I watched the material UI playlist way back when. It's great to see someone who isn't optimizing for being a youtube tutorial guru. Nothing better than learning from someone who is actually applying it to solve real world issues. Very cool!
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Wow throwback haha - really appreciate the kind words man. Yeah I kinda got burnt out making tutorials, and it didn't fit in with what I was doing on a daily basis anyways... so I figured I'd try this instead hahaha.
@Redlabel0
5 ай бұрын
User paying a SaaS paying a PaaS
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
lool
@rajshah2130
3 ай бұрын
thats how it works lol and PaaS will pay a IaaS if its platform is remote
@fanaccount6600
2 ай бұрын
And the laas is paying the tax@@rajshah2130
@concaption
2 ай бұрын
Paying AWS.
@martinomg
2 ай бұрын
I run a 160k daily visitors LMS (it has a lot of free stuff), about 5k registered users for just 46 bucks with a vultr vps + 10 ddos protection. I only need to worry with bandwidth usage, because I have a 5tb cap and after that I have to pay 0.01 per GB, which I've only been close to the limit once (97% at it's peak). Developer cost and producing content are by far the most expensive costs.
@mrpetervideo
2 ай бұрын
agree
@moamenhu
2 ай бұрын
Which privider you pau 0.01 per GB?
@martinomg
2 ай бұрын
Vultr vps
@Benjamin-Chavez
5 ай бұрын
Love the content homie. Good blend of tech and business, which isn’t something you find a lot of. Keep em coming man!
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Thank you bro!! Anything in particular you'd like me to talk about? :)
@rembautimes8808
5 ай бұрын
Thanks it’s really insightful. Vercel lost a potential customer today - will steer clear of them unless they change their ways
@ReflectingEnergy
5 ай бұрын
Stay away from AWS. …we’re using Vercel, an AWS wrapper. 😄
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
hahaha wrappers are useful for a reason
@Vorenus875
5 ай бұрын
Heroku is an AWS wrapper too 😂 This video quickly became “the cost of not knowing AWS”
@raunaquepatra3966
3 ай бұрын
@@Vorenus875but the wrappers are cheaper when the site is not that big
@chrish8079
2 ай бұрын
🤣
@lnx648
2 ай бұрын
I'd like to know why staying away from AWS... Sure there are cheaper solutions than AWS, but I don't think it's horrible or that confusing/complicated.
@raviss98
5 ай бұрын
Positive guy in tech & biz. Relevant content too. Keep such videos coming 😀
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Appreciate you man!
@brandonmansfield6570
5 ай бұрын
That's a lot of vendors to depend on. I run 3 sites and my total is less than $30. Can be really rough to depend on metered services. Billing spikes are rough, especially when you are pre-revenue. Thanks for sharing the Vercel experience.
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Great insights man thank you!! 3 sites for $30 is really awesome
@dyrone7071
5 ай бұрын
what's your monthly income
@Fatih4811
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your transparency. Even though it's my first time seeing your channel and website, I've learnt a lot from this video =)
@lebronjaimeslannister
5 ай бұрын
that part on vercel hits hard damn
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Haha, Vercel is great until it isn't
@dermuschelschluerfer
3 ай бұрын
Hmmm idk about the general "Stay clear of AWS". Yes it is very quick and easy to accidentally spend tons of money, but with the right things you can manage to not spend much. Vercel is also just reselling AWS stuff so thats where you pay a bunch of premium too. Serverless scaling is a pain once you reach the point where instances of containers would be cheaper than serverless calls. I wouldnt recommend any completely new engineer to do anything on AWS. I remember the first times i had to do stuff and i was close to causing problems every time. Now after 3-4 years im pretty comfortable with using aws. It requires training and attention when you do stuff and plan architectures.
@rickr937
4 ай бұрын
how are you scraping instagram tho? can you make an in depth video on how you run continuous scraping and how you host it?
@jumpmanjxhnsxn7608
Ай бұрын
dude you're so fucking brilliant, you saas ideas are VERY good! I just got so many ideas from this!
