@@Tireless_Lackadaisical_Sword. I saw that too, I love these.
@xixux9087
4 ай бұрын
"she's 18" Artists: well well well, what do we have here?
@duckhawkninja3614
4 ай бұрын
When has a character being below 18 ever stopped them?
@xixux9087
4 ай бұрын
@@duckhawkninja3614 yeah that's a good point
@Noperare
3 ай бұрын
@@xixux9087when you realize that most of Pokemon r34 are children having s3x with animals
@MusicialBaldimore99
3 ай бұрын
@@duckhawkninja3614 Look at minus8
@jellymemo6384
3 ай бұрын
Fellas we got the permission
@opinionofmine3238
4 ай бұрын
Getting marginally taller doesn't imply she finished growing.
@austenmoore7326
4 ай бұрын
She still acts like a little kid sometimes so I wouldn’t be surprised if she was still a kid
@JewJitSuSixty9
4 ай бұрын
@austenmoore7326 so does serie, and she is clearly much older than frieren.
@jumpjump-oz2pr
4 ай бұрын
@@austenmoore7326fern is officially her mother now
@tsukuyomiacolyte4895
4 ай бұрын
Cope for 🍈 growth
@slademmxii8759
4 ай бұрын
Women dont fully develop until roughly 24 so shes still got 6 years to go before shes technically done. Thus your comment is a pointless addition.
@guiserixsacha4520
4 ай бұрын
Fern : I need an adult Frieren : i'm an adult !
@justanotherhuman.3649
4 ай бұрын
Fern: No, You are not.
@user-sk3fb4sr1h
4 ай бұрын
I need an adulter adult
@chhandaghosh9651
4 ай бұрын
Frieren: but I am
@okkkkkkk8664
3 ай бұрын
@@chhandaghosh9651but your boob-
@Gillsing
3 ай бұрын
Frieren's triumphant "heh heh" shows that she is too an adult. No child would want to be caught acting so childish.
@helixsol7171
4 ай бұрын
Technically speaking the question should be how old is she in "elf years" since she's already lived for several human lifetimes. It's why we say a dog is a certain age in "dog years" when they've lived for so many "human years".
@OverStrive2008
4 ай бұрын
She's over a thousand human years yes As for elf years, I dunno
@MunchyShrimps
4 ай бұрын
@@OverStrive2008 he's pointing out how the video got those two terms mixed up in meanings
@alexistaylor969
4 ай бұрын
Let me explain, it isn't that simple. For example, Elves take about 5-10 years to go from infant to toddler, 20-30 more years to go from toddler to small child. Then depending on their soul and how many times they have reincarnated, it takes between 40 and 100 years to go from small child into puberty and mid teens. After that another 300-700 years to go from mid teens to the young adult or for humans the 18-21 years old range. The whole time their aging slows down at an exponential rate until they reach young adult age and begin to seem ageless. What is confusing people is that her master Flamme was extremely old, her age extended with magic. We aren't told how old she is but since the amount of time a human can extend their life with magic is paltry we can safely say that she was under 200 years old when she passed away. However it matches up because Frieren was a small child when her master took her in and appeared to be 14-16 when she delivered her master's will. By the time Himmel meets her in the forest and invites her to his party, she has lived in the forest for another 200-300 years. When Himmel takes her into the party, she is about 18 and has stayed 18 ever since. So in "Elf Years" she is still 18-19 years old. The other confusing thing is that Elves don't normally age into their 50s-90s like humans do. Their bodies tend to just stop aging at mid thirties to mid 40s until their god decides it is time for them to die, or in the case of those reincarnated, they remember enough of their soul memories through meditation to miss Elf Heaven and just die on the spot. They spend enough time in Elf Heaven and are reincarnated if there is a full blooded elves being born. There are no new elves because they are all reincarnated with memory loss and slowly regain memories and knowledge as they dream. This is also why cross breeding is seen as a vile taboo because non full blooded elves do not have elven souls and thus cannot get memories. They are basically considered a waste of an Elven birth which are few and far between....because who wants to change diapers for 10-30 years...
@JACpotatos
4 ай бұрын
@@alexistaylor969all that and you didn't understand the original comment😂
@TheRealKhalil18
4 ай бұрын
Elf years are the same as human years. The correct question is how is she biologically
@xyreniaofcthrayn1195
4 ай бұрын
Freiren is old enough to be that cool grandma everybody loves.
@falco05
3 ай бұрын
And simultaneously kinda a child. She can act very Adult, but also like she's a twelve year old over the course of like a minute
@superman10408
Ай бұрын
She that trap
@Icouldntcomeupwithaname1212
Ай бұрын
@@falco05thats most people lol what you think everybody is always serious
@brunopagnoncelli975
25 күн бұрын
Soo basically every adult out there who isn't chronically stoic?@@falco05
@GrassPokeKing
18 күн бұрын
@@falco05Everyone's favorite grandma, but the kids also have to keep an eye on her or else she'll blow up the water heater or something
@RainAngel111
4 ай бұрын
Technically Serie doesn't actually look very old. It's more that her demeanor tells you she's old. Kraft looks like maybe his early forties. Frieren has a very youthful personality which I think accounts for the perception of her age more than her appearance. The twin tails hairstyle is also pretty youth coded. It still seems like she's the youngest of the three elves we've seen, but that doesn't mean she's actually that young in her lifespan. I'd say she seems like her 30's. Has a good beat on how her life is going, but clearly expects to live much longer still. It's their difference in mana that really tells us Serie is much older. When Serie is suppressing her mana, she seems to have about as much as Frieren when she isn't suppressing. So at least 10 times as much.
@pandornya437
4 ай бұрын
Same here, I always thought she was in her 30’s based off of her personality and demeanor.
@VermillionPengu
4 ай бұрын
As far as we know for now, female elves might look young forever, and Serie seems to be proof of that.
