What do you think about today's episode? Do you like the branch of italian cruisers?
@hskuro
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation!
@sinhangso5107
4 жыл бұрын
No more ambushes!
@avapuckett4007
4 жыл бұрын
Will the italian bb get this
@crevieauxquentin9657
4 жыл бұрын
How does it work? Well it's another bullshit invented to prevent people to actually learn to angle. Because unlike AP that bounces and shatters on angled ships or overpen superstructure, SAP just penetrates. Over and over again. Casualization of the game has begun with HE spammers. Now SAP and IFHE rework will enhance cancer in the game.
@banquetcaptain4928
4 жыл бұрын
can you guys add italian cruisers and battleships to World of Warship Blitz
@xXE4GLEyEXx
4 жыл бұрын
Keep these up WG! These and Naval Legends + the "Dry Dock" are all amazing series!
@sudeshnad1
4 жыл бұрын
Did they call mino well armored cruiser Wg: Mino is resistant to SAP shell in certain cases so she is well armored Venezia blaps her with 15 AP shells Wg: Me and my big mouth
@IHaevATajpo
4 жыл бұрын
Sudeshna Das Sharma thE memeotaur is a floating citadel
@457mm.stalinium
3 жыл бұрын
@@juliaslavova9672 Ever heard of "Puns"?
@NineKunGTH
4 жыл бұрын
Finally, After waiting this series for 8 months (Not count "How it works. Essentials")
@radioactiveboi842
4 жыл бұрын
1:20 Yamato: "SO YOU HAVE CHOSEN *DEATH* "
@cluster4583
3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@JETZcorp
3 жыл бұрын
I like the implication that you can actually aim for certain parts of a ship in the Italians. It's buckshot. Just aim at a boat and pull the trigger; they're going to go everywhere.
@BHuang92
4 жыл бұрын
SAP Shells Destroyers: Deathblow Cruisers: Just a flesh wound Battleships: WAT DAMAGE?
@TasteMyMissile
4 жыл бұрын
but with italian AP .....
@prisuners6275
4 жыл бұрын
You definitely forgot the bow and stern parts, not to mention, those humongous superstructures. You can r/whoosh me if you wish, but that's the fact
@juri8723
4 жыл бұрын
Rino Widia very true. Yamato eats so much damage on her massive bows.
@NissanR33Ztune
4 жыл бұрын
yeah its just sad ..... WOW was an enjoyable game but that all changed 2 years ago.....
@TasteMyMissile
4 жыл бұрын
@steve n exactely but i play german BB
@peterkiss4300
4 жыл бұрын
Keep doing this series!! There is no such thing is enought. I like to learn. And is easier then suffer trought dozens of battles just to figure things out.
@juri8723
4 жыл бұрын
Dear Wargaming: please make the extended smoke upgrade available on Italian cruisers.
@trlacr1781
4 жыл бұрын
Yes it would be very useful.
@solidball9314
4 жыл бұрын
Man it would be OP AF
@solidball9314
4 жыл бұрын
@LoneStrider Well I think it's not suitable for italian cruiser since it already got a "not so good" concealment. And 4~5 more sec of smoke is not worth it.
@Faruhane
4 жыл бұрын
Poor full speed smoke for italian line up
@vado9579
4 жыл бұрын
Who designed the shape of the shells in the video? lewd!
@waryth4475
4 жыл бұрын
no one ever made torpedo or shell toys to be put inside something yet
@adamstephenson14
4 жыл бұрын
@@waryth4475 I'd be very surprised if they don't exist anywhere. People are always looking out for that penetration.
@pluto3061
4 жыл бұрын
wow, just wow.
@weirdunknownperson2916
4 жыл бұрын
OWO DADDY PLZ PUT THAT SAP IN ME UWU
@radioactiveboi842
4 жыл бұрын
"we are entering fetish levels that shouldn't even be possible"
@gaso_9840
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome works guys ! We need french subtitles for this one too !
@belladesa91
4 жыл бұрын
What about learning some English?
