There is a fade out before the slickness test. I did not want to wait another 3 hours to process the video in the editor. But the test is not impacted. As seen both coating coatings are very similar to each other in application and hydrophobic behavior. Gyeon Mohs Evo for me gets the edge in darkening and hydrophobic behavior. Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light gets the edge in slickness. Both good coatings but for me I like Gyeon Mohs Evo more than Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light. Have any of you used both of these coatings?
@wescat2
Жыл бұрын
Mike of the two which is better to use if applied outside (not in direct sun)?
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Can’t help you there as I have a garage to apply coatings. I would choose Mohs for it’s overall better performance
@wescat2
Жыл бұрын
@@MikeGDetailing I have at least have access to a carport so I can keep it covered for 24-48. Thanks!
@brenthill5596
Жыл бұрын
Mohs vs SiC would be interesting.
@waxmanvids5015
Жыл бұрын
Have used both. Mohs Evo gets the win! Crazy ease of application, water behavior, and gloss!
@Six3SixTay
4 ай бұрын
GEYON MOHS for the win! I just got done ordering a 50mil bottle of it.✅ I’ve been hesitant to pull the trigger on either CSL or GEYON MOHS for a while now, but this video sealed the deal for me! Thanks! Great video/breakdown man.👌🏽
@kuba7875
Жыл бұрын
I am a huge fan of the new gyeon evo coatings,recently i only use gyeon coatings, after watching your video I might try gtechnic ;)
@patrickvennard838
Жыл бұрын
I am three months into Evo on my daily and I am happy with it. In your video EVO and CSL look almost identical it would be interesting to see how well CSL holds up.
@309gti8
6 ай бұрын
I’ve used CSL on a couple vehicles in the past. Last fall I coated my F150 with Pure Evo and I’m really happy with it. I probably have enough left to do my 330i, but I’m leaning towards Mohs Evo just for the sake of trying another product while staying within the same brand.
@MikeGDetailing
6 ай бұрын
Both Pure and Mohs are very good. I actually prefer Mohs Evo after using both. I say gift it a try.
@janitor27
Жыл бұрын
Nice work man. I'm happy that I discovered your work on KZitem. I use only CarPro and Gyeon, so I will be happy seeing more comparison of them in same categories of products.
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Much appreciated. I have to play catch up these next days. I have the new CarPro to showcase as well.
@Normster32
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video 👍. Can’t wait for the Pure and UK video …
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Working on the hood sometime this week to prep it for these two.
@philsandeman2568
6 ай бұрын
Very well demonstrated test, ive always leant towards gtechniq products as ive felt theyve lasted longer. That said i could definitely be converted for price alone If i could be critical CSL really is designed for an exo top coat, be very interested to see a matchup on the full coating systems along with thier post wash performance
@weave4181
Жыл бұрын
I switched over Mohs Evo before installing CSL exo, water spots issue with simple rain and CSL is easy but if make a tiny mistake on the wipe off its not as forgiving as Mohs Evo. Price on Mohs is better in my area as well. 1 layer is very attractive I'm done with multiple steps coatings. Cheers
@gertjan6672
Жыл бұрын
I have Mohs Evo for 9 months on a white Mazda CX5. Still behaves like new! Used de ceramic detailer from Gyeon twice to maintain. Hydrophobicity is still like new. Paint stays slick and very easy to clean. Used cquk 3.0 before this (1,5 years) and the degraded to fast for me. Mohs Evo is way better for me and applying it in one layer was a breeze compared tot the cquk 3.0.
@מדינט
7 ай бұрын
Gtechniq, Carpro, Gyeon, you really can't go wrong with these ceramic coatings, they all preform very well.
@stevel3881
Жыл бұрын
Great test, by looks the Mohs Evo has a slight edge. The sheeting test looked quicker.
