If this theory doesn't play out, it'd be a huge missed opportunity. Love this
@BWHERE
Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed!
@starenisme
Жыл бұрын
@@BWHERE actually listen to Impa's BOTW speech and think about the games being the legends of the land.
@Exarchimedes
Жыл бұрын
Okay, one problem: the Depths are very clearly the "dark mirror of Hyrule".
@paul-ernestmichel123
Жыл бұрын
@Exarchimedes at this point in history, link to the past link would have made his wish on the triforce, effectively changing the dark world Ganon created. One we would have had zero access to until the depths reopened with Ganons resurrection
@pigflatus7434
Жыл бұрын
@@paul-ernestmichel123when the criticism just makes it seem even more true
@TarsonTalon
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'm not sure if OG fans would truly be ticked off from a reboot, I'm just happy that the 'The Legend of Zelda' title makes more sense, because Zelda's actions are truly legendary now, even if she isn't the main protagonist. First she was able to restrain Calamity Ganon for a hundred years, and then she traveled back in time, only to return the Master Sword to you 10,000 years later. The title just makes perfect sense now, since in the past applying it to a damsel in distress seems kinda facetious.
@pecosR0B
Жыл бұрын
100% when playing and I saw the tears memory of her talking to mineru about becoming a dragon I realized what was happening (and that I got spoiled by accident lol) and got really sad and then when you finish seeing all the tears and you go get the master sword I was just like whoa, she really is a fucking legend
@prons_gaming5083
Жыл бұрын
Yea, turning into a dragon and setting up a full frontal assault thousands of years before hand is definitely legend-worthy/legendary
@probenfetchak8076
Жыл бұрын
If a reboot happens remember Zelda SS won't be canon no longer in the reboot series which means Hylia and Demises curse won't be canon anymore it will be just as canon as the OG Hyrule warriors is
@jordan.rushing
Жыл бұрын
As a diehard OG Zelda fan, I'm quite ok with this.
@pansnemesis
Жыл бұрын
I'm damn near 50... been playing Zelda since 87 (somewhere around there)... me personally idc if they reboot the story, I've never really cared about the timeline so much... I've always looked at each game as it's own self contained story, I enjoy the nods to other games in the franchise but I don't think about it super deep. They are legends and I'm OK with that
@SiriusCygnus
Жыл бұрын
I like to think people not referring to the gloom as malice is cause they can tell they are two separate things. Malice is more like a thick goo with some vapor like forms. While gloom is a more thin liquid substance and not as thick as malice and is much more vapor/foglike as well. It also does more permanent damage and can even effect peoples personality and mood. They gave it a different name cause they can tell it's different.
@Nyxael5845
Жыл бұрын
I like to think that malice is just an "impure" version of gloom. Since gloom comes out of the source that is Ganondorf, its effects are a more severe and causes immediate effects upon contact. Gloom can permanently wither anyone and its effects can only by cured by exposure to direct sunlight or by eating sunny foods, whereas malice is unable to even cause severe side effects outside of direct physical harm.
@chaos_mage6226
Жыл бұрын
It seems to me that malice in BotW is gloom that's had time to stew. It's congealed, losing some of its more dastardly properties in exchange for a more powerful dps.
@SiriusCygnus
Жыл бұрын
@@chaos_mage6226 yeah that makes sense
@JafoTHEgreat
Жыл бұрын
There were layers to Ganons power. The gloom was the stronger part of his evil. We never actually defeated Ganon in botw. We defeated Dark Beast Ganon. We stripped away the outer "hard" exterior to reveal the true evil. Link is a Tsundere Dark Beast Ganon is a Yandere Ganondorf is Sadodere Rauru is a Furry
@SiriusCygnus
Жыл бұрын
@@JafoTHEgreat nothing but facts
@reidthered
Жыл бұрын
Whoa. Great job. I've been playing Zelda games for nearly 40 years and I still get excited for each new installment. I'm excited for how they tie in or don't tie in intentionally the next games and then the Zelda community sees some obscure item in Zelda game number 45 in a cave and we're all "whoa! This ties in to the adv of link when the townsperson says I am error and he said that because he ate a bad mushroom that only grows in this cave."
@BWHERE
Жыл бұрын
I Am Error the secret boss of the entire franchise, CONFIRMED?
@elusivemayfly7534
Жыл бұрын
Yay! I’m another “old” fan! I’m 40, so I probably played the OG in the late 80s. So proud of the young ones carrying on our nerdy legacy 😭
@r3gret2079
Жыл бұрын
Shit I got about 30 years. NES days were something special. Fuck that Zelda 2 tho. Oh how I hated that game lol
@TheFrankrox
Жыл бұрын
Great video! This could be the perfect way for Nintendo to revisit narrative ideas from prior games while having them be consistent throughout. That's not something they intended when the series started but now it could end up being something that is easier to make coherent sense of. It could just be a different universe altogether and the timeline we're familiar with took place in a different universe entirely.
@BWHERE
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I'd love to see OOT, WW, and TP all retold with a more consistent story!
@they_fw_lei
Жыл бұрын
@@BWHERE Or you could have a more competent set of people do it better than Nintendo 😘
@saricubra2867
Жыл бұрын
@@BWHERE They are already consistent between themselves due to Ocarina of Time time travel shenanigans. Breath timeline is just a different canon.
@urielndiaz
Жыл бұрын
@@saricubra2867 exactly.
@catdownthestreet
Жыл бұрын
If they do that, I NEED another Spirit Tracks. That game is an underrated gem.
@Applemangh
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I don't think this is all that likely, but I AM SO ON BOARD for the series to do this. I'm also a fan of the idea that whole breath of the wild timeline takes place soooo long after the original three timelines as to make the split irrelevant, but it would be cool for the next game to tie the two together by keeping the same master sword: instead of forging like in skyward sword, the ancient hero could discover the ancient remnants of the original master sword and go on a quest that restores it, along with some lore that explains how it got there and ties it all in the last three games of the old timeline.
@Plumpus3545
Жыл бұрын
I agree
@saricubra2867
Жыл бұрын
Also, the Master Sword is a literal time machine, Skyward Sword spoilers: -the Master Sword is made of time shift stones- .
@charliekeet01
Жыл бұрын
I never would have thought of this, but it's such an interesting and accurate theory with little to no inconsistencies, great job! If the next Zelda was an altered remake of a Link to the Past, I'd love it! There's another cool theory I've heard about that the Zelda timeline is a loop. The sky islands from TOTK become Skyloft and the other islands in Skyward Sword, and the timeline just repeats. This especially makes sense since the symbol for TOTK (an auroboros) is a loop, as well as a lot of Zonai symbolism. But that's the thing I love about Zelda games. It's all up to your own interpretation as the player. Anyways, sorry to bother you with this long comment. Cheers :)
@BWHERE
Жыл бұрын
The Circle theory is interesting, I'll have to give it some thought 🤔
@thunderproductions5115
Жыл бұрын
I think it is an endless cycle because they’ve already established that, as I said in a comment on this thread, I think this game is the sequel to breath of the wild but a prequel to skyward sword. Thus ending and beginning a new cycle.
