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@meowmutu
9 күн бұрын
Another banger video
@Frosty_46
9 күн бұрын
you should talk about pgr it has a pretty good gacha system
@Jenazadp
9 күн бұрын
@@Frosty_46 Yea it is a good system but wouldn't really work as its super low money earned
@Jpgdo
9 күн бұрын
The 50/50 system isn't a friendly system towards the players, but that's exactly why they added it. There's a dopamine hit knowing you get 5 star on a 10 pull and the anticipation of going through the rolls. The uncertainty of winning the banner character make it addicting the same way gambling is
@yololoyo7379
9 күн бұрын
As Tectone said, gacha gamers is all about mindset
@Arkastopheles
9 күн бұрын
This system is what keeps me away from these games. Now that the money i spend in games is my own, what these games offer is not enough for me to support them.
@dongarippo7279
9 күн бұрын
Snowbreak added bit more rolls but a 100% banner. They are the most gacha friendly ever. Amazing Seasun! They give plenty of stuff for you to get every character each pull, with only a 5 buck subscription. You are almost guaranteed to get every event character. They earn most of their money on skins and most of us gooners, support them by doing just that. And it's a fun game!
@daviduba5060
9 күн бұрын
@@dongarippo7279 if we're talking about absolute "most gacha friendly" there's Azur Lane which has the best rolling system ever But for me I feel like Nikke has one of my favorite gacha systems where you can easily get the characters you want with enough planning and they give you lots of rolls. The only downside is the skin pricing but that's cosmetic anyways lol
@stranger5783
9 күн бұрын
Tell us genshin was your first gacha without telling us... Most gachas out there not only dont give you a 50/ 50 change for your 5 star, but you dont even have a pity system Is the 50/50 still shit? Yes Is it friendlier than other gacha to the players? Yes
@Shirker12
9 күн бұрын
Honestly, my main issue with Mihoyo gachas is the fact that *every* new character is limited. Yeah, they get reruns, but they're only available on those banners. I prefer games where most of the released characters get added to the standard pool after the banner ends, like Arknights. That way, you're not stuck with the same handful of useless characters everytime you lose a 50/50. Looking at you, Qiqi and Bailu.
@stormer2349
9 күн бұрын
I hope that the characters that Genshin adds to the standard banner are actually useful characters, but ones who have gone off meta. Characters like Xiao, Tartag, Kokomi, etc, would be nice additions. Characters who are not useless.
@pontoancora
9 күн бұрын
Tighnari and Dehya
@invisibrawl
9 күн бұрын
you mean arknights, where the limited banners never rerun as rate up ever again? You could have picked any other example and it would've been better. but arknights? really? The powercreep limited chars like Eyjalter, Wisadel, Texas, Ling, will never be rate up ever again, are not part of the standard banner, and the only way you can get them is if you save up 300 pulls for the next limited banner that they appear as off banner on. And even old non limited characters were separated into the kernel banner, where your pity from your standard pulls do not carry over, basically asking you to fuck yourself if you want an OG unit like Exusiai/Blaze/Saria I would have agreed if you stated any other game, but arknights of the current day is not it.
@Shirker12
9 күн бұрын
@invisibrawl Honestly, it's really the only one I'm familiar with, other than HSR. So I went with the game I know. I don't disagree with you, though. My point wasn't about the limiteds, just the fact that *most* characters are added to standard. I 100% agree that the way Arknights handles limited operators is really bad, but at least there's only a handful every year, rather than *every* banner.
@lightingbolt6680
9 күн бұрын
exactly, with all the old characters (maybe the characters that have been rerun twice) in the standard pool the 50/50 system will look much better.
@KholdStare54
9 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. There is another factor of the mihoyo gacha system that you didn't mention. In most games, when you "lose" the rate up, you can get any other previous character that wasn't a collab. In games that uses the mihoyo gacha system, losing the 50/50 gives you a standard banner character...a pool that very rarely gets increased. So after a while, losing a 50/50 is essentially worthless, whereas in other games, losing the rate up can potentially get you a previous limited character.
@Jenazadp
9 күн бұрын
True, tbh though games have been spamming that limited stuff for a long time
@Homiloko2
9 күн бұрын
Agreed with Jena, this limited stuff had already picked up before Mihoyo. However, in most gachas the old characters usually get added to the standard pool after a couple of re-runs, but I don't think this happens in Genshin
@stefanrer1037
9 күн бұрын
Yep but the standard pool gets deluted so much after some time that your chance of getting anything usefull is almost nothing.
@stefanrer1037
9 күн бұрын
+ half of those games have character progression locked behind dupes if not all of them
@arnowisp6244
9 күн бұрын
Learned about this in Reverse 1999 where losing the Gacha gets you a Previous Character. And I thought they were Super generous for that.
@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082
9 күн бұрын
No wonder Genshin popular in Japan, their pity system are better than other Gacha from Japan.
@cartoonvideos5
9 күн бұрын
They like being milked by corporations
@arocomisgamusclademork1603
9 күн бұрын
Not like Capcom, Hideo Kojima and Platinum Games
@vantagehgc3499
7 күн бұрын
@@arocomisgamusclademork1603hideo kojima isn't a company? he's the guy that made metal gear. do you mean komani? lol
@arocomisgamusclademork1603
7 күн бұрын
@@vantagehgc3499 Konami separate Hideo Kojima after Metal Gear Solid better received overwhelming positive before Konami banned Kojima getting award
@r3zaful
6 күн бұрын
@@arocomisgamusclademork1603 i knew exactly that kojima are given full creative control but cant work under limited budget, its all working for both konami and kojima anyway for both of them to part ways, konami can keep their other studio budget, like hudson studio etc (best selling switch game in japan is momotaro railway for 3 years in a row), while kojima can work with higher budget on his own.
@Mysteriio007
9 күн бұрын
Which is why I really hope Kuro uses the PGR gacha system instead in the future!
@hanacy_
9 күн бұрын
devs listen in 2.0 believe
@Jenazadp
9 күн бұрын
It's a great system... but sadly probably doesn't make a ton of money
@yololoyo7379
9 күн бұрын
Nahh not really profitable for them
@ebering4.039
9 күн бұрын
Their main income in that game is pretty much just skins
@cynthiahembree3957
9 күн бұрын
Great news apparently the devs are discussing gacha changes internally. Let’s hope for the best
@hungrysnail.
9 күн бұрын
As FGO player pre pity era, as a funny note FGO had a "pity" the system called Unregistered Spirit Origin (USO) In short, you need 10 USO currency to select one SSR, to obtain an USO you must have a SSR character in full copies, in hoyo standard C6, then on your C7 you get one USO, so you must do a minimum C16
@Musashi42069
9 күн бұрын
One thing to add: I HATE THE CONSTELLATION SYSTEM!! 😡
@ThomasAndy-qu8dp
9 күн бұрын
it's especially bad when you can see the character is incomplete without some constellation LOOKING AT YOU HU TAO
@ushiima
9 күн бұрын
@@ThomasAndy-qu8dp at least it’s a five star which you can eventually guarantee , 4 stars on the other hand (specifically faruzan)
@arnowisp6244
9 күн бұрын
@@ThomasAndy-qu8dpNowadays they are Complete without C1...But they do make things more Convenient with C1.