@nicorallysport
Жыл бұрын
Very nice duel, excellent review! 👍, I just would have liked maybe a before-after ptg measurement, and a before-after shine measurement, just for fun!. On the hydrophobic side, in my opinion gyeon mohs evo "sheets" a little faster, but very very subtle
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Good idea with the paint gauge.
@Kabeerbaba2
Жыл бұрын
Tried Gyeon mohs on a customer car after years of doing CSL & Evo installs (Gtechniq installer). It's leaps and bounds improved over their original formula. I remember putting 3 layers of the stuff only for the hydrophobics to be gone in 12+ months. Also I remember the water spotting issues. Was the reason I stopped installing Gyeon coatings. I've tried both Cancoat Evo and Mohs Evo and have nothing but good things to say. However these days I'm more inclined towards single coating applications.
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
I know exactly how you feel. Single layer coatings are where it’s at for me as well.
@jefferrrson1x
2 ай бұрын
thanks for the video! can't wait to get GYEON Mohs on my Tesla... just waiting to get a G9 from Griots!
@MikeGDetailing
19 күн бұрын
You will enjoy Mohs. It is Gyeon's best coating.
@ekialkovic4150
Жыл бұрын
Mohs EVO on my daily driven car for 7 months now (circa 15-16k kilometers, that is something like 10k miles)... Car lives outside, bird poops, dirty rains, pretty average maintenance (I use exclusively Gyeon products on my vehicle, but sometimes I washed car after 5-6 days, sometimes after month and a half)... Coating is still same as the first day, EXCEPT in the middle of my hood/bonnet, but that is because my cats sleep there (because of heat of course), and they rubbed it off (so cats 1:0 Mohs EVO haha)... Very smooth application (it was easier for me than any wax I used), and great slickness... Next up for me will probably be Pure EVO on my new (new to me), car that I just got...
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
That’s funny about the cat. Mohs Evo is good.
@shrmtales
10 ай бұрын
Pure stands in a lower position if we are to compare with mohs.
@matsudakodo
3 ай бұрын
Did you try Pure Evo? Did you find it to give a different look as they state?
@ekialkovic4150
3 ай бұрын
@@matsudakodo I put Pure evo last week on my car... It does give a "always wet" look
@thinkforyourself5672
Ай бұрын
I've had both light and ultra on my car. Ultra outperformed the light in every way. It sucks it's not available to consumers
@iorgaemilian8292
Жыл бұрын
thank u for amazing video, but seems Gyeon has better sheet rate and better hydrophobic, realy wanna see chemical test
@pasqualepisani
Жыл бұрын
both seem great.... I slightly favor the slickness for CSL
@SpartanKyuubi
Жыл бұрын
Nice comparison
@MrMicke7406
Жыл бұрын
Have done several tests and Gyeon Mohs Evo lasts much longer time.
@gleamcardetails
Жыл бұрын
Than CQUK 3.0?
@79blustone
Жыл бұрын
If you are planning on both of the additional ceramic layers to both of these iconic brands, especially looking at this comparison in mind- Syncro kit with Gyeon's ''Skin' or Gtechniq's CSL with 'EXO V5' which one is better? Secondly, would that change the outcome of your decision overall? based on both of these brands base layers AND their toppers? making if say, EXO V5 out performed Skin? would the toppers change your mind overall?
@KingRockets
Жыл бұрын
Where is the other video comparing Pure Evo to Cquartz?
@lokiller31
6 ай бұрын
Can you put one year update video, thanks
@MikeGDetailing
6 ай бұрын
I never intended this to be a torture test or yearly update. It’s been polished off for a very long time. The purpose of this video was to show the differences and similarities of the coatings. Gyeon targeted Mohs Evo to be a competitor to CSL.
@lokiller31
5 ай бұрын
Any long term update?
@orthodox1717
Жыл бұрын
Great job, Mike! While not quite as easy to use as both of these, I find UK 3.0 better in every other way.
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. UK is better than these two.
