I love how when you encounter Zangoose and Seviper in a horde battle, they will attack each other first before moving onto the player's Pokemon. The same thing happens with Heatmor and Durant, and it's a very nice attention to detail there.
@Lrizu
2 жыл бұрын
Didn't ask, don't care
@anonymousmonkey9491
2 жыл бұрын
unless you want to catch one, then dear god it's annoying.
@plewisjr90
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lrizu But you cared enough to leave a comment, letting everyone know that you DONT care right?
@Lrizu
2 жыл бұрын
As of commenting this, you still haven't finished watching this video
@abyssalnothingness
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lrizu who asked?
@av4010
2 жыл бұрын
i always liked Zangoose. When I played Ruby back then I came across it randomly and it had higher attack then basically all my pokemon. Turned out it was partially because of the Naughty nature it had. (I didn't know what natures did back then)
@luiseduardo8806
2 жыл бұрын
It is a surprisingly good pokémon in it's own right for a playthrough. It has good attack and servicable speed, swords dance, perfect neutral coverage in shadow ball and Brick break and it looks cool. I hate the people who call it furrybait, it looks cool for an angry animal.
@azmiraclegirl441
2 жыл бұрын
Was it Naughty by Nature?
@saab35draken39
2 жыл бұрын
@@azmiraclegirl441 🥵🥵
@walesjedi9217
2 жыл бұрын
@@luiseduardo8806 I don't think I've seen too many calling it furry bait, especially when Hoenn already has the most obvious example of that to focus on
@bakurasensei
2 жыл бұрын
@@walesjedi9217 youre right, Slaking is the biggest furrybait ive ever seen
@aaronolson6736
2 жыл бұрын
Weirdest thing about Toxic Boost is that it grants 50% boost just like Guts while only procing from 1 status. With how specialized it is, you'd think it at least gets to be a 75% increase.
@matinhannak3649
2 жыл бұрын
especially since it wouldnt exactly be overpowered considering what the only mon packing that abillity is.
@damp8277
2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe also having Toxic become "Normal" Poison. So Toxic Orb would become a Flame Orb short of thing, without the Atk drop.
@getthegoons
2 жыл бұрын
I mean there's two abilities that double attack, two that make you impossible to sleep, and rotom fan has levitate. Redundancy isn't new
@yerman0564
2 жыл бұрын
@@getthegoons this isn’t quite redundancy so much as straight up inferiority. Burn does a set 6% each turn, while toxic damage increases over time. It also means Zangoose can’t run sleep talk as an emergency counter to spore as efficiently as Guts.
@getthegoons
2 жыл бұрын
@@yerman0564 I guess my point was GF is happy to make things that are just the same with a different name.
@skyfoil
2 жыл бұрын
I remember all the buzz about Toxic Boost when people were first learning about it and the theoretical power Zangoose could dish out with Facade. There were some nay-sayers because of its lack of bulk but damn did Zangoose put those thoughts to rest when it was unleashed.
@Skullhawk13
2 жыл бұрын
In fairness to the nay-sayers, Toxic Boost is a strictly worse Guts. It just turns out a strictly worse guts is pretty good still.
@winterFox2r
2 жыл бұрын
Would’ve been so much better if Toxic Boost also stopped Poison Damage.
@aSh-pi1in
2 жыл бұрын
@@winterFox2r there's a fan game called Pokémon Rejuvenation, they have items called Crests, They're made to buff weaker Pokémon (for example: Dusknoir Crest boosts Its Attack by 20% and gives it Technician on top of its regular Ability) and they can't be knocked off Zangoose has a Crest, and its effects are simple, they're: 1:Poisons Zangoose to activate Toxic Boost 2:Also give him the effects of poison Heal on top of Toxic boost.
@brain_tonic
2 жыл бұрын
@@aSh-pi1in downloading now. This sounds like an interesting game.
@ubermaster1
2 жыл бұрын
@@Skullhawk13 a rusty/dulled knife is still a knife I always say
@Glory2Snowstar
2 жыл бұрын
Wait, hollup, Zangoose had purple claws and LOST them? That’s the biggest dang nerf ever! They fit so well with Seviper murder!
@skullerclawerbandicoot7966
2 жыл бұрын
*Rated E for everyone*
@jamesrobson8308
2 жыл бұрын
I think so yeah, I think that was just in gen3
@artandem9637
2 жыл бұрын
Would be cool if seviper's fangs were blood red, to make their connection more obvious.
@jamesrobson8308
2 жыл бұрын
@@artandem9637 they are
@etshArk87
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree, first thing I noticed when the video started was the Purple claws, what a damn nerf indeed
@sliced8669
2 жыл бұрын
Hearing Kellen’s utter shock when talking about how Zangoose OHKO’s mesperit actually surprised me
@soumyajeetbag2553
2 жыл бұрын
@today was a good day go away
@jonathansoriano3568
2 жыл бұрын
SAAAAAAAME. I don't know why it stuck out to me.
