I believe Oscar had a HUGE chip on his shoulder, quick temper, and suffering from severe affluenza - he thought he was untouchable - shooting live ammo in public, in a restaurant and a car???? Where would any other one of us in SA get away with crap like that? Rot in pieces, Oscar.
@EnglebertHumperdinck
Ай бұрын
He was released from prison not long after you posted this comment.
@mchapman132
3 жыл бұрын
Never break up with someone with a temper, when you’re alone. During my divorce, my attorney advised me to never be alone with my estranged husband. Even my attorney picked up on his violent temper. She needed to leave, go to a safe place, and never go back. RIP.
@gailwaters814
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm pretty convinced OP killed her in a fit of rage because he had deep-seated (and very understandable) complexes from having his legs amputated at age 11 months. Reeva's mother said they never had sex, and one can see they paraded each other at celebrity events. If these words from an angry and bereaved mother are true, it looks overwhelmingly like Reeva just wanted them to be friends while being a "celebrity power couple". That way they both got more media attention and more money. In the end her extra fame got her a lot of attention (also from other men), and I think that probably nudged her to stop the fake relationship in favor of her "next step" toward take financial care of her aging parents. This same issue (being replaced) must have eaten at OP's mind, especially with his tragic mental issues. He probably felt a lot of rage about being replaced by a "normal" man ... and I can't blame him for that. He seemed to live his whole life trying to prove he was just as capable as any other man (hence playing normal rugby with prosthetics in high school, and forcing the IOC to allow him to race against "normal" athletes). I really feel for the guy and his issues, but he should obviously never have shot her. It ended her life and his. It would have been better if he had accepted his tragic limitation at a young age, which would have allowed him to develop spiritually and emotionally, which would have led him to find a woman who could really love him and support him. In that scenario I doubt he would have become a famous, game-changing athlete, but he would have found peace.
@mchapman132
Жыл бұрын
As a loving partner, Oscar came up short.
@KChelseaVenus
4 ай бұрын
@@gailwaters814 Sounds like a fairy tale the way you describe the scenario in your last sentences. Hate to bust the deluded bubble but he is a PSYCHOPATH and nothing at all would've changed that. He should've been in prison for life but instead he got off easy like OJ.
@zunnymartinez3226
4 жыл бұрын
I never believed Oscar Pistorius’ story that he thought there was an “intruder” in his home. Never believed his story and never will. And shooting at the bathroom door 4 times??? Nah, he could have gotten up and looked to see if in reality there was a stranger inside his home. It is ashamed that this lady Reva died, she was a very beautiful woman with her whole life ahead of her, and he was a very jealous and obsessed man who resorted to murdering her. And I believe he got a “pass” when it came to his prison term. He should have been sentenced to life in prison ......but just 6 or 8 years that he got? It is outrageous and disgraceful. A true miscarriage of justice. Reva was sentenced for life!!! A human life was lost, doesn’t that count for something??? But every country has its own laws and rules but it sucks that he only has to spend so little time in jail because of his wealth and money. Shame on him. I hope this case is an eye opener to any woman out there who might want to get involved with him. Oscar Pistorius has “issues” and a “very bad temper.” He should have anger management sessions with a mental health professional. He disgust me.
@nkadimashiane
2 жыл бұрын
It was changed to 15 years
@gailwaters814
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm pretty convinced OP killed her in a fit of rage because he had deep-seated (and very understandable) complexes from having his legs amputated at age 11 months. Reeva's mother said they never had sex, and one can see they paraded each other at celebrity events. If these words from an angry and bereaved mother are true, it looks overwhelmingly like Reeva just wanted them to be friends while being a "celebrity power couple". That way they both got more media attention and more money. In the end her extra fame got her a lot of attention (also from other men), and I think that probably nudged her to stop the fake relationship in favor of her "next step" toward take financial care of her aging parents. This same issue (being replaced) must have eaten at OP's mind, especially with his tragic mental issues. He probably felt a lot of rage about being replaced by a "normal" man ... and I can't blame him for that. He seemed to live his whole life trying to prove he was just as capable as any other man (hence playing normal rugby with prosthetics in high school, and forcing the IOC to allow him to race against "normal" athletes). I really feel for the guy and his issues, but he should obviously never have shot her. It ended her life and his. It would have been better if he had accepted his tragic limitation at a young age, which would have allowed him to develop spiritually and emotionally, which would have led him to find a woman who could really love him and support him. In that scenario I doubt he would have become a famous, game-changing athlete, but he would have found peace.
@vamp8903
Жыл бұрын
Every mother should warn their daughters ...and keep them away from him
@Nicosshalagalanis
8 ай бұрын
Its easy to say words like that in the US or western countries where you live. But if you have only one leg and rich in South Africa is a huge difference.. The crimes there are very rough!
@KChelseaVenus
4 ай бұрын
@@nkadimashiane He recently got out...free man now, what a disgrace! He will do something horrible again, it's inevitable, and hopefully next time be in there for life like he deserves!
@jayesimond9301
4 жыл бұрын
OP was very particular about security. His home was in a very well guarded gated community w/heavy security personnel, his home was loaded w/security system. And his story was that he thought an intruder was hiding in his toilet, and shot through the door in fear for his life.... He had argument w/gf, he comes after her (and yes he can fast w/t the prosthetic legs), she locks herself in toilet w/her cellphone. His frustration increases, grabs 1 of his guns, loads and fires 4 shots. She’s stuck in a tight space, it’s like shooting fish in a barrel. He doesn’t belong in prison, he belongs under it.
@AlliWritesNow
3 жыл бұрын
💯
@BabylonPatrol
2 жыл бұрын
you forgot to mention that she just peed, so she could have also taken her phone to the toilet to pee and lost time a bit checking messages, not wanting to wake him up.
