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@jamesabestos2800
3 жыл бұрын
Kruat, please do central asia? Like the khanate and energy disputes. It will probably be like a multi-part series so I suggest to not think about it just wait on it
@stevankovacevic2691
3 жыл бұрын
No
@cyumeniaroy1623
3 жыл бұрын
Why do you hate Indians?
@stevankovacevic2691
3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a history of the Balkans?
@PlayBoiMur
3 жыл бұрын
@@woodchuck003 what???
@leirex_1
3 жыл бұрын
>Barges into government >noticeably improves life for lower class without ruining the upper class >restores political and social stability >refuses to capitalize on his success >leaves
@1000eau
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely based sigma chad
@adrianmartin7344
3 жыл бұрын
> Profit
@aturchomicz821
3 жыл бұрын
Why must there be an Upper Class, they do litearlly nothing🤔
@peterwang5660
3 жыл бұрын
@@aturchomicz821 well the idea is that they contributed a lot to earn the right to be decadent parasites, but it kind of falls apart when they just pass on the privilege to their kids.
@Torus2112
3 жыл бұрын
@@aturchomicz821 All human societies are hierarchical anyone who says different is just upset that they aren't top lobster.
@unofficial_computer
3 жыл бұрын
Ancient Greece cared more about Family than the whole Fast and Furious series combined.
@romeersharma2488
3 жыл бұрын
Oof
@josephhernandez9531
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@DracoMagnius
3 жыл бұрын
Turns out Vin Disel's character was Greek this whole time.
@booperdooperproductions2545
3 жыл бұрын
vin dieselios
@yanniskarageorgiou3573
3 жыл бұрын
I guess mine is an outlier lol
@Kraut_the_Parrot
3 жыл бұрын
This is my first attempt to try to summarize what would usually be a 4 hour series, into under 20 minutes. I hope it worked, and that the video is still good enough according to the standard of quality that you may expect.
@chinggiskhan6678
3 жыл бұрын
The Spartans were great innovators, they managed to create a currency that was used for warfare and *moans* Edit: I shall now remove myself from existence
@americannightmare425
3 жыл бұрын
This video is really cool, thank you
@eX1st4132
3 жыл бұрын
it's still quite good. Though i reckon much of your core audience would watch anything you made, but don't let that discourage you, just make good videos, long or short.
@lubu2960
3 жыл бұрын
Cool video
@nathanieldanga4982
3 жыл бұрын
I do usually like your more in depth reading into history, but this is a nice quick video. I think you could find an equilibrium in the future of your hour long series’ and short summations of history. Which ever way you go, you better believe I’ll be here for it. Great stuff!!
@CivilWarWeekByWeek
3 жыл бұрын
I think Athens went through more phases than the average teenager
@ihazplawe2503
3 жыл бұрын
Athens also has more debt than the average teenager too
@holey5065
3 жыл бұрын
Lol yes
@Tankliker
3 жыл бұрын
@@ihazplawe2503 not if you are a US student
@delusionalfusional8409
3 жыл бұрын
No mom, democracy isn’t a “phase” it’s who I am!
@romeersharma2488
3 жыл бұрын
@@delusionalfusional8409 no mom, Draco's authoritarian regime isn't a phase it's who I am!
@stalwort1692
3 жыл бұрын
>Turkey gets a three-part series >Greece gets 17 minutes Greece: M A L A K A
@Chorophilax
3 жыл бұрын
@@Makky265 🐂🐂🐂🐂🐂🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
@sankarsah
3 жыл бұрын
Forget that, look at how much PR a video on China, Russia or US gets vs the PR South Korea, Japan or India gets.
@starsinthesky593
3 жыл бұрын
@@sankarsah do u have an answer because I don't know
@user-nq3mx8ot1g
3 жыл бұрын
No one cares
@user-nq3mx8ot1g
3 жыл бұрын
Literally no one
@BadDayLp
3 жыл бұрын
Politicans: It cant hurt when i have direct control over that The legendary Solon: Yeah mate, lets trash the old system, improve it and then go on an adventure!
@bastiangalaz4580
3 жыл бұрын
Virgin Solon vs Chad Lycurgus: Change everything when I come back. * suicides *
@DarkKinghtrulz
3 жыл бұрын
@@irasingh2498 He speaks in Hindhi which unfortunately I dont know.
@sirllamaiii9708
3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad he's getting sponsors, one of the most deserving channels of it
@ddobrevs
3 жыл бұрын
And he puts the sponsor in time stamps. He really deserves the money.
@muzamilqwerty5453
3 жыл бұрын
He's gay
@sirllamaiii9708
3 жыл бұрын
@@muzamilqwerty5453 oh hell yeah 😳
@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368
3 жыл бұрын
Whenever humans cooperate, they transcend to another level of civ.
@Moribus_Artibus
3 жыл бұрын
Unity is victory - Syrus
@doctormatthattan
3 жыл бұрын
Only Kraut would say that a short video is 18 minutes.
@BadDayLp
3 жыл бұрын
Other people: Today we have an extra long special video! 10:01 Kraut: Video short, Kraut sad
@BeaverChainsaw
3 жыл бұрын
Hey remember when a short twenty 20 mjnute episode used to turn into a 3 hour long epic, 3 episodes long?
@nowhereman6019
3 жыл бұрын
Only weaklings would say that a 2 hour long video essay is "long".
@zax1998LU
3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it was 18mins tbh.
@oscardelafuente8649
3 жыл бұрын
@@zax1998LU y tho?
@virginia6895
3 жыл бұрын
Not a 6 hours video on why Luxemburg caused the fall of comunism? Cringe
@jamesabestos2800
3 жыл бұрын
Time to make a 91 year livestream to my death. Based
@pablo2448
3 жыл бұрын
Wait, wasn't the Marshall Islands that did It?