@davida7713
Жыл бұрын
@@MikeGDetailing CqUk 3.0 is 100% not better than mohs evo 😳🤣🤣
@orthodox1717
Жыл бұрын
@@davida7713 without a doubt, 3.0 is better for sure. It’s “harder”, more hydrophobic and more durable.
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
@@davida7713 for me it is. I’ve used it many times. I like what Gyeon did with Mohs Evo because the first version was not good. But CQUK 3.0 for me is better than Gyeon Mohs Evo.
@davida7713
Жыл бұрын
@@orthodox1717 how is it more durable . CqUk is 18-24 months with 2 layers . Mohs evo is 3 years with 1 layer . 🤡
@chesneyman
Жыл бұрын
I'm happy with my Gyoeon Mohs Evo after 8 months. First ceramic coating experience so can't compare to anything. Application was too easy can't get it wrong, Flashes/Beads almost immediately in Houston TX weather. Still rinses dirt easy and beads great to this day. What are your thoughts on the Gyeon Bathe soap compared to Carpro Reset? I prefer the Gyeon myself. Seems to be more suds and slicker feel. Anything else to try out?
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
I like both shampoos. Reset cleans better for me.
@MD-ph9bk
Жыл бұрын
When are you doing the Gyeon Pure Evo vs Carpro CQUK3.0? Thanks
@andylunn5122
Жыл бұрын
Hi I have used gyeon mohs evo for car about 6 months very pleased with the results. Dirt repelancy is excelent evan on my white Mazda. Would have liked before and after results to compare, how much of an effect do you think appling more of the csl has effected the results. Regards Andy
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy. I never tried it by Gtechniq states that CSL won’t bind to itself. I have not polished these off yet so I may be able to add another layer and see what CSL does.
@whitegoodman7465
3 ай бұрын
Armour detail supply Quartz Coating or CSL? both have very similar attributes and Definity want the sweating attribute as its much easier to know when to buff off. Gonna purchase one or the other today. Thanks.
@MikeGDetailing
3 ай бұрын
ADS Quartz is my recommendation over CSL, all day every day. Better performance, hydrophobics, gloss are just a few things better about it. CSL needs Exo to be hydrophobic. Feel free to use my promo code MIKEG to save you some money.
@whitegoodman7465
3 ай бұрын
@@MikeGDetailing Thanks, would there be any issue with the lesser pronounced sweating effect of ADS on non metallic black paint? Heard you say it was tough to see on silver.
@MikeGDetailing
3 ай бұрын
@@whitegoodman7465 you will see it start to haze more so than bead. Once it starts doing that it’s ready for wipe off.
@lokiller31
6 ай бұрын
No update???😢
@MikeGDetailing
6 ай бұрын
I never intended this to be a torture test or an update. Just sharing the similarities and differences between these two products with Gyeon marketing Mohs as a competitor to CSL.
@matsudakodo
3 ай бұрын
Mike we have had the same cars--I had 2 of those Grand Prix' and I had an LS1 Trans Am WS6. Question: do you think coating slickness has any effect on dust attraction, self-cleaning, clogging resistance, etc?
@MikeGDetailing
3 ай бұрын
I don’t believe so. Some say it can affect durability.
@matsudakodo
3 ай бұрын
@@MikeGDetailing thanks man. By the way, where is that caddy from? I really need that in my garage! Most carts take up too much space.
@matsudakodo
3 ай бұрын
I found it by screengrabbing your cart then doing a Google image search. They are on Amazon in case anyone is wondering :)
@matsudakodo
3 ай бұрын
update: it's like the carts from Ikea. I found one at Michael's that has some additional options.
@prostreetcamaro
5 ай бұрын
No comparison for me mohs evo any day of the week. CSL goes flat way to fast for me.
@wescat2
Жыл бұрын
Mike I watched this again. Now that I've had Mohs on for a few months. I read a few times that you use more with Mohs than CSL. Do you find that? Essentially 30mil of CSL is 50mil of Mohs. Any truth to that?