@RyzenZegend
12 күн бұрын
@@BWHERE I'm on board with your theory. It's so accurate. Great Job!
@SSGSativa
Жыл бұрын
There's still an old, broken down Guardian on top Robbie's new tech lab (the one that the Yiga Clan didn't take over). Makes sense what you said about Zelda wanting them out of commision and gone. I was hoping there would be some Guardians in TotK but it's ok. The game makes up for it imo.
@VictorJulioHurtado
Жыл бұрын
My beef with this is that 8 years is not enough to scrap away every Shiekah tech on the map, let alone all the stuff that's been buried deeper in those 10k+ years. If anything , the Upheaval should have revealed even more Sheikah tech in caves and the chasm
@ryanpfarr6153
Жыл бұрын
@@VictorJulioHurtadocould've all been warped? The existence of even one guardian throws a huge wrench in the idea that they just never existed after Zelda went back. Also the tapestry in Kakariko still features the guardians and beasts in the ancient calamity
@Aaron-hv4hr
Жыл бұрын
I think all the shrines simply disappeared once the calamity was gone. The divine beasts might’ve been stored away and towers put back into the ground, only leaving the guardians to be dismantled.
@prons_gaming5083
Жыл бұрын
While i loved the heart attack-inducing piano theme when you encountered them early game, i honestly totally forgot about that experience playing totk. It's been totally separated from the botw/totk gameplay loop in my head, if i ever go back and play botw I'll probably hear it and think "oh dang, i forgot guardians existed"
@Plumpus3545
Жыл бұрын
Those Gloom Hands...
@conormadigan7829
Жыл бұрын
Pretty convincing. Especially them not mentioning the triforce in the latest 2 releases. Link to the past was a masterpiece. Cannot wait.
@larareshiram1411
Жыл бұрын
LTTP bunny Link connection to the ancient hero blew my mind. I've also been thinking we are seeing a retelling of the classic Zelda games since I finished TOK. Great video
@DanielGarcia-vu2md
Жыл бұрын
Since i played botw I've had a theory that it would be a trilogy. My reasoning was based on my hopes of getting a sequel. At first i thought it was weird that link wasn't in his usual green clothes and there was heavy use of blue in the game and in the marketing/packaging. Blue was also the color of the source of his abilities, the sheikah slate. Usually blue in zelda is associated with the tri force of wisdom. which is the triforce associated with zelda. Now I see it as part of the sheikah since they used blue a lot. This is symbolic to how the sheikah had the wisdom to create machines that could protect from evil. Then totk comes out and link has a green arm and just like botw had blue, totk has green everywhere. The triforce of courage is associated with green and now the Zonai. The zonai had the courage to stand up against Ganon. So now we have 2 of the 3 pieces of the triforce as abilities for link. The 3rd installment will show link with red on him in some form and most likely be the source of his abilities and there will probably be a race that utilizes red in some capacity. Lastly we already have a connection to a hero (link) with red hair in totk. This just gets me really excited that this probably makes no sense at all.
@PhoenixRiseinFlame
11 ай бұрын
And given the naming conventions I assume the third game will be called something like “Blood of the Empire”
@Drac23
11 ай бұрын
@@PhoenixRiseinFlamey’all are tripping 😂. Cool concept tho
@EMLtheViewer
11 ай бұрын
@@PhoenixRiseinFlame "Blood of the Goddess" or something
@Carcosahead
11 ай бұрын
If red represents "power" and power is usually often associated with Ganon then there's red all over the place in both games in the form of Malice/Gloom so I don't think there's going to be a third instalment of the series. For me no DLC pretty much confirms this as it means the team of developers are focusing in the next Zelda game for the Switch 2. Edit: No DLC for TotK**
@samuellaureano9159
Жыл бұрын
I hadnt even thought about the sequel just because I've been enjoying this game so thoroughly. This theory is so fucking crazy and it makes absolute sense. They talk about the foundation of Hyrule, the hero, and all this other stuff so much yet we don't really get to see any of it; it's like scriptures or in passing conversations with NPCs. This would amazing
@Nedum05
Жыл бұрын
A sequel acting as a spiritual reboot, I’m on board for this. I can’t wait to see what’s next.
@Panacamanana
11 ай бұрын
At minimum the time between BotW and TotK is at least 7-8 years because Hudson and Rhondson didn't have a child until after BotW, and Mattison is around that age. Also just for the sake of knowledge, his hair was Pink because the Rabbit Sprite in the dark world needed to use the same color palette as the light world Link sprite, and Pink was more distinct of a color for seperation of the sprite and the backgrounds.
@Pralyth
Жыл бұрын
I think the theory that makes the most sense is that everything we experienced in past games never happened in the way we remember them. As Hyrulians pass down stories from one generation to the next, they change ever so slightly. After over ten thousand years, the stories are barely recognizable apart from certain key events that happen. This applies to our memories of the stories in past games as well. In TotK, the story in the past era was what actually happened instead of what we remember in Ocarina of Time. Many key events remain the same, at least for the events in the downfall timeline. Demise is reincarnated in the form of Ganondorf, Ganondorf starts a rebellion against the kingdom of Hyrule killing the royal family, Ganondorf is sealed away by sages for a future hero to deal with. The differences in this era include that this was the era Hyrule was founded, there wasn't a Link in this era, the king was a Zonai, and the hero of time was Zelda who came from the future. This will be Nintendo's approach to dealing with the timeline in the future also. For the next game, the events of TotK and BotW will be tales mixed with both history and legend. There will never actually be a definitive truths to the stories that happen in any of the games as future games have the freedom to retcon the events in the others. The reason they intend to go this way is so they can tell whatever stories they want without feeling constrained by having to make it fit perfectly into the timeline. I am not a fan of this approach as having continuity improves the experience IMO.
@Louw1990
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, thats what I also think. With this its also possible to have hints and events from all three timelines as they are legends and not 100% facts and maybe existed in 1 single timeline, told in 3 different stories...
@wrldonwill
Жыл бұрын
The logic behind the Hyrule citizens never discussing the Calamity is very clever on your part. Excellent video.
@BWHERE
Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@Theguywhowanders
Жыл бұрын
But it happened
@kirb7139
Жыл бұрын
This is legitimately one of the best zelda theories ive seen in a long time, a long time
@Plumpus3545
Жыл бұрын
There are some meta knowledge of the player, that Skyward Sword still holds water considering the fact that Fi is still here. Nintendo has also stated that it takes place so long after the original timelines. So it’s technically a reboot but, in a different way than Nintendo just saying “Other Zelda games? Never heard of it”.
@tiredextremely
Жыл бұрын
Link To The Past was a game that formed my founding conception of what a video game was. If we get a "spiritual successor" to that in 5 years or so, I will be so excited!