@gailwaters814
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm pretty convinced OP killed her in a fit of rage because he had deep-seated (and very understandable) complexes from having his legs amputated at age 11 months. Reeva's mother said they never had sex, and one can see they paraded each other at celebrity events. If these words from an angry and bereaved mother are true, it looks overwhelmingly like Reeva just wanted them to be friends while being a "celebrity power couple". That way they both got more media attention and more money. In the end her extra fame got her a lot of attention (also from other men), and I think that probably nudged her to stop the fake relationship in favor of her "next step" toward take financial care of her aging parents. This same issue (being replaced) must have eaten at OP's mind, especially with his tragic mental issues. He probably felt a lot of rage about being replaced by a "normal" man ... and I can't blame him for that. He seemed to live his whole life trying to prove he was just as capable as any other man (hence playing normal rugby with prosthetics in high school, and forcing the IOC to allow him to race against "normal" athletes). I really feel for the guy and his issues, but he should obviously never have shot her. It ended her life and his. It would have been better if he had accepted his tragic limitation at a young age, which would have allowed him to develop spiritually and emotionally, which would have led him to find a woman who could really love him and support him. In that scenario I doubt he would have become a famous, game-changing athlete, but he would have found peace.
@BabylonPatrol
2 жыл бұрын
@@gailwaters814 i like that someone develops their position a bit in full sentences (sorry for falling short here; I'm typing on a small fon here between other jobs. I'm not much invested in the case. my basic interest in these cases is about a response to social media bullying: what kind of response do people expect from a falsely accused innocent person to help his case. to my surprise, i found many murder mysteries easy to solve as an intelligent impartial outsider. occasionally i found later confirmed that i was correct or largely correct. so I got interested why so many people were highly invested in obviously false solutions, which would have typically made them part of a lynchmob not long ago. here are factors i commonly found: 1. overstating certainty is rampant. such posters almost never state any credentials, even anecdotal ones. 2. people tend to start of with a narrative along ideologicsl lines, then look for confirmation, again along ideologicsl lines. they post their views among posters of similar bias. however, outside of professionals and the rare high IQ poster, there are almost never indicators that these biases are reflected at all. 3. arguments contain very few, often poorly checked or contextualized facts but massive elaboration. 4. i almost never see evidence to contradict the poster's assumptions considered. 5. people have no noticable fear to falsely accuse someone. 6. when it turns out conclusively that they were mistaken, i almost never see any of them apologize or correct their position. i believe that I notice these points because my lives needs have cultivated diametrically opposite reflexes. i assume these people's lives and ressources are probably not dependent on finding counterintuitive truths as much as social approval, something i, obviously, have little faith in. i do not care to win this argument and will say if i made a mistake. however, I would be interested to learn, if you care to share, how you honestly feel about my objections and if you would allow that they could pertain to your argument to any degree. to zoom out, my real interest is whether pursuit of truth has any merit in protection against false accusations. I'm considering whether it is not really just a trap because it tends to want you to engage and persuade when that is really pointless and one should focus on intimidation, obfuscation and evasion.... ie a falsely accused innocent person should maybe behave more like a guilty person to be safe from bullying, losses and violence?
@jayesimond9301
2 жыл бұрын
@@gailwaters814 IMHO Even he had a fully abled body, OP is the type of man who would have eventually seriously harmed someone. Some are able to kill in self defense or in defense of others in danger. He knew who was in his bathroom and it was a willful act on his part to unload his gun on her. The ballistics report proves it. He’s a vicious killer and fully capable of killing again.
@chrismalcomson7640
5 жыл бұрын
I was struck by what the gun shop guy said. If its your house you know whats going on in there. He knew Reeva was there and you'd expect him to make sure he knew it wasn't her before opening fire. From what I've heard about him he had anger issues and if she was going to leave him he could have flipped...
@gailwaters814
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm pretty convinced OP killed her in a fit of rage because he had deep-seated (and very understandable) complexes from having his legs amputated at age 11 months. Reeva's mother said they never had sex, and one can see they paraded each other at celebrity events. If these words from an angry and bereaved mother are true, it looks overwhelmingly like Reeva just wanted them to be friends while being a "celebrity power couple". That way they both got more media attention and more money. In the end her extra fame got her a lot of attention (also from other men), and I think that probably nudged her to stop the fake relationship in favor of her "next step" toward take financial care of her aging parents. This same issue (being replaced) must have eaten at OP's mind, especially with his tragic mental issues. He probably felt a lot of rage about being replaced by a "normal" man ... and I can't blame him for that. He seemed to live his whole life trying to prove he was just as capable as any other man (hence playing normal rugby with prosthetics in high school, and forcing the IOC to allow him to race against "normal" athletes). I really feel for the guy and his issues, but he should obviously never have shot her. It ended her life and his. It would have been better if he had accepted his tragic limitation at a young age, which would have allowed him to develop spiritually and emotionally, which would have led him to find a woman who could really love him and support him. In that scenario I doubt he would have become a famous, game-changing athlete, but he would have found peace.
@dewaldtfourie4241
Жыл бұрын
@@gailwaters814 To me personally it is hard to believe that OP is a killer. If the bullet to her head missed by 2 inches she would have confessed about OP after the accident... Yet he stopped firing after 4 shots. Maybe OP just blacked out of anger and didn't know what he was doing. Meaning he saw black. It's still a mystery. Let's go on OP's word. Only the Lord can judge and the Lord judges no one. It's a very sad story maybe OP really didn't know who was behind the door and shot at the door for publicity media attention or something. Young men do stupid things like that especially when they get a new gun. Life goes on... I'm happy OP is still alive though. I don't think he is a monster. Maybe just young and wet behind the ears. The Lord says forgive 70 x 7. I must say that the same thing happened to me once. My dad's old friend and old neighbor almost choked me with a pillow when I came home from a night club 3 am in the morning because he didn't know our new home in Capetown for the August cycling so he slept over and thought I was a intruder. These things do really happen. Jesus died 3pm so the devil created 3am to spite Jesus. All spirits and demons walk the earth 3am. This is what happened that night.
@helenduplessis4166
Жыл бұрын
We have MANY armed robberies here. Very scary. Also, he may have been disorientated when he woke up.
@helenduplessis4166
Жыл бұрын
80 murders a year here...
