CORRECTION: The York Barbell Club where Steve trained for his comeback is in York, Pennsylvania. I said Philadelphia by accident in the video. Who do you think should have won? Vote on my community poll: kzitem.infoUgkxj6YPawXzlx53pSdQBOhvOVLhqW00mt0M
@daviddupre5591
Жыл бұрын
Steve Reeves also had the flu while training for this contest in York, Pennsylvania with George Eiferman. They drove from Los Angeles to York, Pennsylvania in a beat up old car.
@Xinjiekou_新街口_Station
Жыл бұрын
Can not understand why the directors would want him so small.....
@ericjohnson9477
Жыл бұрын
Oops, another great statement.
@thispersonrighthere9024
Жыл бұрын
steve wins! his genetics are just better.
@deductivereasoning4257
Жыл бұрын
All sports are rigged...
@clintemshoff6663
3 ай бұрын
What most people fail to realize about Reeves is he had a unique posing style. Unlike today, where bodybuilders remain in a flexed state even when not posing, Reeves would completely relax between poses. His belief was that his poses looked more incredible going from relaxed to fully flexed, and if you look at the pictures I believe he’s right. Of course, pictures of him relaxed next to Reg flexing could beg the question how did he win, but when you see the pictures of him posing it was no contest. The judges saw it the same way, as I believe the judges voted 4-2 or 5-2 in Reeves’ favor.
@Henryreyna2004
Жыл бұрын
This era needs a comeback
@Odinson224
Жыл бұрын
Honestly prefer the bronze era myself especially the wider waist is more practical for manual labor and strength which is something I also desire. That being said the Silver era was an absolutely great era in terms of allowing bodybuilding to become popular while still being healthy focused.
@Odinson224
Жыл бұрын
@@Joseph_dubs_wilson I really don't see how they could just be noticing, the downsides have been apparent for years. I am glad that the competitions might be going back to their roots and embracing a more healthy focused competition.
@nicolamarco7110
Жыл бұрын
Working on it my amigo ❤
@MadGunny
Жыл бұрын
No tattoos, natural but impressive physiques. A comeback would be sweet
@user-he4ef9br7z
Жыл бұрын
@@Odinson224I've always been disgusted by my relatively wide waist but it does make me stronger structurally.
@41BOT
Жыл бұрын
I just can't get over hypocritic Hollywood. Inviting a man for his great natural physique, and then asking to grade it down.
@SB-mg1wy
Жыл бұрын
It happened with Arnold too
@willyf6172
Жыл бұрын
@@SB-mg1wy Arnold got smaller , but I don’t think it had to with being asked to drop size . More to do with naturally losing size after getting out of competition and not doing the same thing anymore to get his maximum size . Happens to guys all the time after retiring . Steve’s was far more natural than Arnold , perhaps entirely natural .
@emmanuelmondesir
Жыл бұрын
Arnold said that they asked him to lose weight for the Terminator.
@willyf6172
Жыл бұрын
@@emmanuelmondesir Perhaps they did ask him to drop weight but he wasn’t going to keep the muscle mass anyway , if he didn’t stay on the same program with all the medication. He still did look pretty big in the Terminator even so , bigger than Steve Reeves was at his biggest .
@fernandomaron87
11 ай бұрын
@@willyf6172Even before Terminator when he did Conan they've asked him to lose a few kilos in order to hold a sword correctly with more fluid moves. You can’t compare his body even after leaving competition to Steve's, he was still working out and on gear, heck even in T3 when he was 55 he had almost the same size, while Steve had already shrunk dramatically when he gave his run in acting.
@DragonGP
Жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of both Park and Reeves, but Steve's proportions were on a whole different plane. He looked like he stepped off Mt. Olympus. To me, the contest looked like it was between Reeve's better physique and lines, vs Park's superior conditioning, which makes it the close contest that it was.
@oscarrodriguez8998
Жыл бұрын
thats true. but it sucks back then i guess they judged more on genetics (steve's general proportion's in this case) rather than the conditioning and overall fit look.
@DragonGP
Жыл бұрын
@@oscarrodriguez8998 Well, I guess it depends on how you look at it. Is it harder to get lean, or to have 1 in 100,000,000 genetics? Reeves body was better than Parks at almost every point, but Reg was leaner.
@oscarrodriguez8998
Жыл бұрын
@@DragonGP i doubt Reg’s bodybuilding work for this one could’ve be summed up as simply lean as he looked muscular too. I think Reg was the clear winner but that’s my opinion based on the pics. Might’ve looked different in person -
@jmgonzales7701
Жыл бұрын
tbh i dont think reg looker more muscular, he was definitely leaner and i agree that he should have won but from what I'm seeing in the photos reeves looked a bit bigger idk if its due to the frame @@oscarrodriguez8998
@jmgonzales7701
6 ай бұрын
@@oscarrodriguez8998 tbh even if it was graded down i would like that physique, partly because no mere mortal can look the same as peak steve reeves. I am personally Fond of his toned down physiques such as kimbar (seen in the video) and when he fought primo but even that is kinda big.