@emilhuseynov6121
3 жыл бұрын
@@pablo2448 dude you’re mixing it with Lichtenstein they are the true masters of the world
@pablo2448
3 жыл бұрын
@@emilhuseynov6121 These micronations are always up to something...
@bastiangalaz4580
3 жыл бұрын
@@pablo2448 One day they will conferederate into a microempire.
@chinggiskhan6678
3 жыл бұрын
We all know that Sparta used those metal rods for more than just warfare and currency 😏😏😏
@Kraut_the_Parrot
3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@pleasecallmetomato4924
3 жыл бұрын
I honestly would love to hold that Long, thick, gorgeous Spartan Rod.....
@peskypigeonx
3 жыл бұрын
@@pleasecallmetomato4924 😮💨
@golagiswatchingyou2966
3 жыл бұрын
what building materials?
@XD-yn6hb
3 жыл бұрын
@@pleasecallmetomato4924 lol
@nowhereman6019
3 жыл бұрын
"I love democracy." -Solon
@YD39222
3 жыл бұрын
Palatine learned from the best
@felixn4420
3 жыл бұрын
I love the republic
@lordsebastianofbarovia3686
3 жыл бұрын
It's debatable, the Athenians were proud of the equality of all citizens in front of the law, but never used the word δημοκρατία, they would have found the concept of the power to the people appalling.
@peterwang5660
3 жыл бұрын
@@lordsebastianofbarovia3686 hence… Plato taking quite the issue with democracy.
@np7736
3 жыл бұрын
@@irasingh2498 if you wanna simp for your favorite youtuber, do it somewhere else
@philthephilosopher9235
3 жыл бұрын
Greek society be like "I got family."
@bobbybfat
3 жыл бұрын
Βιν Διεσελ
@matthewbadley5063
3 жыл бұрын
Ancient greek society be like the fast and furious meme
@tombkings6279
3 жыл бұрын
hosanna means family
@h0ser
3 жыл бұрын
Greeks then: we will create democracy, philosophy, Western art, code of laws, and many scientific/mathematical discoveries Greeks now: germany wheres my mony
@AsprosOfAzeroth
3 жыл бұрын
Sad, but that's what conformity with corruption will get you. Just look at countries like Brasil :(
@h0ser
3 жыл бұрын
@@AsprosOfAzeroth I made videos on both modern Greece and Brazil if you want to watch them
@jamesabestos2800
3 жыл бұрын
@@h0ser mmm y3s
@lucqq3792
3 жыл бұрын
@@h0ser i like ur voice n u do good topics so i subbed :]
@greeker10
3 жыл бұрын
@@Pretisy well to be a Greek you had to have 4 things. Omoglosson same language Omotropon same ways, customs Omoaimon same Blood and Omothriskon same Religion So I have no idea where you got the tolerant part from.
@No-ln8wb
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to this i can't stop imagining a little girl just going to a small shrine and just calmly chanting "Blood for the blood god", and that is so incredibly funny to me.
@concept5631
3 жыл бұрын
*Technoblade intensifies in the distance*
@liminal_fuckwit
3 жыл бұрын
I mean, Khorne needs to get his worship in some way...
@No-ln8wb
3 жыл бұрын
@@liminal_fuckwit "May grandpa Khorne bless you"
@concept5631
3 жыл бұрын
@@No-ln8wb Nurgle: *confusion intensifies*
@abdiqarebash3156
3 жыл бұрын
"Blood for the Blood god" "Skulls for the skull throne" Nice 40k references
@LunaNicoleTheFox
3 жыл бұрын
The greeks also had corn..for the KHORNEFLAKES
@SilverPrince_
3 жыл бұрын
@@LunaNicoleTheFox It's "MILK FOR THE KHORNEFLAKES", you Slaaneshi sicko.
@akumaking1
3 жыл бұрын
Those would have been better for Scandinavia and/or the Middle East
@LunaNicoleTheFox
3 жыл бұрын
@@SilverPrince_ What can I say, the tentacles just feel so good.
@Christian-mt5jx
3 жыл бұрын
Kraut comments regularly on Total War Warhammer content. He is a big fan, just like me since I see his comments lol.
@chinggiskhan6678
3 жыл бұрын
"If you fail, your God's will die!" Wait, but I thought my God can't die? "Your ancestors will too!" But they're already dead! "No they're not bro, they're spoopy ghosts. If you don't fight, they will surely truly die" Okay, but I didn't really like the- "Don't go to war and we'll kill you" ME CITY GREAT! HAIL CITY!
@GeneralPet
3 жыл бұрын
But it's right. Gods who are not worshiped by anyone are dead. Ancestors who are not remembered are also truly dead. Fighting and dying in battle is for preserving your people who are an extension of your self and your identity. Individualism was not a thing.
@stripyrex_gaming
2 жыл бұрын
@rimacutem of Alsvartrsmiðr I would argue our land Chinggis Khan has used a emotional tool called humour'
@emir6691
3 жыл бұрын
hey kraut - before this place gets full just wanna say thank you for the Turkish series. learned a lot and i'm glad people saw it. cheers man. every content of your channel is amazing! good luck
@observant6953
3 жыл бұрын
Up with you! The Turkish Century was one of the best series I've seen here. Captivating, funny and educational!
@saimonserge6928
3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to see at least one turk commenting in a video about greece and here it is..XD
@simonbrandberg1732
3 жыл бұрын
It accually got me into reading a huge book abaout Ottoman history. All thanks to Kraut!