@rosemarymcgrory-eb2gd
9 ай бұрын
@@gailwaters814still absolutely no excuse to Murder someone in cold blood , murder is illegal for a reason , legs or no legs dose not give Oscar the excuse to kill someone , with four bullets , lots and lots of people live with grief and , absolutely devastating illness or loss of Limbs but they don’t pick up a loaded firearm.. Point it at the bathroom door , locked bathroom door knowing fine well , someone was behind that door .. and fire four bullets in to the door.. Oscar wouldn’t even be able to claim self defence as no one had a weapon pointed at him .. Oscar committed first degree murder and nothing less then that
@MissWitchiepoo
6 жыл бұрын
Why would an intruder be in his toilet? And he didn't notice his girlfriend was not there. And then the sobbing voice all the time so people will feel sorry for him. He wasn't being attacked he was shooting at a door. He killed her because he wanted to.
@raylady0
2 жыл бұрын
It's all b******* it's sad he just killed her and got away with it now if it was a black South African you know he would there were probably wouldn't have been a trial I can't believe how he's locked up over there and his little community and think somebody's going to come in his house to take a piss that just doesn't make sense
@gailwaters814
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm pretty convinced OP killed her in a fit of rage because he had deep-seated (and very understandable) complexes from having his legs amputated at age 11 months. Reeva's mother said they never had sex, and one can see they paraded each other at celebrity events. If these words from an angry and bereaved mother are true, it looks overwhelmingly like Reeva just wanted them to be friends while being a "celebrity power couple". That way they both got more media attention and more money. In the end her extra fame got her a lot of attention (also from other men), and I think that probably nudged her to stop the fake relationship in favor of her "next step" toward take financial care of her aging parents. This same issue (being replaced) must have eaten at OP's mind, especially with his tragic mental issues. He probably felt a lot of rage about being replaced by a "normal" man ... and I can't blame him for that. He seemed to live his whole life trying to prove he was just as capable as any other man (hence playing normal rugby with prosthetics in high school, and forcing the IOC to allow him to race against "normal" athletes). I really feel for the guy and his issues, but he should obviously never have shot her. It ended her life and his. It would have been better if he had accepted his tragic limitation at a young age, which would have allowed him to develop spiritually and emotionally, which would have led him to find a woman who could really love him and support him. In that scenario I doubt he would have become a famous, game-changing athlete, but he would have found peace.
@anjsmith8459
4 жыл бұрын
What's the first thing you do if you hear something....wake up your partner
@mellel1797
3 жыл бұрын
Oscar Pistorius is 100% guilty of murdering Reeva Steenkamp. When you're in a brand new relationship like they were, and you're in bed with your boyfriend or girlfriend, the two of you are either having sex all night (it was Valentine's Day, after all) or you're sleeping very close to each other, perhaps intertwined together. There is no way that OP didn't know that his Reeva wasn't in the bed with him. If you think you hear a burglar in your house, you will first turn to your partner, wake them, and then get up and get your weapon, etc. He didn't do that because they were never asleep in bed. I think they had an argument that evening, maybe she wanted to end things or maybe something happened and the chip on his shoulder got chipped at further and he violently reacted. She ran in fear for her life and locked herself in the bathroom, and Blade Runner lost his damn mind, ran after her and shot her repeatedly. He should be roting in jail without his prosthetics.
@malikozipek4833
Жыл бұрын
Yes I think so too
@staceyyoungson9189
Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more, the fact he wants us to be live without his prosthetics he got down her side of the bed used his balance not a hand on bed to get up. I don’t believe one second they were in bed at all. I think they started physical fight downstairs leading to her to go upstairs for her belonging I then believe he chased or shot air rifle through door at her back. Wether bat was used before after murder it was rage it was anger I can’t believe he might get out soon. He should rot in there for life
@malikozipek4833
Жыл бұрын
@@staceyyoungson9189 I know
@romanireva
Жыл бұрын
The thing is that he stood up to get the fans inside.He believed she was still in bed... I don't know... i have a doubt
@staceyyoungson9189
Жыл бұрын
@@romanireva he found out she had coffee with ex boyfriend it was valentines they were up late eating supper. Fans is just distraction or excuse for us to believe they were in bed & he didn’t hear her getting up, but what sealed it for me. No women in privacy of her man’s bedroom would ever use a key lock to go to the bathroom while they slept and you also don’t shoot without knowing where loved ones are. Even if I hear anything first thing I do is wake my partner. Cold blooded murder through jealousy rage. Do I believe he regrets it and has remorse absolutely but not so much for reeva more for himself.
@JockStrop
4 жыл бұрын
He gets out in 2 years. Shocking
@vernamorales2064
4 жыл бұрын
@poxy poo lt sure is !!!!
@katjakittenland9689
4 жыл бұрын
That's not true. He will have his first parole hearing in 2023, which doesn't mean he will be released.
@Spongebob0911
3 жыл бұрын
I'll be waiting ...
@crashvds777
3 жыл бұрын
Not anymore His sentence was lengthened from 6 to 15 total years.
@catslove3884
3 жыл бұрын
He'd better take acting lessons so when he kills the next one, he will be more believable.
@tiffsaver
5 жыл бұрын
This is gun safety, according to Oscar Pistorius: BANG, BANG, BANG!!! "Is that you dear??"
@yes0r787
3 жыл бұрын
Then ... BANG.
@dsoule4902
3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Shouldnt be funny ... but your accurate synopsis -- when stated that way-- lol
@tiffsaver
3 жыл бұрын
@@dsoule4902 lt was bang on... :-)
@dontbeacasualtycutthecord7173
6 жыл бұрын
Under 3 minutes in and I have to comment because this pissed me off. Guy- "I keep going back to Riva, I really think that she's an interesting character" Hey buddy, she wasn't a character! She was a human being and a wonderful one lets not forget. She was murdered in cold blood and did not get the justice she deserved! Neither did her poor family.
@thebiscuitrose
5 жыл бұрын
The murder is being analyzed as if it were a movie being scripted. Could what is claimed to have ocurred ascertained as plausible when you turn it into a crime scene , in a movie.
@XPert9000
5 жыл бұрын
I like how your comment goes on about how this us someone who did not get her justice for her murder but your whole reason for it is because someone called her a “character” like that matters i mean what it is is you clearly took the word “character” and took it to far i mean ik what it was meant in this case and im not mad because its clear what he meant
@gina1emo
4 жыл бұрын
Don't be a casualty, cut the cord Actually Oscar did eventually get a life sentence for her Murder he got 25yrs! Check it if you don’t believe me!
