There is something just so great feeling about Cadensia absolutely dwarfing the rest of the game. It really exemplifies the sheer scale, like pond in an ocean or a hill next to a mountain. Bonus points for giving me nostalgia for Wind Waker!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Cadensia really has major Wind Waker vibes! It's by far my favorite region of the game :)
@collin6526
Жыл бұрын
Shouldn't you disregard the ocean because the speed of travel changes a lot. You aren't intended to play on the ocean normally. I would just count the land area.
@HeroC14
Жыл бұрын
@@collin6526 There's land under the ocean that you can't stand on.
@brotbrotsen1100
Жыл бұрын
That part of the world reminded me of crono cross.
@braydenleaderofthetirkins1143
Жыл бұрын
@@Sunowaddle The most beautiful as well.
@The_OPN
Жыл бұрын
If you could, I'd love to see a size comparison between the explorable area of Aionios and the non-ocean explorable area on Mira in Xenoblade X
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Really wanna do a follow up video on the other Xenoblade games in the near future, I just have to play X first :)
@bluegloom666
Жыл бұрын
@@Sunowaddle lmao if you think this is big, just wait til you play X! X was my favorite though
@ironpro7217
Жыл бұрын
mira is about 40-60km^2
@screamingjello9710
Жыл бұрын
Wow, I just saw this vid in my recommended and I’m really impressed with the editing! Keep it up!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm really glad you liked it! :)
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
I really hope you liked the video! If anybody else have done similar estimations I'd love to compare sizes-- I MEAN hear what numbers you got! Also for anyone wondering, I posted more spesific numbers in the description of the video :)
@brayoungful
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your analysis of the actual explorable area, but I think you also missed the linear size. By that I mean, 3.16 x 3.16 km and a 10 x 1 km worlds both have a 10 km^2 area to explore, but the 10 x 1 km world will *feel* 3x larger because you have to walk 3x the distance to get across it. For that reason, I think you should be showing not just area in km^2, but also some measure of the distance required to traverse each area from entrance to exit.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Very good point, I didn't think of that! Should defiently have included that around the implied size section, so thanks for pointing it out :)
@linkalot7415
Жыл бұрын
Bloody hell mate your editing is incredible and this video is amazing too!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :) I have been editing for a couple of years so have definitely picked some tricks along the way!
@kellyh7202
Жыл бұрын
This is so cool! I hope your channel takes off in a big way, you deserve it! I would love to see this with the other Xenoblade games too
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! :) Yeah defiently want to get it done with the first two games eventually, I think it would be very interesting to compare them!
@Sakisaka_Rei
Жыл бұрын
I do wonder about the real size of Aionios. As it takes 2 months in the story to go around to the other side of the world map.
@Biovirulent
Жыл бұрын
Considering bionis and mechonis were canonically the size of Japan, I assume it's probably about 2-3x japan
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that would be pretty interesting to find out! There was actually someone on reddit who did an estimation of it and I think they got around (600k-1 million)km^2, using a methodology based on how long they take to reach areas :)
@itsgeo752
Жыл бұрын
@@Biovirulent not to mention that we don’t even see some locations such as the other bionis leg, we only see the areas that we have to travel through, in reality it is actually far larger despite the fact that it’s already huge
@theonesithtorulethemall
Жыл бұрын
Yeah ive been wondering about that, in taions quest, you get news from colony gama that thr lost colony is under attack, and you shuld help, but acording to lore it wuld take you 2 months jsut to get there... Soo, 1. Why does colony gama have Spies Set um in cadensia??? 2. Why isnt the lost colony in urayas tail??
@cyrrus_lite2796
Жыл бұрын
It now makes sense why the cadensia region was so hard to chart completely. ITS MASSIVE.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Haha yeah, I'm part of the filling Cadensia manually gang too, and I easily spent hours on it xD
@cyrrus_lite2796
Жыл бұрын
@@Sunowaddle Good luck dude, I easily spent around 25-30 hours filling it in. Even with chunking.
