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@lonemarkkingoftypos3722
Жыл бұрын
Hey cone, how bout looking to the American T110 designs? Yes the E3, E4 and E5 of WoT's.
@sovietdominion
Жыл бұрын
the delete post image thing label the vehicle as Ho RI-I
@GHOST-ns7hv
Жыл бұрын
The japanese TD's were first introduced in wotb 3 years ago
@Leefjuice4005
Жыл бұрын
isn't Ka-To just bigger Na-To?
@raffaputracv9487
Жыл бұрын
@@lonemarkkingoftypos3722 don't forget T110HT (E6) from tank company,T110e5 with slope frontal armor and better engine similar to M48 engine
@stokypetrenko3843
Жыл бұрын
could be definitely interesting to also look into czechoslovak heavies and how real those are
@richardaubrecht2822
Жыл бұрын
That would be a short look.
@deptusmechanikus7362
Жыл бұрын
As real as dirty napkins they were drawn on as a joke
@Makrelacz
Жыл бұрын
There was never heavy tank program in Czechoslovakia, so its all fake. Only heavy tank we "developed" was Tiger with 75mm autoloading gun.
@panzerlite8108
Жыл бұрын
@@Makrelacz |Tell me more about that Tiger please
@Makrelacz
Жыл бұрын
@@panzerlite8108 Durring the WW2 Czechs has made a project of medium tank called T-25. It was never build as Germans had no interest in it. But the autoloading gun, which was designed for it (Skoda A18), was built after the war and tested by mounting it to one of the Tigers Germans were so generous to leave behind.
@sgador
Жыл бұрын
the Chi-To SP was most likely made as it is for tech tree homogenous gameplay style as if the Ka-To was used if would have the only open top turreted in the whole line
@jwenting
Жыл бұрын
I see a premium Ka-To in the future... $100
@nekophht
Жыл бұрын
When I first heard Chi-To SP, I thought of the vehicle from WT. But that's the Chi-Ha LG, I think. So, they could have TWO open top turreted vehicles in the line. ;)
@Yautah
Жыл бұрын
Same for the guns I guess, 105mm at T10 isn't really something most ppl would enjoy.
@ianpartrick8347
Жыл бұрын
@@Yautah It would have to have incredible handling stats and a really quick reload for a 105 on an open top TD to be worth it at 10
@RedXlV
Жыл бұрын
@@jwenting Or possibly a second branch for turreted TDs with the Na-To and Ka-To, and the Komatsu B78 105GSR. And whatever fictional vehicle Wargaming might invent to fill Tier 10 (probably a Type 61 hull with fictional "120GSR" turret). And the Chi-Ha Long Gun could be the premium turreted TD.
@arcanaxiii6665
Жыл бұрын
I recall Jingles featured a replay about a month ago with the main player in a Ho-Ni III, and he was railing on it about being "a 3rd version of a tank that didn't exist." I am pleased you managed to correct that.
@ConeOfArc
Жыл бұрын
I like jingles but he does make some silly mistakes in his videos from time to time. Iirc he called the Maus fake in one
@DivineDawn
Жыл бұрын
He does admit he’s crap, bless him.
@inductivegrunt94
Жыл бұрын
The Japanese TDs really aren't that bad looking at it, tier 8 to 10 kinda stretch it a lot though. But the Tier 5 and 6 TDs were pretty good, especially with Tier 5 actually existing as it is depicted in game. Honestly I think Tier 3 to 7 is the best range of tiers for historical tanks with Tiers one and two being filled by concepts, early interwar prototypes, or lighter tanks that were outdated by WW2. Tier 8 has hit or miss tanks depending on the nation, and Tier 9 and 10 are pretty much they either actually existed or were complete fabrications by Wargaming.
@yi_hou3092
Жыл бұрын
the Chi-To is so Obviously fake they couldl've used the Na-To and I would've been accepting of it
@rcrawford42
Жыл бұрын
They should have given it a bright orange skin.
@Kethploy
Жыл бұрын
If they use Na-To, it's gonna one of the most painful vehicle to play in the game
@LilithFonGyotte
Жыл бұрын
@@Kethploy maybe Na-To will be comfortable at 3-4 tier
@pneumonianakey
Жыл бұрын
cheeto
@BROTHERHOOD_OF_NOD1995
Жыл бұрын
Flamen hot chi-to
@nul_point
Жыл бұрын
The funniest thing about this tech tree is actually not the tanks, but their ammo
@raimuu14
Жыл бұрын
sPeCiAl aP rOuNdS
@derimeri21
Жыл бұрын
I think the reason for Wargaming being more on the fiction side now, is that all the major tanks are already in World of Tanks. But it is still a shame they have to do it like they now are.