@corneliuslaag9976
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right
@remembertotakeshowerspleas355
3 жыл бұрын
It makes me sad he never finished the series he was planning for Japan.
@sshole123
3 жыл бұрын
This video seems like a very good summary of Coulanges' The Ancient City.
@Icariaball
3 жыл бұрын
I was always fascinated with ancient greek history Art, Sience, litterature, Architecture, Theater, Democracy, Mythology,History Everything that that shaped the Western civilization started thousands of years before in these city states. Also thank you for the video it was really wholesome from you
@greuropeanunion5641
3 жыл бұрын
Where is WW1 video :)
@Icariaball
3 жыл бұрын
@@greuropeanunion5641 oh god please not even here
@christidiscipulus1576
3 жыл бұрын
Me but with christian history
@niksato5210
3 жыл бұрын
@@Icariaball There is no escape
@PakBallandSami
3 жыл бұрын
lol
@linhhoang3636
3 жыл бұрын
Solon's achievements were so extraordinary I feel like he's just a myth
@tylerdurden3722
2 жыл бұрын
Herodatus tends to do that when writing about something or someone who was real. He tends to write down the most sensational version of the story he encounters.
@paperbagman9445
3 жыл бұрын
There is nothing more important to the ancient Greeks than FAMILY
@Giganfan2k1
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't realize FF was Greek all along.
@SeruraRenge11
3 жыл бұрын
It's about family, and that's what makes it so powerful.
@jazdigance6403
3 жыл бұрын
16:18 funny thing about all the Greek imitation architecture seen across Europe, a tour guide in Athens told us they're all based on the Arch Of Hadrian, a structure commissioned when Rome took over Greece. The Greek who built it made a brick and mortar (Roman) main archway, topped with marble pillar and triangular roof (Greek). The point was that it was a secret "fuck you" to Rome, and apparently some Greek historians like to view structures such as the Arc du Triomphe and Brandenburg Gate as a continuation of that defiant Greek spirit, unbeknownst to the builders. I think it might have just been his national pride talking, but find it interesting nonetheless
@program4215
2 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't make sense for the Arch of Hadrian to have been commissioned when Rome took over Greece, because the Hadrian the arch is named for ruled as Emperor almost 300 years after Rome conquered Greece.
@albinbiju9463
3 жыл бұрын
while Athens was leading in all fields, be it governance models, architecture, etc; the city state of Sparta right next door was a functioning slave society
@allstarlord9110
3 жыл бұрын
If Athens had not lost the pelloponese war history could be different
@cormacdonnelly365
3 жыл бұрын
They were all slave societies though, the Lacedaimonian state just institutionalised it by dividing ethnically with Spartans on top and helots on the bottom, as opposed to dividing it by market forces/war booty/some other system.
@nadams8863
3 жыл бұрын
@@cormacdonnelly365 Ehhhh, the problem with that is that there is no evidence of any actual ethnic difference between the Spartans and their slaves, that was simply part of their mythology.
@cormacdonnelly365
3 жыл бұрын
@@nadams8863 Fair point, tribal probably would've been a better word, but the overall criticism still stands
@mattbenz99
3 жыл бұрын
@@allstarlord9110 Probably not. The Athenians would have still been eventually conquered by the Romans. People often forget just how good at war the Romans were, and how they just came in and conquered everything over a few hundred years.
@sipahihan1
3 жыл бұрын
Dude this content is my research subject for degree. I found very satisfying. Love From Turkey to my Greek neighbors.
@peterwang5660
3 жыл бұрын
Well that was unexpected
@sipahihan1
3 жыл бұрын
@@peterwang5660 why?
@GeneralPet
3 жыл бұрын
@@sipahihan1 Turk studying Greek history. That's why. Your president won't like it
@alejandrofelixgutierrez7956
3 жыл бұрын
@@GeneralPet Greek history is part of his heritage too.
@GeneralPet
3 жыл бұрын
@@alejandrofelixgutierrez7956 I'm just saying why some will find this unexpected.
@BadDayLp
3 жыл бұрын
I just imagine an conversation between an Spartan and someone from a diffrent Polis Dude: Hey Sparta, why arent you using coins the make traiding so easy! Spartan: Nah mate, i stay with metal rods. D: But why? Coins are so much more convinient- S: Yeah but what if war breaks out? D: So? S: Any my spear is broken? D: Buy a new one? With... coins? S: Yeah but what if everybody spear is broken? Havent thought about that hm? Yeah, i stay with my metal rods, i can make them easily into a weapon. D: ... okay bro. I aint got a problem, chief.
@maxstirner6143
3 жыл бұрын
that doesnt make sense, coins were made also of metals, not just gold or silver ....
@stekra3159
3 жыл бұрын
@@maxstirner6143 Yes but Spartans obol was made out of Iron, not silver.
@maxstirner6143
3 жыл бұрын
@@stekra3159 so? You can melt coins into weapons also... Coins were made of a variety of metals, from gold to copper, iron also So the point here is that the difference in the usage of the currency is not the physical appearance of the currency but the value, the rods were just coins in large size or deflated coins. 1lb of iron in rode shape is more valuable than 3 coins of iron... Spartans were more rich than Athenians, just that. The joke make no sense because puts the Spartans as fools when they had the more valuable currency and had no devaluation in their currency... From a practical and economic view has no point. I get the joke but, for me, makes no sense, Athenians had to pay the coinage and use a devaluated currency and Spartans had easier to prepare for war and a better currency. Don't take me seriously, I can laugh at anything anytime but some jokes, doesn't make me laugh even if are objectively good in the ""normie"" sphere, and this is one
@kosmas173
3 жыл бұрын
@@maxstirner6143 Spartans didn't like trading like other nations did they also didn't want it's citizens to hoard money and get rich. On a note, coins were invented around 500bC so before that using other things to trade with like obols and talants were the standard so Sparta just stuck with it. On another note, Sparta did use a coin at some point but it was large and heavy on purpose for the reasons I mentioned above.
