You need to make a video where you collab with an ultimate pro, and you each play each other in your respective games! That would be incredibly interesting
@marcv.2387
Жыл бұрын
That idea is so good that I don't understand why nobody did this before
@jojivlogs_4255
Жыл бұрын
@@marcv.2387 mew2king and salem did this with at least melee, dont know if they also did an ultimate session
@Pal42_
Жыл бұрын
@@jojivlogs_4255 also hungrybox and samsora iirc
@megamanxfan02
Жыл бұрын
@@marcv.2387 I think Void & Mango played when ultimate 1st came out
@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569
Жыл бұрын
@@marcv.2387 I'm pretty sure Riddles and Hbox did this recently.
@codetaku
Жыл бұрын
Hahah I watched that side event live. My favorite part was the post-tournament interview where sparg0 said something like "I don't really understand Melee, I just try to copy what Zain does."
@slenderMax28
5 ай бұрын
as a newbie Marth main, this too true
@2FadeMusic
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an ultimate side event at melee summit, they should do it for both games at least once a year
@Holygiant
Жыл бұрын
Spargo plays Melee Marth just like he plays Ultimate Cloud. Really unique approach to that character lol
@DontLikeTryHards
Жыл бұрын
dope video! some great insights into what carried over for these players from ultimate, which was really entertaining. One suggestion I have is that I'd recommend setting up your camera in a way where you don't look like you're looking down as much, so the viewers feel more personally engaged. Loved it regardless, cant wait for the next one!
@Jmook11
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion! I do have chat set up at a lower angle so I'll keep that in mind for next time :)
@kkahakusan5591
Жыл бұрын
That impression 10/10
@firstlast-wg2on
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve played so much ultimate and lately I’ve been switching to melee, at the end of the day the pure concepts of neutral and pushing advantage/escaping disadvantage, reading, conditioning, etc. is all there, but it’s a matter of getting more in touch with the engine itself and to another extent the meta (though that’s obviously always changing). I really love that I’m learning melee after having play ultimate though because I feel that it’s a great game for having good fundamentals, whereas with melee when I first played it years ago I noticed that it was mostly punish and tech skill that would carry me. Now I’m back at ground zero, but my fundamentals are strong enough that I actually understand why I choose to do certain more complex movement options (for example), and can contextualise them into gameplay faster. While I’m getting beaten more because there are those players who are just faster than me, but I also learn so much more from each match.
@farmingsim9813
Жыл бұрын
I just started playing Melee this week after years of Ultimate and its definitely execution that's the hardest thing for me to adapt to, basic neutral and game feel/fundamentals are there, but it's a big adjustment to grasp basically no buffer after being used to massive buffer.
@samskott2344
Жыл бұрын
Given that you play Ultimate, it probably won't take you long to get pretty good at Melee. Once you're over that initial learning curve and you start to get a good feel for the flow/speed of the game, you'll likely be better than most average Melee players. Most low level and even mid level Melee players try to go fast but avoid fundamentals like the plague, lol.
@Emil-Roma
Жыл бұрын
Jmook self-narrated documentary when? “He was walking, or, as the community had to come redefine the term: Jwalking, towards his opponents.”
@Gupshup324
Жыл бұрын
Hype! It'd be cool to see jmook try out Ultimate sheik
@NeoNeoNeo
Жыл бұрын
Drag down upair life
@jeffreyberling2401
Жыл бұрын
This analysis was incredible my dude! Can't wait for more jontent and I'm hype to see what you got down the road 👹
@MasterAbeer101
Жыл бұрын
Jmook KZitem Channel about to be so goated
@DenDhur
Жыл бұрын
Damn, that narrator impression was spot on👏🏼
@Stel_TV
Жыл бұрын
The Jborhood has made its way to KZitem 👀 I remember being in the stream for this and you already answered this in the video but what are your thoughts on the idea of either Melee and/or Ultimate players doing a 64 event at a Summit? I know 64 can feel like a combo video/0 to-death simulator but I think it could be fun to see players like Wizzy able to showcase their 64 skills at Summit. Also, unless I forgot, would you play in an Ultimate side event at a Summit? And, if you did play it a bit, who do you play in it? Can't wait for more Jcontent! 👏
@Jmook11
Жыл бұрын
If they provide it, I'll run it. We'll see if Wizzy can be stopped HAHA
@kestrelynn
Жыл бұрын
Jmook said on this stream that he played sheik but struggled with bouncing fish conversions
@hnazgul
Жыл бұрын
Would love to see more Jmook analysis
@joebloggs1691
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. An ult side event at a melee summit would go so hard.