@Red-MagicOrchestra
2 жыл бұрын
He's really great at emphasizing with his delivery
@Wenvolt
Жыл бұрын
not me the best I've ever seen a Zangoose OHKO is Primal Kyogre! done by my zangoose using silk scarf and retaliate after Primal Kyogre knocked out my previous pokemon!! It was greatest thing ever!!
@M3rtyville
2 жыл бұрын
Next must be Arbok's evolution Seviper. Don't tell me its wrong, 4Kids never lies
@yaboidragonitehere1137
2 жыл бұрын
Well Seviper is honestly. It was pretty bad. It's movepool and attacking prowess are wasted by it's speed and it's mono poison typing
@Ashelybee
2 жыл бұрын
@@yaboidragonitehere1137 like it learns flamethrower earthquake giga drain seviper its just the new avatar
@festafunerea
2 жыл бұрын
I unironically believed in this as a kid, because I didn't remembered Jessie releasing her Arbok and didn't watched the first season of the Hoenn anime
@notgreatgale
2 жыл бұрын
god i remember being so confused when i saw that as a kid :')
@Wizard_Lizard_
2 жыл бұрын
Zangoose is a Pokémon that I've always thought should have had base 100+ speed. When I found out it was only 90 I was honestly astonished.
@wheeler1003
2 жыл бұрын
At least it's viable unlike a certain snake...
@UnethicalVoxel
2 жыл бұрын
Same with Sawk, I always thought it was super fast
@aaryayt7747
2 жыл бұрын
Same with nidoking
@rabeechowdhury
2 жыл бұрын
@@UnethicalVoxel Sawk just needs an ability like contrary or better special bulk, speed, and more opportunities to utilize mold breaker.
@smackedpickle
2 жыл бұрын
Zangoose is a bit of a chonker :3
@sarasaland4709
2 жыл бұрын
Given how scaley Seviper was in the Scarlet and Violet reveal. Hopefully the angry boy with be super fluffy.
@donovanlocust1106
2 жыл бұрын
YES!!
@ksoundkaiju9256
2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully both will evolve
@donovanlocust1106
2 жыл бұрын
@@ksoundkaiju9256 oh that'd be kind of sick
@darrellsimon4462
2 жыл бұрын
I was kinda a lil bummed seeing that it wasnt a regional form , but we can hope for an evo
@ksoundkaiju9256
2 жыл бұрын
@@donovanlocust1106 Lord knows Seviper needs an evolution *BAD*
@NanaKyoto
2 жыл бұрын
A Mega Seviper and Zangoose is a legitimately interesting prospect, and although we might not ever see that happen, there is a chance the two could receive regional variants.
@cjstewart5186
2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see it to where Zangoose gains the poison type, don't know what seviper would get. But Zangoose gaining its enemies type would be cool.
@handerborte97
2 жыл бұрын
Mega Zangoose Ability: Toxic overhaul. Raises attack 75% and speed by one stage when toxic. Stats: Attack: 160. Defense 75. Sp. Atk 60. Sp. Def 75. Speed 115
@solruptoryt
2 жыл бұрын
I'd honestly love for them to receive new regional evos in Scarlet & Violet. Heck, Ursaring got a new evo in P:LA and Ursasing didn't exactly have awful stats per say. And Ursaluna is awesome! Imagine how great an evolution for Zangoose & Seviper would be.
@TheBlueArmageddon
2 жыл бұрын
@@handerborte97 lmao, this is the epidemy of a fan suggestion
@o0_VanYsH_0o
2 жыл бұрын
In an official Japanese pokemon Magazine, Seviper and Zangoose were featured in black shadows, as pokemon to get Megas in OR/AS. They were the only Mega evolutions scrapped for the game. With Pokemon Scarlet and Violet coming out, I have a feeling this rivalry will have a much bigger role. Why else show a Seviper in the trailer? There's something big going on.
@CosmicFlareYT
2 жыл бұрын
Seviper: "Stay away from me! I'm one of the deadliest snakes on the planet!" Zangoose: "I'll have fries with that..."
@WildWeavile
2 жыл бұрын
More like "ssstay" and "sssnakeeesss"
@Skeloperch
2 жыл бұрын
Seviper is a shitmon that makes Arbok look good. It's a shame, really. It's as frail as Zangoose, but Zangoose has more attack and more speed. Dunno what Game Freak were thinking making a glacially slow mixed attacker with the defenses of wet tissue paper.
@jaretco6423
2 жыл бұрын
Maxa. " Unfortunately ".
@arenard89aw
2 жыл бұрын
@@Skeloperch with the additional "nail in the coffin" of requiring WAY more experience to raise.
@jasonreed7522
2 жыл бұрын
@@arenard89aw its tragic because its otherwise a fun mon, and certainly was interesting in the anime. Personally i would fix this by giving seviper a secondary steel typing to make it much better defensively.
