Two other notable lifts by the Rplling Stones from that period: Charlie Watts all toms and snare/no cymbals playing on Jumping Jack Flash (inspired by Mo Tucker's approach), and Keith Richards' searing, overloaded guitar solo on Sympathy (inspired by the insanity of Lou Reed's playing on I Heard Her Call My Name)
@reuireuiop0
5 күн бұрын
I thought Charlie's toms and snares on JJ flash were due to the underlaying record being a demo. Should look it up, there must be several clips on yt, which also explain that the main riff was a Bill Wyman thang
@symemoza104
Жыл бұрын
No way they are this old. I've now been listening to em for like a month or so and didn't even know this. Bruh! They are soooo ahead of their time!!
@Bleilock1
6 ай бұрын
Lol bro living under the rock
@WesleyGravolet
3 ай бұрын
Haha..good on you for getting into em but yea man, where ya been? Haha...it's all good! Definitely the andy warhol record is the best record ever written imo....
@symemoza104
3 ай бұрын
@@Bleilock1 Naah! Just not someone from the west!
@MarkSeibold
21 күн бұрын
.... Listening to them for a month or so....? Imagine if you were a teenager back in the mid-1960s, you've been listening to Lou Reed in The Velvet Underground with Nico for over a half a century. But do you remember the early debut of Nico before Lou Reed and Andy Warhol adopted her to the group? Have you ever watched the famous Italian movie, La Dolce Vita? [Released in 1960.] If you haven't seen this, just Google a few scenes of the movie and watch the short excerpts on KZitem.
@fredzep01
8 күн бұрын
Good on you mate, see if you can get your friends into them, if you haven't heard all the VU Lp's, make sure you do. I envy you, I wish I was hearing them for the first time... there's no other band that can touch the VU as far as I'm concerned, then again, maybe Frank Zappa just pips them to the post....
@BoynamedMagnus183
Жыл бұрын
The Rolling Stones more obscure and less successfull than The Velvet Underground,Good One!😂
@DonKelleher
4 күн бұрын
THE VELVET WHO ???
@christy7698
Жыл бұрын
The first time I remember hearing about VU was when I read about The Stones being influenced by them. Apparently, Stray Cat Blues was influenced by Heroin. At first, I thought that they sounded nothing alike. However, I then began to realize that the intro was moderately influenced by it.
@WesleyGravolet
3 ай бұрын
Two very dark songs...
@jonnybarnard8578
Жыл бұрын
Keith used to love heroin but eventually got sick of it. The song i mean.
@WocklessGamingforAnimeMoms
3 ай бұрын
The Velvet Underground and Nico were only tangently related musicians. Most of Nicos Core Classic Solo Material (Her First Four Albums but honestly the entire rest of her discography as a whole) don't really feature her at all. These Days and Frozen Warnings had zero involvement from anyone else from the band for instance save for John Cale who had left already.
@bartvanduijvenbode9952
Жыл бұрын
Love the last sentence, another great short Joe!
@eddietasker9110
Жыл бұрын
The Velvet Underground are the most important musical act since the early rock n rollers. I'd argue they're the most influential band from the 60s onwards. Definitely the best creatively.
@lucashernandez4345
Жыл бұрын
Hmm definitely not. There were the british The Beatles, The Who and The Kinks who easily have the same or more influence/impact than The VU, at least musically.
@eddietasker9110
Жыл бұрын
@@lucashernandez4345 I wouldn't say musically as much so in regards to pop culture.
@raimo7310
Жыл бұрын
The Beatles are just unreachable as fare as overall music produced, but the Velvets' influence Is Just as much as the Beatles'
@Tyler-uo7rf
11 ай бұрын
@@lucashernandez4345nope velvet underground are better than all of those bands no one is influenced by those bands now its all the velvet underground
@morningstar9233
10 ай бұрын
Bowie said as much about the VU too@@Tyler-uo7rf
@fuchsiaswing8545
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure there was an American band more influential on subsequent generations of music than The Velvet Underground. Their outreach was quite remarkable, on top of being hugely subversive and groundbreaking. The only other American band that touches them in terms of impact and influence is The Byrds.
@omegajrz1269
4 ай бұрын
Velvet helped shape modern British music
@Princesslilly12
Жыл бұрын
I wonder what Keith Richards thinks of Coke, the drink I mean.
@loraa3873
6 күн бұрын
Or alcohol, the rubbing kind😂
@ofangelsflipz
6 ай бұрын
Im glad i got into VU in my teens. Great band.
@nvm9040
4 ай бұрын
Brian and Nico was a cool pairing that I wished worked together more musically
@skxlter5747
7 күн бұрын
They were way ahead of their time, like a band from the 90s
@alphajava761
Жыл бұрын
The Rolling Stones changed their sound after 68' which is primarily due to bands like the Velvet's, Stooges and MC5. Many bands changed their sound starting in 68' through 70' based on these 3 bands. The Stones were influenced in more songs than Stray Cat Blues, The Stones had a harder Punk sound from Beggar's to Some Girls.
