you forgot to add the fact where if a streamer or tryhard loses to a regular or casual player they'll call him a cheater but if they beat him they'll call him trash.
@AsherTheModder
9 ай бұрын
Yup. And thats why i dont respect em.
@smsanji458
8 ай бұрын
Damn bruh I forgot, Bugha does that Edit: Majority of streamers on twitch do this, they die to someone and call them trash. It's sad
@voyager14
8 ай бұрын
I remember when Sceptic killed Tfue and Tfue called him a stream-sniper. Instantly lost a lot of respect for him
@InitialFailure
7 ай бұрын
This is why I'm self regulated to just fighting games nowadays; it's very hard to cheat, let alone cheat and not get noticed.
@RonaldRegain
7 ай бұрын
Its great SBMM prevents tryhards to jump into noob lobbies to make "cool" content while others just want to enjoy their evening.
@Drewtoonss
11 ай бұрын
Streamers most def ruined gaming, in any game now it’s a sweat fest it’s either you’re a sweat or trash there’s no in between
@kameronwak
11 ай бұрын
FACTS, you either have to sweat or get sweated on💀
@coltoon3431
9 ай бұрын
so we’re in plastic….
@CDM67
9 ай бұрын
Not really i will be chilling and having fun i play however i feel like at the time
@chives8980
9 ай бұрын
Then don't play multiplayer games, there's tons of single player story driven games.
@_machello_8510
8 ай бұрын
I would say that sweating is going to become a dominant over casuals since the casuals will become the sweats.
@nkzeta2315
6 ай бұрын
there is a reason i enjoy single player games so much. there's no pressure since at best you're competing with yourself.
@eliteplier
6 ай бұрын
Especially games with a great Story like the Uncharted series
@timecrashv5wu709
5 ай бұрын
Dark souls 💀
@Blackleg_Wanji
5 ай бұрын
I'm personally going through Persona 5 rn
@trentoncastro7227
5 ай бұрын
The whole doom series is amazing
@Isaiasguerrerorivas
5 ай бұрын
The Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom is really fun tho
@GriffinProductions
7 ай бұрын
"If given the opportunity, humans will optimize the fun out of everything"
@Papolllo
7 ай бұрын
No I have fun still
@ishyameru6232
7 ай бұрын
Maybe, but it’s worth if I win 🙂
@Brotherman010
7 ай бұрын
Those pesky Humans 🤬
@ProjectXv2
7 ай бұрын
Entropy is the word I’d use for the state of gaming culture these days.
@RainerRilke3
7 ай бұрын
Lazy cliche catchphrase. This literally only applies to videogames
@RisuTheMan
8 ай бұрын
I think it's actually the unholy sweatiness of the modern entertainment landscape that allows games like Lethal Company to thrive in such a competitive and toxic scene. It's a game that exists outside the ultra-competitive landscape and provides viewers with something way less serious, and way more fun. An escape from the endless metagaming and competition, people like watching it not because someone's the best at the game, but because it's fun
@olmanggg3
7 ай бұрын
Wanna know why why Lethal company and other games like Palworld got famous becuase they are not pvp games. I do not know why this guy says the times were you can chose a lobby in COD was better that shit was sweaty as hell. Steeamers did not ruin gaming gaming pvp was always sweaty I do not know what he is talking about.
@ishyameru6232
7 ай бұрын
@@olmanggg3literally, it’s just higher stakes and more cameras. For the majority of gaming history pvp hasn’t been king
@gabe6646
7 ай бұрын
I think the same could be said about any coop game, it's hard to dunk on people and be a general nuisance when you're supposed to work together
@TheRealCatof
7 ай бұрын
People need to stop caring about rank. Competitive games are fun, raging because you lose is sad. When I play Counter Strike, I don't care if I win or lose.
@AV-xm5ln
7 ай бұрын
@@olmanggg3 pvp back then was NOWHERE NEAR as sweaty as it is now. Idk what you're talking about.
@agauld3212
6 ай бұрын
In no other sport would professional players smash average dudes chilling out after work and call them trash. Its a weird mentality
@zmoney88_5
6 ай бұрын
That’s bc it’s not a real sport. Little brother mentality fs
@agauld3212
6 ай бұрын
@zmoney88_5 they play the game professionally, top world players. Against dudes with day jobs just chilling. It's the whole everyone is trash or cringe that is a bad look for some of them
@Seb7an
6 ай бұрын
Yeah it's like Real Madrid smashing an amateur team in a friendly match and then calling them trash and laughing at them after the match. 😂
@optyfvl
6 ай бұрын
good players play with other good players. ur dying to children who WANT to be like them 😭 and being an adult ur gonna lose to kids with that much freetime and thats always how its gonna be bro 😭
@xninja2369
5 ай бұрын
Bro you did never play in real life , go touch some grass idk where are you from but pro people (specially most of the time basketball/football players) really makes fun of beginner and sometimes even ruin Their game , downlplay them and which lead to low self-esteem and low confidence and make them question on themselves and their carrier now when I say this people say you gotta fight for yourself them that's same thing goes for eSports ... not saying E-sport is better, no it's not but amount of toxicity is pretty much similar in nith side (from my experience)
@A_Wild_Dyzzy
7 ай бұрын
The opposite of catering to bad players happened to other games because of streamers as well. WoW was listening to all of the top streamers and making things more challenging because that’s what they wanted. Completely forgetting that these streamers, that sit on their rump for 14 hours a day playing the same game over and over, are not the majority of their player base.
@key2shawn154
7 ай бұрын
That’s streames get mad they want the developers to focuse on sweats instead of casuals
@FazeRustyNuts
7 ай бұрын
@@key2shawn154just get better and stop complaining
@key2shawn154
7 ай бұрын
@@FazeRustyNuts ooh really the same tired overused sentence that sentence is literally useless because everybody has said the same thing I said the game is getting too sweaty and streamers are causing it you want every game to feel like a you have money on the line
@alexanderredhorse1297
7 ай бұрын
@@FazeRustyNuts complaining is how things get looked at to be fixed. if a lot of people are complaining then that is a systemic problem, not an individualized one. you are complaining about other people complaining - how about you take your own advice and shut the f|u|c|k up
@kylemayer8486
6 ай бұрын
@FazeRustyNuts try leaving your parents' basement sometime.
@Craighgbnn
7 ай бұрын
Another issue you didn't mention is how it's affected what a game actually is. Live service games have to cater to streamers who can play 8 hours a day like a full time job who will complain about a "lack of content" in the first 2 days of a game being out. So we end up with games with quantity over quality, endless grinds, fomo mechanics etc etc.
@fuhjrvr7474
7 ай бұрын
yup my brother took like about 3-4 weeks to finish cyberpunk almost a month and that was him on winter break playing since he’s a teacher so he sped up a lot . compared to my cousin he finished it in 2 days idk how
@zsomborbudai7473
7 ай бұрын
Yepp Diablo 4 is not a good game by any means but the best items are only possible to get if you play it like a 9-5 job. Any normal human has no chance to get them.
@RitoDaOg
6 ай бұрын
That’s why we need more games like BO3, Nobody complained about content back then… If u got tired of multiplayer you had all the dope ass zombie maps to run with the boys, You could always get on that game and find something fun to do🤷♂️
@lastpringle8904
6 ай бұрын
And anything those Streamers complain about being too broken, like a weapon, it gets instantly nerfed and the rest of us have to watch the game become poorly balanced because these streamers have a huge ego and can't admit when they just lost fair and square
@citizenvulpes4562
6 ай бұрын
@@RitoDaOg Except for the fact that BO3 had random loot boxes that locked weapons behind them.
@CONEYZZ
6 ай бұрын
bro wtf did I do
@timothyc5274
6 ай бұрын
idk
@thatguy8841
6 ай бұрын
.
