Been reloading for 45 years, I was tough to toss your bass when it cracks. It’s worked for me with both pistols and rifles.
@Roddy556
3 жыл бұрын
I love when people do tests like this in such a professional way. Excellent information and an excellent job.
@JohnnysReloadingBench
4 жыл бұрын
I saw that baby blue press and had to close the video immediately. You're dead to me. :)
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
I knew you would be upset. I have a lot of figuring out to do with it. Overall I am not in love yet, but I hear the Kool-Aid affect takes a minute. Let me start counting backwards from 100, 99, .....
@mark2727
2 жыл бұрын
I have been reloading various caliber's of both rifle, & pistol ammo. After my dad passed away, I inherited his 30-06 rifle, cases and reloading equipment. Some of his brass cases were from the Lake City Arsenal with head stamp of 58 & 62 Match grade cases. I know for a fact that my dad and I reloaded these cases many times but never loading anything at maximum velocity or powder. We typically would resize the cases without the benefit of a tumbler, or annealing. We measured each case and only trimmed if it were out of specifications. Now, I have relooked at all of these cases and separated them into a separate group. Commercial brass vs the LCA Match head stamps. After thorough cleaning, measurement I have found only a small fraction of the cases within a sample group of 50 to be out of specification where the neck length was over the max length by a few thousandths of an inch. Careful resizing, and annealing is next before reloading with a standard large rifle primer and a 150 grain Sierra Pro Hunter BT projectile. I am very carefully documenting these old cases for personal use. And, no, I have no idea how many times they have been reloaded and fired. I do know they are fireformed for his rifle and I have no plans to dispose of either one any time soon. The old '06 will be with me until the day I die and pass it on. Semper Fi.
@rayc.1396
4 жыл бұрын
Many years back I ran a test on Winchester, R-P and Federal cases. Didn't have a chronograph, 1971, they were real expensive. Test rifle: Remington 700 BDL with a 4-12 Redfield scope, 24 inch factory barrel 1in 9 twist. IMR 4831, 61 grains. All loads used CCI 250 Magnum primers. Speer 160 grain Spitzer slugs. I shot for group, separate target for each case. To start I cleaned the barrel to a spotless condition, it was not cleaned or swabbed again till all testing was completed. I fired 5 rounds of my favorite load at a target 150 yards out, that was my base, .75 center to center. All cases were prepped and loaded the same in the same order. These were pretty stiff loads, saying the were full house high pressure would be correct. The purpose was to see how many times I could load a case before the belt expansion was so great I couldn't or at least had an issue with closing the bolt. The Winchester case died first with 11 rounds, next was the R-P case at 13 rounds, the Federal case lasted 15 rounds. The groups all ran less than 1" at the 150 yard range. I used that rifle to shoot everything one could find to shoot where I lived then. Untold number of rounds, all high pressure. The first 3" in front of the chamber got so worn you could drop a slug in it and it not touch a sized cases put in behind it. Should have rebarreled it, but just sold it a gunsmith. My experiment was good for the time, but with today's technology it would take more time than I have life cycle to complete. Great video, do some more like this, maybe see how many full house loads it takes to stretch the belt on a 300 Win Mag.
@charlconradie4935
3 жыл бұрын
Please don't stop making these videos. Wow 20 loads on Lapua Brass.. Glad I bought it, seems to be a huge saving in the long run.
@circuit_stu
4 жыл бұрын
Can I give this video more than one thumbs up? This information answers a lot of questions I had, but didn’t have the capability to easily do the experiments myself.
@johngregory4801
4 жыл бұрын
I haven't yet started reloading, but your vids both demystify it AND show me how many years it may take before I go from novice... To sufficiently competent... To actually being able to experiment without blowing my face off. Thanks.
@PilotMcbride
4 жыл бұрын
Get reloading ol’ mate. Follow documented advice, check & double check. I’ve been reloading since the 80s, still got all my body parts in tact, made some mistakes but fixed them. It is expanding your personal logic, go for it and remember, safety always comes first. Good luck and enjoy yourself.