@eternalsonja
Жыл бұрын
It auto fills after you find all the areas. Colony Mu, Respite Ranch is probably one of the last areas within it.
@ryanneese3532
Жыл бұрын
I thought this was a real cool video, size in game worlds has always fascinated me and it can be cool to see it be put to numbers! I would love to see your calculations for the other Xenoblade Games, like how 3 compares to X for example.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yeah defiently want to get it done with the other Xenoblade games too, only problem is that I have yet to play XCX, so need to get that done first :)
@MrTheDank
Жыл бұрын
0:07-0:17 Instant subscriber. Lovely editing!
@MrTheDank
Жыл бұрын
1:59 lmfao
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :) The funny thing is i just get really lucky with my editing sometimes, so for example the part where it looks like Mio's is playing that Alfeo valley flute part was just a lucky coicidence and not planned at all haha
@sparshkapar5254
Жыл бұрын
This was such a cool vid! I'd love to see a comparison between XC1 and XC2's maps :)))
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yeah I'd love to do that in the future, seems like the interest is there too which is awesome!
@joshuasouthwick6808
Жыл бұрын
Wow! I didn't know I needed this video in my life. This was definitely my game of the year, and now I know I was not crazy in thinking this game was huge! I would love to see it compared to the other two!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :) Yeah same, XC3 is amazing, and planning to do the other two games in the future!
@seb3082
Жыл бұрын
Wow, awesome video! I’m willing to bet that the world of Mira in Xenoblade X is larger though, it’s absolutely huge and there are like no boundaries in that game so the explorable area is just insanely huge.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yeah I have basically no doubt about Mira being much larger, but XC3 still takes the win when talking about the trilogy :)
@seb3082
Жыл бұрын
@@Sunowaddle fair point yeah I definitely agree, I honestly feel that XC2 might be the smallest even though it felt like a huge game too since XC1 had many big areas like the bionis shoulder, bionis leg, valak mountain, eryth sea and plenty other areas I feel like XC3 and XC1 might be really close when it comes to the total map size.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
@@seb3082 What makes up most of XC1/XC3's maps are Eryth/Erythia sea since they both have such huge bodies of water, but XC2 doesn't have an equivalent to that which means it's definetily the smallest of the bunch
@btpdotquest
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video and editing. You have a great niche of calculations and gaming. I'm curious if the apparent travel speed changes in different areas, similar to how assassins creed changes the climbing speed for really tall buildings to avoid a feeling of slowdown while traversing long distances.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
I tried measuring the speed in both the city and Aetia full, so I'm pretty sure the speed is constant no matter which area you are in :) And thank you!!
@LBCAndrew
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the hard work. I'm glad you did this the proper way instead of the lazy way.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
No worries! Yeah when I first decided to do it I didn't want to do it half assed, so I spent a lot of time researching and expirmenting to find the best possible method to use :)
@hayouwish
Жыл бұрын
this was a really interesting video! i’ve always wondered how big aionios would be in comparison to real life and stuff, so this was cool
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :) Yeah same, so I was kind of surprised that nobody had tried before exept for a few Cadensia measurments, hence me wanting to make this video :)
@JTpiano24
Жыл бұрын
been wanting to know the map size for a long time and see how it compared to BOTW! great work, hope you can do the other xenoblade games too!!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Yes I'm actually making that follow up video right now :)
@willeiland5699
Жыл бұрын
There is definitely interest in the other sizes of the Xenoblade games. 100%. My interest is being shown here
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :) I'm planning to do that in the near future!
@alexaberg01
Жыл бұрын
Great job! Reminder to post this vid on the Xenoblade reddit if you haven't already.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yep have done that but I really appriciate the reminder non the less :)
@darrenthedc
Жыл бұрын
Great vid dude! Appreciated it greatly!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I really appriciate it!
