That was a beautiful piece that made me cry. I'm not Native American/Indigenous but I'm so happy that your team shared his story and displayed his craftsmanship. These are the historical facts/stories I rarely hear about or see in history books. It feels amazing to see this beautiful community represented. May his legacy continue long after he's gone. Those are irreplaceable works of art.
@AngelusNielson
Жыл бұрын
I was so thankful to see he had an appetence myself.
@AngelusNielson
Жыл бұрын
@@therealgoody Nobody said it was. You must be fun at parties. Oh no, wait you probably don't get invited to them.
@danfarkas5375
Жыл бұрын
@@therealgoodywould you mind enlightening us on how indigenous people DID make sticks? We're all waiting.
@leilanidiggs2618
Жыл бұрын
@@danfarkas5375nah fr he needs to shut up unless he knows the exact methods they used
@dotdotdotdotdotdotdottod
Жыл бұрын
well neither was the people in the video but they seemd to appreciate it
@maxxfenning2560
Жыл бұрын
I wasn't expecting the ending for some reason and it literally wrecked me. Thank you for telling Alfie's story
@chrisgeorge84
Жыл бұрын
Same, when he said he got weak again I knew it was coming. I let out an audible “noo”
@Peydonary
11 ай бұрын
Same!
@pgcracker82
5 ай бұрын
I thought when they said "his final stick" they maybe meant he was retiring.
@Maplenr
Жыл бұрын
Man, that ending hurt. What a beautiful life he lived. May he rest easy amongst his forefathers
@piplup10203854
Жыл бұрын
It makes me glad he has an apprentice, I wish this was the history that was taught in classes. There are so many beautiful crafts that are tied to equally as great people who share a rich history and this work, although tough, should be preserved protected and promoted. It's great to see it here. I really enjoyed the episode :)
@backdraft916
Жыл бұрын
“…working on the last stick he would ever make…” That was a hit right in the feels.
@NinjaTyler
Жыл бұрын
When they suddenly started using past tense lesding up to that I got incredibly nervous and that still hit hard for a man i just learned sbout 15 minites ago.
@zigwil153
6 ай бұрын
yes... the "gut punch"
@nolanmcleod2619
6 ай бұрын
Amazing editing tbh but it sorta seemed like it was meant to be right? Alfie held on long to enough to pass on his knowledge through this video 😢. It should survive forever
@CyberSquirrel49726
6 ай бұрын
I got chills when I heard that line
@jonbird6566
6 ай бұрын
Then they came in with that complementary blow that "He was buried at Onondaga, with his lacrosse stick in hand". What a fitting traditional burial for a man who dedicated his life to the sport.
@AdamHay
Жыл бұрын
It's such a massive relief to see such respectfully told tributes about wonderful craftspeople, culture, heritage, and life. Thank you! I think we could use a lot more of this these days.
@HAHb-zc2dp
11 ай бұрын
I agree. We need to teach the real history of these people j clueing the fact they had war crime slaves murder and alcohol. I'm so sick of people lying about factual and known history. Also Indians did NOT invent beads or beadwork that's a recent one I have keep correcting people on
@Snarkbar
Жыл бұрын
"He was buried with his lacrosse stick in hand." I can't think of anything more fitting. RIP.
@Gerbs964
6 ай бұрын
idolator
@IlIlllIIIllIIlIIlII
5 ай бұрын
@@Gerbs964 jesus christ was a charlatan
@Gerbs964
5 ай бұрын
@@IlIlllIIIllIIlIIlII Every knee will bow buddy. We will see how much you have to say at your judgment
@based8134
Ай бұрын
@@Gerbs964fuck your god
@TonyBullard
Жыл бұрын
Watching him lean on the stick he made, fingers woven, telling his story...it's a beautiful image.
@unknowncreature-0069
Жыл бұрын
That's so cool. I love learning about native American traditions. There's a college near me where all the native American students got together and built a traditional kayak using their grandparents knowledge and trial and error. Nobody thought they could do it but they paddled that thing all the way across the lake. It was absolutely amazing.
