Rather than using a cinema camera package, Vee decided to shoot this episode with the Sony A7Siii with Sony/Zeiss Plantar lenses. While not the same as her original short, they're both affortable and popular setups at their respective times of filmming!
@cookiemasta1658
2 жыл бұрын
You have failed again! Actors are under-exposed now! There is not enough light! Look how dark they are!
@idkanymore3382
2 жыл бұрын
The equipment you used was in the THOUSANDS you are not using budget equipment cringe lord
@AnimeZone247
2 жыл бұрын
@@idkanymore3382 that is budget, what do you want them to use the sony dsc-W830?
@i_so_late
2 жыл бұрын
"there's good cinematography and there's bad cinematography, and then there’s the cinematography that’s right for the movie" you have a very dramatic high contrast look for something pretty simple and light-hearted, you can't just always go for what looks cool, it has to fit the story
@apostalote
2 жыл бұрын
Someone tell the directors of Euphoria this. This is sneakily a massive problem in cinematography these days. People are losing sense of the emotionality tonality
@piotrgraniszewski8544
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is the real problem with the second version. Nicely put.
@haileykurioreilly9890
Жыл бұрын
@@apostalote Nice-looking cinematography isn't automatically bad. IMO the dark colorful and moody lighting works for a show about drug addiction, sexuality, and excess, for a show titled "Euphoria" no less. It's almost expressionistic at times in its portrayal of its characters' inner mental states. It's also really popular for teenagers today to fit colored lights into their own rooms, make things "aesthetic", in total I think it kinda captures a moment in teenage life.
@LockedOnStudios
2 жыл бұрын
As others have pointed out, the new version feels off. I think the main problem is that telling the story took a backseat to upping the production value. The blank walls and dingy kitchen with scratches on the walls served the story so much better than a well decorated, cozy home. The pacing was very fast, I was having a hard time even telling what was supposed to be happening, and the music clashed with the tone of the scene. The over-the-shoulder shots were a very safe choice that communicated nothing about the characters, whereas the old one had much more interesting blocking, and I even liked the Dutch angle - it added character. The old one wasn't perfect, and the compositions and lighting could have been improved at times. But it did a better job putting all the focus on the story, and that's the most important thing, right?
@AnimeZone247
2 жыл бұрын
and this is why yall movies are sucking. Everything is equally important, everything contributes to the story, not just words on a page or ppl talking. The way a room is decorated is just as important as the "story," what camera you choose is just as important, as the lens choice, location, and sound design. All of that and more contribute to a story. is the story the most important, yes. Bc that involves everything
@jonasuki
2 жыл бұрын
Might as well call the second one a commercial. The first one has a lot more character
@roedolfsmit4884
2 жыл бұрын
One thing that I'd like to understand is how much of the improvement is skill, and how much is larger crew + bigger budget. No doubt you are an excellent cinematographer, but with any good experiment you hold as many variable as possible static. So how much better can you make that old short within the same constraints you had last time (i.e similar crew, similar budget, similar location etc.). I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels (on occasion at least) that I could be so much better if I only had [location/budget/gear/crew/production designer/etc.]. How much of that can you take out of the equation? I also accept that these are still Aputure sponsored videos, so gear will have to feature, but maybe keep it to the Amarans and other beginner budget options?
@jamesSevenAteNine
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I’d like to see a video using only 1 person and maybe an assistant, as many beginner film makers can’t afford a crew, and have to do everything (camera man, director, writer, lighting etc)
@alextab25
2 жыл бұрын
Your spot on.
@vipinpvadgj126
2 жыл бұрын
totally agree...... i was gona say samething....and adding to this..... the second video looks like commercial video and artificial more... because of the usage of lots of colors without aesthetics..... and no planning about showing imperfections to make the scene looks realistic like pros do and u locked those kids inside a table like some movie scenes we have already seen and that restricted those actors to act with their full body, when compared to the first video....in the first video, those kids look so real......u have to change your mindset of shooting and looking into the frames in different way on scenes and commercials....this is why some commercial cinematographers fails on shooting movies.... all this just because i like valentina videos...
@felipfidelis
2 жыл бұрын
thats truly
@nikilragav
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agreed. Relatedly, an "a7siii" is "relatively affordable" according to their description. It's still $3500 for just the body + at least $1k for lenses + at least $500 for the rest of the rig. We're talking $5k at least. And there are no lights, stands, audio... With all of that added, we're probably in the $10-$15k range. Not in same realm as her t3i footage (which btw actually can still shoot some amazing footage). She should imo compare with an a6400, some average kit lens, up to 2 amarans, 2 stands, and a deity or rode 3.5mm mic on a pole, regular cardboard for bounces & flags. Total we're in the $2-3k range.