@nexonus9513
6 ай бұрын
And that’s facts
@atwistedb
5 ай бұрын
and thats facts
@thedolphinwithdrip7514
5 ай бұрын
And that’s facts
@t.styles2k202
9 ай бұрын
Social media/online ruined gaming overall. My 30 and up crowd knows what I’m talking about.
@SystemParanoia
7 ай бұрын
UT goty edition... Towers instagib will be forever goated 🏆
@grindcoreninja6527
7 ай бұрын
Remember alt costumes and extra content was unlockable through playing the game? And cheat codes?
@criticalf0ll0w16
7 ай бұрын
I just never agreed to a take like this and maybe it's because I'm younger and I'm turning 20 soon but online has not even gotten close to "ruining gaming" because of games like Monster Hunter, Deep Rock, Baulder's Gate, and the newly released Lethal Company and even then there's absolutely nothing making you play "competitive" multiplier games and there's a bunch of games that are just genuinely fun without it being "sweaty" (and even then I don't like that word but that's a topic for another day)
@H41030v3rki110ny0u
7 ай бұрын
@@criticalf0ll0w16no shame, but online gaming really IS that much different than gaming pre-2007ish.. LAN parties were a whole different vibe.. MMO's functioned totally differently without having things like discord.. you really just can't understand unless you lived through it.
@H41030v3rki110ny0u
7 ай бұрын
@@criticalf0ll0w16likewise... Take Halo 3 as another example, you unlocked alternate appearances & armor by... Playing the game and doing cool stuff... Not by spending $$
@th3juic3isloos3
8 ай бұрын
I'd love to just jump on warzone with the boys after work and decompress and instead it feels like I'm clocking into a second job.
@-_-..7
7 ай бұрын
Play storyline co-op games they are the best
@lynchmobb119
7 ай бұрын
Have you tried getting better at the game?
@-_-..7
7 ай бұрын
@@lynchmobb119 it's working hard to get better and that's not fun lmao
@lynchmobb119
7 ай бұрын
@@-_-..7 okay so play something casual. That’s a poor work ethic not streamers bad.
@lynchmobb119
7 ай бұрын
@@-_-..7 also idk how bad you are but the learning curve for games like cod and Fortnite is so low literal 8 year olds can figure it out. If you’re talking about eft or rb6 I feel it but most games are made to be as casual as possible
@aaronlantrip6400
6 ай бұрын
Vanoss Crew is the definition of just having fun with the boys
@toyoseries
6 ай бұрын
So does YoVideoGames
@Dr.Freeman...
Ай бұрын
russianbadger:
@RIGman0497
Ай бұрын
Smii7y Crew
@lookatmyzombies9377
7 ай бұрын
In old school cod we made friends because we would find ourselves in the same lobby as a dude for 10 games in a row. Now we have fewer chances to make friends because it breaks the lobbies up immediately.
@twillyallen
7 ай бұрын
Damn those were the days
@billclinton4521
6 ай бұрын
Underrated comment
@Tay_BigANG
6 ай бұрын
Or because now players only run it back with you if your a fuckin sweat lol
@keithconnell8460
6 ай бұрын
I still play some online shooters but never accept or send friend requests anymore. Especially not in COD. I think the whole system is broken in COD. You can't get the same players in 2 consecutive matches and then half of the time you're playing against cheaters and/or clans that are running together.
@TheSteelernation11
6 ай бұрын
Facts I made friends wit this one dude damn near 15yrs ago playing in a HALO: REACH lobby & haven't spoken to him since I had a X box 360. That was my boy
@BellowDGaming
6 ай бұрын
Its an old saying "You're the winner, but did you have fun?"
@TheACTIONZ
6 ай бұрын
Yes. Because the fun of competitive video games is getting better at it, and seeing results just like real sports. Everyone has their preferences. There's tons of good single player games, if you enjoy some casual gaming.
@misterboxhead3045
6 ай бұрын
Well yes, I'm terrible at video games, getting an win is always good to me
@BicBoi1984
6 ай бұрын
Owning noobs is always fun
@lonelyleague3369
6 ай бұрын
@TheACTIONZ this right here. I enjoy multi-player games with friends because we can come together and do weird strategy and dumb things and we enjoy it no matter what. Casual gaming isn't for only single player games. If I can't enjoy a video game with friends than why would I play it. The last game that did it amazing was rumbleverse. An amazing casual fast paced game. Where even sweats could get killed because I can jump on cars and bounce 60 thousand feet in the air with a high priority super move that slams you on the floor. And one shots. And that's why it died to fast. It was to casual for a player. It had a competing scene but it wasn't big because anyone can be good and have fun.
@silvergiovanni5336
6 ай бұрын
The only fun there is on competitions is winning. If you're not winning, you are losing, and that is not fun. The world will be a fun place if everyone only thought of winning (Meaning, doing a lot of cheesy strats that will award them a win)
@aghostanimage
2 ай бұрын
KZitemrs killed gaming and streamers buried it.
@Fireofunknownorigim6052
11 ай бұрын
In all honesty bro, youtube has been mad stale for the past few years and it's a breath of fresh air when I see small content creators who make enjoyable content. I don't really comment on anything but I really enjoy your stuff, and how you seem so down to earth and releateable. I hope you continue to do so broski 😎
@kameronwak
11 ай бұрын
Appreciate that dawg Fr, glad you enjoyed🙏🏾
@rathalosranger4537
10 ай бұрын
True👌
@Phosphor_Sco
8 ай бұрын
We're entering a new era of KZitem
@Kryvo_
7 ай бұрын
I do wish this “meta gaming” content wouldn’t be so dominate, but that’s just how it is, love small creators for that kind of stuff and pushing the boundaries of doing stuff because it’s funny and goofy
@EpE002
7 ай бұрын
Yes to this
@LilyTheNecromancer
7 ай бұрын
The problem is, these people expect you to treat the game like a job, and if you don't want to, they tell you to go play single -player games. There have always been sweaty players, but it feels like they've become the majority. After a while, it just becomes more annoying than fun to play with these people, win or lose.
@MrJakeros
6 ай бұрын
couldn't agree more. These type of people ruins games I had the fondest memories of.
@lonespartan2272
6 ай бұрын
Thats exactly why i left destiny 2 as its community and the game itself revolved around it treating the game like a 2nd or a 3rd job to play. It wasnt about having fun like in the first game. If you wanted the best gear or that current op weapon or armor thats not yet nerfed into the ground? Well tough you need a group to do these things were some of these group activities will outright punish you for playing in a group and not let you get that guaranteed drop. Or a better example. First time raiding and want to do one for that cool warlock jacket? Well your not getting in unless you have 7+ clears on you.
@ruhrohrag
6 ай бұрын
@@lonespartan2272 ive done one of the dungeons 45+ times without getting the exotic to drop, that game is a second or third job. theres literally no other way to put it lol.
@andrewrules231
6 ай бұрын
You people are just soft. I'm gonna guess your all gen z and never played in the arcades. We used to put up real money to play and those sweats were standing right beside you talking shit right to your face.
@horsma2064
6 ай бұрын
Inherently competitive games, such as shooters, in this case, the Counter Strike series, have **always** been about killing people and doing the objective. Probably close to a third of my playtime is on jailbreak servers
@deltablues24
6 ай бұрын
Is it only me that thinks this guy contradicts himself throghout the video? He states that people sweating and taking games seriously for the leaderboard, for the money and for streaming are ruining gaming but then he continues to say that skill based matchmaking is bad because people who are good at the game are punished and the bad ones are getting rewarded. The tweet he shows 8:32 is literally describing himself because he was complaining about people being good at games up until that point. MAKE UP YOUR MIND BROTHER
@vgamedude12
6 ай бұрын
No not just you. Video is absolutely incoherent nonsense. Like just hit record and starting talking with no point or script or idea at all.