@danielgrezda3339
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!! I wanted to know this even before the game launched, and I'm impressed how thoroughly you measured the map. I'm also impressed at the size, it's as big as Elden ring. You earned my sub!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
No worries haha, was really wondering about it myself! Thank you!! :)
@BaugipGames
Жыл бұрын
Great vid! Would love to see analyses of all the games in the series if possible (xeno 2 I'd be most excited for). Awesome job with the video
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yeah I really want to get to the other Xenoblade games eventually! :)
@niffsuryoutube
Жыл бұрын
Amazing work on video's editing !
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :)
@VinnyGPlays
Жыл бұрын
This was a well put together video with a bunch of fascinating info! Keep up the good work mate! (also calculating the other xenoblade games would be icing on the cake for me, I'd love to see it!) edit: silly typos
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch! Yep working on a video of the other games right now, so that will hopefully come out later this year/early 2023 :)
@GCLU
Жыл бұрын
Thanks algorithm. Very interesting video.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! :)
@theozziepotato
9 ай бұрын
ive just recently finished xenoblade chronicles 3, and cadensia is by far my favourite region. it would be awesome if the next xeno game is at sea.
@Sunowaddle
9 ай бұрын
Cadenia is amazing!!!
@The_MEMEphis
Жыл бұрын
This video was perfect me and my buddy were just talking about the game of the year nominees and we're comparing Xenoblade to elden ring
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Haha awesome! Both games are really good but Xenoblade will always have a special place in my heart :)
@HiKrispy
Жыл бұрын
This is super well made you deserve more attention dude, keep up the amazing work!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, that's super awesome to hear!! :)
@MadrigalNeXus
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do a measurement of 1 and 2's maps. kind of reminds me of this past summer when I Zombie Jumped about 100K meters off the ground in Torna. was a wild experience
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Yep I'm making a video about those games right now!
@capnfluff2428
Жыл бұрын
im glad the skyrim guards finally got around to playing xenoblade
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
sure hope they do
@Super_Spectral
Жыл бұрын
I really needed to hear that line again. Flora truly heals an aching soul.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Dromarch is the real MVP
@phoenix9531
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Video
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :)
@shadowmario111
Жыл бұрын
Nice analysis, ya dag!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :)
@aTypicalGabriel
Жыл бұрын
BANGER video
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :)
@patroka
Жыл бұрын
Wow, very nice! So, the explorable area of Cadensia alone is larger than the explorable area of Elden Ring, by these calculation methods? Wow, lol. I’d also be interested in seeing what the results are if you exclude the ocean areas of Cadensia, if that isn’t too hard.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! :) Yep that's true haha. Cadensia is around 89% water, so that would mean just the landmass is about 3.4km^2
@tommysuter4053
Жыл бұрын
Mapping Cadensia as soon as it was unlocked was a pain so knowing it is a huge chunk of the map does not surprise me.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Yeah mapping Cadensia manually was pain haha
@realnintendonoah
Жыл бұрын
I can really tell you like masking lol, you pulled every instance off flawlessly! Great video
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :) Yeah haha I used quite a lot of masks for this one, I actually did the Mio one manually by keyframe animating a mask which took a couple hours before I noticed that After Affects actually have a pretty good rotoscoping tool which basically does the whole job for you xD All in all I'm pretty satisfied with how they turned out in motion, altough you can see a bit of jitter around the upper right of the A in Massive, and a bit on Mio's finger but it's hard to notice luckily! :)
@andrewpeterson5016
Жыл бұрын
Dang the presentation in this video was way higher quality than I was expecting for the amount of subs you have. Really nice vid!!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, that's really awesome to hear! :)
@dragonmaster1500
Жыл бұрын
Great analysis! 40.62 km^2 eh? man, this reminds me of the old map size analysis from back when Xenoblade Chronicles X came out. That map was, just a second to look it up... ~248 km^2 (154 mi^2) apparently. Yikes, Monolithsoft really likes making games with ginormous maps don't they?
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :) Yeah Monolith are wizards when it comes to open worlds, especially optimizations for them!