@Fudmottin
4 жыл бұрын
@@PilotMcbride My first over pressure sign was when the bolt velocity exceeded the muzzle velocity.
@PilotMcbride
4 жыл бұрын
@@Fudmottin Holy CRAP!!
@greybone777
4 жыл бұрын
Some magnum rifles will loosen primer pockets in as little as 6 loadings. Straight wall casings can be loaded almost indefinitely for single shot rifles where no mouth crimp is needed. My357 and 44 magnum go 6 to 8 rounds before case necks cracked. Too many and you risk case neck separation. On belted magnums you risk case head separation. Feel the inside of your case with a bent Paper clip to feel for any dips inside near the case head. This was in old speer manuals.
@TonyYork-KB9RAO
Жыл бұрын
Running the tests in a single case is a clever Idea that I wish I could do, development should be infinately quicker... good job.
@ericasilbaugh9002
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent content as usual. It would have been interesting to see another piece of brass run through the same test without the annealing step. As well as using the your arbor press to document the difference in seating pressure between annealed/not annealed as the round count increased on each piece.
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to do that, but just didn't have time. I do plan on doing something like that.
@cory8791
4 жыл бұрын
Mmmm the force is very strong with this one!!! Great vid!!!
@japguns1022
4 жыл бұрын
Very nice work.. I am not at this level of reloading, but this is still very useful info. Once I cycle out my noob reloads where I had a dirty sizing die and scored the case necks to where they almost split after firing, I think I will be alright. That was way back when I used crushed walnut shell in my vibratory tumbler and didn't get all the dust off of them before lube and sizing. Now I have a wet tumble system and love it so much more.
@wilfdarr
3 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence: the 'Special Forces Sniper Training and Employment' manual states “A sniper going on a mission will foul his bore with 5 shots to preclude problems with the so- called cold bore shot.” It's almost like they know what they're doing! Very cool to see it proved in real life. Another great video!
@aaronarcher2356
4 жыл бұрын
I have to thank you. You do alot of work. To show us what you are doing and learning. Keep it up!
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks glad you enjoy it.
@aussief5016
4 жыл бұрын
Video idea: I would really love to see a brass life comparison. 1) no anneal. fls every time 2) fls every time. anneal every 5th 3) neck size. anneal and fls every 5th. something like that so people can see the neck vs fls and the benefit or not of annealing. thanks
@wilfdarr
3 жыл бұрын
Skip the neck sizing: well matched FLS dies will actually extend the life of the brass because they support the body during the neck sizing operation. Because it depends on how well matched your die is to your chamber, a test like this wouldn't necessarily be indicative of what the larger population will experience.
@oldfilmguy9413
4 жыл бұрын
Always appreciate your methodical approach and informative videos. Just learning reloading as a complete beginner, but storing away such useful information. Cheers!
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@paulpickhinke987
4 жыл бұрын
I would like to know how much time between firings? You mentioned 5 shots to foul in, but I have to wonder about the barrel thermally stabilizing, and how much that affected your speeds.
@Dwayne7834
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information. Looks like it pays to buy the better brass. Thanks for sharing
@kentuckywindage222
3 жыл бұрын
I do similar tests, but with the same 5 cases. I'm fairly new to reloading compared to others, (10 years). For newbies, purchase good equipment and components. Do one thing at a time and being consistent is most important. Double check yourself. Mistakes are easily made and dangerous. Pick a time you can give full attention to the process. Have fun! Teach someone to shoot and even reload. Keeps our sport and hobby relevant to these changing times we live in.
@BillyBadassTV
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent expirement! Looking forward to the next one measuring neck tension. Also, maybe weight the case after each firing to see how much it changes. Are you cleaning any carbon out between firings?
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
I did clean the carbon with a brush.
@mrmatt7210
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Clearly, I am better informed than before watching this video. Thank you "Green Sleeve Man."
@njgrplr2007
4 жыл бұрын
I keep reloading the brass until my primer pocket gauge shows it's too loose or I see evidence of an impending case head separation.