@richarddejesus4666
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact:there a French battleship called dunkerque
@zennidu2507
4 жыл бұрын
Hey World of Warships, Maybe you can start a new kind of videos like HOW TO. For example it seems nice to me to see how to aim better or for example how to win more often. Such things like that.
@AsttoScott
4 жыл бұрын
SAP rounds aren't the issue, it's the slow reloading times and reduced xp you get for using them.
4 жыл бұрын
you get reduced exp for using them????
@i_termx_i3854
4 жыл бұрын
@ Not at all! You don't get increase/decrease XP values based on using certain shell types. The XP amount you earn in the game is based on your performance (kills, potential damage, spotting damage, fire damage, flooding damage, caps/defense, overall main battery damage, etc). If he is getting less xp using SAP, he is most likely not hitting the ideal locations to maximize the damage output they inflict. Also, your not going to earn a lot of XP if all you do one thing only like farming battleships. Compared to someone else that focus on other targets like cruisers and destroyers, even works around the objectives for his/her team. There's also a lot of players (even to this day) that don't understand the mechanics behind all these shell types to use them at the right moment. So they usually spam one shell type only. I'm looking at you HE spamming Yamato!
@AsttoScott
4 жыл бұрын
@@i_termx_i3854 You do earn significantly less XP playing the ship. I play the ship like a beast and it still earns less compared to other Cruisers I play. The points you're expected to aim and hit at range usually miss and then when you're in close enough you only end up switching to AP anyways. It also has the problem with higher calibre BB's that when you're in close enough even when facing them directly on you're severely punished because they can still punch right through the armor, I had the same problem with the Hindy yet I can face directly on targets with my Colbert and or British cruiser and watch everything bounce away. The ship still needs work.
@i_termx_i3854
4 жыл бұрын
@@AsttoScott It still comes down to your overall performance when playing any ship in this game, regardless how you think otherwise. There is no XP mechanic that determines your results based on any shell type alone. Cruisers are at the top of the chain (even battleships) when it comes to XP reward values due to the high DPM output they can put out in a short time span. The one class that suffers the most based on XP rewards is the carrier class. Also, it is a cruiser and like all cruisers they are going to get deleted if you expose yourself to a battleship (or any ship type) that can overmatch your armor when they start focusing you. I don't know why you think that's an issue. It sounds like a case of poor positioning on your part. That smoke consumable is there for you to use to help you disengage and retreat when needed. They have to be played carefully and use cover at all times (avoid being focus on) just like any cruiser that has thin armor. A lot of the ships in this line should not be played in open water exposing yourself, or played super aggressive in brawling situations.
@das294bs
4 жыл бұрын
Wait what? Less XP? Dunno about you but I find Venezia and Italian cruisers overall pretty high xp earners even when you do meh rounds... just look at servers stats and you will see they are all in the top end including premiums.. only exception being the Genova which is truly a very bad ship with that 20 sec reload..
@SuperQBoi
4 жыл бұрын
lets wait almost a year after we introduce a new mechanic before we explain how it works!
@heineschAKN
4 жыл бұрын
Finally, a HIW on SAP
@legoseller4496
4 жыл бұрын
They should put these videos into the game client and bundle them into a new Naval Academy course. It would be great for new players (like me!).
@DarkRavin07
4 жыл бұрын
Love sap, love losing 8-12k hp a volley in my bbs. Love the fact most of my return volleys backat them are all over pens. Feels like any where you shoot a crusier now adays its just over pens. An of course thats 1-7k of damage for a 30 seconds reload...
@Neoprimal
4 жыл бұрын
3:07 Suddenly: Giussano
@christoperantoniojohan7562
4 жыл бұрын
SAP basically improved HE without the E and added ricochet
@Wrecker1738
4 жыл бұрын
I think that British light cruisers should also get these shells. Not only because they historically used them, but also to provide some variety in gameplay for these ships. Right now, it's just about spamming low caliber AP shells...