@sebaschan-uwu
10 ай бұрын
I am a huge supporter of native american culture
@srobeck77
5 ай бұрын
@@sebaschan-uwu Indians, only white woke people call them natives. Show some respect
@Kotte2000
Жыл бұрын
What a great story dude!!! Craftsmanship and his passion to work was undefeated Rest in peace 🕊️
@josebravo5125
Жыл бұрын
RIP Alfie. You made the stick and carried it till your last day. You preserved your culture and shared it with the world. I salute you master craftsman for keeping the tradition going.
@SurajSrinivas6
Жыл бұрын
Started carving at 4 ended up making it his career filled with passion and had an nobble end with something he held close.. what a legend ❤️
@sophiaisabelle01
Жыл бұрын
We will always support this channel. We learn a lot of significant information from all this.
@electra424
Жыл бұрын
Wow that was so beautiful and sad. A true legend was lost, but his passion for the sport and his amazing craftsmanship and artistry should never be forgotten. Rest in peace, Alfie.
@Aya-xu1xk
Жыл бұрын
A good man and a legendary artisan. May he rest in peace.
@BoyProdigyX
Жыл бұрын
I am DEVASTATED by this loss. Alfie had the qualities of a Kung-fu Master. He had this Zen air about him that complimented his expertise in a way only the master of an ancient craft can. Be at Peace Alfie! Great on ya for pushing through the throws of cancer and holding on long enough to ensure such an important piece of our history is kept alive!! They're beautiful works of art that will carry on your (and our peoples') legacy, so thank you. Also grateful to his students, who are now well equipped and capable of making their own history, thanks to the tutelage of one of history's great Masters.
@Sandlin22
Жыл бұрын
🙄 did you know him? If not then "devastated" isn't the word
@BoyProdigyX
Жыл бұрын
@@Sandlin22 Don't tell other people how to talk and how to describe their feelings... troll.
@johnfry
Жыл бұрын
@@BoyProdigyX Nah man, Im with @sandlin22. You write as if you knew him personally but at the same time, the voice of a stranger. If you did know him personally, now you know why that comment was made. If you didn't know him personally, it's disrespectful to put on airs like that.
@BoyProdigyX
Жыл бұрын
@@johnfry Well, MAN, it's also way too familiar the way trolls like you and your friend think they can tell other people what they can or can't say or how to feel. Nobody is "putting on airs", either. Black and brown people have a higher respect for one another and our cultures', and that's something y'all will never understand. And if you don't like something, there's nothing wrong with saying nothing at all. You're turning a few kind words into something nasty, so take advice from a grown up, and if you have nothing nice you say, then keep your troll mouth shut!
@Domedwho
Жыл бұрын
@@BoyProdigyXlmao wtf
@mysticaltenderman749
Жыл бұрын
As white male in the US at lacrosse practice we would always talk about how the native americans invented one of the best sports in the world, we really did admire it.
@Lastburn
Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear he has an apprentice
@ghufrananaqvi9031
Жыл бұрын
He had an apprentice. The poor man died.
@messagegoeshere741
Жыл бұрын
Looked to me that he had a great life, one he could be proud of. Not many are that fortunite. Wouldn't call him poor at all. He'll be missed. R.I.P
@ghufrananaqvi9031
Жыл бұрын
@@messagegoeshere741 True, but I meant poor as in challenges he faced. He was a great man and an inspiration no doubt.
@rynejohnson1512
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. Having one of his sticks has been a great honor for me. He was a gift to the game and a great loss to us all. The day he passed I had the kids in my clinic play a medicine game for him. The kids said it was the most fun all week. Thank you Alfie it was and please meeting you.
@jujitsujew23
Жыл бұрын
A true legend has passed. I hope dearly that his sons and others are continuing his craft. Native American traditions like this must celebrated and kept alive. Rest in Peace
@dazedneptune
Жыл бұрын
This was beautiful. Thank you for telling his story and sharing his craft and culture with us. He lived a rich life.
@xLazarusEnvy
Жыл бұрын
Have loved lacrosse since I was very small. This was an excellent video all around and it pains me to know Alfie passed away. This video made my day. Thank you.
@asandstorm
Жыл бұрын
I never knew that Lacrosse was an Indigenous sport. Thanks for sharing!
@krono5el
Жыл бұрын
Most things come from the 5 cradles of civilization and everyone else just adopted those ways of living and eating.