@pommiebears
4 жыл бұрын
Don't be a casualty, cut the cord she had a character though. We all do.
@stevebbuk
3 жыл бұрын
@@thebiscuitrose Yes this excerpt is inadequate in several ways.
@whaghht
3 жыл бұрын
“...was it self-defence or committed in the heat of passion...” Why isn’t 'cold-blooded murder' an option?
@tanjagordon1352
5 жыл бұрын
Just for a second - lets just look at the logic of an 'intruder' soooo, I've hypothetically broken into someones home - what intruder in their right mind locks themselves in an upstairs bathroom! That is a trap - an intruder, one would imagine, would look for the first exit DOWNSTAIRS - thats what an intruder is going to do - ESCAPE, not go upstairs and lock themselves in a BATHROOM to get caught and incriminate themselves in a crime! So ridiculous!
@gailwaters814
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm pretty convinced OP killed her in a fit of rage because he had deep-seated (and very understandable) complexes from having his legs amputated at age 11 months. Reeva's mother said they never had sex, and one can see they paraded each other at celebrity events. If these words from an angry and bereaved mother are true, it looks overwhelmingly like Reeva just wanted them to be friends while being a "celebrity power couple". That way they both got more media attention and more money. In the end her extra fame got her a lot of attention (also from other men), and I think that probably nudged her to stop the fake relationship in favor of her "next step" toward take financial care of her aging parents. This same issue (being replaced) must have eaten at OP's mind, especially with his tragic mental issues. He probably felt a lot of rage about being replaced by a "normal" man ... and I can't blame him for that. He seemed to live his whole life trying to prove he was just as capable as any other man (hence playing normal rugby with prosthetics in high school, and forcing the IOC to allow him to race against "normal" athletes). I really feel for the guy and his issues, but he should obviously never have shot her. It ended her life and his. It would have been better if he had accepted his tragic limitation at a young age, which would have allowed him to develop spiritually and emotionally, which would have led him to find a woman who could really love him and support him. In that scenario I doubt he would have become a famous, game-changing athlete, but he would have found peace.
@glendagreene9324
2 жыл бұрын
When you wake up in the night and the person you went to bed with is not beside you and someone is in the bathroom it’s common sense to assume who’s in the bathroom… He’s handicap but he’s not stupid… He came up with the first line of crap he could and I’m astounded he was able to use such nonsense as a defense.. he murdered her purposely and sure he regretted it the moment he was arrested… He was so sorry for himself…
@johncannonnh
Жыл бұрын
He woke up, adjusted the fans and heard the screen window. Sleep disoriented, dreamlike response. I am not convinced he was in his right mind. Negligent homicide by firing into a closed bathroom. He deserves some time. Did he fire to defend himself and Reeva? Or from passion. Prosecution seems willing to lie to get their judgement.
@Mistyb118
Жыл бұрын
@@johncannonnh the prosecution did not lie.
@ralphloechle9632
Жыл бұрын
that sucks
@shivill2236
Жыл бұрын
@@johncannonnhThere is some evidence suggesting that Oscar's relationship with Reeva was incredibly toxic. Oscar withheld his second phone from the police and only gave it to them when he deleted the messages he sent to Reeva. Reeva's autopsy showed that she was incredibly stressed moments before she died. Reeva's clothing has a hole in which while argued looks to be from the gun shot, it bares are more striking resemblance to someone ripping it. There was also a wound on her back which shows she either fell over something and hit her back or someone hit her back instead. The injury looked to have either been caused by a cricket bat or a piece of furniture. There is also Oscar's behaviour at the start of the relationship where he is described to be controlling and even stalked Reeva without her consent. There is other evidence such as the toilet, as the only way for that candy cane pattern to have been made was is if the toilet was flushed 20 seconds before the shooting, which means that Oscar was certainly aware someone was on the toilet when he fired at it.
@bronxbutterflyrivera78
4 жыл бұрын
Terrible story. This isn’t about Hollywood. They aren’t characters . I hate when they say he had a beautiful girlfriend “ ok if she was ugly ??
@bronxbutterflyrivera78
4 жыл бұрын
david groves she was beautiful my point is that , that fact doesn’t really matter in this situation if she was beautiful or not either way she’s dead. The media throws that in all the time to prove their “point” that he had to have been so jealous because she was “beautiful” So they should throw in how handsome he is because he is! But nobody would give a shit because it isn’t a fuckin Hollywood beauty contest it’s a crime story
@inesamaro2811
4 жыл бұрын
it´s offensive to her, her family and all that are grieving here, he´s a cold blooded killer , Hollywood should not praise such a specie, Oscar the fallen of a titan? are you kidding me? it should be about her, not about him...
@theresag1969
4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. It subtle but to them there are good beautiful entitled people, then there are the rest of us. The problem is treating people accordingly. It seems people don't get that. They don't get their bias about people dictates how they view and treat people, especially when it comes to good, innocence, and in entitled. Why can't people not judge and treat people decently since you are 100% wrong about someone when you judge.
@bronxbutterflyrivera78
4 жыл бұрын
cockney gyal you don’t need to have a big heart”! To date a man who is a double amputee not paraplegic you just not be shallow and just love him for who he is. You do get with a person because you feel pity for them that’s not love . And he had everything going for himself too. He was an athlete who over came his odds and she was a model
@bronxbutterflyrivera78
4 жыл бұрын
cockney gyal no he didn’t they were in a relationship. Why are u acting like she did him a favor . How did he take advantage of her.?? U only know what the media put out there. This man was an athlete with 2 prosthetic legs how did he take advantage of her? I’m lost .
@robingagan6288
4 жыл бұрын
His ex girlfriend, also a beautiful blond, said on 20/20 that he blew his stack if she neglected to put her dish in the sink
@BidenSUCKSS
3 жыл бұрын
Wow you’d think disability would make him more humble, the guy without legs but big ego.