@rantaviouswilliams
Жыл бұрын
Get the Hawkins British Cruiser tech line, they have HE shells and more powerful batteries
@laryyan1358
4 жыл бұрын
whats next, APFSDS shells for battleships? 1200m/s shell velocity? or some kind of Super HE shell, with white phosphorous in it for only RU ships.
@NineKunGTH
4 жыл бұрын
What it APFSDS can do? just make a hole on your ship ?
@Carly1405
4 жыл бұрын
@@NineKunGTH flooding on the waterline
@Frostburnphoenix
4 жыл бұрын
@@NineKunGTH APDSDS stands for Armor Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot. Its a a tank shell for modern MBTs. and yea, it'll baically only punch a hole in the ship. APFSDS has no explosive filler which is what the normal AP shells have. think of HE as a shell filled to the brim with high explosives, while the AP is a APHE(Armor Piercing High Explosive), which pierces the armor, and THEN detonates
@MetaliCanuck
4 жыл бұрын
@@Frostburnphoenix I guess you don't know what Discarding Sabot means, it does more then punch a whole
@Frostburnphoenix
4 жыл бұрын
@@MetaliCanuck im not 100% on the whole workings of DS, but im sure there isnt much explosives in a dart >_> the only other thing i can recall as of this moment is that there would be quite the bit of shrapnel
@Masterhitman935
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t even played the game but I did find it informative.
@ScarletGuts
4 жыл бұрын
You should play, lol
@Masterhitman935
4 жыл бұрын
Rico T for now, I’ll stick with War Thunder.
@enricotraica3857
3 жыл бұрын
Thats why you need expert loader, so that you can change to armor piercing when broadside appears
@LordPiddlington1912
4 жыл бұрын
3:11 This is why the internal designs of these ships (and the armor plates) are important, if more ships had these design details, SAP would be much less effective. Personally, I've found the SAP damage numbers to be a little bit too high compared with HE and come with very few drawbacks.
@neutronalchemist3241
4 жыл бұрын
The biggest drawback is no fire damage. That's a big drawback especially for light cruisers.
@neutronalchemist3241
4 жыл бұрын
@Anime 60FPS It's light cruisers until T6. Fire is useful for any cruiser, but is especially useful for light cruisers, since their shells dont penetrate that much. I burned down many BBs with the Nurnberg. the same thig with the Montecuccoli is impossible.
@stevenmoore4612
4 жыл бұрын
I love this thinking mans game! Although some people who don’t think at all play this too, which kind of bothers me.
@suhandatanker
4 жыл бұрын
Steffen M. Lol like you are the only one with that kind of opinion (no offence)
@四季-i5k
4 жыл бұрын
No one A guy named shells: *exists Me: sup shells!
@das294bs
4 жыл бұрын
Ok WG now release PAOLO EMILIO, please!!!!
@matthewcheung8960
4 жыл бұрын
TBH I would use these very often for the light armored bbs and DDs, and of course Light cruisers
@matthewcheung8960
4 жыл бұрын
I would keep the angle sharp when dealing with dds as they couldn't launch torps if I am at too sharp of an angle and fire SAP shells at em
@mouth7137
4 жыл бұрын
It explodes, releasing a sticky sap that makes the target ship more flammable
@tanchenghong9749
4 жыл бұрын
Underrated
@luckyplayer9029
4 жыл бұрын
5:07 *cough* Stalingrad at 17km
@DaBeastBricks
4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, World of Warships Legends hasn't haven't even got tech tree French Destroyers, let alone Russian or Italian tech tree ships!!!
@Mr-Hakim
4 жыл бұрын
DaBeast Bricks yeah
@toast2300
4 жыл бұрын
We got ruski cruisers yay
@iamsus7158
4 жыл бұрын
Wait some guys are playing this?!
@DaBeastBricks
4 жыл бұрын
@@iamsus7158 Yeah there is a massive community who plays it. And the best part is that we don't have carriers yet, although the devs said they would be adding them.