@DuUude714
2 жыл бұрын
Finally. I remember using Zangoose through my entire playthrough of Ruby back in the day.
@ohhellwhereami2574
2 жыл бұрын
@don't be surprised?
@rareboy3908
2 жыл бұрын
I think Toxic Boost should ALSO raise Zangoose’s speed by 1. It’s an exclusive ability that works more or less like Guts so they should have added the speed boost to make it more unique, and Zangoose would have ABSOLUTELY enjoyed the plus one to its speed.
@Skeloperch
2 жыл бұрын
What about boosting its special attack by 1.5x as well? It could run Shadow Ball effectively like in the good ol' days, and it'd make Zangoose a truly terrifying mixed wall breaker.
@sujalchavan4822
2 жыл бұрын
@@Skeloperch why shadow ball?knock gets the job done
@cassiolins1203
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, zangoose is weak enough to get a broken ability and still be bad anyway
@SongbirdOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
That would be a good buff, especially considering that Guts has gotten buffed because of the gen 7 burn nerf.
@brodaciousbro1149
2 жыл бұрын
@@Skeloperch it’s not a special attacker tho
@NoteofLuck
2 жыл бұрын
Look at the cool new move that arrived with Zangoose, Crush Claw. It looks fierce!... What do you mean it only has 75 base power? Toxic Boost + Facade is a great combination. The only thing setting Zangoose back right now is longevity. It'd be great if Toxic Boost prevented damage from Poison status entirely.
@infinitecriativity1588
2 жыл бұрын
i agree since toxic boost is just poison exclusive guts
@HazeEmry
2 жыл бұрын
I'd argue to have the buff double it's attack instead of just 1.5 as well
@gallantblade1825
2 жыл бұрын
Get ready for “How BAD was Seviper actually”, because I get the feeling Seviper hasn’t had the same luck as Zangoose had, which sucks. Seviper is returning in Scarlet and Violet (alongside Zangoose we can assume), so I’m hoping only the best for it.
@Drakorre
2 жыл бұрын
Seviper Is sadly a slow and frail mixed attacker, still a blast to use in my Emerald runs
@Red-MagicOrchestra
2 жыл бұрын
Seviper should've been more bulkier to contrast Zangoose's frailty
@zemotika
2 жыл бұрын
I tried making a punishment and infiltrator set to counter substitute setup but seviper is just so frail :(
@silvernick65
2 жыл бұрын
Eh I wouldn't go that far. Seviper had some pretty cool move polls and stats. It's speed and defense were quite questionable though, but it's still a pretty solid mon honestly.
@carnage0685
2 жыл бұрын
@@silvernick65 It might have been good in like, Gen 3 NU, but I don't think it would be good anywhere else.
@HMZeroTwo
2 жыл бұрын
Zangoose is my favourite Gen 3 Pokémon, starters and Legendaries being excluded of course. I miss its purple claws it had in its Gen 3 sprite. It kinda makes sense for it to have them, since it and Seviper are mortal enemies, and it's not hard to see the purple being Seviper's blood.
@jaschabull2365
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wish that had been kept. Along with shuppet's brightly-coloured eyes.
@ScorchyScorch
2 жыл бұрын
The most fondest memory of Zangoose I have (tho you can say is cruel) is watching my brother EV training with a Zangoose/Seviper Hordes. And during one of his encounters he found one sole Shiny Seviper surrounded by 4 Zangoose. My brother and I watched in horror as the 4 Zangoose Crush Clawed that Shiny Seviper. We couldn't do anything to save it o7
@fortidogi8620
2 жыл бұрын
o7
@HazeEmry
2 жыл бұрын
o7
@zuniroa
2 жыл бұрын
o7
@user-qy3vl2rb6n
Жыл бұрын
o7
@StormlordOG
9 ай бұрын
o7
@c-lion6494
2 жыл бұрын
I always find it so funny that Zangoose and Seviper are canonical rivals in the Pokémon universe but are in the same egg group
@ElectricSh33ps
2 жыл бұрын
Enemies to Lovers
@luiseduardo8806
2 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricSh33ps no. Enemies to Enemies, no one cares for breeding aside competitive -psychopaths- players
@jasonreed7522
2 жыл бұрын
@@luiseduardo8806 occasionally i do it just to get a move onto a cetrain mon but certainly not to try and get good IVs since that is litteral insanity. (Or to get duplicates of starters or similar to trade)
@brianallison1549
2 жыл бұрын
Finally they got to Jan's favorite pokemon
@Oscarus4250
2 жыл бұрын
Which one? From Pokemon Challenges, or head dev of Rejuvenation?
@skeetermania3202
2 жыл бұрын
@@Oscarus4250 PChal.