@sightbride5148
5 ай бұрын
Dude could benefit from outlining this like a video essay and having a thesis argument because I'm still not sure what his point is. One section he talks about how sweats have ruined gaming, but in the section right after he complains about matchmaking that makes it unfun for sweats. He just repeated two very popular opinions from both sides and tries to frame them together like they support the same idea but it doesn't seem like he realizes they're from two opposite sides of the board. Literally he's complaining about streaming and esports culture in the first part and then in the second he uses a tweet from A STREAMER AND ESPORTS PLAYER that argues against the point he was just making 2 minutes ago.
@vgamedude12
5 ай бұрын
@@sightbride5148 this is what I'm saying. Like bro only got clout for this video because asmongold and because he's black.
@lylelylecrocodile2538
5 ай бұрын
@@sightbride5148 this guy did NOT pass the middle school argumentative essay assignment
@vgamedude12
5 ай бұрын
@tracehail I don't care. It's true. The video is a incoherent mess.
@danielmikhail2701
6 ай бұрын
I work a full time job, I’m 34 and I have a family. I don’t have time to sweat all the time. Streamers are the reason why I now gravitate towards single player titles. lol
@Darkendesire
6 ай бұрын
For me multiplayer games just arnt as fun anymore and at the time I never really thought of single player games it’s fun to chill now and not think to hard about it
@danielc9595
6 ай бұрын
Same here. I only play PvE with my buddies. Or single player
@Doom-rv4go
6 ай бұрын
The whole sweat problem is why I play games like war thunder where if you get shot behind you can’t turn around In less than a half a second and it depends on the vehicles instead
@picknick6775
6 ай бұрын
And even single player games, I have to watch out because people online will still blast my KZitem feed with stupid videos of "things I wish I knew before playing X game". Like we don't wanna know, we want to experience it ourselves...
@Johnsmithhjoe
6 ай бұрын
Every PVP game has always been played to win. You didn't start playing singleplayer games because of streamers, you started playing single players games because you didn't want to keep losing.
@unknown-mo9ud
9 ай бұрын
Honestly gaming has been on a decline once people realized they can popular and make money of it. The amount of times I've seen mfs livestreaming themselves blatantly hacking on apex and fortnite because thats what gets views is genuinely disappointing
@fate8718
6 ай бұрын
I think its 50-50 because streaming has legitimatly brought people together and made communities that are kinda wholesome But yeah it gets bad
@RambofromWarzone
6 ай бұрын
Shoot I’m cool with the 2-3 guys that make it a daily habit to check my streams out
@rrr13455
6 ай бұрын
maybe cuz gaming is also a job? also, imagine complaining about being destroyed at a competitive/ranked game, just stfu
@rrr13455
6 ай бұрын
and how about playing a casual/offline game if you want a casual experience? maybe its not hard to think...
@Doggo_is_sus
4 ай бұрын
@@rrr13455 there is no offline games that we can play with friends and have fun
@SLG7celloMex
2 ай бұрын
New game comes out, new hacks available, audience believe their favor streamer is gifted. They ruin the fun of casuals and legit players and then the audience wants to imitate and cheat as well. Then repeat the formula with every single game.
@PatrickWilliams-ts4le
7 ай бұрын
Not streaming specifically, but the Internet has had a negative impact on competitive multiplayer. So many games are just everybody running the same few metas of whatever they see on KZitem.
@keithconnell8460
6 ай бұрын
I agree with that. In any shooter especially, you get a lot of people playing follow the leader, because over time people figure out the loadouts and such. But now with social media it's off the charts. Everyone is trying to run the same set up, then those guns get deemed OP, then get nerfed, and everyone moves on to the next big thing, and the cycle repeats itself.
@ArnoldFrost
6 ай бұрын
@@keithconnell8460 You'd be surprised some single-player games with MMORPG elements in them have it too lol, even some gacha games (basically CN/JP live service games; though most of the time these people are mostly from the Hoyoverse games, namely Honkai Impact/Star Rail and Genshin). That said, some games' metas are mostly frowned/get tiresome and usually it's games that haven't entered the "casual" sphere or at least wasn't built upon it (the latter which applies to something like Elden Ring)
@SimplyK3nny
11 ай бұрын
Most of the time when I’m getting cooked I just sit there in silence with the homelander music playing in the background while I stare at the score gap getting wider and wider from what it once was 😮💨
@kameronwak
11 ай бұрын
LMAOOO, real
@Brimst0ne_XB
2 ай бұрын
It's not just PvP or streamers. It's the players as well. People are so desperate to speed run through every game that they don't even experience games the way they were meant to be played. There are so many leaks and reddit groups of people sharing information like a hive mind that everyone knows the game inside and out before they even release. They comb over teaser trailers frame by frame just to get any tiny morsel of information. There are alphas, betas, demos and public serer tests etc. so by the time a game releases there is no mystery. Too much info has been leaked by then. Players don't even experiment with weapons or abilities. They go to a website or KZitem video before they even launch the game to find the meta build and they'll stay on that build until the devs are forced to balance things. Then they'll panic and scramble frantically to find the "new meta" and so on.. It's absolutely pathetic.
@Evilwhisperrs
7 ай бұрын
I knew I wasn’t tripping streamers most definitely ruined gaming we can’t just be chill and have fun and play casually in every game we gotta run the best load out it’s insane
@key2shawn154
7 ай бұрын
@@anie7254I quit apex Fortnite even cod 3 for a while and the finals
@FazeRustyNuts
7 ай бұрын
Just stop complaining and get better, I dropped 16 Kills in Fortnite using all Grey weapons before, you don't need the best loadout to be good.
@Evilwhisperrs
7 ай бұрын
@@FazeRustyNuts you can’t really tell me to get better if I’m not the only one who thinks this goofy idc you drop 100 kills the reality still remains knows and real because these wanna be tryhards see their favorite creators or streamer play like pros and they wanna be like them and they turn into gyms socks basically wannabe tryhards to get good like that bro you have to play like hours and hours a day to win 90% of your matches not everyone wants to play sweaty all the time you gotta remember people got responsibilities and also casual players as well so get your head out your asshole and think logically for a sec
@Evilwhisperrs
7 ай бұрын
@@FazeRustyNuts my good main not everyone games to be a sweaty ass virgin who is a wanna be tryhard because they see their favorite streamers and creators play like pros streamers do play a big role is ruined gaming because these wannabe tryhards watch their favorite creators play and wants to play like them and become gyms socks just so they could play like them, a (wannabe try hard) y’all gotta think about casual gamers as well I don’t mind a challenge every now and than but having to perform 100% of the time in every match is very exhausting so get your head out your asshole for 2 seconds and think logically for a sec and also so little do y’all people know that to perform like those streamers and creators you see you have to play the game like a full time job literally (8-12 hours a day)
@key2shawn154
7 ай бұрын
@@FazeRustyNuts you act like that has never been done by anybody except you and green blue and purple guns do more damage than grey it doesn’t matter how many kills got with grey level guns
@zapboytv
7 ай бұрын
Not facts but just a theory I have… Yes streamers and esports ruined gaming because these 2 things got more popular than casual gaming so in return we get developers that think that this is how the gamers/viewers want to play so they implemented sbmm in every multiplayer game even when there’s “social game modes”.
@TheACTIONZ
6 ай бұрын
Multiplayer shooters are not the only genre of video games
@zapboytv
6 ай бұрын
@@TheACTIONZ your point? Party Animals has sbmm and it’s not a shooter.
@LoverBoyWalker
6 ай бұрын
@@zapboytvHow can casual gaming be ruined if only a select few genres have been “ruined”?
@zapboytv
6 ай бұрын
@@LoverBoyWalker obviously I care about the multiplayer genre and I understand some can’t read or take things too literal but just to help you or anyone else out having trouble understanding… casual (multiplayer) games are ruined. Happy? Not sure if it was a mystery that I was only talking about multiplayer but there you go.