@TimmWith2Ms
Жыл бұрын
Jmook making the case for melee's David Attenborough with that voice
@nickloughner7512
Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work man amazing first vid of this style
@bluemonkek
Жыл бұрын
You should consider having your music on stream be a separate channel that doesn't make it to the VOD to avoid the music overlaps (like at 0:25), also helps VODs not get copywritten.
@NeedelsSmash
Жыл бұрын
Im a smash player who plays ultimate and has been switching to melee. This analysis was incredibly well done, if these players had more game knowledge they could be great at both games. Great video and you’re the reason im switching to melee!
@OranguBANG
Жыл бұрын
Yo my homie needels. Curious on your melee main ??
@NeedelsSmash
Жыл бұрын
@@OranguBANG i have to play sheik for the sake of the gag since my name is needels. But sheik is also just dope
@pedrogoncalves4585
Жыл бұрын
U dropping ultimate?
@NeedelsSmash
Жыл бұрын
@@pedrogoncalves4585 nah not fully, ill still play it in videos, but ill go to less tournaments
@pedrogoncalves4585
Жыл бұрын
@@NeedelsSmash nice, I've been enjoying your videos since the Eminem dk lol
@tm_14_44
Жыл бұрын
Sick video! Took same journey to melee from ult a year ago and it was worth it.
@berrycrepes
Жыл бұрын
Loved seeing Ultimate pros playing Melee even if it was a side event. I've come from Ultimate community and started playing Melee for almost 2 months now and seeing the pros play Melee too made me happy because Melee is such a great game :)
@quentebarchiveeoutrascoisa8036
Жыл бұрын
I was wishing o for some jmook jcontent since i saw you at gg. Waiting for more
@mrchinosofexodar
Жыл бұрын
Great editing, and great charisma from Jmook for content creation! Subbed; hope to see you make it all the way here kid!
@samskott2344
Жыл бұрын
This is really cool to see. You're right, their actual gameplay isn't top pro level but their fundamentals are still top notch. Spargo reminds me of like HBK or other old school Marths with how he waits, takes what is given to him and has efficient (but not super flashy) combos in the punish game.
@RoRo13890
Жыл бұрын
Great video, and really well edited! Very excited for more uploads :)
@Gare_
Жыл бұрын
Jmook content king era incoming
@pr00t33
Жыл бұрын
sparg0 being 16 makes this so crazy
@kennythekid130
Жыл бұрын
We are jwalking all over the algorithm today.
@ThisIsWEB
Жыл бұрын
Good job Casper and Jmook Time to Showcase Excellence, ehh? 💪
@cortonimor
Жыл бұрын
Yooo the smash doc narrator impression was gas
@stllr_
Жыл бұрын
that doc narrator part at the end killed me LMAO. way too good
@alexthepenguin3674
Жыл бұрын
have a comment for the algorithm :3 (big fan of your gameplay and love to see the content!)
@Michael-hc2hp
Жыл бұрын
There was once a time when Tweek played against Mew2King in Melee, he Tweek got a pretty sick up b on M2K
@Kylerulez666
Жыл бұрын
Holy shit that smash doc narrator impression was spot on
@Mike-eo3ht
Жыл бұрын
just called up the chief... he said this was it
@Quoise_
Жыл бұрын
Omg I love this. Your sheik is so sick and inspiring glad to see you make contact.