@pimpompoom93726
2 ай бұрын
Park had more definition in still photos, but Reeves just had IT-that intangible presence, symmetry and good looks that radiates out during posing. It wasn't stolen, the right man won.
@DMAN99
Жыл бұрын
Reg Park's symmetry in that picture of him and Steve was crazy, his abdominals are lined up perfectly.
@theo1965stang
Жыл бұрын
Politics. Steve was the 50s Arnold. Steve went on to Hollywood and that’s why he won.
@BeefWifGrief
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Politics per usual
@yippee-ki-yay9925
Жыл бұрын
In 1950, Steve only had minor acting roles. He wasn't on Arnold's level in the 1980s.
@glennbishopbishthemagish
Жыл бұрын
At that time Steve Reeves was just starting his show biz life, and he is several years away from getting his break out roll as Hercules.
@bigmacdaddy1234
11 ай бұрын
If it were politics, why did Sergio win in 67,68,69?
@fernandomaron87
11 ай бұрын
Steve didn't go to Hollywood my friend, he made cameos there, but all his movies as protagonist were in the italian movie industry, and the first one was Hercules in 1958 way after this contest happened.
@bombfog1
Жыл бұрын
I recently saw a short you did discussing Milo of Croton who used a growing calf to progressively overload everyday as he prepared for the Ancient Olympics. You doubted the story but I’d like to point out that cows were much smaller then than they are now, so it’s entirely possible that this story is no exaggeration. Love your channel.
@lsegher
Жыл бұрын
Back then we had natty men and natty cows
@bombfog1
Жыл бұрын
@@lsegher Ha Ha Ha! That’s an obvious joke that I wish I had thought of.
@pablowentscobar
Жыл бұрын
I use to really be into martial arts and on a mission to watch every old Kung Fu movie I could get my hands on. There's a bunch of old Kung Fu movies that had the "Wrestling a Bull to get strong" trope. Even in the early days of movies coming out of China the bulls were much smaller. I have no doubt that was an actual training technique. One or two of Jackie Chan's early films have him wrestling a bull. I think it my have been "Snake in the Eagles Shadow" Which is an amazing film, but I'd have to go back and watch it. Those old Jackie movies have some crazy strength training techniques if interested.
@ofauvi2089
Жыл бұрын
I mean Alexander Zass could carry a full grown horse across a river during the 20’s-40’s. There’s photos of it. You could definitely carry a calf, and might be able to carry a full grown bull (ancient world size)
@kryptonianstrength8461
Жыл бұрын
Bulls back then were 500 lbs not 2000 like today
@biohazard9503
Жыл бұрын
Those shots at 14:14 with him doing that overhead pose looks absolutely incredible, if his posing looked like that throughout maybe then it's understandable why he beat Reg. It's hard to judge a physique with still shots where he's relaxed, he looks more massive while posing in those 2 shots... And his legs do look better in most shots
@walden6272
Жыл бұрын
I like the poses Steve did in 1:34 and 3:14 . His body is a work of art.
@baaaaaau
7 ай бұрын
Steve Reeves has the most insane chest insertions i have ever seen. Literally just a straight line across, no gap. Truly remarkable
@alysefu7
4 ай бұрын
He was born with a condition pectus excavatum
@baaaaaau
4 ай бұрын
@@alysefu7 does this affect the muscle insertions tho? I have seen many people with the same condition with normally inserted pecs
@PeterSsailing
3 ай бұрын
exa t,y first thing I noticed, eventhough his shape and conditioning was off. Just out of this world insertions for the chest where they meet in the middle. I have been in a lot of gyms, that's extremely rare if not enhanced or some deviant stuff.
@PeterSsailing
3 ай бұрын
LOL pec implant ts sometimes give that result
@josephrock8739
Жыл бұрын
In 87 I met a man who trained track and field athletes weight training, he loved Bodybuilding more though, he was also a retired school head master, he told me he was at that show and I asked him about SR ? He told me he was amazing with great classic lines, symmetry that flowed from every muscle to the next and balanced. I asked him about him looking smooth ? he replied when he contracted the muscle, it and he stood out, he was just the more polished with a great tan as well as being so handsome. In his eyes Steve was the winner 💪🏻
@franciswashack89
Жыл бұрын
I belive if Steve had not lost weight and continued to train from 1949 up until the universe contest in 1950, he would have won that contest by many more points than he had. And as mentioned by this fine video Steve was well liked and was a very nice guy. That being said, Reg Park became legendary in his own right. He was the the bodybuilder who inspired Arnold Swarzenegger. And to this day, whenever I show a picture of Steve Reves to a woman young or old, they all say that he is simply beautiful.