@claytoncallaway6412
4 ай бұрын
I’d estimate her to be around 12-15. She literally can’t even get herself out of bed, feed and dress herself in the morning without Fern helping her. Also Kraft said she’s very young and he’s about 10,000 years old. Kraft doesn’t seem like he’s going to die of old age anytime soon but if we pretend that he’s close to the upper age limit for elves that means Frieren only lived about 1/10th of her life. Average human life expectancy is about 80 in the high end and 1/10th of that is 8
@Jurarigo
4 ай бұрын
I think the key here might be mana suppression. It could be possible that it's stunting their physical growth, so while Frieren was a child in elf years when her village was destroyed, she's around 30 now, but barely looks 15 because of the strain of the mana suppression technique, and the exact same case with Serie. The only proof to this I have is how physically taxing is to maintain mana suppression. Both elves have accostumed to it, but Frieren still feel the burden of it by needing to sleep a lot of hours, and I think Serie would probably be the same.
@ekiM2K
4 ай бұрын
@@claytoncallaway6412I can't do that at 24. This is a direct attack.
@cabl7787
4 ай бұрын
people getting anxious over whether a character is safe to lewd or not will always be funny
@jablue4329
3 ай бұрын
Well, if you just don't care about the opinions of online strangers, they're all safe* to lewd. *Not legal advice, lol
@LostSoulSilver
3 ай бұрын
It's a fucking drawing, ffs
@sleepingrrandom2876
3 ай бұрын
If idiots could comprehend, you wouldn't even need to type that.@@LostSoulSilver
@jablue4329
2 ай бұрын
@@LostSoulSilver Unfortunately, you can literally be charged with a crime for drawing certain things in many places in the world.
@tizianolapentola4831
2 ай бұрын
@@jablue4329 true, but that doesn't make it less stupid. On a note, i'd say it's the exact opposite
@ryng2k1
4 ай бұрын
Of course she’s 18
@ALSPEHEIR
4 ай бұрын
Yes Officer. That guy right there.
@frankmuscular
4 ай бұрын
Lets go with that
@Aleks96
4 ай бұрын
@@ALSPEHEIR The officer doesn't care because she is already 18.😂
@Zack_Zander
4 ай бұрын
The officer would have to be an elf, but also Frieren would be the one arrested
@uukiam
4 ай бұрын
at least it's not under 😭
@temshopy1446
3 ай бұрын
I see someone describe friren as a pre historic toddler and it's the most accurate thing ever😂
@johnnymullen5884
4 ай бұрын
The only thing that should be considered here is the way she carries herself. She acts like someone who is in their 30’s or older. Her appearance seems similar to someone who is a short adult. Either way, the way Elves perceive maturity is probably different from how humans see it, so trying to find equivalencies to human ages is kinda dumb.
@cyclops101
4 ай бұрын
Mfs trying to find a way to not make liking children weird by factoring in their personality 💀💀
@somenonsense7997
4 ай бұрын
@@cyclops101 if you remove the ears, she looks like she could by 18.
@cyclops101
4 ай бұрын
@@somenonsense7997 yea your cooked lil bro 😭😭🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@kagato23
4 ай бұрын
@@cyclops101 she’s really not a loli though. She’s a mess. A early 20s something that doesn’t have her shit together. Immature but not one of those “says they are old but looks and acts like a child” types some anime’s like. There’s a distinction.
@orelliaorellia142
4 ай бұрын
Yep. She behave like a seasoned adult. Nobody think she is a child in lore either even though most humans never encountered elves before. So despite the générique manga look she is an adult in her world.
@vvey4523
3 ай бұрын
Bro really had to write a whole essay to try and sneak in a "she's 18"
@enerkachu
4 ай бұрын
She looks like she can be a petite girl in her 20s lol Edit: Some of you should know that some people don't lose their baby face until late 20s or early 30s. Frieren's flashback has shown her shorter than she is now. She was probably 8-12 at that point. She is now taller. I am just putting two and two together. She is a petite women in her 20s lol. I highly doubt she'll get any taller than she is now.
@aetriandimitri190
4 ай бұрын
People that don't know petite women exist will still say she's a child
@Teuwufel
4 ай бұрын
@@aetriandimitri190 they're dumb as a stick and their opinion is invalid
@e.9874
4 ай бұрын
@@aetriandimitri190I'm a petite woman who gets mistaken for a 16 year old, but I still think she looks a bit too babyfaced to be in her 20s. It's not about just height. Frieren's art style is really good at those minor details if you look at 14 year old Fern vs 18 year old Fern- she looks the same but her face has matured!
@fool4343
4 ай бұрын
@@e.9874 im a petite woman who gets mistaken for a teen and im pretty sure you can be baby faced in 20s plus the anime artstyle by itself often simplifies faces enough so a 30 yo and 15 yo look almost identical. she could be just round faced
@e.9874
4 ай бұрын
@@fool4343 no yeah I agree, I'm babyfaced too lol but I'm talking from a meta character design perspective. Usually the face shapes are designed w a certain intent, I think she's meant to look like a short late teen, around Fern and Stark's current age. I think she'll still be petite when she's older too though usually you don't get much taller after 16ish, or the elf equivalent lol You have to understand that anime is not real life, and these characters aren't real people who happen to have certain physical characteristics- they were intentionally designed that way! By looking at a (good) design you can gauge a lot about a character, that's why character designers exist. So I'm not saying a 20-some woman can't look young, I just said I do, but design is done with purpose. Her face looks young because the design is telling us she is relatively young! That's why Serie looks older despite being around the same height. It's good design.
@daemonskycloak6818
4 ай бұрын
I’d wager 1000 years isn’t a drop in the bucket for them. They probably mature to adulthood fairly quickly then their body just comes to a standstill.
@TheTrueHolyDarkness
4 ай бұрын
The rule of thumb I've been told about elves is that they basically have the lifespan of a tree.
@ishantagarwal1082
3 ай бұрын
@@TheTrueHolyDarkness Isn't the oldest living tree irl only 5000 or so years old?
@AbsoluteHuman
3 ай бұрын
@@TheTrueHolyDarkness Ordinary trees live about as long as modern humans I'd say...
@TheTrueHolyDarkness
3 ай бұрын
@@AbsoluteHuman Please think of a long living tree instead of an ordinary one. Thank you.