@Justin-ny6un
Жыл бұрын
I installed MOHs Evo end of July, covered about 7-8k miles since. Water behaviour is not as good as the first few months. Beading is still nice and tight. But the water used to clear off the car whilst driving, so the car would be dry after driving in the rain, now it hangs around.Gyeon Trim on the lower of the car is pretty dead after the same time. Gave it a wash with Reset/Descale a few weeks ago and Restart and Iron this week. Hasn’t really made it any better. Application was spot on, after polishing, cleaned with Feynlab Pure Rinseless and Gyeon Prep. Car didn’t get wet for two weeks after application. No water spots really from what I could see prior to descale. I expect it will be pretty dead after UK winter. Will try a CarPro coating next year, and will transition all my Gyeon stuff over to CarPro as I use them up. Too much marketing and under delivering from Gyeon.
@davida7713
Жыл бұрын
Gyeon mohs evo is much better than gtechniq csl . Looks gloss water behaviour . Thro gyeon mohs evo durability is piss poor as it failed at 9 months on my own car . Both coatings I would simply avoid
@davida7713
Жыл бұрын
@@connoisseurdetails nothing amazing with gtechniq csl . Water behaviour for a start is shocking …
@davida7713
Жыл бұрын
@@connoisseurdetails I think you need to use them again 😂🤣🤣
@davida7713
Жыл бұрын
@@connoisseurdetails many have tested both & mohs evo is streets ahead of csl . 9h or not it’s a old coating now & has awful water behaviour & if u can’t see that then ur a disillusional gtechniq fan boy . 🤡
@CS_Detailing
9 ай бұрын
@@connoisseurdetails 9 years of detailing and you talking about 3h and 9h hardness 😅 that's only commercial .
@connoisseurdetails
9 ай бұрын
@biggiemk6785 dude stop !Hardness is the crucial parameter in understanding the structural stability of a material you use, whether it in the form of a coating or a solid mass. Specifically, hardness is the relative measure of superficial physical strength of solid material when external mechanical force is applied, not everyone would follow this so you speak in terms of "h" so you don't look like a dick 🤔 🫡
@iorgaemilian8292
Жыл бұрын
Hello, nice video...but i want to see real chemical resistence like Car Pro Multi X, because i saw some test Exo died before Gyeon Pure(both are 2 years durability), don't know about CSL or Ultra Gtechniq.
@edturnerdetroit3
Жыл бұрын
Just helped me make the decision to go with Mohs.
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. You will be happy with Mohs.
@jaydubba
Жыл бұрын
Hey @Mike G , what's the brand of that hose nozzle you're using @18:00? If you got a link, that would be awesome. Thanks!
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
It’s this one. Solid brass and pretty stout. With the money www.eleyhosereels.com/products/garden-hose-spray-nozzle-sets
@COC785
Жыл бұрын
Like to see Mohs vs Car Pros SiC. I wonder which one has the most slickness?
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
SiC is the slicker of the two.
@sirliftsalot1154
Жыл бұрын
Mohs versus Carpro SiC. Which one would you want on your car? I'm leaning toward SiC for the slickness and contact angle but I currently have Can Coat EVO on the car.
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
If those two aspects is what you’re looking for then get SiC. SiC can be tricky with the long flash times. Mohs will sweat but has a shorter flash time. CanCoat will have to be polished off.
@aaronriddle1604
Жыл бұрын
Way more clarity with gyeon
@gibon1337
Жыл бұрын
Have you tried applying mohs evo on glass surfaces? I'm about to coat my car and I wonder if I can also coat the sunroof glass with it
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Sure you can use it in any glass surface other than the front glass.
@muhammaduzair2042
Жыл бұрын
What hose setup/system is this? I really like the shower head pattern and flow! Is it pressurized system?