@minhducnguyen9276
3 жыл бұрын
@@kosmas173 Well if you don't export anything, having a deflated currency is not bad. And I doubt Sparta was exporting anything in large amount unless they do mercenary work. But Athens do export so using coin would be a smarter choice.
@CarthagoMike
3 жыл бұрын
I love how the introduction of Herodotus is shown as a breaking of the 4th wall, just like Herodotus himself tried to peer through the 'box' he found himself in by writing down anything he heard, saw and perceived.
@spectacles-dm
Жыл бұрын
A really profound portrayal of Athens' departure from ancestor-worship and embrace of the project of statehood can be found in Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War. When reading, pay attention to where he mentions the Athenians fleeing the city on their ships to escape the Persians, and in whose mouth he puts the remarks, because to flee the city was to flee one's ancestors aboard the products of the state rather than the family. One finds a fascinating commentary which sheds much light on Thucydides' own opinion of the state-building project and those who spearheaded it.
@thelittletyrant5539
3 жыл бұрын
Small correction. In Greece when we say "the end" we say only "τέλος", "το" is self explanatory
@chrispy1398
3 жыл бұрын
Kraut says his sponsor is surfshark, he says he's teaching us Greek history. But I know that "Athenian" owl... he's up in here doing what duolingo only wishes it could.
@mardasman428
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for providing us the info on the meaning of this sentence that I was looking for so desperately.
@anttet
3 жыл бұрын
One of so few people, whose videos I wait, is here again! Thank you, kind Parrot!
@TheDolphinTuna
3 жыл бұрын
Kraut will always be a painting of a dude with sunglasses to me
@kakalimukherjee3297
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDolphinTuna I just discovered him last year and found some political shi*storm about him. You seem to know him from that era.
@TheDolphinTuna
3 жыл бұрын
@@kakalimukherjee3297 Yeah, I watched him from back in the day. He used to make anti-SJW content/anti-altright content. He's transitioned to making quality longform history videos now.
@stevankovacevic2691
3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a history on the Balkans, it's an interesting subject to see how many different types of people's migrated there
@Deathskull0001
3 жыл бұрын
That's gonna take a few episodes, lol
@TheOneWh0Knocks
3 жыл бұрын
It will get demonetized most probably, since he would have to cover all the murder, genocide and sacking of other communities, especially when he talks about the slavic serboi tribes that migrated to the Balkans in 600AD and their being till this day in form of the nation of serbia.
@dewey7085
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe if the comment section does not go 90’s on it
@Daniel-jm7ts
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOneWh0Knocks I mean he did a video about turkey so the balkans shouldn't be a problem
@oddballtv712
3 жыл бұрын
16:51 that subtle dig was just beautiful
@English_Thespian
3 жыл бұрын
Who was it aimed at?
@generalpinochetfoundthesol3747
3 жыл бұрын
@@English_Thespian Paul Joseph Watson
@unclesam5230
3 жыл бұрын
@@generalpinochetfoundthesol3747 the Neo Nazi
@English_Thespian
3 жыл бұрын
@@generalpinochetfoundthesol3747 Are you sure? I don't recall PJW using any ancient greek iconography on his channel. Personally I was wondering if Kraut was making a dig about Sargon naming his discord server Athens, like HBomberguy referenced in his Fallout: New Vegas video a while back.
@jvani
3 жыл бұрын
Within almost 18 minutes I learned more about my country's history than I did in school. Wonderful job!
@Mrs.THECOMMUNISTCHANNEL
3 жыл бұрын
Non Greeks: *exists* *This enraged the Greeks who punished them severely*
@jasonbelstone3427
3 жыл бұрын
(Loop of stick Greek symbol stick-figure spanking a non-greek thats over his knee)
@Jobe-13
2 жыл бұрын
😂
@ebrem557
3 жыл бұрын
Today is my birthday and this is the best gift! Thanks @Kraut.
@Kraut_the_Parrot
3 жыл бұрын
happy birthday :)
@orestispasxos7433
3 жыл бұрын
Watching a video on ancient Greece as a Greek myself is always a very conflicting experience. On one hand, it's great to see all the stuff you were taught in school be explained in an easily digestible way, helping people understand why we Greeks still hold onto our past the way we do. On the other hand, the numerous "haha greece poor lmao" jokes made by people who have never been to Greece are a little irritating after the 10.000th time. Putting that aside, this was a great video. Very much looking forward to the next.
@kohterg3713
3 жыл бұрын
Your mother may be greek but your father was turkish, go pay your debts now. 🤣🤣🤣
@orestispasxos7433
3 жыл бұрын
@@kohterg3713 I'll pay my debts when Turkey recognises the Armenian genocide
@conk6379
3 жыл бұрын
@@orestispasxos7433 you killed that man 😭
@LightHolmes
3 жыл бұрын
The comparison of Egyptian and Greek statues over time is such an excellent point. I've long been fascinated by the effect different cultures had on each other and how it's clearly seen in earlier Greek art, and the gradual change in style as the Greek society progressed. But I've never known about the correlation between the structure of both societies and the evolution of the art they create.
