23 years of doing architectural renderings, every now and then a client wants to print a billboard and asks for a 600 ppi image, even when I explain that you need less than 100 most think I am talking sci fi. This video is now in my arsenal to send to these clients. Thank you for making it.
@Danialdaneshmand
6 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@ArchimedSTUDIO
6 жыл бұрын
ME TOO!!! LOL
@MelbourneArchviz
6 жыл бұрын
Jaw dropping!!! I believe you 100%
@joshmdmd
6 жыл бұрын
You're forgetting those billboards are installed on-site where viewing distance can be two feet from the billboard (pedestrians on the sidewalk or potential buyers in a demo house - both of which are wall installations). Poor resolution reflects on the company. Can you trust a company that can't print a poster to build your apartment or house?
@silverfeathered1
6 жыл бұрын
50mpx for a cover sounds fair. Hell, if a 1000mpx are available, give me that. Final artist doesn't care about initial artist's feelings on the matter. I might only decide to use the ribbon on the dress from that full body shot. Your 10mpx aren't going to cut it. When I purchase a graphic asset, I might use that same image for a dozen more reasons, or on various media. 50mpx is not at all much to ask for from a "professional". In these days where large 4k screens that are hanging on store walls to advertise an item are becoming the norm, can you really say your 2mpx DSLR will do the job? Go ahead, do that equation. How many ppi are needed in the original full subject plus background to zoom into just an eye that will be viewed at half a meter for a magazine cover. Then also displayed on 4k+ monitors 3 meters tall?
@WarpedYT
6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, you explained this so well, not many people know this. My friend uses his Phase one 80MP for full page magazine ads and usually uses his Canon Mark V for the billboards, opposite of what everyone expects.
@robbie154
3 жыл бұрын
That 80mp is still overkill for a magazine size. Like way overkill
@aaroncollins5188
3 жыл бұрын
@@robbie154 Overkill as a final resolution for the magazine, sure. Having lots of resolution is still useful with editing and retouching, etc and in the commercial world there's no such thing as too much resolution for working files. To a point anyway 😁
@TheNorthPace
6 жыл бұрын
So many photographers big on social sites have been saying it's not about the gear but then start bragging about their latest gear. This is the first and most compelling video of why the creativity, composition, content, and craft matter so much more. Absolutely BRILLIANT vlog and so insightful. Thank you.
@MDRFoto
6 жыл бұрын
I've been saying this for years. I remember the first billboard I had go up with a digital camera was the Canon 10D which was a 6.3 MP camera and that advertisement was glorious!
@malonecustomdesigns
6 жыл бұрын
MDR Foto do you still have your 10D? I do :)
@maxim8388
6 жыл бұрын
I've made a 3 by 6 meters billboard with old Nikon D70 (6Mp) about 10 years ago. It was re-printed 3 years ago only because of the colors became not that bright. Otherwise it is still there))
@norgepalm7315
6 жыл бұрын
I took a picture of my asshole with an old kick-start oil mirror dioscilator, about 2mb
@MDRFoto
6 жыл бұрын
I wish I still had the 10D , butit died a few years ago. It was a fantastic camera
@mcearl8073
6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I have an old Nikon d40, I think it’s right around 5mp and the pictures it takes are still better than lots of inexpensive cameras with 3-4 times the MP. It’s certainly not professional gear, nor am I a professional photographer but I’m sure a skilled photographer could take nice shots with it with a nice lens and the average joe would have no idea it’s an old 5mp camera.
@chungdha
6 жыл бұрын
Most billboard designs I have done are in 72 or 96dpi, as 300dpi often result in gigantic files the printing company can't handle, often they still have a very old computer with old version of windows or mac running the printers. As for posters could do int 150dpi or 300dpi, but have to say I won a poster award with grabbing frames from the movie which is in 1080p (close to 2mp) and enable to still get enough resolutions from it. Honestly have not seen a real situation yet where 100mp is really required, unless specific plan to timelapse with zooming into sections of the shot to follow moving subjects.
@SchardtCinematic
3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious electronic billboards obviously have use lights to create thier images. What is the average resolution of electronic billboards?
@lanceevans1689
2 жыл бұрын
@@SchardtCinematic Many large ones are fairly low res. The "dots"/lights are large and not very close. Which is fine if the viewer is 500+ feet away.
@MarkDuffyPhotography
6 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody says it. I'm a graphic designer over 7 years and got into photography 2 years ago and I've seen the size of some of the images we've used in the past at work to produce billboards with. One company quoted us to only needing an image at 150dpi. I have to say I rarely ever hear the term ppi, as when dealing with printers, they're only concerned with dpi. Great video as always lads! This also added to my reasoning of switching from Canon 6D to Fuji XT2, no regrets on that switch, loving the Fuji system.
