MadameRaven1
7 жыл бұрын
Vacso Kagazzle Laloobay Hoophorn Wacago Seiliu I think it was a question.
@rebeccamorgan4011
7 жыл бұрын
orio jules I don't know about that but I've heard that cows have regional accents.
@thoughtyness
7 жыл бұрын
orio jules I've never heard of that. I've only heard of dogs not being able to take commands from a person in a different language.
@AlexsAmazingIpad
7 жыл бұрын
Animals don't tend to have any kind of intelligent language whatsoever, they just pick up on signals from others based on body language or simple noises e.g. growling being an 'aggressive' sound, accompanying aggressive body language. Therefore dogs and other animals from all over the world should be able to 'understand' each other because their 'languages' are more behavioural (which is unlikely to differ massively region to region) than speech related. It's possible more intelligent animals like chimps could have primitive forms of language but nothing on the scale of human language where specific sounds correspond to specific 'words'.
@jasonarmstrong5750
7 жыл бұрын
Imagine if a deaf person has schizophrenia...all of a sudden they think they heard something and then they realize "oh yeah that's right I can't actually hear"
@Bug_H
7 жыл бұрын
Jason Armstrong I'm guessing they would have more visual hallucinations
@fantasyconnect
7 жыл бұрын
juicy0whoot Nah, it'd be kinaesthesia based hallucination
@man4437
7 жыл бұрын
juicy0whoot They'd see speaking. There would just be someone signing at them.
@quidnick
7 жыл бұрын
What about a deaf and blind schizophrenic.
@1001011011010
7 жыл бұрын
Jason Armstrong I wonder if deaf people get intrusive thoughts.
@PatrickPoet
7 жыл бұрын
I am a hearing person and grew up normally, but now I've had a 46 year meditation practice and over the last ten or twelve years it became normal not to think in language first in meditation, and then later just walking around. When not thinking I still understand language, I just don't have an internal monologue going. I also develop memories just fine. I comprehend, I draw conclusions, I make decisions, all without a thought stream. I have a stronger focus on what people are saying because I'm not distracted by my own thoughts. I perceive more accurately because my thinking brain is always going to come up with some conclusion even if it doesn't know what it is talking about! lol. It would be cool if you did a Today I Found Out about the differences in how brains like mine work.
@nida_a_hashmi
10 ай бұрын
I am an educator and few students ( deaf) have approached me for education. I don't know sign language and i am for the first time in my life thinking about how deaf people learn things. Wow 👌 While I was reading your story, I was smiling with tears in my eyes. Thank you for writing about it and adding up a new dimension for my understanding.
@Welsh_Veteran_420_Z
9 ай бұрын
Very interesting, I also have no inner monologue, but I have never had one, just a very strong imagination since childhood. I have become interested in the topic as it seems 10% of population has no inner monologue but I wasn't aware of the ability of people to "transition". The fact that you made the inner voice quiet through meditation is incredible and could be the key to understanding the phenomenon of varied modes of cognition. Interestingly I am well spoken and articulate, but socially awkward I am slow at verbal comprehension but read exceptionally fast There is much speculation out there of "NPC" theory - that people think those with no inner monologue have "no soul" or are unthinking automatons or sociopaths. Funnily enough to my mind only being able to think in language is very narrow.. linear... and *loud*
@pcdsgh
7 жыл бұрын
This was more informative than I expected. Well done.
@jacobdawson2109
7 жыл бұрын
This sheds some interesting light on the connections between language, thought and consciousness.
@MystikkShadow
7 жыл бұрын
I asked my completely deaf grandma this about a year ago, and she thought about it and then signed "I don't know". Very helpful hahah
@UpcycleElectronics
7 жыл бұрын
This was the most interesting thing I've seen on this channel to date. Thanks. This concept begs the question, what role if any does the simplicity/complexity and structure of a language play on human intellectual potential?
@SkipTerrio
7 жыл бұрын
My inner voice sounds like Simon Whistler.
@ManuelRuthLopez
7 жыл бұрын
I work with deaf people in Mexico, and fully agree with everything you explain here. Thank you for expressing everything so clearly!