@jackeroo_sundown
3 жыл бұрын
Kraut and Historia Civilis are my two favorite channels. Always such amazing work
@vitorluigi2911
3 жыл бұрын
Kraut >>>> geography teacher This guy is literally going to make me pass to a college one day, you'll see
@jamiewhichelo9983
3 жыл бұрын
Dude I literally used 2 videos of his, did further research to find original sources (especially on China taking the EU in 'trumps biggest mistake' on this presentation for my politics final
@Giganfan2k1
3 жыл бұрын
@@jamiewhichelo9983 Noice
@Maxatal
3 жыл бұрын
Dang, the shade thrown at 16:50
@alexander11012
3 жыл бұрын
Who he was talking about?
@gotoShiba01
3 жыл бұрын
@@CcReap3r 99% sure he used to have that as his pfp
@EdLemieux
3 жыл бұрын
I also would like to know.
@sorsocksfake
3 жыл бұрын
Sargon's profile picture was, well, Sargon. I'm pretty sure Kraut knows that full well. If he wanted to cast shade at Sargon he'd do it properly. So either he's commenting on others, which is plausible enough. There are plenty of channels out there. Or he's made sure to fire a blank, and Sargon may decide for himself whether it applies to him or not.
@kanekyrocryptic7853
3 жыл бұрын
@@sorsocksfake I believe it's about him, as been pointed out by @kategoryland "Sargon's discord server is called "Athens". I assumed that is what Kraut was referring to.". And also he's British just like a countryball in the picture.
@DemonSliime
Жыл бұрын
As a coin collector, I understand just how important currency is in a historical sense. Say you find an ancient burial site or a grave. And in the grave there is a coin. You can use that going to narrow down who that person was. Not like their name and all that. But where they have been, at what point in time, and for what. There was pretty much a completely unique coin, every 5 mi.² They would differ from village to village, town to town, city state to city state, nation to nation. One of the most famous was mentioned in this video, and the Athenian Owl. And there are many examples, varieties, dimensions, etc. A coin can tell you so much, and if they could talk, historians would be out of a job. I. Not only did every community have their own coins, they all had multiple denominations, sizes, purities, weights, composition, etc.… Bronze, Silver, Gold, Copper, and Electrum were all very common materials used for ancient coins in various alloys, purities and weights. The designs would change quite often as well. That is why you can use an ancient coin to pinpoint where someone was on a historical timeline. In the Athenian owl was used for almost 1000 years, on and off, in various different states, either with a different reverse, a slightly different design, a different date, a different name, different motto, etc… let’s get back to that coin we found in that burial site. More likely than not we will be able to pinpoint a date within 20 years.
@withnail-and-i
3 жыл бұрын
There is an great book written by Numa Denis Fustel De Coulanges in the XIXth century, called "The Ancient City". The case he makes is that Greek and Roman cultures are much more alien to ours than we think, because of the cult of the ancestors and the social structure that was all built around the hearth that could never go out, and how that deeply affected their way of thinking about concepts such as Law. Very good account of the steps such a culture could have followed, although he overstated the role of religion by cherry picking some sources. That being said, he has read all of the literature in original languages, and the way that he takes two similar claims by writers of different eras and build another piece of a puzzle is genius. And he does accomplish his goal to repudiate the Robespierres and Rousseaus of his society when they saw modern cultures as analogous to the ancients. But it is much more, and still one of THE must reads (available in the public domain online).
@randomperson6988
3 жыл бұрын
This had a lot more emphasis on ancestor worship than I’d ever heard of
@bopeep268
3 жыл бұрын
5:52 "did you say family?" *Dominic Torreto walks in** Kraut: "Dominic Toreto?!" Dom: "Family is everything!"
@corneliuscapitalinus845
3 жыл бұрын
I really do love these historical explorations you've taken to. Its definitely something that is still sorely lacking, even with historyYT.
@SeruraRenge11
3 жыл бұрын
I just want to say that you're slightly off about WHY Sparta used iron rods. One of the biggest reasons Sparta fell behind is because they refused to adopt standardized currency in order to prevent the hoarding of money. The closest thing they had to currency was obeloi, which are the heavy iron rods in question. In order to engage in commerce the city-state still heavily engaged in bartering. >For who was going to steal something, or take bribes in it, or steal it, or take it by force, when it wasn’t possible to conceal it, to possess it jealously, or even to make a profit by cutting it up? For the red-hot iron was quenched with vinegar, it’s said, so that the hardening took away its usefulness and value for any other purpose, making it weak and unworkable. ~ Plutarch The rods were not made for spear ends because the vinegar made them the worst spear tips in the world. They couldn't economically compete with their neighbors. They had slaves to do the hard work, were trained to be autistic misers since infancy, had a good propaganda machine, and cared not for commerce. And that's why Sparta ended as the Disneyland of Rome
@omaaar2008
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kraut, I have a bachelors degree in history and although I didnt chose this as my career, I know most of the things you present but I still find great joy in listening to them yet again. Keep up with this good work! Cheers!
@BluJay30
3 жыл бұрын
Finally a youtuber that puts the sponsorship at the very beginning, it makes the video easier for me to watch.
@memescap1236
3 жыл бұрын
Best channel on KZitem is back!
@altinmares8363
3 жыл бұрын
If you love history you can watch videos at channel Kings and Generals
@mr.potato8000
3 жыл бұрын
@@altinmares8363 his coverage is.... too narrow
@sparkpenguin
3 жыл бұрын
the summarization worked-- excellent pacing and perfect length! i live alone so i watch videos when i eat my at-home night meal and that 15-20m window is perfect to absorb the information/experience and neither activity gets interrupted. as someone who looks forward to your long docs/series immensely, i'm glad to see these shortdives joining my mealtime lineup too! you distill the info so well and the visuals are perfect.
@anonymousanonymous7250
3 жыл бұрын
16:57 Don't you mean they name themselves after ancient Mesopotamian kings?