@coreymach_
6 жыл бұрын
My favorite camera ever!
@KinuGrove
6 жыл бұрын
Got XT1 and love it.
@bigxheadx84
6 жыл бұрын
But...but...its Canon!Has to be the best, right? j/k nice call on switching to Fuji! Now just switch to Sony and you will be even better : )
@mravecsk1
6 жыл бұрын
6D is still very good camera...
@wt_heck
5 жыл бұрын
I do Prepress for large format printing and we use a minimum of 100dpi, not only because of the viewing factor but also try telling a printer to RIP a 30ft banner at 300 dpi, it might not even render.
@robertvralph
6 жыл бұрын
I used to work for Tanger Outlets, we did all our billboards at 100dpi. That said, we would also do slate board style walkup ads in the centers, usually on plinths or in POPs. Those things needed to be 300dpi, and the resolution needed to be huge. I'm talking about upscaling an 18mp image four times. With final filesizes on the order of gigabytes.
@FStoppers
6 жыл бұрын
Robert Ralph ppi not dpi ;)
@SterlingSanders
6 жыл бұрын
High MP is not for billboards, it’s for large format prints seen up close, in galleries, on large posters (bus stops for instance), and other OOH placements that put you within 10 ft. Billboards, the ones you see on highways barely have a resolution of 50dpi, because you’re seeing them from hundreds of feet away.
@SterlingSanders
6 жыл бұрын
Fstoppers Lol, commented after the introduction, guess I should have watched the video first, you explained it well.
@Samtagri
6 жыл бұрын
Sterling Sanders it is PPI, not DPI. you missed the difference explained in the video. The percentage of photographers having their work shown as you described is quite small.
@SterlingSanders
6 жыл бұрын
Samtagri No. My comment was specifically talking about what Out of Home (OOH) printers set for large scale prints, 45-60 DPI on average. I'm discussing DPI because it does have an effect on the print output. While DPI is primarily the printers domain, they will discuss with you viewing location and distance because a higher DPI produces better image tonality and smoother color blending, but also costs more because it uses more ink. PPI alone is not a determination of quality or clarity, it is a determination of resolution scale, that scale mixed the actual resolution (MP) of your photo, the viewing distance and the DPI of the print together are what determines quality and clarity. As for the "small percentage," you speak of, every Advertising Art Director I know has dealt with this, photographers and designers alike. If you live in a city, you see many large scale up close images on a regular basis, all of those were photographed, designed and printed by people. There are hundreds of thousands of people worldwide that work this on a regular basis.
@RayValdezPhotography
6 жыл бұрын
high mp is for close viewing on large surfaces and cropping.
@Sicaine
6 жыл бұрын
Its not true. High MP is there for having real estate. With High MP you can crop without loosing much of resolution because you have so much. This makes it much easier to fix stuff. Also you do see high MP on High Resolution Displays
@Loopsrainforest
6 жыл бұрын
Spend money on lenses not megapixels.
@CrashPCcz
6 жыл бұрын
The geg is, that sensor resolution is relatively cheap, while lens reach is bloody heavy and expensive. Anybody doing reach photography or macro photography gains from higher resolution sensor, because you have to crop a lot. Then You might end up with those 2-4Mpx...
@tennicktenstyl
6 жыл бұрын
Spend money on weed
@Loopsrainforest
6 жыл бұрын
Bartosz Olszewski No! Grow weed & sell it to buy more lenses!
@Natorisama
6 жыл бұрын
Orrrrr… You can just buy old “enlarger lens”, for 5-150$, since in macro you don’t actually need auto focusing. And any “Industar-52” for two bucks can squeeze the shit out of most modern sensors. ^^
@CrashPCcz
6 жыл бұрын
Natorisama that will not work in many cases, and it's one more thing to fiddle and carry. Not convenient.
@AdventuresinFabrication
6 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I disagree, it's still a valid excuse until my wife watches this video
@jasonbodden8816
6 жыл бұрын
LOL. This made me chuckle!