@jmgonzales7701
6 ай бұрын
where was steve really bigger? 40s or during his acting career? tbh even if it was graded down i would like that physique, partly because no mere mortal can look the same as peak steve reeves. I am personally Fond of his toned down physiques such as kimbar (seen in the video) and when he fought primo but even that is kinda big.
@jonathancontreras633
Жыл бұрын
My bet was that Steve had more flow and grace during his posing routine. Vince Gironda said it’s more important how you transition to different poses than the poses itself. Steve had more experience with posing and I would say he was a better poser.
@DiogenesOfCa
Жыл бұрын
Makes sense.
@user-he4ef9br7z
Жыл бұрын
This wasn't exclusive to Steeve Reeves. Even bodybuilders as late as the 80s focused on transitions between poses. It is only in modern bodybuilding we look at static distinct poses rather than an entire fluid continuous posing routine. Look at Bob Paris for example.
@jonathancontreras633
Жыл бұрын
@@user-he4ef9br7z I never said it was only exclusive to reeves
@thispersonrighthere9024
Жыл бұрын
steve had better genetics. steve had lower lats origins. steve didn't have that space between his pecs like reg did. even with a wider waist, steve's shoulder-to-waist ratio still matched reg's. steve wins!
@johnrodriguez6676
Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, Reeves legs were beyond his time!
@Jean-ClaudeLonguepee
3 ай бұрын
Steve Reeves was my favorite bodybuilder and I enjoyed all his movies!
@renedebosscher6669
Ай бұрын
Steve was one of the most handsome men of the era. Joe Weider begged him to enter the first Mr. Olympia and essentially guaranteed that he would win. He was still making movie at the time and was still in excellent shape, but je still declined. I like to believe that he didn't want to enter a rigged contest but it probably was the fact that he would have been close to forty, and not in the same kind of shape as Larry Scott, who won the first two contests. Even if he entered and the contest was fixed, I think it would have been a fitting tribute to the greatest body builder of all time..
@emZee1994
Жыл бұрын
I think Reeves won fairly. You have to remember, back then they didn't only judge your physique based on muscularity and conditioning. They judged based on aesthetics Reeves had better aesthetics, especially for the standards of the time. Park was too lean in the chest and mid section for their liking. And Reeves was wider and had better flow
@aussiecath
Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@Seriouslyfunny1
Жыл бұрын
I agree too
@therustedshank9995
Жыл бұрын
I also agree
@Tijiel
Жыл бұрын
also had a 10/10 face, dude got the whole package!
@strategery101
Жыл бұрын
And lets be honest, he looked like a movie star. That didnt hurt him
@willele
Жыл бұрын
Reeves always in relaxing! Park always in posing!! When Reeves is in posing it's impossible to beat it!
@andrewwelch1040
Жыл бұрын
In 1947 Reeves was spectacular, almost mythical.
@AWiz-lx8lh
3 ай бұрын
Without Looking, Reeves Won Cause of Better Leg Development and An Iconic Individual Legendary Pose. What Separates Most of the Great Bodybuilders From the Pack Is Usually, They Have a Pose that They Created That Is Unique Only to Them and No One Can Compare In Such Pose. Very Few Would Even Attempt Such Pose. Reeves Is Legendary No Matter What Era You Place Him In.
@bulvie603
Жыл бұрын
Back then the goal was symmetry. To sculpture the body in perfect proportion, closely resembling that of a statue of a Greek god. Steve Reeve's was the perfect example. Today the goal is looking like the Hulk.
@peternagy-im4be
Жыл бұрын
Today's clowns are just walking chemical heads dead by 45. Fcking idiots.
@terry_willis
Жыл бұрын
Steve should have won, at least, for having the "best comeback". Anybody who could make such improvements in just 7 weeks deserves it. That's phenomenal. Maybe Grimek was just setting him up to lose to make himself look better.
@bradreid6057
Жыл бұрын
Some good comments below. Note that the NABBA Mr. Universe was a bit more like a beauty pageant in many ways, at least it was later years later. There is a famous story about Sergio Oliva losing there in '71 to Bill Pearl because the judges had competitors stand around so long on stage that Oliva's great pump wore off like a balloon with a small hole in it. In Reeves' case, I recall Reg once opined that he thought one contributor to Reeves' narrow victory was his facial lineaments, how handsome he was. And, Reeves even mentioned it once in a rare taped interview that some liked his "noble" face and that included those wanting to make a film star out of him. I do agree: Reg was in better condition that day in terms of muscular definition. I don't know who I'd have voted for. One last thing: I think Reeves actually weighed 215 to 217 lbs. never 225 lbs. in a contest. Steve held onto his looks and his physique until the very end. He attended an old-timer event, I think he was well into his 60s, and looked like a movie star.
