T1 baited everyone to counter guma and keria to hide the fact that zeus was the monster they released in the field.
@salvadormunoz1845
2 ай бұрын
exactly
@matthewchan1441
2 ай бұрын
thats what makes t1 so hard to draft against. it's impossible to draft gap t1's bot lane. they literally play everything XD
@johnpauljonesisabadass8134
Ай бұрын
@matthewchan1441 that means you just ignore and target ban zeus and oner. Faker and botlane can play anything, why ban against them?
@C0astDelta
Ай бұрын
@@johnpauljonesisabadass8134 Doing so allows Mid and Bot to run free which are the main carry roles. Even if Zeus is behind bro can ass pull some insane plays. Oner though if banned against does struggles from my understanding.
@Izanawi
Ай бұрын
@@C0astDeltaThe fact that this shit is true idk how Zeus consistently ass pulls a solo kill after being killed 3 times
@DuongNguyen-yr5es
2 ай бұрын
i watched caedrel back then and he talked about the world meta shift too. t1 is so good at creating their own style, like when they shown 2adc bot to counter luci+nami and zeri+ lulu. i hope they cook something this year too
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
T1 have always been creative when it comes to draft! 2023 in particular was special because people kept on saying how t1 created the range support meta. But it was actually very different compared to the lpl teams. Theirs was moreso on play making!!
@hanscaniagochan8448
2 ай бұрын
@@mvldayos I'm not really familiar with the term but does wbg lux doesn't count as range support ?
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
@@hanscaniagochan8448 Lux is a range support! If you have a time stamp I can provide clarification
@ChoB1den
2 ай бұрын
@@mvldayoshonestly i think t1's meta is a product of their overall dominance. If they arent ahead of the curve their aggressive botlane style becomes very risky and relyant on leads. Wich they get most of the time, bcs they are just better at laneing then 99% of other teams atm. This is why i think other teams just shouldnt blindly copy t1. Scaling is still one of the best ways to achieve a wincon in draft. Ofc u need a draft that can also survive early, but overall scaling is very op. There are actually so many more picks that are good in pro, that remain almost completely unpicked. Teams lack creativity and blindly copy what the good teams are doing...
@LOLzum101
Ай бұрын
T1 weren't the first to counter with two adc
@eryalmario5299
2 ай бұрын
T1 was the only team that ran yone top when other teams were running yone mid lane
@jlgg369
2 ай бұрын
In fact, only Zeus can counter Aatrox with Yone. There is an analysis about this match up and mostly Aatrox has the favor (slighly more than 50% win rate on Challenger, for any rank below is Aatrox's favor) Which require extreme high level skill that on ranked game, only Challenger player can do it. But Zeus can make that happen constantly on Worlds. He is the best Top lanner 2023 without any doubt.
@SeikiRikodou
2 ай бұрын
I find it funny that the other teams genuinely tried T1's meta but due to the lack of experience and ideas how to play the comps they fail miserably XD
@jlgg369
2 ай бұрын
All they can do is guess the T1's meta by looking at the ban/pick. In Worlds 2023, blue side have better win rate, T1 lose every coin toss. LNG thought T1 prioritise duo marksman bot lane, saw Senna then picked Blitcrank (both good for either marksman support or tahm kench) But T1 last pick Nilah. The worst thing is, NO TEAM ARE GIVING T1 blue side, so Keria or Zeus can last pick every game. Just a nightmare for them lol
@markangelobalquero7342
2 ай бұрын
@@jlgg369T1 is the only team has highest winrate in redside btw hahaha
@ChoB1den
2 ай бұрын
@mvldayos honestly i think t1's meta is a product of their overall dominance. If they arent ahead of the curve their aggressive botlane style becomes very risky and relyant on leads. Wich they get most of the time, bcs they are just better at laneing then 99% of other teams atm. This is why i think other teams just shouldnt blindly copy t1. Scaling is still one of the best ways to achieve a wincon in draft. Ofc u need a draft that can also survive early, but overall scaling is very op. There are actually so many more picks that are good in pro, that remain almost completely unpicked. Teams lack creativity and blindly copy what the good teams are doing...