@aiperm
6 жыл бұрын
5 years ago before I was married, I thought wife jokes are hilarious. It has now become very real
@Eagle1349
6 жыл бұрын
Good answer adventure Lol
@alikourproductionsllc1444
6 жыл бұрын
lol
@iwaswithyourmom9410
6 жыл бұрын
Need ZUHD (16K)
@ZadieBear
6 жыл бұрын
9 Years ago I took a photo class with 6 other photographers. I had a simple Rebel XTi, the others had high resolution monsters with lots of L glass (or the Nikon equivalent). About half way through the teacher talked about shooting models for billboards on a 2MP camera and still seeing the images today (in 2009) on billboards. For the next 20 minutes he talked about how MP don't matter....he made these other photographers really uncomfortable. As a newbie to digital, it was glorious! haha
@FStoppers
6 жыл бұрын
Read the full article here: fstoppers.com/originals/how-many-megapixels-do-you-need-print-billboard-220239
@tendojoe
6 жыл бұрын
That billboard was printed from a 24.5”w x 7.5”h, 300dpi, CMYK file (without bleed, 15.12 MP). The artwork is a composite of several images, and the photo of the girl in the adirondack chair was taken with an iPhone. Layered photoshop files usually get sent to the billboard printer, so vector text prints a little cleaner than the raster layers, and the printed vinyl ends up being about 12.5 ppi (before any upsampling is done in the print software). I share an office with the creative team, AMA.
@DanteVelasquez
6 жыл бұрын
Love it ... dispelling the myths. I have met so many photographers that insist they must use the most expensive of everything and the highest resolution of everything. I always knew that was actually a cover for lack of skill or the fear of the lack of skill.
@trondhelgehie6771
6 жыл бұрын
Dante Velasquez hehe give me cheap equipment and expensive equipment an I will produce good stuff with both, but I now for larger print you will prefer the more expensive. But the lens, light and skills is the most important!
@RyanREAX
6 жыл бұрын
sad but true..im guilty..but oh well.. a7r3 :)
@Thakko
6 жыл бұрын
true!
@kardnails8729
6 жыл бұрын
Lenses... Now that´s a different story.
@Blox117
6 жыл бұрын
no, they are just stupid. just like people think apple computers cost more so they must be better LOL
@MRBraveheartscot
6 жыл бұрын
My favorite prints and images for that matter were shot on a Nikon D70 ( 6 mp ) , i now have a D750 and yes I love the bells and whistles but dont get caught up in all that malarky. Get out there and start taking pics!
@tjmperez
6 жыл бұрын
I love how unbiased this channel is and Lee and Patrick are with stuff!
@seantuck
6 жыл бұрын
Myth busted!
@mykantipurhome
6 жыл бұрын
Hey... love your vids too. thanks for making them
@susheeltm
6 жыл бұрын
Such videos are a great value addition to aspiring photographers who otherwise get misled by stores. Thanks.
@luanmaia
6 жыл бұрын
Resolution can make all the difference. The final work can be low-res but you will need that extra resolution for layout, cropping , etc. any modification/transformation you do, megapixel matters.
@agro0
6 жыл бұрын
well, only if you don't know what you need. It's handy, but not necessary with good planning.
@datdudenosense
6 жыл бұрын
luan maia.....yeah stupid, he said that.
@unabashedindividualist6232
6 жыл бұрын
Most standard format billboards start life as a 10 or so Inch wide art board in illustrator. I know this because I am a graphic designer and I make billboards for archaic dinosaur clients from time to time.
@EthanSoule
5 жыл бұрын
@@agro0 Good planning doesn't guarantee you'll get as close to a snow leopard as you want.
@Lauren_C
5 жыл бұрын
@@agro0 While I prefer to get the composition spot on, as cropping wastes some of my camera's capability, there are times I have no choice but to crop. Shooting wide on my compact, for example, produces very soft corners (as the lens doesn't cover the entire sensor at it's widest), so I crop to sidestep this side effect. For "Macro" shooting, I've little choice but to crop in as I lose a lot of minimum focus distance when zoomed in.
@Ranstone
6 жыл бұрын
The only reason I personally like high resolution is green screening. It really REALLY helps.
@MrDfansler
6 жыл бұрын
I have been in the sign and grand format printing industry for 20 years and have been trying to explain this to potential customers for at least that long. Nice Job!
@johncicchine7566
6 жыл бұрын
I shoot with a D3 and D800e. After watching this video my D3 just gained a few more years of life. My D800e maybe another decade. But yes it's nice to have that extra resolution when you really need it. Great video!!!
@claybutler
6 жыл бұрын
Best explanation of pixels/DPI/viewing distance ever!
@dimitristsakiris820
6 жыл бұрын
I bought a nikon D3s wich is 12MP "only" and the workflow of the files is amazing,also the need of space is minimal,12MP is enough for most things!
@TheBroketographers
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent point about viewing distance with prints -- many definitely forget about that (very) important point.
@Gmon750
5 жыл бұрын
A great description. The only reason I can see for high-megapixel cameras is for cropping. Simply put, if for whatever reason one was not able to fully utilize the entire frame for a shot, a high-megapixel camera will still provide plenty of resolution for just that. For everything else... such a high MP count is ridiculous, but memory and storage manufacturers love them!
