Few things i do want to add about the testing. Crit in general is a bad way to build as of current until AFTER tooth fairy. or if you bring character like voyager who can increase crit rate to have stable crit. Thunderous is a very bad chube for anyone but lilya for the most part, so no suprise here. Over all, crit, especially crit damage will make a much more significant difference at resonate 13+ AND with tooth fairy as support.
@iamrivenous
11 ай бұрын
Much agreed! I have based all the manual loadouts on the current recommended sheet which does suggest crit for basically all DPSes, however, as you said, while it might not be great right now, it can (and will) change in the future. ATK is such an important stat in this game, when 37 releases that will also give crit loadouts more value as 37 can provide the ATK needed for the crit to scale off. Regarding thew Lilya Part - even on her I have had EVEN results with BNW and that psychube is behind my Thunderous. But overall agreed, depending on your team and R-Lvl things will shift. As for now, quickload does seem not that bad, but might change in the future according to what you have written. Thanks for the comment! Love it Edit: Just realized its u lol, love ur vids.
@stringdoll50
11 ай бұрын
Yea and I agree. I was confused about why every dps need to be "Crit" when you can stack atk + def on them like balance character and overall much more effective. There is no reason to hard stacking 25% crit chance into 40% crit chance just to lose tons of atk in process Thunderous has plenty use for Cen, Regulus, Eagle there which can achieve crit rate ranging from 60%-100% and it will be massive once they trigger their ultimate. No need to ditch on the psychubee just because you hate it. There arent many bosses anti-crit yet in the game.
@Talon18136
11 ай бұрын
Oh yes crit based gameplay bad
@pbkeyi
11 ай бұрын
Crit isn't bad. It's still bis for basically any reso 10 dps, even sonette who has almost no crit tech to start with. Below reso 10 it's a bit sus tho as it's basically the same damage as atk builds if you don't crit fish your opening, worse damage if you do and also less consistent. Applause is bad tho even on crit carries w/o dupes. On regu it's just 2% worth than duty and manage to have less dps than 0 stacks hop in st.
@poknari
7 ай бұрын
Hi bun, Please create all the 10 recomendation resonance composition for the all units, or will you get/create the spreadsheets?
@iamrivenous
11 ай бұрын
As not all people will watch the entire video, I want to emphasize on the takeaway at the end of the video here, because it is important: If you are a casual player, don't worry too much about quickload being complete useless trash. It will do just fine for you. If you are a hardcore player and care about min-maxing: There are so many variables in place which all scale off each other (characters, team composition, enemies, psychubes,...). It is nearly impossible to give a perfect answer. But if you enjoy attempting the hardest content and enjoy getting the most out of your account: Do it manually, but be prepared to adjust it for every team composition and even depending on the enemy lineup. And last but not least, the cheat sheet provided is fine as is the testing performed by other CCs on this platform. Just dont expect the damage difference of quickload vs manual loadout to be something around 50% (I would argue, realistically it will swing into manual loadouts favor for "perfect setups" in endgame limbo by around 2-8%). If I am wrong and am proven otherwise, I will pin a comment and upload a follow-up video.
@TimoNaaro
11 ай бұрын
Great work! But if zoomer cant watch 5min video. They wont read this...and world has no hope
@JIN-my8ce
11 ай бұрын
Manually resonance is like blessing for me tho. You can create variety of builds for your characters with addition of variety of psychubes. Wishing for another contents to optimizing my characters tho.
@usmansubhani7482
11 ай бұрын
I always use Quick Load because balance is important. Too many Crit can have the character dying too early.
@adamlogan1951
11 ай бұрын
Truly appreciate all the time and work you put into this analysis!
@iamrivenous
11 ай бұрын
Exchanged my pinned comment for Buns, cause he brought up a very important point
@waifudestroyer2120
11 ай бұрын
Manual Load is most important on crit oriented characters like lilya. And maybe Healers since it's better to load up on defence/hp
@Albrecht87
11 ай бұрын
I'm beginning to really love this channel. Good job.
@RexZShadow
11 ай бұрын
The problem with resonance really is the limited size and the stats are so low that there the tiny variation between them almost don't matter at all.
@Vladumere
11 ай бұрын
Besides crit chance, a lot of the stats are misleading as well. Especially since damage calcs are decided by atk-def and the dmg bonuses are typically weaker than straight up attack, and are less useful than the flat stat reso blocks for defensese and health
@billdecou242
11 ай бұрын
A big chunk of it is in the 10+ area where we have it as a 7x7 grid. But that is kind of time gated with the crystal boxes, which are about 3-4/patch (2 a month from Limbo and one from Limbo assuming a month and a half for each event). Each unit needs one crystal for level 10-15, so 6 total for each level 15 resonance.