@flaregamer64
2 жыл бұрын
Zangoose with Toxic Orb: Call an ambulance! Also Zangoose with Toxic Orb: *For both of us!*
@luirromenjivar1390
2 жыл бұрын
I did never pay attention to the fact that Zangoose's claws changed color from purple to gray
@adamthespinygiant
2 жыл бұрын
Here’s some recommendations: 1. How Good was Chesnaught actually 2. How Bad was Bastiodon actually
@roninwarriorsfan
2 жыл бұрын
Gen6+ is banned :V
@IgnitedQuils
2 жыл бұрын
@@roninwarriorsfan I wouldn’t say so considering Decidueye, Aurorus and Greninja have been analyzed.
@sharpeylogic2907
2 жыл бұрын
@@roninwarriorsfan They did Greninja though
@GoldRichness
2 жыл бұрын
@@sharpeylogic2907 that was before the Gen6+ clause was implemented,
@facade6927
2 жыл бұрын
it's no use, FSG doesn't do videos upon the viewers requests in comments anymore. They either let the patreon pick the pokemon or they pick a mon themselves. The reason for this is probably not obvious but he wants the viewers to comment on the pokemon that has bee reviewed in the video like what buffs it'd need to become viable etc but the majority of the comments have been requests for the upcoming videos. Notice how he doesn't show the request comments in his videos anymore
@IgnitedQuils
2 жыл бұрын
One of the more better pure Normal types. Also, hoping it gets more buffs in Scarlet and Violet since Seviper is in the game. Like FSG said, it’s been good for an offensive Pokemon, having coverage for Facade and Toxic Boost. The only problem besides its frailty is that while its speed isn’t low, it’s not high enough to outspeed Pokemon like Garchomp.
@dolovo_gaming3081
2 жыл бұрын
Extreme speed would fix the speed issue while also having the boost of stab and toxic boost
@normalpersonlivingtheirlife
2 жыл бұрын
I swear if serviper and zang are version exclusives and I pick the wrong one there will be consequences
@darrellsimon4462
2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for regional forms for these two, but we can hope for buffs like can evo
@IgnitedQuils
2 жыл бұрын
@@darrellsimon4462 Regular Seviper is in the game so I doubt that. Hoping for stat buffs though
@notvex3987
2 жыл бұрын
@@normalpersonlivingtheirlife just check google for version exclusives
@primrosevale1995
2 жыл бұрын
I just realized that Zangoose's Gen 3 sprite has purple claws, and that reminded me the poison patterns on the claws of the Hisuian Sneasel line. Imagine if it was part Fighting type like them with an improved Toxic Boost?
@skellydanecromancer1343
2 жыл бұрын
It's supposed to be seviper blood
@user-pp6pr5fg8w
2 жыл бұрын
Not having Pokemon Challenges on this episode was a missed opportunity
@fabioalanmp
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is his favorite Pokémon and this collab would be neat. Maybe if it was a Nuzlocke channel it would work
@ssswag
2 жыл бұрын
please no
@skeetermania3202
2 жыл бұрын
@@fabioalanmp Jan would probably say nothing other than how based AF Zangoose is (maybe as a conclusion or lead-in).
@ericgarcia6724
2 жыл бұрын
Never though Zangoose could be so strong. Only ever seeing the Pokémon and never using it might be the reason why. Could you probably analyze Drapion or Scrafty in a future video?
@mingiboy9253
2 жыл бұрын
I think he already did both
@skeetermania3202
2 жыл бұрын
@@mingiboy9253 Nope, neither have been covered yet.
@SofterSideStudios
2 жыл бұрын
Ninjask, Delcatty, Swalot, Torkoal, Grumpig, Spinda, Seviper, Lunatone, Solrock, Kecleon, Tropius, Relicanth, and Latios 13 hoenn mons left
@TixSloth
2 жыл бұрын
cool, starting to wear out the list
@IgnitedQuils
2 жыл бұрын
The Delcatty video will be interesting…ly short.
@kovkover6191
2 жыл бұрын
Does Ninjask have a video?
@IgnitedQuils
2 жыл бұрын
@@kovkover6191 No
@kovkover6191
2 жыл бұрын
Add Ninjask in the list
@beebobber546
2 жыл бұрын
One of the many mediocre Hoenn Pokémon that would of killed for a mega in ORAS
@RyanYeehaw
2 жыл бұрын
would have*
@beebobber546
2 жыл бұрын
@@RyanYeehaw damnit, thanks for the catch
@rabeechowdhury
2 жыл бұрын
@@beebobber546 bro, mawile and sableye are both worse than zangoose without a mega, by no means is Zangoose a bad pokemon, however it is set on a timer. If Zangoose had a mega, it would be Uber if Mega Mawile was OU or make its ability give an immunity to poison damage (effect).
@whomgod420
2 жыл бұрын
How GOOD is a Normal Type with Facade and a Status Ability ACTUALLY?
@BeeEmpress
2 жыл бұрын
What?