@ziyou2063
Ай бұрын
@@jlgg369 and even JDG won toin coss and chose red side for their first game 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jlgg369
Ай бұрын
@@ziyou2063 They were trying to deal with T1's double counter red side(keria and Zeus). But they didn't survive that.
@birdsarentrealbro
2 ай бұрын
Ignoring??? No sir, they built the meta for the tournament. They were in control the whole time, it was amazing to watch.
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
I agree!! At the start I said that initially t1 tried to copy other teams but after they struggled they did their own style. In quarters the Chinese teams tried to copy and creat their own bot lane range meta but it was still inferior to t1’s!
@birdsarentrealbro
2 ай бұрын
@@mvldayos it was absolutely incredible what they did. Defining the meta to start off, and then breaking it anyway to play weird stuff.
@gabsterrivera5674
2 ай бұрын
I think Caedrel summed it up well: T1 found a counter for the Worlds meta. The approach was either to go deeper in that same meta or just arrive at a full counter for that meta, in which case we haven't exactly arrived at a full circle yet, but a circle will eventually form in this perspective
@addy405
2 ай бұрын
No sir r u a noob from 19 hundreds 40 plus talking like that 😂
@ChoB1den
2 ай бұрын
@mvldayos honestly i think t1's meta is a product of their overall dominance. If they arent ahead of the curve their aggressive botlane style becomes very risky and relyant on leads. Wich they get most of the time, bcs they are just better at laneing then 99% of other teams atm. This is why i think other teams just shouldnt blindly copy t1. Scaling is still one of the best ways to achieve a wincon in draft. Ofc u need a draft that can also survive early, but overall scaling is very op. There are actually so many more picks that are good in pro, that remain almost completely unpicked. Teams lack creativity and blindly copy what the good teams are doing...
@exekieltura1784
2 ай бұрын
At first I said that this worlds is not for T1 since the bot meta revolves around XAYAH and KAI'SA and then T1 changed it!
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s truly impressive. It’s a measure of trust towards keria and everyone on t1 to see the world playing melee supp and xayah kaisa then going “this is wrong I’ll play my own way”
@ahkilleuskosmos6836
2 ай бұрын
The funny thing is that drafting for hard bot prio and using Guma and Keria to just mechanically beat down their opponents was T1's bread and butter for the entire year (fitting considering how they ultimately won), I remember after watching a couple of the first worlds games with my friend and he went "Huh... Is it just me or is T1's usual draft a hard counter into the meta rn?"
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
Agreed! What’s even more interesting is that t1 would draft lanes like Ashe-varus and would actually get more advantage topside! The enemy jungle would come bottom because that’s what expected and oner would be invading or ganking. But guma and keria would continue to play like oner was right behind them. This meant that for the enemy team it’s like they were playing vs 2 junglers at the same time!
@phantomhearts5577
2 ай бұрын
You forgot about Zeus owning so much and faker carry when his kids are falling behind and how Oner can steal dragon / baron. Aswell as how oner and faker have synergy.
@psy_99
2 ай бұрын
@@phantomhearts5577 Those are things outside of drafting and meta reading. It's worth talking about but I think that's outside the scope of the discussion
@chriswho12345
Ай бұрын
Dwg/DK won in 2020 similarly with nuguri top 1v3 while bot lane existed and shared some pressure with canyon jg making sure things go smoothly
@lilpink6192
2 ай бұрын
Loved the analysis and outlining what gave them the edge! I've always just heard that "T1 beat/reinvented the meta in Worlds 2023 and that's why they won" but never could really grasp what they did that differently,,, but you're explanations are super clear. 8:58 was truly a “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” Sun Tzu, The Art of War moment. Worlds 2023 was absolute CINEMA for T1. I know a lot of people who thought that T1 stomping the LPL only losing 1 game to JDG made the watching experience 'boring', but frankly I think it's more impressive than anything. It gave them the confidence to pull off some of the most memorable plays in the whole tournament and showed them that they are rewarded when they play to their strengths. It made their win feel so much more deserved.
