I do not care if its not meta, the model is beautiful
@huntergang7858
3 ай бұрын
@@japowey8958hakke smgs are beautiful
@MrJakeasaur98
3 ай бұрын
Basically the Seraph SMG no?
@Dreadnotus
3 ай бұрын
Yup. This guy blue
@xJokerzWild
3 ай бұрын
@@MrJakeasaur98 Indeed, it do be a solar seraph smg.
@Mercie1322
3 ай бұрын
Even if its a 7th Seraph, the ornaments look awesome
@blakestewart7533
3 ай бұрын
The way I see it, ritual weapons are just weapons that are just a good gun for new lights. If you dont have an incandescent smg, perfect pitch is there for you.
@legoshi6531
3 ай бұрын
But that kind of sucks because at some point they were really, really good. If anything if they are for f2p it should be able to compete with P2P
@user-rj4pq7lm1n
3 ай бұрын
@@legoshi6531f2p have access to three raids and prophecy. ritual weapons are incredibly easy to obtain and thus should not be exceptional
@Draykoh01
3 ай бұрын
Oo fancy pants Rich Mcgee over here...
@LadyJadeThe2nd
3 ай бұрын
@@legoshi6531 for console there is no free 2 play experience You need xbox gold/live and ps+ to even js join someone's party The game is p2p always
@hoozukigetsu
3 ай бұрын
Funnily enough I did not in fact have an incandescent smg so this was pretty convenient for me.
@COREcasual
3 ай бұрын
If it had heal clip instead of subsistance, I'd use it some
@nnoottjjuussttiinn
3 ай бұрын
even after the buff, subsistence is still bad on smgs
@CleopatraKing
3 ай бұрын
if it had any clip perk id consider it, but subsistence? its like they wanted it to fail. Shouldve just given it threat detector and kill clip
@Aegxs
3 ай бұрын
With how frequent precision frames need to reload? Yeah it would’ve been a good call to add heal clip
I like the fact that it’s good for New Lights, having a “good” primary with Incandescent is invaluable
@CleopatraKing
3 ай бұрын
too bad theres so many good ones and this one is p dog shit. FTP go get a incand BXR battler from dares OR lunas which has heal clip incand and subsistence incand, Raider ftp go get zhoulis(even if hc were nerfed in pve), nonraiders that got lightfall go get epochal integration, sexiest cannon ever made. ppl who got craftable adhortative from Wish, that has heal clip incand and is amazing, Trustee is a cool 260 scout that rolls with it from DSC.
@JustMeSavy
3 ай бұрын
@@CleopatraKingHCs were nerfed in PvE?
@fotis3v480
3 ай бұрын
All of the good incandescent guns are either heavily rng or behind raids. And the one that isn't is behind a campaign and a quest aka the epochal @@CleopatraKing
@blakeerenhouse943
3 ай бұрын
@@CleopatraKing both BXR and Lunas are random drops from activities, meaning not every player has those roles. They are not intended to be used by players who have every gun. They’re intended to be used by players who haven’t managed to get a better option yet. Bungie has stated so many times that the intended purpose is for these weapons to be a diet god roll. They’ll have an A+ perk and a B+ perk or a great combo, but a less than ideal frame or weapon type for it.
@hatchell18
3 ай бұрын
@@JustMeSavyno
@dankerbell
3 ай бұрын
it is absolutely a weapon, which i guess is the point of ritual weapons since salvager's salvo was an outlier, but python wasn't considered a pinnacle and i'd still love weapons like that again
@yol_n
3 ай бұрын
Yeah we'll never get a ritual weapon like salvager's again that one was crazy lol
@bl00dkillz
Ай бұрын
Adored was decent for PvE and great in pvp since it came out following d2 sunsetting
@mango2538
3 ай бұрын
It’s just budget Calus Mini for players who never got it. If you have that or Zaouli’s already pass it.
@PKehres84
3 ай бұрын
Hits a lot harder than Calus, though
@mango2538
3 ай бұрын
@@PKehres84 does less dps than calus tho, so its trash in comparison
@PKehres84
3 ай бұрын
@@mango2538 who tf is using SMGs for DPS?