@hairyfrankfurt
7 жыл бұрын
This was actually really saddening. It's easy to take for granted our "inner voice" and how important it is with reading, thinking and how it is a massive part of our distance from the animal kingdom.
@tiphlizsvp6901
6 жыл бұрын
Very true!! I grew up in the 80s and went to a school that did not believe in Sign language.. I was very lucky because I am hard of hearing. I wasnt left completely in the dark.. But seeing some of my friends who are completely deaf fate was not as lucky... I see them struggle even until this day... That's a price that many of us paid for being deaf and dealing ignorant people. Now its our job to educate the world about that.. Thanks for the video!! Its was very good!!
@lehijenks6778
7 жыл бұрын
I am not deaf but most likely have dyslexia (I was never diagnosed). When as a teenager I found out that most people think in words, it blew my mind, I could not comprehend how that could be possible. I had always thought in objects and actions in multiple dimensions, and the closest I could come was to play through of the act of having a conversation. After years of practice, I have developed more of an inner voice, but still have little association with written words.
@DerMikeDee
7 жыл бұрын
I think mostly in pictures, so this question is very weird to me.
@funguseater3602
4 жыл бұрын
Mike Dee that’s weird af
@RobWright1981
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, me too. I never say words in my head.
@DinosaurNick
4 жыл бұрын
i hear my own voice in my head when thinking, or if i'm thinking of something someone else said or might say i hear it in their voice
@kickinbackinOC
7 жыл бұрын
I generally agree with the principles espoused here, with one notable exception that I have noticed in my personal experience. (First off, I am a person who can hear, especially when called to dinner) In my line of work, I frequently need to design complex electrical circuits to perform a certain task. There are no generic circuits to copy from, as my circuit designs are bespoke for the challenge that faces me. To begin with the solution finding process, I will write a short "story", if you will, where the challenge is described in full English sentences. This helps direct my thoughts to the eventual answer. Then I will list the extant technical elements that are known, such as the specific voltage available, the status and timing of various signals that can be used as inputs, and the desired output(s), etc. Then a funny thing happens, as I begin to concentrate on the answer to the new puzzle- My inner voice grows quieter! And if it's a really hard problem, my inner voice nearly shuts off entirely, (in fact, it's better during this process if I can cease to think using language) as the creative part of my brain takes over. The intuitive side of my mind "takes the reigns", so to speak, and while occupying center stage in the theater of my mind, my intuitive mind can work much, much faster, and think much more deeply, and grasp much broader simultaneous truths when it is unfettered by awkward, clumsy words, that are not flexible enough, nor descriptive enough, nor meaningful enough to be used as placeholders for broader concepts, and for codifying "revolutionary" ideas. It is during this time that my mind is "wearing 7 league boots", and is truly free to create the solutions to the most difficult design issues that I deal with. My intuitive mind can go beyond the mere pedestrian musings of a mind fettered by the heavy baggage of words. Words at this time are as ineffectual as blunt logs, when the precision of scapels and razors is required. After my intuitive mind has found the solution, a reverse process occurs, where I once again join my heretofore extremely abstract thoughts that transcend words, back into the format of spoken language, (however clumsy and inept language may be) I quickly write down the essence of the answer before the muse is lost, then fill in the more mundane details to make the whole solution something that can be understood by others, and more easily recalled by myself when it's time to actually build my circuit. I often wonder if composers go through a similar process, first creating their auditory inspirations in their mind, and then putting them down to sheet music. Shear ceativity comes from the deep recess of the consciousness, that transcends mere balky language!
@DaniLeia3
6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, and makes complete sense to me as an early childhood educator. It has been drilled into me that the first five years of life are the most important for acquiring language. The larger the vocabulary a child has, the more successful they will be in school and life. One way to increase vocabulary is to learn another language. This is one reason, among many, that I teach my hearing children ASL.
@ninjanerdstudent6937
5 жыл бұрын
We have up our memory for language. --Vsauce
@mirmo96
7 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that thinks Simon used to smile more and be more enthusiastic (than he currently is)...?
@_Piers_
7 жыл бұрын
Mrinmoy Dalal Brexit!