@shark-gf7ff
3 жыл бұрын
Just commenting to see if he was referring to anyone other than Sargon
@pauldefillippo8490
3 жыл бұрын
@@shark-gf7ff that's who popped in my head
@EdLemieux
3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering who he was throwing a dig at but I couldn't name anybody. Sargon was the one that I thought of but that context is wrong. Anyone actually know who he's talking about?
@kategoryland8346
3 жыл бұрын
@@EdLemieux Sargon's discord server is called "Athens". I assumed that is what Kraut was referring to.
@kanekyrocryptic7853
3 жыл бұрын
@@kategoryland8346 And he is also British just like countryball in the picture
@dydx_
2 жыл бұрын
This video is splendid, I have recently developed a great interest in ancient history about Athen. It's a perfect summary, connecting all the different books and stories from religion, to myth, to wars, and so on together. Splendid introductory video!
@nicolasferrante6965
3 жыл бұрын
Love your content, it inspired me to study more subjects about history. Haven't watched the video yet, but I know for a fact that I will be excellent.
@BeaverChainsaw
3 жыл бұрын
What I really like about kraut is how detailed he is when he makes a certain topic, I literally see few videos of similar quality to his videos.
@fissavids8767
3 жыл бұрын
16:50 is this a reference to sarkon of akkad?
@sebastianbass2219
3 жыл бұрын
Recommendation: video on Mississippi and how it transformed from the wealthiest American state to the poorest.
@Giganfan2k1
3 жыл бұрын
Dude... Too soon. XD
@grahamturner2640
3 жыл бұрын
How and when was it the wealthiest state? And is even West Virginia more wealthy than Mississippi?
@sebastianbass2219
3 жыл бұрын
@@grahamturner2640 One word: slavery. And yes all the other southern states are wealthier than Mississippi because it resisted Reconstruction.
@astrolonim2032
3 жыл бұрын
A brilliant return to short videos. Thank you Kraut.
@twenty-fifth420
3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was here this early, Tenochtitlan was still the largest city in the Americas before the Spanish Nation attacked.
@danskegriphinn
3 жыл бұрын
when the πολιτικός is sus
@MegaTang1234
3 жыл бұрын
Damn, the Spartans are just on another dimension huh.
@zjreviews4288
2 жыл бұрын
My AP World History teacher has a series of videos he uses to teach called the School of Athens (ironic given his obsession with Persia). That 16:50 comment reminded me of this, and gave me a good chuckle.
@CarthagoMike
3 жыл бұрын
When a 'short' video is still longer than 90% of video's on this platform.
@alexanderchatziioannidis4767
3 жыл бұрын
It's fascinating how this ancient Greek obsession with family and the importance that family had to them still persists in Greek society today. A lot of Greeks are taught from a young age that family is the most important thing and everything else goes after(this of course depends on the parents, as some view God as more important than family).
@HyouSubaru
3 жыл бұрын
"Sparta is strong... But not as strong as the Family." - Idomeneus Torettidis [ 420 BC ]
@Laconic-Spartan
2 ай бұрын
Except the big concepts we all know more or less Greece invented which shaped the Western world, created categories of Sciences, Democracy, Olympics, Battle Tactics etc, another interesting fact is the small ones they invented, like, the one you described about the bride. Also, the reason we have 45' class and then break or when the professors speak and questions only at the end, also come by the Greeks. The geniuses oftentimes have had their quirks, like today. I don't remember his name, but in one of the first academies in Greece, a professor would become furious in case someone tried to interrupt him while after he finished his lesson, he was delightful to receive all the questions. All these small habits remained until today. In short, Greece shaped the Western world in many more ways one could imagine. It's not only the Democracy, Olympics, Sciences and Battle Tactics I mentioned above and kept them alive until today. Furthermore, just imagine the courage one would need in order to demote the planets overnight from their God-Status to simple "wanderers/objects". Only afterwards came the Heliocentrism by Democritus, but couldn't prove it until the telescope was invented much later. Also the Greeks through their sciences were first to study the growth of the olive oil tree. The big-figures have had helpers which would pay them to go as far up as the English Channel to measure the tide. What a journey that would be. Last but not least, since the Greeks created the first analog computer (the Antikythera Mechanism), after its discovery, people theorized in case Greeks hadn't had interrupted, they were on the verge of industrial revolution. Obviously, it wouldn't be exactly the same as we know it today from England and the US, but the world would progress much faster. However, we really cannot play the "what if" game. Too many parameters, variables. The Greeks have been fought by everyone. East, West, North even South. Needless to mention, I'm slightly proud I come from this little tribe of people. It's impressive the ingenuity and resolve of my forefathers is the reason we still exist. I'd call it a "miracle" but that'd be an oxymoron. 'Miracle' by definition is something which cannot happen.