@LoverBoyWalker
6 ай бұрын
@@zapboytv Who can’t read? You said casual gaming as a whole was ruined and then said devs added sbmm to most multiplayer games which is true, but sbmm isn’t bad when done loosely and not strictly. Take cod for example people always blame sbmm when they don’t use sbmm but use eomm which is way worse. EOMM or Engagement Optimized Matchmaking which puts you in games where you are guaranteed to win then puts you games that you are guaranteed to lose to keep you hooked and playing, so that’s why every game feels like a cdl game. Instead of confirming or denying EOMM Activision avoided the question about it by classifying engagement as playtime rather than positive or negative experience which is the actual question we wanted answered
@AnimeProtag
5 ай бұрын
The kids don’t understand in the comments because they grew up in this era of gaming so this makes no sense to them
@shanechannel7066
7 ай бұрын
Im 30 years old. I remember back when competitive gaming was a small subculture. Now its the mainstream
@bwillsskates2638
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I remember only a few people had HD PVRs to capture gameplay of cod 4, mw2 (2009) and a few other games. then twitch became a thing and now everyone does this shit lol. I remember there were only clans like FaZe, Optic, SoaR
@averageasian292
6 ай бұрын
Yes. I was part of it- local tourneys, gamebattles- paid gamertags and sponsorships. At 31 yo now, that comp side of me is worn out. I just want to chill and have fun, but my friends cannot because winning means more than having fun. People who win alot, can deal with a loss. Those who take losses, need a win to feel better.
@tomfom11
5 ай бұрын
@@bwillsskates2638 I played cod2/4 casual 15vs15 search and destroy, and they were fun, but there were also really good players, I would dare to say that as CS global rank, there were some and yes there were also tense moments, sometimes it looks like real competition, but no one yelled at you if you screwed up or played badly. you went to a TDM server that was full of them, which for some was to warm up before you played with friends to play tournaments, interestingly there were also very good players who played for fun
@Deadmeatsz
8 ай бұрын
The problem with playing only to win is that it usually takes the easiest way forward (i.e meta slaves and cheese tactics). And streamers and pro players who say get gud are major hypocrites considering the amount of cheating that goes on in their scene. If the game is designed in such a way to reward cheese/meta sheep strats, then it wont matter how good you get. It will be more of a chore than fun.
@chelsthegameruiner8669
7 ай бұрын
I utterly despise metas with a burning passion. I still remember the Starfire Protocol meta for Warlocks in Destiny 2 that effectively made the game incredibly boring since you were forced into the support role. It's why I ended up changing to Hunter for a good bit before the exotic was finally nerfed
@IJC52
Ай бұрын
Gaming in this new generation is almost a waste of time, the pretty graphics save it. Everything is too sweaty that gaming feels more like a job than a game. In the end is it even worth it when you’re getting grey hairs because of how stressful every game is. We have to fight to keep video games fun again, most of these streamers aren’t even worth following because they cheat(lagswitch,aimbot,god mode, etc.). In the end you just build a gaming community who hates one another. And if you’re a gamer like me who just plays for fun or to kill time it just leaves a sour taste in your mouth. That’s when you start reminiscing about the old days when it was just about the fun.
@joedatius
12 күн бұрын
its always the "i just play to have fun" who say the most shit to people and sound the most unhappy. most of the people you say are "wasting" their time are the ones having fun dude.
@IJC52
11 күн бұрын
@@joedatius so what do you play for then if it’s not for fun?
@notjuron
11 ай бұрын
Na that ttv name shi is so fax they never be streaming
@kameronwak
11 ай бұрын
LMAOOOO, never seen one TTV gamertag actually stream😭
@Kryxx07
7 ай бұрын
Whenever I see a TTV in Rocket League, I'll look them up. It's like a treasure hunt, now, because it's so rare. Maybe 1 in 50 are live. Maybe I'll start telling them in game, "If you're live right now, I'll sub." The risk is low, because they never are, haha.
@PartyMarty321
7 ай бұрын
You know you gotta poop on those TTV tags when you see them
@bruhyote132
7 ай бұрын
@@PartyMarty321Yo FACTS LMFAO Everytime I take a game from a TTV kid I instantly shit on them in their chat. The funny thing to me about these TTV bums is that they always look so miserable on stream like they ain’t having fun at all 💀 (Whenever you catch the few that are live)
@thefruityking6722
6 ай бұрын
I encountered a couple of actual TTVs who stream. One of them was recording his keyboard lol.
@BByDarth
7 ай бұрын
It’s sad cuz I always here streamers saying “why play a game if ur not making money off it” it’s sad
@beondinsane905
7 ай бұрын
Ive never heard someone say that
@FazeRustyNuts
7 ай бұрын
That's not sad, not playing for money is just a waste of time, you sound like a broke boy, I play games for fun but I'm not gonna be in denial like you about it being a waste of time, if you're not making money you're just wasting time and that goes for anything you do not just gaming.
@SZJA
6 ай бұрын
Nah that comment comes from old heads who just suck at a game
@MrJakeros
6 ай бұрын
@@SZJA "old heads", huh. I'm sure there's a better way to phrase that but I'll just presume you mean "old people". Just remember you'll be one of those people some day soon. Youth doesn't stay.
@joaocunha4813
6 ай бұрын
Litteraly nobody is saying that. Stop making fake examples to prove your point it doest help either side.
@frafra40
5 ай бұрын
The worst part, in my opinion, is the toxicity derived from this. As you said people that rushes to create video of this so called META before the game is even released makes all the no brain people go and play all the same build/deck list/character and they call you a troll if you are open minded an try to test something different. This META concept is what ruins the games and it must be taken in consideration that this is a very wrong way to play because it just takes someone smart to invent something new and all at sudden the "META" changes. I personally, lately, stopped to play any kind of online games as i find there is no fun anymore and there is too much toxicity and went back to enjoy a lot single player games.
@Johnsmithhjoe
Ай бұрын
META’s have always existed. Good luck finding a single PvP game from 10-20+ years ago that didn’t have any META. What is different is the ability to spread false information. Also same level of toxicity has always existed. Games are now starting to censor. Which game do you remember not being toxic?
@josetomascamposrobledano4618
7 ай бұрын
There is something interesting here. Back in the day, a prestige master was rare/unique. Today, seeing a maximum rank player is a Tuesday. People in general play more. When season Passes first became popular, it was an achievement to complete it. Now it seems like everyone completes them!
@kappswazy_
5 ай бұрын
Exactly. Used to be rare to see top level players & achievements or whatever.
@Nuxyen
8 ай бұрын
There's something more than just streamers beign pro. Another problem is when devs start to ballancing their game based on performance of pro players. Trying to fix things that pro players find too easy. All strategies on pve games, those tips&tricks saying how to perform super efficient, all shortcuts etc. Few patches like this and the game have very big skill threshold at the beginning of the journey which can be discouraging.
@Linklex7
7 ай бұрын
This right here.
@bravoeleven8258
7 ай бұрын
This is what I’ve been saying since 2014 when the competitive CoD scene started growing and the pros started streaming every day and getting invited to test out the new call of duty’s. The devs gather input from the “pros” and tailor the game based on their input and the result is the state of CoD as we see it today.
@Frewo_
7 ай бұрын
@@bravoeleven8258 I think LoL has always been this way, but all that "play it your way" bs, isn't really true when they remove items people like and nerf our favorite champions because a pro had a great performance on a tournament. Like Akali was busted on launch, but they removed everything they could.
@RedrumCrazy
7 ай бұрын
Overwatch in a nutshell..