@jonathanalfred446
2 жыл бұрын
Would've been great to shoot it with the same resources as the original one... Same cameras, lights and number of crew members !
@yansterckx2206
2 жыл бұрын
Imo the new looks too much like a mcdonald's commercial instead of a "short film" look, it's too polished, furniture are placed like it's in an ikea or... a commercial as I said. The lighting is very flashy. It is certainly a step up from the old version production value-wise. But I don't think it matches the intention. But still good work, the new version shows a real progress and control in image.
@loukimein6229
2 жыл бұрын
The lighting is really well done, way too good tho. I actually enjoyed the look of the first one the most. I think it goes to show that just cause you can make It "better" doesn't mean you should. It's really hard for a DOP to restrain himself when so much gear is available. I also think what you should have done is use the same exact gear and just show us what you would have done differently now, if anything you could have added small little affordable changes, but nothing crazy. It's hard to tell what's a skill difference(which there obviously is) and what's better equipment. You go on to say camera doesn't matter, giving us the expectation that you're gonna rely on better skill alone and then pull out thousands of dollars in lights, crew and that tasty zeiss glass. Good results tho. I mean no harm in these words :)
@Yourleftismyright88
2 жыл бұрын
The first one reminded of Noah Baumbach movie especially since he works with Robbie Ryan who loves natural light. I would have loved to see an update to the home movie visually in that style and how you can use natural light to it's advantage, but still well done.
@GhostStealth590
2 жыл бұрын
Big advantage for the revisitation... You're not alone. I'll be honest, the most challenging obstacles when making a short film for me is 0 equipment other than my camera, and it's just me with the film knowledge. Even then, there's things I don't fully know how to do by myself, and I need people to bounce ideas off of on how to best frame a shot. When you're on a set with a bunch of people who also know as much as you, that's when you start cookin.
@umbramann1139
2 жыл бұрын
I love this "try to make it better" idea, learning and evolving demo's are great.
@mateuszcebula273
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly - I don't think it was an improvement. The old one might lack in some technical aspects, however the setup, the scenography and the colors looked more natural and - paradoxically - more interesting than in the new one. In the new one the acting was stiff and the whole thing looked like a generic insurance commercial. The only real improvement was the sound.
@soundbreaker2485
2 жыл бұрын
Old vs new should be a series. I’m considering going back and reshooting my old films
@JaumeMS
2 жыл бұрын
It would have been nice to shoot it with the T3i too! Nice episode, it shows how inportant is lighting. However the art and set design in the new version is really important too!
@JohnSoh
2 жыл бұрын
Right...just using the same equipment and budget
@Mu3azOsman
2 жыл бұрын
love these remakes, they show the progress and help us avoid similar mistakes
@anzhonnycastillo1731
2 жыл бұрын
I would have been very interested to see this made with the same camera. I think a lot of us started with the t3i and I've always had the idea of going back to it and testing myself with it. Thanks for the video, it was very interesting to see.
@alibelal9414
2 жыл бұрын
i always has troubles with the background blinding with the actors but now i just realized the issue and learned the solution , thank you guys
@vipinpvadgj126
2 жыл бұрын
. the second video looks like commercial video and artificial more... because of the usage of lots of colors without aesthetics..... and no planning about showing imperfections to make the scene looks realistic like pros do and u locked those kids inside a table like some movie scenes we have already seen and that restricted those actors to act with their full body, when compared to the first video....in the first video, those kids look so real......u have to change your mindset of shooting and looking into the frames in different way on scenes and commercials....this is why some commercial cinematographers fails on shooting movies.... all this just because i like valentina videos...
@ChrissyMarshall_
2 жыл бұрын
I loved watching your reflect on your old work and seeing how you improved everything. Thank you so much for making and sharing this 💜
@Matthew-lm3zl
2 жыл бұрын
This was much better than I thought before clicking on it. Well structured, very informative and overall very well done. I look forward to more like this!
@sajeertliha9881
2 жыл бұрын
I like the content idea though you were too harsh on the old you, on a person that you used to that shaped you now.. I'm kind of taking aside with 10 years ago Valentina Vee lol. Just because the spark of passion when we used to have is what makes us perfectionists talented people today. I really appreciate that old film you did and the improvement that happen in your career life. thank you for sharing these great experiences and You don't have to apologize for your great old short film :D
@Thepietro5000pp
2 жыл бұрын
The lighting in the new one seems weird, almost like a commercial. Seems overdone to me
@valentinavee
2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense since I work as a commercial DP.