@eustacequinlank7418
6 жыл бұрын
In galleries I always peek up close, not just with photographs, but with paintings. I love looking at something like a Francis Bacon or Lucien Freud painting and looking at the brushwork. One of the reasons I also shoot with film is is the visual texture of the grain in certain film stocks some simply see this as an undesirable flaw, I don't at all. I love the clarity of higher end digital prints and think they're amazing, but I love silver gelatin and ilfochrome done traditionally as equally if not more. These are not techniques and practices that should not be lost and I dislike the attitude that *sometimes* comes along with early adopters that newer is automatically better. I love new tech and more megapixels, but throwing certain things under the bus is a grave mistake. There's 35mm stock out there you theoretically can blow up to nearly 3.5 meters wide and not see any "horrible" grain (ADOX CMS 20). Though no low light for that stuff. P.s before anyone says you can imitate film in digital post, you can't. When I see a 'pushed' or 'pulled' image done with a preset say in VSCO all it looks like they've done is alter the contrast and saturation to get an approximation. Why would I take one medium, say like a water colour, scan it and then make it look like an oil painting in Photoshop filter because I changed my mind or something. Plus, it's cheap.
@OspreyKnight
6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love my film, I don't do enough of it or enough traditional printing with digital negatives. Got to say I love knowing a thing about printers, people go crazy over a pixel, but if you tell the printer to spread the dots out it gives a similar effect as film grain. People seem to accept it better because its a dot instead of a square. Still, there's nothing like silver.
@MichaelZieschang
5 жыл бұрын
Buy film not megapixel. 100% agree.
@quaesitorveritatis777
2 жыл бұрын
Adox cms 20 ii is absurd
@brentdrafts2290
6 жыл бұрын
I remember in my dad's business, when I was a kid in the 70s, the company would receive billboard materials for products the we sold. The dots were like an inch of so in diameter and quite a lot of white space around. When standing way back the dots would converge.
@OutOfCuriosity
6 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. There are certainly some reasons for high resolution but i agree, in most cases its not needed. As a relativly poor and unexperienced photographer like me, its nice to be able to crop afterwards.
@Blockbuster2033
6 жыл бұрын
OutOfCuriosity well, as a photographer who shot on 24mp for six or so years I can say that 24mp is plenty for cropping. I shoot lots of events where one sometimes doesn't have time to change lenses and its nice to be able to crop, but I almost never crop more than 2x and that would still give me 6mp, which is still plenty for doing prints and web-based stuff, just no posters, but when I shoot posters I mostly have enough time to set up my shot so I don't need to crop. I will probably keep shooting on 24mp for the next six years to come because it's just the perfect balance between resolution and file-size.
@goksel5012
6 жыл бұрын
What I really like on this channel is, that you just show that it is photography! doesn't depend if you have an expensive gear. thx :-D
@EDCGadgets
6 жыл бұрын
I just printed a 10 feet by 6 feet photo for an exhibition, using a "cheapo" APS-C Fuji X-T20 with 24 Mpix, and I can say, the results look jaw dropping, even when I examine the details from 1 feet. (Yes I was using that incredible 56mm 1.2 lens at f5.6 when I took the photo for maximum sharpness, but it's a different story)
@LeeZavitz
6 жыл бұрын
I’ve been saying this forever. I always bring up the fact that people were printing billboards with the 5D classic 13years ago. And even on older cameras back when digital went full frame and everyone was stoked.
@wgracey
6 жыл бұрын
Nice to have this resolution issue spelled out. Years ago I took a picture with my 6 MP camera and printed a 20 inch x 30 inch picture that I framed and hung in our house. The resolution looks great at the distance we view it from. Thanks for doing the math on this.
@webosm6494
6 жыл бұрын
I learned this when i had the privilege to talk to Ralph McQuarrie about his matte paintings that he made for the Star Wars movies. I asked how he could make those paintings so live like and sharp on such a huge screen like used in Imax theaters. The answer was similar, if it looks sharp at 2-3ft it will look just as sharp on a huge screen with the appropriate distance. With matte paintings light is very important and painting those highlights are made easier by this effect as your eyes and brain will add details where there is none. I have noticed with cameras that are older and have lower resolution that they are able to catch more light as the individual 'pixels' that catch the light are much larger. More resolution is not always an advantage and lower resolutions can be used effectively in certain scenarios.
@atxrich
6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Even further justified why I just re-purchased a D700 :-)
@dtmateo
6 жыл бұрын
easily one of the best cameras out there. love mine. all you need is 8mp. really.