@KChelseaVenus
4 ай бұрын
@@BidenSUCKSS That is the fault of whoever raised him. Coddled entitled golden child turned into a narcissist psychopath.
@melanieenmats
6 жыл бұрын
THe video is not about what it says in the title. What is this, some baseless pre-trial hypothesising? Wasted my time.
@materialgrug3048
6 жыл бұрын
melanieenmats thank you
@qattah
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks; I will skip it.
@dafyddjones9573
5 жыл бұрын
I know right!!! Is this based on Science or Hollywood....They can't make up their mind!!!!!!
@anniegetchergun
4 жыл бұрын
melanieenmats Thanks. I suspected after a couple of minutes so checked out the comments!
@granny58
4 жыл бұрын
Disappointed in this video
@emdoubleu5878
4 жыл бұрын
The answer why Reeva was in the bathroom is... because thats the place she run to hide fr pistorius, he was after her and she thought shell be safe. But he ran after her
@slungubane9024
4 жыл бұрын
True
@vernamorales2064
4 жыл бұрын
@@slungubane9024 Ditto !!
@slungubane9024
4 жыл бұрын
@@vernamorales2064 ??
@Steztheskinhead
4 жыл бұрын
Shuffled
@vernamorales2064
4 жыл бұрын
@@slungubane9024 Ditto means l agree
@fredaulun3548
4 жыл бұрын
For every action we make, it comes with consequences. The consequences depend on 2 things, wise decision, and bad decision. At the end of the day, we will experience one of the consequences not two. So choose wisely.
@sylvia106
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for writing that.
@KChelseaVenus
4 ай бұрын
Excellent observation!
@mimibee409
2 жыл бұрын
Just another note: no one brought up Valentine's day. I read somewhere that she had a card and gift for him. Where was his gift to her? In such early stages of courtship, a man will make sure he makes a big deal of Valentine's day
@m_christine1070
Жыл бұрын
He had apparently, made a collage foor Reeva
@user-jr3xx2hh4d
4 жыл бұрын
It it truly astounding how far people will go to defend a guy that shot and killed his gf while she was on the toilet. Celebrity privilege at it's finest
@sophiescents
3 жыл бұрын
He knew that was Reeva 100%
@douggief1367
4 жыл бұрын
Why is he asking *gun shop owners* about Oscar's disability ??? FOOTNOTE Having said that I think they had some of the best insights of any of them!
@AnyFuleKnoThat
5 жыл бұрын
If he thought there was an intruder and was afraid for his life WHY did he not turn to where he thought Reeva was.. in bed next to him, and wake her, this would be in my opinion the 1st thing that anyone would do, he is guilty.
@goodnesssake8980
4 жыл бұрын
Yep. She would have been screaming her head off anyway for whatever reason.
@jessmoonshadow1360
4 жыл бұрын
I know right
@evien3790
3 жыл бұрын
But she was already awake , she asked him if he could sleep ? The fans were on and loud , she went to the loo , he thought she was still in bed , he was on his wobbly stumps already paranoid as fuck that someone was in there hiding from them after getting through the bathroom window , he messed up big time yes and is paying for it now , but I don't believe he did he mean to kill her , the guy had it all and is now broken. It's a tragic accident. The screams heard were Oscars not Reeves as proved in court . And no arguing was heard either .
@HandbagDiva
3 жыл бұрын
@@evien3790 he is a narcissist who abused other women. He had a history of being jealous as well. What person doesn’t have any sense of another person in the same bedroom moving? We have peripheral vision, if he had enough light to move fans he could see her leaving the bed. Do you think OJ is innocent as well? Just because you have money & a good life doesn’t preclude you from committing a crime.
@evien3790
3 жыл бұрын
@@HandbagDiva no , I think OJ is guilty and I don't believe OP is innocent , I don't know enough about him to call him a narcissist either. I just think that it's possible under the circumstances he was terrified / paranoid and made a tragic mistake .
@kitkat186
3 жыл бұрын
He wanted to punish her Oscar did a real good job, she was locked in the bathroom trying to protect herself from him screaming the place down. He terrorized her, but not content with that he murdered her. They should throw away the keys and leave him to rot!
@Lion_Hamza
6 жыл бұрын
He killed her without any question knowing who is in the toilet.
@tinamaher3940
6 жыл бұрын
F. Moussa That's not what the high court and court of appeal said. Let's hope you never get to do jury service, as you obviously can't tell the difference between " facts " and " assumptions". Oscars version was accepted and is on record !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@douggief1367
4 жыл бұрын
@@tinamaher3940 thx for your lonely voice Tina
@Jacksonbodylanguage
4 жыл бұрын
F. Moussa you are absolutely right. No innocent man would pull a trigger without alerting others especially with those they are sleeping with.
@dewaldtfourie4241
3 жыл бұрын
If you look at the video of the shooting range scene of Oscar Pistorius you will notice he fires 4 shots and stops. This is the nature of how Oscar Pistorius shoots.
@annechris2677
Жыл бұрын
Agree
@mqs0557
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, if he was as paranoid as most South Africans about break ins and i put myself in his position here. it is very plausible that he did this out of fear of a home invasion,fear is as dangerous if not worse than anger.people need to recognise that.
@rosemarymcgrory-eb2gd
9 ай бұрын
4 calculated shots , He knew exactly what he was doing, and what he was Aiming for murder , just cold blooded Murder .. he’s a coward simple as that
@KChelseaVenus
4 ай бұрын
@@mqs0557 Oh cut the enabling bs crap
@mqs0557
4 ай бұрын
@@KChelseaVenus "Plausible" dont be ignorant now..The world does not revolve around you.We are all entitled to an opinion..One could say that you are enabling Karens out here
@thaismacedo8124
Жыл бұрын
They had an argument in the middle of the night and she ended the relationship. He turned violent because he could never control his temper, she became terrified and ran to the toilet. In the end he lost it and shot knowing for sure that she was behind the door. NO ONE BELIEVES HIS STORY - HE IS A MURDERER AND SHOULD NEVER BE RELEASED FROM PRISON.
@flowerpower8722
3 жыл бұрын
I got the impression he was a bit of a princess. I bet he's never had to be responsible for himself.