@key2shawn154
7 ай бұрын
@@bravoeleven8258same thing apex legends pro’s complain about a balanced ability so EA nerfs it but didn’t take into account its only pros complaining day in and day out
@Skull-fw9pl
2 ай бұрын
Gaming is ruined MFs after playing a single player indie game with actual love and care put into it
@Liquidfard
2 ай бұрын
Instagram ahh caption
@ChuxDiaz
6 ай бұрын
I remember when Pal world released not even 2 hours later there was already a video saying " Best base building pals " I was like "dude did you catch every Pal and put them to work to see which one works better than the others!!!! how!?!?
@loonylenny
6 ай бұрын
I saw the same thing a few days after Helldivers2 released. it's a PVE game it's not CoD, it's not Destiny, it's not Fortnight, its not Apex Legends; it's a four player co-op game. I knew that was going to cause problems, and I was right it did.
@NoxTheZombie
6 ай бұрын
Me and my modded pal world save with a literal hotel for pals
@Seb7an
6 ай бұрын
One week after release there were already videos like "advanced palworld endgame tips". disgusting 😂
@fredasd7017
6 ай бұрын
@@Seb7anthere is no endgame so thats just a bait video. your dumb
@shruiyaku
11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't blame streamers. Try harding was everywhere. It is what it is. If anything streaming helped gaming become more popular. I don't like try hards don't get my wrong. You can't really have fun anymore when trying to play casually. It's really content creators or speed runners etc. Yes I can agree that streaming played a part. Sweats were here before streaming you always ran into a crazy ass good player outta nowhere and yeah I play to win, I have fun on the side but I don't play to only have fun I wanna go all out and be the top player at the end of a match it just feels great. Granted im not the crazy good player but I loved this topic regardless ❤
@joejones3387
5 ай бұрын
you just summed up the current gaming generation, nailed it. Great video
@kevine9474
5 ай бұрын
He really didn't.
@trentoncastro7227
5 ай бұрын
@@kevine9474 sorry bro but he really did
@shemarlmc
7 ай бұрын
This is 100% facts along with SBMM, everytime I turn on the game to play some cod, I get thrown in a lobby against some sweats using JGOD class setup jumping, prefiring and slide canceling everywhere. Like bruh I just got off work where’s the chill lobbies?
@EchoDoctrine
7 ай бұрын
Its based on skill so are you sweating and too good. IF you lost a few games and weren’t as goated wouldn’t that put you in lobby you say you want, but then you pub stomp those casuals in low skill lobby and get back into higher tier and get beat by pros? Is that whats happening? Hmmmm
@shemarlmc
7 ай бұрын
@@EchoDoctrine unfortunately not, I truly think once you reach a certain skill level you will never see low skill players again unless you reverse boost, or play a game mode like ground war with a bigger pool of players. Every 6v6 lobby I load up is a sweat fest even still today
@RavenStorm332
6 ай бұрын
@@EchoDoctrinethat's how sbmm is supposed to work but people are making smurf accounts which destroys the purpose of sbmm. The implementation of sbmm isn't the problem it's people creating smurf accounts that and have games only use sbmm for their ranked games while casual games are just a mix of players. Though if people don't like sbmm they could play Smite which doesn't use sbmm even though it should
@christocream
6 ай бұрын
I’m a maxed out clash of clans player playing for fun to get the new townhall upgrades when added and the esports scene completely ruined town hall 15. The pros always complain how easy the game is when the game is made for 10 yr olds btw. The pros can 3 star any base with barbarians only which 99% of normal players cant even get 10% of a base destroyed with that. Clash of clans decided to design town hall 15 for the esports pro scene and the result was it was extremely unfun for normal players and purely impossible to attack from how beyond strong they made all the defenses
@xninja2369
3 ай бұрын
I never thought something so small like clash of clans would be esport game 😥.. Can't even enjoy toddler's game now..
@eratolace8368
5 күн бұрын
It’s so adorable seeing kids make these video essays - completely unaware of what came before them
@theryno3042
11 ай бұрын
The sweats always say that if your mad then just put time into the game and get good. It's tough when someone has kids and a full time job. All I want to do it play a few games of Fortnite when I have a moment between the craziness that is life. I dont know if SBMM is working or not but I'm not seeing Ninja struggle to get wins many times when these top guys lose its because of stream snipers. I agree the game is getting ruined because you have these try hards trying to be the next Ninja... it gets annoying
@Xumbie
7 ай бұрын
Bruh kids still got “next ninja” mentality to this day. Sad life
@chelsthegameruiner8669
7 ай бұрын
@@XumbieFor real, I've seen some crazy ass shit recently in Fortnite. It's always great to crush those players though because it's blatantly clear they're more interested in showing off than fighting
@FazeRustyNuts
7 ай бұрын
I barley play Fortnite and I dominate in lobbies, stop making excuses for your lack of skill.
@nathalia8146
7 ай бұрын
@@FazeRustyNutsleast self aware fortnite player:
@Rossoneri2
7 ай бұрын
@@FazeRustyNutsbravo, go play competitive instead of bragging about crushing casuals
@coranimalgaming3101
7 ай бұрын
That is why i have built my channel to have fun... we win, we lose, but at the end of the day, we have some great memories.
@mufasathor8525
6 ай бұрын
This video reminds me of those kids from school who were convinced that everyone who plays sports secretly hate it and only do it because they want to go pro and make money. People who love competitive gaming naturally want to see how far they can go. They might give the streaming thing a go cause, why not? They might join a local esports team cause, why not? But don't get it twisted, they are enjoying themselves... they just enjoy things differently than you do.
@childof83
11 ай бұрын
Thank you sooooo much for making this. I dont mind e gamers or streamers but I dont think EVERYONE needs to do it. I like casual gaming when it comes to fps games.
@duhbullb
6 ай бұрын
This is why I avoid multi-player pretty much as a whole now. I can't just play to have fun anymore
@Seb7an
6 ай бұрын
same
@J0Nramirez
8 күн бұрын
I was aware of what "tryharding" was growing up but it was when I learned about "XP Waste" in RuneScape that blew my mind a bit in how people cared that much.
@antaresvasto7343
7 ай бұрын
I think it comes down more to a lack of communities. I mean the fact the sweaty players get the most attention is not necessarily a bad thing the problem is that WE are giving to much priority to them. Instead we should start making more communities with the FUN aspect at its core. The matchmaking is a problem yes but if you had enough people to play with you could just make custom matches. I think another problem is that we rely way to much on matchmaking to be able to play with others instead of like old school games you were forced to find people to play with because online did not exist back then. Maybe another reason why games were so much fun before.
@manunited7882
7 ай бұрын
Nah if we're paying money we shouldn't be forced to play how they want. Sbmm needs to go.. its not that hard
@antaresvasto7343
7 ай бұрын
its their product... Just don't pay them lmaooooo @@manunited7882
@LRMillsy
6 ай бұрын
This is so damn true, every game that comes out now is so competitive, its not even about enjoying the game anymore…
@misterboxhead3045
6 ай бұрын
Ok you motherfucker, what is competitive in lethal company? Better yet, what is competitive in pizza tower? The thing is this motherfucker online games aren't the only games in the world, and fps games aren't genre of online of games in the world, but it's easy to ignore to ignore the good stuff instead of the stuff you find bad right?
@blitheixgaming1289
6 ай бұрын
Play helldivers 2
@BigBoss-cc2mh
6 ай бұрын
Texas chainsaw massacre game is a blast try it out
@dandyjandon4231
6 ай бұрын
competition is what makes fun either your competing against peers or the AI, which scales with difficulty. There is no dopamine reward if there is no competition, you just need to stpo crying and get better at the game, or quit and do something else like knit sweaters.
@Star-um9cz
6 ай бұрын
@@dandyjandon4231What the hell is wrong with you??