@luisd157
4 жыл бұрын
But world of warships legends got out not too long ago
@wiseboy4
4 жыл бұрын
Nice, more tools to body DD's as well as nullify any angling with more alpha damage than HE.. seems good
@eduardmeier1818
4 жыл бұрын
shooting on broadcast cruiser, SAP is also most better than normal AP. Because normal AP is often Buggy and goes overpen on citadel.
@bushmonsterwilhelm6716
4 жыл бұрын
It looks impressive in the drawing board. Impractical in reality...
@janallenmunoz8016
4 жыл бұрын
I Miss this game
@spacecowboy1929
4 жыл бұрын
Will these SAP shells be added to other ships ? (Not only Italian)
@dasbrunei5259
4 жыл бұрын
i love the venezia, it is asome if you hits an DD on 15km an makes 12k dmg or getting 10 hits on an cruiser on 18km with more than 8k dmg
@profwalter_p6780
4 жыл бұрын
I think you can put out a video about British battleships or heavy cruisers, How they work!My HMS Vanguard is too hard to play XD
@titan_fx
4 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for explanation of Super Biased Shells of upcoming Russian CAs.
@jamieolberding7731
4 жыл бұрын
World of Warships Official Channel 349K subscribers Can you please do a video on the world's only German Type IXC U-Boat submarine that ever captured and put on display in North America: the "U-505?"
@History_Buff
4 жыл бұрын
Please show me a circumstance where it would be more beneficial for an Italian CL to fire AP and then the likelihood of that scenario unfolding in a random battle.
@hailitalia86
4 жыл бұрын
A guaranteed citadel shot is the only time its worth it really. Both shells have roughly the same max damage. So using AP is a real gamble. I've had a broadside Des Moines, I think it was, and got 10 overpens. Was a bit ridiculous, if I had just used SAP I woulda done far more reliable damage. So I've found that other Italian cruisers, Smolensk, Colbert, Moskva, Stalingrad and Mino were very easy to get a citadel. But you have to put it exactly where the citadel is. A little high and you'll just get overpens. So when it comes down to it you wanna use AP when you got a nice flat broadside and are shooting something with a citadel above water and you have to put the shells right into the citadel spot, which can be difficult and conversely easy since the shells are so fast and stick together well, especially at close range accuracy is huge.
@neutronalchemist3241
4 жыл бұрын
Do something to improve the Italian line because, as it is, it's practically unplayable until T7 and still subpar from then on. Sluggish turret turn rate, long reload time and ridicolous detection ranges without any real reason.
@SierraDelta-
4 жыл бұрын
Well I mean that’s what happens in real life soooo
@neutronalchemist3241
4 жыл бұрын
@@SierraDelta- Well, no.
@wulfjackie
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they make more new shell types.
@HoshikawaHikari
4 жыл бұрын
This knowledge of power is only power when you can play the game. I can't even run it on this pc!
@Francis915Emoji
4 жыл бұрын
yeah as i am a DD player i almost never want to fight a Italia ship.....
@xenon3127
4 жыл бұрын
Basically destroyer killer ammo? Sounds good but I'll stick to what I know for now
@smilyboi9847
4 жыл бұрын
1:15 Imagine if Minotaur had thicker armour than Yamato XDD
@jasonsu6214
3 жыл бұрын
The shells hit at different places
@tomaskysel8736
4 жыл бұрын
More shells with SAP coming?
@PBSA
4 жыл бұрын
So basically SAP are the WOT HEAT shells with the only differences been, they don't have an 130% extra perforation factor and 0 disadvantage compared to the WOT AP or APCR shell. In other words: SAP shells are like HEAT shells but they aren't broken or P2W.
@leonbruno3745
4 жыл бұрын
This should help me on World of warship blitz
@SYST3M_OVERIDE
4 жыл бұрын
Venezia is great and all but she seriously needs some visibility help like hydro
@mystyle_jm8997
4 жыл бұрын
Does the Inertia Fuse work on SAP Shells?