@TheTrueHolyDarkness
3 ай бұрын
@@ishantagarwal1082 Right. So elves can still get old. Elves aren't meant to be truly immortal.
@kitsunesden8085
4 ай бұрын
All I heard was "She's legal, even after converting elf to human years" 😂
@Jinz3
4 ай бұрын
Gross
@gr33dl0cknein3
4 ай бұрын
@@Jinz3 Giggity!
@Aleks96
4 ай бұрын
@@Jinz3 Why?😂
@somenonsense7997
4 ай бұрын
Good news for Himmel!
@souldry
4 ай бұрын
@@Aleks96because it’s icky, perhaps even yucky.
@darksavage2609
4 ай бұрын
“Is she legal” “Beyond legal.” THATS ALL I NEEDED TO HEAR.
@CristiNeagu
4 ай бұрын
Serie doesn't look that much older, to be honest. She actually looks younger. As for Frieren, I'd say she's about 22. Still learning how to behave in society.
@beo3828
4 ай бұрын
Serie is way curvier than Frieren, which certainly makes her look older.
@CristiNeagu
4 ай бұрын
@@beo3828 Barely. And maybe Frieren is just... flatter.
@beo3828
4 ай бұрын
@@CristiNeagu her chest is far more obvious in the manga btw, and I'm sure Frieren still has a lot of growth to do
@alexistaylor969
4 ай бұрын
nope at young adult, so 17-21, eleven ages slow down exponentially. Frieren is at most 18 soon to be 19....in another 800 years.
@CristiNeagu
4 ай бұрын
@@alexistaylor969 Could be 18-19. But she feels a bit more mature than that.
@gerardovelazquez724
4 ай бұрын
its weird to see old elfs, tolkien imagined the elfs like frieren for the first time, its stated that elves grow to arround full human growth before any kind of deterioration beggins, and stay there forever, so basically they live forever at peek potencial, the state were they would be able to be the fastest, the stronger and the most inteligent in a human life for example. that would be around 25 years old, i dont know if they in this show are using this type of elves thou
@semaj_5022
4 ай бұрын
The elves in Frieren's world seem like they draw more from the elves of Middle Earth than anything else. So it's probably pretty similar.
@colasevenseas5652
4 ай бұрын
Yeah i first thought how similiar frieren is to tolkien elves😅 And serie is like galadriel and kraft might be a high elf if he is in the tolkien world@@semaj_5022
@somenonsense7997
4 ай бұрын
I'm gonna go with the theory where elves just stop aging after a certain point.
@memethief4113
4 ай бұрын
Yeah elves are basically immortal, I believe they’re supposed to age to adulthood similar to a human and then essentially stop aging
@Beckwourth
4 ай бұрын
They don't stop aging they just have an extremely long life span Serie talked about it with Frieren that it may as well be seen as immortal but what i find interesting is even tho that may be the case they still get killed off somehow which sucks because an elf is a walking library of knowledge depending on if they care to remember tho. One can meet an elf that has a short term memory loss or long term either way To exist for so long makes me wonder how they're just not bored out of their mind if time is near infinite i can see why frieren doesn't feel the rush to speed run and probably takes every route possible to make sure she sees it all since she can anyways in her eyes nothing is a waste of time because it may as well not be a concept to her.
@memethief4113
4 ай бұрын
@@Beckwourth “immortal” and “invulnerable” are two different things, someone can be immortal but still be killed by unnatural forces, someone that is invulnerable can’t be hurt in any way. Theoretically an invulnerable person could die of natural causes unless they are both immortal and invulnerable
@isaiahbrown9222
4 ай бұрын
@@memethief4113 Yes! Lobsters are immortal if they are given enough energy, as well as some species of Jellyfish! But they still die
@gerardovelazquez724
4 ай бұрын
yes, this type of elves were imagined by tolkien first and he stated that elves of this type grow to peek develpment and stay there forever, around 23 to 26 years old in human years. but then again this elves could be non immortal and just live a lot more
@foogod4237
4 ай бұрын
There are a *lot* of unsubstantiated assumptions here: 1. We have only seen a couple of other elves and have no idea whether they're actually representative. It is possible, for example, that male elves always just look older than female ones (by human standards). 2. I'm sorry, but *Serie looks much younger than Frieren does* anyway (in human terms, just based on appearance, I'd say Frieren looks a lot like a late teen or early 20-something would, while Serie basically looks like a human 12-year-old), so that whole statement is just _obviously_ wrong to begin with. 3. "Assuming elves age linearly like humans" seems like a pretty dumb assumption, frankly. That would mean that elven babies *would need to be breast-fed for around the first 30 years* of their lives. They wouldn't even be able to stand up on their own for at least 50 years, and wouldn't be able to really _communicate or learn basic words for things_ until they''d already been alive for 100 years or more. 4. Who says that elves have a "growth spurt" the same way humans do at all? If they do, why assume that it happens at the same point in their lives? Or that it happens to all of them in the same way or at the same point, or even for the same reasons? (i.e. what if the "growth spurt" for an elf is linked to mana development, not age, for example?) 5. What are we actually measuring? Biological maturity (i.e. can she get pregnant)? Emotional/intellectual development (is her personality mature or still developing)? Percentage of her life lived (how close to death is she)? Appearance (does she _look_ like an adult)? Telomere length? What? There is absolutely no reason to believe that any of these things in elves come at the same relative "ages" (or even in the same order) that they do in humans (and we don't even know whether she even _has_ a "natural lifespan" as such at all). There is just no way to actually compare most of these things with humans to begin with. Frieren is arguably not equivalent in any way to an 18-year old in human terms. 18-year-olds have not lived for over a thousand years and seen everybody they've known die many times over. 18-year-old humans aren't expecting to continue to live for many more thousands of years. 18-year-old humans have hormonal drives and societal influences that it's already been well established elves do not have. The part of her life that Frieren is in is a part of life that no human can ever experience, because it is not part of the human sphere of understanding. And being an "18-year-old human" is something that Frieren will never experience either. They are just two completely different parts of two completely different life paths that do not really intersect or overlap in any way, so comparing them just makes no sense.
