Full podcast episode: kzitem.info/news/bejne/02qtsoyEsparmI4 Lex Fridman podcast channel: kzitem.info Guest bio: John Mearsheimer is an international relations scholar at University of Chicago. He is one of the most influential and controversial thinkers in the world on the topics of war and power.
@ektran4205
10 ай бұрын
WARS ARE ABOUT EGOS
@lamrof
10 ай бұрын
On the point of the nuclear saber rattling the professor said, China already stated when it comes to Taiwan's independence, the result is a nuclear war with whom ever assists Taiwan in that. So what use does the US saying it would engage en nuclear war serve in this, doesn't make sense what the prof. was saying. The Chinese are basically saying they will burn the world rather than losing Taiwan.
@ektran4205
10 ай бұрын
@@lamrof china is reverting back to their imperialistic ways
@Michorida
8 ай бұрын
@@lamrof China is full of it. Ofcourse they will say that to bully and scare people
@pcsing2006
6 ай бұрын
@@ektran4205That's the stupidest comment ever!
@extrastout1111
10 ай бұрын
Mearsheimer is one of the most highly respected international relations scholars on the planet. Many weight classes above many of these youtube "political scientists" that we usually get. It's a pleasure to see him embrace popular media and hear from him in this format.
@eliasrutten3814
10 ай бұрын
This is not completely true. He's a controversial figure within international relations academia
@jabroni6199
10 ай бұрын
@@eliasrutten3814yep telling the truth is controversial to some folks
@verycalmgamer4090
10 ай бұрын
@@jabroni6199 that goes both ways btw making ur point moot
@jabroni6199
10 ай бұрын
@@verycalmgamer4090you make no sense
@verycalmgamer4090
10 ай бұрын
@@jabroni6199 stay delusional
@000Timothy
10 ай бұрын
I’ve frequented mainland china many times during my trips to Hong Kong (crossing the border to mainland) and after talking to locals from all age groups. When they hear I’m from the UK, they talk very positively. Asking about weather, work, food etc. They don’t really give a crap about our politics, only care about what’s happening in their own country. And yes locals I’ve spoken to, share their disagreements about how the government/local government handles certain issues. So from personal experience of travelling to China for almost 20 years, and speaking to locals about politics, they want peace and don’t see ‘western’ countries as ‘enemies’. In fact they look up to American cultures and European architecture etc. I encourage folks to travel to China, it’s quite an eye opening experience. Especially if you aren’t shy to speak to locals!
@jernejkolar5028
10 ай бұрын
I think most of us "westerns" don't see chinese people as enemies but rather we see their government as one. The problem with China is that it is totalitarian and the sound of a totalitarian regime having the most power scares us, which it should. I don't think I would care about China becoming a new global super power if it was a fair democracy and it's government wouldn't have ill intentios.
@edxlee
10 ай бұрын
unfortunately America views the world through hollywood and stereotypes too much without doing their own research.
@roryshively6646
10 ай бұрын
When were you over there? I heard things started changing around 2015 but thats second hand info
@Sly_cptn
10 ай бұрын
I was there in the 90's. A lot has changed since.
@诗酒趁年华-f6c
10 ай бұрын
中国的学界和與论界不会公开讨论战争,西方每天都在全世界制造,寻找敌人
@lexy6503
9 ай бұрын
As a Chinese, it's hilarious to see how John thinks a slight threat of using nuclear might work. He forgot we were the only country under nuclear threat by both the USSR and the USA in the late 60s. Even at that time, we still wanted to defend our own state sovereignty. Taiwan province is not America's core interest, but it is ours. It's just about seeing both sides' willingness(costs). We don't have as much nuclear as America has, but still, enough for once. We both know each other's capabilities. Bluffing known by both is just trash talk. John grew up during the cold war era. Somehow, I think he is unbelievably naive about Chinese determination.
@viperking6573
10 ай бұрын
basically spheres of influence are like huge tectonic plates, and the people between them where they collide suffer the earthquakes
@Thisnthat979
10 ай бұрын
John, if you don’t speak the language and spend years living in China,every thing you learn is 2nd hand, you talked to a few Chinese in English then you think you understand the majority of Chinese; can you imagine someone doesn’t speak English nor spend time in the States claims himself expert in American politics, strategy, understand thoughts of American?
@will201084
10 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@eggheadegghead
9 ай бұрын
@@will201084wasn’t that called the “armchair expert?” LMAS…..
@tlowe9796
9 ай бұрын
I have watched many John Mearsheimer's speeches and interviews and I have to agree. Though, comparing to other "experts", John is quite right on many factors about China. TBF, he is still an American, looking at things from an American's perspective, hence, he is quite but not 100% spot on.