@iToxicMochi
Жыл бұрын
It really isn't a shame. All of their worldbuilding and event lore is very alt history/ scifi/ supernatural.
@zairukoonxom4797
Жыл бұрын
Some of us want to see some concept design in action, it's being dissed by "realistic" players. WoT never been realistic, never been
@cikuI00
Жыл бұрын
@@zairukoonxom4797 and there is nothing wrong about it
@jimjamauto
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what you were expecting of a game where you've always been able to get kills by jumping on top of another tank
@cikuI00
Жыл бұрын
@@jimjamauto and there is nothing wrong with it too
@harbinger9110
Жыл бұрын
A little disappointed the Japanese TD line was added well after Wargaming ditched low tier TDs, would've been neat to see the Type 5 Ho-Ru in the game. Very little documentation on it exists much like the Ho-Ris but that hasn't stopped Wargaming before, and it's not stopping them now.
@PianoGuitarAndSongs
Жыл бұрын
They'll be adding more soon
@LighthouseCape
Жыл бұрын
Ho-Ri reminds me of that infamous person, going far as providing forged documents to get the idea through...and Warthunder falling for it.
@anotheryoutubeidiot8785
Жыл бұрын
These aren't all brand new, the tier 7-10 tanks have been in blitz for years now, but the first two are both new and exclusive to pc afaik. The only difference in the trees is their layout, with the type 2 being tier 9 and type 1 tier 10. You should also probably cover the polish heavy tanks now that they've been out for a while, I personally think that the first two (40/45tp habicha) are the most realistic designs within their line while the rest are mainly fictional.
@cikuI00
Жыл бұрын
If I'm not wrong there was some simple drawings for tier VII 45TP Habicha, and I saw somewhere drawing of the turret for 53TP Markowskiego, 50TP Tyszkiewicza and 60TP Lewandowskiego from what I found are completely fictional speaking about design, but there were some assumptions made, for example gun caliber, frontal amour thickness and engine power.
@anotheryoutubeidiot8785
Жыл бұрын
@@cikuI00 probably made by wargaming, if I'm not mistaken they tend to make fake blueprints for their fake tanks to tease them sometimes
@cikuI00
Жыл бұрын
@@anotheryoutubeidiot8785 I wouldn't be that sure about that, Polish community digged everywhere just to find something, but at the same time it's not impossible that somebody just made up most of the data, and even WG got rolled out.
@WelcomeToDERPLAND
Жыл бұрын
I actually laughed when I saw how cartoonishly large that gun is on the Ho-ri, lmao
@PHOENIX-5100
Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: The Japanese TD were first introduced in Worlds of Tanks Blitz and its a Underrated Tank Unlike in PC the WoTB Jap TDs doesnt have a full line like in the game you begin with the Chi To SPG in Tier VII and you make it to the Last 3 Ho Ri The Ho Ri III being the Tier X instead of the Ferdinand looking one Its considered to be Underrated in WoTB cause they didn't explain how Shell normalization work but seriously the Premium shell of the Ho-Ri can butter through a Maus and has a very troll armor which is frustrating when fighting it from long range
@sekai2914
Жыл бұрын
I mean the armor is troll and that, but the amount of penetration and reload the Ho-ri III (ferdinand looking one) has in blitz is technically crazy, having more premium pen than a JGe100. Sadly the reality, for me, is that the tank is just a troll armor glass canon.
@PHOENIX-5100
Жыл бұрын
@@sekai2914 its really a Hit or miss when your playing it Offensively Your basically going to be a FV 183 which heavily relies on your team to make those enemies pop out of their hiding spots However in a Defense.... Ohoho you gonna have much fun because of the Reload of the Ho Ri
@yi_hou3092
Жыл бұрын
not all the time, I actually use this thing as a close quarters support occasionally and it's so funny to see people so confused why a Ho-Ri III is able to bully a few mediums in 10 seconds flat
@Myomer104
Жыл бұрын
Huh. More historically accurate than I was expecting.
@SonaNerikov
Жыл бұрын
The Japanese tank destroyers was taken from the blitz property. The tanks previously exist in blitz, but they placed it in the console version, with some changes. You should add the blitz version as well. Sad you didn't include it
@anotheryoutubeidiot8785
Жыл бұрын
Blitzs Japanese tds start at tier 7, so it would've been a much shorter video if he had used that tree
@SonaNerikov
Жыл бұрын
@@anotheryoutubeidiot8785 "included it as well" means aside from the console version I asked him to mention the blitz version in the video.