@silvershield9217
Жыл бұрын
Just saw you in my recommendations, great video! I find your way of measurement very good, and the editing was very good as well, looking forward for future videos.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Spent a lot of time thinking about how the best way to measure was, but I think I'm quite happy with the method I landed on :)
@mistressminerva3382
Жыл бұрын
Good Video , Great Job ! i would be interested in knowing how XC3s explorable parts measure up to XCX explorable parts.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :) Great question, I've never played X so it's hard for me to tell right now, but I'd love to find it out after playing it!
@Evanz111
Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of my disappointment with Dakar Desert Rally where they claimed it was the largest open world racing game ever made (exceeding even FUEL) - except it was all zoned areas like Xenoblade and still in total doesn’t manage to make it feel anywhere near as large…
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Haha yeah, I don't personally mind segmented open worlds but when they claim a spesific size it can be a bit dissapointing, I see that.
@TheBandoBandito
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you tackle the the other two Xenoblade games.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Making a follow up video on that right now :)
@TheBandoBandito
Жыл бұрын
@@Sunowaddle looking forward to it. Subscribed.
@byrontheusurper6505
Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable game
@rgdarsi9336
Жыл бұрын
Amazing vid I hope you make some of the same for the other games
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes that is the plan, defiently want to make more similar videos in the future :)
@GenericGMR
Жыл бұрын
great video! phenomenal editing, and gets to the point quickly without droning on. Looking forward to your future videos!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I really appriciate it!! :)
@silverrex9539
Жыл бұрын
This video better blow up in the algorithm
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Haha thanks, it has already blown my expectations away at least! :)
@Sturben-qn7ph
Жыл бұрын
great video!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :)
@NoahRogers19980618
Жыл бұрын
Thanks KZitem Reccomendations-
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
I gotta thank youtube recommendations too for recommending my silly little vidoes haha
@dalayzie1360
Жыл бұрын
Nice job! Tackle Chronicles X as well one day… (Still hoping for a X port or X2 lol)
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :) Yeah I want to do a video on the other Xenoblade games sometime in the near future, so a X port would be very nice right about now Nintendo wink wink
@Gukanzu
Жыл бұрын
Whooooo amazing reseach! Tora would be proud of you :D
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
If Tora is proud then this video was a huge success! :D
@mustacheman529
Жыл бұрын
This sounds like an interesting series. I'll subscribe. It would be interesting to see the size of 1 and 2 as well.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! :) Yes I am currently working on a follow up video covering the other games :)
@Super_Spectral
Жыл бұрын
Loved the video, that’s a sub from me. I really wanted to know how big Aionios was, so tysm for showing us
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :) Have been wondering about that myself for quite some time to glad I got it done, and it's really awesome to see interest around it! :)
@kass1089
Жыл бұрын
Love the editing. Had to chuckle a few times. And yes a comparison to the other two entries would be very interesting.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :) Yeah I think it could be very interesting to see if Monoliths 5x estimations are close, but I actually found someone who had calculated XC1's size on an old message board, and I they concluded with it being around 15km^2 if I recall correctly
@Terranigma23
Жыл бұрын
Omg it was so interesting. A lot of work was put in this video. It would be nice to have some comparaison with the map of Xenoblade 1&2. 😁
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :) Yes will defiently have to do a video on XC/XC2 sometime!
@Sabuuchi
Жыл бұрын
Pokemon Ruby & Sapphire have nothing on the amount of water Cadensia holds.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
IGN's original score of XC3 was actually a 10, but they were obligated to lower it by 2.8 because of the amount of water in Cadensia
@byrontheusurper6505
Жыл бұрын
Haven't heard geogebra mentioned since middle school!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
it's actually a pretty useful tool whenever it decides to actually work :)
@dirtydirtsgt4751
Жыл бұрын
I thought this was a big channel at first lol Great video, take my sub!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :D Maybe one day :)
@rhettmitchell
Жыл бұрын
Banger video 🤌🏼🔥 I would totally love to see how big the other games are in comparison
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :) Yeah really want to get that done in the future!