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Standard garden hose. www.eleyhosereels.com/products/garden-hose-spray-nozzle-sets
@muhammaduzair2042
Жыл бұрын
@Mike G Thank you
@TheMstwntdLMSV123
Жыл бұрын
I put CSL on my moms car about 6 months ago and the water behavior is already significantly impacted on the lower panels. What do you recommend for decon? I’m hesitant to go in too heavy because I tried CarPro Spotless to remove some water spots and it completely removed the coating in one spot, so I had to re prep and reapply
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Give the 3 pH wash a try and see if it revives it. Labocosmetica has a good video on their channel on how to do it. You can do the same with CarPro products. Invest in Lift, Reset and Descale. Foam with Lift. You can mix it a little stronger for the lower areas and pre-spray Rinse Foam with Descale Wash with Reset Rinse Iron Remover Rinse Top up if needed with the topper of your choice
@t0mbolone
Жыл бұрын
Hello, can i reuse microfiber towels after i used gyeon mohs? i put it after application into warm wather with APC, then wash it. Thanks :) Happy new year.
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year. Use those towels for other areas like door jambs. The towels will become hydrophobic and not absorb water that well.
@verduzcoautodetailing3183
Жыл бұрын
Which one do you recommend for mobile detailer? If we do them in sunlight
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
That is going to be hard to answer as most coatings are not sunlight friendly. It would be best to find some shade to apply them. Gyeon coatings are outdoor friendly with the caveat to top them with Gyeon Cure. Gyeon also has their Flash coating that is available to mobile detailers. I don't know what it takes to be authorized to install it. If you do use one in direct sun the flash times will be fast as the panel is hot.
@bbdetailing9123
Жыл бұрын
So similar
@wolfusa2002
Жыл бұрын
As a single coating, Mohs Evo is better. However with CSL and EXO, i’ve found it to be slicker and glossier than Gyeon Mohs Evo + Skin (Synchro)
@BigBear--
Жыл бұрын
Was that with EXO V4 ot V5? I'm curious cause i'm currently debating between CSL + EXO V5 vs Gyeon Mohs Evo + Skin vs Carpro CQ3.0 UK + Gliss.
@BigBear--
Жыл бұрын
Oh, and either of those 3 options are going on a 2023 Boost Blue Civic Type-R.
@wolfusa2002
Жыл бұрын
@@BigBear-- Exo V4 and V5. V5 is easier since it’s just one coat. I haven’t used UK3.0, but i think either of those 2 would be better than the synchro. It’s just not very slick compared to CSL and Exo. I used Carpro dlux + gliss on my wheels, and gliss made it very slick. So i’m guessing it will be comparable to CSL + EXO.
@BigBear--
Жыл бұрын
@@wolfusa2002 it's just weird to me that Pan the Organizers named the Synchro combo best of 2023, over CSL + V5, and CQ3.0 + Gliss.
@BigBear--
Жыл бұрын
@@wolfusa2002 By weird I mean, why would he say it's better than, if it's really not.
@christianalt8847
7 ай бұрын
on average how long should you let CSL to flash?
@MikeGDetailing
7 ай бұрын
As soon as you see it doing the sweating effect it is time to wipe off.
@MarcYanOfficial
5 ай бұрын
What hose gun are you using?
@MikeGDetailing
5 ай бұрын
It is this one from Eley. www.eleyhosereels.com/products/garden-hose-spray-nozzle-sets?variant=31870837424199
@kingranch8516
Жыл бұрын
Just put csl for the second time. In a couple years I’ll have to try geyeon
@kingranch8516
Жыл бұрын
Nice vid by the way
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
@@kingranch8516 thanks. You will like Mohs when you try it. It’s better than CSL
@famip3679
Жыл бұрын
How about adams graphene adv
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Hmm good idea to compare both Adams graphene coatings. Their advanced version is the better of the two graphene coatings.
@grissom.