@MrAlexH9121
4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for all the new content on Xbox, bring it on =) love WOW 💙
@gtgreen5578
4 жыл бұрын
Anybody recognises the music playing at 3:27?
@DCS_Eternal
4 жыл бұрын
*I think it's going to hurt german mighty bb bow?*
@Skerra-kk6sm
4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in reality, Venezia's get max damage when their shells skim the side of a completely bow on ship. All they do is shoot the super-structure of any ship.
@indonesia_playa
4 жыл бұрын
basically its APHEBC but for bigger guns
@chubbybrown4real
4 жыл бұрын
I see red trails I know it's probably italian and worth a pop as it will ages for it to reload
@mayer492
4 жыл бұрын
Definitely not late
@halorulez786
4 жыл бұрын
It's a bit late for this isn't it? Wouldn't it have been better to release this alongside the release of the Italian cruisers?
@mrtencza
4 жыл бұрын
I like my Venezia! She's very strong in CB, SAP will melt a Stalingrad at range.
@ZRTW-lt2rt
4 жыл бұрын
how do u get a colored shoot trace ?
@TheGreatBoomy25
4 жыл бұрын
OR, use Expert Loader and fire AP like a good player would to a broadside ship.
@Jaydabblju
4 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid I dont understand the calculation in this video. Venezia has got 203mm shells. When I divide this by 14.3 I get a result of 14mm (203mm / 14.3 = 14mm). This Armor thickness can be penetrated by Venezia. Every Armor of Yamato if much thicker than 14mm. So how can it penetrate the 32mm bow armor of Yamato? I would be very happy if someone would explain this to me.
@eMercody
4 жыл бұрын
That is the value for overmatching
@Jaydabblju
4 жыл бұрын
Yes I see. I watched the video four times and now I got it :-)
@VictoriaLouise1
4 жыл бұрын
In the end we all need the RNGesus
@TeensierPython
4 жыл бұрын
So how do the British light cruiser shells work?
@tetragon2137
4 жыл бұрын
Normal AP rules, but with slightly different parameters. For instance, the ricochet angle is smaller than normal; instead of having a chance to ricochet at 45 degrees going to a guaranteed ricochet at 30, RN CL AP *starts* at 30 degrees and guarantees at 15. This means that your shells are less likely to bounce, and will instead go through the penetration checks. The fusing parameter is reduced; I don't know the numbers, but RN CL AP doesn't need as much armour to arm the fuse. This results in fewer overpens, even when shooting at BB superstructures. The fuse timer is shorter. The shell detonates in half the time, once again meaning fewer overpens.
@christoperantoniojohan7562
4 жыл бұрын
When submarine?
@Gibson2705
4 жыл бұрын
SAP Shell = Superior Armor Piercing Shell. No shatter, no bounce, no recochet, no overpen.
@gigatom4681
4 жыл бұрын
4:32 how can I get into this view? I searched in the settings but could‘nt find it 😕
@arandomfinnin1941
4 жыл бұрын
Press Z
@calvincanada4723
4 жыл бұрын
bro image hop many sentrys you can SAP with those guns
@sohanmunaweera9201
2 жыл бұрын
How to get sap for Napoli in main barrel
@Liberty-Rogue
4 жыл бұрын
ramming up next pls!
@fabiospasiano9885
4 жыл бұрын
Ok world of warships, only for Italian guns, but, can we have the rest of the Italian navy?
@junyutan2172
4 жыл бұрын
Basically ap for hitting destroyers then. Of course better angled pen
@HeIsAnAli
4 жыл бұрын
In other words, AP that can -smash loliboats- *_DO YOU WANT THE MILITARY POLICE ON YOUR ASS?! BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU GET THE MILITARY POLICE ON YOUR ASS!_*
@xekledo
4 жыл бұрын
Okay , i love this game but isn't it abit too late to launch this video? i mean, havent Italian Cruisers been around for a while now? :)
@murderouskitten2577
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah , we already learned anything we needed in google :D you are bit too late guys. like - this was needed last year :D
@kuninagako9035
4 жыл бұрын
Wow this is late. And can we get bbs driving shells or a fix to the problem of over pens i over pened a tir 10 russian BB armor belt form 15km i was in a yamato how does that make sense
@faroria6054
4 жыл бұрын
Well overpen are actually quite standard in naval warfare especially when you think about the layout of armour during the 40s
@themaster-nz8ri
4 жыл бұрын
Only italian ships haves the sap shells??