@mango2538
3 ай бұрын
@@PKehres84 im talking about it like a stat. your 900 rpm smg is just gonna do more damage faster in pve against any target. wasnt referring to bosses
@imcarolean
3 ай бұрын
i miss unique weapon models
@legoshi6531
3 ай бұрын
I mean it's reused but idc this is one of the best weapon models they could've used.
@Nick-xd9bm
3 ай бұрын
As long as it’s used creatively I do not mind
@imcarolean
3 ай бұрын
@@Nick-xd9bm and this is a creative use of it? literally just slapped on an already existing shader
@ThePackman627
3 ай бұрын
@@imcaroleanI agree with you. Although bungee seems to like reskinning weapons for ritual playlists. Which I don't mind because they are free but bungee needs to do way better at making unique weapon models for trials weapons, because trials is technically paid for, meaning you need to have the latest expansion to even play trials
@XDieKillDieX
3 ай бұрын
The new Comp Auto has a new model doesn't it?
@KFK47
3 ай бұрын
If you pull it from collections it has a handling MW
@terribletimes902
3 ай бұрын
So basically don’t delete it
@jamiecarr8143
3 ай бұрын
TLDR: it sucks
@gabrieltorres6633
3 ай бұрын
No
@jimmcmeen761
3 ай бұрын
It’s pretty good in PVE. I would probably keep it there unless you wan to give yourself a handicap for PVP.
@LuciferMoringstar999
3 ай бұрын
Its alright nothing amazing but not a bad option to use.
@oNextq
3 ай бұрын
For PvP for pve feels pretty similar to the mini tool so pretty good
@DaReapa
3 ай бұрын
Shouldnt it be TLDW?
@AliceOfCrystal_
3 ай бұрын
A decent weapon that has one of my favorite gun models. The Seventh Seraph VY-7 SMG from S10 (season of the worthy) that hasn't been returned to us yet. Very cool SMG that had an ornament.. a shame we can't use the ornament on Perfect Pitch
@MythicalWatcher
3 ай бұрын
If it just had rewind rounds.. I really wish you get the one curated role, then you unlock it as a ritual drop after unlocking it in said activity with more potential perks.
@legoshi6531
3 ай бұрын
I just wish it had better PvP perks, even more when the shayuras wrath came back with JUICED and *enhanced* perks.
@dylanmiller1140
3 ай бұрын
Yah but that’s from trials and this is just from upgrading rituals which is really easy to do
@legoshi6531
3 ай бұрын
@@dylanmiller1140doesn't mean it should be useless though, we've had insanely good ritual weapons
@dylanmiller1140
3 ай бұрын
@@legoshi6531 it’s not useless. Incan Sub is gonna be a great option for a lot of new players. Especially with very limited access to Calus Mini at this point. Something not being good for YOU. Doesn’t make to useless
@fotis3v480
3 ай бұрын
We are spoiled. This is a decent starter. Ofc if you have every red border and multiple adepts it feels worthless.
@legoshi6531
3 ай бұрын
@@fotis3v480i dont have red borders or adepts, still a useless weapon. Its useless no matter what, plain and simple it could have been better.
@jackferdinger4180
2 ай бұрын
Perfect Pitch, as the name implies, is Perfect. Better options exist, but for newer players, this is the easiest option, and still very good
@JQDeathFromAbove96
3 ай бұрын
Mid in my opinion honestly. My if it has extended mag I’d probably like it but subsistence onslaught feels REALLY BAD with only 30 in a mag…
@denizenix4457
3 ай бұрын
Tbh, SMGs are my least favorite archetype anyway, so I'm good. Thanks for the solid breakdown though, keep doing what you're doing brother!
@alexcheek5625
3 ай бұрын
Talking about auto rifles being good with onslaught, breakneck is unsunset and feels really good
@Mattblaze1477
3 ай бұрын
Not every gun has to be Meta. Im a Destiny elitist and there are times I like to just run regular strikes so I can use fantastic looking, great feeling, and fun weapons just like this one here. One of my favorite non-meta builds is my Void Titan with Lion Rampant Exotic leg armor paired with the Exotic SMG 'Manticore', With this set up I spend more time in the air than I do on the ground. Now I'd never waltz into a raid or GM nightfall with this set-up but thats why I really like the easy stuff like vanilla lost sectors and the Vanguard ops playlist. One of the main reasons why I play the game is for the weapons and overall combat which feels incredible and is something Bungie has always excelled at.