@mikespangler98
2 жыл бұрын
It really depends on the operating pressure. 30-30 cases are good for at least a dozen, hot 270 maybe 8, revolver cases until they come apart. I've separated heads on 357 cases, and split others longitudinally. I've yet to wear out a 45 Colt case. The 257 Roberts is hard on case necks for some reason. They split well before the case head "separation is near" ring shows up. There isn't really a firm rule.
@Jiminico
4 жыл бұрын
No talk of the Big Blue Elephant in the room! LOL. That’s a big surprise. Know you can’t make better ammo on it than you are now. So, I assume you’re in it for the volume. I guess you’ve been watching a lot of F-Class John and Erik Cortina as we all have probably. It’s amazing to see what FCJ has been able to do with his 750 as far as making good ammo suitable for F-Class in larger quantities and apparently saving a lot of time. I was so excited years back when I first bought my 650 with every option available. Then soon disappointed with inconsistencies in the ammo, pistol at that, which followed after previously loading everything on a RockChucker single stage. Had to start immediately with the aftermarket upgrades. The 2 most significant I found were using some kind of a clamping tool head to deal with the very excessive play and some kind of washer or bearing that will allow the shell plate to be tightened down more to reduce play and still turn freely. Since I had a number of Dillon tool heads I started by buying the clamping kit from UniqueTek and drilled and tapped them. Then for the powder dispensing for rifle loading I use the AT 500 powder die and funnel and weigh each charge separately off press, unless I don’t care and use a ball powder with the Dillon powder measure. I’ve since mostly gone back to reloading bottleneck rifle cartridges the old way and only use the Dillon for some large batches of 223 or performing certain tasks, as well as pistol rounds of course. Good Luck!
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jiminico, Yes I decided to pick one up. Believe it or not I am in it for the time savings more than the volume. Time is at a premium so I am hoping to increase my efficiency. I plan on seeing what it can do in the precision department. I am not planning on using the powder measure at this point. I have watched too many videos online with powder pouring all over the place, its giving me nightmares. It will probably be a while before I make video on it, but I will. I would have moved it off the bench but its a pain to hang from the wall so I need to figure that one out. BAR
@blaynemacpherson8519
4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the test done one more time without the anneal. I personally don’t have the means to anneal my brass. How much shorter or longer of a life do you get out of a piece of brass without it being annealed? Interesting video. 👍🏻
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it. I do want to compare this as well as some other things.
@bigal4334
4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Some type of annealing process is my next investment but I can't afford to spend the money on an AMP or Annie so looking at alternatives. Elfster's has an idea that could be available in kit form that looks interesting.
@timandrews4722
4 жыл бұрын
@@bigal4334 look at the Sagebrush or Annealrite both under $300
@mr.diyhowtopaintingwelding4479
4 жыл бұрын
Is there any KZitem guys that havent sold out to hornady?
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
Not sure what in this video even involves Hornady. They have literally provided myself or my channel absolutely nothing.
@ironbomb6753
4 жыл бұрын
What a terrific subject and experiment. Great vid man. 👍
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@guardianminifarm8005
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent information. Appreciate the diligence.
@BoltActionReloading
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@garydaddario6377
2 жыл бұрын
Great vids. I wish I had the free time to do the testing that you do. Keep up the good work and I'll live vicariously thru your reloading components....
@BoltActionReloading
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gary, glad you enjoy it!
@p1choco
4 жыл бұрын
This offers some pretty good insight. For me, in particular, the fowling shots. This was a very interesting video.
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.
@woutervokar7215
4 жыл бұрын
Fouling
@Fudmottin
4 жыл бұрын
@@woutervokar7215 When you're shooting pigeons, I think you can call it fowling.