@taufiqm_tube
Жыл бұрын
good job! subscribed, whew now my con-science is clean
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
The girl with the gall would be proud ;)
@Diapolo10
Жыл бұрын
XC3 is a big game, but at 40 km^2 it's _dwarfed_ by XCX, at roughly _400 km^2_. Granted, a lot of that is because every bit of the map is actually explorable with skells and a lot of it is ocean, but it's still the biggest map I'm aware of aside from procedurally generated ones.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Yep Xenoblade Chronicles X is still a super impressive feat in for open world games, the size is still insane over all these years!
@puppy14
Жыл бұрын
I'm so thankful I decided to import Xenoblade Chronicles from Europe in late 2011. That game reinvigorated my love for video games in general, and now I've poured over 1,000 hours into what's now my favorite JRPG series of all time.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Xenoblade Chronicles is phenomenal, and definitely one of my favorite video game franchises too! It's quite a miracle in itself that this even became a trilogy , operation rainfall really did wonders :)
@senarmstrongfanaccount
Жыл бұрын
great video 👍would love a similar one of xc1 and 2
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :) Yeah really wanna do them too in the future!
@ironpro7217
Жыл бұрын
Excluding the sea mira in X is 40-60km^2 (very big error bars I know), so bigger than 3's actual land area seeing as a huge portion of that 40km^2 is just erythia sea.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Xenoblade X is defiently the biggest by a pretty long shot!
@teamrocfan
Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :)
@jur_esque
Жыл бұрын
I'd be really interested in a comparison between Aionios and Mira since those two are the both biggest worlds in the series by far
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Working on that right now actually! :)
@Leowono
Жыл бұрын
Amazing quality from such a small channel. Hope you grow! Take my sub :3
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I really appriciate it!! :)
@raijuqt
Жыл бұрын
This was a really cool vid, would love to see how it compares to the previous Xenoblade games with your method of measuring! It would also be nice to have a comparison at the end of the video to other games your are comparing to, f.ex. in this one Elden Ring.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Yeah should have brought up some more games at the end, but I don't have exact numbers for Elden Ring yet, but I think it is around 20km^2 compared to XC3's 40.2 (altough alot of that is water, but still traversable water). Really glad you liked the video! :)
@hx615
Жыл бұрын
Good job.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :)
@JustJulyo
Жыл бұрын
I can't believe I haven't seen someone do this video yet....
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Well now they have :)
@JustJulyo
Жыл бұрын
@@Sunowaddle i need more of your content of yours injected into my veins!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
@@JustJulyo Don't know whether I should be scared of flattered, but I'm somewhere inbetween! :D
@ArinJager1
Жыл бұрын
videogame worlds are always smaller than they would be in real life (as real life has a lot of empty, liminal spaces, and the distances between things are usually greater) good effort, though... I remember somebody measured bionis' height back in the day, so, this is like a sequel to that ^^
@ArinJager1
Жыл бұрын
Mio runs faster than usain bolt :D (Xenoblade 1 world = best world... not hating Aionios, it's cool, too... and Alrest also, but bionis is the best)
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :) Yeah open worlds in video games naturally have to be scaled down to avoid getting boring and to keep cost of development down. Haha yeah Felines runs extreamly fast, someone else pointed that out and I'm always surprised when I remember that fact!