@dearqueen6795
Жыл бұрын
about forging the master sword, at the end of the hyrule historia, there is the skyward sword manga, or shall I say, the one before! In this manga, Link had been imprisoned for four years and only gets out when the people realize they need his help to defend Hylia's land (not hyrule yet). At this moment, Hyila comes down on the land on Red (Loftwing) To help too. She gives Link the sword to reforge because only divines could weild it. We mention in Totk that the Zonaï where though to be gods. At the end, The castle is raised into the sky by the master sword as Link dies in the arm of the godess. The manga depicts Link as a hylian, but a lot of things are different from the story to character development in the mangas. For example: The Majora's mask manga was made at the SAME time as the game was in development. The mangaka only had the beginning cut scene and the base story line + characters to include.
@hyperbola0
Жыл бұрын
With the release date, 3 things to keep in mind: - The switch is on its last legs (it's processor released in 2015!) and there's no way the third game will release on it at this point. I'm guessing it could be a flagship for a new console, either a launch title like Breath or a year in to boost sales like Odyssey. It would likely *have* to be on a new console if the scope of the world increased further, giving them additional processing power. - They've got a *ton* of the game's structure/assets engineered, the breath/tears game engine has been developed for over a decade at this point. Most of new dev time would be less "how do we build an entire open world" and more "ok we have this massive existing open world, and the tech expanded to add 2.5 more open worlds to it seamlessly, now just iterate on a new world to implement" (yes, this is "draw the rest of the f^%king owl") - This game was also developed during a pandemic and the ensuing global supply-chain issues. They still managed to massively upgrade the engine, develop the depths and sky islands, etc in a year less than BOTW took. Assuming we don't end up in an even worse hellworld soon, I'd guess it could be 4-5 years... still a long wait but given how 2020 feels like last year it'll probably come up a lot faster than ya think haha. Also, random sidenote. I don't expect news until like, a year before it comes out. Breath took 6 years between announcement and release and Tears took 4, and I think they've learned from recent releases (Metroid Dread/Prime Remaster in particular) that shorter hype cycles generate a lot more engagement and don't lead to as many players expecting too much and being disappointed. You can see this with the new NSMB game as well.
@BWHERE
Жыл бұрын
Did this video need a spoiler warning?
@skullkid2129
Жыл бұрын
Yes. You say some stuff from TotK like how Zelda turns onto a dragon
@cannonlamar6924
Жыл бұрын
Yes definitely
@rustynail7796
Жыл бұрын
no, the games been out for 2 months, if someone is watching a video about tears of the kingdom, its up to them at this point to be careful about what they watch.
@redspiderlilys6
Жыл бұрын
Nah the game’s been out for a while. If people don’t want spoilers they shouldn’t watch content about it
@NoahJohnson7452
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@serge263
Жыл бұрын
Sheikah Tech was torn apart off screen, they didn't explain it, but it was obviously all taken down to prevent another Calamity Ganon. Malice was a manifestation of Ganondorf/Ganon/Calamity Ganon's rage. It was anger manifested. Gloom has a greater purpose. Gloom drains the strength of anyone who touches it and feeds it to Ganondorf. Want proof? Just play the final fight and pay close attention to where Ganondorf is. Look at all the Gloom Roots underneath Hyrule. Look where they point. You'll notice that all of it points toward Ganondorf. He is drawing in strength from Gloom to restore himself.
@luissantiagomijareso.2450
Жыл бұрын
I assume Malice and Gloom are the same type of plague, but Malice is a watered down Gloom because Ganon is just a minion of Ganondorf's power. Let me explain the hierarchy. - Ganon's Malice just takes health away from you. It has a basic remedy, eating anything. - Ganondorf's Gloom takes away health and the ability to regain that health for a certain period or situation. It has more complex remedies, either eating specific food or getting to a safe place. - Demon King's Gloom is the most lethal and pure iteration. It steals your health and the ability to regain it for eternity.
@serge263
Жыл бұрын
@@luissantiagomijareso.2450 I always felt Malice was a manifestation of the hatred. Which is why it harmed you, but you could recover easily. It was basically extremely concentrated, and far denser than Gloom. Malice was thicker and denser, actively physically hindering you and harming you. Especially if you try to walk through it or touch it. Gloom doesn't hinder you physically. Yes, it's there, but it's not physically in your way, you can simply walk over it. However, it instead saps your strength and life from you, actively feeding it to Ganondorf.
@TheMikepatota
Жыл бұрын
This has me beyond excited! I’d be thrilled with a reimagining of a LTTP
@BWHERE
Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed!
@cargamer78leemarsh98
Жыл бұрын
they could mix it up a bit as well to make it even bigger by blend in alttp with albw as that is alttp,s sequel
@incognitoman3656
Жыл бұрын
@@BWHEREWhat about: the one on 3ds? Also, I have a sneaking suspicion that you included the FS Trilogy as evidence of a “calamity loop” where link beats ganon.
@PikaPikaLOL
Жыл бұрын
This is very possible, and I’d love to see a reimagining of LttP and OoT. But I’ve also heard a theory that Skyward is also a timeline split - where Demise is destroyed by the Triforce and Skyloft descends and where Link defeats Demise and Skyloft and the Triforce remain in the sky for far longer
@ZeldaNerd137
11 ай бұрын
I didnt think I could be more excited for a sequel than i was for TotK but by golly you’ve done it! I want OH so badly for this to be the direction they’re going, what an excellent turn out that would be!
@Strick-IX
Жыл бұрын
While I do think you're stretching on some points (Link's hair color, Ganondorf "shadowing" Link's movements in TotK, etc.), I personally LOVE this idea as a pitch for the next Zelda. That said, I think the implications of this - if it were to be executed in a manner that expands upon and vivifies the world(s) of Hyrule - necessitate more advanced hardware in order to run it all. Granted, I don't know much about making games - I just don't know if what I'm imagining would be able to run on a Switch. As for the Zelda timeline itself, I have always subscribed to the idea that the Legend of Zelda is, indeed, just that - a legend; a myth of sorts. Barring some (what I would call) "deuterocanonical" and "apocryphal" installments that expand on the basic "ABC" plot you mentioned (Majora's Mask and so on) and others that directly reference events from other games, I like to think that the Legend of Zelda is - like any other bit of myth, legend, or folklore - more akin to a sort of oral tradition that, over millennia and vast stretches of cultural geography, is subject to constant revision, mutation, and augmentation to suit the sensibilities and values of zeitgeist wherein the story is being told. What I might like to see at some point in the future - if the folks at Nintendo ever have the cajones to sign off on it - would be a DEFINITIVE Legend of Zelda; a primeval origin story. One could argue that Skyward Sword fits the bill, but I would like to challenge this. There is no narrative which is void of narrativity (i.e., some level of moralizing, anachronism, etc.), nor is there a narrative which is void of a narrator. Who, then, are the narrators? What is the "historical truth" behind this legend, this myth? I understand that dissecting these vicissitudes negates the purpose of having myths and legends in the first place, but still. What if Nintendo chose to explore the legend meta-contextually? In academia, we like to think that we are constantly improving our views of history through iterative and revisionist processes that seek to cultivate clearer (though interminably partial) truths. What is the TRUTH of Zelda? And why do I care so much?!
