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@napoleonbonaparte3790
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time and effort to do all the testing for the benefit of others. A very rare quality in this world these days. Keep it up brother and I will continue to soak up da knowledge. Cheers, Robbie
@AbrasionUK
5 жыл бұрын
These videos are absolutely fascinating and very informative. I hope your business does very well, because it's clear that you care a great deal about your craft.
@haverhillebike
4 жыл бұрын
It would probably be ideal to adjust the light as the plant grows.
@chris432t6
2 жыл бұрын
This is the first video that introduced me to the migro channel years ago and it's one of many videos that, like a great book or quality tool, should last a lifetime. Thank you always Shane.
@theproudONE92
6 жыл бұрын
I wish i could afford to buy your light just so i can show my support. You are an awesome dude keep up the great work.
@galin95
6 жыл бұрын
I think he speaks very clear, and is a good speaker.
@aficionadoofthefinestherbs4722
4 жыл бұрын
DsGalin couldn’t agree more with you! I think he is briliant all together. What a fountain of knowledge. Super honest too. Good on ya Shane boy..don’t mind negative comments..they are only jealous!! ..fekin wankers;)
@calebthekonkurer
Жыл бұрын
Great timing ⏱️ Shane! I have two Seedlings 🌱 and three more ready to Pop brother! God bless you and help grow your channel 👍🙏💯
@Rastapapulus
3 жыл бұрын
I really admire your experiment, you put so much time and energy for doing this, thank you.
@antonysmith1981
7 жыл бұрын
This took a long time to do with effort and you dislike it! What is there to dislike! This is a real test!!!
@SkandalouzStyle
5 жыл бұрын
That's just the haters going around disliking everything ❤️❤️
@lazyh-online4839
5 жыл бұрын
@Eitan Tal height affects the amount of light power reaching the plant, the title is still valid.
@jonslg240
4 жыл бұрын
This is a shitty, stupid, wannabe test. HE'S SUPPOSED TO MOVE THE LIGHTS AS THE PLANTS GROW All he proved was growing a plant 6cm from a high powered light kills it.
@tkermi
4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks. But I also wonder why the lights were not raised to keep the same distance when plant grows? Not doing this seems really strange because it is very basic thing to adjust during growth.
@stantondinger5836
4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter, they downvote everything cannabis related (doesn't matter what platform you are on unless its cannabis friendly) and also report it constantly. It's sad as I can pretty much guarantee that they are on some "drug" either in pill form or in a can/bottle or tobacco/coffee/tea. Even tea totallers were not immune.
@mmarategui
4 жыл бұрын
I think it would also be good, a test maintaining the same distance relationship throughout the crop, raising the lights as the plants grow
@PopeDPG
3 жыл бұрын
Does it make sense Shane that i think u should retry this experiment??? I think moving the light each week to ensure ur maintaining that 35cm 25 cm ect difference each frow box. I think this would make the most sense as it what i would do personally if i was growing. I love ur approach here tho amd love ur channel just wanted to add my idea to maybe give u some more content to produce. Love ya Shane u rock
@ChrisRiley3D-Everything
2 жыл бұрын
were the lights on 24/7 or was the light on and off every day like the natural sun. just trying to find out if i can grow my tomatos under 24/7 light. Thanks
@HowWeedGrow
3 жыл бұрын
Never mind. You did exactly what I expected you to do In the video
@Kezat
2 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome to see this kind of time-lapse with a camera next too the light source looking down. Would be fascinating to see how the leaves angle themselves at the light when its turned on.
@gaBetibu
5 жыл бұрын
. . . wow, thanks, so much, for this great information . . . you opened my eyes to a whole new area in plant growth . . . God Bless . . .
@JBC_cat
6 жыл бұрын
That was awesome time lapse. So freaking cool man! Amazing seeing it just grow!
@danedwards3015
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to provide us with a well informed and interesting Video. Pay no attention to the negativity, they'll only drag us down. You answered the questions I had hoped to be answered when I watched this. Much appreciated.