@wilfdarr
3 жыл бұрын
@@Fudmottin Yes, buuuuut, if you shoot fowl with your fouling shots, (which inherently less accurate), would you consider that a foul shot (is it ethical: what if the fowl is a foul fowl, is the shot then more ethical?) or is it a fowl shot? I suppose if you shoot the fowl with your foul, even if it were a foul fowl, the foul shot still results in a shot fowl. 🤔😉
@Fudmottin
3 жыл бұрын
@@wilfdarr I think with current laws, you have to use solid copper bullets. Or at least something lead free.
@johanlindh737
4 жыл бұрын
Short, fast and to the point. 👍 I, though, would never accept one point of data. Realizing it probably took some time to execute this, I do not use fewer than 5 cartridges for any test, be it speed or groups.
@WvMnts
2 жыл бұрын
Never reloaded but trying to learn. Great channel.
@BoltActionReloading
2 жыл бұрын
HI Josh, Glad you enjoy the channel. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Sometimes it takes me a minute but I try.
@dgreenapple
4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding work!! Thanks so much for taking the time to do the research and share the data.
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@crow3003
4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video, this idea resulted in a good tool. Hope you could repeat with seating pressure metering. Min 5 fouling shoots I thought was the norm, but very nice and helpful to see it confirmed.
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. I want to run some more testing like this and get more data. I just have to find the time.
@ralphgreenjr.2466
Жыл бұрын
I started reloading at 19 and am now 74. Military brass, 30-06, 7,62 NATO, 5,56, .45 auto, 9mm, can be reloaded a dozen+ times.Some of my brass have WWII headstamps. I swage the primer pockets with a Dillon primer pocket swager. Some brass is delicate like the new .350 legend. I am getting 5 reloadings (Winchester brass) and see vertical case splitting. I am not loading to max, the brass is delicate.
@tandyman1330
4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video format and wanted to thank you for not making me watch you take every shot when what i am really interested in is the results. Some KZitemrs could learn from you.
@williamsweet2253
2 жыл бұрын
Very cool, very nice research
@BoltActionReloading
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@baugwan1
2 жыл бұрын
The problem I have when I clean the brass, is that there is always some corn cob stuck in the flash hole. How do you deal with that problem? Why don’t you do a video about what happens when you reload a rifle round and tumbling media remains/lodged in the brass. How it effects pressure, accuracy, and how likely it is to blow up the gun. You make awesome videos and I'm most grateful for all the work you do.
@elingeniero9117
2 жыл бұрын
Well, back in the day when people wore nice clothes you would get a free wire coat hanger with your clothes at the dry cleaners. A straight piece of the hanger wire stuck an glued to a piece of old wood broom handle makes a corn cob pokey scrapy thing that will clear the jam.
@DanDustEmOff
4 жыл бұрын
You should try using HBN coated bullets to see if you can reduce the amount of fouling shots you need. I've seen the difference between my cold bore shot and second shot fall by 10 to 20 fps and more consistency as a whole.
@stephenthompson9722
3 жыл бұрын
So glad you are annealing after every round. Actually that would be a great test. Annealed vs not annealing.
@BoltActionReloading
3 жыл бұрын
I plan to do this at some point. I am waiting on a tool.
@shaneengelberts120
4 жыл бұрын
A fresh new approach. Thanks for the effort.
@rdsii64
4 жыл бұрын
I agree that you should buy quality components, and buying cheaper brass is a false economy when you consider the service life of Lapua brass. With that said, I would love to see a test like this on less expensive brass. This would allow the viewer to "see" the difference. I don't use Lapua brass in my AR10, but my soon to be completed F-class rifle will only see Lapua brass.
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
I have thought about things like this. The issue is pointing out that another brass might not be as good engaging the fan boys. People loose their mind if you show another brass type might not last as long it its their favorite. I try my best not to tell everyone its the best cause I own it.
@davidhan2571
4 жыл бұрын
Great study. Now use this data as the baseline to build future comparison. Especially on annealing vs non annealing. Thanks
@savagereloader6699
4 жыл бұрын
Great test BAR!