@Pou1gie1
Жыл бұрын
There is a lot of erasure involved in colonization...people also don't realize that tennis and bowling are not European, but African sports.
@gabbar51ngh
Жыл бұрын
@@Pou1gie1bowling and tennis come from Africa? Can you provide any reference for that claim?
@carlandre8610
6 ай бұрын
Egypt is in Africa and around for a long time.
@SupremeLeaderPie
6 ай бұрын
@@gabbar51ngh lmfao this is so false tennis came from "Most historians believe that tennis originated in the monastic cloisters in northern France in the 12th century, but the ball was then struck with the palm of the hand, hence the name jeu de paume ("game of the palm").[1] It was not until the 16th century that rackets came into use and the game began to be called 'tennis'. It was popular in England and France, and Henry VIII of England was an enthusiast of the game, now referred to as real tennis.[2]" The earliest known forms of bowling date back to ancient Egypt,[5] with wall drawings depicting bowling being found in a royal Egyptian tomb dated to 3200 BC and miniature pins and balls in an Egyptian child's grave about 3200 BC. Remnants of bowling balls were found among artifacts in ancient Egypt going back to the Egyptian protodynastic period in 3200 BC.[6] What is thought to be a child's game involving porphyry (stone) balls, a miniature trilithon, and nine breccia-veined alabaster vase-shaped figures-thought to resemble the more modern game of skittles-was found in Naqada, Egypt, in 1895.[4] many would argue egypt is not african in any shape or form. Many would argue that eygptians are not africans.
@joebaumgart1146
Жыл бұрын
This man did something I think we all could learn from. He thoroughly enjoyed his life. The simple pleasures of hanging out with your old man, then your son. Listening to some old blues music in a warm workshop on a cold day, enjoying a good meal with good people. This man made all his money without working a day in his life because he truly enjoyed making these sticks. When I would play with the stick he made me other players would be a lot more gentle, not because they didn't want to hurt me, because they didn't want to break an Alfie Jaques original. His name carries a legendary prominence in the lacrosse world. His sticks are considered works of art no different than a Rembrandt. The world lost a good man, but The Creator gained one! Rest in Peace, Alfie. You did a great job!
@j0nrages851
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing his story. A man who loved, not only the sport or craft, but his people well. RIP Alfie
@MamaGaea
Жыл бұрын
Such a wonderful memorial for such a wonderful person.
@bbee-canish609
Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful video to show off his legacy and the love all around him and the craft amongst the community
@theplotdragon
Жыл бұрын
The genuine smile this man carried when he spoke about his craft... It had me tear up near the end. I hope he watches over all the games from his place in the afterlife, knowing he gave so much to a sport that will never forget him!
@tonyant
Жыл бұрын
I live in the Fingerlakes Region in Upstate NY....I'm American/Italian by ethnicity, but my father gave me his wooden Box Lacrosse stick way before I ever got my first baseball glove (age 5). Since that time, I've had a number of wooden sticks, but never one made by Alfie. I've played and loved this sport my entire life. God Bless you Alfie and RIP.
@-OBJ
Жыл бұрын
RIP Alfie. Learned a lot about lacrosse because of this
@f4z3
Жыл бұрын
From a fellow wood worker with a dream of being half as remembered as he was for his work and passion, my deepest condolences and may he rest in peace. Beautiful work and beautiful film.
@ayyjack
Жыл бұрын
Played lacrosse for four years and always appreciated the Native American origins. Love to see this amazing sport/tradition highlighted like this.
@floridafrostbite8002
Жыл бұрын
This was beautiful. Other comments have expressed how amazing this was better than I could’ve ever. May Alfie’s legacy live on with this beautiful video and even more beautiful craftsmanship.
@alexiskurtz1944
4 ай бұрын
I appreciate you posting such an inspirational video. We are sharing it with all students in 7th grade in our school. It has completely changed their views on lacrosse, and gotten more than a few involved in the sport. Thank you Alfie Jacques.
@Ali-in-Wonderland.
Жыл бұрын
Wow this gave me chills and tears! This was a quality level human that are a dying breed... we must look to ppl like him, regardless of ethnic history, to be able to sustain this world. Alfie is a golden example of what to aspire to in many ways. RIP dear Alfie.