@luiseduardo8806
2 жыл бұрын
Look at Kellen's voice when he says "KILLING OFFENSIVE MESPRIT FROM FULL WITH FACADE!?" he almost has a voice crack because of zangoose's toxic boosted facades
@skeetermania3202
2 жыл бұрын
What is it with Zangoose and voice cracks? Chuggaaconroy also had a bad habit of this.
@DOYOUNOTHEWAY
2 жыл бұрын
Damn i have been waiting for this pokemon for soo long thank god its actually good
@Leet-iz2fz
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact after watching the intro: "wherefore" basically just means "why". In its original context, "Romeo, wherefore art thou?" is basically Juliet saying "Romeo, why are you Romeo?" Hence the following statement of "a rose by any other name would smell as sweet." Juliet is lamenting that the only thing stopping her from loving Romeo is his identity (a Montague). So when you say in the intro, "Wherefore art thou, Zangoose," it's basically an insult to some aspect of its design. I took all this time writing an explanation just to conclude that this is funny.
@itshanol
2 жыл бұрын
Big thanks to Seviper giving Zangoose the ability to benefit from poison, giving it a niche in competitive
@NobodyDungeons
2 жыл бұрын
I would love to give Zangoose, and its counterpart Seviper evolutions. This is what I would change for their evolutions. Zangoose Evolution: Typing - Normal/Fighting Abilities - poison heal, guts(H) HP - 103 ATK - 135 DEF - 75 SPA - 65 SPD - 65 SPE - 100 TOT - 543 Seviper Evolution: Typing - Poison/Dark Abilities - Sheer force, Strong Jaw(H) HP - 88 ATK - 105 DEF - 65 SPA - 110 SPD - 75 SPE - 100 TOT - 543
@jasonreed7522
2 жыл бұрын
I would swap the dark for steel, its litterally a sword snake and its a theoretical awesome typing defensively. (Theoretically because no pokemon has that typing yet, and i think seviper deserves to be the first) Just ensure the zangoose evolution gets some good moves to still hit the now super defensive seviper evolution. (Neutrally hit i mean, i like the ballanced dynamic they have so far even if zangoose is way better in the general case)
@RFE812
2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that Zangoose’s rival didn’t fare as well competitively.
@hfactor66
2 жыл бұрын
I’m rather fond of Zangoose, so it’s satisfying to see how it ripped up the lower tiers with Toxic Boost over the years. I remember getting a Pure Power Zangoose in an Emerald randomizer nuzlocke once, and you can just imagine my excitement at the prospect of Zangoose doubling its monstrous 115 base attack once I looked at its ability after catching it. The thing was an absolute bulldozer, anything that was put before him just got blasted apart. Also had one on my main team in Mystery Dungeon EoS, dude was an absolute beast that Crush Claw’d everything into submission.
@supermudkipz
2 жыл бұрын
My suggestion: Have Toxic Boost block Poison Damage as well, or have Toxic Boost give a 25% boost to speed on top of the power boost. It makes no sense why Toxic Boost exists when Guts exists too.
@adamj.cuthbert7528
2 жыл бұрын
I find it funny that for being arch-enemies, Zangoose and Seviper can breed with each other. I wonder how that relationship works out...
@jamesrobson8308
2 жыл бұрын
Toxic
@supernova9014
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrons, I was looking forward to this one. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for the implications behind comparing Zangoose and Seviper to Romeo and Juliet.
@mr.truffles9294
2 жыл бұрын
Among the gen 3 pokemon, I'm excited for Torkoal.
@nerdstop5025
2 жыл бұрын
@don't be surprised no it isnt, torkoal isnt here yet
@luiseduardo8806
2 жыл бұрын
@@nerdstop5025 bot alert
@rabeechowdhury
2 жыл бұрын
Torkoal is just going to be all VGC lol.
@infinitecriativity1588
2 жыл бұрын
me too, but it is strange that something expelling a lot of smoke has drought
@lapoosielover5877
2 жыл бұрын
@don't be surprised girl you mad goofy
@nixuniverse5240
2 жыл бұрын
I had an idea for a Mega Evolution where he'd get bigger, have 4 claws on each hand, and have 3 black bands on his arm which while not explicitly stated are implied to be dead Sevipers.
@skeletonjanitor
2 жыл бұрын
@don't be surprised no
@komododragon7619
2 жыл бұрын
@don't be surprised no
@goodfood3957
2 жыл бұрын
@don't be surprised no
@rabeechowdhury
2 жыл бұрын
just make that a regular evolution
@jamesrobson8308
2 жыл бұрын
@@rabeechowdhury nah, it fits better as a mega
@skeetermania3202
2 жыл бұрын
Why can this not learn Cut? Also, poor Chimchar’s gotta be petrified seeing this.
@Birdtendo
2 жыл бұрын
So Seviper for next week?
@jaschabull2365
2 жыл бұрын
I guess the best thing about gen 7 for zangoose is that it could finally say it wasn't the weakest mongoose pokémon. I suspect a seviper episode should follow pretty soon. And from what I gather, it may continue the Shakespearean theme by being an utter tragedy.