@delta5433
3 жыл бұрын
5:52 -Vin Diesel
@Jobe-13
3 жыл бұрын
😂
@qaseemtak9368
3 жыл бұрын
New Kraut video? I guess I can scratch 20 minutes off my schedule
@Sealdrop
3 жыл бұрын
gyros or something idk i'm swiss
@theroaria8065
3 жыл бұрын
This video has about as many uses of "family" as a Fast and Furious movie
@P99s-s
3 жыл бұрын
Athens was (like Sparta) also somewhat unique and more of an exception among the Greek city states, especially because because their power came from their navy and the navy needed a bunch of lower class people, even just to row the triremes, so these people now found enough political power to pressure the elites of Athens into a "democracy" (the word used in its ancient sense) and honestly Athenian democracy was far from a logical, well functioning governing operatus…. looking at the Sicilian expedition is enough to make that clear Anyway, that development did not happen in Corinth or Thebes or Argos, combine that with Athens involvement in the Persian wars, the silver mine and the advantageous geography and you got a recipe for a city state that could undergo the journey into statehood Also we shouldn’t forget that Athens is so well studied among the city states simply because of sources, we just have far more surviving information on Athens then any other city state (and that alone already tells us something about the unique nature of the whole thing)
@romanthielker9219
3 жыл бұрын
I got so used to the 1+ hours long videos that i was confused why the video ended after 18 minutes. Still a very good Video thank you for making it
@gmbrusselsprout
3 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal content Kraut! This short form content is a wonderful Bite-Size version of your longer pieces and it's a great change of pace! Keep up the great work! :D
@Luey_Luey
3 жыл бұрын
I want to be one of the people to say that I like the return of the shorter videos. I still have yet to set aside the time to watch the final 2hr installment of the Mexico series, but I've actually got the time to watch through this video the same day it released. The shorter videos are more accessible for me at least
@keenkan7465
3 жыл бұрын
Really pleased with how quickly this went up after the last one without and sacrifices in quality
@nicks816
Жыл бұрын
Ultimate chad moves: >walk in >invents partial democracy in less than a year >leaves
@red_nikolai
3 жыл бұрын
Any day that Kraut uploads history content, is a good day.
@dominiklovric4026
3 жыл бұрын
The subtle jab at Sargon at 16:51 makes this video all the better
@unclesam5230
3 жыл бұрын
It was directed at Paul Joseph Watson not Sargon
@The_Fireball
Жыл бұрын
I like how you put "το τέλος" in the end. Though, being a Greek, I want to tell you it's wrong. I suppose you google translated "the end" though in greek, "the" is not necessary. Just having end "τέλος" is the correct way to say it.
@georgios_5342
3 жыл бұрын
5:24 of course it does. Remember Achilles, before the battle in Troy, he said to his tribe, the Myrmidons "Only one omen is good:fight for the land of your (fore)fathers."
@vasilisdouklias6992
3 жыл бұрын
Loved the video, and I loved the outro message a ton. You spoke about the world, but here in Greece we speak very highly of ancient Greece and especially of Ancient Athens and its "Χρυσός Αιώνας" (Golden Century), where all the philosophy and theatre emerged. Yet we never speak about the institutions or structures of the time. We just hear how awesome everything was and assume that we were awesome. I myself was quite blind to a lot of things and made patriotic statements about Ancient Greek history, until I went to high school and happened upon a teacher who offer a different perspective. What I am saying is more people should learn about the institutions and beliefs these ancient people had, in order to correctly contrast them with today.
@noradrenalin8062
3 жыл бұрын
16:56 At least they don't use ancient Sumerian kings or something like that...
@hombreg1
3 жыл бұрын
Kraut, I'm loving your more medium lenght format. I mean, I'd take a 3 hour behemoth of a series... but I also like that you can rest a bit, whilst creating content that doesn't stress you that much
@godscroissant1539
3 жыл бұрын
As an iranian the greeks always fascinated me mostly because how they held their own against the iranian empires. Even though they were defeated most of the time by the iranians they always managed to defeat the iranians in very key moments in history and that really makes me want to figure out why and how they did it. Great video btw.
@SurveyCorps101
3 жыл бұрын
Simple answer: The Greeks were divided and a single city-state couldn`t possibly survive against the Persians for long hence the many victories of the Persians but the Greeks stopped killing each other and uniting during very key moments in history which was unfortunate for the Persians.
@godscroissant1539
3 жыл бұрын
@@SurveyCorps101 thank you man do you have any book recommendations on this topic?
@SurveyCorps101
3 жыл бұрын
@@godscroissant1539 In Greece where I`m from they were mini stories in the ancient greek class in school about the small skirmishes between the Greek city states but I can`t really recommend you a public school book. If you want to know more about the city states during the Persian era then I suggest reading books about the Peloponnesian War or the Corinthian War that shows some city states allying with Persia and other stuff. If you want to know more about the Persian war effort in Greece then you should read a book about Darius the Great or Xerxes that will show you what the Persian Empire went through in Greece. You can watch videos about the history between Greece and Persia if you want to get a better understanding or you search in google 'greco persian war books' you`ll see many recommendations.
@thelunaticcultist5157
3 жыл бұрын
Wow Kraut, this is very good! Extremely informative and the art was great! It was just a little while ago that the countryballs were just perfect circles with flags in them and by just giving them a little form it adds so much personality! Thank you Kraut.
@Parzi_
3 жыл бұрын
12:54 damn Sparta was so edgy
@grekusPotatus
3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen their economy? They literally were the South of Antiquity.
@unclesam5230
3 жыл бұрын
@@grekusPotatus the south before it was famous
@FromHellDesigns
3 жыл бұрын
This is definitely one of my favorite channels on KZitem
@kkonstantinosss2
3 жыл бұрын
Germany: Forces Greece to lend them all their money in WW2 Also Germany: Greece owes us money Greece: Forgives debt to Germany Germany: You owe us money
@CosmicValkyrie
3 жыл бұрын
Just leave EU bro. it'll be fun.
@omriorgad7771
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kraut, have you heard of 'Histroia Civilis'? They make videos about (mainly) ancient history, and they have a great video about the structure of the Athenian state called 'The Constitution of Athens'. His videos are more focused on political structures and wars as opposed to your socio-economic&geopolitical aspects of history, but I think you both make some cool videos
@babyblooddistilleriesinc3131
3 жыл бұрын
1:34 I was uder the impression that we simply don't know wether or not the Mycenaeans( aka, bronze-age, Greek civilization) were politically unifed.
@globe0147
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think. The Mycenaeans were all the unified, it still seems like a lot of polities that SOMETIMES worked together in the illiad.