@megatoro9015
9 күн бұрын
What do you think is the best system? Because the constellation system is the way they give whales a reason to go all out, and every game has a equivalent of it, FGO has the np level, increasing the damage of the np (the ultimate) of a character, Azur lane and Blue archive use the star system where characters can increase their rarity with copies, and doing it increases their raw stats, Since is system to get people to spend more money don't say "none, have full power characters from the start"
@Kokichus
9 күн бұрын
@@ThomasAndy-qu8dp you can easily play hu tao without C1
@infinitrax
9 күн бұрын
What I hate the most about Mihoyo is that every new unit is 'limited', stripping the word of all meaning and turning fomo up to 11.
@sssspider
9 күн бұрын
To be fair this is not specific to Mihoyo nor were they the trendsetters here. It’s pretty industry-standard, games that actually have a sizable and good standard pool are in the minority.
@dongarippo7279
9 күн бұрын
@@sssspider That mindset of yours, mihoyo upvoted you :)
@dongarippo7279
9 күн бұрын
I'd go for snowbreak, every new event character you will get. Of course you will be left behind on the old ones and may want to pay some to get them but.. it's the most generous gacha out there! and fun gun play and hot anime girls!
@daviduba5060
9 күн бұрын
True I've played other gacha games and nearly 90% of the cast you can get on standard where with mihoyo if you don't play the game at the right time you can't get the characters you want sadly Everyday I wish ZZZ wasn't made by mihoyo but sadly I gotta deal with it since I love the game...
@Sheevlord
9 күн бұрын
1. Not "every" unit, but only 5-stars 2. They are called "limited" because the banner is available for a limited time. How does it strip the word of its meaning exactly?
@johndebaun7125
9 күн бұрын
I think it depends on your mindset. For my own sanity having a guarantee is a must have now. Knowing the low rate of SSR I know the feeling of getting super unlucky where I pull the SSR and not getting the rate up character everytime and end up going to pity which feels disgusting and make you even more depressed even if you got the character.
@yearslate9349
7 күн бұрын
Really would have loved if Wuthering Waves went with PGR's gacha mechanics. I went into PGR blind to how their gacha worked, but when I looked into it and found out, I was flabbergasted. PGR's had my constant support since then.
@inokori7146
9 күн бұрын
i pity anyone (like myself) who started their gacha journey with FGO, that shit destroys the mind personally i started it to know the girls i was jacking it to
@mfwiloseintouhoubossfights9305
9 күн бұрын
Haven't played since I got prototype Merlin, since she was my main goal before she was even announced in the game, now I feel empty and warframe takes my grind time
@VanJ78
7 күн бұрын
Same, i started myself with FGO JP, the game is one of the worst gacha systems that i played, starter roll no *5 servant guaranteed , no pity, 10x roll 40 SQ in 1st anniversary they reduce it to 10x roll 30 SQ, i just realize it FGO not good after i play Idola Phantasy Star Saga JP version even though part 2 screw up the game.
@inokori7146
6 күн бұрын
@@VanJ78 its really a bad game, if it didnt hate the fate name attached to it, it would have been dead in 1 year, compared to it, even genshin's quality of life and gacha are a godsend
@phoenixlau
9 күн бұрын
It's just a difference in mindset. I'm F2P in all Hoyo games and view every character costing the maximum 180 pulls as default, budgeting my pulls accordingly. If I lose the flip, I'm already prepared both mentally and resource-wise. If I win or even better, win early, then I collect the huge windfall. Add the savings to the warchest for future units. The mistake is going in thinking I'm going to win the flip, I'm going to get it early. I see this all the time in pulling videos, the cc will get increasingly agitated with every 10-pull. This is just gambling addiction mindset. However, your loss is our F2P gain, just like credit card late fees for scrubs fuel cashback rewards for the savvy, so I thank you for your sacrifice.
@DaBarby
9 күн бұрын
To add for Nikke’s gacha system. Most recruitable characters are not limited to their banners, they will join the standard gacha system after about 1-3 updates. So if you skip a banner and a wait a few updates, you can roll the standard gacha and possibly get the Nikke that was previously on banner. The only characters that are limiteds are collab units (no reruns) and seasonal summer and Christmas units, and they have rerun banners during their respective seasons as separate from the current seasonal banner. In addition, you can wishlist standard SSR Nikkes in the standard gacha so when you pull on the standard gacha, any and all SSR pulls will be the SSR Nikkes you made a wishlist for or the highly rated Pilgrim units that you can’t wishlist for but most are considered meta. It doesn’t change the SSR rates but it does make sure that players can choose which characters they want to pull in the standard recruitment pool.
@invisibrawl
9 күн бұрын
nikke would be perfect if it didnt need u to have 5 full lmbs to get past 160 even with freebies like snow white im still missing one lmb for the synchro room
@MefoWho
9 күн бұрын
@@invisibrawl how long have you been playing lol? its an afk game, you gonna be walled by something else anyway.
@kuratse205
9 күн бұрын
I started my first gacha back with Brave Frontier. Back in the old days of gacha, the standard rates for max rarity is 2%. Now because of genshin, the standard is a 0.6% and a 50/50 fail rate. The main reason why FGO had such a bad reputation was because it had a 1% drop rate with no pity system, during a time where gachas had 2% drop rate and pity. Genshin also gives significantly less gacha currency than ALL gacha games made before then. About 1/3 of the norm. And Genshin also made all characters limited, removing the fact that standard pool has all previous characters made. Before that, all gacha banners were either "rate up banner", "selector banner", "standard pool banner" (includes almost all past rate up characters), and " paid banner". Now with Genshin, it is either "limited banner", or "standard banner" (does not include any limited characters).
@Lyzwyzrd
9 күн бұрын
The 50/50 is bad in the Mihoyo execution, I agree with that. At least in games like reverse 1999 they make up for it with increased currency density, and a better reward system. Example: I was pulling on, I don't remember whose banner, I think Regulus. I lost my 50/50 on my 6 star pull, and got Ezra. There's no such thing as standard characters in Reverse 1999, just featured and non-featured. The characters aren't bad either. if you lose your 50/50, you aren't left with an unusable 6 star, unlike in genshin where a bulk of the standard characters are incredibly niche (Immortality Dehya, Plunge Diluc) or completely unusable (Qiqi) and the 5 stars of Reverse 1999 are strong in their own right too. I don't invest much into my characters, but my team usually consists of Dikke, Tennant, and a third character that can vary between Marcus, P1 Windsong, Ezra, Lucy, or even Lorelei. (Yes! That's how generous R99 is. It's so easy to get 6 stars) I also feel like I can set down the game without stress, they don't rely on FOMO to sell, but they sell anyway, just because people like the game. I don't worry about missing an event, because they often do event reruns.
@Yesido470
9 күн бұрын
Arknights Has similar gacha system and upcoming this month fellow moon gacha in China. It's not like every gacha system now is similar to Hoyoverse, as others existed even before it.
