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@jemimus
Жыл бұрын
Love the timing. Just got done earlier today watching Jonathan's video on the ROKS-2 flamethrower over on the Royal Armories channel. Instantly searched for a video showcasing Flamethrowers in games and how they are all wrong. Didn't find it. Came back from my shopping and.. taadaaaa ;D
@avail57
Жыл бұрын
plutoniuuuuuum
@ChenAnPin
Жыл бұрын
Maybe not exactly a firearm, but would you guys consider looking into anti-personnel mines like claymores and bouncing betties? The way mines are depicted in games is oftentimes rather simplified (like just throw it or deploy it on the ground and forget about it) as well as highlight their troublesome history and legacy (and maybe showcase the opposite, of how mines are detected and defused/dealt with in games) If not, then would you guys look into crossbows? Keep up the great work!
@manz7860
Жыл бұрын
Do a video on how video games get recoil wrong
@TheSundayShooter
Жыл бұрын
@@manz7860 Recoil and muzzle flip are distinct, mind
@MannAusNapalm
Жыл бұрын
Btw for TF2: they depicted the flamethrower as something you could only use under the delusion of flowers and candy, as it's basically a warcrime. A really fun and honest trailer for TF2
@jakehildebrand1824
Жыл бұрын
Pyrovision has nothing to do with Pyros willingness to use the flamethrower. Pyrovision is more of a character building tool than anything else.
@PartyRockerOG
Жыл бұрын
@@jakehildebrand1824 yeah pyro doesn’t understand what he is doing. That’s why he is saying the only way you could physiologically use a flame thrower is with out knowing what you are truly doing to people
@jakehildebrand1824
Жыл бұрын
@@PartyRockerOG What about TFC pyro then? She is perfectly aware of what she's doing.
@Cat-uv7dy
Жыл бұрын
@@jakehildebrand1824she doesn’t look like she’s all good in the head, not like pyro, more like heavy but way, way worse
@jakehildebrand1824
Жыл бұрын
@@Cat-uv7dy still she is perfectly aware of what she's doing.
@johtajakansio
Жыл бұрын
The first Command & Conquer had the best flamethrowers i've come across
@JoshuaC923
Жыл бұрын
I can hear it
@FIVEBASKET
Жыл бұрын
When being not Realistic is terrible for you're gun
@homm3bonedragon242
Жыл бұрын
First DRG clip? DRG reacts episode confirmed???
@uria3679
Жыл бұрын
The flamethrower is either a midrange laser gun or just something to start a fire in games
@zaidkidwai7831
Жыл бұрын
BO3 purifier easily the most OP flamethrower I can think of 😂
@uria3679
Жыл бұрын
@@zaidkidwai7831 BO3?
@V3RAC1TY
Жыл бұрын
@@uria3679 call of duty black ops 3
@uria3679
Жыл бұрын
@@V3RAC1TY alright then
@visassess8607
Жыл бұрын
@@uria3679 Body Odor 3
@grahamhawes7089
Жыл бұрын
Rising Storm 1 had absolutely terrifying flamethrowers. Flames would roll along the floor, bounce off walls, and fill interior spaces like bunkers. Effective range was also pretty long. There were only 1 or 2 in the whole match. As the Japanese, if you saw flames, you crapped your pants. On the other hand, Japanese banzai charges were terrifying, and flamethrowers were one of the only good ways to stop them. What a great game, I miss it!
@THEFurfoot
Жыл бұрын
nothing quite like watching a 15 man banzai charge stop in the middle of an artillery barrage to unload into the guy with the flamethrower
@rileymcmann3744
Жыл бұрын
I never played rising storm 1. However, if the flamethrower is anything like it is in Rising Storm 2: Vietnam then it true it is terrifying
@THEFurfoot
Жыл бұрын
@@rileymcmann3744 imagine the rs2 flamethrower but almost no recoil and squads more grouped up
@jehoiakimelidoronila5450
Жыл бұрын
Every Japanese be actin' gangsta 'til someone brings a Flamethrower...
@Railhog2102
7 ай бұрын
M2 Flamethrower that used by USMC both in the Pacific theatre and Korea
@rafox66
Жыл бұрын
Rising storm 1 had the best/most realistic flamethrower I have seen in games. The US had the M2 flamethrower and I kept wondering why it stopped firing after a couple of times, even when the fuel tank was still full. It was only later that I figured out by watching forgotten weapons' video about the M2 that I had actually used up all the matches in the ignition cartridge and so the flamethrower couldn't fire anymore even though it had fuel left in the tank. I had never seen a detail like that in a game before, most flamethrowers in games just have some cooldown timer.
@grahamhawes7089
Жыл бұрын
This. So awesome. Loved the asymmetry in that game.
@rareraven
Жыл бұрын
Darktide
@staticaleel5068
Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough battlefield 5 for what little accuracy it has, also portrays the m2 like that. Granted the ignitions don’t run out, but you do reload a new ignition charge when reloading the flamethrower which is a nice detail even if it isn’t 100% realistic.