@emberphoenix2922
3 ай бұрын
Once I i got mida mini crafted ive never looked at another solar smg. But if you cant get 5 red border midas these will do in a pinch
@ewhitey18
3 ай бұрын
It’s one of the guns of all time!
@aClockworkTomato
3 ай бұрын
I hate this thing. Used it to gild my Deadeye title and now I'll never look at it again. 😂
@Kyle-fy9kt
3 ай бұрын
It's alright. Enhanced Subsistence and Onslaught is a fun combo in at-light PvE.
@synth_pulse3098
3 ай бұрын
I have a calus crafted, bug out bag with Sub/incandescent, and I’m 100% going to run this for a while in PvE. Having the option of onslaught/incandescent in that second column adds some more variety to setups.
@WaveForceful
3 ай бұрын
Claus Minitool exists. Just use that. You can get Calus Minitool from the Presage mission when it comes available.
@IAmKingTony
2 ай бұрын
I used this guy as my ad clear weapon to clear Crota. Also for people looking for Bug-Out Bag, you can pull it from the Zur weapon engram.
@ceizure18
3 ай бұрын
I’ve always loved the seraph SMG style and now they have it for this which is awesome
@eliaspanayi3465
3 ай бұрын
Its the seraph smg and i think that's pretty cool, but unfortunately i just have better guns in the vault.
@JQDeathFromAbove96
3 ай бұрын
Ritual weapons suck. Go back to pinnacles
@japowey8958
3 ай бұрын
get rid of subsistence. that or give it an overhaul where it will start reloading the mag more and more based on how many kills you get. it should be a stackable perk with like 4 stacks. first kill gives one stack and reloads a little, then another kills adds another stack and reloads a little more, and so on up to 4 stacks where it will actually give you a useable amount of ammo back.
@Chrisonix_la_furra
3 ай бұрын
It's one of the few SMG's i like cuz it does clean I mean it cooks and has good dmg or addclear BUT IT FEELS SLOW
@kylesmith3837
3 ай бұрын
Get yo ass back in elden ring 💀
@chrispysonic21
3 ай бұрын
I'd rather use incandescent Summoner. Stronger and larger mag. This is fun in pvp sometimes. But summoner is king at close range as a solar energy spray and pray
@MrBison212
3 ай бұрын
Ironically enough, presage is the mission on the 2nd, this Tuesday. So you can farm for Calus red borders.
@Toothbrushs
3 ай бұрын
Can you also farm the machine gun?
@Toothbrushs
3 ай бұрын
Wait that was a dungeon weapon nvrmnd
@smokeygames0420
3 ай бұрын
Subsistence+Onslaught+Path of The Burning Steps. It goes crazy.
@Magnusthepapa
3 ай бұрын
It's literally Walmart great value huckleberry
@Flaco5609
3 ай бұрын
@@Magnusthepapaid expect that from a legendary
@smokeygames0420
3 ай бұрын
@@Magnusthepapa I enjoyed it, but only on Titan.
@ChefSuplex
3 ай бұрын
Yeeess give me any reason to use burning steps! They need to rework it.
@smokeygames0420
3 ай бұрын
@ChefSuplex Honestly should have got the Spirit on class item. Just have it match grenade energy since warrior exists
@tristanlambert658
4 күн бұрын
Am I crazy or? Why is everyone hyping up incandescent as the go to PvE choice? Yes, incandescent is great, always has been… but onslaught is an S+ tier perk ESPECIALLY when you pair it with a perk to reduce the need to reload, which in this case is subsistence. This thing is literally a legendary huckleberry but without the absurd recoil.
@greenlit802
3 ай бұрын
YAROVIT MG4 is good. I have Desperate Measures, Rewind Rounds on it and its pretty nasty. I was surprised the damage it does.