@cpt_nordbart
6 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of those video screens from those musicians these days. If you see them up close it's just some green, blue and red dots. But from far away you actually see your idol performing. So, even there you don't need like 800kp resolution. (Which there are probably no cameras capable of anyway)
@fivepin55
6 жыл бұрын
I work at Daktronics in South Dakota. We manufacture displays for all sorts of venues from large advertisements to the largest NFL display (Atlanta Falcons Halo Display). The Falcons display pixel is 3 LEDs in RGB at approximately 1cm apart. From the stands the display looks like it is in HD. You should take a tour of the Brookings SD plant if you get a chance.
@JamesThePierce
6 жыл бұрын
More MP also means more cropping without significant resolution loss and makes editing easier
@montazownianr1
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and more noise.
@TinoPetersson
6 жыл бұрын
"Most of the DSLR's has over 50MP" - uhm.. No.
@hexium_
6 жыл бұрын
Tino Petersson Most PROFESSIONAL DSLR’s are over 50 MP.
@raven6720
6 жыл бұрын
still aint true mate
@TinoPetersson
6 жыл бұрын
Hexium Please enlighten me. Which typical proffesional DSLR's has +50MP :)? I currently own both the Sony A7RIII (42.4MP) and the Canon 1DX MK 2 (20.2MP). And I would catergorize these models as pretty proffesional DSLR's. What did I miss?
@raven6720
6 жыл бұрын
The eos 5ds is the only one i'm aware of, and that's like 50.6 mp so not even that much higher
@TinoPetersson
6 жыл бұрын
I agree, but apparently our friend Hexium knows something we don't, so I can't wait to see his reply!
@kickpublishing
6 жыл бұрын
For all our website and graphic design photography we still use a trusty old Canon 30D - and we STILL need to compress the files sometimes. Takes amazing pictures and they are £50 in mint used condition.
@AndreAmirLive
6 жыл бұрын
The old school print megapxl wars (and I neeed it for billboard argument) were over 10years ago. The new megapxl war is about use in digital multi-media, downloads, big screens, zooming & cropping, 4k photo/video, etc.... Who buys a $4000 camera in 2018 only for print work? Hey, but I love you guys and this is really good to know.
@borderlands6606
6 жыл бұрын
It's the difference between creative photography and digital data gathering. Creative photography demands no great fidelity, but lots of ingenuity. Digital data gathering is a technical exercise in which the viewer enlarges an image 400%, looks into the corners and declares the photograph inadequate. It's an interesting exercise but has nothing to do with an emotional response to an image. Which is what photography is all about.
@AndreAmirLive
6 жыл бұрын
Borderlands The statement "what photography is all about" is totally subjective. We are over 20 years into the digital era. Love it, leave it, or get left. Keep living in "the good old days" and see where that get you.
@borderlands6606
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, photography is totally subjective. The exceptions are surveillance, medical, astronomy, and similar technical media. A 4k monitor is 8mp. A 24 mp sensor covers any current commercial format. Most photographers are not professional (let's say fewer than 1% of people reading this), and of those professionals very few exhaust the capacity of a 50mp camera and even fewer have the lenses to resolve it. So to conclude, almost nobody reading this needs the resolution of a current professional digital camera, and none require one to pursue photography as a creative medium.
@AndreAmirLive
6 жыл бұрын
Borderlands good point
@Ax-Easy
6 жыл бұрын
This is why I just purchased a D3 having already D700, D300s and D200 :D Thanks for confirming this guys. Less MP > less disk space > less backup space > faster sharing > All good in my book. Cheers!
6 жыл бұрын
Great point for billboards. Personally I like to get closer to poster-size pictures. Then I could see the pixels.
@TimothyWestPhotography
6 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, fabulous explanation 👍💡
@aletoledo1
6 жыл бұрын
I wish I could upvote this twice
@Outlast1965
6 жыл бұрын
That's the reason why its easier, and faster work flow with less strain on my laptop nef files from my D700 than D800. Thank you Lee for sharing this; a validation of practical megapixel requirement.
@gazdyer2732
6 жыл бұрын
Great video , there is only one reason for high mp count , you said it cropping ,other than that its just chasing perceived progress , many thanks
@MorRobots
6 жыл бұрын
High resolutions are not so much for the final products unless having the ability to crop really maters to you. Higher resolutions are important when doing image post processing as they provide much more data to those processes and helps with different corrections.
@AndrewFrost
6 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered about this. Thx for making this in-depth video. Was worth the watch!
@danroitner230
6 жыл бұрын
Bang ON! -, endless HD filling up with gigs of oversized photos. Even phone cameras are oversized in megapixels. Great photo taking, good glass and less compression are more important. Most of the pix displayed are screen res and that is around 1 MB. Save your money.
@SloppyPastrami
5 жыл бұрын
When I started as a digital tech we were using 6mp digital backs for billboards and no one seemed to care. The biggest excuse I've heard for buying a 100mp back is that you could shoot a full length shot and crop out a portrait if your client needed it.