@leonidesbabanto1585
9 күн бұрын
also Reverse 1999 is ridiculously easier compared to other gachas, as long as you have a functioning team you can clear anything that is of value anyways. The main appeal of R1999 is the story really
@invisibrawl
9 күн бұрын
@@Yesido470 arknights has a shitty gacha system. if you miss wisadel this coming banner, you have no hope of getting her until she reruns as off banner in the next limited banner. and even then the only way you guarantee her is if you save up 300 pity for that banner and buy her from the shop. and this is the worst part. the gacha income of arknights per month is lower than even the hoyo games. you're practically required to buy the monthly if you want to hit the 300 spark pity of the limited banners
@kizunarin2795
9 күн бұрын
@@invisibrawl The misinformation in this comment is crazy.
@Yesido470
9 күн бұрын
@@invisibrawl get Shenhe in genshin now 😂
@WadeWontson
9 күн бұрын
I'm hoping more gachas will implement a "no 50/50" banner - so far, I've seen this implemented in PGR, Aether Gazer and Snowbreak. Nikke's gacha system is alright as well but the infamous 160 wall can be a dealbreaker for some and it's important to note that Pilgrim rates are worse than non-Pilgrim units. Azur Lane's system is better if you only care about meta units (UR ships are guaranteed within 200 pulls and research ships can be grinded out) but there is unfortunately no pity for SSR and elite ships, which sucks if one particular ship keeps evading you. Besides the 50/50, I think it's also important to take other gacha banners into consideration, e.g. weapon/pet/equipment banners, and other factors. For example, Path to Nowhere has a 50/50 and a dupes system, but the base S rank rate is 2%, there is no weapon gacha, not every unit is meta-defining, only 2 limited units release yearly, and dupes aren't always needed so I still consider the game generous. On top of that, the game only has physical and magic elements compared to, for example, Nikke or R1999, both of which have that annoying rock-paper-scissors elemental system that pushes players to pull for more units.
@Lkowalski02
9 күн бұрын
I literally quit genshin after I lost my 50/50 on yae miko banner, so let's just say I really feel you here
@anibotic
7 күн бұрын
I'm here since I lost my first timer limited banner pull in GI. It marks my 3rd consecutive loss on 1st timer limited banner pulls in Gachas. I know I'm unlucky but man it hurts. 1. HSR - Dan Heng IL - Welt 2. WuWa - Yinlin - Encore 3. GI - Raiden - Diluc As a Sky Arena player, I can atleast guarantee a char in 180 pulls in the new Gacha era but my main problem with this is I need weapons, more char copies & need to get them in the limited time of a banner's run which in tandem makes it a not so gud system. Some older Gacha that I played made it easier to get copies or some other alternative to replace the utility given by said copies. If only the limited char cud be acquired later without relying on a rerun or a special item that cud achieve a copy's requirement for that char.
@DividedReaIity
9 күн бұрын
I was told to come here at gunpoint...
@taufiqtirtajiwangga8044
9 күн бұрын
So you are the person next to me too...
@inser3882
9 күн бұрын
I was told to watch this video or i wont be let out of the basement. Are you guys above me rn?
@FulaxoPishulaxo
9 күн бұрын
Honestly, genshin's gacha system is disgusting for me, and this coming from someone who played the game for like 3 years I just hate that whole "every character is limited" bs, and the standard pool rarely ever gets updated, they could put a lot of characters that aren't really that meta anymore, like Tartaglia, Xiao, Shenhe, Eula, you name it but nooo, they are too stingy about it and keep the daam old same characters in the pool, that shit becomes annoying when you end up maxing one of them or having a lot of their constellations And don't make me start about the whole stupidity that constellations are, I know other gachas do their own things too with dupes, like nikke putting a wall when it comes to leveling up your character, arknights being the most tame one in my opinion, giving you not that many crazy stuff with dupes, although reducing deployment cost it's neat, pgr locks some abilities behind the dupes, but at least you can get a SS character for free with the pain cage rewards, which is enough to get some useful abilities or passives in some cases, blue archive gives you the material to give more stars to your character, which just mean making it more stronger and unlocking some goodies, but nothing too crazy When it comes to genshin, these aholes puts really useful and game changing things behind constellations, things that determine whether a character is viable or not at C0, and let's not talk about the 4* which everyone says they only work at C6 Regarding the gacha, I can't say much, I find the 50/50 + pity very functional, if it wasn't because getting the primogems outside of payment it's quite annoying, you literally have to skip a lot of banners if you want to play f2p and save up for a character you want Pgr has one of the most friendly gachas I've seen, you get enough time to farm for a new character with events and all, free dupe, very high rate for the new character with their own banner, one that carries out the progress you did in gacha, in which you have a 60 pulls before you get the limited character out of pity. a Shame wuthering waves didn't follow much this gacha system, I mean, I understand since it won't generate them that much revenue, but going for something similar to genshin? eugh
@ziebus904
9 күн бұрын
Okay youre just retarted😂
@__BlacklotuS__
9 күн бұрын
Booba...booba is how they did it
@sb18wlc
9 күн бұрын
Another thing is the constellation system and all new characters are always "limited banners". I came from an old head gacha era so seeing everyone copy the same shitty system actually pisses me off, you only used to need one copy of the character now you need X amount of copies to be actually usable how predatory is that.
@WadeWontson
9 күн бұрын
I dislike hoyo's bs and I agree that having every single character be "limited" is bullshit as well, but you don't 100% need constellations for characters to work in genshin (at least for most of the 5* characters). This does vary as some characters are more dupe-dependent than others but all are generally usable at C0. That being said, they're making a shit ton of money milking loyal players so I think they can afford to make more F2P-friendly units and improve the gacha system.
@sb18wlc
9 күн бұрын
@@WadeWontson 5★ Partially true but I hate how many times "This should have been part of the base kit" came to my mind. 4★ are even worse having the biggest value on 6th cons and there's no reliable way to get them, heck sometimes it's harder to C6 a 4★ than to C2 a 5★.
@WadeWontson
9 күн бұрын
@@sb18wlc I understand that frustration, sometimes it can feel like a bit too much is locked behind dupes. 4*s can indeed be worse, it doesn't help that hoyo seems to rerun older or less useful 4*s more often instead of newer ones.
@TwoToo_
9 күн бұрын
Lmfao you only need one copy bozo, i cleared hsr with 6 limited characters after missing 6/7 50/50s over the past 6 months. You're just not patient enough or you're dumb as rocks if you think copies are important
@invisibrawl
9 күн бұрын
There has not been a single 5* character in the last 2 years that needed more than C0, this outdated take shows a lack of actual playing the game and more just whining, and if ur referring to 4 stars, they're not limited anyway.
@ringyn
9 күн бұрын
don't forget to add that in Nikke, the new characters that were added to the special banner will soon be added to the standard one after a while
@Omnipheles
9 күн бұрын
You have to remember that in Nikke though, there's the 160 wall that acts as a way to get people to whale on dupes since otherwise you could be stuck there for a long-ass time if your luck is bad. There is also competitive content which, again, acts as a way for people to want a lot of dupes to rank higher.