@poksnee
Жыл бұрын
Steve Reeves was more handsome.
@terieffo8
6 ай бұрын
Probably made the difference.
@stevemann1299
4 ай бұрын
Of course it did. How do you Think Elvis became so popular. And V shread can sell crap to people. Beauty sells and influences.
@INFJason
4 ай бұрын
Yup. 100%
@trislifting47
Жыл бұрын
Great video, looked forward to this one. Funny how this is one of your favorite pictures of all time, mine is the "perfection in the clouds". Amazing how both of these men were active so long ago, yet to date have some of the greatest physiques of all time
@donsantiago1
Жыл бұрын
There is no match to Steve. He is archetypical bodybuilder. His proportions are amazing, even if he is not shredded to the bone. His arms have the right lenght, Park looked shorter, so fuller, wide shoulder, slim waist and articulations. He was elegant and aesthetically privileged.
@billschmidt4192
Жыл бұрын
Steve deserved that 1950 Mr. Universe Win.
@paullossois3989
11 ай бұрын
Reg is more jacked but I believe Stave's physique is more balanced
@Magneticlaw
Жыл бұрын
Steve knew through experience what studies have shown about muscle memory. And as with others here in the comments, I'll venture a guess that Steve's posing was the difference maker - Arnold even says that a worse physique with better posing can win a contest.
@glennbishopbishthemagish
Жыл бұрын
Photographs are not what they used to judge a contest. It is a live show. A lot can happen in a live show to sway the judges in a bodybuilding contest. Personality, experience, all play a part in the show that leads to confidence. In my opinion I would say Steve Reeves won simply because he was more experienced. Besides looking the part.
@GVS
Жыл бұрын
Greatest natty recomp of all time
@_Sam62
Жыл бұрын
I don't think so, if something is too good to be true it usually isn't true! “Anabolic steroids were first discovered to promote muscle growth and enhance athletic performance in the 1930s. Since the 1950s, these substances have been used by body builders, athletes, and others to improve performance and enhance cosmetic appearance”.
@squirrellsquats8428
Жыл бұрын
@@_Sam62 You are confusing testosterone and anabolic steroids. Anabolic steroids were first available in 1954 ( Dianabol and Nilavar), four years after Reeves retired from bodybuilding. Testosterone was first used medicinally in the 30’s. Typically it was used to treat older men with depression ( no it wasn’t given to the Nazi’s during the war to turn them into raging killing machines, which was a story made up by a journalist in the 70’s).
@ryanmccomas8573
Жыл бұрын
Test helps 😂
@stevemann1299
4 ай бұрын
@@_Sam62 This is 1950. Steroids hadnt become available in the mainstream yet.
@jeffreylocke8808
Жыл бұрын
Steve Reeves deserved to win the 1950 Mr. Universe. Reg Park was more defined but his body wasn’t as full and flowing as Steve Reeves showed that day.
@tobyfitness6524
5 ай бұрын
HE IS COMPLETE RELAXED!!! REG IS ON A STEADY POSE!!!
@pablowentscobar
Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Love the ol' timey body building vids.
@LeviticusCorwall1899
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video dude, even though reeves has always been my favourite i was confused as how he got the win, great video!
@billschmidt4192
Жыл бұрын
STEVE WAS JUST MORE EVENLY BUILT THEN REG. STEVE HAD A BETTER BONE STRUCTURE THEN REG. STEVE HAD A SMALLER WAIST THEN REG. STEVE JUST LOOKED BETTER. REG HAD A BLOCKIER BODY. STEVE HAD THE BETTER CALVES. AND STEVE HAD THAT UNBELIEVABLE V TAPER- ESPECIALLY WHEN VIEWING HIS BACK. STEVE DESERVED THAT WIN!!!
@samialmaslami2181
3 ай бұрын
Steve was and still the best than reg
@daxmoney5011
Жыл бұрын
Hey with a chest like Steve Reeves I can see why the judges chose him. Edit: Reg won in 51 a year after Steve retired
@bobjenkins4925
Жыл бұрын
Despite looking a little soft, it's a damn miracle he looked as lean as he did having gained 35 pounds in just over 7 weeks, either naturally or with minimal pharmaceutical assistance by modern standards
@pauldavies7251
Жыл бұрын
@prettyBoyIncel😂😂😂😂Ye ok, even with ped's gaining that much "lean" weight is nigh on impossible stop being so naive
@Magnus_Loov
Жыл бұрын
@@pauldavies7251 It wasn't lean weight though. Lets's say you weight 200 pounds at 20% (to make it easy to calculate) which is 40 pounds of fat and you then gain 40 pounds. 8 pounds of these can be fat and you still sit at the same 20% bodyfat that you began at. If he gained a little fat, even less would be lean weight. So maybe only 25 pounds of lean tissue , which is still alot, but not impossible when he had been downtrained and muscle memory kicked in again when he got back.