@anotheryoutubeidiot8785
Жыл бұрын
@@SonaNerikov he already covered them, it's the exact same tanks from tier 7 onwards with only a minor difference of two tanks swapping places
@SonaNerikov
Жыл бұрын
@@anotheryoutubeidiot8785 probably, but it wouldn't hurt though if he included it. Although it's up to him to do it or not, I think he hasn't yet look on the origin of these tanks. Which is unfortunate.
@SonaNerikov
Жыл бұрын
@@anotheryoutubeidiot8785 also he didn't talk about the armour thickness and how accurate it is, or even another components like the engine placement and crew layout. I think this video is too short tbh
@hypernova3527
Жыл бұрын
One thing that I loved when I played WoT were realistic battles events made by the community. You basically made a predetermined layout of vehicles based on how many tanks each army had at X time, and you could only use them with realistic modules. I recall playing a match with a Panther, where the team was 1 Tiger, 3 Panthers and a mix of Pz IV (modules based on the ausf. G) and StuG III G. It was usually unbalanced, given how WoT works, but still funny.
@ProtoFinn
Жыл бұрын
I hope you could make one about the new Czech heavy tanks in World of Tanks Blitz
@nvduceii
Жыл бұрын
The entire czech heavy line is fake, they took mid cold war soviet tanks and made "possible guesses" into what they would have been had they been designed as heavy tanks. vz55's turret is based on the t-62m with a raised cupola. the vz 51 has a stock turret based on the t-55 while its top turret is a t-55am turret with an elongated back, presumably to make room for the autoloader(on pc, at least). The skoda t56 is a n interesting spin on the early t-54 mod 1947 with the gunner sight from later models also slapped on. The tnh 105/1000, meanwhile, maybe a one of the variants for the tvp project that ckd made, or was a spin based on the tvp vtu(which is also part of the same project). Or it was a design by praga, also in the same TVP project and was designsted TNH tA(no clue what it means)
@ProtoFinn
Жыл бұрын
@@nvduceii yoo thanks for all this. I already thought they were fake, but this explains a lot
@Chris.K.M
Жыл бұрын
Plus the czech heavy tanks also existed on pc even before blitz
@ProtoFinn
Жыл бұрын
@@Chris.K.M so did the Japanese TDS in WoTB..
@Chris.K.M
Жыл бұрын
@veliijzendoorn5976 yeah that was strange
@Russão000
Жыл бұрын
New Jap TDS? This Guys was Olds Asf in WOT Blitz
@marcin5165
Жыл бұрын
Can you analyze Italian tank destroyers from World of Tanks next?
@stayhungry1503
Жыл бұрын
they are real, at least some of them. the semovente was on par with the stug and saw action.
@adanenedary7350
Жыл бұрын
After tier 7 they aren't real
@Mustache_Sam
Жыл бұрын
@@adanenedary7350 Wait, so the tier 7 is?😮😮😮 I thought the 7 to 10 were all fabrications.
@theonlymann1485
Жыл бұрын
tier 5 6 real and then rest are fabricated from mbt-70 lolz
@Chris.K.M
Жыл бұрын
The japanese tank destroyers already existed on world of tanks blitz, funny since you mentioned about the japanese heavy tank line on blitz, anyway the differences that i noticed between pc and blitz is that the tier 7 chi-to sp is kinda named weird since the blitz version it's called chi-to SPG (meaning Self Propelled Gun), also the tier 10 and 9 were switched, it kinda irritates me since the tier 9 (on blitz it's the tier 10 ho-ri type 3) the tank could fit a more bigger gun than the tier 10 ho-ri 3
@D4rkn3ss2000
Жыл бұрын
I love how the Japanese TDs are more real than the Chinese TDs.
@yi_hou3092
Жыл бұрын
I played the World of Tanks Blitz versions of the Ho-Ri and all of them are given an odd designation the Jagdtiger Style Fighting compartment is called the Type 1 the Angular Rear Mount is called the Type 2 and the Ferdinand/Elefant Style compartment is called the Type 3 honestly seeing them mount the 149mm Canon on the tier 9 and 10 has to be the most internally difficult concerning the Breach of each of the guns and the recoil it would've handled also the Tier 8 using the 127mm also sounds dumb too despite the gun being real too, the breach would've made it cramp too
@junior_emer2
Жыл бұрын
You forgot the Type 5 Ka-Ri the premium one
@barrybend7189
Жыл бұрын
Hey can you look at the tanks and "mobile tanks" of Mobile Suit Gundam. For example the Type 61 mbt, Zaku Tank, Hldolfr, Guntank and Assault Guntank of the UC Gundam timeline. The game Gundam Battle Operation 2 has them.