@KChelseaVenus
4 ай бұрын
That's how narcissists are created.
@wess4711
4 жыл бұрын
No one with any brains would empty the gun and leave themselves with an unloaded gun. But he was guilty because of the way he approached the door - that is not like he thought someone could shoot at him from the other side - he knew it was her behind the door.
@quartusbuys6831
2 жыл бұрын
The first thing a woman being threatened by a partner does is to grab her phone and lock herself in a bathroom.
@jasontroy4723
5 жыл бұрын
A beautiful , loving , caring young lady killed at the hands of a ? . Wish her family all the very best in all future endeavors .
@pabloerickgonzalez224
3 жыл бұрын
Just the fact that she had a cell in the bathroom was evidence that she was calling someone... Or watching cat videos on KZitem. That part seemed flimsy.
@mazibukomail
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I get depressed when I forget to bring my cellphone in the bathroom... Which is hardly ever.
@aleckto28
3 жыл бұрын
relying on experts that work on Hollywood crime dramas is ridiculous in the extreme!
@amckx81
4 жыл бұрын
Common sense convicted Pistorius. What was he afraid was being stolen in his bathroom soap?!
@MultiSadielady
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, never heard of a Burglar politely using the loo with the door closed and locked before they burgle the house, especially when the home owner is home
@jayesimond9301
4 жыл бұрын
Though part of bathroom, the toilet space had a door for privacy. Shooting her was like shooting fish in a barrel. She was trapped. He’s a fn coward.
@goodnesssake8980
4 жыл бұрын
@@jayesimond9301 it had a window?
@jayesimond9301
4 жыл бұрын
Goodness Sake Idk, but it’s likely that she just locked herself in the master bath toilet to get away from him til he calmed down, or til someone came over to do so. Her cellphone records would show that. I don’t believe she thought that he’d actually shoot her, sadly. Nevertheless she died defenseless and terrorized.
@John-ev3rm
4 жыл бұрын
The title of this video is total click bait. They tell you nothing about actual determinations or conclusions in the case but instead ask all the questions that went unanswered in the early part of the investigation. No follow up.
@joeg2588
2 жыл бұрын
Yea I kept waiting for the video to show how forensics proved it wasn't an accident and that never happened. total clickbait!
@jul30ie
4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad in the review of the case that self defense was removed from the options. He fired 3 shots with the intent to kill whoever was behind the door. Reeva or someone else.
@kedro2152
4 жыл бұрын
Jules C it was her and he new it 100% guaranty it, cold blooded murderer.
@jul30ie
4 жыл бұрын
Ke Dro I lean towards that too. I just don’t buy that you hear a noise and don’t instinctively check if your partner is there before shooting a gun through a locked door. I also thought it weird that Reeva locked the door to the toilet in the first place. Who would bother to lock it in the middle of the night, unless you were trying to get away from someone. I just don’t get why though. What happened to make him do that? Very sad. My heart broke for her lovely parents.
@kedro2152
4 жыл бұрын
Jules C the very fist thing any normal person would do is make your partner aware that there is some one other than the two of you in your property no ifs not buts ! he killed her because he's a very jealous thing that couldent handle the fact she wanted out the relationship cos of the wiredo that he is and like you I feel the parents pain at losing there beautiful baby girl to a mad monster, should rot in hell or worse, karma is a great thing, goes around comes around is my belief !
@poppyperidot94
2 жыл бұрын
It was 4 shots
@jul30ie
2 жыл бұрын
@@poppyperidot94 ah ok I just know that Reeva was hit by 3 shots. Did the 4th shot miss her?
@elliemckoy74
4 жыл бұрын
This crime was committed in South Africa,. Not in The USA,.... Completely different environment and set of procedures, so cannot you cannot recreate such a awful incident.
@joya7304
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, jealousy based on pride causes people to go so far as murder. The Bible mentions the first murder in human history. Cain killed Abel his brother due to jealousy account is in the first book of the Bible.
@kimchi2780
4 жыл бұрын
Dude still got away with murder. He'll be out of jail before he's 40.
@oliverblair8400
4 жыл бұрын
But his career is over and he’s now also broke. There’ll be nothing to fall back to when he gets out. No money, so much hates and humiliation waiting for him. And in his condition with no source of income and no career, I doubt what kind of life that would be for him. How the mighty have fallen. Poor thing.
@MC-mv2wr
5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I have a relative getting married in South Africa I or family will not go after watching the trial of this worthless coward O Pistoris I feel the country justice system is a pathetic disgrace.
@shannondonnelly7985
4 жыл бұрын
I am South African and no family of mine or even friends that I know,have been victims of crime.Crime happens all around the world.I watch enough crime shows to know that evil lurks in every part of society and in every country.
@barbarama
4 жыл бұрын
Why is Pistorius referred to as Oscar? He's not your friendly neighbour but probably a cold-blooded killer. To me this familiarity is not appropriate.
3 жыл бұрын
He killed her cuz she was going to leave him I believe that
@romanireva
Жыл бұрын
Her Valentine's card said otherwise
@pilotactor777
5 жыл бұрын
17:52:why go "towards that instead of trying to assess the situation"-good point
@davidwells6556
6 жыл бұрын
Only together for 3 months?????? Who wants to kill someone they been with for only 3 months? I think that alone proves he didn't mean to kill her.
@douggief1367
4 жыл бұрын
Wait for a year then ???
@oliverblair8400
4 жыл бұрын
Douggie F 😂😂😂😂😂
@poppyperidot94
2 жыл бұрын
False
@YouTube4me
Жыл бұрын
The neighbors heard a woman screaming before the gunshots. He knew she was in the bathroom. That’s all you need to know the truth. He knew what he was doing.
@annajeehee
6 жыл бұрын
It’s so obvious - I would check the other person is to see if who else in house
@rsmith155
6 жыл бұрын
annajeehee huh wut now?
@rsmith155
6 жыл бұрын
annajeehee to see if who?
@deanrwilson
6 жыл бұрын
Yes so obvious. His story defies logic in so many ways. Thank god his sentence was doubled although 13 years is nothing considering Reeva
@dontbeacasualtycutthecord7173
6 жыл бұрын
Comparing this to the OJ case and then saying "I'm DYING to see how that plays out in South Africa" is an extremely poor choice of words!