@ImproperStandby
9 күн бұрын
You can also store tickets to just nab a character if you didn't spend them. I have legit sat on 400 golden tickets for a good while and blew 200 on the Eva banner
@ringyn
9 күн бұрын
also even in the standard banner you can pick Three nikki that you want from each of the 4 factions when you pull.
@cartoonvideos5
9 күн бұрын
@@OmniphelesYea 160 wall is trash. You'd think by now, it would have been removed.
@daviduba5060
9 күн бұрын
@@cartoonvideos5 well they give free MLBs to help with the wall every 6 months (the anni's) but yeah I it should be removed bruh
@hellbounded2602
9 күн бұрын
I'm glad my gacha experience started with Brave Frontier. It made me to play gacha games as games, and not casino.
@daRksideee
9 күн бұрын
I feel like playing an ancient game when it doesn't have a carry over pity system
@zztop8776
9 күн бұрын
Im currently playing Brown Dust 2 and played Artery Gear(rip). They both had systems where you could any "5 star" that isnt limited on the banner whenever. While both giving 1 free pull every day. BD2 has a 100 pull guarantee 5 star and a draw point system that can be used on any current character (or weapon) banner. Big fan of this system and wish other games had it as well.
@unlimitedslash
9 күн бұрын
Artery Gear died? i thought they only left it in life support and could still be played.
@zztop8776
9 күн бұрын
@unlimitedslash No it does. I just said because it's EOS soon.
@unlimitedslash
9 күн бұрын
@@zztop8776 Damn.... really liked it, never managed to finish the story... welp, i managed to get Meredith, best waifu, so my main goal was achieved... It sucks... i hope they release an offline version.
@zztop8776
9 күн бұрын
@unlimitedslash Same. I started purely for the Neptunia collab. Game actually had one the best gearing systems imo.
@jjr748
9 күн бұрын
Im glad to say that Genshin and F/GO werent my first gacha. I started on something better
@Toksyuryel
9 күн бұрын
My favorite system is Guardian Tales. Every 300 pulls you can just straight up buy _any character you want_
@invisibrawl
9 күн бұрын
except for the collab chars but yes. only real issue with GT is the lmb on the weapons matter a lot in the pvp
@bluewiz0090
9 күн бұрын
If every gacha were like E7 where you if you know what you want you can get it (on RGB non ML) and a skin system a think we would have much better time playing them.
@calderaxia
20 сағат бұрын
There's a reason why Epic7 players jumped ship to HSR as a main game the moment an opportunity is given. We did not, in fact, have a better time with them 😂
@naesala
3 күн бұрын
idk if it's my favorite gacha system per se, but Persona 5: The Phantom X makes weapon banner viable for F2P players with one simple change: It's 2/3 the cost of character banner. Character is 150, weapon is 100. Pity is also 80/70. Weapons are character specific, but levels carry over, so if you get a character's 4 star then get their 5 star later, you don't have to spend materials to level the new weapon. You can also straight up buy the 4 star weapons in a f2p friendly way. The game is also generally much more generous with how much currency they give for free. It takes the system that was popularized by Hoyoverse and gives it quality of life that really helps.
@AdamWestTheDrunk
9 күн бұрын
I'm so glad I was broke when I played fgo they would've robbed me like final fantasy brave exvius, kingdom hearts, epic seven, nikke, and genshin impact... none of them are no longer robbing me stupid, I've broke my addiction
@survivethenightstnyoutube
9 күн бұрын
U should also check out Limbus Company I haven't gathering like ages since there are multiple way to get the character
@YdenMk-II
5 күн бұрын
Maybe it's because I don't care much for drawing dupes but the 50/50 system is great for me. Whether the game uses a spark system or 50/50, my mindset is always to always expect the worst case and have enough draws saved up to hit the spark or get 2 SSRs with the 50/50. If I hit it earlier then it's lucky but I don't expect it to happen.
@indexx7395
9 күн бұрын
Hate 50/50 because of how i grief when i lost. Frick
@awooawoo9628
9 күн бұрын
For me though, the 50/50 will always be mentally better for me compared to the other gachas that have stuff like sparks or straight up no pity at all. I once saved an entire year straight in FGO for Merlin and by some miraculous star-aligned tier buttfuckery I didn't get him at all. So yeah 50/50's will always be better since at least you can mentally plan out your pulls akin to a really really long rogue-like.
@DelaneAtalanta
4 күн бұрын
Very cool channel, I don't usually sub to the content that is being reacted, but I like your takes and topics. Only 20k? I guess I'm here early.
@Jenazadp
4 күн бұрын
Hey thanks, will be doing more soon
@rentfree01
8 күн бұрын
And this is why I don't play gacha games anymore. Why would someone play Genshin Impact when games like The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, Red Dead Redemption 2, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, and The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild exist? Why would someone play Honkai: Star Rail when Final Fantasy VII, Dragon Quest XI, Persona 5, and Tales of Arise exist? Don't play gacha games. Play *legitimate* games instead.
@rickybobby5153
7 күн бұрын
Because all of the games you listed are almost 10 years old and every single release from western devs now cost $100+ and are filled to the brim with macro transactions, cut content, DEI and censorship and game breaking bugs
@pntl-i6e
9 күн бұрын
I think my problem with mihoyo's gacha is not necessarily the 50/50 system. In theory, I think it's a fair system since you get the guaranteed character that you want after 180 pulls, which is basically a pseudo-spark considering there's always only one character on rate-up. The problem for me comes with how many few pulls you can get for free since mihoyo has always been stingy about giving away free pulls but, most importantly, how every character banner is limited meaning that it's impossible for you to get spooked by a character from a previous limited banner. It reaches a point where you either get elated by pulling what you want or extremely depressed for failing to win the 50/50, there's no in between like in games where you have non-limited 5 star banners where you can at least be satisfied by pulling a new non limited off rate 5 star as a cope for not pulling what you were aiming for. In other words, the way I see it, FOMO is the the true evil behind mihoyo's gacha and that's the trend that I hate seeing from modern gachas. Anyway, good video.
@Misaki896
9 күн бұрын
why should a character cost 200+ dollars, that's ridiculous
@pontoancora
9 күн бұрын
80 pulls at average for update isn't good enough?
@gergokerekes4550
9 күн бұрын
@@pontoancora nah they want a guaranteed 5* each 2 weeks for free.
@pontoancora
9 күн бұрын
@@gergokerekes4550 I really dont understand these people. How many chars they need to play a game? I have 75 chars right now, and i build every single one of them to max, i try to play with HALF of them, and i really feel that if i only had 1/4 of it i wouldnt feel any difference.