@SuperflyMiceguy
Жыл бұрын
I'm okay with pretty much any direction the series goes going forwards. I just want Link to be left-handed again is all. That's literally all I want. That was one of Link's few unique character traits that separated him from most other fictional swordsmen and they took that away in Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom.
@phoenix042x7
Жыл бұрын
A rehashing of Link to the Past could play on that frustration. Due to sprite limitations in the old game, the hand in which Link holds the sword depends on whether he faces left or right!
@FishyFuji
Жыл бұрын
Wasn't there some animations that suggest Link is still left handed but he was wrongly trained as if he were right handed?
@Zinkolo
Жыл бұрын
What if what actually happened is that some great event happens where someone used the triforce to merge the timeline and recreate the world or something like that? And that's why you see so many familiar locations and the whole land is just a mishmash of past games. This would explain why nobody is aware of the triforce and how the kingdom got refounded once again. It would also explain the zonai. Whatever wish they made probably change the world so much that it created a new race.
@xenithfreelancer
Жыл бұрын
Honestly you make a good point about switching between past and future. And I wouldn't be surprised if that's the direction they take because the master sword spent forever being repaired by Zelda who possesses light AND time abilities
@JD-xd4sy
Жыл бұрын
I do believe we’ll get to play as the ancient hero at some point, but hopefully not going back and forth to a Hyrule map reused for a third time. I also believe the memories from Zelda’s time with Rauru and Sonya mirrors the events of Ocarina of Time, maybe even depicting that game but in a reboot type of way. But with our Zelda changing history as she travels back in time aiding the founding king.
@paulsander5579
Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was between Skyward Sword and Minish Cap
@incomments2864
Жыл бұрын
@@paulsander5579 No it’s not.
@xorgehernandez3407
Жыл бұрын
My theory is that Tears of the Kingdom is to Ocarina of Time what Steel Ball Run is to Phantom Blood in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: A reboot/alt-continuity retelling of a previous entry in the series using similar characters and story beats but on an entirely different setting.
@saikonixamastein2431
Жыл бұрын
Or perhaps the Sky Islands, but before they broke apart and fell ... 10,000 years of changes
@Awnos
Жыл бұрын
I can almost guarantee that they will never ever again revisit any ideas from these games unless the next game is another direct sequel. Nintendo do not care about timeline consistency and never have.
@Tony-so1zl
Жыл бұрын
Holy shit what an awesome video and concept for the third game, really hope it’s true. You might have something here
@BWHERE
Жыл бұрын
We'll see in a short... Seven years...
@Barquevious_Jackson
8 ай бұрын
I am going to keep it real with you. Tears of the Kingdom nuked my interest for the Zelda series. It felt like nothing mattered and it was all a waste of time. They added 2 new layers and both are equally barren. They added ultra hand and took away everything else. They gave you tarry town and built your house and nobody even recognized you as if you didn't build it all. They didn't even account for your actions in the game much less your actions in the previous one, much less any of the lore in the last game. I mean how lame was this Ganondorf? He doesn't get any screen time or background, he's not the same guy, he's just some new guy named the same thing. I get that I'm not entitled to anything, Nintendo can make whatever they want, but it felt like such a waste. We waited 6 Years and even though I would have scoffed at this before release, it honestly felt like DLC. The director said they made this because they didn't know how to fit it all into DLC. They didn't make this for the lore fans or anyone wanting a story. They don't want story at all. They made TotK for Reddit clips of Ultrahand machines. It's a game with no depth that's all flash that got delayed as the scope got out of control and global events happened and the hype was never ever ever going to live up to what they were making. So... When you make the comparison between the first games and these new ones, even after I got totally burned waiting for TotK, I kind of like the idea enough to feel some investment in what they'll do next. It feels crazy to be honest.
@desmondschneider5397
Жыл бұрын
Here’s a fun fact I noticed in my gameplay experience: In Zelda 1, weather wearing the green, red, or lilac clothes, Zelda always wears the same color when beating the game.
@A_Hylian_Not_An_Elf
Жыл бұрын
Great theory. That would be great to see some events be explored more in detail.
@BWHERE
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@johndowney6923
11 ай бұрын
The only hole I see in this concept is our understanding that Tears of the Kingdom was not intended to be a sequel originally. It was just going to be a expansion that got out of hand.
@2majortony
Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best Zelda theories I’ve encountered over the years. Great job!
@BWHERE
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jorgearmandoarellano468
2 ай бұрын
10 months later and we get Zelda Echoes of Wisdom, a link to the past equivalent, this guy was right!
@ThePykeSpy
Жыл бұрын
I'm just thinking: 7 Maidens + Link in ALTTP, 7 Gerudo Warriors + 8th Warrior in BotW... coincidence? The Ancient Hero do be looking kinda sus with that red Gerudo hair.
@BWHERE
Жыл бұрын
GREAT point!
@designerwookiee
11 ай бұрын
Well, I'm sold on this theory. Sounds amazing, and the paralleling between the oldest games with the newer games would be an ingenious move. The next question becomes, can we predict even more future Zelta games based on this logic? Obviously the original trilogy of Zelda games will have run their course, but there's a slew of titles that we can pick through by their chronological release dates and speculate how Nintendo would innovate and retell the story in a modern Zelda game.
@Night-Lord
Жыл бұрын
Wait... heroines.. women.. seven.. A Link to the Past.. the seven heroines are the maidens from ALttP then. Oh man that makes sense
@GSandSDS
Жыл бұрын
Gloom vs. Malice: I play the german version and there it's called Miasma in both BOTW and TOTK. It has this name because in the original japanese script it's called 瘴気 which means miasma. So the different names come with the english translation not the original concept.
@Marek82313
Жыл бұрын
The same for the Italian translation, the name is miasma in both games
@Zinkolo
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think if they try to redo a link to the past like you said it would probably be DLC for tears of the Kingdom. I think the next game they're going to do will probably be a reimagining of the wind waker where you can actually go deep underwater and explore the abandoned hyrule.
@zeglorpskies
Жыл бұрын
nintendo rn: "find him. no one was supposed to find out about this, EVER. Find him now."
@arandomblock
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'm fine if they wanna do a reboot of the timeline. This way, they can start out doing new games and remakes knowing where this thing and that would fit in. (I just want a remaster of Wind Waker with all the cut content back in T_T That game with ToTK engine and scope would be awesome!)
@BWHERE
Жыл бұрын
That would be so cool!