@jugojuice9512
Жыл бұрын
@@grahamhawes7089 Hmong 😅g g sg 17:18 nefefduuw gg ex CCg Ed Gmr g gI’m
@janslavik5284
Жыл бұрын
As much as Heroes & Generals got worse in the recent years it's the only game I know that actually let's you reload the ignition cartridges.
@jacobturnbull9424
Жыл бұрын
I do always find it daunting that during the first World War, flame troopers on both sides widely understood that they would never be taken prisoner which I think just adds to the psychological element of fighting a flamethrower, you know the person wielding it knows that they are such a target and yet still carries on
@griz312
Жыл бұрын
It’s funny how Germany utilized flame throwers and chemical weapons and thought the US using 12 gauge shotguns was a war crime.
@jacobturnbull9424
Жыл бұрын
@@griz312 the entire conflict was both sides bickering over who used what weapons, like Germany is widely condemned today for its use of Gas, but it was the French in 1915 who first deployed tear gas in warfare. With the use of flame, flechettes, sawtooth blades and all sort of nasty things neither side could really take the moral high ground about what their opponents used.
@gokuss15
Жыл бұрын
@@jacobturnbull9424 arguing for certain weapons to be considered war crimes has always been a hilarious idea to me. Like two roughly equal countries engage in a literal fight to the death but one goes “WAAAAAHHHHHHH, Shotguns are no fair”. Even more ridiculous is The Hague convention’s restriction of hollow points. As if that’s so much more terrible than hitting someone with a FMJ bullet.
@josedorsaith5261
Жыл бұрын
@@gokuss15 "Sounds like a skill issue"
@defenestrated23
Жыл бұрын
@@gokuss15 Picture this: you are in a dual with an evenly matched opponent. You get to pick between a shotgun with buckshot or a pistol, both parties get the same weapon. You are gonna be hurt or dead either way, but if you live, would you rather patch a few bullet holes, or extract dozens of ball bearings? This is in a microcosm the game theory behind the laws of war.
@bardbarbarian5313
Жыл бұрын
Deep Rock galactics flamethrower is great, up to 20m of range, the flames stick to the area for a while and to enemies and it feels satisfying to use against a horde of bugs
@Z0mb1k228
Жыл бұрын
I was hoping to see Deep Rock Galactic footage, I was not disappointed. Rock and stone!
@rareraven
Жыл бұрын
Darktide
@BorisTheRussian17798
Жыл бұрын
Rock and Stone
@ToriusHeart
Жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, Flamethrower with Face Melter and exploding bugs on direct damage death... Very satisfying popping.
@eyen22buck
Жыл бұрын
Best part? You can microwave them while they are burning for more damage. mmm popcorn
@Madjo-qj2ge
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: German Flamethrower were crewed by Firefighters and first guy that used it is named Bernhardt
@kaengurus.sind.genossen
Жыл бұрын
Well, it's basically reverse firefighting.
@ddegn
Жыл бұрын
@@kaengurus.sind.genossen If knife fighting is fighting with a knife, firefighting must be fighting with fire. Right? Thanks for the interesting trivia @user-js9ho4sh6zx. (That username just rolls off the tongue.)
@flyboymike111357
Жыл бұрын
I think the real reason that the US and NATO don't use backpack flamethrowers is that an incendiary or themermoberic rocket, grenade, or bomb is just more effective and doesn't necessarily pose the same risk to your own troops.
@MediocreHexPeddler
Жыл бұрын
Also pertinent is the tremendous and encumbering weight and size of the fuel tank.
@Jonnyg325
Жыл бұрын
M202 FLASH, same power as a flamethrower, at a range of about 1000 yards, and you get 4 shots. Mind you it does involve carting around a box launcher the size of a 1970s TV camera
@wafflestcattash4818
Жыл бұрын
Aren’t incendiary weapons a war crime?
@flyboymike111357
Жыл бұрын
@@wafflestcattash4818 Depends on the circumstances. Using them to disable equipment, mark targets with smoke, destroy fighting positions, etc is not illegal. But using them to deliberately target personnel is.
@Zynet_Eseled
Жыл бұрын
@@flyboymike111357 what about a self inserted canister model designed for the arctic, to help with breaking ice? Someone COULD theoretically use it for killing personnel, but that wouldnt be its primary purpose
@brilliantmonarch
Жыл бұрын
Killing Floor 1 has a great flamethrower, it actually shoots a stream of flaming liquid.
@Farengast
Жыл бұрын
Same for Turok. Way ahead of it's time on flamethrower realism.
@no5643
Жыл бұрын
@@FarengastI loved playing Turok evolution; shame the pc port is so buggy
@jaketeppis
Жыл бұрын
return to castle wolfenstein has also flamethrower that shoots flaming liquid.