@Sleepy.Time.
Жыл бұрын
i don't mind fake tanks in world of tanks as long as they are semi balanced aka not Waffle E100s
@halo99yo
Жыл бұрын
The Ho-Ris also have way more hull armour in game compared to the Chi-Ri. Would up armouring the casemate TD's hulls been a realistic possibility?
@RoadRunnerdn
Жыл бұрын
The Chi-To SP seems to be based on the "Chi-Ri tank destroyers". However how real they actually are seems up in the air.
@steffent.6477
Жыл бұрын
You can build some vehicles as close to history as possible for Example the more well know tanks like Shermans, Tigers, Panthers etc. But then they would just be bad at the game or at least much more difficult to play.
@DuneRunnerEnterprises
Жыл бұрын
Excellent,so much information you had to go through!!!
@T-34-85M
Жыл бұрын
Actually, the first appearance of this in Wargamming was in WOT Blitz with a more realistic (Ho Ri Type I,ll,lll) Line, just like the Yoh line
@miniraptor3211
Жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of this could be explained by adding fake in game lore, like at the start of the fictional war in game, Japan swapped out the 105 for a 149 and there would be little confusion over what's going on. Doesn't even have to be a smartly named war, could just be WW12 or the Global Revolution or something
@Ash007YT
Жыл бұрын
Japan tanks ahh yes those things that tank tank
@turtledovechen176
Жыл бұрын
I think they should just add a tag system for historical and finctional, like what Warthunder have for skin In Warthunder every skin have a tag telling players that the skin is historical, semi historical or finctional Although Gaijin also mess up the tag system by labeling most skin semi historical which mean nothing, but I think the system itself is good
@Hybris51129
Жыл бұрын
I think with WoT they know that they lean more towards arcade rather than sim so it's harder to justify the extra effort of trying to provide a historically accurate product. That sort of thing is more likely to be done by War Thunder since being (somewhat) historically accurate is something they have pushed harder on.
@Fretti90
Жыл бұрын
The issue is not that they have made up tanks but that they try to pass them off as real life designs when they are completely made up. If they just said "This is a concept tank that we designed that we believe could had been an evolution of this tank" or something along those lines then it would all be fine. But what they are doing now is more tricking people into believing that some of these made up tanks existed. I believe that a lot of people get interested in tanks because of games like War thunder and WoT and having them get inaccurate information passed on as real is not the best way to start learning about tanks.
@DIREWOLFx75
Жыл бұрын
As long as someone has made a concept drawing or a written description, it's historical enough. And for a game like WoT, sure, why not? It would be very boring sticking only with stuff that was actually built or even worse, only those taken into active service.
@DIREWOLFx75
Жыл бұрын
@@Fretti90 No, that's the thing, they almost never take something that is "COMPLETELY made up", they're just very free in how they interpret stuff that might have a single halffinished drawing or maybe a vague "how about this" PM sent to a boss somewhere sometime and never taken further. Those are not made up, they're fictional in STATS, not in existance, because someone did think them up.
@anotheryoutubeidiot8785
Жыл бұрын
@@DIREWOLFx75 warhammer tanks are completely fictional, most of their premiums have only a loose grasp on real tanks, and half of them are only realistic in naming, they have an entire tech tree branches that are completely made up, as well as a batch of premiums that are all their own creations. TLDR: wargaming has and will continue making fake tanks for as long as their game makes money.
@Fretti90
Жыл бұрын
@@DIREWOLFx75 So i made a pretty long reply on the matter but when i watched the clip again i think Cone really sums up my feelings on the matter pretty well at 5:40 so watch that again to see how i feel about it. I will leave the "reply" at the bottom if you want to read it. "As long as someone has made a concept drawing or a written description, it's historical enough." - But look at the Tier 9 and Tier 10 in the video. As far as i understand it, no plans were made or designed for the Ho-ri to mount those guns with the Tier 10 version not even having a gun that existed. Thats not historical, thats just made up. "And for a game like WoT, sure, why not? It would be very boring sticking only with stuff that was actually built or even worse, only those taken into active service. " - That is fine, its their game they can do what they want. But make it clear in the descriptions that its a fictional tank so that people do not believe that these were built or designed. Because the way they phrase it in the descriptions it make it sound like there is evidence for a lot of these designs. Watch Cone's video on Japanese tanks in WoT Blitz, he sums it up well there as well on how they make it seem like many of their fictional designs existed. I just want to make it clear, i have no issue with the tanks being fictional or just "a vague pm to a boss", i would just want them to be absolutely clear in the descriptions that "There is little to no evidence that this existed" or "This is a 'what if' that we made up based off of..." etc.