@portiaharger205
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking time to perform light test and share results. Very informative and useful. Question regarding reflective light…would it be beneficial to use mirrors to reflect light to plants from higher level to eliminate any hotspots, allow growth room and decrease blue (least light areas on rim/edge of growth areas)?
@jasonschaeffer2913
4 жыл бұрын
I’m new to indoor gardening and love the topics on your channel. I just bought my first led grow light and largely based my purchase on what I learned watching your channel. Thanks and Keep it up 👍
@eugenedelange8650
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Shane, your investigation and research are worthy of our esteem. My name is Eugene. We are from South Africa. We are an international grading company of different cannabis yields. We either make tea, bake with it or " - "Rooi Baard" - "Gedoogbeleid" - "Swazi" and "Malawi Koppe". If you want us to grade your product, forward a sample to 53 Kipling str, nearest corner is Edward str, in Kraaifontein. Western Cape. South Africa. Most High Regards. Eugene
@spinafire
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, great demo for stretching. I learned a lot, thank you!
@nickphinney9568
5 жыл бұрын
The tomatoe plant with the light closest to it did the best up until he let it grow into the light . As one should expect. As long as u can desipate and control the heat closer is always best my opinion.
@frank_frank_75
6 жыл бұрын
It looks like the tomato plant on the right was doing much better in the beginning than the center one, up until it started growing too close and onto the light. The center one grew but didn't have to stretch due to just enough light, but it didn't have enough light for the most vigorous grow possible. The one on the right did until it was overwhelmed. You can even see how the big leaf nearest the light was trying to not grow up into it, up until the point it could not itself keep away any longer due to the stem grow below moving it closer. Then the rest of the plant just grew like a bowl away from the intense center. I'm sure if that light would have been moved up as the plant grew it would have blew past all the others in production. I know this isn't the point of your demo but it's worth noting to show the importance of monitoring your grow light distance thoroughly throughout a grow. People don't realize that indoor lights are nothing like the sun when it comes to intensity losses relative to distance from source. If a measurement of the sun is taken and you get 1000ppfd at 20 feet off the ground you will get 1000ppfd at 1 foot of the ground. It makes no difference. The sun is so large , far away, and intense that small changes relative to those parameters are inconsequential. If they weren't then we would burn up and die just by standing outside on the top floor of a sky scrapper.
@kiwi2104
5 жыл бұрын
Frank N totally agree
@Shadowboxe
4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. The message is keep the lights as low as possible without causing damage for optimal growth or potential optimal damage if you don't react fast enough. Or play it a bit safer and keep the light close but at a safe range, margin for error without catastrophy. Mid range wins.
@partypillz3268
5 жыл бұрын
Best comparison of light height on KZitem I've seen so far especially in time lapse terms,some of the other video's I've seen on KZitem they seem to shuffle the plants around especially when comparing with their own lights-be even better if they would get a marker pen and write on each leaf 1111,2222,3333 and so on, then we would see if they got shuffled around
@benwilliams3539
4 жыл бұрын
would like to see the same test but also a few with reflective walls, see how much they actually bounce back and make useable. Also a question, does solely too much PAR harm the plant even if it's independent of too much heat? such as leds
@JasonJohnsonMa
5 жыл бұрын
This video was amazing my man. Great feel for the science but easily get it across to us newbs. Cheers
@billmancos9820
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, so very very helpful, just what I needed to know!
@rattyflood
4 жыл бұрын
Man thanks you. I have been hanging my lights at 100mm off top of plant for to long I’m trying 400mm now
@markeaton2003
3 жыл бұрын
A good experiment, and results. Thank you
@AntonySimkin
5 жыл бұрын
Very well made experiment. Good job. Thanks for sharing!
@OttoNomicus
7 жыл бұрын
I think what you need is a TIR lens, Total Internal Reflector, medium beam. Something like Ledil LISA2-M. If you download the Ledil TIR lens guide pdf, found by simply googling that, you'll see that the illustration of the beam hitting a surface, in the "medium (-M1/-M2)" section of the guide, looks very good, fairly even spread, nice round beam.