@FredrikNaevisdal
Жыл бұрын
Would love to see you compare this to Xenoblade Chronicles X
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I want to eventually do a video comparing 3 to the other Xenoblade games, just need to play X first :)
@FredrikNaevisdal
Жыл бұрын
@@Sunowaddle Cool! If you want to play it on PC, I recommend watching this video on how :D kzitem.info/news/bejne/2Y941IF3eouBmG0&ab_channel=Kohi
@3XHS
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see this done for xenoblade chronicles X, I know I’ve heard people throw around numbers for it but I haven’t seen anyone’s actual method of getting distances.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Yeah been thinking the same, but I just need to play XCX first but I wanna do a video covering the rest of the Xenoblade games in the future :)
@mattbattmatt
Жыл бұрын
This video is amazing, I would have lost motivation at the beginning! Also WOW I thought you'd have a lot more subscribers
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yeah it was defiently quite an undertaking but I feel satisified with the results so it was worth it in the end imo :)
@sarthak-ti
Жыл бұрын
I loved the video! The editing, the music, the math, it was all amazing! I did have a question about your process. Is this final area just the explorable area? If so I was wondering what the total area is of the entire map, not just the explorable bits
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :) The final area is only the sum of explorable areas. I unfortunatly don't have all the map details since geogebra can't track moved image fiiles apperently, so to find out an exact value I'd have to do everthing again, but if I recall correctly, the average explorable percentage was around 25% for the big areas with notable size, which would mean the full size would probably be around 162.48km^2, though that's slightly conjecture :)
@sarthak-ti
Жыл бұрын
@@Sunowaddle no worries about not having it exactly. That’s still really cool to hear! It does kind of put the whole game into perspective when even the smallest US state is about 20 times as big as all of aionios. But I guess a lot of the feeling of this large area comes from the towering titans
@phoenix9531
Жыл бұрын
For me this just highlights what an achievement Xenoblade Chronicles X was. That game technically has 400km2 of playable world. Yes, 3/4 of it are water, but so if the big majority of cadensia and thats being counted here. Even if you only take landmasses, Xenoblade Chronicles X has at least 80-100km2, while Xenoblade Chronicles 3 probably has less than 20km2
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Yes 100%, Xenoblade Chronicles X is still a massively impressive feat in the open world gaming scene, and hopefully it will eventually get a port to the Switch :)
@yoran4067
Жыл бұрын
i know many people already said it but damn your editing is good
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have been editing for around 8 years so it took quite a while to get to this point :)
@shulkres1590
Жыл бұрын
@@Sunowaddle Do you have any other channels?
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
@@shulkres1590 I have had previous channels in the past, yes
@FlameRat_YehLon
Жыл бұрын
I personally would consider the "appropriate" way of measuring the map being something like distance of traveling from end to end divided by character movement speed. One good example is final fantasy 15, which, although has quite a large map, feels rather small most of the time because you got a car. Meanwhile, Skyrim, a game with a map that isn't that much larger than FF15, feels a lot larger because the best you can do is to ride on horses.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
I can see that but how you'd calculate that would be very unspesific and I just wanted to calculate sizes just as they are to avoid complications :)
@FlameRat_YehLon
Жыл бұрын
@@Sunowaddle there are videos about how long to get from one edge of the map of a video game to the other, but yeah, it's kinda pretty unspecific.
@jedgamesguy
Жыл бұрын
Canonically Mio says she can do the 100 metri in 7 seconds, meaning 14-ish metres per second, or almost 50kph. That’s just cutscenes though, and the game uses metres in quest markers. Food for though… but amazing video, thanks for the insight!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Oooh yeah I forgot she said that, which means she's only using around 75% of her top speed when traversing Aionios. Also thank you! :)
@jedgamesguy
Жыл бұрын
@@Sunowaddle I read that an average domestic cat can outrun Usain Bolt, who can do 37kph at his best. Goes to show how well thought out the lore is for Mio to be that fast, as shocking as it may be.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
@@jedgamesguy Oh damn yeah I forgot how insanely fast all felines are, including cats! I wonder if that was an intensional detail, but it feels like it defiently could be
@Axecon1
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to get a comparison to the first two games! Would really like to know if the "5X larger than Alrest" statement is true. The world of XC2 felt massive so I'm not sure about that statement, but after hearing the area figure for the Cadensia region, it's certainly a possibility. Also, what is the proportion of water to land in the Cadensia region?