@T29Heavy
Жыл бұрын
Man Wargaming shoulda have added a feature where player's can design tanks using modules, turrets, hulls, tracks, and cannons since wargaming already make fictional tanks, tanks that never existed, slapping cannons on tanks that aren't even proposed for it, cannons that defeats the purpose of the tank, engines that wasn't meant to be mounted, making tanks from a paragraph, making up stats for tanks where it's records of it's armor and performance specification Aren't known, putting random turrets on tanks, incorrect classifcation for tanks, autoloader on tanks that never was designed to have one, and making some inaccurate historical info for tanks and just passing it off as historically accurate
@khoile976
Жыл бұрын
The Chi-To’s insanely OP in the game, so it doesn’t bother me too much. I love playing it
@sekai2914
Жыл бұрын
I mean, technically Japanese TD's are originally from World of Tanks Blitz and I don't know why they switched the tier 9 and tier 10 tanks.
@johnnymigouel7228
Жыл бұрын
The armour layout on the wotpc tier 10 is better than that of the wotb tier 10 so they switched them
@sekai2914
Жыл бұрын
@@johnnymigouel7228 I mean yeah, but wasn't it that the tier 9 had troll armor? the tier 9 in blitz (WotPC tier 10) as far as I know is slower than the tier 10 (tier 9 in PC) the traverse is Worse and the velocity it's too unless they changed the values there. Also, is the Tier 10 in WoT PC penentration the same as blitz?
@generalcat7678
Жыл бұрын
Since you did a video on the AAT I assume Syfy is allowed so I want you to check out the mammoth tank from command and conquer
@burningtank160
Жыл бұрын
Can you do italian TDs? Theyre obviously fake but maybe they took inspiration from some blueprint designs
@kirishima638
Жыл бұрын
Well at least Wargaming acknowledges that the Japanese tree exists.
@JP-dz5oj
Жыл бұрын
Going to assume the Ka-Ri is almost entirely fabricated.
@Engineering240
9 ай бұрын
I also like playing the tanks in their historical configuration. Typically I can achieve this with a few minutes on Google and then mounting the appropriate components. The game is of course about balance and arcade-like fun. So I understand that the historical components may not be the most powerful components (typically the real engine is the base engine).
@g.tropicsun1029
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for including English subtitles in the video.
@Vrey662
Жыл бұрын
most of the tanks in WOT re fantasy tanks designed on a napkin after a few drinks in a bar in Mink; even that they anounce the game as a "realistic tank game" it has nothing to do with real tanks or real physics adding to that theres a 25% rng for penetration and damage, the game is more like a ground armored combat
@nookbandit
Жыл бұрын
Throw in noob players like yourself and your points are more valid
@EVILFORESTs
Жыл бұрын
I guess the next line is going to be open top TDs with the Type 4 Ha-To as an Tier 10 TD :). would be fun... yes, i know it's rocket artillerie
@kosztypatrik7028
Жыл бұрын
I can't wait on Italian TDs for another Fake Tank Friday episode.
@i_nameless_i-jgsdf
Жыл бұрын
While there were three different designs for the Ho-Ri but there was no Ho-Ri III ! The Ho-Ri with rear superstructure that resembled the Elephant tank destroyer were both the Ho-Ri I but they existed in different configurations namely the first version that existed as mockup was purposed with sloped armor, while the second version was to remove the sloped armor to keep the hull mounted 37 mm gun just like the Chi-Ri. The Ho-Ri II, the selected variant for mass-production resembled the Jagdtiger tank destroyer with superstructure placed in the center, it would not have sloped armor because they wanted to keep the 37mm for secondary armament, it would also be equipped with twin 20mm Type 4 AA gun mounted on the back above the engine deck similar to how the MG-42 is mounted on the engine deck of Jagdtiger. Ho-Ri I Alt.1 = rear mounted casemate with sloped armor. Ho-Ri I Alt.2 = rear mounted casemate without sloped armor and equipped with hull mounted type 1 3,7cm gun. Ho-Ri II = center mounted casemate without sloped armor, equipped with hull mounted type 1 3.7 cm gun and a twin type 4 20mm AA gun. Btw it is weird that none of the Ho-Ri in WoT got access to the historical Type 5 10cm gun that was developed just for the Ho-Ri project, not even as a stock gun, really WeeGee ? Regarding why they didn't bother with the Ka-To is probably because they wanted this as a heavy TD branch so that is why not even the real vehicle like Na-To is in the TT because it is a soft skinned TD just like the Ka-To, but maybe they could be added in a altenative TD branch ? but you can bet that they might be added them as premium instead cuz ''i love money !'' ....