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
Yeah! I enjoyed watching this worlds a ton because of how adaptive t1 was as a team. It’s easy as a spectator but imagine having to scout or play vs them! Suddenly out of nowhere you have to think about bard. The next week jinx tk. The next week senna. The next week Ashe support. You not only had to be ready for what t1 has done but what they WILL do. Master class of adaptation in tournament
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
Yeah! I enjoyed watching this worlds a ton because of how adaptive t1 was as a team. It’s easy as a spectator but imagine having to scout or play vs them! Suddenly out of nowhere you have to think about bard. The next week jinx tk. The next week senna. The next week Ashe support. You not only had to be ready for what t1 has done but what they WILL do. Master class of adaptation in tournament
@WildRiftGameplayandTutorial
2 ай бұрын
The goal is simple. Allow bot lane to push back enemy adc and support to get plates rather than getting kills and allow Oner to roam on the top side and help Zeus get his powerspikes to take down squishy members. While Faker only has to do is babysit Oner on his jungle pathing and scale. That's why Zeus didn't pick any tank because their primary carry was Zeus and Faker who picks mostly Ori and Azir.
@doniherald7745
2 ай бұрын
Keria just too OP, he can play anything, and Gumayusi also too good.
@bentucky4324
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the highly informative and educational video. Even though months have since passed after Worlds, it’s these incredibly well versed analysis that always brings me back to that Worlds hype moments.
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
Hope you’re excited for msi!
@keroga8635
Ай бұрын
Kkoma would never think of this, unless he saw this video.
@johnpauljonesisabadass8134
Ай бұрын
what's with the kkoma slander lmaooo😂
@SamusAram
Ай бұрын
Really enjoy the meta reading and would like to see more for previous Worlds tournaments!
@panagiotisbogiatzis2221
Ай бұрын
Tom is the god of draft also in psg his drafting was amazing
@SW-xg6me
2 ай бұрын
FINALLY a vid from Coach Dayos. You're a beast, bro. Love your work
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
Ty Ty appreciate all the support
@long9961
2 ай бұрын
my goat coach dayos back at it again
@BASTYK14710
2 ай бұрын
The main problem is that every team is just copying whoever is winning, instead trying to counter it. There is a counter to every style you just have to find it🤔🤔
@nightslayer5066
2 ай бұрын
With what you said about T1 generating strong Lvl 1 and bot pressure, can you make a video in how they faltered in JDG games in that style. Im not saying they were bad there, but it can be seen that T1 had struggles in the Early game in the JDG Series. Notably the 3rd game where T1 narrowly win.
@markangelobalquero7342
2 ай бұрын
bro JDG is by far the greatest team that time and the heavy favorites to win worlds. even T1 shifted the meta is not easy to beat JDG tho. but because T1 shift meta strat made JDG not to play LPL playstyle but to adjust and to play for T1 playstyle the reason JDG faltered.
@nightslayer5066
2 ай бұрын
@@markangelobalquero7342 that is pretty doubtful, because Ruler is the best ADC in that tourney, with T1 strat literally being read by JDG. T1 faltered cause JDG read it, yet they lost not cause of the Strat. Ruler literally generated huge pressure for T1 even in Lvl1. Look at game 3, They dove T1 even though it failed, They actually read that they are losing the fight (T1 read they will lose) but they did not expect Ashe to die perhaps... Ruler knows how to fight the Aggressive Lvl1 Bot, they implemented it even...
@cryofrostrs3856
Ай бұрын
@@nightslayer5066They lost because they tried imitating T1's meta instead of using their strengths. It was clear in the entire series. Besides, even then, they were still losing individually in most of the series
@TheKevinGeee
2 ай бұрын
T1 always follows the meta against GENG then loses. At this currentl lose-streak against GENG they should just wing it.
@JY-mh8fr
2 ай бұрын
Godamn right! T1 plays incredible without relying on the meta so much. T1 plays a comp with stronger synergies. I hate it when t1 wants to match geng by playing geng style as well. Hopefully t1 play great at playoffs 14.6 seems a good fit for their playstyle
@mykellederickpalad7883
2 ай бұрын
Their draft against gen.g looks way different versus when they fight other teams. They should show the confidence they had last worlds when fighting gen.g
@keychrons7200
2 ай бұрын
Good video, I think you should also mention that in their final game at worlds vs WBG they went back to the Xayah Rakan botlane
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
I mentioned it briefly but vs wbg t1 changed their draft style again. This time locking in strong bot lane comboes 1-2 to give Zeus counter pick vs the shy. It’s very impressive because they were one of the few teams to actively prep vs each teams tendencies!