@smartstuf1026
4 ай бұрын
I wasn’t sure how to feel about about this at first but I was sold on the story comparisons to the first 2 games. It kinda goes with how they want the series to be depicted as a whole, a legend. Of course botw/totk’s story would probably be retold in hyrule as the original zelda games
@fl0_hrl
Жыл бұрын
The Malice and Gloom problem is easily explained. In Japanese, each is, respectively, called 怨念(on'nen)and 瘴気(shouki) and translate, respectively, to "Hatred" and "Miasma". There's a whole lot of meaning behind this "miasma" idea but what we can get out of all that is that Malice is just a feeling of hatred manifesting into calamity Ganon and attempting to act with a replica of Ganondorf's miasma. So once the malice is proven to no longer be of use, because Ganondorf figures how to break the seal and as he is progressing towards breaking free, miasma (or gloom) leak out of him, trying to win a bit of time. As for the sheikah tech, I watched a theory video about how both Hyrulians AND Ganondorf try to get rid of it as they both consider it a liability, explaining some chasms appearing where Sheikah shrines were. These are things that can be explained so there is the explanation
@santiagopomares6287
Жыл бұрын
Malice apparently already existed with skyward sword, so I think the reason it's similar to Gloom is because it comes from a being almost consumed in it, perhaps if Zelda had malice it would take the form of a corrupted light. It's also worth mentioning that malice does appear in TOTK, when a boss dies they leak out malice and when Ganondorf summons his monsters in that flashback, it first has the color of malice before changing to gloom.
@fl0_hrl
Жыл бұрын
@santiagopomares6287 There's always a step back worth taking. Look back at how those 2 matters are called in Japanese. It is worth researching the Japanese version of Skyward Sword and trying to find if the Malice really is called on'nen. I love to pay close attention to the Japanese version and try to get the most raw translation of it instead of sticking only to the French version or the English version, which are flawed in comparison. Understanding what "hatred" and "miasma" are supposed to be, we can understand that the raw power of Ganondorf is "miasma," an illness inducing fluid, while "hatred" is that sharp feeling that makes your blood boil, you are held back from getting to afterlife because hatred, as both the zombie bokoblins in Skyward Sword and the Cursed Stalheads in BotW. Also, in Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity, there was a class of enemy called "Malice", so, in Japanese, they are called Monsters of Hatred. Consumed by Hatred, they are just much stronger. But in the depths, every common enemy from the surface is just a vehicle for miasma to reach you.
@Missingno_Miner
Жыл бұрын
-Malice and Gloom are blatantly different things. They're different colours, behave differently, and have vastly different effects on living things. Frankly, I don't get how some people could think they're the same thing renamed. Hell, they don't even originate from the same Ganondorf: since the Gerudo are confirmed to have not had a king since the one who became the Calamity, and Totk Ganondorf dates back to the founding of Hyrule, Calamity Ganon must be either the Ocarina of Time or Four swords adventure Ganondorf, depending on which of the main timelines we're talking about. -While, yeah, most of the Sheikah tech was likely taken apart and repurposed, especially since its implied it all gradually stopped working once Calamity Ganon was defeated, the idea that it's because people are afraid of them and don't want to talk about them falls flat because the stone outcropping where Vah Medoh landed after Link liberated it is now known as Medoh's Perch. If they were afraid of the beasts, they wouldn't be naming landmarks after them, especially not landmarks as central as Medoh's Perch, which is literally directly above Rito Village. It's odd to me how we don't even see ruins of the beasts, since those things are so big they would take years, possibly decades, to fully dismantle, assuming they even could: The king at the time of the first great calamity viewed the divine beasts and other sheikah tech as a threat, but seemingly was unable to have them destroyed given how he instead opted to have them buried. -The time gap is much, much more than ten thousand years. First, it likely took thousands of years for the Calamity to form the first time around, for whichever version of Ganondorf became the Calamity to go from man to pig beast to unnatural disaster. Second, again, we have whatever the time gap is between the founding of Hyrule and most other games to add to it, before the Ganondorf that became the Calamity was even born. -The time gap between the two games has to be at least 4-6 years, because of Mattison, who was born after the events of BotW and is now old enough to go to Gerudo town on her own. -TotK Ganondorf is... actually kinda indifferent to Link. After that initial attack that wrecked the Master sword and Link's arm, Ganondorf seemingly decided Link wasn't a threat and just kinda ignores him. He tries to protect the secret stones since he would rather not have the thorn in his side that the sage's successors became with them, and he does eventually lure Link into a trap, but when Link is rescued by the sages, he goes right back to ignoring him. Heck, Kohga is also mostly indifferent to Link as long as Link doesn't go out of his way to stop Kohga's plans. Sure, both Ganondorf and Kohga would love to learn of Link's death, and are more than happy to have a go at him themselves once he shows up, but neither actively seeks him out. -I think most people would actually be totally fine with a full reboot, one done for the sake of starting things over with a more or less intentional timeline from the start rather than one shoehorned in because fans started asking about it. Sure, there would be some people upset, but that can be said for any change to any franchise ever, it doesn't justify this level of secrecy. More likely they're just waiting until this subsection of the franchise is completed to fully confirm their place in the timeline. -You really went for "Breath Zelda" over "Wild Zelda" when the version of Link in both games has the title of "Hero of the Wild"? While I think it's possible that that these two games could be acting as a soft reboot, I don't really think it's to the degree you're suggesting. You're kinda cherry-picking and exaggerating the similarities between these games and the early games of the franchise. And this idea of "macro and micro-timelines" just comes across as tinfoil hat thinking to justify the presence of the various replicas of items from other games and the confirmation that BotW/TotK are connected to the rest of the timeline, simply way in the distant future relative to the others.
@Alex-hj2jd
Жыл бұрын
I hope this is just a phase. I like the og timeline way more.
@CosmerenautNaydra
Жыл бұрын
The newer games don't have the same narrative "charm", I suppose. I don't think it's entirely nostalgia talking either. ETA some ass commented something to the effect of people liking MM because they're bored of the "same old story" and MM tried something different. First of all explain why the biggest criticism of BotW/TotK is its departure from the old games, second of all explain how MM is so different when it contains so much of the same core lore, third of all don't post/block like a coward lol
@pixywings
Жыл бұрын
Gloom: The translators failed to make it sound even remotely threatening. Seriously GLOOM? They should have called it Miasma or something. Apart from that it is clearly different. Malice is bright pink, can be gaseous or liquid, and when in liquid form it drains your life away. Gloom is deep red, can be gaseous, liquid, or solid, and not only drains your life away, but makes it so that you cannot heal. Gloom also damages weapons, whereas Malice did not. Sheika tech: At the end of BOTW Zelda mentions that the divine beasts stopped working. Also, the kingdom probably didn't want any old Sheika tech left after the calamity was defeated because they didn't want Gannon to be able to take over the machines again. So, they took it all apart and repurposed it. Several Players have also noticed chasms where shines used to be. Some fans have theorized that Gannondorf wanted to destroy the shrines so that Link could not use them to regain his strength again.
@zeadeltanova12
Жыл бұрын
This theory is making me excited for the next zelda. I never got to play link to the past entirely, but it'll be really nice to see it in breath format!