@MarkSeibold
21 күн бұрын
Also don't forget the influence of Nico. Do you remember seeing her in 1960, in the famous Italian film, La Dolce Vita? [Google search it and watch excerpts from the 1960 movie in KZitem.]
@danieljosephbestguy5990
7 сағат бұрын
@@alphajava761 On Beggars Banquet, the only song to remotely resemble punk is "Stray Cat Blues" which is sometimes classified as proto-punk or proto-metal even, I'd say it's more the latter though. Very influential and revolutionary song for their time though. The only other two songs from the album to have a similar twangy and distorted electric guitar played by Keith Richards in an aggressive manner which Brian Jones could never play even in his earlier heydays though he was good at slide guitar ("I Wanna Be Your Man" is the closest example I can think of), are his solo on "Sympathy for the Devil" and his work on "Parachute Woman" as well which is a very underrated track. Aside from those 3 songs, the album is mostly acoustic, blues and roots rock driven. They really wouldn't get into proper punk until "Some Girls". Everything before that was more rock'n'roll, hard rock or even slightly heavy metal influenced but not much in the early to mid 70s at least on their hardest rocking tracks.
@alphajava761
6 сағат бұрын
@danieljosephbestguy5990 Agreed. The Bakersfield Sound was a big influence on the band from Let It Bleed to Exile on Main Street mainly, of course Some Girls has some of that. I grew up on Country music and it's roots as much as Rock N Roll. On the It's Only Rock N Roll album "If You Can't Rock Me" is very Stooges and the title track to that album has a punk edge to it. The Stones went Rock N Roll, R&B and Funk starting with Goats Head Soup really and never went back to Country or Blues like they did with previous albums. I really love Goats Head Soup and It's Only Rock N Roll albums. I'm primarily a Beggars through Some Girls person with the Stones, but I appreciate their earlier and later stuff as well. Satanic Majesties is a great album too except Mick tried to emulate other singers instead of using his own vocal style, if Mick had just done his own thing vocally it would have been a more popular album, and the name of the album also killed it's potential for popularity.
@vladimirmihajlovic2485
2 ай бұрын
Interesting, listening to Beggars Banquet in the past, I always thought that The Stones must have been influenced by The VU. It's great to get the confirmation
@danieljosephbestguy5990
8 сағат бұрын
The main similarity between "Heroin" and "Stray Cat Blues" as I once read on Wikipedia information and then heard both songs back-to-back is in the guitar intro. Both songs use a similar strumming technique playing the same note and then punch with a high chord albeit playing different notes and in different keys but with similar volume contrast between the strings as well as the method of playing. Keith seems to be playing a really low note on his guitar that isn't the bass which sounds really sinister and murky. The nastiest song on "Beggars Banquet" without a doubt but that's why it's my favourite. The rest of the songs differ greatly though, with "Stray Cat Blues" being an outright rocker which to me sounded akin to something Hendrix would put out, even slightly reminiscent to when The Beatles would do "Helter Skelter" with their most heavy metal attempt on the White Album even though it came out after Beggars Banquet so this song came out first. It also has a Mellotron played by Brian Jones though which gives it a psychedelic edge. Meanwhile, Heroin is a true psychedelic masterpiece of really going through a drug trip as you listen to the whole song straightforward which just becomes outright chaotic as it goes on and the second half is just filled with pure distorted bliss with John Cale's viola against the more calm and laidback sounding guitar Reed plays throughout the whole track aside from the stealthy intro which is one of my favourite intros to a classic rock song that was very underrated which I'm glad the Stones used for an even more heavy and sinister purpose. Another difference factor being that the Velvet Underground's song is in a major key, whereas The Rolling Stones's song is in a minor key which modulates down a tone to a major key in the chorus yet goes high so it really modulates a 7th minor above. Sorry for getting so technical as I've done a degree in Musicology but I was into these two songs right when I started university.
@joenose5042
7 сағат бұрын
Makes sense. Thanks for the technical analysis. I always appreciate it
@shuriflwrs
Жыл бұрын
u the man joe
@dannyhernandez265
10 ай бұрын
My favorite band of all time the VU! 🍌
@SimAlgyaxSaTun
3 ай бұрын
also influential from The Velvet Underground, the sort of acknowledgement that the flower power hippie movement didn't work. The Velvets did it with their debut album and the Stones perfected the sentiment with Gimme Shelter.
@deltabilly1
Ай бұрын
Warhol developed the lips symbol too. More than a passing association. Everyone in NYC who was anyone would have known who the velvets were as they played at Warhol’s loft all the time and Warhol was huge in the underground scene
@Trent_Moorman
Жыл бұрын
Lou Reed is my favorite.
@DeniseGeritis
7 ай бұрын
I do wonder what Keith Richards thought of heroin ……….
@ForARide
7 ай бұрын
Nor do I, but he has just covered Waiting For The Man: kzitem.info/news/bejne/loSZsKqfboaKeKAfeature=shared
@WesleyGravolet
21 күн бұрын
@@DeniseGeritis I heard he never touched the stuff...