@kekf_lol
Ай бұрын
I remember when I could hop into these multiplayer games for fun. I was playing to unlock camos and have fun with friends. Now it’s more like you’re playing for a level or a rank, u have to pay to even unlock stuff… and then on top of that yes every kid is recording and they are sweaty af
@TheContrarian09
7 ай бұрын
Yes. I remember young naive me wanted esports to be taken seriously, so my family would stop downtalking my hobby. Now, i wish i could go back to those days so much, i don’t even play pvp games anymore.
@Deceptinerd1995
6 ай бұрын
This issue can be adressed even in the most unexpected places. I am a Transformers fan, and that also means that I like playing Fall of Cybertron, that is unfortunately flooded with tryhards and sweaters, that kill you the momment you spawn. I am not that good, but I just play for fun, and playing with people like them takes away all the fun and becomes so frustrating. Glad someone talks about the topic
@Heytherebuds
4 ай бұрын
Yes it has been ruined imo. It's no longer for enjoyment. These people make it a job. I happily quit playing online vs games
@shaney645
11 ай бұрын
honestly no game can make a good skill based matchmaking system after one win i play against gods and keep getting killed off rip until i get a bot lobby
@kameronwak
11 ай бұрын
Literally, I think public should just be randomized matchmaking while ranked should be skill based
@Xumbie
7 ай бұрын
Exactly and the sweats were people to admire in a way and strive to become better. The majority of the player base was usually lowkey and actually enjoying the game just to enjoy it. Living life and shit not thinking about taking advantage of everything to make a career just to milk out all money to be made. There was still the occasional goofball toxic lil kid or obnoxious twat but the vibe was still there
@I--benn--I
7 ай бұрын
That's because that's the point. These MM systems aren't there to give you a balanced experience. They're there to get the max amount of playtime out of you by feeding you that good lobby every now and then so you'll look forward to that match which makes you play more. Most of these games don't use SBMM they use EOMM (Engagement Optimized Match Making) and it's an extremely scummy and manipulative system made to make the most amount of money.
@rrr13455
6 ай бұрын
So, you just want to be the 'god' but without effort? How about not playing competitive games?
@Punkninja
6 ай бұрын
As someone in the cod creator community with friends who do the same thing, we've got people who think being good at a game is how you keep an audience (it's not). Messing around and having fun is what makes a game fun.
@keithconnell8460
6 ай бұрын
Some of the most fun I've ever had online was back in the day when we started a BFBC2 clan. The comradery was amazing. We had some stone-cold killers in our clan but about half the clan was just average players like me who wanted to have fun. Maybe I should say it was the best of times and the worst of times. We joined the online leader boards and played competitive matches and that just absolutely BRUTAL. No fun at all because half those clans are hand-picked, and the other half were cheating. I learned what lag-switching was in those days.
@Punkninja
6 ай бұрын
@@keithconnell8460 unfortunately people stop having fun to min max a game. It's the culture around the game where If your not performing at your best then why play at all. Cod and Val have it the worse with teenagers and man children, unfortunately the days of messing around with your friends is always ended by some touch less loser.
@Leon_S._Kennedy
2 ай бұрын
They ruined it so badly Now everybody spam build edit until they kill you
@cipherpac
7 ай бұрын
I think maybe the overarching force that's ruining games is the ever-increasing monetization and capitalization of the gameplay. Kameron touched on it a bit in the vid with his discussion of tourney payouts (I'd throw platform ad revenue in there as well) and the way esports/streamer culture has grown as a result, creating a growing class of gamers who are working games for a living, not playing them. I'm confident in saying that the game industry knows exactly what it's doing by starting to monetize video gaming in a way similar to how the casino industry has monetized other types of games, like poker, blackjack, and craps to foster competition and addiction amongst players, and generate profits for their owners. I don't, however, think esports is as toxic to the general gameplay experience as streaming is, because esports players' earning potential is usually limited to investing time in playing ranked modes and training to play against other players of a similar skill level. Streamers' earning potential is based on how many viewers they can draw in with their personality and by racking up crazy gameplays. Whereas esports is regulated to some degree and focused more on actually becoming good at the game, streamers often have as much (maybe more) incentive to cheese, smurf, hack, and reverse boost in pubs as they do to actually get good at the games. This often ruins the experience for the players in their lobbies, and inspires copycats to try to sweat or cheat in pubs to be more like their favorite streamer.
@damond2803
7 ай бұрын
KZitem put your video in my feed and I'm glad I clicked on it. Good content bro. Subscribed.
@danielmcgrath680
6 ай бұрын
What a terrible argument. 'People want to get good to stream' No, people want to get good because being good is fun, for most, winning is fun. Games have always been dominated by metas and sweaty. Bo2 was dominated by M8 and MSMC, Fifa 14 (i never played NBA) everyone had similar players (Ibarbo, Doumbia). I used to RAGE because of the sweats in fifa 18. People get better faster now due to the ease of information. It has nothing to do with wanting to stream, its rewarding to be better at something you put time into. I say this as someone who isnt particularly good or sweaty at any games, youre just flat out wrong.
@GrimGianni
9 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Multiplayer games are mostly garbage now, because of streamers and Esports minded players. It used to be about making memories with the Homies, now if you try to chill, you're likely to get cussed out by some scrub who lives in his momma's house, who has gotten way too used to insulting people and not getting punched in the face. It used to be about meeting people of similar interest who you could vibe with while enjoying the world of gaming, now you run into garbage personalities with no moral compass whatsoever ie liars, cheaters, toxically hateful people who have zero self control over their emotions, who act as if the game is real life, instead of just a catalyst to chill with your homies and have fun. It's sad and pathetic. Along with this you have gaming companies who promote cheaters, and liars as the pinnacle of what gamers should strive to be. Gamers lack any real identity anymore outside of either being good, or trash at a game, many deriving their self worth from a leaderboard they betrayed any moral compass they once had to be at the top of, only to not matter in 3-5 yrs because someone better at lying and cheating made them insignificant lol it's sad and frustratingly pathetic. All these things combined have ruined gaming.
@slaydog5102
6 ай бұрын
Idk what timeline you lived in but there have always been scrubs yelling at you over the mic
@misterboxhead3045
6 ай бұрын
I not reading all that honestly
@reesevendetta
6 ай бұрын
It’s been like that since the cod Xbox 360 days
@keithconnell8460
6 ай бұрын
@RadioactiveDinosaur I tend to agree with the original posters comments, but yeah, they've always been around. When we played BFBC2 back in the day we kinda thought of ourselves as the mature gamers because of all of the garbage you would get when stepped into a COD lobby. COD has always been notoriously bad, but now I think it's in all FPS. It's our current culture. No one values hard work, honesty, humility. Lobbies are generally just a place to troll people and everyone now is a shit talker because they see everyone they idolize on t.v. doing it. I guess they feel like that is proper behavior.
@OhNo0o0
5 ай бұрын
Why is bro yapping about liars and cheaters? Sure you get hackers which are annoying af, especially in older game severs. But most people that piss you off are just toxic tryhards which aren't anything new. People are only getting pissed because they can't win against other players that put in a bunch of time into a game. It is what it is. Once you start playing less and decide to hop into a multiplayer game you realize than you can't compete, which is frustrating yeah, but there's always been a competitive aspect to pvp games. If you wanna chill you could just play single player or co-op games and even those can get frustrating. Just depends on the type of game you play. I mean you can get completely different experiences from games like animal crossing, dark souls, cod, and fucken mario party. Just depends on what you're tryna do. Most ppl want to win, so shit can sour quick. At the end of the day, you decide what you wanna play or if you wanna keep playing.
@evo271
7 ай бұрын
The problem is that this obsession to winning with any price brings a lot of cheaters, and while you try to do your best in a racing game let's say, someone just bullies you, because he can't deal with defeat in a virtual space. And that is just sad.