@RexZShadow
11 ай бұрын
@@billdecou242 At this early in the game it feels almost pointless to even bother customizing. It's like at most I can change a few block of few tiny %.
@billdecou242
11 ай бұрын
@@RexZShadow True, too soon to really worry about optimizing. Depending on your roster it won't be until the raids before I will worry about it and that is assuming leaderboards are implemented or I just need to eak out a little more.
@Life-Sky
11 ай бұрын
The jump in stats from resonate 9>10 is HUGE, that's were it start to matter more IMO:
@valtaza
11 ай бұрын
Awesome work! Best take away for me, if you got stuck and you need tiny more damage then try adjust resonance! Also the same for def, I manage to finish stage 7 by survive one more turn.
@soltecno1
11 ай бұрын
The information is useful, thank you, I was already tangled trying to put together that puzzle for each character.
@kojiro77x
11 ай бұрын
I found your video as an answer to my unanswered question 😅
@iamrivenous
11 ай бұрын
Happy if it helps!
@Fuegology
11 ай бұрын
BNW Your content is absolutely goated.
@iamrivenous
11 ай бұрын
Much appreciated, thanks!
@KorpKyuuSama
11 ай бұрын
This is because Crit chance is so low in most characters, +4% means almost nothing
@Life-Sky
11 ай бұрын
Also enemies have Crit Defense and Crit Resist, bosses have higher stats on that area as well, this is why Lilya is falling off on Chinesse server.
@naufalsyauqifillah6388
11 ай бұрын
Wow you really word hard for this luv your video, more subs for you from me hahaha 🎉
@Pani_Missy
11 ай бұрын
.....well I've been quickloading since I unlocked Resonance...and purely because I just don't have the time and energy to play tetris when I'm on the go and less about numbers....Great video. Good analysis.
@theysisossenthime
11 ай бұрын
I compared my custom manual load to the the auto load. Almost identical. The only difference was that I replaced two 1x1 blocks the auto load selected with one 2x1 block. This gives a DMG Bonus and Critical DMG increase at the cost of HP and DMG Taken Reduction. I think I'll stick with my strategy. For fun, I decided to try out a manual load focusing purely on maxing out base Attack. The only real significant loss was crit stats. My two damage dealers are Lilya and Centurion, so I am weary to go all in on attack for them. If I had a non-crit focused damage dealer, I think I would give the attack focus a try. This did make me think. The top characters today (and near future in global) have buffs or debuffs for have: defense down, crit defense down, defense penetration, damage increase, and crit increase. The big stat missing is attack - unless I missed something. Now I haven't mathed it all out, but I suspect that this give base attack from psychube and/or resonance more value right now.
@MrHobocecil
11 ай бұрын
Finally, a channel with facts
@mickiekatsuragi2690
11 ай бұрын
thanks, always used quickload for everyone, might do a manual one for regulus cuz need more crit rate
@thailehuy
11 ай бұрын
Using a crit loadout might have make manual load lose a bit of value due to low crit rate a single unit has (i.e with a crit debuff support it will be better) However I do agree that the difference won't be heaven and earth, since at most you are looking at around 3-4% dmg difference and less than 5% atk difference Many players seem to focus on dmg bonus% and crit stuff (I blame genshin) instead of atk, but here atk has the highest value due to the dmg formula (atk - def)
@lolyiz971
11 ай бұрын
The value of stats being different is something to get used to after how much its emphasized in hoyo games elemtal damage bonus always > attack damage Thank you content creators
@joaomarcoscosta4647
11 ай бұрын
@@lolyiz971 Yeah. As a rule of thumb, on games that use Atk - Def for damage calculation, Atk is super important. So examples are Arknights and Fire Emblem For games that use Atk / Def on their formula, atk is comparatively less valuable. (To be precise, you generally want a good balance between every offensive stat. But since atk is usually the easiest stat to stack, the rarer stats end up becoming more valuable. Or at least this is what happens on Epic 7, Genshin, and Star Rail, with the exception of some specific characters) While not as common, some games use Atk^2 on the formula instead. Nedless to say, this makes ATK super valuable. (Final Fantasy Brave Exvius did it. Not sure about other games in the series.)
@SundayMatinee
11 ай бұрын
Great work! Is there any data on what improves your DPS character the most? Levels, Insight, Resonance, Psychube upgrade? I think a guide on what to level up and when would be useful for beginners and even intermediate players.