@frewtlewps1152
Жыл бұрын
I believe BoTW and ToTK parallel the events of multiple games at the same time: 1) ToTK’s flashbacks with Zelda have similar events to OoT’s child section, and Zelda 2’s backstory. 2) BoTW is combination of Zelda 1 and Majora’s Mask (you visit four regions, help grieving spirits pass on, and defeat an evil being in the center of the world with four giants). I believe the reason why Majora’s events can occur is because Ganondorf hasn’t woken yet. 3) ToTK’s present parallel’s Zelda 2 and OoT’s adult events. Sending the Master Sword back in time is the same as pulling it from the Temple of Time as a child. Pulling the Master Sword out of the Light Dragon’s head is the same as Sheik’s reveal. Like you said in the video, the next Zelda game may be about the Ancient Hero, and the story will be a combination of ALTTP and Skyward Sword.
@MrForddude4
Жыл бұрын
This would be amazing if it's the path they take! Definitely, by far, my favorite and most well backed up theory I've heard!
@gmaster2647
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I've wanted more of the Ancient Hero ever since I saw the Aspect in TotK, so making a prequel about him and framing it as a spiritual reboot of ALttP would be fantastic. I've also had an idea that while the events of past games have happened in the BotW continuity, they're so far back in the past that they've become distorted and turned into legends, which embraces the name of the franchise. My reasoning is that there's too many connections to OoT with TotK's history, that it has to be a retelling of what "actually" happened in OoT, with OoT the game being the legend that was passed down. My points of reason: - Ganondorf swears fealty to the king of Hyrule in an attempt to take over. - OoT was marketed to be the Imprisoning War mentioned in ALttP's backstory pre-release. - In Link's backstory of OoT, he was brought to Kokiri Forest by his dying mother in the midst of what appears to be a civil war. In TotK, Rauru becoming king and establishing Hyrule brought peace to the land, which was stricken with war and violence. - Ganondorf is sealed away by the help of seven sages, four of which are unnamed but wear Zonai masks extremely similar to the Divine Beasts. Said Divine Beasts were designed by the Sheikah (likely using the masks as a template) to honor sages who sealed away Ganondorf, who we thought to be the OoT sages judging by the names. The details of said events happened so long ago that they've become lost to time, such as it taking place during Hyrule's founding, Rauru simply being referred to as a sage, Mineru being replaced with a Sheikah leader (both advisors to Zelda), the Rito sage being replaced with the Koroks' ancestor, and even someone named Link being considered an asset to The Imprisoning War. What Zelda told Rauru and Sonia about him, word likely got around in the kingdom and got mixed in with the stories of the Imprisoning War.
@Dragaconic
Жыл бұрын
This is such a well written, well structured video that I found fascinating and intriguing. I really hope that this speculation will turn out to be true, as a game like that sounds like it would be amazing. Only time will tell I guess.
@BWHERE
Жыл бұрын
I hope so!
@JDQuote
3 ай бұрын
I like this idea a lot. I had a similar theory to this one, but instead I considered Age of Calamity as the "Zelda 2" of the reboot, with Tears being ALTTP (mostly because the Depths kind of looked like a different take on the Dark World). However, I think your idea makes more sense. I kinda like what they're doing now, it's almost like how the last 3 parts of JoJo are somewhat of a retelling/reboot of the first 6 parts.
@averything64
Жыл бұрын
This was such a great vid! Honestly the most believable theory I've heard about the timeline! Also, as I remember someone else saying, minor inconsistencies could be explained by some of it ACTUALLY being legend.
@phoenix042x7
Жыл бұрын
The possibility of loss of information over time as legends pass on has definitely been sorely overlooked by many. +1 on this.
@batmeme7486
Жыл бұрын
Dude this genuinely makes so much sense. I like how beyond the whole "oh, BOTW & TOTK take place eons after the rest of the series so continuity doesn't matter a ton" line the community's mostly embraced, you touch on how BOTW is itself a semi-remake of the first game, explaining away the timeline-jumbled references to past games as examples of how the events of those games did happen this time around, just slightly differently because its a new instance of the same overarching cycle. Sick!
@carriejohnson4922
Жыл бұрын
Well malice and gloom are completely different, malice was the hatred from demise in the form of malice. Gloom is from Ganondorf, gloom can effect hylians just by being around it, that’s why link and Zelda went to seek where it was coming from in the first place. And why All the weapons are damaged from it. Malice didn’t make the hylians sick nor damage the weapons in the way the gloom has done.
@CoenBijpost
Жыл бұрын
People tend to forget what the word Legend actually means. It’s not a complete, chronological and factual retelling of events. It’s an often retold and embellished version of long forgotten events, most of the time only recorded on paper thousands of years after the original events. Nintendo seems to treat every game as a story being told through gameplay of a legend that has had the ACTUAL legend treatment. We’re not in a factual universe, but a mythical one. I wouldn’t be surprised if your theory is correct and we’re now coming into a new era, where the legends of the original games are going to be retold in actual fact. We’re now living the lives of the protagonists, not playing a story about legendary heroes. I really love how you completely covered both earliest games inside the lore of these two newest ones. This is the most plausible theory I’ve seen yet, tbh. Edit: oh wait, I wasn’t at the point of the macro timeline repeating part. That could also be an option, but I really feel a factual retelling fits better with the fact that these are the most realistic Zelda games to date.
@lukejones7164
Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video, I hope Nintendo uses your ideas for the next game.
@colemanmyers8081
Жыл бұрын
dude YOOOO this is MAGNIFICENT. I subbed and shared this with anyone that would listen, you deserve so many views on this!!
@BWHERE
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TheSorrel
Жыл бұрын
I think your theory about Breath and Tears sharing a lot of parallels with Zeldas 1 and 2 is spot on. I would say however, that its not Nintendos style to be that predictable with its sequel, even though Nintendo has changed somewhat in the last few years. And as much as I like the idea that they keep exploring mysteries of this Hyrule setup in Breath, I think two games set in this game world is enough already. I want something completely new.
@crowquet56
11 ай бұрын
They could be in the same timeline but in a different location, it doesn't necessarily need to be Hyrule
@johngarrison5839
Жыл бұрын
Definitely makes sense and having played this series since the beginning it makes even more sense. My only issue is when you mentioned the dueling peaks once being one whole mountain you then switched images to hebra peak, two completely different mountains. I know it was most likely for an example and there is no asset for an unsplit dueling peaks, just triggered me a but for some reason tho lol. Otherwise it is very compelling and im all for this actually being what happens lol
@andreykus8094
2 ай бұрын
Bro, you are very smart.
@BWHERE
2 ай бұрын
That's why they put me in "special" education!
@desmondschneider5397
Жыл бұрын
So this theory is basically similar to the ouroboros theory… The timeline repeats itself, but in a new way each time.
@megaman37456
Жыл бұрын
People don't seem to realize that ToTK isn't a retcon, it's the end of the OG timeline, Rauru founded A Hyrule but he didn't found THE FIRST Hyrule. Rauru's founding of Hyrule still takes place thousands of years after all the other events.