@vanillafella4893
Жыл бұрын
i stopped paying attention and i thought your outro played a clip from the documentary but it was actually just an impression🤯
@bdellovibrioo5242
Жыл бұрын
Just looking at game 1 Kola v Spargo - Spargo's juggle was so good, even when Kola picked a tricky defensive option with the shine stall.
@ONLY_RR7
Жыл бұрын
If you plan on doing more of this type of content, I’d love to see you watch Sparg0 and MkLeo’s FT5 at GenAssist
@jasonvargo5435
Жыл бұрын
Wow!
@mitchh0279
Жыл бұрын
Just for the smash doc impressions, I have subbed 🤣 Good vid tho Jmook
@matrixyst
Жыл бұрын
the content 👀
@Varikes
Жыл бұрын
not gonna lie watching Sparg0's Marth reminded me of how M2K played Marth which is kinda interesting considering M2K coaches him
@tokisuno
Жыл бұрын
that doc voice impression is so sick omg
@theowayne5401
Жыл бұрын
Jmook content let's gooo
@Space_Lion
Жыл бұрын
Perfect acting at 6:30, no notes
@bradcorvi2689
Жыл бұрын
HEAT
@athought1110
Жыл бұрын
Finally some content on the Jmook channel
@pr0mhell
Жыл бұрын
sick vid
@anacobra558
Жыл бұрын
they are so good at smash as a game that despite the lack of real melee knowledge they are still playing well especially with the fundamentals and neutral
@jackfrogge
Жыл бұрын
good to see the goat in my recommended
@cbass2238
Жыл бұрын
I’m stuck thinking about the fact that Spargo is younger than Melee itself, plays a different smash game, and is still way better at it than I am.
@bozardo101
Жыл бұрын
Finally, a melee player that positively constructs ultimate players fundamentals of Smash in Melee rather than saying "they suck"
@Sapreme
Жыл бұрын
No top melee player had that sentiment about Ultimate since like 2019 lol Quit being one of the haters
@bozardo101
Жыл бұрын
@@Sapreme I'm trying to understand what you mean by "no melee player had that sentiment." I thought Jmook is a melee player and he just showed here in this video. Do you agree?
@Sapreme
Жыл бұрын
@@bozardo101 melee players stop hating on ultimate players since the first ultimate summit. Both sides have come to the agreement that neither games is requires more skill than the other. Melee players respect ultimate player's monsterous neutral game ability and maintaining advantage, while ult players have learned to respect melee player's speed, edgeguarding and willingness to push an advantage, techchasing, etc. the only ones still hating on eachother are the idiots on twitter that haven't played the other game and super casuals that say they "main" 9 different characters in their bios
@bozardo101
Жыл бұрын
@@Sapreme For sure, I definitely agree with you. It absolutely makes sense. So I am wondering why you said "quit being one of the haters" If we agree on the same thing. We're you originally referring to me? Was there something, my comment that made made you think I was a "hater?" With my original comment, I said I was glad that there was finally a melee player that actually appreciates Ultimate players. Did you you think I meant that in a negative way?
@firewall5189
Жыл бұрын
@@Sapreme idk man, i still see people dunking on the other side quite often
@grgradivus
Жыл бұрын
It's super nice to see how fundamentals translate from Melee to Ultimate (and viceversa, of course) and how players bring their experience with a different smash in another one, but one thing in particular I personally found cool was at 1:22: In Ultimate edgeguarding is def riskier, recoveries are stronger and being at the ledge is scary. A good way to pressure recoveries while not giving up the advantageous position on stage is to run off stage and jump back while leaving a good hitbox, disjointed or long-lasting. Seeing spargo doing that with Marth dair was so funny! On a side note, at the beginning of Ultimate I remember how players coming from S4 and Melee tried different stuff with the punish game. Coming from S4, a lot of players found themselves comfortable staying at the ledge developing a ledgetrap, wich was super strong in S4. But I remember Armada doing crazy stuff offstage, wich was a bit more unexplored by S4 players. Of course, Ultimate then developed in a way wich is more similar to S4 than Melee, but seeing a different approach to the matter was really interesting, in retrospective. Glad I saw this video, keep it up :)
@xx_ggplot2_xx
Жыл бұрын
DAY 1 MOOK KZitem FAN
@ubberJakerz
Жыл бұрын
Definitely surprised by how many techniques these guys knew that were specific to melee. Of course, you would expect a ton of skills transfer, but stuff like shine wavedash upsmash?? Wild bro
@Non-disjunction
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I wonder how much experience they already had with melee. Absolute beginners cant waveshine upsmash from ledge
@ubberJakerz
Жыл бұрын
@@Non-disjunction Maybe transfer from pm or p+ or something
@christomanci
Жыл бұрын
No effin way that impression is on point! Thought it was justva recording at first.