@JG-fg1ye
7 жыл бұрын
everyone has an off day, sure he'll bounce back next vid
@carolynmmitchell2240
6 жыл бұрын
he's on heroin, look in his how it's made video he has a bandaid covering his track marks.. why you think he always wear long sleeves normally?
@Christs_Soldier
7 жыл бұрын
Wow... we take so much for granted. Even trying to think of how life would be without the basic senses that we depend on for our day to day lives can do no justice. This video really shows just how many areas of our lives could get affected even if there's nothing wrong with you apart from the fact that you lack the function of one sensory organ. Makes you really think. Most of us are so blessed to have everything work perfectly, and yet, we don't use our full potential.
@Stormymystic
7 жыл бұрын
As a person with progressive hearing loss, and having attended a deaf school in my teens, I can tell you most deaf people are a lot smarter than many give them credit for. I was never taught sign language, because when I was young enough to learn it easily, I was not considered deaf enough to attend the school. I speak like a normal person, but I struggle with hearing.
@Melissa0774
7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it's easier for deaf people to learn to read languages like Chinese or Japanese, because the characters are more visual?
@JayTemple
6 жыл бұрын
THAT'S an interesting question!
@FortisConscius
6 жыл бұрын
No. A written word, however it is composed, is a visual piece.
@Vitorruy1
6 жыл бұрын
Melissa0774 chinese characters are words we dont see/read them as pictures.
@silverandexact
6 жыл бұрын
Languages like Chinese, where characters represent words/ideas and not sounds, and some characters can be "built upon" to make a new but related word/idea, are more similar to American sign language than English is to it. I don't know how Chinese grammar is compared to ASL/other sign language grammar, though (ASL grammar is not the same as English), other than that verbs are not conjugated in either language.
@JK-ROSE05
6 жыл бұрын
No, not really.
@Snake-yx1dq
4 жыл бұрын
I'm watching three years after published and only recently learned not all people have that inner voice in their head.
@yetzalischm9711
5 жыл бұрын
I've been studying two years Sign Language (Germany) for becoming a Sign Language interpreter before i quit and moved abroad. During my time signing every day, I realized i'd think and sometimes even Dream in sign language!! Shortly after, while living abroad I learned english (mostly for work) and spanish (everyday usage) - boy had I fun in terms of my thoughts switching inbetween all four languages depending on the situation!!!
@covenof2
7 жыл бұрын
Um this completely ignores that not everyone has an "inner voice." All the research you cite is done exclusively on people who do. But there has been documentation of people who think without voice - usually thinking in images, but sometimes by other methods. I have a friend who is not deaf, is not "mentally handicapped" (other than that she, like me, has ADHD), and is in fact multilingual and a very good student. However, she has no inner voice and thinks in images. When I describe to her that yes I do have an inner monolog (and, personally, for me it is multiple layers of monologs and sometimes even a me-me dialog), its unimaginable to her. Since learning of this, I have learned to cross check the often very dated research that presumes inner voice is the only manner of thought, though I admit research that is more open-minded is severely lacking.
@archer9338
5 жыл бұрын
Thinking in images is common in some people who are dyslexic. Dyslexia is often misdiagnosed as ADHD.
@aneiasl
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Video! I teach American Sign Language at a high school level, this is a great video to show and start a class discussion!
@soccerbrad99
7 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: I have deaf parents and sometimes while they're driving or doing something that requires thinking, I can see their hands signing something very faintly, off to the side, which is most like whispering thoughts to yourself when you are working on something.
@smissions7340
6 жыл бұрын
+BRADTOTHEBONE don't you have to take your hands off the wheel when you sign?
@BadassAlen
7 жыл бұрын
2:52 Deaf people should not use sign language and be forced to only use spoken word. The problem was, *_they're bloody deaf_*
@lizzy4827
6 жыл бұрын
BadassAlen it was basically reading lips and learning how make the correct mouth shapes for each sound...not saying it's good though...it must be torture to be forced to read people's mouth when many don't even articulate well
@TakaComics
7 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice the chunks of Simon's head being taken out by his glasses reflecting the chromakey'd color? XD I can't unsee it.