@vactus
3 ай бұрын
For friends of mine that don't have a calus, this was an easy pick up for them
@AvatarKnownAsNathanielPeters
3 ай бұрын
Got 21 kills with it. Vault.
@ban.solo9576
3 ай бұрын
TL;DR: Bungie STILL has a balancing problem lmao. The perks don't match for any activity,pvp or pve, the gun seems confused. But I'm sure they didn't want a solar shayuras wrath taking over EVERYTHING so I mean I get it.
@GyanPrakash
3 ай бұрын
Subsistence + Incandescent + Mantle of Battle Harmony = No Reload + Instant Supers, Destiny players are delusional calling this weapon "USELESS" 😂😂
@JeremyAyres-z2e
3 ай бұрын
Submachines are kind of garbage. They eat through ammo with a small magazine size, and do damage that's comparable to Autos per bullet, except their recoil is comparatively crap, and their range is comparatively crap. Like why would anyone want to use an SMG when you can just use one of the many way better Auto Rifle options that exist? SMGs right now, at least in PvE (which let's be real is really all that most people care about) are basically something that community has subconsciously conditioned themselves to use just so that they don't have to admit an entire class of available weaponry is so useless it may as well not exist. Maybe if it gets buffed later, but for now just vault your SMGs and use a Pulse Rifle for Barrier breaking, and if you just want good automatic weapon damage, use an Auto Rifle ffs. Better range, magazine size, and overall versatility. Literally no reason to use a SMG right now.
@TheGerardo136
3 ай бұрын
This thing just straight sucks. I mean cross showed it in the video. Against higher health red bar enemies like the cabal, this thing can’t kill for sh*t. Subsistence can barely be proc’d and the slow ass reload is painful. Wish bungie would make good weapons for free to play players. They make these free weapons crap to push people to buy whatever content is currently ongoing. Predatory like always 🤦🏻♂️
@tinystar3010
3 ай бұрын
Ritual weapons are just 7 enhancement cores now. They ruined ritual weapons long ago, overnerfing their potency when designing new ones. "70% of a god roll" is basically most of the drops you'll get naturally. So basically, rituals are just worth breaking down into their materials.
@guerrinlove69
3 ай бұрын
This thing fuckin BLOWS. I was really looking forward to it, but first normal strike i ran left me so disappointed. Though I feel SMGs are just not cookin' in this meta
@DEmoN-qp1fg
3 ай бұрын
Literally just use Calus Mini Tool or if for some weird reason u are really obsessed with 600s, use No Survivors from Ghosts; better stats and better perk combos. Literally don’t even recommend this for new lights when stuff like Heliocentric exists
@FYATroll
3 ай бұрын
It's a good weapon for new players definitely. You ahve a weapon that gives you incan or onslaught. That said, parabellum to me has the better rolls and it's a world drop. Heal Clip+Frenzy is just nasty good on an SMG.
@Miklprkr18
3 ай бұрын
I’ve given up on understanding “god rolls” Every time I pick up a gun that feels good, I end up finding out 90% of the community hates it. Screw yall I’m using it anyway
@SaigoNoGetsugaTenshou
3 ай бұрын
This one is weird, like Veles-X. The version you grab from vendors has a stability MW, but it's handling if you buy it back from collections.
@Alex-ug9wx
3 ай бұрын
Probably controversial, but I’ve stopped enjoying SMGs massively. Calus rarely comes on now because HCs and other types are so much safer and easier to use.
@twelved4983
3 ай бұрын
It’s good if you don’t got a good Solar smg. I don’t care for it because I’ve still got my godroll Calus Mini-Tool, which I haven’t had to find a replacement for at all, since it’s just so good at what it does. If someone wasn’t around for that reprised weapon, or can’t find a better Solar smg, then yeah, give Perfect Pitch a shot.
@stalkholm5227
3 ай бұрын
Men only want one thing, and it's flocking disgusting. (A legendary Tracerifle with Onslaught and Seraph Rounds.)