@Geetiyo
4 ай бұрын
I agree with everything that you said, there’s a lot of undecided factors, which is why I made a bunch of assumptions. It’s a fun theory video where I try my best to break it down. You bring up good points though, there’s a lot to go off of
@vladitsvar
3 ай бұрын
Thank you, I feel I needed some sense after all the nonsense the comments say about stuff like this.
@datboicasino
3 ай бұрын
Based comment
@ichigokurosaki3703
2 ай бұрын
It's an anime. Until anything is said, people are free to interpret it however they want. It only makes sense to compare frieren with the only other elves in the show and how humans work to understand them. That's the most anyone can do considering this is fiction.
@yourreditstories
27 күн бұрын
Sorry bro am to lazy to read that😅
@Cxpuccino
Ай бұрын
I'd say she's physically around 15-16 but her mentality is an elf one
@curioussavagery802
4 ай бұрын
Frieren is heavily implied to have been an adult when flamme found her, she was the strongest in her village at the time.
@foogod4237
4 ай бұрын
Mana capacity and age are not the same thing... Also, just because she's the only one who survived doesn't mean she was necessarily the strongest.
@curioussavagery802
4 ай бұрын
@@foogod4237 its literally mentioned that she was the strongest in her village, but failed to protect them.
@LunaBlanche7328
4 ай бұрын
@@foogod4237 around 06:20 mins of ep10 of the anime, frieren herself says "I was the strongest, but I still couldnt protect them". Also, for a diligent mage who doesnt neglect their trainings (the demons and frieren herself show this attribute), mana capacity is indeed directly proportional to age (as confirmed by Aura). Of course their growth rates are different but mana capacity could be used to get a rough estimate of their ages.
@foogod4237
4 ай бұрын
@@LunaBlanche7328 Fair enough, I had forgotten about that line. However, just because she was the strongest doesn't mean she was an adult. First of all, it's unclear how many other mages there even were in the village (mages are not that common in the rest of the world, there's no reason to assume they would be in an elven village either). She might have been one of only a couple of people who could even use magic, or maybe even the only one. And it has been established that diligent *study* (not age) can increase one's mana (which is also not necessarily always the same thing as strength), however that does not mean it is the only factor. There are certainly levels that you can only achieve after having studied for a very long time, but at lower (ordinary villager) levels it is quite possible (even likely) that there is some amount of natural variation from one person to another, and might well even be "prodigies" who simply start out with a lot more than everybody else to begin with, or can pick it up faster than others. So it is quite possible that she was simply (a) one of the only magic users in the entire village or (b) a quicker study than other people or (c) just naturally gifted or (d) some or all of the above combined, which could easily make her the strongest _in that particular village,_ even without being an adult.
@mrcoolguy819
Ай бұрын
I think she's just a prodigy, not that she's of a certain age just because she's strong.
@Bones12x2
4 ай бұрын
I would looove a full series of Flamme and younger Freiren.
@Fl3cheF
4 ай бұрын
Thats what the flashbacks are for, we don’t really need it you can easily understand what they did and how they lived through said flashback and frieren current way of life
@chasethemaster3440
4 ай бұрын
Would be neat and a series of the adventures with hamdel and the others but I doubt there’s gonna be a series of either and that’s ok this series does flashbacks really well so it doesn’t feel like we’re missing out too much
@Fl3cheF
4 ай бұрын
@@chasethemaster3440 this idea would be better but yeah that’s what the flashbacks are for , the series as is, is already really well written
@tntxgoodin
4 ай бұрын
I like to think she's around 20/21 in human years. Just kinda feels like it's around about right
@MrRaposaum
4 ай бұрын
This all assumes that elves in this scenario age at some point. I think that may be the case but we don't have any confirmations of this yet. This series gives out some LOTR vibes, where elves mature into peak adulthood (25-30 y/o in human years) and then never age from there. If not killed, they go on living forever. Kraft may appear old because of the facial feature bellow his eyes but I think it is possible that the mangaka just gave him those to make him appear rough, not aging. Frieren has the same height and appearance from when Flamme met her, all she changed from then were clothes. But I think it makes sense to assume she was still relatively young by then because of her demeanor.
@Hyper_Blue358
3 ай бұрын
Could i ask what series is this?
@Icouldntcomeupwithaname1212
Ай бұрын
Lotr?
@ShadowmancerLord
4 ай бұрын
That's not usually how elves work though. Normally in most media, they age pretty much like humans up to adulthood, and then they kind of stay there and age super slow for the rest of their life
@rashidshadow9325
4 ай бұрын
We don’t know how elves work in Frieren’s world, honestly I want more lore on the elves in this world but we might not be getting it for a long time
@Natsuke1104
4 ай бұрын
Don't you mean Elf years? Cuz the thousand years ARE human years.
@jffry890
4 ай бұрын
Considering it's Japan, she's probably 14 in human years.
@GaionSputro
23 күн бұрын
Probably in her 15 or 16.
@futavadumnezo
11 күн бұрын
That's a safe bet. 90% of all anime is directed at young teens
@thatoneguyffs
4 ай бұрын
Who is going to tell him that a year for a elf is the same amount of time for a human so 3000 years is still 3000 years.
@chrispbacon002
4 ай бұрын
People, tourists and twitter clowns will always find something to make it wrong. Projection at its finest
@matthewcooper6492
4 ай бұрын
Wait so how old is she in elf years like why has the manga artist not reveal something so trivial is it to keep people guessing
@derpfluidvariant0916
4 ай бұрын
@@matthewcooper6492Combination ot "Never ask a Woman her age" jokes, as well as to keep the shifts between "goofy idiot child" and "Wise eccentric badass grandma" from losing potency.
@benboothroyd1523
4 ай бұрын
Apparently you didn't catch that he was talking about her physical maturity mainly. That's why he referenced her height, mana, and other indications of her physical age according to human perspective. ie she looks like a late teen in human perspective, but obviously narratively she's been around for thousands of years. Are you really that dull so as to not understand that?
@thatoneguyffs
4 ай бұрын
@@benboothroyd1523 ok if that's the case then she isnt even in her teens yet because she doesn't even desire to mate yet she said so her self and the teens at my school were having babies left and right. And y'all weirdos want to sexualize a child.