@AntonNordstrand
2 жыл бұрын
Personally I would have loved to see you use the same gear, or at least only working with natural light 🤷♂️
@tpain525
2 жыл бұрын
"Kid actors are diffrent because you have to be nice to them" LMAOOOOO true
@aputurelighting
2 жыл бұрын
😂
@charlinwillis5577
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing me a better version. And, although this version story is less cohesive, you showed me what I came for: how to light a scene.
@pudelkopf1093
Жыл бұрын
I love your tutorials. Always watching those while eating to get some extra new thoughts.
@LarsWaltherFilm
2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best ideas for the film school you ever had! I love this! I would love to see more of that! Thank you!
@BasicFilmmaker
2 жыл бұрын
Love the old vs new,
@McEdam
2 жыл бұрын
This was amazing to see! I think I should do something like this? My only point I like on the original over the remake is that the kids standing when there arguing feels more dynamic! Apart from that Ultimately a massive improvement. My only question is what if your back catalogue of films do you recommend I watch first? Iv only discovered this channel today
@yamikanikatunga1749
2 жыл бұрын
Wow... I thought I was the only one, but I like the first one better. I feel it more. The production of the second is impeccable (wasn't a fan of the strength of the backlight on the boy at the table) but the production was impressive. It was like the Fresh Prince of Bel Air, of the 90s versus a high-budget Netflix production now.
@moes_film
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome acting by the kids!
@aputurelighting
2 жыл бұрын
Seriously! They killed it 🙏
@romantra1311
2 жыл бұрын
Where can I watch the first one to fully compare? From just the snippets, the first one feels a lot more expressive especially with staging. The movement around each other, the pointing to go get a job, the eye lead from the girl before the swish pan, the 2 shot close ups of each parent with a child making it more personal, the empty fridge showing us that they had no groceries vs just popping a pop tart…all better stuff in the original I say. Well, that’s just my two cents. Thanks for uploading to help us get better at our craft as well.
@chelsbowker
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you included the diagrams of the lighting.
@TheFlashStickman
2 жыл бұрын
This was incredible to watch come together! Keep making more videos like this.
@valentinavee
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sarawmb5378
Жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Can you guys maybe post a video about lighting fridges, oven shots and such tiny spaces?!
@rinusworldzm
2 жыл бұрын
This was amazing to watch and so encouraging. Thank you for sharing this.
@aputurelighting
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@rockynashlive
2 жыл бұрын
Love this! I put the same thought into my commercial photography set lighting years ago. Now that I'm in video, I have a lot to learn. Thank you for sharing this behind-the-scenes look. Being an artist and a professional photographer definitely helps my in journey to better videos.
@sibs2129
2 жыл бұрын
This is honestly surprisingly motivating. I really got the sense that if I just shooting crappy I'll eventually get good
@planetarta
2 жыл бұрын
I'd agree the newer one definitely has higher production value but thats because you added value with the amount of money spent on lights, crew etc I think the thing that threw me off most about the new one is the couch being so unnaturally so far away from the wall in the middle of the room - looked so staged and like a set where no house has this couch in the middle of the room. On contrary, loved the conversation piece at the table. The little girls acting was great.
@Sidiann
2 жыл бұрын
Im 16 and I really want to get further into film making. I am wondering if you guys know of any programs either online or in the bay area where I can talk to and learn from experienced people? Its quite difficult to learn from only KZitem and practice when you don't have anyone who can act for you or help you with the set. Thanks!
@mrfryfilmguy
2 жыл бұрын
Living the dream! I keep thinking how good it would be to go back and reshoot an old film I did, that I like..but technical errors abound lol
@EposVox
2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE this idea!
@TlhOnYT
2 жыл бұрын
Love the personality you’re bringing to the set and video and the outcome, very good
@alexbadeau5027
2 жыл бұрын
This was a really creative concept for a video !
@valentinavee
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex!
@alexbadeau5027
2 жыл бұрын
@@valentinavee Anytime ! And thanks for all your videos ! I’m in production currently for a short film project and I’m my own DP, and for every shot I’ve implemented at least some knowledge I’ve learned from these videos over the years !
@JamesKalidiasMC
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Also, and it know it hasn’t much to do with Aputure/Lighting, but could you tell us more about that Sony rig you used ?