@tetragon2137
4 жыл бұрын
Yes. It's the Italian Cruisers' signature feature.
@LackeysLack
4 жыл бұрын
Well, there's also their exhaust smoke generators that let them emit smoke and grants them concealment while running at full speed. That's also unique to Italian cruisers.
@thegrayseed2792
4 жыл бұрын
Remember when SAP uses the same ricochet value as the typical AP on the release of Italian Cruisers before they change it to use UK's AP ricochet value?
@oceanphantom7477
4 жыл бұрын
Add those things to wows blitz,we also exist not just PC players
@JohnPaul_kun
4 жыл бұрын
mamma mia that's a spicy meatball
@omerbkcgl
4 жыл бұрын
can you make an episode about how carriers are in balance with rocket squads? or capability of sinking AA cruisers without losing a single squad? if you gonna insist on carrier rework is fine when will you bring back our removed operations? what happened to night battle idea?...
@azarashiarion7619
4 жыл бұрын
Ppl today target anything they can shoot rather than who is worthy for them
@warduck5120
4 жыл бұрын
So basically it's APHE
@spedon2wheels267
4 жыл бұрын
So this is basically a cruiser that hunts for destroyers
@badcheeseypandal4126
4 жыл бұрын
Can y’all put aircraft carriers on the X box and submarines. I really want to play with those ships and I just don’t see it. I don’t have a computer to play on bc my mom and dad use them for their jobs and bills
@errornamenotfound2513
4 жыл бұрын
Is it a bit late to post this?
@alamkhater7652
4 жыл бұрын
A quand les sous-titres en français ????
@xx360pwnagexx3
4 жыл бұрын
So, to put into world of tanks terms, it’s hesh?
@matthewcheung8960
4 жыл бұрын
Basically APHE Shells
@x_zao8150
2 жыл бұрын
At first i thought it stands for "Super Armor Piercing"
@weallcandoit
4 жыл бұрын
1:45 the shape of the shell looks a bit odd...
@southronjr1570
4 жыл бұрын
So it's HESH for ships
@AceMadefake
4 жыл бұрын
There was once I made 10 penetrations with sap shells but no damage at all
@PhanchaiSiam555
3 жыл бұрын
01:38 what? Lepanto have 381mm. 381mm:14,3= 26mm. Sounds not right for me
@sctm81
3 жыл бұрын
Is there any historical significance to this type of ammunition?
@CaptainGrief66
2 жыл бұрын
The Italians used them widely, nobody else did in any significant quantities as far as I know
@sctm81
2 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainGrief66 so it was an actual thing and not just made up by WG.
@hailitalia86
4 жыл бұрын
Ok this makes no sense. I am taking the exact same shots at Yammy in training room and am lucky to get 5 pens, sometimes get nothing but ricochets. Now there is a flat part at the very tip, high, on all the BBs and I can get a ton of pens if I aim there. Same thing with heavy cruisers bow on, minus the flat part. So this whole 54mm of pen regardless of angle is incorrect.
@weirdunknownperson2916
4 жыл бұрын
*SPAH SAP-PING MY WARSHIP*
@wwuunngg
4 жыл бұрын
Armor explosive shells
@eroticide16
4 жыл бұрын
How to use SAP is to load said shells onto a spaghetti boat surrounded by thinner armor than the Russian ships and call it the Italian cruiser and the give it the only thing that has better chance of surviving than the ship itself lol because 9 times out ten the shells will penetrate and have a nice blanket of armor around then the ship it came from lol
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