@iamrivenous
11 ай бұрын
Some of the data you can actually find within the data sheet I made, although not 100% concusive. Going R9 gave about 57% more damage when not using any weapon, whereas adding an E3 Lv60 Thunderous gave a 65% damage increase (both single target). Will depend a lot on psychubes, target type and characters, so it is a lot of work to get a valid average. But I will consider it, thanks for the suggestion!
@byeguyssry
11 ай бұрын
I wish that we could save loadouts...
@poknari
7 ай бұрын
Please create all the 10 recomendation resonance composition for the all units, or will you get/create the spreadsheets?
@Life-Sky
11 ай бұрын
I think this shows that is lackluster because of Crit Def and Crit Resist, if you try it with a stronger boss I think you will see even more favourable results for flat Attack. Also *quickload does suck* , it puts crit on my Sotheby and Balloon Party, they don't need it!
@Vyperium
11 ай бұрын
BNW New to the channel and already like your work and dedication ! I'm Lilya main and saw my resonance lv9 quickload with a ton of atk and def setup when I need crit based stats. I switched a def piece to a crit one and will see the loadout of the discord.
@iamrivenous
11 ай бұрын
As I mentioned in the small sidenote during my disclaimer (if you didnt read it, thats fine lol), I also tested it a bit with lilya and quickload was slightly ahead there as well compared to the full crit layout. However, that's in a solo environment.
@Vyperium
11 ай бұрын
@@iamrivenous I did, even it's was very small in my phone screen :) Thanks for what you're doing for the community ! Are you using another account to run these tests ? Because 360 runs of the same level isn't really efficient for your own account ^^
@pbkeyi
11 ай бұрын
I've bruteforce called every combination of resonance for all levels. My conclusion is basically loadouts below 10 don't matter. The difference between mathematically "bis" and 5th best builds under my assumptions was basically within a margin of error and one missed crit could swing it either way with like 1% damage diff. There are however actually best build at reso 10 and difference between best build and 2nd best is 3% already for the chars I've calced it on. It also is the highest DPS spike at ~15-18% depending on a char while every level of reso below consistently hovers in the 3% range.
@iamrivenous
11 ай бұрын
Which is very in line with my testing. Great, thanks for your work!
@cleanerwhite9470
11 ай бұрын
I still can't believe there's a Navi Cust system from MMBN in this game 😂
@Tin_Le
11 ай бұрын
Crit characters like Lilya & Eagle benefit more from manual load since quickload is more on health BNW
@thomasnguyen4427
7 ай бұрын
Very important, because the game is lying to your face about the difficulty of anything above "Insight 2 Lv.30" because Levels don't give you shit in terms of survivability. I'm stuck at Res Lv.5 because I started playing in the middle of ver 1.3 event, Journey to Mor Pankh, and I calculated I would have to spend the rest of my Activity points grinding out Stage 14 Arduous to have any chance of sweeping the shops clean. Plus, the "UTTU" stage 15 is bs after bs. I'm stuck in a catch-22 here.
@fedrecedriz6868
11 ай бұрын
Does Charlie like crit rate and crit dmg? My future team would be Charlie + Voyager + Toothfairy. And I'm wondering if Charlie would benefit from crit stats, or probably not as much compared to Lilya or Regulus.
@VyanTan
11 ай бұрын
No, Charlie doesn't benefit from crit because her base crit is already lower than some healer. Better to focus on dmg boost. I know because I use Charlie with TA on second team in Limbo and she barely crit, switch to footloose and she gets better instantly 😂
@fedrecedriz6868
11 ай бұрын
@VyanTan I see, then I guess my future team won't be that good? My Charlie is at p3, so I want to raise her as my Star dps. And I heard she's really strong at p3 (better than Lilya apparently).
@VyanTan
11 ай бұрын
@@fedrecedriz6868 she's still good just not with crit. If you really want to build crit on her, I suggest just give crit from resonance. Hopscotch is her best psychube.
@dayhunter2734
11 ай бұрын
Same but change to regulus for charlie.crit rate to crit dmg is good.when you see 10k dmg for mob is quite hillarious
@kephalai
11 ай бұрын
what are the resonance breakpoints? i realize there is no good english source that lists which resonances does your board grow in size. I only know from experience that (3?) 5, 7 and 9? grow the board..
@Life-Sky
11 ай бұрын
10 is the latest tile growth to 7x7, it's a HUGE difference from resonance 9, it's highly recommended on DPS.
@bindingself
10 ай бұрын
can u help resonance centurion instead?
@COA5T
11 ай бұрын
BNW
@YokaiYY
11 ай бұрын
Bnw
@Talon18136
11 ай бұрын
Not surprised the lazy people make a video on not using an important feature that has been proven to be very helpful
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