@DavidCowie2022
Жыл бұрын
Another site once described real flamethrowers as firing "a stream of burning glue." That stayed with me.
@Zynet_Eseled
Жыл бұрын
Oh god...that honestly sounds truly gruesome...
@Sangth123
Жыл бұрын
Rising Storm 2 gets flamethrowers perfect. They have a longer range than most game adaptations and are incredibly lethal.
@tbotalpha8133
Жыл бұрын
They're also horrifying!
@ChrisB2007
Жыл бұрын
Seeing the flamethrowers used in The Thing and Alien always puts a smile on my face.
@InquirerAshen
Жыл бұрын
Guy who actually builds flamethrowers here. There is pretty much 0 chance you'd shoot a flamethrowers fuel tank with and incendiary round or any round and have it explode. Flamethrowers propellant is nitrogen and nitrogen is an inert gas. As the flamethrowers is used the fuel tank fills with nitrogen. There isnt any oxygen to create an explosive "air" fuel mixture. Flamethrower fuel can also have a very high Flashpoint depending on the mix, meaning the fuel is hard to ignite even if air is present and only through sufficient atomization and a powerful enough igniter can the fuel be reliably lit. In reality most kills attributed to flamethrowers happen as a result of the enemy forces breaking cover and being shot or deprived of oxygen. Its a terrifying weapon but not the harbinger of death its often made out to be. Cool for displays of power, not much of a role for modern combat.
@zwenkwiel816
Жыл бұрын
Still though you wouldn't want to be covered in fuel while spraying flames all over the place....
@chris.3711
Жыл бұрын
They proved themselves useful against defensive only combatants. Trench and tunnel warfare are pretty much dead by modern standards.
@mill2712
Жыл бұрын
@@chris.3711 Though the flamethrower isn't generally seen in war, trench warfare is seen on occasion. Notably in the Iran-Iraq in the 80s war and in some instances in the ongoing Russo-Ukraine war or in Syria at times.
@Tommy-5684
Жыл бұрын
in ww2 it was often found that the big killer when it comes to flamethrowers when used against bunkers was not the fire but carbon monoxide poisoning
@Debbiebabe69
Жыл бұрын
More likely asphyxiation than CO poisoning. The inventor of the fireproof suit died this way - he had scientists test the suit by flaming a pill box while he was stood inside, once the pillbox had cooled down they went inside and found him stone dead, asphyxiated (but totally unburned). Not that he would lead a happy healthy life if he survived - those suits were almost completely made of asbestos.
@MatthewMe
Жыл бұрын
I don't know if the horror genre "detaches" us from the awful history of the flamethrower, though I see the argument. It's one of the most horrific things we've created, and in many fictional settings it's the one and only item that allows us to match and overcome other horrors. Almost a way of of saying "yeah, you're undead or a have tentacles or are a giant spider demon, and have killed 50 of my friends and tormented me for days in dark hallways..... but we can be just as bad".
@smokedbeefandcheese4144
Жыл бұрын
You got a really good point and that is a very good comment. I would say it also probably has to deal with man’s fascination with fire as creative destruction. And a necessary evil because even today we still need fire for stuff and things also still catch on fire so it is like a tool but also can tempt us into our own Downfall with its power
@Cyfiero
8 ай бұрын
Also, fire is classically one of the most powerful means of expelling the supernatural. In old folklore, it was regarded as a purifying element whose light and heat purges the undead.
@TastyMackerel
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you mentioning RS2V several times in this video, it's got to have one of the, if not the best flamethrower in any games.
@PassTheSnails
Жыл бұрын
Gamespot loves talking about that game but not enough people play it 🥲 guys just get the game, it’s good I assure you
@christianwilliam1167
Жыл бұрын
oh yeah that game seems more like a horror movie I love it
@IrregularDave
Жыл бұрын
@@PassTheSnails I'm a big fan of that game. I think Vietnam shooters have a place in my heart since playing Vietcong back in 2003
@apesonwheels696
Жыл бұрын
For sure. Balancing around realism really allows it to be terrifying and powerful in the right application.
@marcos340loko
Жыл бұрын
A Loadout episode on the Barret M82 could be interesting, as it is hardly depicted correctly, and it would be possible to show how it should be used, there are several references of it being used incorrectly. It would be awesome if Jerry Miculek had a cameo with his impressive fast shooting of this gun.
@anttitheinternetguy3213
Жыл бұрын
Enlisted has a terrifying depiction of The flame thrower. When you see a 30m long flame hurdling towards your Squad you really want to just turn And run away
@FinneasJedidiah
Жыл бұрын
On the flip side, it is really satisfying when you clear 10+ people off a point by yourself with a flamethrower
@yetanother9127
Жыл бұрын
Recently I was playing _Ravenfield_ with Sofa's flamethrower mod, and it struck me how different it felt from most other video game flamethrowers. Aside from just dealing stupidly high damage at close to moderate range, it also set the terrain on fire, and killed enemies by proximity instead of just direct hits, making it great for the flamethrower's original use in real life--clearing enclosed spaces. You could blind a bunker with a smoke grenade, run up to it, put the muzzle of the flamethrower right up to the firing slit, and pull the trigger, killing _absolutely everyone_ inside and rendering the bunker uninhabitable to friends and enemies alike for a good five or ten seconds. Yikes.