@FilbieTron
Жыл бұрын
God I wasn’t expecting to cry…this was a really beautiful story. Thank you for this
@benyap4398
Жыл бұрын
This was amazingly beautiful. A tribute to the mans unique art and skill. Thank you for immortalising this in his memory.
@LEEKYP00H
Жыл бұрын
Sad when old artist/craftsmen die. Because all the knowledge and wisdom goes along with them RIP Alfie. You are with the ancestors now.
@tomstone1797
Жыл бұрын
Great story and an apparently great man, a leader among people, a true craftsman that can never be replaced, someone who should be honored each time one of his sticks is picked up to play a heritage sport created by his people. A marvelous tribute, thank you for sharing.
@krono5el
Жыл бұрын
unfortunately there is nothing more europeans arriving in the Americas the last 400 years hate more than the godless heathens that are the Indigenous Americans. the only constant these last few hundred years is the destruction of everything native to the Americas including the land and water.
@BernieForLifeBFL
Жыл бұрын
Played lacrosse for three years in high school and man it was probably the most fun I've ever had on any field or court. Watching him create the sticks was wonderful! It reminded me of Katsuhiro Miura making golf clubs. They both just have the perfect touch to make wonderful equipment for their respective sports.
@donaldmackenzie2686
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this touching story. Chemo beats you up but he kept digging as deep as he could for as long as he could. A true warrior. Thanks Again.
@ILostMyOreos
Жыл бұрын
Really great piece. It's good to see indigenous work given the respect it deserves.
@usernameplaceholder3
Жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Alfie. Thank you for sharing your art with us. I always hope that these Still Standing videos lead to more interest in keeping the traditions across the world alive.
@joshcimerberg3492
Жыл бұрын
Rest in paradise legend. You left an incredible mark on the game and set a precedence for those to come.
@dbach1025
Жыл бұрын
Alfie seems like a cool cat to hang out with. I love how he described his ideal day perfecting these sticks with the blues seranading him while the snow falls. Purely beautiful. This man deserves a come back movie about him. I nominate James Edward Elmo's to play this gentle soul.
@cdanielh128
Жыл бұрын
Wow. Nothing hurts more than when a craftsman passes on and we are left wanting for the knowledge of our elder. Good luck taking what he taught and keeping the traditions alive. Great work capturing a legend on film.
@garymitchell5899
Жыл бұрын
Quite a few things hurt more than that I would say. Mainly because it doesn't hurt at all.
@drakovelasquez9031
Жыл бұрын
The world would be way better off if people were more like Alfie. Rest in peace 🙏
@auzziestrickley817
Жыл бұрын
This is amazing. True craftsmanship. Have never played lacrosse but do play Irish hurling. We put on a clinic for some native peoples at the Missoula Celtic fest some years ago. The games, traditions, and stories really are parallel. It's great!
@dspsblyuth
Жыл бұрын
Is that when you throw up from drinking too much?
@auzziestrickley817
Жыл бұрын
Fastest stick and ball game on grass. Ireland's national sport. Been played since pre history.
@matthewbergeron3641
Жыл бұрын
Wow didn't think this was gonna make me so sad. This man was a legend. Rest in peace
@flamingknight1356
Жыл бұрын
That ending was the unexpected ending ever for a still standing vid. May his teachings live on.
@koriw1701
Жыл бұрын
This was a wonderful homage to this honourable man. We should continue to sing the praises of the old-fathers and -mothers who have left such an imprint on our society. Our past should be celebrated, not buried. We can change with the times but keep the living memory alive. RIP Alfie Jaques.
@dadsinpads676
3 ай бұрын
Excellent piece on a legend. He deserved all that recognition and more.
@Jesselovespinball
Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful man. Simple , content and humble. We should all be so lucky . Having that inner peace is not easy to come by . Thank you for sharing this story .
@elluisito000
Жыл бұрын
God bless this man and his memory. May he rest in peace.
@seanshay998
Жыл бұрын
I grew up 15 minutes from this man. Lacrosse is a huge game in my hometown and surrounding areas. Great game. Such a rich history. The creators game. Nyawayha to this man
@ultimateterrorgaming8440
Жыл бұрын
Great story great guy RIP Alfie
@macster9938
Жыл бұрын
Very nice story about a Wonderful man who contributed so much of his life to a great global sport RIP Alfie
@mahmoudratrout1757
Жыл бұрын
Amazing story
@jkj9404
Жыл бұрын
Your a good man for putting him on a pillar so others can hear about his legend......