@TheOwneroftheIC
Жыл бұрын
They'll probably make a second, turreted line with the Na-To the way they did with Germany.
@StefanAmarisDidNothingWrong
Жыл бұрын
You forgot the tier 8 premium with an autoloader equipped 20 cm cannon called the Ho-Ri-Shet
@OverFlowWater
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: in blitz the hori 1 is the tier x and hori 3 is ix and they have the gun swapped
@patm3892
Жыл бұрын
Chi-to sp is the best in the line in wot gameplay. I love it. The Ji-ro is a total hunk of .....
@ToshioThunder
Жыл бұрын
The prototype was pushed into a lake, so we built another prototype which burned down, got bombed, and then fell into the lake.
@ConeOfArc
Жыл бұрын
"No you can't go look for it in the lake which we pushed it into"
@jwenting
Жыл бұрын
the recoil of that 145mm gun would blow that thing end over end...
@SMV-CC88
Жыл бұрын
You could make a compilation video of every hybrid nation
@sim.frischh9781
Жыл бұрын
Problem with making a game based on historical tanks is that sooner or later you will run out of tanks that were actually build at one point in time. Both Wargaming and Gaijin happily kept introducing tanks that never left the drawing board or are pretty much made up entirely.
@Maximilian7992
Жыл бұрын
Should do a video on WoT’s T110 tanks.
@akeikosumeragi4769
Жыл бұрын
Hello, this is Daigensui, the one who designed the original Japanese tank tree and also drafted the TD branch. In general this video was on point, except the Chi-To SPG. We do have documenation of the project from 1942. Ka-To: I planned it to be a premium vehicle, but apparently that was canned or something in favor of what is now Ka-Ri. I had to pull strings with The_Chieftain to change it to that name instead of the original Ho-To. As for the guns, yeah, it's just one of those things I gave up on in between someone in Minsk having a large caliber fetish, and game balance purposes. While I'm no longer working with WG, I'm still playing the game and whatnot.
@andika.nugroho
Жыл бұрын
Can you tell me more about Chi-To SP project?
@ConeOfArc
Жыл бұрын
I unfortunately had no way to verify the Chi To SP as nothing regarding it came up during my searches. Someone did share some drawings showing a similar looking vehicle but it was under a different name. I would love to see the documentation of the project as it doesn't seem to be easy to find elsewhere
@wertbe1718
Жыл бұрын
I've only ever played wot blitz, and I'm a little surprised blitz had the japanese TDs years before the pc version did. Something else too, the tier 9 and 10 in the blitz line are swapped around in the pc version, which is interesting.
@winterfellyt
Жыл бұрын
At this rate of making up things, I've been wondering why they didn't make Potei-To, Tomei-To, Buri-To and much more. I'd say it's a missed opportunity.
@AnimeArchaeologist
Жыл бұрын
What if you cover the DD Tank and the Type 2 Amphibious Tank from KanColle?
@PirackieCzogi
Жыл бұрын
Like half of wot tanks. Either "they were on paper" or straight "what if"
@ppggddtt1170
Жыл бұрын
You should talk about the mark viii in Indiana Jones the last crusade. Its..... weird and it might be interesting for you
@OchaFauzan01
Жыл бұрын
The Ka-To could be used as a tier 8 premium, but then again, it's Wargaming.
@JoshuaJapitan
Жыл бұрын
Please cover the Yoh series of American HTs in blitz, they've also added the line in WoT but with the t9 and t10 tank interchanged (t9 blitz tank is t10 in WoT and vice versa)😊, same to what they've done here on the Japanese TDs
@nisha7219
Жыл бұрын
Hey @ConeOfArk, I love your content but Miss your historical stuff, your warthunder video are are nice but I love just hearing the long stories of old prototypes
@janc987
Жыл бұрын
this is just like with the Italian TD's the are so fake from tier 8 - 10
@shadowwolf6534
Жыл бұрын
my man can you spread some light on the YOH series in WOT?