@GhostlyKudu2
6 ай бұрын
Had this exact problem in Hot Wheel Unleashed😂 not even Forza or GT nah… Hot Wheels. Haven’t played online since
@keithconnell8460
6 ай бұрын
The cheating has gotten completely out of hand. COD is almost unplayable.
@sabalmal1288
6 ай бұрын
Glad I stumbled across this. Im an old school gamer and this relativley new age of esports/twitch streamers has ruined a few games for me as of late. Thanks for speaking this truth that most wouldnt dare to touch. Subbed good sir
@shaney645
11 ай бұрын
8:30 im so glad u used the faze sway tweet honestly that resenates with me
@kameronwak
11 ай бұрын
Same bro, that man was spitting😤
@SenseiJay
11 ай бұрын
I don’t even think I have fun playing Valorant anymore lowkey. After hitting Diamond I lost all reasons to continue trying to get to immortal if it’s just sweats
@kameronwak
11 ай бұрын
That game is a whole different level of sweat in ranked ngl😭
@bruhmode82
Ай бұрын
I don't give a shit, if someone plays a multiplayer game 8 hours a day and acts like it is their hole life, I will tell them to go take a shower.
@mariohernandez6651
11 ай бұрын
Fighting games are the only thing keeping competitive gaming alive. Where every fps game is a sweat fest with everyone trying to win instead of having fun, fighting games allow you to do both and in a 1v1 instead of a team effort. If I’m playing a fighting game, I can choose to play with a friend or hop into a casual match just to kick back with someone who wants to do the same or I can hop into a competitive match and play to win with someone who also wants to play to win
@kameronwak
11 ай бұрын
Exactly, fighting games like SF6 are really keeping comp gaming alive and it sick to see🙌🏾
@BboyVReck
7 ай бұрын
Sim racing kept competition alive too. It's even better when Max Verstappen competing in esport sim racing and still gap everyone by 5 sec
@atsantiii
7 ай бұрын
In all honestly i think most games now should just aim to making a good rank systems in their game to filter out the try hards from the casual players. What I mean by this is that if you really want to try at a game and be the best because of the potential to earn money then rank play should be that avenue to guide those players to that direction so they can see where they stand and where to improve where as casual play should just be for fun, but that comes at the expense at actually making your game fun then a cash grab.
@madjackgamingandfitness498
6 ай бұрын
This started happening long before fortnite. Streamers turned wow into a bunch of mouth breathing idiots when it came to progression and pvp. It broke up guilds because everyone had to be top everyone needs to be on the streamer server. Turning those servers toxic.
@xMontorix
6 ай бұрын
That’s why now at the age of 29 I’m pretty much done with live service. I know for a fact I’m always top tier on single player games. But facing all of these teenagers with nothing but time on their hands 24/7 I can’t even enjoy the game let alone learn.
@malago0
6 ай бұрын
You’re basically saying competition kills games. Gaming is about competition. You just sound mad that you aren’t the meta.
@malago0
6 ай бұрын
Like “you know openings for chess! NO FAIR!”
@brennyfb
11 ай бұрын
I can agree streaming and esports ruining gaming but sweats were sweats before all that. I’m not even good at video games but when I play Smash and Fortnite I’m a tryhard because winning is fun and losing sucks. If I want to chill and game I’m not going to play something competitive.
@kameronwak
11 ай бұрын
Facts, sweats been around for a fat min😭
@SlicesUSA
7 ай бұрын
Bro I’m 38 & I remember when the new Mortal Kombat arcade games dropped… Asian kids would be on it first day whooping people tf out knowing all the combos & finishers w/o a magazine to tell them the commands. Wtf!😭
@noobmaster69426
3 ай бұрын
I agree. Sweats are trash people who have no life and they spam just for the sake of ruining the game. For example, Ninja claims to be making family friendly entertainment when in reality, he believes overpowered and fun weapons are for 5 yr olds. This proves he is a hypocrite who hates fun and wants to ruin the game. I hope he gets cancelled
@siyacool2438
2 ай бұрын
u are so depressed its FUNNY, FIRST of all YOU are talking about fortnite a GAME THAT IS COMPLELETLY COMPETITIVE those kids u are talking about know this DO U? Secondly these WEAPONS u speak of are CREATED and DEVELOPED by game devs HOW is ninja using these SAID weapons killing the GAME. GO COMPLAIN to these games and not the streamers WOW hypocrite is INSANE did he ever tell not to use these guns? NO, So use them and gain the actually skill to kill him within the game and STOP COMPLAINING
@XercesBlues
5 ай бұрын
Dude was contradicting himself the whole video, this shit dont make a lick of sense. This just sounds like you/the hypothetical people ur talking about really care about winning but also dont wanna try. Just wanna win but dont like that other people ALSO wanna win and so put in effort. Idk, pick a lane, if you're competitively minded then go for it, enjoy pitting yourself against other people and putting in effort to improve, more power to ya. But if u "just want to play for fun" might be worth examining why most of ur arguments centre around how hard it is for you to win or not. Add to that, the fact that the portion of players that are that competitive about any one game is usually a smaller subsection, which is bigger or smaller based on how competitive the game is (e.g. fighting game or MOBA players are more likely to be competitive than someone playing mario party because they have different target audiences). FPS game are the OG trash talk and flame people for being worse than you games, they just have that demographic and have had it from years ago, back in old counter strike, COD etc. This whole video got a pretty narrow line of sight with how recent you make all of this stuff sound.
@BlessedShott
5 ай бұрын
Weirdo wrote a whole novel😂😂
@gopozgaming4495
5 ай бұрын
Woah, you didn't play call of duty everyday, every lobby I'm playing is now like a competitive lobby and still continue to losing... So yeah... Don't tell skill issues or just "Try to play better". Let me tell you something, you need to have the motivation, the time and the budget. When you face a tryhard, you don't have the motivation to continue to play the same game.
@Hobonomous
10 ай бұрын
A good video and honestly its a fresh take, But as stated in this comment section sweats have been around for a long time and it won’t go away anytime soon. That being said streamers, esports, and pro players have a habit of drawing in and escalating the rate of which this happens.
@JayM928
2 ай бұрын
Everything is sweaty now. I play Roblox games with my son sometimes, and we encounter sweaties in EVERY GAME. I remember playing some CoD like game and thinking: “well, it’s Roblox, so at least it will be super casual and just fun…” Shows how damn ignorant I was.
@delusion_644
6 ай бұрын
He literally contradicts himself. He complains about sweats smurfing on him in fall guys, then complains about skill-based matchmaking punishing good players by forcing them all into the same lobbies. BROTHER, YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH. CHOOSE ONE.
@vgamedude12
6 ай бұрын
Yep. Literally went from talking about how pros ruined games to using a tweet from a pro and copying his complaint on sbmm. Absolute nonsense.
@keyboardfromelbaf6138
5 ай бұрын
Bro wants to be put into a lobby where he's the best player. This entire argument boils down to "wahhh why won't you let me win". Probably gloats and laughs when winning and stomping on players worse than him but when the actual good players show up bro starts bitching and claiming it's unfair.
@keanusablan3607
11 ай бұрын
For me I see some smaller creators who just wanna build their contents but it’s hard when ppl compare them to bigger creators like ninja or SypherPK.
@joedatius
12 күн бұрын
complaining about people who put effort into ANYTHING because you don't have that ability just makes you a loser. do you go to a pickup basketball game and freak out because dudes are actually trying to win? if you are that casual then why do you get butthurt when you lose? you're just as much as a tryhard here but the only difference is that you're bad at it.
@nippypoy
6 ай бұрын
this was 10 minutes of straight yapping. u contradicted urself multiple times
@BlessedShott
5 ай бұрын
Sound like this video got your attention 😂
@MikeF93
9 ай бұрын
SBMM took the fun out for a lot of games i play to be honest.