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@dthunter2506rem
3 жыл бұрын
Great information sharing. Now I know what I sound like to others! LOL! I have been OCD this way for some time. My only question is why are you avoiding the camera? Having you in the video adds the personal touch. Try annealing between each shot as well to evaluate the benefit of annealing on the standard deviations.
@BoltActionReloading
3 жыл бұрын
Hi DT, I always anneal between firings and did for this testing as well.
@msa4548
3 жыл бұрын
I have a. 375 ruger, about the only choice is Hornady for brass. Though even if I can get 5 per brass I'll be fine.
@jeffmiller7837
2 жыл бұрын
Nice test .
@wsollers1
4 жыл бұрын
This was a truly great video
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
@tomtamblyn1149
2 жыл бұрын
Keep your loads down to a sensible level, and the cases will last for a long time. Loading .45 ACP for close to 50 years, I never had to check length, etc. Just tumble and load. Of course these were for reduced loads fired indoor shooting.
@l.p.5259
3 жыл бұрын
I saw some LC .308 brass on a factory tour at a major bullet manufacturers test lab that were being tumbled. On the side of the tumbler there was a card with the contents inside and 46 marks on it. I asked the tour guide what the marks were for and he said that’s how many firings were on that brass🤯
@fredwilliams7551
Жыл бұрын
HOPING YOU CAN HELP. I SHOOT THE SAME RIFLE, LOAD, AND BULLET AND I USE THE SAME CHARGE ... I NOTICED THAT YOUR NEW BARTLEIN BARRELL IS IN 1 TO 7.5 I HAVE 2575 RDS THRU MY RPR AND MY GROUPS ARE STARTING TO VARY ON ME. I AM THINKING ABOUT GETTING A NEW BARREL. wHY DID YOU GO WITH THE 1 7.5 VS THE 1 IN 8 TWIST? SINCE I HAVE THE SAME SET UP I AM HOPING YOU CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE INSIGHT. ALSO, DID U INSTALL THE NEW BARREL? OR DID A GUNSMITH OR THE BARTLEIN COMPANY DO IT FOR YOU.? AGAIN THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR GUIDANCE
@bobwiese6128
4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant testing. Thanks!
@VmaxBR549
4 жыл бұрын
What I would like to see is for someone to do 5 identical ladder tests and compare the nodes to see IF the LADDER test is even valid . It would prove if the nodes are the same over the 5 test. (;-) TP
@aaronsata8621
2 жыл бұрын
In metro Detroit area right now you can find CCI 41 primers at Dunham’s sporting goods. $9 per package.
@WalterWhite-gw3vm
4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video on reloading questions. I'm on my 5th reload of the 50 Peterson srp brass I have but sadly I had to set them aside thanks to the primer shortages and there's no frick'n way I'm paying $170-$200 for a 1000ct of small rifle primers, so I went back to large RP because I still got a nice inventory on them. Once again great vid and thanks for the data.
@ironbomb6753
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, be happy you diversified and can still load. Happy shooting.
@WalterWhite-gw3vm
4 жыл бұрын
@@ironbomb6753 yeah I stocked up mid January on small rifle primers since I swapped from large to small brass for my 6.5cm because I also reload 223rem but that stock been somewhat depleted and hunting season is around corner, so yeah this shortage sucks
@holl-we4ir
3 жыл бұрын
IKR! I managed to get my hands on a 5000ct box of LRPs so I'm set for a while. All I have is Hornady LRP brass, so... yay?
@bigal4334
4 жыл бұрын
41.5 H4350 is exactly what I use for that bullet and the 140 HPBTM. I get about 2750 fps using Hornady large primer and Winchester magnum primers. I get similar results using Starline small rifle primer brass.
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
Charge weights in this area for this combo seem to be etched in everyone's reloading logs at this point. It just seems to work.