@ryanmccomas8573
Жыл бұрын
Test helps 😂
@vivalarazausarmyvet4453
Жыл бұрын
I wish someone would do a documentary on how much test these athletes used. There has to be a record of it somewhere since John Grimek kept a record of his experience.
@jmgonzales7701
Жыл бұрын
lol you guys think everything is on peds @@ryanmccomas8573
@voiceinthedesert153
Жыл бұрын
True, whether we agree or not, it was a different metric system and standard back then. We have to consider the context of the era ALWAYS. Much thanks to these amazing figures that pioneered the bodybuilding sport that we enjoy today. Great content btw. Thank you
@firebird7479
Жыл бұрын
The best Reeves ever looked IMO was in the first Hercules movie.
@avoosl
Жыл бұрын
As a great admirer of both Steve and "The Great Jawn" Grimek since ~1960, I long studied the differences from the view of "complete perception." After some time I came up with the notion that, if you saw any of the hundreds of (static) Grimek photographic poses they would be comfortably rated over most all of Reeves's. Nevertheless, after seeing all of Reeves's films (many times) I realized that his kind of physique was best realized IN MOTION. Not in posing transitions, no, but in merely walking or striding or even perfectly ordinary conversational scenes. Most of us grew up with and know Reeves through the movies. Think back to anything in them. When Reeves is in focus nothing else matters, even though his physique would be easily beaten by many at the time of any of those movies from 1960 through the 1970s. So - ultimately, best physique is, and always will be a loose term, and it will be the one who inspired the most fans with the fondest and admired memories from many sources. For me, with, perhaps, greater respect for Grimek in several ways, I nevertheless give the award to Reeves. -- And, thanks for the thought-provoking video.
@LeslieMilligan
Жыл бұрын
In the fifties and sixties bodybuilding was not only judged on muscle mass, but also on symmetry, something Steve had in abundance. Some athletic feat was also required, Seen through today's bodybuilding where muscle mass is god and who cares about symmetry or even life expectancy he was nothing! Reg Park is impressive and went on to become even more so, an incredible bodybuilder with a form that makes his 1950 frame seem chunky, disjointed and very youthful. Reg Park at his best played Hercules, but he didn't draw a stream of young men to our club, but my work was cut out enlisting new members after a Steve Reeves film came to our town. Goliath and the Barbarians drew the most.
@vytas5584
Жыл бұрын
I don't understand. Director: "I want to hire you for your great physique." same Director, next day: "Lose weight." Wtf is going on there?
@vytas5584
Жыл бұрын
@prettyBoyIncel Then why didn’t they hire someone less bulky 😅
@daviddevine1030
2 ай бұрын
Steve Reves is the MAN!!!
@sethgaston8347
2 ай бұрын
0:22 Reg showing why neck training is important
@garrison6863
2 ай бұрын
REEVES SAID THAT NO ONE WAS GOING TO BEAT PARK THE NEXT YEAR. HE WAS RIGHT.
@_Sam62
Жыл бұрын
Steve's proportions are better than Reg's, aesthetically the better man.
@sergiodario58able
Жыл бұрын
Steve Reeves had a more pleasing to the eye physique compared to Reg Park, even if he was a littler softer and smoother than Reg.
@anthonybutt2453
Жыл бұрын
Fascinating & informative. Both looked great.
@bigdaddy2429
9 ай бұрын
Tbh Steve looks more muscular especially legs , back and shoulders. Reg is however leaner so his chest and abs protrude more.
@wynlewis5357
Жыл бұрын
Don't think any other bodybuilder looked quite like Steve Reeves .. there was just that something about his physique that took him to another level. Maybe that's what the judges saw as well in spite of Reg Park being more muscular.
@alwallace4538
Жыл бұрын
Thirty years later there was a similar controversy at the Olympia, when another bodybuilder turned actor made a comeback and won
@tonydefrancisco4928
5 ай бұрын
Reeves was better. Thete were no steroids used in those days. In 1981, I spoke with Reeves on this very subject and wrote anarticle on linked in. Everything said in this video is correct. Reeves and Park were two of the greatest of all time. May they both RIP
@robertmin7233
Жыл бұрын
Steve Reeves still had better proportions and symmetry even if he was a little off that year, his physique was more pleasing to the eye than Reg Park. Steve said in another interview the max weight he got was 217 not 225.