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Yeah really wanna get to comparing all Xenoblade games eventually! I was thinking about it and I actually think the 5x estimation is pretty spot on, since what makes up the majority of size for XC1/XC3 is Eryth/Erythia sea, since both have very large bodies of water, and since XC2 doesn't have an equivalent to that it's will be a lot smaller. I think Cadensia is around 89% water :)
@GiorgioPremi
Жыл бұрын
I think there's a third measurements that can be taken into account. For almost all regions you take into consideration the "walkable" area, to estimate the net size. That's good, for all areas but Cadensia, IMO. Almost all Cadensia is covered with water, for which you use a fast ship (and different camera scale), so it doesn't actually feel as explorable area. Just like Ziplines are not account. So, it would be nice to estimate the size of Cadensia with and without the sea area.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
The total explorable landmass in cadensia is around 3.4km^2 iirc, and yeah I can totally see that but I was just interested in finding the total size of the explorable areas in this video so I was fine with just lumping the body of water with the calculations, especially since there are stuff to actually do there instead of the nothingness of the cloud sea :)
@Noushauga
Жыл бұрын
Been looking for days for someone to upload the beautiful world of XC3 as I've been quite interested on playing it since twitter has been hyping this game for months now. It is a beautiful world which i really like on a jrpg and its even more impressive that the switch hardware can handle this too (just goes to show the optimization and polishing of monolithsoft) Im really interested on playing it but the other factors that is stopping me is that I might not like the combat (tho it looks similar on FF14 which I might like later on) and I only have a switch lite. I wouldn't be able to play this in full potential on a switch lite 😭 I cant appreciate the beautiful world on a small handheld screen.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
It's defiently worth a try if you are interested, the combat in my opinion is the best jrpg combat system I've played, it's extreamly fun and well made :) I've never tried a lite so can't comment to much on that, but I have played a bunch of XC3 in handheld mode at it was still a very nice experience
@SirStrikeFreedom
Жыл бұрын
2:00 Oh so you brought me here to confuse me with your maths huh
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
'twas my goal all along hehe😎
@ESw0rdsman
Жыл бұрын
I like to think that the fact the clock moves 1 min for every real time second helps show how huge the worlds are, and that we see a condensed version of them
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, basically every huge open world game is smaller than big cities like New York, but they still manage to feel incredible large :) Would be really interesting to find out how large the "real" Aionios would be!
@pokefantrent2065
Жыл бұрын
YIPPEE
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Can't argue with that!
@garumba5
Жыл бұрын
Did you include, like, all 500 m² of Agnus Castle region (lol) as part of the size of Cadensia region? Also, it's a little funny to include the city with Swordmarch after what happened in Chapter 6. Anyways, cool concept!
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes pretty sure I included Agnus Castle into the Cadensia total, just forgot to mention it in the video! Yeah haha, I mostly just did Swordmarch and the City together for pacing sake, since they are pretty small on their own
@MonadoBoyFlameRock
Жыл бұрын
Cadensia Region aka Too Much Water 💧
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Too much water 🤝
@ImStian
Жыл бұрын
geogebra is goated
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's pretty awesome most of the time
@HayatoByakurai
Жыл бұрын
I'll be that guy just for fun: those measurements aren't in meters, but in metri. Time to do everything over again lol
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Well isn't metri just a suffix on every words for measurments?
@levant5378
Жыл бұрын
If you do an outline trace in autocad then you can actually have it calculate area for you.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Ooh yeah I've heard about autocad!