Жыл бұрын
How do you think CarPro cquarts compares to mohs evo in regarded to sheeting/hydroponic and looks? Thanks for your review on these coatings Edit- also on the fence about trying shine supply beedlock pro and marine pro combo as well. I can’t decide between mohs evo, uk3.0, and beedlock. What’s your thoughts?
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
For me UK 3.0 checks all the boxes and is still my go to coating. Mohs Evo is a good option and Gyeon got this one right and I would have this as #2 from the coatings you asked about. Mohs will be slicker than both UK and Beadlock. Beadlock is a good coating as well. Not as durable as UK from my testing but overall it is good. I have not used the marine combo. UK will be more hydrophobic and have tighter water beading. Sheet rate is about the same as Mohs Evo. Mohs did a better job repelling soap when I use the pump foamer to and add soap to the surface.
@grissom.
Жыл бұрын
@@MikeGDetailing thank you mike. Big fan of the channel
@BigBear--
Жыл бұрын
What would you say between the combo coatings? GTechniq CSL + EXO V5 vs Gyeon Mohs Evo + Skin?
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Based on my experience using both combinations I would just go with Mohs Evo as a stand alone.
@BigBear--
Жыл бұрын
@@MikeGDetailing Problem is the constant water spotting if you live in rain prone areas. At least that's been my experience with other bare ceramic coatings, without any toppers or graphene.
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
@@BigBear-- I am not a fan of Gtechniq coatings. I do not think they are that great. Sure they are easy to work with but their overall performance is rather lackluster for me. I like my coatings to be hydrophobic and this is where Crystal Serum Light comes up short. It tends to sheet more than bead. Perhaps this is what you are looking for in your area for a coating to not have that tight water beading. In order to get that water beading, Exo has to be applied. I have not used V5 and I do not plan to. V3 was good and V4 was not good. Gyeon Synchro Evo is better than the previous version but Skin Evo still falls short in its overall performance. And yes it takes away from the slickness of Mohs but slickness is not that important to everyone. Mohs Evo by itself performs better than Syncro. You can always top it with something like Gyeon ceramic detailer or Cure. If you want to stay within the Gyeon family then Gyeon themselves states Pure to have better resistance to water spotting. Another coating to consider is Cquartz SiC as that has better resistance to water spotting than Uk per CarPro. UK topped with SiC is a great combination. As you stated you an always go the graphene route with something like the Adams Advanced, DIY Detail 3 year Graphene. Me personally I have moved away from multi-layer coatings and have moved onto single layer applications.
@BigBear--
Жыл бұрын
@@MikeGDetailing Great, this is the info I was looking for. How to you feel about CarPro Gliss? I only ask as I already have a new bottle of Gliss sitting around since our move and haven't had a chance to apply it. I also have like 5 x 30ml kits of Avalon King Armor Shield IX. I was originally planning on using Armor Shield topped with Carpro Gliss. But now considering maybe CQ 3.0 UK, topped with Gliss. It's not about the money for me so much, as I have other cars I can throw these coatings on, that are my families cars. For me however I care about overall performance from a DIY coating (these will be applied to my Boost Blue 2023 Civic Type-R). Have you tried Gliss? Which combo for CarPro would you go with? CQ 3.0 + Gliss, or SiC + Gliss? Or is there something else you'd recommend?
@BigBear--
Жыл бұрын
@@MikeGDetailing Sorry I forgot you mention CQ 3.0 topped with SiC. Would that be better than CQ 3.0 topped with Gliss?
@georgesnyder5337
Жыл бұрын
That's not how Mohs is supposed to be installed (cross pattern).
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
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@Shadowlazyj
Жыл бұрын
Geon món seem better
@sergiobarraza1806
Жыл бұрын
Best comparison? Put them on a real car, drive it thru and there you go 😊
@hartlanddetailer5670
Жыл бұрын
Are these products made in the USA?
@MikeGDetailing
Жыл бұрын
No they are not. Cquartz is made in Korea and Gtechniq in the UK
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