@unlimitedslash
9 күн бұрын
@@pontoancora moreover, a lot of the good characters have been given or are actually free, Fischl is still a reward for doing abyss as a newbie right? And now we have Kachina as a free character, the same for a lot of other characters that range from decent to good, to downright meta/OP, and this trend repeats across games, recently Wuthering Waves was literally giving away for free Xiangli Yao, a stupidly strong unit, for free, just do the event, Azur Lane has really good characters literally free, you just gotta grind them, the duo of Kaga/Akagi in what it was 3-4? i remember grinding that map for a month to max both of them. With the currencies you get from pulling you can exchange for dupes or other useful characters, Xingqiu, Xiangling and Fischl come to mind and still are to this day meta units for lots of teams in Genshin, the same goes to other games, Wuthering Waves gives you like 3 5* units for free just to start playing you can make the most of it by building a team with those units or aim to get a single unit straight to C2, for free, with dupes in the shop further upgrade to C4, something completely doable as a F2P, and with really good units like Jianxin (i'm personally following the route of upgrade to the maximum possible this unit), Verina or Calcharo, and that's ignoring that the main character is actually useful and really powerful in that game. Honestly speaking a lot of the fun of playing gacha games is resource management, if you come to play a game like this expecting to pull in every single banner, unless you have a golden mastercard you're just gonna have a terrible experience.
@ace1nonly220
6 күн бұрын
I spend most of my time during the pandemic grinding camo on cod. Oh & I started with Honkai Impact 3rd on 2019
@logikx1325
9 күн бұрын
Being real here, Gacha is the problem. Why does everything have to be a dopamine hit. I miss the days of paying once for a complete product. I am lucky enough to have the money (and yes, I play Genshin and pull for the characters I want by swiping) but Genshin is by far and away the most expensive game I've ever played. I was subbed to World of Warcraft for 14 years......I've bought many 50-100$ ships in World of Warships......they pale next to Genshin in cost for a "satisfying" experience.
@hyokkyo
9 күн бұрын
If casino still exists, there's no way that they gonna remove gacha system
@SageRuffin
9 күн бұрын
@@hyokkyo Agreed. Plus some people are stupid. I've seen some folks argue that they would drop the game _if the gacha was removed_ (because gods forbid you just play the game, gather your mats, and unlock the characters/weapons that way).
@pontoancora
9 күн бұрын
To be honest, being gacha is better than if they weren't. You just need to make better spending decisions.
@unlimitedslash
9 күн бұрын
Just a note: in gachas paying is an OPTION, you can totally go F2P through the entire game, getting the good units without paying and overall do everything, you just have to 1 be patient and 2 manage your resources, you can't go pulling in every damn banner that comes out, even less aggressive games like Arknights are like this, nowadays unless there's a really strong unit in the standard banner there is no point in pulling on it, and even that's questionable, since you can simply wait until you can purchase said character, you simply save for the limited units, or for the joint banners every 3 to 6 months, and that's it, you basically pull 3 times a year at most. Although genshin never updated the store/standard character you can purchase, many of them are still really strong and totally meta units, Fischl and Xiangling, Xingqiu, even Beidou.
@jukesdtj656
9 күн бұрын
Funnily enough it was actually WINNING 50/50's that made me take my biggest break from the game yet. It got kind of overwhelming how many new characters I had but not the resources to invest into them when before I had a pretty consistent cycle of wishing on a banner, losing the 50/50, saving up for someone I really wanted, and then using that character until I had managed to build them, get them to Friendship 10, and had saved and wished enough to guarantee another new character. I spent quite a bit on the game but I honestly enjoyed the game way more when I had less, it felt like Gacha had a single redeeming quality to speak of in that with my limited resources these where the characters that belonged to my account because I wanted them specifically. This was of course a fabrication of the reality that is gacha hell but it was a manageable one back during covid when free time was plentiful.
@TheArmOS
9 күн бұрын
I agree with you but I think it goes beyond that because they introduced the combo of 50/50, every char being limited and the power of constellations. If any of these 3 didn't exist there would be a lot less pressure on the player to throw rolls on current banner fomo. Selling dupes is the key to really making bank when your banner rotations are 3 weeks.
@HansDerWeise
9 күн бұрын
Love the video, great editing I believe more players would be willing to spend money on a gacha game if they were guaranteed to receive the character at the pity mark, instead of a coin flip.
@J27J
2 күн бұрын
Song at 11:18?
@vontecontroll1556
9 күн бұрын
Thats when the gacha vets walk in and tell you about saving or flipping the coin in wuwa ive been able to get most of the new five stars just from playing the whole patch. I do see them adding the no 50/50 for characters later cause its in pgr but other than that the weapons have no 50/50
@invisibrawl
9 күн бұрын
why would they add no 50-50 for chars theyre already bleeding money as it is
@F0xdash
9 күн бұрын
what really depress me is the fact that single player games are becoming disrespected by big companies who see customers as just numbers for algorithm and making crap games thinking we would not give a damn, and forcing us to seek solace in gambling games, like gachas. sometimes i feel so much fun playing Zenless Zone, for example, because the gameplay is engaging and fun, but then i remember that i have daily farming, limiting my farm to level up my characters, i have to save for gacha, i have to make events to have more materials for level up... live service games are consuming my life, i feel lifeless... i don't feel myself. this world become gray... why live? why keep going? even things that was fun now became a chore... just end this, already... i'm so sick of this!
@NoWastedPotential
9 күн бұрын
i remember summoners war being my very first and getting mad when i lost my account i quit it forever then afk arena came around but they got greedy quick and their awful dupe system. Getting burned out with the grind of simply building a team and or certain characters is what makes me not want to engage in it at all. At least gacha games are trying to keep up with standards but in the end it's still predatory and demands your time with timed events and limited characters.
@indomitable2566
9 күн бұрын
The thing I see here is a lot of games cited with a more generous gacha system probably do not require the same expenses as a game of a large scale like genshin impact, so being more generous can be afforded even if it is ultimately a developer choice to be that much generous, but the point is that they may afford to make to that choice, and sometimes they make that choice just to make their gacha system slightly more appealing than others.
@-Seaheart-
9 күн бұрын
Still BS. Ofc development costs play a role but ultimately what sets the ceiling for predatory practices is not cost but perception of value, FGO is a cheap game but the developers can afford to go turbo predatory because they know people will value the IP and the story telling enough to pay an unreasonable amount for it. Mihoyo’s own ZZZ has a development cost closer to PGR or AG than to GI and HSR and yet they use basically the same system as their more expensive open world games while PGR and AG can be cited as examples of “generous” gachas. Companies will charge as much as they can get away with before diminishing returns. For gachas it is much more advantageous to capitalize on a small fraction of players who are willing to spend an inordinate amount if you exploit them than to try to get the majority to pay fair prices, that’s all there is to it, manipulation is simply extremely lucrative if you have the leverage to exert it even when people are aware of what you are doing. That’s the defining point how much leverage can a company have to do so, production value is one of the ways to achieve it.
@indomitable2566
9 күн бұрын
@@-Seaheart- Like I said it’s still a choice for the devs to make, but a choice that can be afforded. They can be generous and choose not to. So I didn’t rule out those cases. Also, I disagree that ZZZ costs as much money as PGR to make. PGR is (for the most part) a 2D visual novel with a cutscene included in each story chapter more or less at least in global while ZZZ has hub roaming, 3D cutscene, 2D cutscenes, dialogues scenes that use the 3D models and manga panel styles. All of that is more expensive to do than PGR, and it’s a higher production value compared to the older PGR. Not to mention they market way more than PGR does on global (which isn’t development but still a cost incurred in the project). PGR marketing is concentrated in China mostly.