@sorsocksfake
3 жыл бұрын
The main answer would be in Kraut's definition of a "state". In many a sense, even tribes and gangs are states, in that they hold power over their residents, make and enforce rules, and so forth. Bronze age kingdoms can certainly be seen as states, as systems of rule - often with an extensive administrative system already. Kraut seems to use the term here, either for a modern, somewhat liberal state (characterized by universal laws, checks and balances etc). Or for a system that is governed by the system itself, rather than by a strongman's edict. As far as I'm aware, the Mycenaeans would rather be a network of city-states ruled by kings, which might ally and unite both defensively and offensively. It's hard to tell any details though. Quickly we'd start relying on much later legends, which may largely be speaking of their own time in a historical backdrop (as many "historical" novels and plays do).
@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster
3 жыл бұрын
Great content really educated me on the less well known periods of Greece
@csours
3 жыл бұрын
Old Greeceball: We live in a society. Young Hellenball: So THAT's what you call it.
@schroederscurrentevents3844
2 жыл бұрын
I totally understand why you’d want to condense videos but man I LOVE your four hour series.
@Arthur_da_dog
3 жыл бұрын
Woah, I think your voice mixed with polandballs puts me in a "long video mindset". This felt like it was 5 minutes long! As much as I do love the movie length type videos you produce, what really matters is that it works best for you.
@nodspruductionss3812
3 жыл бұрын
4:57 I have soil from modern turkey(trapezond) inside my room in athens. My great grandmother's mother took it when they were escaping the pontic greek genoside in 1920 during the grecoturkish war (they did so in a Jewish-egyptian ship). It has been cept like treasure in my family home for generations. I dont know if it is connected to that, but you made me shiver.
@nspctrm
2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Trabzon writing from there rn actually, there is at least one pontic person I know that comes from Greece (family just kept coming generation after generation) to here every year and visit their house now belongs to a Turkish family they become acquainted with the family they let them around the property and their house. When pontic ppl were escaping some of them had to leave their small children to their Turkish neighbors they thought cant survive the journey or the mayhem that was unfolding in the region, at least one I personally know the story of but apparently this was a pretty prevalent thing back then. My grandmother can speak Romeika(Pontic Greek), her mothers first language was romeika like that was the language they used daily, she says her mother was speaking with her turkish language most of the time but senior members of the family were speaking romeika, maybe to blend in? she claims that was the language spoken there and they were living with pontic greeks shoulder to shoulder for hundreds of years history of Turks stretches back to Selcuk Turks even before that, they married into collaborated with all local kingdoms even before byzantine empire throughout history so Turks learned romeika? maybe they were pontic greek I don't know for certain, assimilation probably did happened in the reagon some greeks did became Muslims and or maybe Turks did learned romeika since they were living together forever who knows, probably a mixture, every possibility that can happen did happen
@nodspruductionss3812
2 жыл бұрын
@@nspctrm a thousant years is a long time...
@rorycampbell7490
3 жыл бұрын
Unless you already have, there’s content in relation to evidence that argues how Sparta was not the warrior based society we thought it was. The iron rod thing did happen as-well as their regimented society but none of it was exclusively militaristic as the society as a whole was an Aristocratic collective that demanded discipline not to make better warrior but rather better citizens.
@benskji
3 жыл бұрын
thank you for posting your sources and music sources!! for a long time that was my biggest criticism with this channel, was that your sources and your media was not cited, and as a result it was difficult to read from your sources myself or just listen to the nice music you have in the background. i have yet to watch the video but i appreciate the citations in the description, it really helps mate :)
@GijsTheDog
3 жыл бұрын
"Civilisation is where laws rule, not men" -Arristotle
@unclesam5230
3 жыл бұрын
Oh how far we have strayed from Civilization then
@erraticonteuse
3 жыл бұрын
Me whenever people complain about "cancel culture": 14:10 Seriously though, I once saw one of those marble statue avatars on Twitter lamenting how "cancel culture" and "SJWs" were stifling discourse, etc., etc. And *then* I swear to God I'm not making this up, as a "hypothetical" example, they were like, "Imagine if the Greeks of Socrates's time rejected 'civil debate' like they do!!" All I could think was, "Dude, you might want to Google how Socrates died before you start advocating a return for ancient Athenian standards of discourse."
@Croz89
3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, if the people could only "cancel" one person a year, they might save it for someone who _really_ deserves it.
@panagiotismagos3649
3 жыл бұрын
Well yeah, it was a horrible system we shouldn't replicate. Ostracism led to many great men being exiled for no reason, and was a tool by demagogues to eliminate their more competent opponents
@Croz89
3 жыл бұрын
@@panagiotismagos3649 It does sound like a system that could be very easily abused.
@panagiotismagos3649
3 жыл бұрын
@@Croz89 If you want to hear about one of the worst misuses of Ostracism, google Aristides "the just", considered one of the most honorable and skilled politicians in Athens. Ironically, Themistocles, Aristides' most major political opponent and one of (if not the most) important people behind the victory of the Greeks in the Persian wars was also ostracized from Athens. Two of Athens' greatest politicians, and two of the most key figures in its long term success, were both ostracized by the Athenian people. If that wasn't a broken system, I dont know what is
@TrollCommando
3 жыл бұрын
If you don't idealise ancient Greece, you just don't know enough.
@paranoikoc
3 жыл бұрын
This video is very cool and actually really accurate. As a greek myself I'd personally like it if you made a more firm point about the slaves used in Ancient Athens. They were a key part of every family and were even often seen as family members. Moreover they could be owned by the state in which they worked as bureaucrats or members of the police etc. Thank you so much for this video though it was really nice and informative, even for me!
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