@_Piers_
7 жыл бұрын
Trevor Kent It's always like that. He should probably buy less glossy frames next time he needs a new pair. :)
@amandag417
5 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! This could explain why many nonverbal children with Autism are also labeled intellectually disabled. However, when taught verbal skills or to communicate in some form that they understand, their intellectual abilities drastically improve.
@GeoPol01
7 жыл бұрын
Finally a real question with a real answer that is interesting yet actually relevant
@davidbuschhorn6539
7 жыл бұрын
Recently, my voice has changed dramatically as a result of a neurological problem. I still think in my old voice. That's part of what causes my frustration at the change. It's as though I'm not the same person my brain is telling me I am because I *_sound_* different.
@_Piers_
7 жыл бұрын
David Buschhorn Ooh that must be very odd, it's bad enough hearing a recording of your voice and realising that no one else hears your voice the way you do.
@davidbuschhorn6539
7 жыл бұрын
It's so weird. I think in my old voice. The Steve Gleason Foundation gave me a nice Tobii Dynavox so when my voice finally goes completely, I won't be so isolated. I'm a writer so losing my voice isn't the worst thing that could happen, but losing the ability to walk and take care of myself while I'm also mute might not be so great. The Dynavox will let me talk even if I'm completely paralyzed and mute. As long as I can move my eyes, it'll let me communicate :-) It's pretty badass.
@sheilarough236
4 жыл бұрын
I used to work in a group home for patients with psych diagnosis. 1 of our residents was profoundly deaf since birth. He often complained of hearing voices, I never thought to ask if the voices were signing (his main language was ASL) or if he actually heard sounds in his head. It must have been so confusing for this young man before he got the psychological diagnosis & treatment
@lemonadecupcakes
7 жыл бұрын
I work with children and sometimes infants, and it makes sense that having their thoughts acknowledged and spoken back to them at early stages with sign language would hasten development. I had to do an inservice that leaned heavily on Piaget and I kept comparing his model with 'my' infants. It seemed backward and not compatible with them. But if the edge over their predecessors is due to early communication success, then it could be another piece of information supporting these findings.
@jadenstanbro1872
7 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly I've thought about this a lot and it's crazy to know how important something so simple as hearing is.
@Wysiwyg43
7 жыл бұрын
Wow! Another thing to consider is how do blind people, since birth, know about faces having never seen one. Blind babies smile when they're happy, frown when they're upset and make sad faces. I wonder if its evolutionary as humans to be ingrained with universal face emotions. I would like to see that topic covered. Thanks!
@chrisofnottingham
7 жыл бұрын
That was absolutely fascinating.
@db9002
7 жыл бұрын
I knew language was important but this just filled in the gaps in my knowledge in about 6 minutes. Excellent stuff. Keep up the good work.
@mrmjohnson1980
7 жыл бұрын
As a child of deaf parents I often wondered about this very thing.... My parent are both deaf because of non-hereditary reasons so I can hear and learned English and ASL at the same time. I remember seeing my dad think to himself and his fingers would "babble" (make the signs with his fingers but not the full hand and arm motion), so I could kind of see what he was thinking about. Which total backs up the theories in this video.
@thespook1482
7 жыл бұрын
Who is Jimmy, why does he crack corn, and why don't I care?
@CsDanex21
7 жыл бұрын
Imagine if you were deaf, blind, and couldn't speak.
@Naijiri.
7 жыл бұрын
Almost Helen Keller
@savannahherrera4591
7 жыл бұрын
Danex21 People whom are deaf/blind use tactile sign lanaguge
@emperorpalpatine4681
6 жыл бұрын
Pinball wizard
@JayTemple
6 жыл бұрын
I was going to go with a Metallica reference, but yours is good too.
@spankablemonkgorillamyname3642
6 жыл бұрын
I'd rather be dead
@unevenspleener
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this incredibly enlightening video. I teach at a school for the deaf in West Africa. Every day I am confronted with the challenge of what to teach in order to equip my students self-sufficiency after their education. It is incredibly more difficult than it might appear on the surface. Add to that the palpable social stigma that the deaf are forced to surmount.
@kevinorellana06
7 жыл бұрын
Your channel has grown so much, congrats!