@rachelbridgeman4522
Жыл бұрын
There are no words to describe the goodness and devotion of this. His name deserves global recognition. Wow, simply wow.
@OTOss8
6 ай бұрын
RIP Alfie. Lacrosse is the most fun sport to play and to watch. It's criminally neglected.
@11BRelo
Жыл бұрын
Amazing. R.I.P if I knew about him sooner I definitely would’ve bought one of his hand made masterpieces even though I don’t play but to have a piece of history from this master
@tselone
9 ай бұрын
We need more video like this on the internet! Rest In Peace Alfie 😢
@dbach1025
Жыл бұрын
Rest in peace brother. I am so sorry for his family's and communities loss.
@MiniNoahTheWorm
Жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful video. I clicked on it just interested in seeing the bending of the wood but stayed for the whole thing for this amazing man
@johnrmercer4244
6 ай бұрын
God bless you Mr.Jacques for being a supplier and carrying on the traditions of the most beautiful game on earth!!👍
@suzz1776
Жыл бұрын
Welp, ya learn something new everyday. I never knew the natives invented lacrosse. That's really cool.
@Sandlin22
Жыл бұрын
They didn't. If you watched the video you'd have learned that the name, rules, and current concept is European. Natives played a completely different game with different rules by a different name. Your statement would be like someone saying the first person to stand on a board in water invented the sport of surfing 😂
@suzz1776
Жыл бұрын
@@Sandlin22 wow. Ur an angry person
@baums547
Жыл бұрын
@@Sandlin22 They did invent it, yes the game has changed, but so has every other sport. Every source out there credits Native Americans with inventing the game.
@chibbyranjo
Жыл бұрын
I really hope he taught his apprentices enough to keep that legacy alive. I can’t claim to have roots that deep, but I can appreciate them when I see them.
@Lodestar77W
Жыл бұрын
As a former lacrosse player, this is no longer just a piece of sports equipment, this is a work of art and a piece of history. I know a lot of lacrosse enthusiasts who would love to claim one of these as their own but the manufacturers are far in between resulting in very large backlogs. Even if you’ve managed to get your name down for an order, the expected arrival date is TBD. It’s a shame that the talent to make a traditional lacrosse stick is slowly diminishing and I hope the process can be passed down. Upholding the process is for sure a way to provide an important connection to the roots of the game and its history. RIP Alfie.
@IkeaManagerPSN
Жыл бұрын
Was so honored to play in that tournament and speak with him before his passing
@GhostieToasterStrudel
Жыл бұрын
Tbh I’m part Native American and I didn’t know lacrosse was a sport we invented till saw this video. Hope this mans doing well and I hope his business prospers.
@peterparsons7141
Жыл бұрын
That mans smile shows his soul. Shows his lust for life, and the beauty of the human. By sharing this little glimpse of a wonderful spirit he will live on through some young person somewhere watching this video. We could never afford a nice stick like this. Here’s something ,,,many of todays great hockey players played Lacrosse when hockey was over for the year…people like Wayne Gretzky and Doug Gilmore… they were good lacrosse players.
@bobloblawslawblog5104
Жыл бұрын
So much effort for 350$ a stick? I was totally expecting over a thousand for the level of craftsmanship! Rest in peace Alfie
@popuppete
5 ай бұрын
I agree. Some people are working for what they love and not how much they can make. Wooden sticks are a tough market for that reason. You need old trees for the strength (raising cost of materials). You need a quality build for the precision required. But it also needs to be cheap enough that a player can afford to buy one and actually use it. The feel of a good worked in wooden stick is something special. The power they have on defence is impressive because they are so rigid. But you can buy a molded plastic one with synthetic netting for half the price and it will preform much better. If you break your wooden stick it can take a while to get a new one worked in right. If you break a plastic stick you can replace it in minutes. I love the craft and what they can do but it’s hard for players to commit to a woodie. Both performance and financial.
@vrinnmetagen
Жыл бұрын
didn't expect a insider Business video would make me tear up.