@noneofyourbusiness3288
Жыл бұрын
7:54 shotguns are also often misunderstood in the exact same way: shotguns usually dont have a crazy spread and are very effective at ranges of 20m and beyond. also: one thing I never see represented in pop-culture is the silent killer: carbon monoxide (and dioxide) poisoning. The reason why you would use flamethrowers against fortifications is to literally "smoke them out".
@TheSilverShadow17
Жыл бұрын
Shotguns can shoot as far as any rifle could with slug rounds at the least. But anything else for ammo and they don't come close.
@Foddeur
Жыл бұрын
Hobo with a Shotgun's school bus scene is a horrific yet hilariously over the top portrayal of the flamethrower. Good to see the Wex get a shout, too! The wechselapparat. It apparats wechsels.
@kabardino1337
Жыл бұрын
An apparat to wech sels
@HU1212ICAN3
Жыл бұрын
Oh my god i forgot about that amazing movie!!!! Lol
@danielschott7550
Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't mention the the KILLZONE series. It has perhaps the most realistic flamethrower in my opinion.
@JeanLucCaptain
Жыл бұрын
they never talk about killzone I DON'T KNOW WHY.
@rapatacush3
Жыл бұрын
What is killzone?
@oxydoxxo
Жыл бұрын
@dafaq117 A great, but poorly handled series of fps games
@awolf6473
Жыл бұрын
Reactions to flamethrowers (as in like WaW where soldiers scream) reminds me of Far Cry 5 where cultists might try and run at you to take you down with them. Kind of neat to see their devotion to stopping you go that far.
@HaloFTW55
Жыл бұрын
Their nerves have probably been literally burnt out, so it’s likely that they can’t feel anything while charging you.
@Mr_T_Badger
Жыл бұрын
I recall using an incendiary arrow on a honey badger in Far Cry 4. I learned very quickly that the only thing worse than an immortal demon weasel was an immortal demon weasel who was on fire.
@awolf6473
Жыл бұрын
@@Mr_T_Badger Oh gods no...
@torgranael
Жыл бұрын
@@Mr_T_Badger I very quickly learned that flamethrowers are not an anti-bear weapon. Having a fireball the size of a car charging me while roaring was terrifying.
@Mr_T_Badger
Жыл бұрын
@@torgranael The cassowaries in FC3 were “fun” too. 🤣
@redheadsg1
Жыл бұрын
TBH, Far Cry 2 have the best fire "simulation", especially how fire is spreading through dried grass, bushes, trees and also accidently pile of tires and explode couple of fuel drums on the way.
@tiefensucht
Жыл бұрын
Didn't play FC2; was it different to FC3-6, which also have this fire mechanic?
@torgranael
Жыл бұрын
@@tiefensucht I think it spread a little more in 2 compared to 3. I found that you can easily get distracted by the chaos in FC2 and find yourself caught in the inferno you created during a firefight.
@foxinabox5103
Жыл бұрын
@@tiefensucht its more flammable rather than the other iterations. Also the backblast of the RPG can set things on fire
@lowlife1368
Жыл бұрын
In the metro universe. The homemade flamethrower is one of the best weapons to destroy the spider bugs with possibly the only weapon
@matthew_natividad
Жыл бұрын
The only weapon I’ll ever use against those things
@streetwatcher_
Жыл бұрын
Spider lair dlc mission anyone?
@matthew_natividad
Жыл бұрын
@@streetwatcher_ you know it
@lowlife1368
Жыл бұрын
@@streetwatcher_ a story of the most unlucky man alive
@streetwatcher_
Жыл бұрын
@@lowlife1368 including ending
@leandrogoethals6599
Жыл бұрын
enlisted doesn't shy away from it's power, the range is still quite short tough
@pyronuke4768
Жыл бұрын
Enlisted has pretty decent realistic flamethrower mechanics with decent range and sticky flames.
@-_Hatred_-
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, 32 meters range rocks!
@derheadbanger9039
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you included Depp Rock Galactic at the end. It has one of the best Flamethrowers in the genre - you can even choose to make your flames stickier, so they have a lingering effect. Rock and Stone!
@IrregularDave
Жыл бұрын
ROCK AND STONE
@wintrparkgrl
Жыл бұрын
FOR KARL!
@Mr_T_Badger
Жыл бұрын
ROCK AND STONE!
@wafflestcattash4818
Жыл бұрын
ROCK AND ROLL AND STONE
@anomaly-404
Жыл бұрын
ROCK AND STONE FOREVER!