@harvestblades
4 ай бұрын
Fascinating as I don't know if I have ever seriously considered whether the deaf have an inner voice. Comparing language to an operating system.for the brain is a great way to help explain it.
@nekogod
4 жыл бұрын
I suppose it would depend, I'd imagine for people deaf from birth or a young age then no, but people who gradually go deaf or go deaf much later in life they probably do still have an internal monologue
@gualmicol6845
5 жыл бұрын
I think that sign language works better for deaf people because they have a real, live context of communication when they are being taught. As it is being said here, deaf people can sort of think with their inner voices, and they can grasp the idea of sound, even sense the vibrations and know people that are not deaf perceive them as sounds. Presumably you cannot directly link a phoneme, grapheme or hand sign with, say, a smell, but in a real and live, communicative context you can convene and establish a means of representation and referencing.
@Myiops
7 жыл бұрын
some people dont think in words. words are a code used to communicate between humans. but you dont need it to communicate with yourself
@sheilapietila8395
7 жыл бұрын
I used to think without language. I wasn't as good at talking to people (way too much translation to do at a normal speed) and I wasn't as good at remembering arbitrary facts (like words in a language) but I was very good at grasping whole, abstract concepts, even when they were never really explained to me fully, and I could think just fine and come to complex conclusions just fine (I used to always do math in my head at school because it was so much faster, except the teachers kept getting irritated with me for never "showing my work" on the paper. I could explain it fine, it just took effort to translate the concepts into words). I think in English now, instead of whole concepts, so that I can talk to and understand people faster, although I don't learn concepts quite as fast or remember them as well.
@leeroberts9091
5 жыл бұрын
I never even thought of this. Cheers.
@ViridisArborem
7 жыл бұрын
Another interesting part in this is the lack of funding that often still occurs (at least where I live) in bilingual education. I studied sign for three years (I'm not deaf myself) and one of the topics we learnt about was the importance of bilingual education for the majority of deaf people. However there is a huge lack of governmental funding, whereas they still fund and there's more societal awareness/publicizing of oralism education centres. This is a huge issue with so many sign language courses being phased out in my local area, very few of the hearing community knows that there is a problem at all. Also, where I live, I'm pretty sure the shift away from the Milan Congress decision was much more recent, possibly within the last decade. It is still a battle to keep the positive changes and to stop the system from regressing again.
@kennethdehaan
7 жыл бұрын
As a Deaf person, this is spot on!
@kylebrodie5860
7 жыл бұрын
Ive wondered this for years, thanks!
@wordreet
7 жыл бұрын
Around 40% of deaf people also have tinnitus, sometimes severely. And it can happen to those who were deaf from birth! I had partial hearing loss diagnosed 20 or so years ago and also began noticing tinnitus at that time. Even though I hear people talking to me and around me or on screen the tinnitus interferes with what little is heard. But even so, I cannot imagine how it could be for someone profoundly deaf.
@MrDishcat
6 жыл бұрын
i asked my friend this same question thank you for answering it
@bigbrowntau
7 жыл бұрын
Very insightful video. Thank you so much for making this. Your channel becomes more interesting and thought-provoking with each post.
@harleygordon4485
7 жыл бұрын
I love how he keeps comparing brains to computers
@cryptidofthemarshes1680
7 жыл бұрын
I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT THIS THANK YOU SO MUCH
@nip3004
7 жыл бұрын
the thing that most blew my mind was learning most people's inner voice sounds like their own. mine doesn't even use the same speaking patterns 0.o
@mcgibs
7 жыл бұрын
It's fun to try thinking without words, but I can never keep it up for long. It's like being in the mind of a wild animal that can reason.
@debraallen5451
6 жыл бұрын
So interesting never thought of this, better understanding of the deaf helps us hearing to feel comfortable around the deaf
@dakotastein9499
4 жыл бұрын
imagine a deaf schizophrenic...instead of hearing voices in your head,you see random signs in your mind.
@gallagherrutledge9566
7 жыл бұрын
Nice work, Simon!
@yamik1385
7 жыл бұрын
1:13 This reminds me of how Rousseau once thought up the paradox of books/language and human advancement. In order for humans to advance, they need language and knowledge, but they wouldn't have the language and knowledge if they never advanced in the first place. Makes me wonder how humans functioned before language existed, if this time existed at all.