@jimvandam123
Жыл бұрын
Killing and hurting others are wrong, wrong, and wrong. My life has taught me, you cannot have everything all of the time. I am happy that Oscar overcame his barriers. I have woman and man who say, " If I can't have you, then no one can have you.". Possession of another can only lead to bad outcomes.
@annechris2677
Жыл бұрын
No he was the unfaithful one
@tuulonyoutube2226
4 жыл бұрын
Entrance camera record, she looks very nice, warm young lady.
@pixiechick4367
4 жыл бұрын
she was a humble,friendly,kind soul.she had a tuft of hair that always used to stand up on top of her head and thats how she got nicknamed Alfie,from the tv show?the world lost a lot when Reeva passed away.
@ostapbendervan7874
4 жыл бұрын
She look like all my x Strange indeed I hate this guy Who would believe his garbage
@undefined_231copeland2
Жыл бұрын
Fame got to his head, plus he was jealous! I remember the story like it was yesterday.
@inproper3952
4 жыл бұрын
What did I get out of this? nothing.
@jimvandam123
Жыл бұрын
I say jealousy of Reeva wanting to end the relationship that led to Oscar killing his so called beloved girlfriend. The facts dont add up.
@jblakeblake5115
4 жыл бұрын
It doesnt matter what the reason he shold be in prison forever because he shot his girlfriend.
@theklaus7436
Жыл бұрын
I know it’s hard to prove. But it is not hard to find a profile of a jealous person who has been a spoiled child. Losing his mother etc. ash his former girlfriends . How did he act. And take his gun , still believing she is in the bed - and he took the gun under the bed. What about all the screaming before he shot her. I’m sure he had been crossing the line and well knowing she would leave him, he snapped, she ran out to hide her and 4 shot.
@pretorious700
4 жыл бұрын
He didn't have a leg to stand on.
@lyncressler2608
4 жыл бұрын
Omg lol
@nikkid4890
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@annechris2677
3 жыл бұрын
The questions hes asking repeatedly are COMMON SENSE.
@barbaraperry2595
3 жыл бұрын
NO GOOD COMES FROM JEALOUSY.....EVER
@jaccivarner4188
3 жыл бұрын
For some unknown reason, the narrator's voice makes me wana do the Time Warp , anyone else finding their feet taking a jump to the left?!!!
@robertfield4001
4 жыл бұрын
He was jealous and possessive, but gutless in not admitting his guilt. Hopefully will rot in hell.
@robertpearce4551
11 ай бұрын
How could he not know that it was his girlfriend that was in the bathroom in the wee small hours. He didn't get up to investigate before shooting through the bathroom door. Riva had spent the night in his own bedroom and he thought she was a Burglar that had broken in. Yeah right. I think that he shot her deliberately because she was going to break it off with him because of his temper
@rosemarymcgrory-eb2gd
9 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree 👍 this is a very sad and tragic miscarriage of justice , that poor little Oscar wasn’t charged with first degree murder.. there would be no other court in the world that would not of convicted this individual of murder
@nereidatorres7613
8 ай бұрын
NO, NO SHE WAS GOING TO BREAK UP WITH HIM.SHE WAS SICK OF ALL HIS JEALOUS FIGHTS .
@robertpearce4551
8 ай бұрын
@@nereidatorres7613 That's what I said
@bronxbutterflyrivera78
4 жыл бұрын
I really think he really made a mistake
@lauly33
Жыл бұрын
Don’t see what blinking Hollywood has to do with this SA 🇿🇦 case..
@woodsman2265
5 жыл бұрын
Not worth watching.
@Nicosshalagalanis
8 ай бұрын
So sad story but I cant see what Oscars motiv could be.. It seems that he really loved her ..😢
@elizabethfourie6983
6 жыл бұрын
Do they think they're CSI Miami? It's the intro of CSI Miami
@PS-vt5gz
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but you can piss off with adverts every 2mins for a video that’s not even yours. How KZitem still allow someone to monetise content that’s not of your own creation is beyond me...... It’s literally no different to me selling a fake copy of a Picasso painting for the price of a real one
@richb388
4 жыл бұрын
That’s a cheap copy of csi if I’ve ever seen one
@NADIAROMYYORK
7 ай бұрын
i dont't believe he wanted to kill her but could not control his rage at that moment- what a shame- such an inspiration for so many -
@alinapopescu872
10 ай бұрын
Whatever happened to the good old "Hey! Who goes there?" before you shoot FOUR times? You must be truly unhinged and a total hypocrite to say that you didn't know who was in the bathroom and, fearing an intruder, you opened fire.
@gloriamcfadden6342
3 жыл бұрын
That wasn't a long-term relationship that was only a few months
@debbierudderham167
4 жыл бұрын
WHY, WHY, WHY! DO THESE PEOPLE POSTING THESE VIDEOS THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE BACK GROUND MUSIC BLASTING UP ON FULL BUST. ????? I am sure there is a column button, USE IT. !!!
@neeranneero4663
7 ай бұрын
Why no one mentioned the locked bathroom door?Would people lock their bathroom door in their own home?
@Mimix476
3 жыл бұрын
What a low intelligence “documentary”. Everyone is talking to say nothing.
@phishiphishi
6 жыл бұрын
Congratulations +Journeyman Pictures..... more spaghetti for the masses ..... LoL
@annemathiivanstaden9041
Жыл бұрын
Three prosecution witnesses gave evidence that they heard a fight that night, and various nights before. They also stated that they heard screams…then sometime later the gunshots, screams again and then more shot??? Also, Reeva was dressed in shorts and a tank top. Investigators found jeans below the bathroom window. I definitely believe that she locked herself in the toilet, hoping to get out through the window somehow, when he started with the shooting in his rage, as she was probably wanting to leave him. The had a VERY rocky relationship as was testified by her friends and mom. Also lots of people spoke out about Oscar’s arrogance and bad temper. I firmly believe he wanted to hurt her OR kill her!!