@mario_luis_dev
5 ай бұрын
this content is pure gold. Great work Anthony 👏
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Glad it's valuable to you man!! I'll keep it up :)
@spookimiiki5891
Ай бұрын
i've been thinking about starting a startup, this was really eyeopening both in terms of expected cost but also what it takes (or what is good to have) stack wise! liked and subbed!!
@chrish8079
2 ай бұрын
"Don't use AWS use Vercel" "Vercel screwed us over but AWS hasn't" The hell did I just watch
@dragbrid2357
2 ай бұрын
Vercel is just reselling aws anyway
@mrpetervideo
2 ай бұрын
vercel is using aws?
@dragbrid2357
2 ай бұрын
@@mrpetervideo yeah vercel just resells aws but makes them easier to use that's it
@codecruz
25 күн бұрын
Been using DNSimple for years. $6/mo personal plan with free DDoS protection out of the box. No additional setting changes required.
@olivierginiaux7466
Ай бұрын
I know there is some complexity behind your SAAS but a single server (eg 48 CPU cores) can easily handle 100x times your monthly traffic (you said 500k page views). With the remaining computing power you could probably handle the background computations as well and get it all running for much cheaper overall. I understand the convenience of using all these services and abstractions but beware it easily backfires as you spend time configuring and troubleshooting these instead
@SonAyoD
5 ай бұрын
You’re content is so valuable!
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Glad it helps!!
@bjarne9700
2 ай бұрын
Do not rely on cloudflare. Only use the services that can be easily replaced and always be ready to move to another provider. Because when cloudflare decides to fuck you over its game over. And just in general its a really bad advise to lock yourself in a specific ecosystem. You can do it if you think its the right decision, but suggesting it to others is stupid. A "Senior" Dev should know better.
@bjarne9700
2 ай бұрын
Also for 600USD you could get a whole fleet of dedicated servers and deploy there. Maybe get an external caching service and obv. a DNS provider and youre good to go. 100% no hidden fees and most likely way more performant. I dont know the cost of dedicated servers in the US but here in Germany 600USD would get you 1.8TB of RAM and 112 CPU Cores across 14 Nodes.
@raideez
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this one, been thinking about these exactly same questions what you presented in video. Espectially cloudflare + vercel anti ddos etc.
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Slada1
2 ай бұрын
At this scale, you could just buy a dedicated server in a datacenter
@kobibr9362
4 ай бұрын
Yeah I am not touching vercel. I am scared of it. What is going on with aws? Have you tried SST to deploy on AWS? My next stack will be pretty simple NextJS, payload CMS, serverless functions for cron jobs and event bus all the way( they run for almost free) and SST will hold all of that together.
@stickyblicky11
3 ай бұрын
AWS problems sounded like skill issues
@yellowboat8773
3 ай бұрын
Nice to see someone who actually does this for real
@Me29446
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your startups' finances like this! I noticed there are only tech stack costs on here; I find that a lot of my costs end up going towards marketing (although maybe that is just a signal that I am doing something wrong). Would you consider making a video on this subject?
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Ah personally we had a $0 marketing policy! If the product was good it would spread through word of mouth usually
@hectorharris4051
2 ай бұрын
Great vids, and the insta reels are top tier
@argenistherose
5 ай бұрын
nice video man, enjoying this content
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Glad it's useful!
@inferious777
3 ай бұрын
Vercel is great if youre publishing projects with virtually no users but once you get over even like 100 concurrent active users its very easy to ecceed their limits. AWS imo just targets growing companies with tons of capital. I'd recommend just renting vps/vdses, they have their own risks of course like reliability, etc. but the prices are way more affordable. Plus learning devops to me is fun + a free skill for your resume.
@joshuabiyinzika2834
5 ай бұрын
Hey man! I love your startup content. Thanks!
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@CodingPhase
5 ай бұрын
Great content ❤ new subscriber
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Welcome!!
@davidmenache
5 ай бұрын
An enlightening and fresh perspective. Thanks!
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@HHJoshHH
3 ай бұрын
Do you still feel the same about Cloud Flare in light of new events?
@shamoilkhan888
2 ай бұрын
Vercel and Cloudflare not looking good today.