@BearSaidNo
Жыл бұрын
This is the only truely satisfying theory I've ever seen about the totk lore
@sibula2
Жыл бұрын
fun fact: zelda totk was gonna release in 2022, they just decided to have one more year to polish the remaining things in the game
@mrbiscuits001
Жыл бұрын
Whilst my standing belief is that all the events both past and present are all at the end in a timeline merge and so on, these parallels you saw are honestly super well put together and them being a re telling of the original three games honestly makes lot's of sense. Hyrule's history does rhyme after all, so maybe it's a re telling of old events at the end of the timeline. For a game about the ancient hero, I would say it would likely be another Hyrule Warriors game called something like "the ancient war" as it was only a single conflict, I could be wrong though as the parallels to a link to the past are very intriguing.
@benjaminrivera-sm2sf
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact in breath of the wild Zelda says “it seems the divine beast stoped working” if u get all the memories so theirs ur right answer for that
@ProphetofGermaine
Жыл бұрын
It’s kinda like how berserk repeats itself throughout the story. What if also the legendary hero is like similar to fierce deity and it’s like the most powerful version of that one
@adamwalkervfx
Жыл бұрын
"Hey all. In this video, I'll be covering how Nintendo is rebooting the Zelda franchise. But first, we need to talk about parallel universes." - B-WHERE, 2023
@sketch4363
Жыл бұрын
This actually works really well with the ouroboros theories bc instead of the timeline just looping around it actually feeds into another version of itself replaying all the same events
@Moshuun
Жыл бұрын
It’s why they revealed the symbol of the ouroboros. It’s the fate of the series. To technically start over. BOTW is so far ahead, that it’s at the beginning.
@grahamcolumb1289
2 ай бұрын
I think maybe all we can really learn from this is how the 'legend' of zelda is actually the story of a boy collecting items alongside a magic sword to free zelda and destroy evil. And each game finds a way to reiterate/reenvision this framework with some other recurring elements (sages, dark world, three keys etc)
@LinkageAX
Жыл бұрын
Small correction: Zelda 2 takes place in the neighbouring Hyrule, established by Zeldas corrupted and then uncorrupted brother
@JafoTHEgreat
Жыл бұрын
Rauru was the ancient hero maybe? We get to play as Link inside the mind of Rauru in the ancient past before he founded Hyrule. Where we get to battle in the dark world. That's why they didnt want to reveal totk name at first. They said it would reveal too much. Then totk was announced and the logo had the an Ouroboros. We are restarting the whole entire story of Zelda.
@DanielVCOliveira
Жыл бұрын
I think you're onto something. There are major parts of the lore missing from the 'Breath' duology, but the games themselves hint at those, it's not like they don't exist in this version of Hyrule. Plus, for a game set "in the sky", TotK lacked a lot of sky content. And it doesn't even have real flight. I think the third installment will be set in the sky proper AND in the mirror-world like you predicted. And have underwater exploration this time around. Also I think the next game will be a next console release, to help sell the console itself. Hoping it's a Switch Pro, which would guarantee backwards compatibility with the Switch.
@aydanwessels761
11 ай бұрын
I would like to see a game where a time traveling, dimension hopping sacred realm agent (such as a distant future/apocalyptic Sheik alternate) has to battle dark agents (such as Twili/interlopers/dark link) to secretly set up the devices and puzzles to test, guide, and aid the hero to a good outcome. Suffering of the people caught in the crossfire of hero vs evil loop and all that. Can't interact too much or you risk paradoxes or something worse. Maybe spice things up with the Ganons are getting progressively more powerful and you need to investigate why. Just imagining all the different hyrules with different mechanics and equipment makes me so happy.
@ET-bc4yj
Жыл бұрын
Someone at Nintendo is watching this video right now like “write that down… WRITE THAT DOWN!”
@TheKageokami
Жыл бұрын
At the end of breath of the wild Zelda says that all of the divine beasts and sheikah tech had stopped working so it’s presumed they were all disassembled by Zelda and the sheikah.
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsc1447
8 ай бұрын
to add on to the theory about what happened to the Shiekah tech; in the true ending of botw, Zelda mentions that one of the divine beasts has stopped working. what if the malice possesing them and the guardians was the only thing keeping them operational after all these years, and with it gone, they all eventually lost power and / or broke down. also quick theory about the timeline reset: what if someone, at some point in one of the timelines, made a wish on the triforce to try and break the cycle of demise, and in order to do this, the triforce basically reset the universe.
@Nyualum21
Жыл бұрын
Idk if I totally agree, but this was a great watch! TBH though I don't think a majority of us og fans would mind a reboot like this. The LOZ games are so loosely connected anyway I dont think it would take anything away from the fans by starting up a new separate timeline section of games.
@ssjgotenks2009
11 ай бұрын
rbooot usck and ruin shit all the time so no way wodo want zedla seire to be kiled off
@Nyualum21
11 ай бұрын
@@ssjgotenks2009 I really hope English isn’t your first language 😂
@BNWilliamGaming
11 ай бұрын
I played my first Zelda game in 2023, it was the Legend of Zelda. Now my top 3 Zelda's are Link's Awakening DX, Zelda II, and The Legend of Zelda.
@trsskater
11 ай бұрын
It fits in the timeline by being at the end of all the timelines. It has elements from every time line like as if they merge back at some point. And the creaters even said it fits in at the end and not exactly which one because its all of them.
@xxxmamxxx
Жыл бұрын
Mattison is turning 7 in TOTK. Her parents meet and marry during the Tarry Town side quest in BOTW, and she is not yet born. This gives a pretty solid confirmation that TOTK is at least seven years after the events of BOTW.
@Ayundaru
Жыл бұрын
This is a really amazing theory. Assuming this is all intentional on Nintendo’s part, this is a really creative way to “remake” a game without having the tackiness of a 1:1 remake.
@Red_MOON187
Жыл бұрын
21:11 Cool idea. I always found it strange that Ancient Link and Ganon have such similar appearances. Maybe that scene of link defeating his shadow, the shadow becomes Ganon. Ganon being an ancient evil is actually the shadow of the Ancient hero, which is why Ganon looks like him. Even after constant Reincarnations, he keeps that form, which is why Ganon always has grey skin like the Ancient Zonai.