@AlphalanceVO
Жыл бұрын
Halo 3 added a flamethrower as a heavy weapon, where the game pulls you to 3rd person and slows you down significantly, but I noticed you only get to use it against the Flood and in the multiplayer. Looking back, probably a safe move.
@Hypernefelos
Жыл бұрын
It's almost ridiculously effective against the flood and doesn't show a stream of liquid, but I appreciated how it sticks to the environment.
@AlphalanceVO
Жыл бұрын
@@Hypernefelos Super effective! Which is ironic, as a sudden flood would typically put out flames
@Railhog2102
7 ай бұрын
It was also in Halo CE too
@deathsyth8888
Жыл бұрын
"And what this indicates to me, it means that at some point, some person said to himself, "Gee, I sure would like to set those people on fire over there. But I'm way too far away to get the job done. If only I had something that would throw the flame on them."" - George Carlin and his thoughts on flamethrowers
@alexandriabrangwin
Жыл бұрын
Said it hundreds of times over the years "It's either so weak you never touch it, or so overpowered you touch nothing else"
@PitFriend1
Жыл бұрын
What annoys me most about flamethrowers in video games is the fact that they seldom actually set anything on fire other than the enemies, the player, or specific items in the game. Always seems goofy spraying flaming liquid all over the place and the wooden house, cloth furniture, and dry grass nearby is completely unaffected.
@torgranael
Жыл бұрын
The fire was one of my favourite things about the Far Cry games. Igniting a small patch of grass and watching it spread into a raging inferno in the Sahara is always satisfying.
@foxinabox5103
Жыл бұрын
@@torgranael surrounding a camp in fire and watch as the troopers run into them, really despicable :)
@Xenogamer1871
Жыл бұрын
The Waffle House has found it’s new hpst
@FIVEBASKET
Жыл бұрын
the waffle House has found its new host
@Ryann9
Жыл бұрын
The Waffle House has found its new host
@bossness3193
Жыл бұрын
The waffle house has found its new host
@jaggoff6949
Жыл бұрын
The waffle house has found its new host
@falloutfart9917
Жыл бұрын
The Waffle House has found it’s new host
@coolnessfactor1
Жыл бұрын
Mr. Furguson does have the coolest title. "Keeper of Firearems & Artillery, Royal Armouries." That title alone makes me want to work for him :)
@titanpser8239
Жыл бұрын
16:45. Did I hear... A ROCK AND STONE?
@jakobsmith2573
Жыл бұрын
ROCK AND STONE
@efbiaj
Жыл бұрын
ROCK AND STONE
@Zaxeras
Жыл бұрын
We're Rich!
@Aaahrg
Жыл бұрын
Hans get ze flammenwerfer!
@Zaxeras
Жыл бұрын
The best flamethrower is the one you use at the end of Darkwood not because of its impact itself, but because of the way you "use" it to end the game.
@rareraven
Жыл бұрын
Darktide
@youngthaiarfssoldier8732
Жыл бұрын
It's extremely effective on woods. I saw the ending descriptions.
@KataIIama
Жыл бұрын
Cod world at war flamethrower is devastating in close quarters
@kotoribrashers7034
Жыл бұрын
Propane? Hank Hill approves.
@MosoKaiser
Жыл бұрын
And propane accessories.
@troyjardine5850
Жыл бұрын
I take it at some point you will do a video on improvised weapons, as while watching this I kept thinking about the common trope of the "improvised flamethrower" aka lighter + aerosol can.
@smokedbeefandcheese4144
Жыл бұрын
Honestly that is not even a flamethrower. When I think of improvised flamethrowers I think of stuff that people make in their garage is that is actually using a pressurized fuel in a backpack mounted device with a dedicated projector. Made out of scraps and junk.
@Stevenwave-
Жыл бұрын
@@smokedbeefandcheese4144 Yeah it's more in line with being more of an improvised blowtorch, like how Dave mentioned a lot of flamethrowers tend to act more like. An improvised weapons ep could be really interesting though. Look at how it's done wrong, with stuff that'd never work. And look at ones that would actually make a lot of sense in context.
@darthplagueis13
Жыл бұрын
Personally, I'm quite partial to the CRISPR in Deep Rock Galactic. I don't think it's super realistic (but also not the least realistic option out there by a long shot) but the setting allows it to be used at its full glorious potency, incinerating dozends of creepy space bugs in seconds. Baseline range is only 10 meters, but it will leave trails of flame on surfaces and depending on the upgrades you choose, you can also double that range. It's also a generally good pick, making easy work of large hordes and dealing reliable and consistent damage to elites.