@westoncroye643
Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I think Steve’s physique on this competition was still better than parks. Half the time you can tell reg was flexing his lats to appear wider than reeves. If reeves didn’t take as many breaks, he could have EASILY wipe the floor against Reg. Of course that would also probably mean reeves would continue BBing and would get outclassed by Reg once he got into steroids in the early-mid 50’s. But we only got to see a few pictures and videos in ok lighting and quality from the show. And we didn’t really get to see them do any mandatory poses either so it is only a little bit difficult to tell. Edit: I also will agree that Reg did have better conditioning than reeves as well; however, reeves conditioning still wasn’t terrible either as you can see in some of his posing.
@richardrobles6241
3 ай бұрын
As a Grunt from '66 to '70 (USMC), we used to go down to LA to work out at a high-end Gym. One day, this skinny guy came in (6'0, 175 lbs), and everyone in the gym just stopped their workout and got very quiet. He began a ninety-day workout routine. At the end of ninety days, he had gained 35 lbs and had a Mr. Universe body. Steve Reeves was getting ready to shoot another of his 18 Hercules movies. He had a perfect body; he could squeeze his hand a dozen times and develop forearm muscle.
@51909relapseminem
Жыл бұрын
This was really interesting! I love this channel!
@martinloo9543
Жыл бұрын
Steve Reeves was not as defined or cut as Reg Park but hand better overall muscle symmetry. Reeves had wider shoulders and better shoulder development, he had a better v taper upper body and better leg symmetry. Reeves had great calves, better leg biceps and well developed quadriceps. Reg Park was defined and looked more conditioned but was smaller than what he was famous for. The following year Reg Park won and was much bigger and kept his symmetry. From that point on Reg Park developed muscular size and strength to become a champion and even became a movie star and was casted as Hercules too!
@youhadmeathello165
Жыл бұрын
Steve was chiseled....in the face. There's never been a more handsome man in the last 100 years. That got him the 1 point over Reg. End of story.
@sirreynolds1681
Жыл бұрын
Another great video. Great photos and research
@lazur1
7 ай бұрын
"Young Reg Park": 2yrs younger than (old?) Steve Reeves.
@Mifune41
11 ай бұрын
It’s interesting that some of the judges thought of Reg the way many people view the roided mass monsters of the modern era - too muscular to be aesthetically pleasing.
@willd7582
Жыл бұрын
I dont see much difference between them; Reeves had a better taper, Park slightly better condition. no problem with Reeves superior aesthetics winning
@yippee-ki-yay9925
Жыл бұрын
Agree. There isn't a huge difference, and I think Reeves has better shoulders and frame.
@normanbell-br7nf
Жыл бұрын
Steve looks like Roger Moore with muscles
@fernandomaron87
11 ай бұрын
Funny as he was the producers first choice for the Bond role in Dr No before Connery jumped in.
@anthonycesarano5948
Жыл бұрын
Reeves was more handsome- while his body was not as muscle bound - there was a flowing grace to it like an impala - which I think should be part of Mr Universe - the universe is a big place and not one dimensional - in those days I think there was an element of a male beauty contest. I like it better -
@nicholasmcdaid9143
3 ай бұрын
A rather fair and measured critique of the situation. Although history attests to the fact that promoters and managerial teams often consist of very unscrupulous characters willing to rob clear winners of their appropriate titles. So it wouldn't surprise me if this were the case here. Thieves who play the political game think they’re clever, but any honest person who knows what they’re witnessing will consider them fools who earned the label, having supplanted the right intentions of others and casting disrepute on the sport as a whole. Regardless of whether this was the case, Steve Reeves was a true champion and has rightfully gone down in history as such. Being a bit off on the day could never change this. There is clearly still much admiration for both men, and rightfully so by the sounds of it.
@jabull38
Жыл бұрын
Muscle Memory is a proven fact,I haven't trained for over five years,three months in the gym,three days a week every other day Full body work out,I'm looking like Mr Reeves😊.
@billschmidt4192
Жыл бұрын
Alright! Keep it up.
@TheBcoolGuy
Жыл бұрын
I really can't care enough to be upset about a 73 year old bodybuilding dispute. If anyone who was at that show is still alive today, that person is very old. Reg is definitely closer to more modern standards and looks better to our eye, but remember that bodybuilding is subjective. Those people had a very different view of it.
@scottweaverphotovideo
Жыл бұрын
Great vid. Thanks! I'm trying to remember if it was that competition or another where the guy who lost to Steve said he had won from the neck up.
@Josh_estrada
11 ай бұрын
I don’t know about you guys but these physiques are amazing like now everyone is so muscular and that era it was more better
@ericjohnson9477
Жыл бұрын
One or two pictures doesn't take you back in time Nothing like making yourself an authority on history.
@NattyLifeYT
Жыл бұрын
I guess you didn’t take the time to watch the whole video before commenting
@ericjohnson9477
Жыл бұрын
@@NattyLifeYT The problem with the news and information these days is generalized sweeping statements designed to hit a nerve and draw you in No thanks !
