I just got the new ping g430 6h at 30 degrees and today I averaged 195 with a range of 188-205 using arccos. I just bumped it to 31.5 degree and will test again as I don’t want my 6h going that far. I also just got a 5h, 4H, and 3h. I have hit the 4H and 6h and they are easy to hit and have great ball flight. I am a 13.8 hcp. My hybrids are the Ping g430, g425, stealth 2 HD.
@SteveSmith-zz4ih
2 жыл бұрын
The one thing missing (distance) is the diff between dry & sodden fairways, it can be anything up to 3 clubs, no roll, cold moist air etc wet green blah blah. i really struggle in winter with no roll often the ball pugs out of sight. Which causes one to try hitting the cursed wee spherical heathen harder! with bad results.
@EdKrisiak
10 ай бұрын
What about type of grass, altitude and golf ball. Really the list could be endless.
@marklags2396
2 жыл бұрын
I subbed because of this series of videos. Number one lessen an amateur should learn is leave your ego in the car.
@GolfingFocus
2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Mark and delighted you found the videos useful. Your ego point is spot on also although I know I for one struggle with doing that as regularly as I should!
@EdKrisiak
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the graphs and great video:)
@GolfingFocus
10 ай бұрын
Delighted you you found the video helpful! 👍
@Big_J
2 жыл бұрын
That Arccos hybrid data must include all the duffs&tops, (women also?) me as a high handicapper and short hitter can reach 200yd with solid 4 hybrid shot, 220 on 3.
@GolfingFocus
2 жыл бұрын
The Arccos distances are ‘smart’ distances JT which excludes tops, duffs etc. Given the volume of shots they analyse we can only assume they are pretty accurate and you are simply a long hitter. Key point is there is a ceiling in terms of how low you can based on distance. If you don’t hit the ball very far you will not be able to get to a low handicap unfortunately according to the stats.
@nutyyyy
Жыл бұрын
Are those average distances or your longest distances?
@brucemiller3069
2 жыл бұрын
I must be a huge outlier almost 60yrs old (xmas). my arccos data shows my 3h distance avg 215m. range page shows193-234m. Longest 263m was downwind winter storms wind 25-30kts on down slope played on 506m par 5 airmailed green by 30m driver +3h. into wind shots last round 10-15kts fairway/1st cut actuals 184m and 193m. Ping g425 with ping tour 85g shaft X flex. Fitting swing speed trackman 4 was avg 103mph for 3h. Golf Aust hcp 29.1 reducing every comp round on last 7 rounds except 1 played in heavy winter rain.( Aust). i In every stat group i am major outlier except Vs tour pga stats where my irons slightly short 5m or so have actual data to support. Have my own dist (carry) chart after a full bag gapping session also trackman 4. Use pga carry stat as back green best hit if damage beyond otherwise use my carry dist to green as have spin to hold. any other is useless info to compare to. Must trust my spe ific scwnario and data. Been back into golf for 20mths after 17 years away. last time with official hcp was back in 80's was circa 23-25. Played with regular shafts and couldn't keep on fairway though long even with wooden driver etc. Uni student back then so not easy just get new clubs. played with what I had. On the path to find the best i can be at golf. Trust in your own data and learn from it. Ps I am an engineer
@josephwirtz8352
2 жыл бұрын
You are definitely long, as I hit my 2H 225-230 yards, and that is long for someone who is the same age as you.
@Melted_Butter
2 жыл бұрын
It would be useful to have standard deviations on the graphs 📈
@01devilboy
11 ай бұрын
that data cant be correct every good player i have ever played with can easy hit a 22 degree 210 ish and 19 more 235 ish but still interesting video non the less
@GolfingFocus
10 ай бұрын
Many thanks. Delighted you found the video interesting 👍
@JM-qn3tf
25 күн бұрын
False
@rts3613
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't look like there is very much difference in hitting a hybrid vs a 6 or 7 iron for a higher handicapper. What would the benefit be, if any? I'm in the 15-20 group, I hit my 34 degree 7 iron around 150. Is a 2 hybrid easier to hit than a 7 iron?
@phreak761
Жыл бұрын
No.
@nutyyyy
Жыл бұрын
A lot of golfers should really consider using a half set or reduce the number of clubs they use to between 6 and 10.
@fraserh3716
Жыл бұрын
There must be selection bias here. I assume players with more club speed (at all handicaps) are more likely to use irons
@GolfingFocus
Жыл бұрын
It's a fair point. Given the amount of shots Arccos have in their database though its likely its representative to a good degree. Also with 37% of the top 100 PGA Tour pros now using hybrids I'm not sure only players with lower swing speeds are using hybrids predominantly now.
@fraserh3716
Жыл бұрын
@@GolfingFocus I certainly don't doubt the volume of data Arccos has but I'd like to see how the averages were deduced. It just seems strange that iron distances are longer than hybrids. Maybe in very firm conditions. I tend to find a 4 hybrid to be a 3 iron replacement, 5 hyrbid a 4 iron replacement, etc
@GolfingFocus
Жыл бұрын
@@fraserh3716 Think part of the difficulty now is also its very hard to compare numbers of hybrids and irons absolutely directly given all the loft changes in recent years. Despite consistent talk it doesn't look like we're going to move to just the degrees of lofts of different clubs being shown rather than a number but think that would help alot when it comes to the comparisons. Mind you saying that as long as your gapping is good it doesn't really matter what loft or number it says on any club.
@johnnorth9514
2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, the hybrid is consistently the worst club in my bag, probably about 1 in 20 solid, the rest fat / thin / pull / slice, and even when hit reasonably solid, no elevation. I hate my hybrid, but have no other options.
@GolfingFocus
2 жыл бұрын
Out of interest John, are you playing a wide body or narrow body hybrid?
@adkent9
2 жыл бұрын
Try pretending its a 7 iron and swing easier. Maybe a shorter backswing. Experiment with ball position to get elevation.
@krone123
10 ай бұрын
@@adkent9yeah that's what I do. Stand closer to the ball and imagine I've got a 7 or 8 iron. I used to hate my hybrid when I tried to swing it like driver but now it's my best club
@dso1986
4 ай бұрын
This cant be right 4 hybrid goes 200 yards if u just bunt it
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