@MIGROLIGHT
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. We tested many lenses and selected a 100mm diameter, very high efficiency (96%) borosilicate glass lense, with diffuser finish. This gives a great output and most even spread possible at this scale. The TIR lenses are for narrow beam applications and not suitable for this application.
@OttoNomicus
7 жыл бұрын
I see. Just noticed your lights put out a spike in the middle. Did your designers look at the distribution pattern and say oh yeah, that is nice and even right there, I don't see four red spots at all? Because all it took me was one glance. The adjustability of the four lights is a good feature and looks like quality LEDs, just the optics obviously aren't working to spread the light at all evenly. Should either be all red or all yellow. Red in the middle and yellow everywhere else does not indicate even spread to me.
@stevenwiig3428
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! beautifully executed experiment and presentation. My only query, i don't understand the distances of the light, 15cm above the top of the pot + the distances of 25 35 and 45cm are not what i see as far as distance. They could actually be accurate to my visual eye if they were 25 35 and 45 inches. that looks more accurate. The white perimeter boards look like 4' next to a tomato plant. Am I missing something? Other than this which I may be delusional on, you made a great demonstration.
@goodtogrow7774
3 жыл бұрын
Ordered my 1st Migro light and it's taking forever to get here.. Hopefully it gets here before my grow is done. I Ordered their 310 UVB for flower.
@hopefullygreen7835
7 жыл бұрын
Really nice to see they look good at every height seems like every grow could use your lights cant wait to give one a grow👍
Great demonstration. I would love one of those PAR sensors but alas they are incredibly expensive.
@graemedevine9651
3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Thank you for your time and knowledge.
@NDRAMSMOOTH
5 жыл бұрын
The amount of dislikes for this mans efforts clearly show the condition of the world we currently live in. One thing you can be sure of, we will not be experiencing a shortage of DICKS anytime in the near future. Thank you for your efforts in providing knowledge to a severely dumbed down and rude society sir, I appreciate your extensive work to provide us with very interesting info.
@robertosantiago2508
3 жыл бұрын
Great and informative video . I really enjoy watching your videos
@Jyroskope
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I guess one should be able to narrow down the spread of light with a lense. In that way the light source could be positioned further away from the plant.
@ChrisC808
6 жыл бұрын
I aspire to be as chilled as this guy..
@saltlifefishingchannellets2437
3 жыл бұрын
I recommend a video just like this but with the light outside in a open lighted area..
@Kitchissime
4 жыл бұрын
So it's really as follows: Light high: for seedlings growth. Light low: for generative phase. Intermediate is for vegetative, past-seedling stage.
@notyaavridge2660
4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou
@highdrogrower5007
7 жыл бұрын
Good to see a company competing with the big boys that's not from the USA, would love to see what kind of yield the Migro 400 would put out in a scrog 4x4 tent in a controlled test with clones (cannabis of course: ) Price is a little to far from reach for us mere hobby growers at this moment in time, I wish you all the best of luck though.
@MIGROLIGHT
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. We have a 15% discount offer this month on instagram. Brings us lower than many competitors. Checkout 'UK closet grower' in our grow diaries section for yield result of MIGRO 400 VS 600w hps
@highdrogrower5007
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks just checked out his grow, impressive. I would think with proper plant training and using a scrog setup you could easily pull over a gram per watt. I'll put the 100 model on my Christmas list be nice doing a side by side grow with my Mars Hydro's.
@MIGROLIGHT
7 жыл бұрын
+The Budget Grower Cool. Email me when you decide. I'll look after you. Take care. Shane
@highdrogrower5007
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shane, just sent a mail to your info address.
@theproudONE92
6 жыл бұрын
Hey is the discount still around?
@florafaunaful
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent talk. Thank you. It's easy to criticise, but nice to see the results. Thank you for the very nice placement. What was the temperature?