@BooglaooBoi
Жыл бұрын
You should look at some of the british tank destroyers. The excalibur is pretty cool
@DIREWOLFx75
Жыл бұрын
The Chi-To SP is my new favorite TD. Since i got it, my WTR has gone up at least by 1 every 2 days. And it's NOT that it is overpowered, i have no problem at all facing it as an enemy, it's actually not hard to fight at all because it has weak points big as mountains. Buuut, lots of people have massive trouble with the thick and uniform forward casemate armor. Combined with decent gun, decent maneuverability, decent camo, decent spotrange, it literally has everything at an "ok" level, making it a very pleasant TD to play. Of course, as i enjoyed it, i put captured exhaust along with bond optics and bond vents on it. So now it's stealthy and has max+ spotrange. More reliable accuracy would be nice, but then it probably would start getting a bit OP for tier 7. And dear gods, first 2 weeks i had it, before people had learned to deal with it, absolute rampage. Still, even now, with some trick driving to keep people from hitting your weak spots, it's only a few days ago that i blocked over 3 thousand damage with it. And half of that was from tier 9! And after mounting the captured exhaust on it, 3 times now, i've remained unseen whole matches and still dont plenty damage, sometimes even at surprisingly close range. Not perfect, far from it even, but damn enjoyable to play.
@rubberwoody
Жыл бұрын
I don't see what's so wrong about having a description like "This is a concept for a self propelled gun using the (REAL GUN) on the chassis of the (REAL TANK) While this combination never existed, plans were drawn for a vehicle of this broad design"
@awkwarddoggo05
Жыл бұрын
A video on the American Yoh heavy tank line would be interesting.
@rf8480
Жыл бұрын
Played Chi Ha in WoT Blitz( at MOA1 team)😊
@lolxdtank2121
Жыл бұрын
On blitz the t9 is flipped with the t10 Could you pls do a video about the yoh tanks
@halflifeapc8777
Жыл бұрын
God Save ConeofArc!
@murmaider2
Жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on the Polish paper tanks in WOT?
@T29Heavy
Жыл бұрын
They should have added the Chi Ha Long Gun which is already included in war thunder
@Poltard
Жыл бұрын
WoT is such a wacky silly game, I love it.
@generalsoren1237
Жыл бұрын
The Chi-to so isn’t completely made up, more like incorrectly named and modeled, since it’s based on a design of casemate variant of the Chi-ri, the only issue with ingame variant is that there are some incorrect feature on the model, an incorrect name, and an incorrect gun (the only gun it was planned to mount is the same gun as the Chi-to without the autoloader)
@passiveagrsivesmeerschwein2320
Жыл бұрын
japamse be like we wish it would be real sadly we dont even have the steel for that
@reichminister_1943
Жыл бұрын
Can u make a video on wot blitz Chinese tech tree BC I wanna know that they r real or not ?
@maxtermind5110
4 ай бұрын
Why no type 60 or other atgm carriers? Are they in a different category or something. Idk, I don’t play WOTs.
@GarGhuul
Жыл бұрын
They were hoping for advertisement deal with Cheetos.
@megapet777
Жыл бұрын
I haven't thought of wot being realistic since many years. Which is fine, they would run out of things to add otherwise.
@firstcynic92
Жыл бұрын
The Japanese made tanks out of cheetos? No wonder they lost!
@catseye2260
Жыл бұрын
Really strange the in WOT the Tier IX Ho ri is the their X in WOTB
played em all...if you've got the german casemate td line ground out then I wouldn't bother....bit better speed and better reload on t9,10 big guns is about it really....
@jdmheart4727
Жыл бұрын
Now that I know the Ka-To could have been in the game instead I am disappointed. I love turreted TD's like the SU130pm (which is a fake tank too, although it just looks like a upgunned version of the SU100P spg prototype)
@kotikvtanke2349
Жыл бұрын
It isn't quite fake, i heard that it's some sort of SU-100P upgunning proposal, but never existed outside of projects.
@jdmheart4727
Жыл бұрын
@@kotikvtanke2349 Well it might have been a real proposal, maybe even a desperate one to save the project from getting cancelled, but it is still a paper tank at best. I still would have preferred if they had brought the SU100P with its 100mm gun as a Tier VII premium.
@RedXlV
Жыл бұрын
@@jdmheart4727 I'd prefer the SU-100P as Tier 7 in the tech tree as part of a new Soviet turret TD branch. Along with the SU-152P at Tier 9. Put a fake "SU-122P" or "SU-107P" at Tier 8, and cap the line off at Tier 10 with the Object 120 Taran.