@bigal4334
4 жыл бұрын
@@BoltActionReloading I think at that point it becomes a matter of seating depth and consistency in reloading. After that it's all on the shooter. :)
@upnorthreloading2214
4 жыл бұрын
I see you dropped money on the dillon! I remember when you said you were thinking of doing that from JRB's stream. Is it everything you ever hoped for and dreamed about? Back to brass life - I can't tell the number of times I've been mortified to find out some people only get 3-5 reloads from their brass. And these are modern, factory rifles with decent tolerances, not the god-forsaken milsurp stuff I subject myself to. It makes me wonder what horrors they visit upon their rifles.
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
I did pick up the Dillon. I am withholding judgment till I get some experience with it. Brass life - I have heard a lot of people give recommendations and this is where the conversation gets harder. If you look at cheaper brass, I haven't got the service life out of it. (ignoring performance) The glaring thing that no one will want to say out loud is "If I can still get more reloads out of it do I want to?" what am I giving up? (plinking vs precision) If it could be used 50 times it doesn't mean that you want to. (does the SD go crazy?) I would really like to put some more data behind this but I am not sure its worth putting the time into. The people that need to know, won't believe it anyway.
@timandrews4722
4 жыл бұрын
When I first started reloading 308win, I got 15 reloads before some of the primer pockets got loose. Now I'm using LC brass.
@upnorthreloading2214
4 жыл бұрын
@@BoltActionReloading For what it's worth, I always appreciate the effort put into data like this.
@rbm6184
3 жыл бұрын
Really cases should be tossed out after three to five reloadings due to fatigue according to most manuals but I just shoot them until they start to show separation or crack/split. Then again I am not as super concerned over small performance loss as some shooters.
@wbpursell
4 жыл бұрын
Where did you order your 6.5 Bartlein barrel? Was there a long wait to get it?
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Wayne, It came from White Oak. They actually beat their time estimate by a couple weeks. If you want to see how it performed check this video out: kzitem.info/news/bejne/tqx5up2paahpiHY
@86309
3 жыл бұрын
How much did you trim off to length in the 20 round shots? That shows you how much your thinning it out. And so much depends on your FL size die dimensions relative to your actual chamber dimensions.
@BoltActionReloading
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Patrick, Since I trimmed every firing I can not tell you exactly, but I will say that the Lapua brass tends to not grow much more than.002", maybe less. Using the same die with Hornady brass its usually more like .004-.005" each firing.
@raulmartinez7730
3 жыл бұрын
I get 30 reloads for muy 308 savage just adjusting the chamber headspace from 0.04 to 0.02 annealing every 3 reloads and tim every time same results .150 aprox on paper.
@nycreloader
3 жыл бұрын
Loving this info brother thanks for doing it.
@BoltActionReloading
3 жыл бұрын
Glad people find it informative
@georgezink8256
2 жыл бұрын
I have loaded 243 with 100 grain Derrida boat tail as many as 35 times and still shot 1/2 inch at 100 yards out of my interarms mark 10 that’s 40 years old , shooting several thousand rounds
@hankbrinlee4677
4 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video but I think you're getting a tad risque...I recognize that ear! :) Cheers from North Dakota...
@daviddale3624
4 жыл бұрын
In line seater with gauge. Been watching Eric Cortina too?
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dale, when winners talk I listen. Anything is worth a shot.
@donbarile8916
4 жыл бұрын
@@BoltActionReloading : I see what you did there...
@ImNoBSING
2 жыл бұрын
You make awesome content. Thank you!
@BoltActionReloading
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! I am glad you enjoy it.
@losonsrenoster
3 жыл бұрын
I reload until visible signs of impending failure occurs, I have never had a neck seperation, or a case failure other than dents that are not due to firing. One rule though: I keep firing those rounds from the same rifle, casings rhat was fired from one rifle will not be used in another.