@plebbutter3811
2 ай бұрын
@@mvldayos And as caedrel's chat is always keen to remind him, it definitely worked lmao
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
@@plebbutter3811 bring back the shy!
@lirinnaufal
Ай бұрын
Never played lol and never followed the pro scene but it was interesting to see a team shape a meta single handedly.
@KomplaseChankaewrae
2 ай бұрын
i love u content brother 😍
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
Ty
@CollinTesta
2 ай бұрын
The best example of them getting information and prioritizing top and mid for early trades is LNG vs T1 in game 3 of worlds. When oner invaded sej's blue, we see that bot lane can safely trade and push their lane from jg being top side along with mid and top being able to take safe trades. This resulted in oner and faker nearly killing ahri level 3 and giving faker pressure mid while also setting Sej behind. It really was all calculated geniusly by Tom and the Players. Well deserved worlds win.
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
Have you seen my other video? I actually talk about this exactly play great eye!! kzitem.info/news/bejne/zKGQq3eFs6iKnIIsi=mWEmUI0F5OX-jQZO
@zombieprodigyz
2 ай бұрын
Ill watch it now! T1 were crazy during worlds @@mvldayos
@RC-hi5sj
2 ай бұрын
Good content I hope more will notice the channel
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
Ty Ty
@tgseetoh
2 ай бұрын
T1 didn't ignore the meta, the redefined it causing everyone else to change their gameplan and play comps that they are not used to just to follow. Similar to how FPX played in 2019 where they played whatever dark tech doinb had to confuse their opponents to make them play out of their comfort zones and move one step faster than the rest of the competition
@rylentsuha4705
Ай бұрын
such a good vid
@Zyra_Cameron
Ай бұрын
the thing is, T1 plays even the riskiest champs, thats why they can experiment and throw off other teams because they cant counter weird selections.
@pshyduc9583
10 күн бұрын
Even now, they use kalista as a support
@Airrenlol
Ай бұрын
this shit waas so good
@CorruptedDust
Ай бұрын
T1 never has to follow the meta. They are the meta
@dave1123
2 ай бұрын
If you have the best support in the world, you can create a new meta in bot lane anytime...most of their success in creating the new meta was mainly due to Keria pulling out these support picks that works for their advantage...
@Yujix-dj8xr
2 ай бұрын
Hope they are cooking something for playoffs 😬
@conneryechout7143
Ай бұрын
4:50 "cheems"
@grozaleonard
Ай бұрын
Mark my words, if someone manages to kick out GenG out of MSI, T1 are bringing it home
@babyboomer3388
2 ай бұрын
The real reason is everyone on T1 (especially Guma/Keria) has a very large champ pool, even later in the playoffs when other LPL teams start to adapt their draft. BLG vs WBG for example, every time they play something like Bard or Ashe it’s just a shitshow
@skywalkerjohn8965
Ай бұрын
Everything is meta if you are goodenough
@CanyoufeelitnowMrKrabzz
2 ай бұрын
This is like ASMR 😅
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
Good thing or bad thing! Haha
@gordonvincent29
2 ай бұрын
Good video
@hiw3128
2 ай бұрын
Essentially they couldnt play the meta so they changed the meta
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
I think a big part of it too was that they thought the meta didn’t make sense! In the vid there was a translation of Keira’s thoughts where he said that he was confused why people were picking melee supports. That he wouldn’t want to play melee vs the top side meta
@klumzyee
2 ай бұрын
well yes and no, because by definition this is a superior meta
@tristan2338
2 ай бұрын
Think corku will be T1 again as the mid meta pushes anything melee ranged
@princedirt87
Ай бұрын
HOW T1 won WORLDS 1. Recruit Keria 2. Let him cook.