@Evan-mt7bc
Жыл бұрын
I know 1 way to determine size before was "How long to travel". Xenoblade 1 from Colony 9 to Valak, to Agniritha to Prison Island was about 40 minutes. Xenoblade X from the Eastern edge of Oblivia to Noctilum's Divine Roost was 35 minutes and Xenoblade 3 Everblight Plain to Cloudkeep was about 48 minutes. I don't remember if anybody ever did Xenoblade 2. This is assuming taking the shortest possible routes and the character had the fastest movement speed modifier so Xenoblade had Quickstep 50%, Xenoblade X was sprinting the entire time and Xenoblade 3 had 28% from maxing out all the colony reputations. Loading zone times were cut out and in Xenoblade 1's case fast travel was used to go from Valak to Fallen Arm and Agniritha to Bionis Interior. Xenoblade X gets kind of shafted but if you were to add a intersecting point in Primordia to the Northeastern corner of Cauldros you would add an additional 22 minutes to Mira so the time to travel in Xenoblade games would be. 4) Xenoblade X straight line - 35 minutes 3) Xenoblade 1 - 40 minutes 2) Xenoblade 3 - 48 minutes 1) Xenoblade X modified - 57 minutes
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Huh, that's very interesting! Yeah it's a big part of implied size how long a map is, since it will be faster to travel too. Pretty interesting given that X is the biggest game, but still is the fastest to traverse. It's probably because the characters in X is very fast if I recall correctly :)
@Evan-mt7bc
Жыл бұрын
@@Sunowaddle The biggest culprit is likely that Mira is a circular world map and the direct route only visits 3 of the game's 5 continents while Xenoblade 1 and 3 visit every continent.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
@@Evan-mt7bc Aaah I see, never played X myself so thanks for clearing that up :)
@dialga4688
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the size of the Cadensia region was done intentionally to parallel Earth. Wouldn't surprise me if Monolith Soft made the sea region the majority of the map like the oceans are a majority of Earth's surface.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
That's a cool way to think of it as, could actually be! :)
@faiznordin9343
Жыл бұрын
what a f-ing madlad
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
😎
@gmangaming9956
Жыл бұрын
my man's needs to look up world record sprints if he thinks that running at 20mph is impossible.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Probably didn't articualte it well, but it wasn't the speed itself that surprised me, but rather that their average running speed is that fast :)
@robertwahlstrom
Жыл бұрын
Sure please estimate the other 2. Would also be interesting to get both total map size and explorable map size as a number.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
I don't have the exact numbers since GeoGebra can't track moved images, but I'm pretty sure that on average around 25% of the maps were explorable, which would mean the thoretical total map size is around 162.48km^2 :) Yes definitely want to try and measure the other Xenoblade games in the future!
@schoolroy
Жыл бұрын
If I'm honest, I really wanna see this done for Xenoblade Chronicles X as it's the only Xenoblade game that is actually open world. No loading screens except for the initial start-up. Also, I recall that game having quite an expansive map.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that could be pretty interesting to try in the future! I'm almost certaint X is the biggest Xenoblade game :)
@lued123
Жыл бұрын
In X, you can explore the ocean right up to the invisible walls, so technically you can just use the 20 km × 20 km and say it's 400 km^2. There's not much of a reason to explore said ocean though. Estimates of the land tend to put it around 150 km^2.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
@@lued123 ooh I actually thought you couldn't access most of the ocean since I've never played XCX before
@SianaGearz
Жыл бұрын
Something is wrong with character scale, if we were to go by running speed. Human sprinting speed is something like 30kmh and the ingame running doesn't look nearly as fast? I'm not convinced that the distance for quest markers makes sense, it could have any sort of fudge factor on it.
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
I mean since the only real-world reference point for scale we have are the quest markers we just have to take them as fact, but the thing about them not looking like they're running as fast as the game suggests can come to other factors too. Maybe the gravitational pull is >9.8m/s^2 on Aionios so they'd need to take fewer steps/meter compared to our earth. That's mostly conjectured though, but it's an interesting thought :)
@falcoperegrinus2292
Жыл бұрын
How does this compare to BoTW? I feel like that'd be easy to measure with your method. Hook us up before doing the other Xeno games maybe!? 👀👀
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Breath of the Wild has already been measured by Jopes on KZitem, so I recommend checking out that video if you are interested :) I think BoTW is around 70km^22
@noahmichael2213
Жыл бұрын
Don't some areas have explorable areas that are stacked/layered on each other? I can't imagine there are many of them but they still do exist
@Sunowaddle
Жыл бұрын
Yep, and I took them into account too, which I mention at 3:35 :) They don't add up to too much, but I thought it was nice to include them anyways
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