@novyknec1113
9 күн бұрын
50/50 isnt terrible as a system, but the way hoyoverse does it makes it look bad however people are being a little bit cocky when it comes in terms of these new games. Hoyoverse has a very fair system, however the little amount of pulls and the time you need to spend in order to get them made them feel like slaves trying to get pulls, people think that if the spark was 100 pulls would be benefitial for the company and the players, but it wont since the easier you get the things, the easier you drop the game decreasing the activer users and potential spenders especially dumb weebs like gacha players and the game will lose money,what was the point of making a gacha live service game then if you arent making money out of it? 50/50 with guaranteed pity carrying over banners is a really fair mechanic for a gacha game, which its based on RNG, its fair because you can know when to stop gambling since there is a mark, if anything it has been proven that people prefer this over whatever tf happened before with no pity, really expensive spark and no pity carrying over, (some games even changed that for a less painful system, like FGO with its recent spark system) or are you telling me that you would prefer spending over 1000$ without getting a single 5* character or the desired character just like what some FGO horror stories tell? I know Im using that argument you mentioned of prefering being punched or stabbed, but gacha games have a low bar for EVERYTHING, there isnt a single gacha system that only benefits the player because the devs behind those games want also money from dumb weebs which is why they carefully give you "good enough" pulls per patch so you are forced to spend. Because after all you are playing these high quality games for FREE and Its funny how people forget that and complain about the systems that grab their money to make other high quality games or improve their own, but Gacha players are so braindead that they prefer to support coomer easy bait companies that make mediocre products, and also there is FGO, can you even justify how much money that game gets from its few players? That game is the lowest quality gacha anime game right now, and yet people spend a lot on those pngs, do gacha players really care about FAIR SYSTEMS or HIGH QUALITY GAMES? And its not just FGO, there is also Puzzle and dragons, the low quality DBZ and One piece games, Summoner wars and a big etc that still til this day make a bank from the consumers. To all of this I ask, Isnt it fair to take advantage of that dumb behaviour with a fair, balanced RNG system like the 50/50?
@diazpramudita5165
9 күн бұрын
Totally agree. But I also kind of can feel the other spectrum of the player. Some people are a lot more impulsive and very vulnerable to FOMO, and they ended up can't save shit for their fav character. I kinda see it as we shouldn't let them be the way they are, we gotta educate them to control their impulse and made them immune to FOMO. Already doing it in my HI 3rd armada where some member are inexperienced gacha player and very susceptible to FOMO, to not let the dev steer their mind.
@Kspice9000
7 күн бұрын
Bad take since if it was 100 pulls people could actually justifying spending the cash. Especially if it was actually 100 bucks = 100 pulls. This would actually make chasing eidolon or constellations reasonable. You've under thought and down played what would realistically happen.
@robertmelconde8151
9 күн бұрын
i play girls frontline, azur lane and arknights and some gacha games temporary for years and yeah i understand genshin gacha cycle. In the end you must have a high patience to play this gacha games
@doctjoe
9 күн бұрын
Me when Honkai Impact guarantees the banner character every 90 pulls and carries over between banners 🍷
@kaihimura3897
9 күн бұрын
Can't forget the character specific weapons and stigmata.
@cartoonvideos5
9 күн бұрын
Me when HI3 is incredibly P2W, it makes it so that the character needs to get the weapon and artifacts from gacha 😂 characters are missing their kits without weapons. Every single boss is just tailored to the newest characters, so you will pull, so more P2W. Let's not forget about the ridiculous prices for gems and pulls. Cope, there's a reason HI3 never gets any new players and is on the decline. You can only be held afloat by Sunk Cost Fallacy Whales for so long.
@GolgothianSylex
9 күн бұрын
@@cartoonvideos5 if I play it full f2p in Red Lotus on full f2p, does it make me a mage? P2W complaints are real(because it is gacha), but they are very overblown. Stigmatas are actually better than relics - you know what you get, and all artifact system in newer Hoyo games are infinite random number generators which are much more offensive to the player than 50/50. Sunk cost fallacy is also a buzzword, most people play any game because they feel like it. Even in FGO case most people like the story and characters and keep playing because of that.
@doctjoe
9 күн бұрын
@@cartoonvideos5 Relax, it was a joke. I’m not affirmation-starved like you probably are
@cartoonvideos5
9 күн бұрын
@@GolgothianSylex Ah the usual HI3 fanboy cope. Sorry, we all know you are playing from Sunk Cost Fallacy. Lemme guess, you have been playing since launch. Sunk. Cost. Fallacy.
@AndrezeSellers
9 күн бұрын
And this is where the gambling addiction is born the pain of our existence that we let it earn millions without knowing how shity the devs were going to treat their players I guess players didn't have nothing to do and also he's right the garbage systems need to improve and and get better I like these examples you use
@vantagehgc3499
7 күн бұрын
dokkans latest pity system is amongst the worst. they made obtaining units harder by putting 10 instead of 8 on the banner to drop your chances, then made the pity require 200 pulls. that can't be carried over to the next banner, so you either do 200 pulls on that banner, or you lose. and it's 50 bucks for 20 summons... (via sales)
@ahrisse6528
8 күн бұрын
This is why even if Tower of Fantasy is not as loved as other gachas, I still prefer its gacha system. For sure it didn't have 50/50 system but to compensate, your pity will not reset even if you get an early SSR and you can buy the character after pulling for enough if ever you lose without going to another hard pity. You can also buy dupes and if you're f2p, you just gotta wait for the character to be in standard banner, then buy their dupes there with the rebates you had for pulling with gold and black nuc 😅.
@phuhuhuhu8090
9 күн бұрын
Or Devs can make gacha so free, that even if you actually want to spend money on the game, you just have no reason to, like limbus.
@beestek.94
9 күн бұрын
Also, the bad thing about Genshin is that the roster for Standard banner is so few that losing the 50/50 really feels so bad. With all the 5* characters they released, I just find it hard to believe that old units that are not used much anymore were not added to the standard banner. I'm talking about Albedo, Eula, Venti... Like, those characters should have been added to the Standard banner
@MoonFallMars
9 күн бұрын
I would recomend you play Limbus company and see the gacha syystema of the game
@Pedroportxd
9 күн бұрын
PLAY LIMBUS COMPANY
@Rodri34451
9 күн бұрын
limbussy
@vyrka9818
9 күн бұрын
I know the nobunaga lore of jenazad😂😂😂 What a hilarious story every time he narrates😂
@Sazandora635
9 күн бұрын
Genshin's devs claimed they would eventually be adding more characters to the standard pool, so if that means previously limited characters are going standard (Rather then them creating more new characters who seem weaker by design like Dehya and shoving them on there) that would address one of my biggest gripes.
@ROMVS
9 күн бұрын
Felt and ran like a real TV show
@rexammus
9 күн бұрын
I like that I picked up the jenazad lore, saved up all your currency to pull oda nobunaga just to end up not pulling her and finally quit the game.