@JohnSmith-op7ls
2 ай бұрын
There’s such an insane glut of SaaS offerings now that don’t need to exist. It’s basically shovelware. The money is in selling the tools to the witless prospectors.
@we-shall
5 ай бұрын
so, to run a SAAS we need loads of SAASs.
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
the self fulfilling prophecy
@aurelianspodarec2629
5 ай бұрын
You don't. Back in the days you would do these things on your own. A SaaS is there to make your life faster, easier etc... would you rather pay 50$ a month or spend $10k doing it yourslef with medicore solutions?
@oyeaurashu
3 ай бұрын
Yeah that's the point, if you know how to make these saas software as per your requirement it's can get even cheaper and more reliable, scalable.@@aurelianspodarec2629
@sunscrave
Ай бұрын
So no cost related to branding, registering as and LLC or Corp or any of the long list of little things you need for your business to be registered and legitimate? Just $100/month? I'm sorry I'm pretty shocked here. I'm all ears if someone wants to explain but this just sounds way too good to be true.
@jameswainwright5217
5 ай бұрын
Vercel should add alerts and implement protections around there limits. It seems unfair that you can get stinged so easily
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
100%
@asfandyarkhan2787
2 ай бұрын
Liked becuase of Jared. Subscribed becuase of such great advice.
@Randominsaan-n4s
5 ай бұрын
could you also please share the employee cost with a breakdown for the number of employees you have working for each startup, like x engineers, y designers and z growth marketers, etc
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Great question!! I will cover this for sure!
@Randominsaan-n4s
5 ай бұрын
@@AnthonySistilli awesome, looking forward to it
@ifindev
4 ай бұрын
Great video and transparancy! Thanks for sharing this!!
@AnthonySistilli
4 ай бұрын
Appreciate you!
@azadali7114
3 ай бұрын
You mentioned you have about 4 year's worth of data on all matches on your first SaaS, can you disclose how much TB that is approximately in your AWS db? I'm currently on AWS S3 for the storage of sound recordings, im curious how that would scale approximately
@chmiiller
3 ай бұрын
"DEPLOYMENT_NOT_FOUND" looks like Vercel is playing you again
@learner8084
3 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks very much.
@gambomaster
5 ай бұрын
What would you recommend for a SAAS developed in a Django framework? AWS or Heroku? Have heard from others also regarding AWS's hidden costs. 😷
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
heroku usually is fine, easy to get started, low cost - I think with SaaS's speed is key, and AWS has a large learning curve
@ptlogger
4 ай бұрын
I assume you initial app was working like AWS based using it's features, but did you try to compare those costs with other cloud hosting, like GCP, Azure (for example)? I know you say, when the AWS costs were getting high, you moved to parts of this features to separate services (heroku, betterstack,...) but did you evaluate the possibility to move to a different hosting as a bundle?
@AnthonySistilli
4 ай бұрын
Nope! I think the silod applications like heroku, render, supabase, etc actually add so much QoL that I'd never move back to a full AWS setting.
@MetalPotionEhUmCu
3 ай бұрын
What happened to that Magik influencer startup? I tried to go on the website and it's just an error. Why did you give up on it?
@deejaydev
5 ай бұрын
Very helpful video bro, thanks so much
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Glad it helped man!
@DerekDoes...
3 ай бұрын
Why move away from betterstack if you're so happy with them?
@spicer41282
5 ай бұрын
Best Info I've Run Into So Far! I've been mulling over 2 startup concepts and been brickWalled with all the puzzle pieces and cost$! Sub'd & 👍Liked! Can you do a vid on OpenSaaS? Love your Content! Keep it Going!
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Great to hear! Haven't looked into OpenSaas but I'll take a look :)
@arnavahuja310
5 ай бұрын
what are good alternatives for aws? you mentioned to stay away from it... so what should we use instead? also, any examples why specifically it was hard to work with? just asking because i'm trying to start something of my own :)
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
I have a video of my newest tech stack on my channel!
@MikeNugget
5 ай бұрын
But why Heroku? It's 1GB RAM instance for $50 is insane.
@repotranstech9614
5 ай бұрын
Pythonanywhere 3gb ram for 5$.