@RWAC685
Жыл бұрын
Because Steve Reeves Is The GREATEST Bodybuilder Of All Time.
@jackvannote
Жыл бұрын
I think so too but let's not get overly carried away, Grsatest NATURAL Bodybuilder of all time. Tge ultimate GOAT of the sport is the One and Only Arnold. who went out on a controversial win like Steve in 1980. The judging has always favored a proven entity over the unknown. Best, Jurassic Jack A Mr Mass Media and Grand Elite Masters Champion
@RWAC685
Жыл бұрын
@@jackvannote True. Commenting on his physique, Schwarzenegger said, “You know I still think that Steve Reeves was the greatest bodybuilder of all time because of the kind of the beauty he had and the body and all that stuff.
@jackvannote
Жыл бұрын
@@RWAC685 Where may I find this quote? I should like to ti see it in context. Are you sure it ends 'and all that stuff" ??? I've known Arnold for almost 60 years. Descriptive ambiguity especally when discussing the body is not his style
@RWAC685
Жыл бұрын
@@jackvannote Google Who Did Arnold Schwarzenegger Say Was The Greatest Bodybuilder Of All Time. I’m Not 100% Sure It’s True, But it Is What It Is.
@fernandomaron87
11 ай бұрын
@@jackvannoteI'm pretty sure ive seen him speaking about this on a Instagram live that he discussed bodybuilding, he said that the core of bodybuilding is having your shirt off at the beach and having girls drooling over you and guys wanting to be like you, and Steve was the perfect example of that
@kennethbrettel8762
9 ай бұрын
Steve was a phenomenon plus the Grimek training plus the Dianabol which works FAST😊
@davidward5225
Жыл бұрын
How did Grimek ever beat Reeves?
@Magnus_Loov
Жыл бұрын
He was much bigger, really massive. Though softer...
@FleetStreetBarber765
5 ай бұрын
I think Steve Reeves could have played Thor if Chris Hemsworth wasn't available at the time.
@corvus9829
4 ай бұрын
Or Superman.
@Gabingus69
Жыл бұрын
Great video idea, thanks man
@AnandDeonarine
Ай бұрын
Muscle maturity.memory something they knew nothing about that time
@frankleeming2905
11 ай бұрын
In those days I was a wrestler and an olympic style weight lifter. I had the pleasure of sharing a dressing room with REG PARKS at an event in Ilkeston Derbyshire England where Reg pressed two 150 lb dumbells overhead whilst in the standing position. This would be about 1948 or 49. I still train at 91 years old. Frank Leeming UK.
@georgewashington7539
Жыл бұрын
After seeing the pictures I think that Steeve Reeves had better legs and arms, his chest a tie with Reg Park. I think that the Reason Reg Park seems much better in certain pictures is because of his abs and his mid-chest line is naturally more defined than Reeves' even though they had the same volume. If Steeve Reeves had had a longer prep time and worked his abs more he would have been a clear winner. I actually think the Judges favored Steeve because they realized how the visual effect that Park's abs had but they noticed how Steeve Reeves's arms and legs were indeed better. If I were one of the judges and were aware of Steeve Reeves's issue due to his acting career and could see both close to one another in person without Reg Park's abs giving such a illusional contrast I would have voted for Steeve Reeves.
@adonvictus
Жыл бұрын
He looks wider too
@georgewashington7539
Жыл бұрын
@@adonvictus yes. Steeve Reeves shoulders were wider
@aussiecath
Жыл бұрын
Back in those days it was about aesthetics so that would help. Now everyone is expected to look like they are taking clenbuterol and the biggest wins.
@strengthandbulkMadness
Жыл бұрын
Steve looked.better posing especially in the lat spreads. Lower quads and upper chest were there too.
@Magnus_Loov
Жыл бұрын
Though it wasn't "Naturally defined" that was the reason. Steeve was clearly much smoother compared to his 1947 win where he was in much, much better shape.
@1manforequality
Жыл бұрын
You would have to be there to actually see their bodies, photos are not 3 dimensional. Furthermore,they do not move. Regardless, there is no way to determine subjectivity or favoritism. How these men attained such mass, remaining fairly defined, is testament to their dedication and desire to be the best builder in the world.
@pomicultorul
Жыл бұрын
thank you for your efforts!
@christopherseat9871
Жыл бұрын
Thankyou for sharing this. ❤🙏💪🏋️♂️♥️
@gregshock
2 ай бұрын
It’s simple. Reeves won the ‘50 Mr U because he had a better physique, even if he wasn’t in top personal best condition.
@nikskou
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, being "sharper, harder or more muscular" as Jon Jon Park says will not save you from an opponent who has overall better proportions. And Steve even at his worst looked like a Michaelangelo sculpture. Including his face, let's not forget that.