@setesuper4611
3 жыл бұрын
Allways great vídeos! Congratulations and thanks for share!
@conormurray6227
6 жыл бұрын
Great video, great product. Thanks for making indoor gardening simple.
@SlabHardcheese
Жыл бұрын
Does it make sense to use a bit lower par in early veg (talking autos flowering small plants) to make it stretch a bit to build a larger framework, then pump the par when it goes into flower? Can you make autos too small by giving too high par early? How do I find the optimal par throughout the growth & flowering cycle for largest yields with autos?
@Pointofnoreturn-du5oe
2 ай бұрын
I've allways gone by going in the room 10 min before the lights go out if the plant is praying it needs more intensity if they are flat it's at optimal par and if they are down as if they need watering or sleeping they've had too much. Is that correct way to do it if you can't afford a par metre?
@Someonethegoat12344
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Shane! Would love to see this test done with the new Aray so we can make an informative decision on hanging height. At 6 inches I'm seeing bleaching on uppermost leaves.
@Adamlondon
3 жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering if you could give me any advice on heating up my 2.5x2.5x6.6 grow tent during the winter in the uk? My bedroom temps vary from 15c (59f) - 22c (71f) I exhaust air out of the house through a 4’’ RVK fan with a CF attached and suck air in from my lung room through vent holes. In my lung room I keep the window slightly open for fresh air which lowers temps.. and have radiators which I don’t want on all the time.. the humidity varies from 44%-66%, I’ve just ordered a humidifier and dehumidifier to create more stability. In the tent I have HLG 260w qb v2 lights, and 3 oscillating fans.. Ideally I would just stick a small oil filled radiator inside my tent but worried about it taking up too much room as I want to fill up my scrog net completely. Maybe the radiator could sit underneath the canopy? I’m wondering if this wouldn’t burn or dry the leaves? I’ve heard ceramic fan heaters are popular too but again space and burnt/dry leaves are a concern.. tubular heaters apparently can burn holes in the tent and don’t produce much heat... As I sleep in the lung room keeping it 24 degrees all the time is too hot for me.... Any advice from the pro’s on here would be highly appreciated. Love from London!!
@ryanbuck4569
7 жыл бұрын
This is a great video to help show the need for light height
@carrieannmayer1720
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Finally, the best test video. Thank you.
@madansharma2700
4 жыл бұрын
Very well done, very informative. Perhaps I missed it the details of the light used. Also tell have you done similar studies on other plants? Regards.
@arsal6590
3 жыл бұрын
This video was amazing
@ram4546
5 жыл бұрын
This is so academic thank you so much
@travgreen
6 жыл бұрын
Always clip your lav mic right on your larynx
@flatearthgenius5732
5 жыл бұрын
DRIVING ME NUTS HEARING HIM SWALLOW AND SMACK
@kushpaladin
3 жыл бұрын
@@flatearthgenius5732 You are free to click off the video and watch something else at any time :)
@kennyfucker1
2 жыл бұрын
Nice timelaps!
@ivyriry
4 жыл бұрын
what kind of container did you use to plant? Great video, I was getting crazy with all the info about growing with grow lights (I'm a newbee) and your video finally gave me the insight I needed to make my decisions regarding my 2020 garden.
@Alexandros_Patsialidis
3 ай бұрын
I'm running my plants with 12-1.300ppfd and the top buds get around 1.600ppfd. The grow like nothing else 🤷🏼♂ No burning 🤷🏼♂ Maybe cause it's chill in there, around 24 Celsius...?
@AQUANUT
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Shane i have a question for you. You mentioned that par should not be more than 1000 at plant level. Is that for the leds or just HPS lighting. Also what would the max par for seeding be, is that still the same? I have a quantum meter from Apogee as well. The MQ 510 quantum meter
@MIGROLIGHT
5 жыл бұрын
Over 1000 causes stress but over 650 is wasted as you are going over 30 DLI (daily light integral) at 12 hours per day. The plants wont absorb more photons than that under normal conditions, co2 levels particularly. It's a trade off between hanging lower for more light reaching the plants but not too low to stress them. Thanks for your comment. Shane
@AQUANUT
5 жыл бұрын
@@MIGROLIGHT Awesome thank you very much for replying Shane i really appreciate you taking the time in helping me clear this up. I am more familiar with growing plants under water with far less intense lighting..... With a little research I may have to run a line off of my co2 tank and see if we cant get some better use of all that wasted light.