@CREDLACE
4 ай бұрын
Late teens - Early 20's seems a good estimate though. Frieren does act like a somewhat jaded old teenager sometimes, granted she was probably never super cheery to begin with but still...
@Kolo___
24 күн бұрын
A really cool touch they did; The atchatecture and style of clothing during the time the anime happens is inspired by the high middle - late middle ages(like all isekai). But in the flashbacks when she was a kid, the atchatecture and style is clearly insipred by the classical era aka antiquity(Rome, carthage, Ptolemaic egypt). In simple speak, they very very, very subtally implied frieren is as old as Rome. (also witnessed the fall of rome first hand)
@yobelpetra8652
2 ай бұрын
And the fact she still have the flaw of newbie mage shows that she is maybe just a teen
@stonewinter5
3 ай бұрын
"she's legal" - a wise man
@AllenZen
2 ай бұрын
She's not 18. Just look at the episode where she looks at Fern's chest, and then looks at her and is kept thinking "that it can't be the food" and that Fern looks older than her. To add up, Sein describes her out loud as a "child". She has the body of a 13 year old.
@heavyarms55
4 ай бұрын
When it comes to long lived characters like this, we have no good analogs irl.
@noirysp3293
4 ай бұрын
Serie looks young for an elf that lived through most of humanity. Matter of fact it seems like shes similar age to frieren. From that we might be able to conclude female elves age logarithmically. They grow into adult/teenage and stay that way for most of their lives. Male elves might age differently but we only have one specimen so its hard to tell
@orelliaorellia142
4 ай бұрын
Kraft could honnestly look anywhere between 20 and 45. I tend to think we see him as looking older only because he has a more obvious adult build compared to Frieren and Serie due to the art style.
@quigonkenny
4 ай бұрын
Elf males mature linearly, but elf females are teenagers effectively forever? So what you're saying is that the god who created elves is a man of culture...?
@TheFase32
4 ай бұрын
I think they just simply stop aging at a certain point. I don't think we've seen an old elf yet, so they might as well be immortal (which i think is suggested somewhere in the anime)
@rashidshadow9325
4 ай бұрын
@@quigonkennyahem….goddess
@vendetta3941
4 ай бұрын
In humsm years, she's around maybe 1,700-2,000. In elven years, if you think about it, she's still a child. They live 100,000 and more. Putting it in modern long human life spans, 1,000 years is maybe 1- 1.5 years.
@julianbroughton
4 ай бұрын
If this is true, it would never make sense for an elf to lose to a demon. Was her entire village children? It doesn't add up.
@sinny5404
4 ай бұрын
100k is definitely an over estimate. Imma say 100 years = 1 year to an elf. Making her 1,800 years old if she's 18. And 10k = 100 There's no way the writers didn't make it simple math easily able to be worked with. So I think it is a solid answer. So the 50 year meteor shower was more like an every 6months kind of deal. So to her, every "elf year" would be the end of a whole human generation.
@acetrainerarcane1755
4 ай бұрын
We have no confirmation of the lifespan of elves
@baishihua
4 ай бұрын
@@sinny5404I don't think there is a confirmed limit to their lifespan.
@vendetta3941
4 ай бұрын
@@baishihua after 1,000 years, she said she has only lived 1/100 of her live span.
@emergency_broadcast_system
4 ай бұрын
The absolute mental gymnastics this video is going through is actually insane
@backnforth8401
4 ай бұрын
Imagine she becomes 30 in human years and humans evolved to the point of building planets.
@hang_kentang6709
4 ай бұрын
Im surprised humans in that world have not discovered steam engines or gunpowder yet.
@kakukaku1233
4 ай бұрын
@@hang_kentang6709 maybe because they rely on magic too much
@backnforth8401
4 ай бұрын
@@hang_kentang6709 probably because they're still in the Medieval Ages
@stephenvoss6092
4 ай бұрын
@@backnforth8401 Also the industrial revolution in a magic based society might play out completely differently. All those goofy useless spells that frieren collects include creating shaved ice(a refined version might become the basis for magical ice boxes). Serie is a artisan of magic the true horror for her is seeing magic become mass produced and greatly inferior but universally used.
@hang_kentang6709
4 ай бұрын
@@backnforth8401 It's been like 2000 years at least. Its probably due to their overreliance on magic. Who needs refrigerators when you can produce ice with magic type of deal.
@generalbutterscotch4887
4 ай бұрын
Having the lifespan of an elf sounds nice... but only if your friends and family have it too 😢
@catmage
4 ай бұрын
"Well, she turned 11 or 12 in the last 1000 years, so now she's probably about 18!" Dawg...
@Truck_Kun_Driver
4 ай бұрын
"Sir, she's actually a 2000 years old Elf" "We know, we're arresting her, for molesting the mimics" Frieren:
@nithia
4 ай бұрын
So if the creators are pulling from D&D elves at all then an Elf ages at about the same rate as a human but their appearance of age stops somewhere around their twenties to their forties. So physically are an adult at the same time a Human would be. However in Elf society are not considered an adult until they reach at least one hundred years old based on knowledge, training, and maturity. They then live to be several hundred to several thousand years old depending on the exact setting lore. Though if you ever see an elf with some age showing they (wrinkles, crows feet, and so on) those Elves would be considered to be very very old. Which is why you cant really do Elf years to Human years conversion. Though I dont know how the creator(s) of this world decided to go for Elves, but if it was pure linear ageing can you just imagine having to take care of your infant Elf child for like one hundred years or so?
@semaj_5022
4 ай бұрын
Elves in Frieren seem much more like they are pulling from LotR rules of Elf Aging, just without an equivalence to Valinor/The Halls of Mandos. Maturing over the course of what would be a human lifespan, then ceasing aging visibly once they reach maturity.
@Unworshipediety
4 ай бұрын
LOL, it's anime, she ain't ever gonna look like an adult.
@GafftheHorse
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, in anime women only ever look as immature as they act - single moms or aunts always look in their latter teens or early twenties whether the main chara ins in elementary, middle or high school.