@melgrant7404
4 жыл бұрын
Who locks the toilet door when you are in a relationship
@melgrant7404
4 жыл бұрын
@Gazpacho Suave not always the case unless reeva was doing a poo
@mikemorrel8312
3 жыл бұрын
Don’t we all shoot into the bathroom when we hear movement coming from it?
@malikozipek4833
Жыл бұрын
From February 13th to 14th there must have been some noise and many discussions continued into the morning. Then, out of anger and desperation, she locked herself in the bathroom and Oscar Pistorius followed her. He might also have threatened her and then shot her out of anger. He killed such a beautiful woman. May she rest in peace😑
@nereidatorres7613
8 ай бұрын
SHE GOT A CALL FROM HER EX BOY FRIEND AND THAT TURN THE HEAT UP. I THINK THAT IS WHATE HE WAS FIGHTING ABOUT. HE IS A VERY POSESIVE PERSON.
@marisalombardi385
Жыл бұрын
🔒 him up, and throw away the 🗝️
@jeanettehinds4253
Жыл бұрын
He murdered that girl in cold blood. And why? Because he threw one almighty tantrum after he woke up and saw she had not carried out his strict instructions. "Bring in the fans and lock the door before you go to sleep." That's why he killed that girl. She was terrified of him and took off running. He was in such a rage and started slamming into that bathroom door with his bat, and that is when the neighbors heard " get the F..k out of my house" He then put on his prosthetics, grabbed that gun and fired. Instantly, he knew what he had done. He was blinded by rage. But came back down to earth with a bang. I don't know if he is still behind bars, I hope so. She was by all accounts a gentle, loving, giving soul, her only mistake was dating a narcissistic, sociopath with delusions of grandeur. Rest in peace sweet Lady.
@三島平八-f7y
3 жыл бұрын
Guy: What was she doing in the bathroom? Woman: Pooping?
@incognito6487
4 жыл бұрын
Well was the toilet filled with water or not would of solved one question as to why was she in there
@debbie7860
4 жыл бұрын
She wanted out of relationship I remember her what's app messages read out in court
@JONACAN
Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite presenters amongst all presenters.
@DBrccrawling
2 жыл бұрын
We dont have all those forensics in SA. They take fingerprints and photos
@MariTeabag-lf1ly
4 жыл бұрын
A film about making a film. NOT about Pistorius trial Forensics.
@omgitsjoetime
3 жыл бұрын
I almost shot my gf when I was 17 when she showed up unannounced at 2am at my parents house and started climbing through the window in my office room while I was on the computer cuz she didn’t want to wake up my parents. Still scares the shit out of me what almost happened
@davidvanniekerk3813
4 жыл бұрын
Dankie / Merci Journeyman Pictures for this educational video. One of the guest pointed out the status or class different between Oscar and Reeva. One thing you didn't said. South Africa have so much crime. The country is a crime going on.... What is the effect on ppl?
@helenduplessis4166
Жыл бұрын
These movie producers have to live in RSA for a year or 5 to understand the level of criminality here.
@kedibonemahasane6162
3 жыл бұрын
Captain Mngena was the man of the moment for me, he WAS at the crime scene.
@dr.wianmeintjes9028
4 жыл бұрын
I know you say a nation rocked to it's core. No death, murder and more is common. They where just famous.
@lejink
6 жыл бұрын
The lack of a double jeopardy law in SA seems a bit crazy to me The government could just charge you with a crime over and over again until you can't afford your legal counsel anymore, until they catch you broke and without the same public interest.. then get a conviction
@yrellim
6 жыл бұрын
It's the same crime just the sentencing was bias due to him being a celebrity, runner wealthy white boy x
@lejink
6 жыл бұрын
convicted of manslaughter, then charged with murder...over the death of the same person how can you be charged with 2 wrongful deaths of the same person
@tarynpeterbarlow5472
5 жыл бұрын
It wasn't DJ they found the judge who sentenced him the first time to have not understood certain things and judged incorrectly. Unfortunately it is very common with our current government. Her verdict was over thrown. So he was tried again
@robbylebotha
5 жыл бұрын
I'm not a lawyer but I think you guys are misunderstanding what double jeopardy actually means. It's not about the crime, it's about the charge. Oh and funny enough, I live in the same area as OP, have seen him a number of times. He was always down to earth and respectful to fans and staff.
@juniormasilela2319
5 жыл бұрын
@@robbylebothaand then ? What must we do
@lauriestebila6159
8 ай бұрын
He’s where he belongs to be in jail! He thought he was untouchable. Why didn’t he call out to who was in the bathroom. He knew what he was doing!
@79Firegirl
2 жыл бұрын
My question. How can the girlfriend find her way trough a unknown house, to the bathroom/toilet. If she went on free will to the bathroom she will put on the light. That lights off part I don’t believe if there was no argument/fight going on. She will leave the lights off if she is fleeing from him.
@lizmcguckin8612
4 жыл бұрын
He was very insecure & possesive......its such a sad storey
@MrCanadiansingh
3 жыл бұрын
She was so beautiful And this bastard killed her for jealousy
@cs7426
Ай бұрын
My heart goes out to the family of Reeva. The Netflix special concentrated more on his Career and his struggles as an amputee and His Olympic Accomplishments. Since when Does Celebrities status become more important then the lives of the victims and their families? They don't concentrate on the victim Reeva Steenkamp as much, such an insult to the family. Reeva couldn't handle Oscar's Insecurities, He was disabled inwardly. He could of been happy with the love of a beautiful women. But now she is dead. She confronted him and maybe decided enough was enough. He got angry, He was a coward a little boy in a mans' body! He got violent and killed her, killed his career, killed his family. Killed the people that believed in his cause. He will have to live with that secret for the rest of his life. Oscar Disabled very many people. HE IS A COWARD! Reply
@JilldeHal
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! "It's Oscar's story."
@Juicetheeunuch
3 жыл бұрын
That was the most disgusting line. They are giving him all the attention his disgusting ego wants.
@syngen462
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think people know how bad the crime is here in South Africa. I think it is entirely possible he thought it was a burglar.
@ellabella6099
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@pollyannaprinciple5860
3 жыл бұрын
This man needs to stay in prison for life. His future partners are not safe around him.
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