@jocantseecolor7619
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this!
@mrjoebsoto
Жыл бұрын
question, I notice there's a lot of scrims/nets used to stop down the lights in most videos. Is this absolutely necessary for LED COBs and Panels that have a dimming function?
@popotade4621
2 жыл бұрын
The fingerpointing was iconic, should have replicated it.
@awaazteri
2 жыл бұрын
ARGGGHHH HANGER. WAITING FOR EPISODE 2.
@Imbillybradford
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly thought the original looked more like a film and the newer one looked like a commercial. Cool idea though.
@jieyiwang1749
2 жыл бұрын
the color palette is better (suits better) in the original for an argument scene. Second one feels too cozy and earthy and decorated. And better, fluid actor movements in the first while the second is completely stagnant. And I don't understand the hate for flat lighting. It's ok to flat lighting sometime. (still I love aputure tutorial and I learnt so much)
@JonathanPalfrey
2 жыл бұрын
@@jieyiwang1749 good point about the lack of movement. I guess with all that lighting and set up there wasn’t the time/space to allow the actors to move much.
@jenchieri8353
2 жыл бұрын
Can we use smoke machine to make haze? I wonder adding the haze liquid into the smoke machine then use a fan to spread it..
@valentinavee
2 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned! We have a smoke machine vs filters episode coming up soon!
@jenchieri8353
2 жыл бұрын
@@valentinavee ooh..great.. I'm excited now..😁
@AnupVasisht
2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or was the back light in the boy's shot too harsh?
@alexandersakharov4446
2 жыл бұрын
Good visual part. Thanks a lot! Sound? Well, you probably should do something with sound. It is really overloaded.
@igoruenf
2 жыл бұрын
Got should have used the same T3i. It would have been awesome!!
@igoruenf
2 жыл бұрын
You*
@GlassfilmWeddings
2 жыл бұрын
No filter gang. After you export into KZitem. IG, Tiktok. You get soft skin tones. I like having sharpest image due to that. Hopefully one day KZitem, IG will have better quality
@ONSTAGEMUSICPODCAST
2 жыл бұрын
This is AWESOME!
@BastiMark
2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching your videos! Would love to see more of these episodes
@vigniswarakaundar1873
2 жыл бұрын
what camera you used for shoot the present short film?
@LoanHouseProduction
2 жыл бұрын
where we can see the original movie?
@parameshwarhalder1247
2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to know us what is the camera setting
@DamienFinn
2 жыл бұрын
This is honestly incredible. Thank you for sharing. You're a badass.
@matthewantonio2165
2 жыл бұрын
Great execution and effort
@aputurelighting
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@BryantNaro
2 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! What a great educational resource. If you're just starting out as a filmmaker in 2022, videos like this will get you so much further than what we had 15 years ago. It's insightful, and well made, and the marketing portion is done in a way that isn't over the top but rather informative (showcasing the lights and how they're used). I can't wait to see what the filmmaker's growing up with Aputure and this modern film tech are going to be able to make in the coming years. And I'm constantly impressed with what Aputure is doing to pave the way. Thanks for making the LS 600D, btw ;)
@aputurelighting
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the love!
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love it 🎥🤠
@ortebalm09
Жыл бұрын
She does an amazing job.
@4reeltv
2 жыл бұрын
this was great!!
@karliemorris7318
2 жыл бұрын
You’ve come from far Valentina
@nikilragav
2 жыл бұрын
Do you have the link to the original?
@sarveshponnusamy
2 жыл бұрын
Point point 😂 don't know why it made me laugh 😂 great content Vee
@aputurelighting
2 жыл бұрын
😂
@AutoclaveBeats
2 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful... please what camera did you use for the more pro version of the short film
@gugaborba
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!! More videos like that, please!!
@aputurelighting
2 жыл бұрын
You got it!
@ijyoyo
2 жыл бұрын
This gives me a headache because I'm thinking of my own films now hahah. Love it though. Great camera t3i
@saidcisneros2933
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this video is incredible! Love the content like always! =D
@aputurelighting
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!!
@anubratsahoo1351
2 жыл бұрын
Light stand in frame at 9:00
@DavidJonesImages
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Great job on the video. Also, like 99% of online lighting tutorials, you show how to light a person standing or sitting still. In many serranoes in video the person and or camera is moving. Please do a video on lighting for movement. Best Wishes David Jones
@Anthony-fz9ye
2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to another remake in ten years~~!