@harxey
4 ай бұрын
Oh, good. I can click on this rule34 video.
@jessedierksheide
4 ай бұрын
Same thought
@izsunk
4 ай бұрын
We are of the same breed
@omejira
4 ай бұрын
@@izsunki like your choice of words
@cyclops101
4 ай бұрын
@@jessedierksheideyour cooked lil bro 💀
@halcyon.x
4 ай бұрын
and anime fans wonder why people don’t like them..
@boomer150
4 ай бұрын
I gave this some thought during one of the boring episodes. The male elf seems adult while the female elf's that we see seem to be significantly younger. Here is my theory. The elf's of this world are highly magical creatures, kinda like Demons. Magic is at the core of their existence. I suspect that they age until their mana reaches a certain level. After that they stop aging. The elf version of reaching adulthood. The regular elf's age similarly to humans and achieve a normal physical state when their mana peaks. Exceptional elf's like Frieren and Serie reached their mana critical state at a relatively young age, being naturally gifted mages. So they stopped aging early into their development. It's also possible that elf aging is not stopped just very, very slow. Like one year to an elf is a hundred to a human.
@orelliaorellia142
4 ай бұрын
Conversions like 100 years = 1 year between human years and elf years can't be done. Or else Serie would look like a 70 years old woman (she is at least 5000 years old based on the clues we have) I think the theory of them stopping physically aging for thousands of years if not forever is the most probable.
@UnusedChar
2 ай бұрын
All that rationalization and in the end the conclusion he was going for is that she's legal
@gnomeheart1
22 күн бұрын
I thought she was closer to 2000 when her master found her, he mana spilled out and she was her villages protector, she refused to call her master because she said she was a lot older. It was her master’s display of mana that convinced Frerin to become her apprentice, meaning she was around 3080 years old.
@keleitas150
4 ай бұрын
If we are going by d&d standards, while elves do come of age at 120 years they reach adulthood from a physical standpoint like humans do. The other 100+ years are used to learn elven culture, art, knowledge, magic etc... I'm not saying this has to be how Frieren grew, it could very well be linear aging in Kanehito Yamada's mind. Just a little fun fact on how elf aging works in another fantasy setting ✌️
@Жнец-у6д
4 ай бұрын
No, their body becomes adult in 20 but their mind in 100+
@clauteletuby
4 ай бұрын
frieren world is more of a jrpg tho
@keleitas150
4 ай бұрын
@@clauteletuby true, in fact I clarified that it might very well be different from the author's perspective since there is no confirmed lore about how elves grow in her work. But also I feel that Frieren is one of the most accurate representation of an elf.
@keleitas150
4 ай бұрын
@@Жнец-у6д while sources on the matter are few and far between even the 5e handbook says "Although elves reach physical maturity at about the same age as humans, the elven understanding of adulthood goes beyond physical growth to encompass worldly experience. An elf typically claims adulthood and an adult name around the age of 100 and can live to be 750 years old." So, no. Elves in their 50ies aren't behaving like 10 years old children. They may act reckless in contrast with their adult counterparts, but technically they are more than mature by human standards. Not by Elven standards of course, but that's more of a cultural perspective imo. Also, this may vary from setting to setting.
@Жнец-у6д
4 ай бұрын
@@keleitas150 well, like I said, their mind becomes adult in 100, so elves between 20 and 100 are basically teenagers. Already not kids, but still not have enough life experience, to be considered adults.
@LawfulChaotic1
2 ай бұрын
That’s one powerful 18 year old… seriously that battle vs the clone was actually nuts
@illuxion
4 ай бұрын
After hearing her English dub, I'm convinced she's at least 40 human years
@seashantier1593
2 ай бұрын
Wow, people took this fun, lighthearted question and answer waaaaaaay too seriously....
@feykro222
4 ай бұрын
Based on her mana when she met Flamme, most people think Frieren was 100-200 years old. Flamme had more mana than Frieren at that time because of Flamme was training all the time.
@MrReaperHand
3 ай бұрын
She didn't physically age much, but she still mentally grew. The number of years she is old is EXACTLY that. As others pointed out with dogs, dogs are considered older compared to us and thus we say a dog is X old in DOG years not human years as dogs only live into the teens if in human years. To her all the humans around her are children, because according to how long elves live they are. She has, and will always experience more than a human possibly could. We don't have a concrete idea how old elves can be, but clearly since she doesn't look elderly they can lives thousands upon thousands of years. She is still over 100 years in human years. Based on things my guess is she is close to 20 in elf years, but in the end years are years. Since she, herself, says how many years she has lived this world has just that. How long one lives is just longer between species. Just because they live longer doesn't mean they MATURE slower. They just physically age slower is all. Going back to dogs, we say the human and dog years stuff to give an idea of how old a dog is based on how long humans live. However, domestication of them basically made them permanently in a youthful, or childlike state. This is what domestication is, where we breed out the violent adult instincts to maintain the docile mannerisms. Dogs are essentially at best teens (reletively to what they were before domestication) until they die. They never truly go full adult. This is true for all domesticated animals. So, no I would argue there is no such thing as elf years, human years, dwarf years, or any of that. Just how old they are based on years lived. More years to live, more time to gather information and experience. Now in their own respective species (yes species not race since they are NOT human) they would see each other young, but in the end maturity still happens as time still is moving at the same rate. If humans lived forever, we would become similar to her apathetic to most things and lose on some emotions.
@puffii_
2 ай бұрын
The math for these "1000" year olds always ends up being 18, how convenient...
@stuka_blyat1574
Ай бұрын
it is stated that elves have a longer youth than dwarves do. While dwarves spend the majority of their lives in the elderly part of their lives, elves get to enjoy youth for longer. This implies that even if an elf were to be 30 in human years, they would probably look quite young. Elves near death would probably start looking elderly, but will probably die before long.
@fatherscallop7044
2 ай бұрын
They're always 18 whenever FBI is getting involved
@dreamfall77
2 ай бұрын
She is definitely older than Serie, because she is 100% sure that Serie is never wrong. Confidence in such a matter can only be given to her by even greater power.