@GeorgeSemel
4 жыл бұрын
Well with the chamber in your rifle and your dies, and that particular lot of brass, bullets, powder, and primers it might hold then again it might not. I never understood why this is so important to some. I know guys that would in the course of a year blow up a perfectly good rifle. I have been loading my own ammo since 1968. I still use the same RCBS Rockchucker press. I have done this with a 270 and Winchester Western Brass. I got twenty shots out of a case before I got a neck split. It's stupid in the end. The brass is fairly cheap. I hunt a lot so all my hunting loads is with once fired cases. I don't load non- belted cases more than 5 times, Full-length Resize. I keep very very detailed records, cases, and dies, go with one rifle, and stays with that rifle for as long as I own that particular gun. I have given up this endless load development and testing years ago, too much time and expense for splitting hairs. I still shoot the same load for the 7 x 57 that I settled on in 1970. It's a boring thing I guess for some, I load my ammo, I know that I am going to get around 2800 fps and 1.4-inch groups dead on at 200 yards. I also know that within 350 yards when I squeeze the trigger game is going to fall down right there or soon after. It's the same for my 6.5 x 55, 338 WM 375 H+H, and 416 Remington. Plus a bunch of others I have but don't want to write a novel. We all go thru this, it's like chasing the purple dragon. You will find this out for yourself in about 20 years. I am old now, looking back on it, I could have saved a boatload of money on it but understanding this, but it takes a lifetime to understand some things and even then we tend to look for the unobtainable perfection, it's human nature I guess. Like your loading bench what little I see of it. Nice.
@wilfdarr
3 жыл бұрын
The money he drops on reloading is nothing compared to what he'll drop on a competition: to enter a competition can be a couple hundred dollars, then there's flight, rental car, hotel: you spend that kind of money, you go to win, not to shoot 1.4 inch groups at 200 yards.
@cristianespinal9917
2 жыл бұрын
For some people, the hunt or the paper punching is the real hobby and the reloading is a means to an end. For some others, that splitting hairs to get that 5% extra performance gain from that 50% extra work and expense is just as much a part of the hobby as the shooting.
@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594
2 жыл бұрын
"Blow up a perfectly good rifle" ... ?
@1776Angry
3 жыл бұрын
I've loaded some 38 spl and 357 mag. nickel brass so many times the nickel is almost all worn off.
@aaronwalker1347
3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes these tests creat more questions than answers, would it have had the same out come if you had done the cleaning between shots? Or if with the extra time to clean would cause weather conditions to change the results,or maybe just the cleaning would change the results or maybe even the case life. I did really enjoy the video, but that has been my problem most of my life. Every time I think I answered a question I seem to find ten more. Maybe it's just my way of keeping busy? Lol
@Thoseaboutto911
4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that you chamfer the case mouth out to the edge. Do you really need to go that far and why? My thinking is that no part of the bullet is go out that far and you’re thinning the mouth. Really like to hear your thoughts on the subject.
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
This is what the brass trimmer does. Not an issue if your not crimping IMO.
@seantu1496
3 жыл бұрын
With auto pistol stuff that you bring or pickup at the range, throw out the stuff that's dented up too much and load it up. For the 9mm and 45ACP I shoot the most, think I have some stuff, not much since it does get lost, but has been in the rotation for over 30 years now. When it comes to rifle, you resize, inspect, and measure. If you have to trim, put all the cases in the tray and look at them from the top. The ones that are stretching out and getting thin will look thin compared to the rest of them, and you can make the decision to throw them out or not. FWIW, and I don't mean to trivialize this, but a cracked case in a rifle or revolver round for a reloader who is smart enough to ask the question to be safe, is kind of a non-issue, they'll be safe, although there are the self taught Internet Experts these days. How he went off on velocities and how well it shot, which really has nothing to do with how long a piece of brass will last (now we need him to get to a video about neck v.s. full length resizing, which does make a difference when you start reaching way out.)
@paulharveu526
4 жыл бұрын
Did I miss you mention it, but did you do any annealing between loading the case?
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, yes anneal after every shot.
@dbelex
3 жыл бұрын
I've gotten 10 loadings with PMC .223 brass before any neck splits. Federal about 3..........
@keyfa9051
Жыл бұрын
Can you show us your target paper ?
@spadetrump
4 жыл бұрын
I use alot of PPU brass when i want to save money. it seems to be the most consistent and longest lasting for Budget. for Premium brass. I use Lapua when i can get it. Norma seems pretty good also.