@bardbarbarian5313
Жыл бұрын
Rock and stone brother! absolutely agreed, the CRISPR is just one of the most satisfying flamethrowers in video games in my opinion
@Chasmodius
Жыл бұрын
Interesting to mention low ammo count as a gameplay mechanic, and not discuss the reality of how long (and often, how many discrete times) actual examples could be used for. Also would have been interesting to tie into the FarCry3 example that flamethrowers in Vietnam were most commonly used for deforestation (if I've got that history right). Range is an interesting question, because most games portray combat at vastly reduced ranges compared with reality, mainly for reasons of gameplay fun, but also hardware and programming limitations. The thing I think most games really miss is the psychological effect of different weapons on the battlefield. Was it that Vietnam game recently that had a mechanic of inducing "tunnel vision" when rounds passed close by the player? But still, enemies almost never flee, and the range of combat is always at essentially face-to-face. As I understand it, real combat happens at ranges where you're lucky to even see the enemy, and more commonly soldiers shoot in the general direction -- basically saying "stay away from here, we have guns." But that doesn't seem like it would make for an interesting game. On the question of the real horrors of these weapons, I think _Spec Ops: the Line_ did it best -- admittedly with White Phosphorus mortars rather than flamethrowers, but the same reaction applies.
@sainterasmus4545
Жыл бұрын
It speaks to the brutality of WW1 and 2 that such weapons existed. Could you ever even imagine seeing Marines clearing buildings in a place like Fallujah with flamethrowers?
@supremecaffeine2633
Жыл бұрын
Flamethrowers were actively used by, at least, the US military up until 1978, but are occasionally used to clear brush.
@Nerdsammich
Жыл бұрын
An article in the Army Times back in 2003 or so mentioned talk in the Pentagon of deploying flamethrowers to clear caves in Afghanistan.
@sainterasmus4545
Жыл бұрын
@@supremecaffeine2633 Yeah, there's terrifying footage of them burning villages down in Vietnam, likely didn't help with public perception.
@supremecaffeine2633
Жыл бұрын
@@sainterasmus4545 Depends of how the media spun the story. Villages with often used by the Vietcong as garrisons. The media managed to manipulate the public into believing the Tet Offensive was a defeat when it was an overwhelming victory.
@Muakhah
Жыл бұрын
In 2015 China used flamethrowers in Xinjiang to "lure" suspected terrorists out of a cave. It was reported proudly on State Media. Not every culture or military cares about morals or optics.
@Gameprojordan
Жыл бұрын
Video games treat flamethrowers like spraying a can of axe body spray infront of a lit lighter. The only game I played that really portrayed flamethrowers relatively realistically was in the japanese campaign missions in COD WAW, where it's actually shooting a straight line of molten gel at a relatively long range.
@EnbyCatboyGF
Жыл бұрын
The Division had a lot of flamethrower boom happening with it's faction of "The Cleaners" I remember one boss in particular having several tanks strapped to him that you could shoot to detonate.
@anaccountimadeingym3544
Жыл бұрын
What a treat. Get off from my night shift, come home to find a bafass video all about flamethrowers. This channel never disappoints.
@IrregularDave
Жыл бұрын
@Mr_T_Badger
Жыл бұрын
The Royal Armouries channel did a nifty video on a soviet flamethrower, the ROKS-3, that was shaped like a rifle just recently too.
@anaccountimadeingym3544
Жыл бұрын
@@Mr_T_Badger Sounds pretty nifty. Gonna have to add it into my Modern Day DnD campaign if it's everything I hope it is.
@janslavik5284
Жыл бұрын
Enlisted has long range flamethrowers that leave burning patches on the ground for a few second, pretty realistic if you ask me.
@NOOSE2008
Жыл бұрын
Please Do gta 4 and/or gta 5 part 2 and I will be happy.
@ElectronicFirstOfficial
Жыл бұрын
The flamethrower in video games is pretty much a glorified laser gun 💀
@IMPERIALOZ
Жыл бұрын
Or laser guns are glorified flamers
@AtomicEy
Жыл бұрын
being a far cry fan i feel obligated to watch
@drearyplane8259
Жыл бұрын
The recoil of Rising Storm 2's flamethrower really gives you a sense of the power
@vaultechwithsoup6569
Жыл бұрын
The TF2 flamethrower having a short range makes sense as it was hand-made using a propane tank, making it a propane flamethrower
@WutipongWongsakuldej
Жыл бұрын
I want an episode on healing items :)
@Yoel_Mizrachi
Жыл бұрын
Emotional support sturmgewehr have healing powers
@capatinswifty
Жыл бұрын
Rs2 definitely has the best flamethrower around. You can feel the "pressure " trying to throw it off target. having to reel it back in as you hear the screams of vc
@absentmindedshirokuma8539
Жыл бұрын
Flamethrower while no longer commonly use in direct combat, it still very effective in burning down buildings or vegetation. It recorded being used as recent as a month ago in Myanmar civil war.
@corneliusmcmuffin3256
Жыл бұрын
The thing about flamethrowers is… they don’t shoot flames. They shoot burning liquid.
@tysoncook5152
Жыл бұрын
Deep Rock Galactic has a pretty good flamethrower design. I you hit the ground it sticks and keeps burning for a few seconds and feels pretty great to use.