@elisimic4371
4 ай бұрын
Great video man! Btw how are you getting your Instagram data via API or scraping?
@AnthonySistilli
4 ай бұрын
Fully API!
@elisimic4371
4 ай бұрын
@@AnthonySistilli Thanks a lot for the response! I am working with the Basic Display API although it is quite restrictive, I'm assuming you are using the Graph API?
@Dmytro-fr9nd
Ай бұрын
I was never able to understand what kind of SaaS can one make that people would actually pay to use.
@w3mw
5 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks for answering my question in previous video about making this kind of topic! Do you have a video about cloudflare? How to install it correctly, what is does and so on? I have heard a lot about cloudflare, but never understood it correctly. Thanks!
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Not yet! Might make something on it in the future though, great idea!
@andriypashynnyk4278
3 ай бұрын
very informative video, thanks!
@AnthonySistilli
3 ай бұрын
glad it helped!!
@digitnomad
4 ай бұрын
No Heroku, cuz, support is BAD in my experience, they shut down my application for days without a legit reason, luckily that was a PoC application. AWS is bit of expensive however, by far the best support team, most fast, reliable DB, less latency, RDS ever I see.
@bryanzawlocki
3 ай бұрын
Just ran into the billing issues with vercel, $700 bill, never been more than $100. Took them 2 weeks to respond
@TheDarkruler575
2 ай бұрын
250 dollar on aws is crazy.
@sheepgaming595
Ай бұрын
wait is that the backend for vlr? I had no idea you made that
@shakapaker
Ай бұрын
Betterstack also has uptime monitoring, or does Uptime Bot have more features?
@finn_the_dog
5 ай бұрын
This is a great video. I just found your channel, but this gold. I don't know if I missed it, but would you tell how many customers you serve with that costs or how many visits your apps get a month, mostly to estimate the cost per user (paid or not) or cost per number of hits a month?
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Yeah! For the old one we get 500k+ pageviews/month and but our rev comes from our actual SaaS subs which takes up almost no usage tech wise
@SimonF-o7m
3 ай бұрын
Supabase is based on AWS :)
@fulltimefrontend
3 ай бұрын
There are just too many horror stories about Vercel ! I would steer clear of them, one DDOS and say goodbye to profitability.
@polyander
5 ай бұрын
Vercel discourages using Cloudflare while also hosting on Vercel - what's your opinion on that?
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Personally as long as it all works fine, I'd take Cloudflare over vercel any day - as long as you disable proxying and let vercel do things like Image caching it should be okay!
@sergiob3698
5 ай бұрын
Super interesting thank you
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Appreciate you!!
@chrodin
4 ай бұрын
So you went from 6-700 usd/m on aws to 600 usd/m spread over 7 services whereof at least a few will massively overcharge regularly... sounds... not like a win?
@AnthonySistilli
4 ай бұрын
After switching off AWS last year we added a ton of stuff on - with AWS this probably would have been closer to 1k a month
@fritzfahrmann4730
3 ай бұрын
I'm here from tiktok waiting for jared
@NetoPilsen
3 ай бұрын
hey! what do you recommend to replace AWS?
@marvinlewis4113
Ай бұрын
Hey, I have a question about login and sign-up. I’m planning to use AWS Cognito since I’m not very experienced in that area. Is it possible to use both AWS Cognito and another solution together?
@heyjitendra
5 ай бұрын
Awesome video man.
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@chiqui1234ok
Ай бұрын
Hi! Why not a dedicated server with CD/CI + Cloudflare? It's not better and cheaper? (When you already configure it)
@jrapp654
3 ай бұрын
If you know what youre doing AWS can be super cheap
@denisgithinji1119
4 ай бұрын
I clicked like after you said "I hate AWS" 😅 Honestly don't even get why people keep praising this UNREASONABLY hard-to-use service
@AnthonySistilli
4 ай бұрын
Yup!!
@cirtey29
4 ай бұрын
Chad devs use VPS, mega chads have their own physical servers
@egretfx
5 ай бұрын
when you say AWS isnt cheap and others are better? which others could you at leaast mention a few? thanks
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Yeah! You can check out my tech stack video on what I currently use - but for domain buying you can use CF, hosting node applications you can use heroku, hosting React / nextjs you can use vercel, CICD you can use Gitlab
@st.toussaint4632
5 ай бұрын
Great videos!!!