@fender1000100
Жыл бұрын
Correct he was more handsome and the perfect specimen to many men and WOMEN. That counts for alot. The same reason Mike Katz could never be Arnold Schwarzenegger 25 years later. He was big but he wasnt handsome enough. And balanced enough..
@stevemann1299
4 ай бұрын
Steeve Reeves was better looking overall. He was destined for big things.
@johnporter6812
Жыл бұрын
I knew someone who saw Reeve's at the 1948 mr universe, not sure about this one ( he has long since passed) to be honest he was never that impressed by Reeve's , he prefered Grimek in 1948 . One thing he did say about Reeve's thought was how good looking he was ,and the attention he got from women ( Reeve's)when using the tube ( London underground ) was incredible. Not everyone at that time would have felt the same way a lot would be down to individual preferences.
@richardlawson6787
Жыл бұрын
Grimek had a blocky body with no abs..never impressed me
@johnporter6812
Жыл бұрын
@@richardlawson6787 if I remember right Grimek trimmed down for that one, His body weight could vary quite a bit. Going back then, Strength was a big thing ,and Grimek was very strong. He was also incredibly flexible again that would have interested the fans at that time. My old coach ,was always interested in that side of things, perhaps not such a divide as there is now.
@mark4lev
11 ай бұрын
No doubt about it reeves was blessed in the looks department,he must be in the 1% percentile, to have a great body AND Hollywood looks
@robertathey8504
Жыл бұрын
I competed many, many years ago. The judges back then looked at the competitors stage presence as well
@rickhoag7491
Жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@FerintoshFarmsPhotography
Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for your 7 week transform. Muscle memory is pretty strong, they'll be popping out like mushrooms after a rain
@exercisetherapy
15 күн бұрын
As a former AAU Physique Judge, my first question before I go any further is 1) what were the judging standards way back then? Were they the same as now? If not what were they? Are we using the standards of today and attempting to apply them to a contest 74 years ago? My guess is that the judging standards have changed. For example the AAU gave equal points to each of the three categories- Muscularity, Symmetry, and Presentation. Think about that for a moment. If I was the biggest guy on the stage but not symmetrical, or not a great poser- I would not win based on those standards. And 2) Observation- the picture in question was in the 1950 Mr. Universe. If you will look at the pictures of Park as he won in 1951- he looked a lot more like Reeves did in 1950.
@SamC_182
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think Reg was definitely also the winner even though I think Steve is the goat
@chrisbrugmans559
Жыл бұрын
Reg clearly looks better by our standards today, but we have to remember judging criteria changes over time. Steve had no part in his chest reg did have a part. and while reg had clearly better legs in the photos we can see that may have been a negative in the judges eyes at the time. Id compare it to when you cross the line of being universally more attractive to women and increasingly are only more attractive to those with a muscle fetish
@reeyees50
Жыл бұрын
Crazy how the standards have changed in only 50+ years
@adairtl
Жыл бұрын
Times were different then in what judges were looking for, so the frame or scope of the times should be taken into account. Plus, while Steve may not have been more defined he was certainly the overall larger of the two.
@docsmithdc
Жыл бұрын
Reeves =what would the average athlete want to look like.Even not at his best he was more angular and "streamlined".Reg looked good but "unfinished".
@kenneth6102
Жыл бұрын
The standards of the older eras definitely differed from nowadays. However, the greatest controversy surrounding this is not even about Park's physiques. It just feels a bit of an insult for dedicated sportsmen that Reeves won a bigger competition with a lesser form of his former glory than Mr America in 1947. If he had stayed in bodybuilding until the Mr Universe win in 1950 and moved onto acting, it would be the epic tale that everyone wanted. The fact that he regained so much in 7 weeks shows how important it is to start exercising young, for protection against immobility in old age. Imagine the difference if you start training for the first time after retirement against regaining the grounds lost to the decades of corporate hamster wheel and raising kids.
@Vitorruy1
7 ай бұрын
Starting later is not a big deal, I saw a strong and jacked 80 year old that started at 55, there's also a jacked and lean brazilian grandma who started lifting with white hair. Don't underestimate the hability of the body to grow.
@kenneth6102
7 ай бұрын
@@Vitorruy1 The best time to start is TODAY, right?
@kentborges5114
Жыл бұрын
The famous Lake Michigan photos were taken BEFORE the contest, I do believe ?
@georgeanastasopoulos5865
Жыл бұрын
I understand what you are saying; I'm looking, and judging it as conditioning that goes to Reg Park. However, if you look closely at the pictures you are going to notice that Steve Reeves is slightly wider; his shoulders appear wider. Anyway, (in italics) it's mostly my opinion.🏋♂
@Charon58
2 ай бұрын
A still photo, not during competition, just may not be indicative of what judges saw
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