@Sinreven
3 ай бұрын
I liked using for a bit but the 600 rpm just kept me from liking it 100%, I'd rather be using my 900 rpm calus mini with enhanced unrelenting and incandescent. Like if I want to use a precision weapon that I have to fire in bursts I'd use a pulse or even an adaptive frame auto
@silver07bolt
3 ай бұрын
Imagine if ritual weapons had three different static roles, one for PvE, one for PVP and a hybrid role(Gambit). Even if the weapon had shit stats the perks could potentially save it
@POSSIBLYurFATHER
3 ай бұрын
PSA we all know bungie reworks perks ALL the time. Im calling it save all your rolls with TO THE PAIN perk. They will rework it
@aphaes1
3 ай бұрын
Ive enjoyed it. Feels good and looks good but a little underwhelming. Won’t lie I was little disappointed, granted I was hoping it would be on par with mini-tool. Fun in lower difficulty content but definitely not for a GM.
@ashleylongley1628
3 ай бұрын
I like how cross literally says in the video that rituals are meant to be an almost god roll and it’s a pretty ok weapon if you do t have anything better but people are still saying subsistence should be changed for a god roll perk. Like…WHAT?
@gamerprodigy107
3 ай бұрын
Ill be honest with having enhanced lead from gold on the call and the ergo sum with blade stamina, i find my not rocking a primary at all in pve. You don't need it. So this is an ok gun but tons of weapons crap all over it. Tldr get it if you need a semi good rolled smg then get a better one afterwards. Or if you have better guns 7 easy enchancement cores YAY!
@trev1373
Ай бұрын
I keep it in my inven because sometimes I like using it for easier pve content and it’s especially useful with subsistence and Incan but the dmg isn’t there for anything higher difficulty
@sirloin7633
3 ай бұрын
This guy loves stretching out all his videos now. Cross really needs to explain how rampage or kill clip works to us in every single video. What a waste of time. I'm done with these guys.
@Sn1perQa
3 ай бұрын
Please don’t use this over Mini Tool / Zouli’s Bane / Ikelos / Subjenctive / Funnel Web / Recluse /
@pelarinbacosiii448
2 ай бұрын
2:07 Someone at Bungie must be a Princess Bride fan: kzitem.info/news/bejne/2IuAyZeBbZ6Hamk Me too! "Anybody want a peanut?"
@Mercie1322
3 ай бұрын
If To The Pain proc both equipped and while holstered and lasted like 10 seconds and refreshed on taking damage, it would be a better perk overall
@MNDO
3 ай бұрын
I don’t play pvp often so I don’t have many god rolls for it, this weapon literally changes everything though. I went from unranked to gold 3 In one session
@TheFinalVigil
3 ай бұрын
It feels like it fires to slow! I sharded it after about 25 kills i think im just use to everything being 900rpm 😐.
@Yeshwaya
3 ай бұрын
I mean if you dont have a incandescent smg its either this one or parabellum which is a world drop and im not sure if its farmable in lost sectors.....edit: nevermind parabellum can't roll incandescent
@abrahamlincoln4186
3 ай бұрын
CO just blew my deepsight harmonizer lode all over callu mini tool last season after buying some from zur and it was heavinly
@Ace-Intervention
3 ай бұрын
Seven seraph lmao
@b0ld651
3 ай бұрын
I think ritual weapons are supposed to be awful because you get it for free basically. I don’t think they are meant to be viable.
@grimmSOL
3 ай бұрын
I already had a Subsistence/Incandescent Bug Out Bag from nearly a year ago, so this disappoints.
@jfern0927
3 ай бұрын
Kinda does suck. Do wish better or more rolls could be added. That also smg's are just in a bad/meh state. Just so much better options sadly.
@kristhomas8518
3 ай бұрын
i seen a Aegis Perk on a weapon from one of your last recent vids . Coms open . Loud n clear . Community stop sleeping like stimulant here. Metas started out as "God Rollls" . we got some good fish , tis time eat
@crazytalk8120
3 ай бұрын
I like this weapon.
@blakewhitlow
3 ай бұрын
just want to know should i be using this over a crafted Mini Tool with enhanced perks? got both weapons but didn't know u can enhance the Pitch Perfect perks
@seffers4788
2 ай бұрын
These are so ass they aren’t even worth picking up anymore. The “ornaments” are just a slap in the face too. Do better Bungie
@zelo3238
3 ай бұрын
I don't really like that they reused the seventh seraph smg model. It makes the original feel less unique. It's not really a big deal, but it still kind of bothers me.