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@francisnjugunaldc
5 ай бұрын
I was just about to use AWS :)
@aurelianspodarec2629
5 ай бұрын
And why are you not?
@francisnjugunaldc
5 ай бұрын
@@aurelianspodarec2629 He said we shouldnt use it if we can :)
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Haha still a decent option for more complex stuff, but yeah, I'd def steer away if there's better alternatives for your use cases
@aurelianspodarec2629
5 ай бұрын
@@francisnjugunaldc Isn't that with every single thing in our life? :) It all depends, doens't it. Its subjective based on what you need.
@francisnjugunaldc
5 ай бұрын
@@aurelianspodarec2629 I still used AWS that what's am more proficient at☺️🙏
@KuroUsagi1010
3 ай бұрын
Where is Jared?
@stanleyjekwu6810
3 ай бұрын
Great video❤
@karajkot6735
3 ай бұрын
Hi, what do you think Azure to host app and and databases so that the database connection isn't exposed to public internet?
@renato30
3 ай бұрын
what do you use with upstash that you managed to replace?
@porada_app
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, our costs much way bigger
@Kaisewhite
5 ай бұрын
Vercel and Heroku both run off AWS so you can never actually get away from AWS
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
haha atleast we can get away from their ui
@NicholasLeong-g6z
5 ай бұрын
Can I ask a question? Do you code the webapp all by yourself or use a no-code platform like webflow?
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Yup! Self coded - i have a video on my channel about the tech stack I used!
@ComfyCosi
5 ай бұрын
why not consolidate the uptime robot with the betterstack's uptime checker?
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Yeah! Actually didn't know betterstack had uptime stuff until recently, just swapped onto them for logs at first
@ButtonWalls
Ай бұрын
WHY DO YOU PRONOUNCE VERCEL LIKE THAT
@Mashwishi
2 ай бұрын
ha, i remember lots of billing issues with vercel
@shakapaker
Ай бұрын
Why not hosting redis and db on heroku itself?
@petergiurgiubeta
4 ай бұрын
Subscribed!
@andreapanzeri5252
4 ай бұрын
have you ever tried railway? I think it can be pretty useful
@AnthonySistilli
4 ай бұрын
I actually have not! What;s it about?
@justaregularguy2390
26 күн бұрын
Hi andy, can you please suggest me some gumroad alternative that provides subscriptiom methods integration with rest api and has payouts for payoneer or direct bank account? My country does not have paypal or stripe.
@shantanuojha3578
5 ай бұрын
how are you managing latency between all these servers?
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Hasn't been much of an issue! They only connect to eachother via our DB so it's the latency that you'd naturally have from frontend/backend supabase, which is quite low.
@Kelz_codes
5 ай бұрын
You can tell someone is a junior developer just by listening to them
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Hmmm lool
@psychic8872
3 ай бұрын
You can always judge people and assign labels to them after listening to what they say
@mussimbigrace3469
3 ай бұрын
What have you built beside your lil demos ? Humble yourself
@neociber24
4 ай бұрын
Do it makes any sense for you to run any of those services on a 25$ dollars or cheaper VPS?
@AnthonySistilli
4 ай бұрын
hmm there might be great alternatives! This the stack I think is the most popular then
@oscarrdy
3 ай бұрын
Is heroku really cheaper than AWS?
@danielmarco7863
5 ай бұрын
Nice video!
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the visit!
@pengurrito7136
5 ай бұрын
Why do you not use betterstack for uptime monitoring?
@AnthonySistilli
5 ай бұрын
i didn’t know they offered it!
@amerrashed6287
2 ай бұрын
What about if i deploy saas product on my vps?! Database on neon, u will save a lot of costs?!
@cotyhamilton
4 ай бұрын
“Who doesn’t like next js other than a lot of people” 😂
@jonathanrodriguez1233
4 ай бұрын
Hey, how much does this startup make per year?
@cruzergo
5 ай бұрын
Try ICP (Internet Computer) and let us know what you think.
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