@user-yu3eq8fl3z
3 ай бұрын
The mental gymnastics to say she’s legal though 😭😭😭
@lunar.g7410
4 ай бұрын
I always think that her personality is more like a 14-15 child more than an adult... Basically fern is her mom man
@fortcolors9887
2 ай бұрын
not the "now 18 years old" skull
@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
12 күн бұрын
Senko san and fieren: _old but cute and short momma figures_ ... 🤝
@2vectors708
4 ай бұрын
Suuuure... everyone just trying to make it seem like she's an adult, kraft looked the same as his statue and he was massively older than frieren and even saved the world before she and her party did, so long ago that not even frieren remembered him
@relaxx6448
4 ай бұрын
She's legal dude, dont make questions or overthink about that...
@baka3262
4 ай бұрын
People do age slower once they've reached past their prime. Human children are massively different from 6 to 12 than it is for someone that is 40 to 46. Maybe kraft is just that old lol
@jamesmcdonnell2455
4 ай бұрын
The idea that elves somehow don't reach the toddler stage for thousands of years, is beyond ridiculous. You're trying to add "realism" while simultaneously ignoring it.
@2vectors708
4 ай бұрын
@@jamesmcdonnell2455 who said toddler? I'm just saying she's closer to preteen to teen
@2vectors708
4 ай бұрын
@baka3262 this is true, there is an accelerated aging time period around adolescence where the body grows extremely quickly and slows down around adulthood, like wise as people get older after that point their bodies start to degrade, kraft has yet to degrade but still looks the same so likely is still within his prime despite saving the world some 2k or so years ago, frieren has slightly grown taller in her 1000 years that we've known her, likely showing that she is within this accelerated growth period.
@mrcoolguy819
Ай бұрын
I was just thinking about this. Freiren is prob closer to 15-16 in elf years. She shares some traits with people that age and it would match up with the ages of a lot of other anime MCs.
@InmortaliitY
Ай бұрын
My take: When Frieren was with Flamme: Frieren: 10-12 years Serie: 25-27 years When Frieren are with Party of heroes and later Fern's party: Frieren: 20-22years Serie: 35-37 years
@maksiksq
Ай бұрын
We all know the right answer, 17. In every anime it's always 17.
@AAAA-rx2tf
4 ай бұрын
All of that complex calculation, just so you can say she is legal...
@Neko__CatYay
3 ай бұрын
I just laugh everytime I look at Luffy, because he's just like: "🌒▼🌘"
@noir3662
4 ай бұрын
And so in conclusion officer, it's legal
@smoshpottery2270
2 ай бұрын
elves stop aging at 18, so every single elves in this anime is 18
@DevDog98
3 ай бұрын
"how old is frieren in humans years?" *enough*
@No-ones-friend
7 күн бұрын
My canon is every hundred years would be the human equivalent of 1 year
@Pyovali
4 ай бұрын
And she sounds 40 in her English dub and everyone's gushing over "Mama frieren" lol.
@LunamrathP
4 ай бұрын
Frieren is granny coded.
@TerraHv1
4 ай бұрын
Russ is a treasure and I'm glad you brought him to your channel.
@ObjectorOfThings
3 ай бұрын
The one R34 artist with morals taking notes
@melonlord1414
2 ай бұрын
She's clearly a teenager.
@enarum8785
4 ай бұрын
It should be "How old is Frieren in Elven Years" since she is 18 according to the elves
@klutzmtg2310
2 ай бұрын
She’s definitely in her 30’s-40’s. The others are in their late 40’s early 50’s.
@artemis3343
4 ай бұрын
She is over 1000 years old in human years how hard is that to understand?
@rashidshadow9325
4 ай бұрын
I think there was a wording mistake, the question was meant to be in elven years
@zjxai
Ай бұрын
“She is 18” That wasn’t a solemn statement, that was a green light
@br3hbmc79
4 ай бұрын
Bruh yall got some devious mental gymnastics 😂
@user-ni3bj2bi4z
4 ай бұрын
Elves are immortal, humans are mortal... thus elves do not have any age that has any equivalency to any human age. When estimating the age of a dog in human years you are comparing the timeline of when an average dog undergoes all of the following as a unit: adolescence, adulthood, decline in old age, and death - to the timeline of when a human undergoes those same processes. Elves have an adolecence, and adulthood timeline which can be compared to human years... but they don't have physical decline in old age, and death from old age... If broken down in a formula it would be like trying to multiply and divide half of your variables by 0, which equals !Error. Where (when speaking in averages): 1) Adolescene = The number of years that contribute to reaching adolescence. 2) Adulthood = The number of years that contribute to reaching adulthood. 3) Physical Decline in Old Age = The number of years that contribute to reaching physical decline in old age. 4) Death = The number of years that contribute to reaching death from old age. Human: 1) 10-13 2) 18-20 3) 40 - 60 4) 60 - 130 Elf: 1) Some Number 2) Some Number 3) 0 / !Error (No amount of years contributes to physical decline) 4) 0 / !Error (No amount of years will lead to death from old age.
@heresy8383
4 ай бұрын
Sure mate, you don't sound sus at all.
@admaerable
4 ай бұрын
Why are you concerned about the age of a fictional character who is not even human?
@She-Devil94
4 ай бұрын
@@admaerable I'm more concerned about all the men trying to make her "legal" to get to lust for a character that is probably around 15 when we compare her to the way a human ages.
@chrispbacon002
4 ай бұрын
@@She-Devil94imagine caring about people being attracted to an attractively drawn character who can have any age. At least they’re honest, 70 percent of people here tripping are lying and are attracted to her too. This same drawing can be 30 if the artist says so and then it would be ok? If she is under 18 but looks old its a problem if she is 1000 years old its still a problem. Funny how the people that down talk this the most keep getting caught in real life as the rapists, etc. almost like its projection l. Lmao keep cooking
@She-Devil94
4 ай бұрын
@@chrispbacon002 Imagine being worried for people who are attracted to character that has all the physical features of a minor. To those people actual minors might not be out of question. Because what's the big difference? So yes I care...