@alexalvarado2048
2 ай бұрын
This is such a great vid explainign how T1 shifted de meta completly, really deserves a like and subscibe. I recomend you to watch "Pirámides al 13.19" by Cabramaravilla, he's an spanish analyst and that video is an indept view of how world's meta evolved from playin all the way to finals, youtube automatic subtitles aren't great, but they help to understand.
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
I just watched! I was very impressed by his editing, knowledge, and story telling. I think English speakers are missing content creators like that. I will do my best to fill that gap!
@tarantulatar1410
2 ай бұрын
blud is yapping nonsense
@tristan2338
2 ай бұрын
Do you think there will be a death of the adc bot role?
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
I think adc will remain strong! One time mages bot were op and I think the community didn’t like it so riot will prob make sure it doesn’t happen again
@enzolags
2 ай бұрын
I like this video
@mvldayos
2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@Karenmarquesf
2 ай бұрын
T1 was the meta
@qwacker9596
2 ай бұрын
dayos got that skibidi rizz
@user-pg4cm6ep8n
2 ай бұрын
sadly this genius idea of range supp will be shut down by a stupid champ called smolder
@ziyou2063
2 ай бұрын
and glad to see significant nerf in patch 14.6 and the smolder couldn't used in pro match anymore.
@atehvir800
2 ай бұрын
They have bans lol
@user-pg4cm6ep8n
2 ай бұрын
@@atehvir800 then u just wasting bans and constant ban on smolder doesn't look good on mainstage
@papadwarf3953
2 ай бұрын
@@user-pg4cm6ep8n if a champ is op why not?
@R0ronoaZor0
2 ай бұрын
And now their draft is shit
@frasierjoseph
2 ай бұрын
can you not put the words on the screen for what you are just going to say? It's not necessary as the pictures and your commentary are good enough.
@jorgam1
2 ай бұрын
Hey man, the content is pretty good but the editing is the worst i've seen on youtube in a long time. The actual information (like the picks, or what keria is saying about a certain pick) flashes on the screen for 1 second, but then there's long takes of the exact thing you're saying in the middle of the page and random illustrations. It also has a very static cutting rhytm. I understand it's easy to edit like this but it makes for a borderline unwatchable video, which is a shame cause the stuff you're saying is very interesting. Please re-consider editing your own stuff, or change styles to something more substantial.
@valiboss2012
2 ай бұрын
Yeah still is GenG>T1>LPL>GenG kekw , I’m a huge T1 fan but this is the reality at least in my opinion they can win 2024 also if is not GenG in finals kekw
@alvinlim9142
Ай бұрын
Im a GenG fan but Ksante merchant just to win? I don't think they're the best team in LCK. Scared of Vayne LOL
@Frstypwngaming
Ай бұрын
Nah faker really just scared all of China with the "All Roads Lead To Me" and "I've never lost to an LPL team at world's and I won't start now"
@onlybier9821
2 ай бұрын
cringe T1 glazer
@papadwarf3953
2 ай бұрын
they gapped the entire lpl lol what you mean
@RobloxLOL415
2 ай бұрын
Imagine if WBG banned aatrox every game would've been GG
@stormace343
2 ай бұрын
all you need to do was ban aatrox, rell and rumble. rito kept azir and orianna in meta cos faker can only play those and ahri. rito wants t1 to win worlds. cos lck wievers are dropping its all about money boys. there is no world t1 wins against that lng nor jdg
@jorgelinares1944
2 ай бұрын
seethe and cope
@Chris-ih4hj
2 ай бұрын
This video is bullsht
@andylopez7507
2 ай бұрын
Cry about it
@Spryzing
2 ай бұрын
Not going to take away what T1 has done but If Gen G Hadnt choked against Blg it could've been very different
@aznfox3567
2 ай бұрын
GenG only good at LCK, T1 is the only true international team vs 3 chinese powerhouse
@papadwarf3953
2 ай бұрын
but they did tho. If we go by ifs and maybes then t1 should be 6-7 times world champion by now
@clp4869
Ай бұрын
they put blg in game 5 but I dont think 2023 Geng can win against Lng or Wbg either, t1 style is just good against these 2 teams which makes their worlds run easier
@ClickHere4Naruto
Ай бұрын
They didnt ignore the meta and played their style. Their style happened to be a big part of the meta, at least as far as it was discovered.
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