@TheIceyBlade
Жыл бұрын
Funny combos lads
@TheLeviMiller
Жыл бұрын
The mook🤨🤨🤨
@shaon8896
Жыл бұрын
Wsg Mr. Mook
@gilchoi1518
Жыл бұрын
This video was the perfect amount of spooky I wouldn’t make your videos more spooky I also wouldn’t make them less spooky Maybe more spooky if you had to choose between more or less spooky But this video was right in the spooky pocket without being too deep in the pocket that you’re like by the ankles, but also not like up out of the pocket rubbing on your belt. If you were going to make a really spooky video you could add more mummies. The number of mummies in this video was 0, which is good- as far as numbers go. I’m going to watch it again to see if I miscounted- spookier things have happened.
@lorenzo689
Жыл бұрын
Algocomm
@drainstorM11
Жыл бұрын
I think an Ult side bracket would be worse because it would take too long, but also, I don't know, because this shows that the playstyle matters a lot. Maybe Melee players would be more rush down than Ultimate's pros. Who knows?
@ericzaragoza1353
Жыл бұрын
🎆🐙🎇jmook
@invalidssb
Жыл бұрын
Hi Jmook o/
@nuke9915
Жыл бұрын
i gotta see top ultimate and melee players fight in brawl
@x9x9x9x9x9
Жыл бұрын
They ar way better than I expected. Most of the time when I see an ult player try melee. There is very little wave dashing or L cancelling.
@fritothedemon6647
Жыл бұрын
JTube
@wsg_smash1560
Жыл бұрын
Lehhhhhh
@redviperhd6587
Жыл бұрын
Semi new to melee and I notice most pro players hardly air dodge? Is there any reason for this other than purely punishment reasons? Is air dodging more vulnerable in melee than in ultimate?
@nemi9217
Жыл бұрын
Air dodging puts you in free fall, it’s super laggy, and it’s hard to do when you gotta attack out of tumble to airdodge. And there’s not that neutral air dodge thing to fast fall down like in Ultimate
@Greenix
Жыл бұрын
Hi Jmook
@bladefox5082
6 ай бұрын
He looks so young here wth
@Yvs8962
Жыл бұрын
Some of these guys would be seriously good if they made the switch to Melee
@richard8670
Жыл бұрын
Challenge for this guy: Don't say "like" after every 4th word
@jayeckart9234
Жыл бұрын
Comment for algorithm
@LordFartamor
Жыл бұрын
Hi jmook
@gwen6622
Жыл бұрын
it's sick cause like... sure, they aren't as well versed in melee-specific stuff (though they CLEARLY know a lot), but one thing they definitely know is just how to compete and stuff. like yeah, mixups and reads and situational awareness and stuff. like even if they didnt know a lot of techskill, it'd still be interesting because it'd be clear that they were at least thinking of how to beat the opponent in the right way. but of course, they do know a lot of techskill haha. i guess theyve probably all played a decent amount of slippi onstream and stuff lol
@jpoggi9081
Жыл бұрын
and he's a content fiend what can't he do
@shinthemin
Жыл бұрын
I think mango would win the ult side event
@drewf8619
Жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion... Ultimate is a "better game" than Melee.
@floatingshoppinglist5193
Жыл бұрын
They aren't good at melee. To be good at melee you have to play for hundreds of hours if not thousands
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