@colbunkmust
Жыл бұрын
UN treaties won't save the Moebian Sixth on Tertium from the cleansing flame of the Emperor
@TehAlekzi
Жыл бұрын
The first time I saw a flamethrower in a game was in Syphon Filter 1 on Playstation 1. It had a bossfight in the Freedom Memorial against a flamethrower wielding man named Girdeux. The fight was pretty well done as the flamethrower spew arcing beam of flame that set the floor on fire and if you got hit with it, it was pretty much instant death. The fight was also pretty gimmicky as the boss was clad in armor you couldn't shoot through, so you had to shoot the fuel tank on his back and everytime you hit it, it made a small explosion until the screen faded to black and a cutscene played where the protagonist walked away whilst the man was burning alive in the background screaming.
@Mr_T_Badger
Жыл бұрын
Yup, that was a good fight. There was a section in Syphon Filter 2 where you got to use an improvised flamethrower, which was basically a petrol tanker hose with some sort of improvised pilot light.
@michaellarocca4879
Жыл бұрын
I remember that one. Then in the second one you find his charred remains in a morgue.
@The-Spanish-Inquisition490
Жыл бұрын
You'll be telling us the games got death wrong next.... *spoiler* There's no respawning.
@Rrgr5
Жыл бұрын
Those are mostly indirect fire weapons, mostly because the operator is too exposed when using directly and their effectiveness is dislodging the enemy, most of the KIA are from asphyxiation rather than burning (which is terrible enough), that's why their evolution was rocket carried, like the Soviet LPO, is less cumbersome and it does the same job with a longer range, technically, using it directly would be configured as a war crime, they mostly aren't, but I saw some footage in Iwo Jima when they were, and it was horrible.
@C0LdP5yCh0
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always guys! Although it has to be said, you missed a chance to highlight possibly one of the most gratifying-to-use flamethrowers of the last decade - the LPB-T Thermite Gun from Syndicate (2012). You get it exactly once in the game, halfway through a level full of narrow corridors that suits it perfectly, and to top it off it doesn't just project a stream of fire - it throws out a stream of searing 3,500°C liquid metal that pretty much instakills everybody you're likely to encounter for the remainder of the level. Perfect.
@xsisipxsisip3928
Жыл бұрын
This episode reminded me of the Channel "Ahoy" and his series "iconic arms". Maybe you could collaborate with him as his videos are very well researched and in a similar style as yours.
@TheSundayShooter
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps inspired by, but the styles are not comparable and having Stuart Brown (XboxAhoy) on would be too many cooks in the kitchen
@carsonm7292
Жыл бұрын
Day of Infamy's flamethrower really does give you pause also. It's incredibly powerful but limited to one per team, and you always know when one is in the area because the death screams are really horrific.
@toaolisi761
Жыл бұрын
Dave can't get through a single episode without saying "iconic".
@IrregularDave
Жыл бұрын
Drink every time I say it
@bchearne
Жыл бұрын
Real flamethrowers certainly don’t seem sporting. But war rarely is
@MrOiram46
Жыл бұрын
And then there’s incendiary shotgun rounds 💀
@CAP198462
Жыл бұрын
The Salamanders chapter of the Adeptus Astartes approve of this topic.
@akumaking1
Жыл бұрын
The CnC Generals Chinese Flame Tank is pretty close to how real flamethrowers work
@bigmonke7661
Жыл бұрын
I don't think any game has gotten it closer than Rising Storm 2 Vietnam
@DreamingOfTheHeart
Жыл бұрын
Foxhole’s flamethrower (seen very early in the video) is primarily used as an anti-structure weapon, and it retains that heavy clunkiness used to wield it. I think it demonstrates it’s horrific capacity as a support tool quite well.
@christianterrill3503
Жыл бұрын
Germany all mad we used shotguns for trench warfare but they were totally cool with freaking flame throwers!!! Fire is way more brutal then a shotgun.....
@KaizoeAzurum
Жыл бұрын
It is always funny to think about how upset they got about the shotgun and then where using some of the most inhumane weapons. Gas and flame throwers are a-okay, shotguns are cheaty!
@vinceely2906
Жыл бұрын
I am on fire - I am still shooting back
@FilupGraves
Жыл бұрын
The flammenwerfer from WAW was historically accurate using the single man flammenwerfer 35 that could spit a flame 18 meters
@ShiningEyeBrigade
Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the thoughtful, interesting approach to covering this.
@IrregularDave
Жыл бұрын
@gandharvtenali7085
Жыл бұрын
RS1/2 Flamethrowers are the most realistic in all of gaming
@acceptablecasualty5319
Жыл бұрын
The Flamethrower in games either behaves like a short-range LMG/Shotgun hybrid or a glorified Zippo lighter.
@stravvman
Жыл бұрын
So and what flame from flamethrower should look like?