@faithuncompromised4804
6 ай бұрын
The recent wave of overly competitive gamers is why I don't play online games anymore. It's hard to have fun when everyone you're playing with takes the game too seriously.
@AZIZ_50598
6 ай бұрын
Yeah i agree with you, the point of games is to have fun but those try harder ruined everything
@MarcoPenuela99PT17
5 ай бұрын
so does he want the games not to be sweaty or does he want not to reward bad players??
@Palatinus-Z
5 ай бұрын
Rewarding bad players is a consequence of gamers being tryhards, otherwise you lose the casuals.
@krash8536
5 ай бұрын
ur not getting his point its people like you why game are the way they are
@nuckster3202
5 ай бұрын
The guy contradicts himself all over the place...
@Doggo_is_sus
4 ай бұрын
He said the first one led to the second one. So if we automatically eliminate skill based matchmaking and sweating from equation , there will be no reason to reward bad players.
@zanderthetoad8024
5 ай бұрын
bro this got me huh-ing
@EZeast1
6 ай бұрын
Being 37 gaming has always been competitive, i remember Halo 2 everyone was what people call "sweaty." When you wanted to play casual you would do a lanparty with friends ordering food and doing an all nighter or having some drinks. Now gaming is so popular that casals have taken over in thw gaming community. The main problem with streamers is most of them are cheating with micros and those crozes controller or whatever it is called. They also have a lot of pull on how games are made as well to meet their demands and not what most gamers want.
@KING-O-SAURUSREX
6 ай бұрын
I agree except for the last part, hard to prove majority of thousands of people are cheating. I think most are genuinely good. And it’s unfortunate they have so much pull on the balance of competitive gaming, but that’s mostly on the devs for choosing to cater to 1% of gamers.
@BingeymanIG
Ай бұрын
It’s bad because no one builds their own style of play. It’s all using broken/exploited tactics to give themselves advantages or using the best player in the world’s strategy with no idea how to build your own.
@joedatius
12 күн бұрын
yes thats literally how all forms of competition work.
@BingeymanIG
12 күн бұрын
@@joedatius in a lot of forms of competition it’s valid to build your own strategy
@osiris7945
8 ай бұрын
I’ve been realizing about this since 2018. and the older I become, the less I crave for sweats, competitive, clout-chasing type of thing at the expense of fun & relaxing experience. now I’m glad games like zero dawn, death stranding any kind of souls game gave a fresh breath in the midst of this chaos where I don’t have to think about achievement, microtransactions, p2w games that will take a toll on you the more you play them.
@seannapier2298
Ай бұрын
The real problem with metas in gaming is that they ruin creativity until a new meta is found then everyone moves to that.
@nukeplayer2847
Ай бұрын
Its kinda a gamedev issue. You want as much playstyles as possible to be viable in order for the game to be fun
@joedatius
12 күн бұрын
thats not how meta works. ALL games have a meta and nothing is stopping you from being creative aside from your own ego about winning.
@JustFeral
6 ай бұрын
As a dude in his 30s, nothing has changed. People are just bitches now. Always an excuse for why they're trash at a game.
@br1anwo0d
6 ай бұрын
real
@littlechrisgames4648
6 ай бұрын
thought you ate bro ? you’re 30 and complaining about ppl not being good at video games get good at getting a job i’m dog shit at games now but i’m jus having fun smell your seat and get out of your moms basement
@-fv
5 ай бұрын
@@littlechrisgames4648 you are so mad LOL
@KaiserNightcoreMusic
5 ай бұрын
Some games i'm good while plenty of others i'm trash and that is fine. i just don't plan spending 3k+ hours on a single game to "git gud" on a non-profitable activity (for like 99% of people) to pat myself in the back and feel i'm worth something.
@Dukenukem323
9 ай бұрын
Yes, i absolutely think Streamers/pros destroyed casual online gaming and I will die on this hill. Just like you said as soon as people started to realize how much money you could make from gaming mfs started sweating and trying to be the next Top Streamer and its not even a guarantee that they'll be successful. Now people focus on being the "Best Player in the Lobby" then just having fun and bullshit around.
@extremedaemon
3 ай бұрын
Twitch and KZitem = death of any gaming. Everything comes down to heavy competitive sweats just for clicks.
@siyacool2438
2 ай бұрын
Explain this argument of urs ITS a FACT that u went to YT OR TWITCH to even discover these games in the first place so... unless u are an idiot u knew these games would be competitive anyhow So ur argument makes ABSOLUTE no sense whats so ever.
@DuhSlayerr
6 ай бұрын
Second half of the video completely contradicts the first half First u complained that sweats in ur casual lobby was bad, then complained that sweats getting matched with sweats in sbm is bad and everyone shud be matched with everyone
@ll358
6 ай бұрын
Made a whole video all because he sucks at games
@thatguy8841
6 ай бұрын
Fr
@__thebadger
2 ай бұрын
How he described fall guys was also the exact problem with fortnite. It was so much fun in the beginning because it was a new styled psudo FPS where no one knew how to play. It was fun when a point blank gun fight took 45 seconds to get 1 or 2 elims. Now a dude will wipe you out in 5 seconds, and his TTV name pops up and shows that he has 13 kills before the final 25. The whole game has changed so much.
@joedatius
12 күн бұрын
its fun seeing kids realize the reality of competitive games. sorry to tell you this but this is how it is in ALL games where you go up against another person.
@__thebadger
12 күн бұрын
@@joedatius I grew up with mw2-bo2 and was very good when playing them as I was in middle school and could play a lot. Being "too good" would get the entire lobby shitting on you and calling you a no life to the point where it wasn't as fun. The landscape changed when people started getting millions of dollars for being good at video games. It certainly was not like this 15 years ago.
@joedatius
12 күн бұрын
@@__thebadger okay so you're watching a video about dudes shitting on people for being good at the game.. and you somehow cant see how that isn't the same thing as before but now.. you can maybe make money off of it...
@__thebadger
12 күн бұрын
@joedatius I never said I don't understand the reason why. I get why there is such an uptick in tryhards in the game. I'm saying that it makes the gaming experience much less fun for casuals. When I was in a bo1 lobby and could clearly tell that I was better than everyone, I would switch to trying to hit trickshots, ballistic knives, or tomahawk kills instead of running around with a suppressed galil to go 38-3 in a domination game. There was no incentive to be incredibly good in 2010. Now, there are a lot of incentives to shitting on everyone in every lobby that you're in. I get why. It just makes gaming less fun for the casual.
@Vampp2048
5 ай бұрын
4:41 that fight was choreographed lol
@Sparxy
6 ай бұрын
So if you get a sweaty player in your game its bad, but if the same sweaty player is matched with other sweaty players its bad too? This whole video doesnt make sense.
@vgamedude12
6 ай бұрын
Yep. Video is all over the place and is an incoherent mess.
@kevernaut
2 ай бұрын
I feel like the only time I hear people complaining about skill base match making are the sweats, streamers (who want clips) and the pros. Most reg players get home, play a couple matches and just want to play people who are around their level.
@Beezle66
7 ай бұрын
I gave up on being good at games when me and my wife had a kid 2 years ago. Overwatch and apex were my main games and i wasnt amazing or anything, but higher than average for being almost 30years old lol. But once my kid came and games got moved to once, MAYBE twice a week for a few hours plus working full-time on top of that.. i just had to come to terms that being bad is my new norm. Its not the end of the world, but it does suck feeling like i cant win at anything 😂
@rrr13455
6 ай бұрын
Most sane comment here, people want what? Play using 1% of their brain no effort and have 4-6 kdr on fps games? If you want to kill bots play offline, if you want to play online without dealing with a tryhard just play games that are not competitive...
@systemhalodark
6 ай бұрын
Virgin 202X Streamer vs Chad 2010 Trolling montage
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