@user-lp3ew1xb5u
7 жыл бұрын
I took 4 semesters of ASL in college ... and believe you me - a lot of deaf people, mostly instructors I met - are very bitter about the hearing world's misguided expectations on them ... and mostly with good reason ... however, as a hearing person - I found this to be a barrier in my education learning their language from them ... not through - I believe, any fault of my own other than my hearing person privilege, I guess.
@anyawillowfan
4 жыл бұрын
Forcing deaf people to only learn spoken language never 'seems reasonable' - in a similar way to left handed people being forced to only use their right hand (this doesn't usually have such a bad affect as forcing deaf people to speak, but now we would never say it 'seems reasonable on the surface').
@b0r0g0ve
5 жыл бұрын
Even deaf people who have never learned any language at all think and comprehend abstract concepts like "freedom" and "tiredness" and can mime a story :) We don't really think in a language. A lot of research indicates there is a certain "mentalese" language, the language of thought, that we all have. "Inner voice" is a thing though, of course, it just doesn't do most of the thinking.
@olivest509
5 жыл бұрын
Before I watch the video, I'm going to say that they probably visualize the physical movements of sign language instead of hearing words in their heads. As a person with dyslexia, I don't hear my thoughts as words most of the time, I think in images, sound effects, movement, and other visualizations that I then have to translate into words if I want other people to understand... which is REALLY hard to do.
@skip123davis
7 жыл бұрын
thank you for helping us understand that!
@JKK782
7 жыл бұрын
Really interesting topic and the video so well made- thank you!
@jnokomis
7 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, like learning any foreign language I translate it into English in my head to understand and from English in that language to speak (I'm sure we all do)
@NicholasWoodley
7 жыл бұрын
Really interesting. Thank you. I've wondered this. It occurred to me when a friend said to me that he thought about what to have for dinner in English and the meaning of life in Greek. Being bilingual it was something that came naturally. I asked why and he said I had no direct translation for certain words. How do the deaf think about things.
@SlimThrull
7 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was way more interesting than I thought it was going to be.
@masterimbecile
7 жыл бұрын
I asked my ASL teacher how people in his dream talks to him, and he said that everyone uses ASL, even though some of the people he knows are not deaf. BTW he was born deaf, but then was fitted with a cochlear implant and learned to speak since he was young.
@edgbarra
6 жыл бұрын
This was so interesting!
@Bibibosh
7 жыл бұрын
BEST ONE SO FAR!!!!!!!
@TonyHammitt
7 жыл бұрын
My inner voice has a much, much cooler voice than I externally have. I don't recognize my own voice at all if I hear it as it was recorded; I couldn't pick it out of a crowd. And its timbre really depends on my mood, I have about a 3 octave comfortable range. So I guess there's not much of a surprise expected that I don't recognize my own voice. So I hope that the deaf people among us can think in the voice that they prefer and express themselves as they wish. I do, even though I don't sound like me to me.
@pabstb.ribbon2850
5 жыл бұрын
So when I was in high school we used to have a military program once a year to honor veterans of war. one year I noticed a 10-12 year old deaf girl sitting in the front row with a woman signing for her. I became extremely focused on their interactions with one another and noticed that the woman signing would constantly have to tap this little girl on the leg to regain her attention on the signs. This would continuously happen ever 5 seconds or so. My question is, other than the fact that she’s a 10 year old girl who doesn’t care about a veterans program, why did she become so easily distracted
@marciabentley9557
7 жыл бұрын
What I have really wondered is how totally deaf people learn to read and write, when spelling relies so much on the ability to perceive sound.
@mageslime
7 жыл бұрын
This should link to the nearly identical todayifoundout.com article written in 2010. Reading it can help process the info better than a mere video.
@gorp27
7 жыл бұрын
Wow, I never realized that there IS a voice in my head till you pointed it out. Got to thinking about it and found a work shop in there also for figuring out mechanical stuff. How does someone that is good at higher math visualize it?