@heinrichbaker8471
Жыл бұрын
Helldivers has a great representation of flamethrowers
@franzbauer1367
11 ай бұрын
wow I am amazed that our dear friend johnathan ferguson got something wrong for once. The "Wechelapparat" or "Wex" was not a copy of the "Flamethrower, portable, No 2" but the other way around. i assume this is due to bias of him being a brit :)
@patrikhjorth3291
Жыл бұрын
Dave, your puns in this episode were nearly as horriffic as the subject matter itself, but you made up for it with that line about "the Gift of Prometheus" at the end. Btw, that clip from the Division at 9:50 concerns one enemy faction in the game, who use craft-made flame throwers made from repurposed fire extinguishers (ironically) and other containers. Those things very likely don't have the same security features as military versions, but even if they wouldn't explode if shot, I doubt that having a pressurised container of sticky, flammable liquid spring a leak on their back would be conducive to the user's health and well-being.
@brandonmoore3725
Жыл бұрын
Still remember hearing the sound it made in world at war, so viscerally badass. awesome video as always
@theblondesiouxsiesioux
Жыл бұрын
My Father is a Vietnam veteran, He told me that his platoon was issued Flame-throwers (not him personally). Regardless, he told me he never saw tanks get ignited by small arms fire. But one time they got pinned down, and one of the flame troopers stepped on a mine, and as my Dad said "Yeah, that time the tanks ignited".
@TiJoe6
Жыл бұрын
I remember Killzone 2 being the first time I experienced a more “realistic” flamethrower in video games.
@sebastianalhares
Жыл бұрын
It also made the final boss a joke. Flame him once, he doesn’t stop dancing till he’s dead.
@XenoSpyro
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, in AVP Classic, firing a flamethrower at (without hitting) any bot alien will cause it to freeze in place and play a taunt animation.
@FigmentHF
Жыл бұрын
All WW2 games should be at least somewhat harrowing, brutal and genuinely disturbing. I feel like it’s disrespectful to turn such a devastating conflict into light entertainment after work. If you just wanna switch off and relax and have a fun time, avoid games about relatively recent, tragic historical violence imo. I feel war is generally too normalised, it’s not always presented as being as absurd and barbaric as it truly is. It’s 2023 and scenes almost identical to WW2 are currently playing out in Eastern Europe. WW2 games should always aim to make us realise how utterly ridiculous it is that we spend so much time and effort on blasting pieces of metal through each other. The entire history of human conflict has been one big confused team scoring own goal after own goal and cheering like morons after each and every pseudo victory.
@FigmentHF
Жыл бұрын
Was anyone else struck by the absurdity of us having 50 cal snipers, tactical nukes, pistols, tanks etc, but we’re drawing the line at flamethrowers cause that’s a bit violent and cruel? It’s like a Monty Python sketch, us humans are a hopelessly lost, confused, idiotic band of (relatively) hairless apes lol
@kylemackinnon5696
8 күн бұрын
Fun fact: in world at war a lot of the troops you burn arnt screaming in japaneese but in digalo(philipines) because they were pressed into service after occupation
@Gyarretto7
Жыл бұрын
My favorite Flamethrower? The Pokemon move! It's a strong, useful attack, tried and true since 1996, and no Fire-Type Pokemon is complete without it. Also, Gyarados can learn it.
@aquaplush7531
Жыл бұрын
The game Hatred actually has a pretty good flamethrower in my opinion. You actually wear a fuel backpack, and it isn’t just a small little flame; It’s a fearsome cone of fiery death, and you can set a building completely on fire in about 10-15 seconds. Despite the game’s… controversial nature, at least they did incendiary weaponry well! Another thing the game does well is rockets launchers; The rockets fire fast and hit hard, instead of flying painfully slowly.
@jehoiakimelidoronila5450
Жыл бұрын
Who in this blue planet wouldn't love burning Marijuana plantations with a Flamethrower... With dub music playing in the background? Also, "having the gift of prometheus in the palm of their hand" is the best way to saying/describing it
@ARWINGx1
Жыл бұрын
Normally, I hate Flamethrowers, due to how little damage they do, for the amount of ammo/fuel used. Payday 2 was an exception, just fire long enough to set everyone on fire, then let the DoT finish them off after a sec. or 2
@ducoschollmeijer4841
Жыл бұрын
POV: Its 1945, the DDAY invasion. You are a german sitting in a bunker. You hear a loud WWOOOOSH and all of a sudden... The doom music kicks in
@radectheinsane4579
Жыл бұрын
The waffle house has found it's new host
@insertusername9755
Жыл бұрын
There is a reason why this is in tvtropes.
@ThatBeTheQuestion
5 ай бұрын
I never go with flamethrowers in games because regardless of what the actual stats may be, I always *feel* like I'm underequipped using them. They always feel like the DPS is far lower than what it should be to be worth considering. If I were to ever be enticed to actually use a flamethrower in a game, it would need to have effectiveness and range akin to that of its real-life counterpart, and I've yet to encounter that in a game.
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