@memoritobn2778
2 жыл бұрын
what lens did u use
@diptiman2008
Жыл бұрын
Woman you are worth a lot of admiration. Your story telling is so awesome...I guess i am seeing your 10th Video in a week's time. Your personality is so charming...so joyful. Please stay like this forever.... Correction.... Not 'woman'... You are a Wonder Woman..! With Lots of Love from India.
@alexbutcher
2 жыл бұрын
would have been cool to shoot it with the same camera as the original!
@NickDelDuca
2 жыл бұрын
So dope! Not a fan of the pro mist at all. I think the without shot looked way better. I think the Hollywood Black Magic is a much better filter.
@RyanBartonGrimley
2 жыл бұрын
what was the camera/lens combo? Great job and very inspirational.
@idkanymore3382
2 жыл бұрын
God this is cringe, film school students are way to particular in specific angels and composition that they forget what is important to film- creativity and breaking norms
@jjmedia5632
Жыл бұрын
both have different strengths, first one seems more real. Second one has nice commercial look to it, but more manufactured feel --which is mostly coming from the placement of the couch being soooo in the middle of the room. I just don't know any family that would sit there or put their couch so in the middle; the 2nd parents look uncomfortable on the couch. Lighting on the little girl in the 2nd one is really good and the boy, I would just change the backlight from the windows peaking in and out behind his head it is very distracting from their convo.
@carlosamado7606
Жыл бұрын
actually my house has a couch very in the middle, however there is a reason for it. It sits in a position that is ideal for seeing tv from that placement and allows room behind to get to the dining table. But that depends on the layout of the house. Also there is motivated placement for ours while in this one is just randomly there. We also ahve a small desk right ahead of the tv where we place the remotes, a few magazines and decoration. Here the couch randomly just stands there in the middle by itself. She speaks of motivated lighting but has no motivated forniture, it all looks like a prop.
@davadh
2 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion, original version might have more chances at Sundance 😉. Obviously the video is about the techniques and production value, so great job on that
@omnirhythm
2 жыл бұрын
0:29 seriously, the hand-to-the-camera transition?
@sander1068
2 жыл бұрын
Was that a Panasonic S1H? Looks good!
@dwaynefoong
2 жыл бұрын
amazing episode
@aov_james
2 жыл бұрын
I have question regards to my first aputure lights. I have a space in my home (L 3m x W 3m x H 5m) I bought 1 combo and 3 c-stands prior to buying appropriate lights. Do you think space is limiting to cut/shape/modify bigger lights like 600d? (i.e book lights) I was thinking 600d for key(book light) p60c(2x) for back drop, 60x for back in home studio setup. Any recommendations for small home studio?
@Kradukman
2 жыл бұрын
If you go with that much light, you need nd filters to cut some light on your sensor or you'll lose dop. 3m is not that much if you want to separate your subject from the background + using a booklight, a black floppy and allow your actors to move a bit. Do not neglect the flags also.
@mixxtyy
2 жыл бұрын
Kinda feel like for the old film you were a Director/Storyteller, and for the new film you were a DOP/Cinematographer Imagine if the old you and new you worked together!
@videohq1181
2 жыл бұрын
14 crew, and the short is one minute and five seconds, correct? Besides technique, lights and camera gear, I would add hands... a lot of extra hands.
@johnnygraphicx673
2 жыл бұрын
Love this!!!
@algersonvincent
2 жыл бұрын
Watxh out for that stand next revisit at 9:00
@Chris_231
2 жыл бұрын
I learned so much from this. I actually get to see how it works practically. Thank you
@aputurelighting
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you learned a lot!
@AmitKumar-oc6qr
2 жыл бұрын
the light coming from the back of the kid has no flare on screen, it makes it look very artificial. also the first one looked more like a film and less like a commercial
@heshamsobhy8363
2 жыл бұрын
love it
@EitamChannel
2 жыл бұрын
Something is different between the two and I don’t it is the lightning
@eloyguisande
2 жыл бұрын
Dont be too hard on your young self, its not bad at all for what it could be
@Strangelovefilms
2 жыл бұрын
Its all about the story right?
@Easyfilm84
2 жыл бұрын
I think the window behind the boy was a bit blown out.
@bmxbanditdude
2 жыл бұрын
I don't get why you are so cranky with yourself. You made a video. That is awesome. Of course you don't have the knowlege that you do now. But how many people don't make their first piece? Everyone has to start somewhere…. If you were still filming stuff like that *now*, well, that would be a problem…. Take it easy on past you 😃🤙
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