@Seaton007
6 жыл бұрын
This is really good information to know! I have heard that excuse before and wondered how valid it really was.
@ClaudioHidalgo
6 жыл бұрын
very good... and old: it's known since the times cameras had 2 megapixels 😜
@floatingrabbit3556
6 жыл бұрын
A little late to the party but this is so true. I have blown out 8mp pictures from my samsung phone to a1 size canvas and they look stunning AF. I really don't know why pixel peepers go off their gun about having the latest biggest sensor available. Thanks for this video.
@BrianIrwin
6 жыл бұрын
Please tell me that before you threw away the billboard you measured the actual pixels? As you scooted down the #4 with your finger it looked like maybe 4-5PPI? That way you can compare the viewing distance numbers with how it was actually printed. I have seen other people make the argument about viewing distance, but bravo for actually getting that print, well played.
@randysmith6493
6 жыл бұрын
Trufully, sensors use three photosites to make up pixel data value that build up an image. Your computer screen even displays R,G,B diode colors to build a pixel data value projection. Surely your client wants what your client wants. Then there is discussion about texture, your eye at distance may not be able to resolve details at a given limit, but the ability to discern texture in those pixels extends beyond resolution. I can’t resolve the blades of grass looking at a still shot of the video post, but the blades of real grass compared to the posture do reveal texture. Even your jeans that you ware at distance to my view reveal a quality different then the plastic poster material, neither of which can I resolve with the eye. There is something to be said about large photosites compared to small ones with regards to noise and color depth. 🙏
@NBF27
5 жыл бұрын
When I ran the FujiFilm Mini Lab at work, we printed about 350 DPI. We did this so it was just a little better than needed for the eye. It worked out about 2.8mp for a 6x4 image.
@LucasJohnsonVisuals
6 жыл бұрын
I have a couple images circulating on some digital billboards and was curious why they wanted me to size them down so small! Very interesting stuff 🤘🏻
@swaygfx
6 жыл бұрын
Nice, I learnt this a while ago.. the bigger the print the less resolution needed. the smaller , the more is resolution required ! Learn this guys !
@josephberkeley
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm doing a bit of research because I'm about to shoot a billboard. Looks like my 5D mark iv is more than up for the task. Thanks for this quality information. I've taken a couple of courses from Fstoppers and thus far education is my best return on investment, far better than any piece of gear.
@jorgeanthony878
6 жыл бұрын
*most professional DSLRs these days are over 50 Megapixels* Um.... Not true at all
@anselmomantovani9908
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro, very good, and handy ...simple to the point, for dummies like me...bless you.
@RomboutVersluijs
6 жыл бұрын
Using PPI on display is confusing, especially with retina display which use pixel doubling. There is however a nice feature where you can preview real print dimenions on screen. Set the screen resolution under general settings. In order to get the correct number, divide your display resolution by the width of the display in inch
@happycat0411
4 жыл бұрын
Even if you need more pixels you can always tweak the pixel density using Photoshop or any Photo tool with a few clicks of the mouse.
@tokyoinpics9346
6 жыл бұрын
A good common sense video! Nicely made and explained, but I still want my Fujifilm GFX50!!
@AdrianBacon
2 жыл бұрын
My general rule of thumb is to acquire at least 4x the resolution of the required output resolution. So, for 2-3MP output (which covers 90%+ of uses) acquire at 8-12MP. This accounts for the fact that modern bayer array cameras aren't capturing full RGB at the sensor resolution. My general practice is to take the raw capture and reduce by 50% for retouching, then reduce by 50% again for digital delivery, so for a modern camera (like The EOS R5), raw capture is 8192x5462 into Adobe LR, do basic exposure, WB, Contrast, Saturation, from there export a 16 bit TIFF at 4096x2730 for retouching in PS, then from there, deliver a maximum of 2048x1366, rarely deliver the 4096x2730 image. Full HD resolution looks fine at pretty much every print size, and on pretty much every display, especially when it's super sharp because it was originally acquired at a much higher resolution. You don't need 45+MP to capture at though. As long as you're capturing at least 8-12MP, Full HD output resolution is totally fine.
@davidmelo76
6 жыл бұрын
You made my day! Great piece of information! Thank you so much!
@starbase218
6 жыл бұрын
Good one. And it goes even further when it comes to things like pixel shift technology (e.g. from Pentax, Sony and Olympus). With a Pentax K-1, you already have 36MP without an AA-filter. Pixel shift takes 4 exposures so you have to be on a tripod and if there's any movement in the image, you're going to have to process it with Pentax's own software. Taking images this way just seems a very nerdy thing to do. But they might sell more cameras this way.