@anicealien
9 күн бұрын
The way I see it, just save your currency. It's not as if power-creep is a huge issue in Genshin, and the characters will always come back for a rerun. But i'm someone who's had three years to get plenty of characters, so I'm able to sit back for a few months at a time and save without feeling a lot of fomo. Currently, I have 800 wishes saved up, and am hoping to get to 1000 before a character comes that i want. I feel like my mindset is incredibly different from a lot of people because i realized how easy it was to save. Update: Not gonna get to 1000 wishes this year, Chasca's coming!!
@diazpramudita5165
9 күн бұрын
😂 Yeah me too. I played several gacha games before Genshin. HI 3rd, Brave Frontier & PangYa Mobile are 3 titles which I played for a long term back then. The problem with those titles is they can't protect the "value" of character they sell by doing significant powercreep and some kind of PvP system with premium currency reward alongside.. That experience makes me value Genshin's system a lot more and rather spend in Genshin than those titles. Even when I started playing Genshin in 1.2, it's very good environment to save up primogems. The 50-50 also made the gacha system more interesting, rather than the HI 3rd system for example. Getting 5* in games like that isn't that exciting because it's too easy, as well as knowing their usage will be very limited depending on the weather/boss/enemies, they're not as free/flexible as Genshin. I am expecting HSR & ZZZ to follow suit, but I'm skeptical they can pull it off again as good as what they did in Genshin.
@MefoWho
9 күн бұрын
@@diazpramudita5165 bf moment, 7 characters in a batch
@anthony-simetri
9 күн бұрын
As a fellow gacha player, it's good to hear you still haven't given up on your gacha addiction. lmao
@ducphammanh3746
9 күн бұрын
Their gacha system was better tbf, in HI3 part 1 at least. Only 1 rate up chara per banner at 100 pulls and soft pity at 85-90 (never saw anyone with single digit pity tho). The gear banner sucks but the offrates are actually usable to being rlly good.
@cartoonvideos5
9 күн бұрын
Doesn't matter because 99% of HI3 content is P2W show
@pontoancora
9 күн бұрын
It costed the double. Just use math
@ducphammanh3746
9 күн бұрын
@@pontoancora old is 300, new is 150 for pity. But you wont hit that.
@pontoancora
9 күн бұрын
@@ducphammanh3746 nobody hit pity in genshin as well.
@ducphammanh3746
9 күн бұрын
@@pontoancora And no 50/50
@nguyenquanghung2344
9 күн бұрын
1:08 Arturia actually a pretty okay servant
@mediumsurmoon6283
9 күн бұрын
Even goddamn games like Mobile Legends and PUBGM that literally have nothing to do with gacha, have a 50/50 gacha system in them 🤦🏻♂️ but Mobile Legend is straight up predatory in a every way, there’s a literal lottery in it that you put down your numbers and what not. And the “lucky” box are scam because they are not based of luck whatsoever instead they are predetermined on how many pulls are needed.
@muhammadaffry2123
9 күн бұрын
Imagine MiHoYo made gacha game without 50/50 but using like 90 pull guaranteed instead...
@rilldo2570
9 күн бұрын
There is, it is called Honkai Impact 3rd
@pontoancora
9 күн бұрын
@@rilldo2570but the pull cost the double and the pity is 100. Soo... not a good trade.
@blame7121
9 күн бұрын
Imagine if gacha companies cared for the consumer. I'm playing Wuthering Waves and I'm sick and tired of people praising the devs for how "generous" and "caring" they are, oh the benevolent Kuro Games are. But it's still just a greedy gacha company with all the aggressively predatory tactics that gacha games are known for; FOMO, a million different currencies to disorient your sense of value, battle pass, booster pack, daily stamina system, 50/50 pull for limited characters, an endless RNG grind... There is nothing generous about a gacha game.
@rilldo2570
9 күн бұрын
@@pontoancora Since part 2 launch, the pity has been lowered to 90, equipment banner was also redesigned. Double costs? With 90 pity, you need 25200 crystals to guarantee, as f2p you can amass around ~20k every version
@pontoancora
9 күн бұрын
@@rilldo2570 well i dont play since the end of part 1, but i remember hi3rd shop costing twice and the pulls were 280 instead of 160. And we need to get stigmatas by gacha as well. As i said, not a good trade.
@WolfangFlyingpig
9 күн бұрын
i showed it to my cats
@Jenazadp
9 күн бұрын
I hope they liked it
@Sadger-gy1vk
9 күн бұрын
Amazing video as always king
@Merotryz
9 күн бұрын
Both FGO and the ones that follow Genshin system do something very wrong. That almost every character they release are limited . Getting the wrong SSR doesn't feel AS bad in some other games because at least they are characters released a few months ago instead of being the year 1 standard character with barely any update. At least after many anniversaries, wouldn't hurt anybody to put the very first limited your released, those who the devs feel their kit is getting outdated, in the standard banner. Just a feeling.
@germanromero4137
9 күн бұрын
Blue Archive has the same system of the Nikke banners you need 200 if you are unlucky, but less reward in game and doesn’t carry within banners, but you need only one copy and the pulls give you the currency to unlock the especial weapon, also sometimes they give you 100 pulls before or after an importan metadefining character so you can try to get those character an also the special banner of the limited is 6% on anniversarys for all the 3 star character in the standar banner, last time i got a 3 stars every 10 pull, for me is a better system than Nikke because you would still need copys of the character to have a decent performance in later stages, if you are unlucky on a limited character then you would have to wait for the weird rerun schedule of nikke
@cartoonvideos5
9 күн бұрын
BA gacha system is garbage and that game has P2W raids and challenges. Nexon also manipulates gacha rates. Nikke is much better with being able to carry over gold mileage through. Yea no, everyone knows BA players play that because it's the only game that caters to peed0s, including you. Seems a meeting with Chris Hansen is in order.
@daviduba5060
9 күн бұрын
In Nikke you don't need multiple copies of a nikke what are you on?? Also there's like a solid 10 limited characters out of 130 total so idk how nikke is much worse bruh. For Blue Archive I heard that they're more stingy with giving away rolls, but they reveal their characters' release schedule ahead of time so there's that But I wouldn't consider it "better"
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9 күн бұрын
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@BrandiPrime
9 күн бұрын
Ah, another person who dropped FGO after saving up over a year for Avenger Nobu and rage quitting. You, however, are way smarter than me, as I, fool that I am, kept playing and saving after the first banner only to roll again during her rerun. And still not get her.