@MrVeraedward
Жыл бұрын
Good to know about this man. God bless his soul and legacy.
@SoraShadowdancer
10 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to hear of his passing. He seems like he was an amazing human who did a lot of good for the world and the people in it.
@JensenHess
Жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Alfie. Thank you for everything you did for the game.
@Lightlinefisherman
Жыл бұрын
wow i played lacrosse in hs all four years and never played the sport before or after. the fact that people actually were buried with their own lacrosse stick, like i didnt know how serious and spiritual this game's origin is. This is so powerful. Thank you Haudenosaunee nation a korean american kid was able to build a life time of friendships and fond memories of team sports.
@Rowrowthegravyboat
Жыл бұрын
Rest In peace Alfie. Have Fun playing lacrosse in the sky!❤
@christopherrasnick8535
Жыл бұрын
A truly beautiful story and art.
@tastyneck
Жыл бұрын
I played lacrosse for the first time my second year of college and, while I was really bad, I loved it. It's a special sport. I'll always cherish my time in the game. RIP, legend...
@SeaMonkey137
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for honoring Native American pride. RIP Alfie.
@nordicwolf8379
Жыл бұрын
What a man. Truly passionate for his craft, heritage and community.
@Kevin-is-here
Жыл бұрын
At least we got to meet him 😢
@mfg4919
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for documenting Alfie's work and life and telling this history
@RakuSeer
Жыл бұрын
Wow wow wow. What an incredible man and incredible legacy. I'm ashamed to say this is the first time I've heard about the origins of lacrosse. More people need to know about its Native origins.
@nullobject7966
Жыл бұрын
This makes me so happy. Such a relief this legend beat cancer. It also warms my heart to see he has an apprentice to keep this alive. Much love and respect.
@frankrocha3235
6 ай бұрын
Glad to see he has an apprentice. These old crafts should never go away.
@brandonsarria7632
Жыл бұрын
Rip to this legend the amount of love he had for his people his culture and for the love of the game is amazing
@Mister006
Жыл бұрын
His people's work, the Haudenosaunee nations constitutions of peace and governance between them, was referenced as a significant basis for the US Constitution. Respect, fam!
@ricksmith7631
6 ай бұрын
I recognized his stamp from my youth when i played, never knew it was from one of the last stick makers, seeing this i wish i had of kept it. this is not a game of bulk and strength, its a game of speed and reflexes, no real corporate sponsors like most sports but a game that reflected on the strengths of indigenous peoples whos history is hundreds of years old. I am proud of my native heritage even if it doesnt represent my day to day life, it still remains. Thank you Alfie for what you did.
@elsancarlero
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Alfie! Keep playing in heaven.
@Jonathan1Lopez
Жыл бұрын
Bro I was not expecting to cry when I clicked this video. Thanks though😢 Needed this
@dasledogg64
Жыл бұрын
So entertaining and educational. I never knew the origins of LaCrosse. So glad to come across this video and that my man was able to do what he loves. Respect!
@kennethfox8628
5 ай бұрын
Wonderful story! What a lost art and to carry on the legacy of his people. From someone who appreciates working with their hands. I’m glad I had the opportunity to see this. Thank you.
@austinmccarthy9572
Жыл бұрын
I’ve never played lacrosse but watching this makes me want to try! You can tell how much Alfie cared about this sport and his community.
@reviewatrandom
Жыл бұрын
What a tremendous story. Thank you for sharing the story of our brother.
@YuanCrossXIII
Жыл бұрын
“And then they banned indigenous people from playing” Wow you stole their sport, renamed it on YOUR RELIGION, and banned them. Wow. The audacity. Thank you for shining the light on this.
@electra424
Жыл бұрын
Yes. The way indigenous people were treated in the US is horrible and has been whitewashed from history. We need to teach people the truth.
@JDoe-gf5oz
Жыл бұрын
You? It happened a very long time ago.
@kingofkings2934
5 ай бұрын
They didnt band them from playing just from playing in the league they created still pretty messed up tho
@mrthegardener
Жыл бұрын
Beautiful life story. May God rest your soul in peace.
@lkdlog
6 ай бұрын
very touching film, thanks for his story. I never played lacrosse, but I admire the professionalism and passion of that man. RiP Alfie
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