@TravelLito
3 жыл бұрын
Can you try also the ordinary strip lights? I setup my growing beds with strips light.
@taylorhickem9777
6 жыл бұрын
This was very useful for getting a better grasp of spacial lighting design for growing systems. Would be helpful to have a little more detail about the dimensions of the setup, I approximated by taking measurements from the video. Also, would be helpful to know the specifications of the light unit used total PPF (mmol/s) and energy Efficacy. Would be great to share a link to optics theory models that predict the values presented in the experimental results. Thanks.
@MIGROLIGHT
6 жыл бұрын
Hi. The grow areas were 50cm wide and 60cm deep. The light is the MIGRO 100. Click on the link in the description to view the light specifications
@TheNewMediaoftheDawn
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting experiment and it made the point... But of course in a real world scenario you’d move the lamps as the plants grew.
@chroniccare409
4 жыл бұрын
Shane can you measure par from LED’s with the sun systems par meter from amazon? I believe the sensor is a rebranded apogee MQ-200. I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question
@GiBByFRieD_ATX
3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if the question has already been asked but what kind of lamps where you using?
@wanderingtallguy6849
5 жыл бұрын
Never guessed that Noel Gallagher was into growing ..
@Null3656Null
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@matthiashilber2043
4 жыл бұрын
At least not tomatos....
@Beastygainz
4 жыл бұрын
Lmao that killed me
@Ol_Dirty_Brasky
4 жыл бұрын
Nailed it!
@neiltilling6745
4 жыл бұрын
Liam hasn't grown at all really.....
@bobcprimus
7 жыл бұрын
Can someone please get this guy a glass of water.
@ThatViralspot
7 жыл бұрын
Bob C Primus lmfao
@Grinstopher
3 жыл бұрын
why such small beds? What we ultimately want to know is how many lights we need (expense) to get a certain yield (profit). So you should put at least as many plants under the lamps as to cover the entire viable grow area. For example the entire area which receives more than 200 PPFD.
@M4KERB
5 жыл бұрын
This is awesome info. Thank you so much for this.
@RohitSingh-sc4zo
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused by "No growth at 0-250"... I have had fairly healthy seedlings at Par Levels of 230-240. And I've harvested leafy greens at levels of 250 to 350.
@Hacksaw.Jim.Duggan
4 жыл бұрын
might you be able to post a video regarding a hps 1000 watt grow light? would appreciate it...
@ghettotroof
5 жыл бұрын
man thank God for you.
@danicawang8255
4 жыл бұрын
Hello, great vedio,we have a hemp shredder, a grinder and a dryer. Do you need one?
@hq72hotmale
4 жыл бұрын
The nicest most giving man out there now go out an buy his lights ok 🤔😉😁🌈👌
@mysticmago7613
2 жыл бұрын
My tomatoes will benefit from this information
@peterxyz3541
6 жыл бұрын
Inverse square rule in the universe: double the distance, 1/4 power. Half the distance, 4x the power.
@ShawnGuertin
5 жыл бұрын
Yes for an omnidirectional source, in that case it has a lens.
@tiaan_va
5 жыл бұрын
@@ShawnGuertin this literally applies for any source with any lens on it. The amount of light will just differ between the different sources, but the the fall-off factor for light on a single point will always be affected by the inverse square law in the same manner.
@buggyridge
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent test. I did not think the light varied that much. Thank you. Eat a mint...
@smokeytad4206
7 жыл бұрын
Man I would love to test out one of those lights against my LED'S! And do a side by side grow off!