@KudoLuffy
4 ай бұрын
@@She-Devil94Ur dumb he's answering the question of her age in human numbers...it's not about making her legal
@TunaStrata
2 ай бұрын
She herself said she is more than 1000 years. As far im concern three of them (demon, elves, and human) use the same calendar to reference time. In example, 80 years after demon king defeated, 28 years after himmel dead, etc.
@LordofFaet
4 ай бұрын
This is inherently flawed. It assumes there’s human parallel in a nonhuman species. For all we know Elves die before they ever appear middle-aged by human standards. Or maybe like a Saiyan they don’t appear to age at all until they reach a threshold and go through a bunch of visual age all at once. With a sample size of two females and one male maybe males just ‘look older’ from a humans perspective and actually Elves don’t change at all from the day they’re fully grown. Point being, it’s a silly comparison to make. They aren’t human, you don’t have to treat them like humans.
@BlackRaveBow
2 ай бұрын
He just went with the safest age
@Blockschrott
4 ай бұрын
I would say she's more like 16, I mean she has teenage sleep schedule, that would show while puberty before normalise after that
@nickeni3050
4 ай бұрын
That sounds like you don't know a lot of single adults. Last time I checked, the sleep schedule of most adults who either don't have their life together or do freelance jobs is horrendous
@dragonearth5456
4 ай бұрын
She is a single adult that has a time frame where literal decades being wasted doesn’t matter in the slightest.
@semaj_5022
4 ай бұрын
I'm in my 30s and struggle to get out of bed just as much as Frieren does, so that doesn't really mean much. Though I still manage to make it to work on time every day, but I digress. Remember that to a being that can easily live for thousands of years, oversleeping by a few hours is no different than a few seconds. If an elf says you need to hurry to get somewhere, you need to be there yesterday.
@Enryu_uyrnE
4 ай бұрын
I mean if we’re being real here, she looks 13-17 at the max. I’d honestly place her at 14 maybe 15. Although you could just chalk this up to genetics, her breast don’t appear to have grown in(much), she’s very short, her face is still very round(this could obviously be because of weight rather than age, but everywhere else looks slim; so I’m more inclined to believe it’s age). I think everyone’s assuming that because it’s an anime, her height can just be ridden off, but in reality she’s very short(about 5ft from the looks of it). She’s also has that stereotypical childish selfishness sometimes(no, I’m not saying frieren is selfish in the negative sense, it’s more so that she’s more inclined to think about herself than others(her sleeping in everyday even though humans can’t just waste days away, her not wanting to take fern in when it was her friend’s basically dying wish because fern would get in the way(she could’ve just taken a few years to train her), frieren not realizing that they couldn’t spend forever searching for a flower that hasn’t been seen in decades. All of these things are innocent selfish acts, but I can’t really imagine an Adult Frieren doing these things. There are obviously adults irl that act like this, but we usually consider them immature. So besides the physical aspect just blatantly looking like a young teen, her mentality is that of a very wise/knowledgeable child, so that’s what I think she actually is.
@HaartieeTRUE
4 ай бұрын
I had a better sleeping schedule as a teen then as an adult. I don't understand where you people get your stereotypes from.
@drfabulous2804
2 ай бұрын
Regardless of age, Serie is still smol and cute.
@nixdskilly4786
4 ай бұрын
So... All you are trying to say is that she's legal in human years...
@davii_ms
4 ай бұрын
I would say Frieren has the mentality / maturity of a Human around 20-23 years old. Of course she is goofy sometimes but when things get serious she knows how to handle it.
@chasethemaster3440
4 ай бұрын
I always thought she was mentally in her twenties
@3characterhandlerequired
4 ай бұрын
Same way of aging as humans is a no go. Early childhood must be fast even for elves, you can't be a toddler for hundred years. That's just doesn't work. I'd say aging slows after puberty, and basically stops at 20, so that all adult elves look young. Mentally Frieren is mix of old and young. Has wisdom of old person, but still gets joy of finding treasure.
@DavidKAnderson
4 ай бұрын
Why assume elvish aging corresponds so directly to human? There's no reason to assume that.
@LostWallet
4 ай бұрын
elf dont really age by years, they age through experience. that is why Frieren say Serie is still a child despide how powerful she is. she didnt have enough life experience due to her being shut in, so comparing her to Frieren, Frieren has been living among the human for much longer, and Kraft was an acient hero, who has been living with human for thousands of years, which would make him the most experienced among those three.
@CRAgamer
4 ай бұрын
LMAO she's 18 cause we need her to be but personally I get the impression she'd be around 14 -16.
@jamesmcdonnell2455
4 ай бұрын
By your logic, elves should have died out instantly because they would literally be too weak and stupid for far too long. Just imagine if humans didn't reach the toddler stage till the age of 10.
@CRAgamer
4 ай бұрын
@@jamesmcdonnell2455 I'd imagine their physiology and mental maturity would be different, just cause they look 10 doesn't mean they'd have the strength or mental capacity of a ten year old.
@jamesmcdonnell2455
4 ай бұрын
@CRAgamer you misunderstood. They would literally be 10 years-old, but they would look like a 2 year-old. That's what you're putting forth. The more realistic design would be if they grew like animals. A dog only takes like a year or two to reach maturity, and then their aging slows way down by comparison. Honestly, humans do a similar thing just over a longer period.
@moisesmarquez7564
4 ай бұрын
@@jamesmcdonnell2455 Youre assuming she isnt past that first few years of her life. They said elf lives seem like immortality, so id assume 1000 years is still a drop in the bucket. Meaning shes still physically growing.
@sleepingmorpheus
4 ай бұрын
Canonically she's the equivalent of a 15 year old human.
@sanguiniusonvacation1803
4 ай бұрын
She's gonna live a stupidly long time.
@K0nMusic
4 ай бұрын
SHE'S LEGAL BOIS (for several reasons, this is a joke)
@zyswanson7865
3 ай бұрын
I think she’s closer to 14-16 years old based on the way she acts and has an outlook on things. Still childish but becoming more mature slowly (very slowly)
@genji44544
4 ай бұрын
I am 14 years old 5.2 feet 40 kg can do 20 haved hit puberty don't know why I am happy
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