@a_d3mon
Жыл бұрын
B-Where I'm sorry for the incoming essay. BotW/TotK Ganon was sealed for 10k (MAYBE 20k) years only. They even mention it in BotW/TotK. When he was first "defeated" (it was mistranslated and should be sealed) in Age of Calamity is more of sealing him away, which only held for an additional 100 years before he breaks out again which results in a guardian that Zelda repaired, as a child, going back to her child self in the past at about the time she discovers her powers (never really mentioned in botw or its events) to try and stop it. So, IF Age of Calamity is canon (which Nintendo has said it's not), it SHOULD be taking place about 9.9k (MAYBE 19.9k) years after the sealing of the latest iteration of Ganondorf. Then BotW takes place about 100 years after that, and then TotK somewhere about 3-7 years after that. My theory is that BotW/TotK takes place 20k-30k years after the last known game in the timeline(s), with some shenanigans happening sometime in the 10k years BEFORE Rauru sealed Ganon (which again was 10k years BEFORE BotW/TotK) to cause all 3 (maybe more) timelines to merge. I THINK that the Zonai's timeline was starting to fall apart at some point because of how many fractures were caused in OoT and they set to work to try and repair their own timeline. They would end up with a permanent solution of FORCING ALL timelines into one with the knowledge they had. They've been shown to be able to manipulate space and time, which basically every universe consists of. Not knowing they'd be introducing themselves to disaster they went ahead with the merging of timelines and it caused mass destruction which destroyed much of what already existed across all 3 timelines (which is why the ruins for so many places exist). Due to their forced merging it interrupted the cycle and created a weakened version of Ganondorf (not necessarily Ganondorf but could be some other entity) in their new timeline who managed to wipe out most of the Zonai because the evil of the time recognized their potential to stop them. A new Hero emerged (could be Hylian or Zonai), defeated that evil, and then the majority of the Zonai died off as well over time while they (Zonai, Hylians, Gorons, Koroks, Rito, etc.) tried to rebuild what was lost. This resulted in Rauru becoming the "first king of Hyrule" about 5k-10k years later (or perhaps MUCH earlier) as they FINALLY rebuilt what they had lost and overcome their differences with everyone. This would then lead into the BotW/TotK games which reveals Rauru's impact 10k-20k years previously and bring to the surface (haha pun) history that had been lost. The people then would keep track of this ancient history. Now, if it's supposed to be cyclical like the Ouroboros entails, this means that the Koroks could then potentially evolve into the Kikwis (mainly because they're both neither plant nor animal) while the Hylians, and possibly Gerudo, continue to improve upon Zonai constructs/technology and eventually move into the air due to some unknown disaster. The events of what had happened in BotW/TotK would then be regarded as legends/history which is slightly reflected in Skyward Sword. Calamity Ganon/Ganondorf of BotW/TotK caused massive destruction and deaths and ultimately turned into a Demon Dragon who was then beaten by a chosen Hero and the Dragon of Light. It's not entirely unreasonable that thousands of years later people just shorten what BotW/TotK Ganon did to demise and they already equated him to being as powerful as a god so he would then become a "God of Demise". Same with BotW/TotK Zelda going back in time and turning into a Dragon, which are sometimes seen as powerful as gods, only then to become Hylian again. She would become a "Hylian Goddess of Light", which is a mouthful so it gets shortened to Hylia - Goddess of Light. Link was the Chosen Hero so got equated to "Hylia's Hero". They also could have found a way to completely repair/charge the Master Sword so that Fi comes back. There's also the fact that in Skyward Sword they also have devices to turn back time so they could learn things that had happened in ancient times as well and they have references to an imprisoning war as well. That imprisoning war could be the fight between Rauru and Ganondorf (botw/totk) who then is defeated by Link and Zelda 10k-20k years later. But due to the reincarnation cycle he's due to return and the "seal" for Demise could be for Ganon's power itself. By keeping his power sealed, Ganon is prevented from fully returning. When you fight Demise in Skyward Sword it could be the raw power that Ganon's future incarnations ends up inheriting somehow. This would keep the BotW/TotK at the complete end of the timeline while also being a "restart" of the cycle at the beginning of the timeline due to Zonai shenanigans. This would also imply a 4th timeline or hidden race in one of the 3 existing timelines. It would also keep all mentions of the imprisoning war as history/legend. So, to recap, SS through to OoT, timeline splits and starts to fracture as time progresses, Zonai in an attempt to stop the universe ending somehow resets the timelines to the absolute beginning and forcefully merges them, this somehow wreaks havoc and prevents Zelda's and Link's new incarnations and possibly Ganon's, a Hylian/Zonai Hero emerges to stop an evil which wiped out most of the Zonai, Rauru becomes the "First" King of Hyrule and with the help of the 6 sages seals Ganondorf until Link can stop him 10k-20k years later, Hylians improve upon Zonai tech and make them more efficient and useful (possible repairing/charging the Master Sword to bring Fi back (maybe that's the function of the pedestal in the original Temple of Time in SS)), then some devastation happens forcing Hylians to the sky. Cycle repeats.
@ryanscanlon2151
Жыл бұрын
Something I've noticed people getting wrong is the 10,000 year thing, it's very likely there is at least 20,000-40,000 years between the flashbacks and the current day. The calamity was not the first emergence of calamity ganon, we know there was at least one cycle where the sheika saw him coming and build the devine beasts and guardians and had a successful battle against him, aka the calamity of 10,000 years ago. However the Sheika needed a reason to even expect ganon to return to start with meaning there must have been at least one calamity 10,000 years before that likely 2 of them so they could see there was a pattern forming. Perhaps the previous calamity Ganon respawn cycles were shorted because the divine beasts did a real number on it and it took 10,000 years to reform but the timespan is definitely immense.
@Asdeer101
Жыл бұрын
I do agree with your simile between Zelda 1 & 2 vs BotW & TotK, but You're digging *hard* . You're putting your love for BotW & TotK above all logic of the past games.
@Kingbunny101
11 ай бұрын
"no ones gonna buy a 9/11 themed ipad" B-WHERE 2023
@RicoSAAN
Жыл бұрын
God I love the Zelda series so much. My hype for the lore skyrockets with videos like these. Your ideas are amazing and I hope we see something like this for the next major installment! I want to see a god like Hero who posses the triforce in order to defeat the evil! ♥
@mimoe7587
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Honestly i would add in something like "and what Zelda game is coming next" in the title to get hook people in to your theory. The specifics may be different but the general themes of the game match perfectly. The only thing I'm unsure about is the Master Sword part because that was already kind of done in Skyward Sword and that game has the same producer as Breath of the Wild and Tears of The Kingdom, so despite not being made on the same new engine, i think to Nintendo its included in this new era. Also, just as you mentioned we don't like to mention the pandemic, the pandemic is a missing factor in how long it took to make TOTK. Unless something else like that happens in the world, the next game might not need to take as much time to make because i'm pretty sure TOTK would have came out earlier if not for the pandemic pushing everything back.
@ryanscanlon2151
Жыл бұрын
Let me lend you a warcraft explanation. Time is like a clock yes but it is also like an hour glass. It does not matter in which order the grains of sand fall in the end they all fall to the bottom. There are key events that always occured in every timeline but they don't always play out the same way
@metsatsocxii
Ай бұрын
Please update this to include Echoes of Wisdom theory!!
@monovision566
Жыл бұрын
They're being "sneaky" about it because they've never actually cared about continuity and just want to make a good game in the spirit of the franchise. That's always their guiding star. Never any of this meta silliness.
@Adezioh
Жыл бұрын
I love this, cuz while playing the games I asked myself too many times why we don't talk about what happened 10000 years ago with the first calamity
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