@NoahNobody
7 жыл бұрын
Great experiment, and good gob with the graphics for the light spread.
@iamsergeypak
7 жыл бұрын
Very very good channel. Thank you from Russia!
@MIGROLIGHT
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Take care
@stevero2581
3 жыл бұрын
How about the thickness of the main stem? Difference?
@madansharma2700
4 жыл бұрын
Can you please guide about growing potato using LED?
@rasjames6790
4 жыл бұрын
Where I use 4..600 wat light bulbs to cover 6 plants I have had to put them up high
@ledgrownmedicalgarden7378
7 жыл бұрын
Another nice demonstration
@campbellevan
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your informative videos!
@T-DsGaming
3 жыл бұрын
I've seen plants do the same thing as the first bay in the open sunlight, so you are trying to make it more intense than the sun for your plants in the "optimum" grow bay.
@MrDroenix
6 жыл бұрын
Very informative video! I learned quite a few new terms and theories today, thank you very much good sir for your presentation! I like the instrument that was used to measure PAR, but I feel like $295 is quite a lot if regular consumers want to purchase that particular item, are there any cheaper alternatives?? I feel like that is a tool that could revolutionize how we look at propagating and cultivating our indoor and outdoor harvests. Thank you very much, stay warm!
@MIGROLIGHT
6 жыл бұрын
Hello, thanks for the comment. The hydrofarm par sensor is very good value and quite accurate. It's about €120 online.
@silverdawn2767
3 жыл бұрын
My lights are about 3 feet from canopy I don't get stretching does that mean my lights are just stupid strong led btw
@alancoulthard9480
2 жыл бұрын
Once again cool 😊 info
@rashelrana1
6 жыл бұрын
Great Experiment and a clear explanation. Impressive. Thank you.
@MIGROLIGHT
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, take care
@shelbytiger07
4 жыл бұрын
Great job! Just what I was looking for.
@raaie7890
4 жыл бұрын
🐵
@phildobson8705
5 жыл бұрын
It would be much more useful if you raised the lights as the plants grow maintaining a larger distance Eg 2ft, medium distance Eg 1ft, and a short distance Eg 6 in, between the plants so we can see what the optimum distance to maintain above a growing plant. We keep our tomato plants at the same height (approximately 12 ft) by lowering and moving along the tomato plant every week. It's useful to know what distance the top light should be, what distance the interlighting should be, but it would not be useful to see your experiment of just letting the plants grow and grow into the light. We have 10,000 square metres with LED top and interlighting and a 5,0000 sq meters sodium lit house. 600 Watt sodiums and 105 watt (actual) LEDs The inter lighting LEDs on more than 6 inches from the plants and form a constant line 100m row None of our lights have fans.
@flowerpower8847
6 жыл бұрын
thanks for coming back ,massive help.what the price on a single migro?
@MIGROLIGHT
6 жыл бұрын
Depends on where you are. We ship globally with good rates. Take care
@flowerpower8847
6 жыл бұрын
south of ireland
@71160000
5 жыл бұрын
Not sure it's the intensity of the lowest light that's burning the leaves but rather the higher temperature that close to the light.
@korayturkson9674
6 жыл бұрын
cant you use reflective materials on all sides of the plant to increase the level of PAR in all areas? e.g. mirrors or even paper foil?
@CPTLYNXY
5 жыл бұрын
Yes but you must take heat into consideration
@danroden830
3 жыл бұрын
what about with reflective top and side walls?
@pipblack1618
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, not heard of PAR before. Good information you have a new subscriber. What lights did you use? Be interesting to see LED lighting too. Good work buddy.
@chrisapplewhite6660
5 жыл бұрын
Most people in your generation haven't heard of anything
@nothanks461
4 жыл бұрын
Chris Applewhite ok boomer
@professor4202
4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisapplewhite6660 LOL.
@carlososorio8291
5 жыл бұрын
good video a question how much light they give to the plants in the day, I mean how long they leave on the bulbs during the 24 hours grace greetings from Colombia
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