@tnekkc
8 күн бұрын
our garage band in 68 playing the D chord covering Heroin
@steveshattah
14 күн бұрын
The Yardbirds with Jimmy Page covered 'waiting for the man' in concert.
@brassteeth3355
12 күн бұрын
They influenced me. It was the first CD I ever bought
@cedricmorelle4354
Жыл бұрын
Vous voulez avoir une petite culture musicale ? Une pièce du puzzle essentielle pour la compréhension du monde musical de la fin des 60' c'est le Velvet !!!😯!! Ligne de basse, batterie, guitare, ect sont de pures merveilles..certainement un bon ingé son, un Warhol qui a eu du 'nez...traitants de sujets décapants..(Proto-Punk) se rendre au concert devait être une sacrée perche !!!🤪😎😎😎😳👍
@CarolineMartin
Жыл бұрын
I figured the stones knew all about heroin way before hearing the velvets
@gwugluud
6 күн бұрын
Creem were regularly doing writeups about The Velvets and The Stooges, centuries before any of it was considered cool.
@xdef1ne
5 ай бұрын
Everyone in the London scene has a copy of the first VU record, it was very popular. Keith Richards said the intro to Stray Cat Blues, the droning sound, was influenced by VU’s Heroin.
@jonathanfreet5333
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, the song, I mean. Hilarious....
@me-pz5yi
5 күн бұрын
😭
@prefectlymuda
Жыл бұрын
Bit of a stretch to call The Rolling Stones obscure…
@alexmalch
Жыл бұрын
That was a joke
@MrTaeBronson
Ай бұрын
id also say sticky fingers is vu influenced. from the andy warhol cover to the druggy sound of the record
@andrewmaccallum2367
2 ай бұрын
THE best band EVER!
@fendered1958
16 күн бұрын
Heroin brought us very close to the way it felt to do heroin
@terenceboris851
7 күн бұрын
producer Tom Wilson pushed to get VU released.
@WocklessGamingforAnimeMoms
3 ай бұрын
This is true though. They also influenced CAN (another influential psych rock band from a couple years later),The Sonic Youth,Nirvana,and Forgotten Woods (one of the more influential 90s Scandinavian Black Metal Bands).
@icydelon
Жыл бұрын
i love this band so muxh
@donlebo6824
7 күн бұрын
Jimmy Page when he was with the Yardbirds got the band into them and they covered "I'm Waiting For The Man". Not a bad cover either.
@mosslawn1
Жыл бұрын
I remember reading that Mj quote many years ago and thinking he just said it because Lou reed was considered hip at the time.
@arkenslay01
Жыл бұрын
great vid!
@jlouis4407
7 ай бұрын
Wow never knew this, the Velvets are the most influential American band ever
@angelcitystudio
3 күн бұрын
Nico was never a real member of the band. Warhol just forced the band to record a few songs with her in exchange for producing their album. She was one of Andy's little pets, like Edie Sedgwick.
@zackzallie8735
Жыл бұрын
Keith stated it was the guitar intro that directly influenced by the Velvets'.
@omegajrz1269
4 ай бұрын
Head Held High ---> She's So Cold
@BlondeonBlonde-demos
Жыл бұрын
The stones less successful? No way
@TheCman183
9 ай бұрын
"The song i mean"
@amosonyoutube
2 ай бұрын
I think keith thought of herion 😂
@steveconn
Жыл бұрын
They influenced like 100 bands, one for every album they sold in the sixties. The Stones were only influenced because they sort of hung out with them.
@amandachenault6373
15 күн бұрын
Nicole looked like billie eilish or vice versa, anyone??
@3000A.D
4 ай бұрын
U could say they literally started alternative rock
@tommasomolinari5726
3 ай бұрын
Less successful friends? The Rolling Stones??? Are you insane?
@lukas3185
9 күн бұрын
"more obscure and less successful friends - the Rolling stones" huh ????
@kcinca5410
4 күн бұрын
totally depends on whether you think the Stones deserve all the hype. I freak people out when I tell them I NOT a fan. I honestly believe there were always better bands out there. I'm not saying they haven't done some great songs but still...
@peternirotkiv1305
9 күн бұрын
The most interessting is they ware all bad af.
@williammanning9535
Жыл бұрын
Hitchhike from RS and “There She Goes Again” literally have the same intro/rhythm 😅😅
@leetorry
Жыл бұрын
But Hitch Hike came before Velvet Underground.
@WowDoodWuuut
2 ай бұрын
@@leetorryIt wasn't even the Stones song anyways. It was a cover but yeah
@DiegoRaffaele-wu2nd
Ай бұрын
....the song, I mean 😁
@deeg8849
Жыл бұрын
Don’t paint it like it was only one way. The velvets were influenced by the stones much earlier then the stones influenced by the velvets. When Brian would be in New York, the whole factory scene were all over him for his swagger, sound and energy.
@tankthelord1178
12 күн бұрын
I am 58, English and to be honest I've never listened to Velvet Underground.... should I ?
@Bubbaburp
3 ай бұрын
Vacuous content. Regret the 10 seconds I listened to.
@djohanson99
9 күн бұрын
No they not. Never listened to them. Take a Walk on the wild side.
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