@kuitaranheatmorus9932
2 жыл бұрын
In summary: Zangoose use to be badass,but is not pretty decent but was never bad jsut outclassed,and is still is a very badass Gen 3 mon.
@Juli_is_Online
2 жыл бұрын
I think I know a certain Best Nuzlocker in the world who might be quite excited about seeing this particular vid
@annaangelic2318
2 жыл бұрын
I'm really happy you mentioned ADV 200! It's a super interesting metagame that I wish would get more recognition as competitive history, as well as the DP, Platinum, BW1, XY, and especially pre-DLC SS metagames!
@iantaakalla8180
2 жыл бұрын
The pre-DLC SS metagame is the most interesting because it’s the one that allowed previously bad Pokémon to shine, like Galarian Corsola, Avalugg, and Reshiram.
@Ipavaiva
2 жыл бұрын
Scarfed Double-edge Zangoose is also fun, people don't see the extra speed coming before it's too late
@infinitecriativity1588
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to its speed Zangoose is able to barely avoid the Rampardors curse but being know as something fast and speed tie with Kangaskhan is a disappointment. Zangoose should have 98 base speed.
@HyperGamer0130
2 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for How GREAT was Ferrothorn ACTUALLY: The Movie
@MoCa1979Jr
2 жыл бұрын
Toxic Boost needs a buff, to make up for what it lacks in comparison to Guts. I think TB should increase Zangoose's Defense & SP Def and/or Speed by 20% each (while poisoned), as well. And maybe also give TB a passive secondary effect, which causes poison-type moves to do half damage (including attacks & the "poison" status itself)--so Zangoose can last longer in battles, with this ability.
@mauroperez2848
2 жыл бұрын
Zangoose was one of the coolest gen 3 to exist. It is my favorite Hoenn normal type. I didn't know that there are a ruby/sapphire 2000 metagame, though it makes sense for one to exist before Emerald, the kanto remakes, and the Coliseum games. I am glad that it got to truly shine in gen 5 with its exclusive hidden ability. The only other pokemon to have a similar ability is Drifblim's flare boost. Zangoose's power when toxic boost is active is quite absurd based on the video. I am curious as to how Zangoose would have performed in gen 8. I know the national dex format is a thing.
@luiseduardo8806
2 жыл бұрын
With the smaller pokedéx I am sure that it could have been a threat and a half in PU at it's very worst, RU at best, maybe even an UU niche
@ionnathm2026
2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite things back in ORAS was take my Choice Scarf Retaliate Shiny Zangoose (Caught it in a Horde in X) and watch as it destroyed Pokemon, Legendary or otherwise.
@Blackheartgamer1
2 жыл бұрын
If gamefreak were to give toxic boost a speed buff as well, i think Zangoose would be golden.
@yaboiRayT
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I thought Zangoose was way worse than it actually was. So to see it do kinda well is cool.
@OMalleyTheMaggot
2 жыл бұрын
If it hits super hard you can always make it work. The rampardos-class pokemon of being outclassed but being able to smash anyway
@IgnitedQuils
2 жыл бұрын
@@OMalleyTheMaggot At least it has speed unlike Rampardos
@rabeechowdhury
2 жыл бұрын
@@IgnitedQuils but they all do damage in the end.
@beanburrito4405
2 жыл бұрын
Next week: How good was Seviper ACTUALLY?
@allhailme8457
2 жыл бұрын
I have a Gen 3 Zangoose with Thunderwave. He has traveled with me up in every Gen. Hes very good in game to help me catch other Pokemon.
@PurpsJL_HAQ
2 жыл бұрын
Zangoose became my favorite Pokemon after Pokemon XD! Love it ever since! Claw Kid, you're still my girl!!!!!
@meta1429
2 жыл бұрын
How good was Facade actually?
@blazikenchad8876
2 жыл бұрын
Serviper is will be mad If he sees this video Btw serviper next please (its acctually a must now)
@sliced8669
2 жыл бұрын
I half expected Pokémon Challenges to make an appearance in this video
@sujalchavan4822
2 жыл бұрын
Like the Garbodors right
@Xiuhcoatl_
2 жыл бұрын
Omfg YESSSS!!!! One of my favorite pokemon of ALL TIME. I wish it got more love its such a great pokemon design
@sant41
2 жыл бұрын
Nice pick by the patreons
@toastadasd8578
2 жыл бұрын
Zangoose design is so simple but it manages to look cool as hell, also is it just me or it's been a long time since a vgc analysis appeared here?