@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I'm getting tired of constantly hearing "You don't *Need* that resolution unless you're printing BILLBOARDS!" etc. Usually in response to them not wanting to buy a medium format camera or judging you for wanting to spend your money. Everybody's so quick to tell you what you don't *Need* as if pixels are the only benefits, forgetting the massive dynamic range improvements, recoverable shadow details, increased tonal range, smoother gradients, less false color, increased sensor sharpness, fewer lens flaws, less noise, more detail, etc. Feel free to stay ignorant, people. Just don't tell me what I should do with *MY* money.
@imkirbo3094
6 жыл бұрын
Tbh I've never known a pro photographer claim they need high megapixels for billboards, advertising in general yes, because there's plenty of big adverts that are at ground level, those are the ones that require 50MP+ as people can go and stand right in front of them. At the end of the day a photographer doesn't think about whether they need high megapixel count or not when buying a camera, they just tally that into the many things to think about when comparing potential products. As you already said, the main advantage to higher MP is the ability to crop the image in more in post which is a very common thing to do, so they're probably not really thinking about how big they can blow the image up, they, like the rest of the world, just counts it as an advantage if the camera they're interested in has a higher MP count than another camera.
@TheFilmLook
6 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! Puts it all into perspective.
@RodneyGardner
6 жыл бұрын
Also should be noted that the advances in printer technologies are allowing for larger and larger prints while getting the same image quality. Combine that with the huge megapixel count of some dslr's and the limits are only paper size...
@acoffeewithsatan
6 жыл бұрын
Usually, it's ideal to work with an image twice the resolution the final product needs to be. If you add text, put multiple pictures together and so on, when you scale it down it'll look sharper.
@scottyvanderford
6 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of PPI and DPI and overall great video! However the opening statement of "Most professional DSLR's are over 50 Mega pixels" just isn't true. The Canon 5DS and 5DS R barely reach over that at 50.6MP. Anything over 50 starts getting into medium format.
@SterlingSanders
6 жыл бұрын
Two things not mentioned in this video: Down sampling a high MP images end in better quality than taking the same picture with lower MP camera; and the diversity of executions you have with a high MP image are much more considerable. As someone who works in advertising, the usage options for using a singular execution in a wide variety of contexts (near-field OOH, far-field OOH, various digital context) is much more important. There has never been a time when I've received a file as thought, "oh no, the resolution is to high," but I have thought the reverse. The more resolution the better imo. As a photographer higher MP is worth it for the cropping ability-while maintaining visual quality-alone.
@bernios3446
6 жыл бұрын
Great video, great message!!! Resolution is probably the single most overrated parameter in modern cameras. My lower end camera, a 4yo Fuji X camera, has 16MP. Way enough...
@jeffharper6259
6 жыл бұрын
The video and many of the comments are only discussing one reason for high resolution (print size) and if looked at objectively, one can find several reasons for wanting more pixels than absolutely necessary. Here just two reasons I like high resolution images: if my composition is less than perfect I can freely crop half of my photo away and still have good resolution for large prints and what about zooming in on a photo (different kind of crop) such as a shot of the moon or a small bird photo.
@kakegarcia8056
6 жыл бұрын
Looooooveeee this video.Hi from Venezuela!
@sotosxboxakias
6 жыл бұрын
I loved the way you ripped that billoboard at the end. hahaha
@AtomicArcherGuy
6 жыл бұрын
One word. Astrophotography. You want more pixels so you can get higher resolution images of extremely faint and distant objects. If your sensor has more pixels, you can crop deeper after the fact and will be able to pull a lot more information from your image. That’s why I’m able to get a recognizable image of Bode’s galaxy with a 50mm f1.8 lens and an APS-C sensor camera body. Also the cigar galaxy in the same shot.
@philcampbell5827
6 жыл бұрын
Just like wanting a car that can go 300/kmh when you'll never be able to drive it that fast anyways. Great video and very well explained!
@lazygent
6 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm from Germany. What do you mean by saying "never be able to drive it that fast"? ;-)
@Kyle17206
6 жыл бұрын
Phil Campbell you might not ever drive that fast lol
@marcd7332
4 жыл бұрын
Godfrey Jemand Hp is completely relative
@harrisonbarden6876
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always, good to know for future printing thanks!
@DevonWayne
6 жыл бұрын
I rented a Canon 5D Mark III, 6 years ago to do a billboard. It came out AMAZING. I thought, at the time, that it wouldn't be enough PPI/DPI. I agree with the conclusion here, because since then I've learned more about how light and depth and angle drop off. The human's eye and perception is good, but it's not AMAZING.
@andriup
6 жыл бұрын
Magnificent explanation!