@llmkursk8254
Жыл бұрын
Personally, I don’t entirely mind fake tanks with realistic design ideas applied to them, notably the somewhat German doctrine/theory applied to the Japanese TD line here (superstructure on an existing chassis to mount a larger gun), especially considering that Japan was an island nation, so a mobile gun in this fashion for defense doesn’t sound too outlandish to me.
@jadelymori
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@sinisterisrandom8537
Жыл бұрын
Type 3 Ho-Ni III Slight error in model->muzzle device lacking. Chi-Ro/Ji-Ro likely was not built. Although give or take some wooden mockups at best were built. For the Type-4 Chi-To SP Some rumors claim it was something planned to be built. For the Chi-Ri II being converted to Ho-Ri Although a wooden mock up existed. Personally i like to say that the tank did exist but only the gun is whats left of what was ment. I also do believe there were rumors of the 88 and 120mm. But i take those with large grains of salt. Since those rumors could have happened within the decades passed down or people lying to make their book make more money but who really knows at this point. Since its definitely not documented.
@ConeOfArc
Жыл бұрын
The Ho Ri picture in the garage was the stock version as I haven't unlocked the line on my personal account. Not sure if the top gun has the proper muzzle device
@od1452
Жыл бұрын
I'm not a gamer.... but I get FAKE tank Friday...Maybe there should be a class of tanks in the style of whatever country and time. But... I miss the almost tanks or the prototypes that never went anywhere. I think the T34M and the DB panther.. I think they would be a great subject. Maybe they could be war gamer tanks ? . I wish there was software to tryout these tanks virtually... Anyway ... Thanks for the channel and I hope you haven't given up on real tanks.
@legoslayer1990
Жыл бұрын
question when are you going to look at other fakes tanks that aren't in video games like kv44 ?
@dickyarya8204
Жыл бұрын
What does this two syllable name mean?
@jamesbednar8625
Жыл бұрын
Have NOT played a single second of "World of Tanks" or "War Thunder" or whatever the most popular game is out there now. I build plastic model kits of armored vehicles and have noticed the influx of various designs of vehicles - regardless of country - onto the plastic model building industry. Must admit, plenty of vehicles that have NEVER seen before, so whenever I dust off all my reference materials trying to re-educate myself on some of these vehicles, am finding out that they do not nor ever existed!! Get it - nice to see the "paper panzers" or those very rare vehicles and such in scale plastic and are fun to build, as long as there is some type of evidence that they existed or were on the drawing board, but some of these other vehicles..... So, now I know WHY there are a plethora of make-believe vehicles suddenly flooding the plastic model building market - silly games are dictating now. Well, in defense of these silly games - at least they are creating something interesting to try and learn about and build.
@Marl-uo2xk
Жыл бұрын
Italian tank destroyers next time pls
@Taihouchan
Жыл бұрын
as someone who organized historical (kinda) loadout battles among friends, it is always a shame that WG doesn't really give an F about history education
@nookbandit
Жыл бұрын
I think that’s why it’s called a game
@quocvinhnguyen2063
Жыл бұрын
@@nookbandit that ain't a good excuse when they keep advertising the game as "historically accurate" and then you see half of their tanks are fake, some are just fantasy.
@saladdressing2781
Жыл бұрын
@@quocvinhnguyen2063 Well, then the game would get boring cause everything except a few lines would end at like tier 7
@quocvinhnguyen2063
Жыл бұрын
@@saladdressing2781 doesn't matter. False advertising is still false advertising, no excuse. If you can't keep your words, don't say it in the first place. Beside, the game is call "World of Tanks" not "World of WW2 Tanks", WG could easily expand the tech tree to late Cold War and Modern day. So your argument of lacking vehicles to fill the tech tree make no sense too.
@saladdressing2781
Жыл бұрын
@@quocvinhnguyen2063 Never said anything about "World of WW2 Tanks". When I played the first tier 10 I ever got was the M48. That already defeats your "muh WW2 tanks" argument. As for the false advertising yes they do say "Historically accurate" but you need to take it with a grain of salt and stop getting so pressed over it. It's a fucking advertisement. You don't go to McDonalds and say "I'm lovin it". No they won't go into late cold war and modern tanks because a large part of the community will get pissed and probably leave. Hull down meta is killing the game and guess what most MBTs after the 60's were made for? tl;dr: Stop taking advertisements as face value or else you will be disappointed with literally everything.
@lokomo41
Жыл бұрын
Ka-To asi nepřidali z důvodu že jim to nesedělo do linie, otevřená nástavba proti zavřeným.
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