@matthewtracy8744
4 жыл бұрын
Could you stretch the life out with annealing? Even if you couldn't that's an impressive amount of reloads.
@bobwiese6128
4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. 3 or more times the reloads with annealing.
@LeverPhile
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't he anneal after every round?
@BoltActionReloading
3 жыл бұрын
Yes I did.
@valleybreaks
4 жыл бұрын
Where can I find primers, nobody will sell at any price 😕
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
I actually found some last weekend at my local supplier. I also found a couple local friends that were willing to help me out with a smaller project. Setting up in stock alerts and knowing people that may be generous with their good fortune for having a couple on the shelf are the best options I am aware of for now. Managing an appropriate (based on your needs) reserve is the best thing you can do but its a little late for that for a lot of people. Good Luck!
@MikeJones-vb1me
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, reloading that round after each shot must have been like stepping back into the 1800’s
@greybone777
2 жыл бұрын
The old Buffalo hunters used 45 70 brass indefinitely. The didn't need to size or crimp it for single shot rifles.
@mikeschewaga6087
3 жыл бұрын
Good info, thnx.
@BoltActionReloading
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@garyh1449
2 жыл бұрын
more times when I retire brass it's because of the primer pockets. Rarely for split cases. I've never annealed a case in 50 years. However 303 British is all another story.
@charleshetrick3152
4 жыл бұрын
It’s the annealing I’d bet, I’ve babied my first lot of 308 brass of the original 1000 ~600 remain after 15 years; Prvi Partizan brass.
@DakotaDinwoodie
3 жыл бұрын
Settings>Playback Speed>0.5 Enjoy a knowledgeable drunk guy teaching you how to reload
@bigal4334
4 жыл бұрын
I see you drank the blue Kool-Aid. LOL
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
I need to get some use on it. As long as it speeds me up and I'm not loosing performance, I'll be happy.
@bigal4334
4 жыл бұрын
@@BoltActionReloading Haven't gone there yet. I'm tempted but I don't do enough volume to justify it.
@Russell-1
4 жыл бұрын
‘’Piece of brass” = ‘case’
@whiskeytango9769
2 жыл бұрын
I reload until the brass shows a fatal flaw, such as a crack, or the primers are too loose.
@georgezink8256
2 жыл бұрын
100 grain serria boat tail never max loads
@Michael-rg7mx
Жыл бұрын
You cannot put a number of firings for all brass!!!! If you are new enough to reloading that you don't know this you need to know some real world facts. Some cartridge shapes stretch more than others. Higher pressure maximum loads stretch brass more. Jacketed bullets stretch brass more than cast bullets, a lot more! Thin Winchester brass has more volume so it runs the same velocity at a lower pressure. Thick Lapua or Remington brass will be a higher pressure. Military brass is harder and more brittle. More apt to split before stretching. Improper annealing shortens case life. A low pressure load can extend case life almost indefinitely. A chamber that is the closest size to the sizing die will make brass last longer.
@austinramsfield2206
3 жыл бұрын
So your telling me I dont need to tumble my brass between reloads?
@TexasLeverGunner
4 жыл бұрын
Quality brass is always cheaper.
@PracticallySquared1
4 жыл бұрын
Since when did you have a Dillon? Did I miss something or did you get a new toy?
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations you are the first one to notice! Its new. Have some videos plan and hope to become more efficient.
@PracticallySquared1
4 жыл бұрын
@@BoltActionReloading nice. I have a few videos up on my 750. Love it
@BoltActionReloading
4 жыл бұрын
I am going to use it a while. I have more stuff coming for it too. There will be videos.
@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting ... ... , however; ... THIS is way over the needs/requirements for the "average" reloaded to do themselves. This IS "advanced" handloading.
@paulvenn4447
4 жыл бұрын
I shoot it till it splits or the arse falls out of primer pockets lol
@josephgomes8543
3 жыл бұрын
ANNEALING after every shot?? Not til 7 or more here.
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