@vuldix7033
2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on normal type pokemob similar to the ice type video with blunder? I just think its super interesting how normal types used to dominate the meta due to their lack of weaknesses and coverage but somewhere along the way the type became a detriment and offensively useless
@abdulbaten9537
2 жыл бұрын
MY FAVORITE NORMAL TYPE LESGOO. I'm amazed to see it was viable at all, thanks fsg love how kellan played up zangoose's power so much, it deserves it. ya'll made my week. Hoping it evolves in scarlet and violet
@skimaskedabi
2 жыл бұрын
I wish that this channel gave a bit more love to vgc, I know Kellen is a singles player and VGC events have been on hiatus since the pandemic but vgc is known for 'any mon can work in some capacity' (seriously though I got to top 500 in the world with *stunfisk* in series 12 which allows 2 restricted legendaries AND dynamax) I don't think you necessarily need placements to highlight the useful sets; especially since that's how the singles sets are described in these videos anyways. Plus, there is no sleep clause, strategy bans (other than no dupe items and no mythicals) or tiering, so you could highlight the potential other strategies that wouldn't fly in smogon singles. Also how good was CLEFAIRY actually when?
@Tuskor130
2 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand the existence of stuff like "UU borderline." So you're telling me that if a pokemon is too bad for one tier but it would dominate the tier right below it, then it wouldn't be allowed to be in the tier where it would actually perform well? So instead of letting the pokemon exist in a tier where it would dominate, its only allowed to either be in a tier where its unusable or exist in a weird purgatory of non use? Like it doesn't make sense to me, if the only options are let the pokemon dominate one tier, suffer in another, or have it unusable outside a specific game mode, just let it dominate a tier. I understand there's exceptions to this sort of mindset like Mega Rayquaza being so strong it requires its own No Mans Land style tier, but just let my edgy little mongoose boy be good
@MorganKing95
2 жыл бұрын
Smogon tiers are not based on viability, but usage (though a Pokémon isn't really used much if it's not viable enough). Therefore, you're free to use any Pokémon in the tiers above, but it would be pretty unbalanced to use a Pokémon in a lower tier when it has pretty much no counters down there. You can compare it with an athlete who's an older teen and tries to compete against adults, but is understandably not allowed to play against young children
@PillzmansFox
2 жыл бұрын
He did it, he finally did Zangoose, I can now finally rest.
@afox8050
2 жыл бұрын
Do Seviper next
@drew_ytp
2 жыл бұрын
Seviper : *Uses toxic* Zangoose : CALL AN AMBULANCE... But not for me 😌
@donkarasu-9644
2 жыл бұрын
Bought a copy of Ruby months ago, and I'm having fun with Zangoose on my team. It has a good design and great concept with its rivalry with Seviper.
@phyllotaxis
2 жыл бұрын
I do wish they kept the purple claws from its Gen 3 sprites, it was a neat explanation for the stripes all over Seviper (like how Seviper's teeth match the marks on Zangoose)
@fulltimeslackerii8229
2 жыл бұрын
we’re like 4 years into this channel and this is the 1st time i’ve ever heard of the “200” meta
@pacoramon9468
2 жыл бұрын
I'm betting "How good was Seviper actually" for the next video.
@lorddarkrai7712
2 жыл бұрын
My man Zangoose is insane, it started out rough but absolutely obliterated everything with facade and coverage. I’m so happy to see it succeed
@Smeatbass
2 жыл бұрын
Zangoose has been my favorite Pokémon since 2003. I've EV trained so many over the years, and have used in UU and OU many times with the right protection. He is a vastly under appreciated Pokémon. Long live the great Zangoose. Forever my buddy and the heart of my team.
@nohrianscum9791
2 жыл бұрын
Zangoose and Seviper being the Montagues and Capulets of the Pokémon world is an even better comparison when you consider they're in the same Egg Group, ie, compatible to breed.
@phyllotaxis
2 жыл бұрын
Enemies to Lovers
@freddyP300
2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for Seviper! Hopefully it comes next!
@JoeyRavn
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: "Wherefore" means "for what reason". So FSG was asking "Why are you Zangoose?". Because it wants to, I guess.
@advaithadarsh2703
2 жыл бұрын
please do bronzong!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@robbylava
2 жыл бұрын
0:30 No joke though, if Tybalt Capulet was a Pokemon trainer his signature 'mon would DEFINITELY be Zangoose. Hot-headed, slash-y, hates poison, and even a cute reference to that other famous literary Tybalt, the Prince of Cats (cuz let's face it, Zangoose is one feline-looking mongoose).
@JermTheWerm123
2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad Zangoose was able to perform well when it had time to shine!😮💨
@carlosdeaustria4448
2 жыл бұрын
But how DRUNK was Spinda actually???
@bup420
2 жыл бұрын
Yooo, Zangoose my boiii. One of my favorite mons, only behind Absol.