@Red_Throat_Bird
9 күн бұрын
When I discover the gacha system I run away like crazy, if genshin has not bring the 50/50 pity system I had never touch gacha, its just insane without that. I dont know why ppl are made about this like if it was the wort system because before it was. And yes a agree 50/50 feel so bad and yes in a sense when you want to spend, its more predatory but it allow more "f2pness" or less spending and in the same time get some interesting things, its way better than no pity. The average amount of pull for a rate up 5* is around 90 and 120. With the "new" 55/45 pity system, math guys said that the average is 90 pulls, hard to believe but we will see. The only good alternative we have are in kuro games. PGR debut banner are 100% guaranty at 60 pull and the game give you anought for free to guaranty the first copy and with wuthering waves the weapons banners system are not a scam anymore. Aside of that the 50/50 is the better system for now because rng is lower than others. But yes the big problem is that it came with a new succeful gacha formula that standardized the genre and encourage the stagnation of the system. I was one of those that was thinking genshin will mark the beginning of gacha being a real game but ... they has just turn 3d, the experience are still not at the level of a true game. They got really good music and cut scene ... and ? Ok but its a game at first, so the experience of gaming is a priority and the gacha system ruin everything. So disappointing because the genre is became one of the market's leaders. A-rpg lovers (me) crie now.
@Gaywerewolf6969
9 күн бұрын
And that is why i play limbus company. It doesn't make you feel bad for missing out a character during their banner, because you can get them for free in the extraction for 400 shards (if its a 000 id) and you can easily grind them if you have access to mirror dungeon on hard difficulty.
@k_aesar
7 күн бұрын
I'll form an opinion on this after I lose or win the 50/50 for Burnice
@confexion
9 күн бұрын
I would have quit Wuwa if I lost to lingyang as my first SSR 😅
@nadaburner
9 күн бұрын
I like all gacha complaints and criticisms. I don't like how they've become so big in the gaming market. I'd prefer if they fell to obscurity or treated their players well. The systems in place are practically gambling and FOMO practices are immoral. Pity systems encourage players to continue rolling and many games also try to form parasocial relations which may cause certain people to be more invested in the gacha or grinding aspects of a game. Skins in gacha games is more recent and I don't like them either because they are overpriced; one game I looked at valued their skins at $15 so 4 skins is the same price as a full-priced game which is insane.
@nightmarefuel2357
9 күн бұрын
I was NOT told to come here at gun point.
@AutoKing39
9 күн бұрын
ME AND THE HOMIES HATE 50/50!
@wizard4599
9 күн бұрын
Nice headphones. You don't often see Sundaras out and about, usually everyone is using Beyers hehe
@Jenazadp
9 күн бұрын
These things were so worth it
@wizard4599
9 күн бұрын
@@Jenazadp I recommend getting a pair of Closed back Sundaras too. Same amazing drivers and sound quality but with the punchier closed back sound. They also don't feel as isolating as other closed back headphones I've had before
@XZeroCloud
9 күн бұрын
The pandemic and them refund checks enabled Hoyo like hell
@B0b-k3r
9 күн бұрын
I see the pity as 180 which is alot better than the standard 300 for sparking like in gbf and madoka and fgo. The 50 50 is just if you get lucky
@Cooowop
9 күн бұрын
Good job jenazard and editor kun
@Morganaplays
18 сағат бұрын
10:07 ww is also 0.8 percent and soft pity is at 66
@coralreef6298
9 күн бұрын
There are 2 types of people, the ones who win almost all their 50/50s or all of them and pull the rate up characters at low pity and then there's the ones that almost always lose them and have to go to hard pity every single time, the first tend to see these games as very generous and good, the latter tends to just end up resenting the games and dropping them after some time because it's just completely unsustainable. Personally, I hate 50/50s, I also don't understand the gambling addicts mindset, I have the opposite problem, the gambling averse mindset, I dread pulling for characters I want when I can't guarantee them, I feel zero adrenaline from the thought of potentially getting the character because most of the time, I just don't and lose. Playing Arknights after coming from games like Genshin and HSR was a huge eye opener to what generosity and reward feels like, in just a year of playing, I've gotten almost all characters I wanted, including old ones from Kernel.
@kaihimura3897
9 күн бұрын
Awesome video. I'm glad you also called out on the lunacy that is most people who dunk on F/GO possess. Based King Hassan Enjoyer. I wish I could made videos like this, but I feel like I am a bit too dumb to put something together that is watchable/listenable. Hard agree though, Gacha may have gotten "better", but it is still terrible. I love Snowbreak, I've been playing since almost Day One. AmazingSeaSun games really have been putting in the work to make their game the best they can. It went from near death to changing the meta of fan service in the mobile game industry.
@extra1565
9 күн бұрын
People too focused on Genshin, it's sin was becoming too popular, anyone who played gacha games before it knew it was a predatory system
@blame7121
9 күн бұрын
That doesn't change the point that was being made.
@extra1565
9 күн бұрын
@@blame7121 No it doesn't, but as I see it and for my experience it's gacha system is not the best or the worst, however you always see people saying that Genshin ruined the industry but you can't destroy something that was already destroyed
@blame7121
9 күн бұрын
@@extra1565 I haven't seen anyone saying that
@Re_V
5 күн бұрын
@@blame7121 there was no point to be made. genshin's pity system is infinitely better by default compared to anything that doesn't have it. this video is disingenuous and most of the alternatives offered were straight up garbage except for the few that are actually better, for example WuWa.
@MeguLook212
6 сағат бұрын
I believe the 50/50 system should not exist and should never be implemented in any games.
@Lybrel
9 күн бұрын
Making us wait 10 minutes before mentioning the UI is almost as predatory as the 50/50 system
@Jenazadp
9 күн бұрын
UIGUY
@perdanaeka4892
9 күн бұрын
i want to note that gacha games is lean into idol cult-ure rather than game itself, the reason why FGO rack billions of income while having the most boring gameplay is this reason alone, most people play FGO for its character or its story
@Takodachi257
9 күн бұрын
Just came here to say, Lovely Furina in the cover.
@Jenazadp
9 күн бұрын
She really is
@beestek.94
9 күн бұрын
Nice. Furina enjoyer 💯
@demonking-zm3rs
7 күн бұрын
So where just going to ignore how Powercreep and Accessibility play into the Banner System Doesn't if you Guarantee me an SSR unit if there Viability is lost 2 patches from now You can Guarantee a Weapon but you have no access to a F2p option Its a balance and nuance to this Snow Break has 90 Guarantee cool...play Snow Break
@nguyenquanghung2344
9 күн бұрын
9:48 I feel i got 2-3 strong servants each year in FGO, that game's not provoke me to pull like GI and they give alot of pull in a year, so 50/50 in GI dont feel like gacha to me, in pull 90 its like guarranty a 5 stars, its can be done with saving and calculation, but having a servant in FGO is a real feel of lucky, got addict to their gacha system because of that.
@ladrugo
9 күн бұрын
Changing a system that made billions is a bent needle to swallow
@mystyllean
9 күн бұрын
im just here to read comments - also nice vid jena
@gimmeklik1632
9 күн бұрын
i love fate grand order
@Cooowop
9 күн бұрын
9:15 this is what smart humans do Awkward which seems to be less and less by the fking second.
@XenogearsPS
9 күн бұрын
Spent money on hsr. It was worth it until it wasn’t lol. Too much money, 1k spent. Playing zzz, this time Im very picky, got jane as my first character. Burnice, yanagi, and miyabi next. Skipping idol group and lighter. Hsr was a good experience though, building characters is another headache. I had topaz unbuilt and she reran twice 😂. I have so many unbuilt characters.
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