@willmhtz
6 жыл бұрын
As much as I agree with this video as well as the article, there is no mention of the actual dpi and ppi of the billboard in the video! Given your calculations of 4ppi, it is clearly visible in the video, that this billboard is printed at a much higher resolution. I am really interested to find out what ACTUAL billboards resolution are in addition to the calculations. (It may be that this billboard was printed much higher than necessary, but would be good to know.)
@agro0
6 жыл бұрын
Well, printing at high DPI doesn't ad much to the cost, so why not (although it doesn't do anything). The PPI of the billboard were also higher in the billboard shown in the video, simply because the camera's relosution allowed it. But the point he's trying to make is that you could have went down even further to 4ppi and it would have been fine.
@tendojoe
6 жыл бұрын
That billboard was printed from a 24.5”w x 7.5”h, 300dpi, CMYK file (without bleed, 15.12 MP). The artwork is a composite of several images, and the photo of the girl in the adirondack chair was taken with an iPhone. Layered photoshop files usually get sent to the billboard printer, so vector text prints a little cleaner than the raster layers, and the printed vinyl ends up being about 12.5 ppi (before any upsampling is done in the print software). I share an office with the creative team, AMA.
@gwoyang
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and explanation!
@LowLightVideos
5 жыл бұрын
4:50 - Tell the customer you'll shoot their photo on a 15 year old cellphone, because it will be *good enough for them* at viewing distance.
@andyjmusic4831
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is very interesting. I guess any of my pics can be a billboard. I've often thought about this kind of thing actually. Thanks for sharing Lee.
@fritz9880
6 жыл бұрын
Well done! Great presentation, great visuals!
@NicolasP1973
6 жыл бұрын
That so true! I was billboard printer tech from 1997 till 2005!
@AoyonRahman
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this video, i was going to buy a expensive dslr just if i needed to do billboard work. But any 20mp camera will do. Thanks again!! Shout out from Bangladesh!!!!
@UllalPrajwal
6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, i guess for photographers like me, to get a good quality print for an exhibit, at home or an exhibition, a 300dpi is essential, as have seen people getting too close to big prints and admiring or criticizing the details, be it a landscape or a macro
@OspreyKnight
6 жыл бұрын
Depends, I'll happily drop down to 200ppi for my prints. More often I'll tell the printer to spread the dots apart if I need to go bigger because it gives a better result. People will go crazy if they think they recognize a pixel in the image, but don't bat an eye at seeing a cluster of dots. It also encourages people to get their noses off my prints X)
@vintage_lenses9878
6 жыл бұрын
Yiiipppiii....... I can keep my Nikon D200 then..........................
@shakester2010
6 жыл бұрын
That is a FANTASTIC Camera, never let it go.
@vintage_lenses9878
6 жыл бұрын
Yes it is, I love it so much I bought another to keep as reserve..........
@shakester2010
6 жыл бұрын
LOL!! Nice!
@tubechap8424
6 жыл бұрын
Way too much detail, sell it today while you get something for it and buy some 2 megapixel camera while you can get one
@jamesridley184
6 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot after buy large format printer bought my self a Nikon d40 for portraits but use my d800e for a back lol
@StopDownGallery
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation!
@anonym6891
3 жыл бұрын
It all depends on what you want to do. I printed a 500 MP panorama 4m x 1m (around 280 ppi). Why I needed that resolution? I wanted the spectator to be able to discover all the little details of that beautiful skyline and get really close to it.
@brng1755
6 жыл бұрын
In Austria Most of the ads are on walls right beside the streets because in the city there are a lot of bus stops where you stand and wath your surroundings.
@picketf
6 жыл бұрын
those backlit scrolling banner bilboards have quite high resolution printed on canvas because they're read from very up close at train/subway stations
@OspreyKnight
6 жыл бұрын
He literally says that at the end of the video.
@johnbroman7134
3 жыл бұрын
That was so awesome! So so so helpful! Thank you
@youreperfectstudio4789
3 жыл бұрын
I photograph artwork for small museums and galleries. In this case resolution is important so people can study the fine details of a work and god forbid something happen to an original there is as good as possible of a backup digital copy. And thats all of course in uncompressed raw. I also photograph live bands. For that 24 megapixels is plenty. For that stuff i usually do raw+12MP jpegs on a mix of apsc and full frame
@kylemwalker
6 жыл бұрын
You do need something much larger for giant art prints that are viewed much closer. Apple Stores use giant high resolution images for the art along the sides of the store.
@cooldude23407
6 жыл бұрын
also for animation work and 3D modeling, having more usable pixels actually makes your job easier
@keithbrown454
6 жыл бұрын
Good lesson. I gained some knowledge about megapixels. Thank you.
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