@dariogomezlopez3278
2 жыл бұрын
Ngl I was really hoping for incineroar's but I'll have to take it
@christopherdangelo1292
2 жыл бұрын
As a result it actually has a few players in its player base making use of it to good affect, albeit it had to use fake out and thus mis out on a coverage option, usually knock off
@beeorsomething2230
2 жыл бұрын
You should do seviper next because it’s like a pair with zangoose
@razorsharp5643
2 жыл бұрын
This thing's actually pretty solid in Pokemon GO's Battle League format, being a very hard hitter due to Pokemon GO's CP mechanics letting it use a lot of it's power, as well as being able to easily overcome opposing Ghosts and Steels which are common there. It uses Close Combat, Night Slash and Shadow Claw there, since you only get one "quick" attack and two "charged attacks" in GO's battle system.
@Lrizu
2 жыл бұрын
Which league? Great or Ultra?
@magmarman2633
2 жыл бұрын
Enh, it's not absolute amazing in Open formats. In stuff like Silph formats or some GBL closed metas tho, it's definitely a threat
@selectionforsocietalsanity
2 жыл бұрын
Second
@alejandroduque609
2 жыл бұрын
I always put ryuko to all the zangoose I capture. Theres something in the design that say "kill la kill" to me
@Chinchou69
2 жыл бұрын
Asking for How GOOD was Lanturn actually day 4
@jamesbiggs8397
2 жыл бұрын
Giving it Trick/Switcheroo to dump it's Toxic Orb off onto something, then getting a better item in exchange would be amazing
@lertik3898
2 жыл бұрын
Zangoose is too frail for that, though. It's a legitimate glass cannon that doesn't have the time to use Trick, especially when it could just do 50-100% of the opponent's HP instead
@jamesbiggs8397
2 жыл бұрын
@@lertik3898 Fair, but if you could pull it off on a switch it would be better. While you're essentially gambling with what item you get, if any, it could help Zangoose in higher tiers where counters that don't want their items lost would suffer.
@bb2fiddler
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbiggs8397 nah man, that'd be an almost never-used gimmick... Swapping on zangoose is just a poor play in general, and like lertick said it's better to just let zangoose do its job and click SD or attack
@ZyrusSmith
2 жыл бұрын
This video was too long. Halfway through it, I got hungry so I left it playing and went to the kitchen to fix myself a sandwich. But then I found out that I'm out of mayonnaise so I went to a store. There, I saw the most beautiful woman I have ever seen in my whole life. But I'm a really shy person so I took up a three-year personality development course so I could introduce myself. She was very friendly and all, but unfortunately, she had a boyfriend. So I said, all good, I'm a mature person. I wanted the best for her and I harbored no illusion that I am the best person for her and she seemed happy with her boyfriend, so I didn't bother her anymore. But we kept in touch and we became friends and I got over my crush on her. Then she broke up with her boyfriend, we drank some alcohol because of it. I told her she'll be fine and I wished her well. I still think she's the most beautiful woman in the world, but like I said, I am over my crush on her. It was like five years already since I first saw her. Besides, I am quite happy with the friendship I developed with her. It was more important than a crush. So we kept hanging out, drinking, having coffee, and all. I had a girlfriend, she started dating other guys. My girlfriend wanted to live some other life without me in it, so I said, "Okay, I want the best for you and I want you to pursue your happiness." My lady friend and I drank alcohol about it, and she gave me the same advice I gave her when she was in that position and I became okay with the breakup immediately. But we were really drunk, so she spent the night in my apartment. I only have one bed, so you know what that means: She took the bed and I slept on the couch. But on the couch, I really can't sleep. Something was bothering me. So I tossed and turned for about three hours, then I finally couldn''t take it anymore, I stood up and went straight to my room where she's sleeping. I approached the bed, gently sat on it and I reached for her shoulder to pull her closer to me. She stirred and woke up. She asked what's up. I told her, "you know, the first time I saw you, I was watching a video and left it playing to get myself a sandwich then went to the store to get some mayo then I got so distracted by life that I forgot to finish the video." She said, "You know what, I've been wondering about a weird noise in your night drawer." So we opened that drawer, and lo and behold, there's my phone and this video still has two minutes of play time on it.
@AzoiatheCobra
2 жыл бұрын
toxic boost should also give one of the following: give imunity to poison (both status and type) or a speed boost
@Ashelybee
2 жыл бұрын
Weird how zangoose dosen't get poison heal
@georgecortes3416
2 жыл бұрын
Two things I wanna say about Zangoose: First, I remember the Shadow Zangoose in Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness owned by Thug Zook and how it got obliterated by Ardos' Alakazam! (or Manectric in XG: Next Gen) Second, if I could buff Toxic Boost, I'd also make it so Zangoose doesn't take Poison damage each turn; so it ends up being a mix of Guts and Magic Guard!
@pipohemm8726
2 жыл бұрын
It wasnt bulky at all but damn did it blast through the whole ruby game with swords dance, brick break and shadow ball
@terryliliana
2 жыл бұрын
my favorite Pokemon of all time. i still proudly use him.
@Trinsicity
2 жыл бұрын
I ran Substitute, Swords Dance and Flail on my Zangoose with the speed boosting berry and it swept everything.
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