@delilahalpaca4793
3 ай бұрын
Love it in PVE on a solar build. Hate in PVP. Like I’m trying to shoot bubbles out of a brick.
@elidieslit
3 ай бұрын
this is very good for ftp players, but if you already have calus mini-tool then i suggest not even touching the ritual weapon.
@austinwarden9148
3 ай бұрын
So is Unending Tempest probably the best pvp smg for new players to grind with? And if so what is the best roll to look for with it?
@thisone98
3 ай бұрын
Point blank honesty : It's trash. you won't use it in pvp, you're better off using shayura, any 600rpn smg. 1:18 "a f2p weapon" "a ritual weapon" does that justify it being absolutely mid ? Nah. Yaay another incandescent smg. We got calus. We got that one 900 smg from season of whatever. Perks are awful. Pve ? Subsistence ? Really ? No need to watch videos about it to understand it is trash. Now of course there will be people jumping on the tracks to say "Well i'm using it and i killed a thrall really fast !" No one cares. No one cares that you use a suboptimal, way below average weapon.
@WINDofSHIVA
3 ай бұрын
i watched you test this weapon live and you swapped weapons way too often to fell the power of 10x To The Pain. It shines when that is ramped up.
@Itchybumhole
3 ай бұрын
I don't think it does suck it's just not recommended for your play style so far I love this gun and that's just my opinion
@Kazriel911
3 ай бұрын
Enhanced Subsistence should be adjusted to overflow by up to 50%
@Youkai_graphics
3 ай бұрын
It suck….i was grinding out because it got incandescent and subsistence, so I can chain blow up enemies + reload on kill. But it’s ass
@LilHaze117
2 ай бұрын
I see how they tried to bring in a solar smg for those without the Mini-tool and then give it Breakneck perks to be cool but smg range makes it meh
@sykrotima9528
3 ай бұрын
Is it still bugged, if you pull it from collections the masterwork is handling instead.
@wwr90
3 ай бұрын
Real question, does enhanced incandescent 30 versus 45 stacks really make a difference?
@GyanPrakash
3 ай бұрын
This is the best SMG in the game, destroying Barrier Champ Shields in Seconds in GM 😊
@Joexmyers
3 ай бұрын
This has become one of my favorite weapons in PvE content.
@jenarickman9215
3 ай бұрын
I just wish smgs didnt feel so awful to use at the moment. Ever since the buff to hand cannons, smgs just havent felt good to use
@theguywhoasked2520
2 ай бұрын
for too the pain, each stack is +2 onto the stats it mentions. Which means at max stacks it'll give you +20 to every stat it mentions
@mefcalols4446
3 ай бұрын
These videos are always so funny because like... Name one ritual weapon you still use from a previous season
@prestoloe
3 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for a review on this smg, gives me Multi-Mach vibes.
@MajorityFFA
3 ай бұрын
Mine has a handling masterwork. Just pull from collections
@StayPuft80
3 ай бұрын
Subsistence feels dogshit on this. Looks good on paper, but it doesn't work.
@ltccherno2536
2 ай бұрын
It would be super fun if it didn’t have negative handling and feel like it weighs 50 pounds.
@cassettecoverage6944
3 ай бұрын
Mini tool is definitely better but this feels better to me. Completely a personal take but I like perfect pitch compared to mini tool
@MrTardy-bk3lm
3 ай бұрын
Imagine if they switched the columns subsistence and onslaught are in!!!!
@smittydog16
3 ай бұрын
Idc I would rather just use a non powered melee over using a fucking precision frame in pve
@OnyxfearX_X
3 ай бұрын
I definitely believe its great for new returning player's, i use it myself. Not bad
@MohJendli
3 ай бұрын
Btw gambit origin trait marks invaders for your whole team, it doesn't say that.
@dreechte
3 ай бұрын
Looks good, feels good, has solid rolls in my opinion its my top incandescent smg i like it more than calus tbh
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