@Orpheelover
7 жыл бұрын
I was actually wondering about this reently. I speculated more that deaf people thought in emotions (I didn't think of sign language). But could learn to use spoken language if they had learn to speak. And they would know what is sounded like considering you should be able to hear your own voice through vibrations of the bones.
@tac6557
6 жыл бұрын
As a hard of hearing guy, we live normally. We can do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING you do. We can shoot big guns, drive fast cars, have hot girls and make all of the G's you can make. Also, deaf dating, you'll last longer with that chick you hearing people break up with over some petty bullshit. Deaf couples will last HELLA lot longer than hearing.
@TheKeksadler
7 жыл бұрын
A similar(-ish) question my friends and I thought about today is how do (if possible at all) people whose eye sight is not flipped perceive the world such as touch and hearing? The main debate was whether or not their other senses would feel upside-down or would the other senses align themselves with the person's vision.
@Xeidasx
7 жыл бұрын
I never even asked myself this question wow
@KhaledTheSaudiHawkII
7 жыл бұрын
It would have been nice if you had provided captions for deaf people since this video is so relevant to them.
@daithiocinnsealach1982
5 жыл бұрын
Imagine raising a tribe of completely deaf people with no sign language in a jungle.
@sharondavis9541
7 жыл бұрын
OMG What an interesting video. I totally get it. Very well presented. 1st time watcher of this site. Now gonna subscribe & watch some more of your videos.
@_epic_dyslexic_
6 жыл бұрын
Wow, I can't believe I've never wondered this. I know its different having happened as a adult but my mom has a hereditary condition that effected her hearing and required surgery while she was active duty in the navy, it didn't go well and she woke up completely deaf in her left ear and progressive hearing loss in her right. I also have hearing loss in my right ear but it isn't clear if it was hereditary or damage from chronic ear infections from a shitty immune system, either way no fun being 25 and constantly not hearing what someone is saying and looking a fool by agreeing to things you shouldn't 😂
@raydaveed
7 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: They all hear a creepy melody in their head but don't know what it is 'cause they never heard anything.
@elisaunderz
4 жыл бұрын
So I’m quite different to other deaf people I personally don’t use sign language at all I prefer to use my speaking voice I’m profoundly deaf but i use the “nuclear 7 cochlear implant” which can use Bluetooth to connect to your iPhone so you can use them like Bluetooth earphones or something like that. I mostly identify myself in the hearing community since a lot of hearing people forget I’m deaf until they notice my implant or when we’re talking about it I never really liked sign language even though my mum used to say that it was beneficial for me and growing closer to the deaf community I just didn’t like the feel of using my hands all the time to speak it was annoying to me but I do know some sign language because I picked it up from my deaf friends I pretty much have hearing friends and only a few deaf friends. UwU
@tashikoweinstein435
7 жыл бұрын
As a hard of hearing person can you do one for the Hard of Hearing Community? please and thank you
@Barbaste
5 жыл бұрын
The Only Oral language method for deaf people does the same as the Only English method that most if not all English Teaching institutions apply - students are unable to understand or communicate bc they are not allowed to use their own language to think, so they don't or can't. Teachers are forced to spend hours trying to make themselves understood with gestures and images when translating words into the students' language takes seconds. Many native English teachers can't speak the students' language anyway, so that makes communication very hard.
@vaylon1701
7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you.
@Barbaste
5 жыл бұрын
Language and thinking are just 2 different words for the same thing. All these words like "integral," "driver" are just metaphors.
@osmada
7 жыл бұрын
I have always wondered about this, interesting video :D
@paulmcfarland6384
5 жыл бұрын
I understand that many dyslexic people think in mostly rich 3D visual terms which they have to translate on-the-fly from and to language at input and output stage if required. Thus gifting many dyslexic people with unique and powerful ways to process the world around them but also leading to what, in the modern world of text, is seen as a specific learning disability. Until a couple of centuries ago, this ability of the dyslexic brain would have conferred a distinct advantage to those individuals and their communities. Indeed as the use of computerised text to speech and speech recognition continues to advance the advantages of visual means of mental processing may again be a real advantage rather than a handicap. Thoughts 💭
@calvinrempel8600
5 жыл бұрын
I started watching this and was wondering if it was silent to make a point... nope... my audio was muted.
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