@Thisnthat979
9 ай бұрын
John's problem is that he sees most countries as simple minded beasts, react base on instincts, eat when they are hungry, try to mate when the mating season comes. But a leader of the country , even he is a dictator can't start a war like a cat suddenly decide to get in fight with another one. When a high profile scholar like John visits China and asks questions in English, people who speaks to him are likely arranged by the government and only spread propaganda supported by the commie, he can't have real conversation if he doesn't speak the language and talk to the real people, reading between the lines and understand what exactly they think. I spend 20+ years in China, speak the language well, have many Chinese friends, not a single Chinese I ever talk to in person (online community is another story) wants to be at war with Taiwan, they don't really care if Taiwan is a separate country or not. They want to visit though. There are many other things John is wrong about China(and other countries), his ignorance is beyond believe. I am not sure what experts you are referring to, but any one who have real insight in Chinese politics speaks Chinese well(better than myself) and spend at least 3 years living there.
@amberjin831
9 ай бұрын
Thank you for pointing out the obvious. The so called “ china experts “ are hilarious sometimes, once in an interview the “ expert “ was asked whether he had been and spent sometime in China and knows the language. His answer was “ I’ve been to taiwan more than a dozen of times.
@testphone8379
10 ай бұрын
I agree with a lot of things John Mearsheimer said, but on the thread of using nuclear weapon on Taiwan toward the Chinese is not smart. This will trigger the Chinese get even closer with Russia and produce more nuclear weapons themselves. The only advantage Americans have is that they have more nuclear war heads. But America is already behind on delivery of missals and defend missal attacks. America is continuously failing the hypersonic missals test, but the Chinese is already designing hypersonic delivery of smaller missals to intercept missal attacks after their success in multiple types of hypersonic delivery vehicles. They are also designing suborbital bomber with initial success. This will make American missal defence system useless. Chinese government will not put up the thread on Taiwan since they deeply believe Taiwan is part of China. If the communist government behaves weak on this matter, they will loose their legitimacy.
@rationalthinker2200
9 ай бұрын
It is not the CCP or The Nationalist Party or Prexident Xi nor The new Political Party " Make China Great Again" Trumps mirror Party in China😅..is the Governing Party in Beijing that desire reunification...It is THE OVERWHELMING desire of the 1.45 Billion Chinese that drives these political Parties to have reunification of Taiwan on top of The Agenda. Any Referendum of the 1.45 Billion Chinese will result in a 99.9% Reunification Result..hopefully by Peacefull negotiations but ultimatedly By Military means if Interference by 3rd Parties or if Taiwanese politicians begins to veer to far towards secession... Hopefully without people like JM who only see US Dorminance and containment of others as its Moral Right because of Ethnic Superiority? With ..the progress of much more powerfull nuclear weapons by every superpower..do we want to end mankind because of an island or Ukraine to please some politicians
@jakemcnamara3414
8 ай бұрын
Your comment lost its legitamacy when you mispelt the word 'lose'
@mintheman7
4 ай бұрын
@@jakemcnamara3414That’s the dumbest response ever. Maybe refrain from intellectual discussion until you can act as an adult
@jakemcnamara3414
4 ай бұрын
@@mintheman7 Why should one enter intellectual discussions with people who are unable to spell basic words 🤷🏻♂️
@mintheman7
4 ай бұрын
@@jakemcnamara3414 Couldn’t understand or articulate geopolitical concept, but keep focus on that spelling, what a winner 🤣
@zhuangdavid5037
9 ай бұрын
American politicians have been practicing so called Monroe doctrine not just South America, but Europe, South Asia as well all the way to China border, including Taiwan. Without abandoning and rethinking on such aggressive and assertive guidelines, US-Chna relations will be difficult.
@zhuangdavid5037
9 ай бұрын
at the same time, US politicians and media like to paint China as an aggressive player, expanding on Tibet, Xinjiang, Taiwan and South China Sea etc, as if China is practicing its own version of "Monroe doctrine", thus gives US reasons to intervene, and provide check on balance. This is just absurd if one to start look at history dimension, one thing US politicians and refuse to do, average American public are not interested at all unless they are put into the situation like flying tigers and their descendants. If Communication can improve relations and reduce negativity and even hostility, US politicians and media have lots of things to work on to reverse their negative narratives on China.
@wyphonema4024
10 ай бұрын
99.9% american never visteded/traveled China.
@Gee-xb7rt
10 ай бұрын
Why travel when the tv tells you they are communist dictators and want to harvest your organs or whatever the flavor of the week it is. The US has very little understanding of E Asia and the Pacific Islands outside of Hello Kitty and Pokémon.
@tommyrq180
10 ай бұрын
And if they did, they’d be shocked and would likely abandon their idealism about the PRC. Authoritarian governments and their supporting authoritarian infrastructure really do make for a different world. I’ve been in many countries and the PRC has evolved from merely authoritarian to emerging totalitarian under Xi. Just my two cents.
@TheWefikus
10 ай бұрын
99.9% of stats in YT comments are more shit than actual shit - Chairman Mao
@apostolostvable
6 ай бұрын
American society is very insular. And purposely. Not hard to find people who dont have a passport and have never even left their own state.
@bananaborealis9515
3 ай бұрын
why would they? they think America is the best place on Earth, ofc they won't come to 'communist' China lmao.
@NickatNite511
9 ай бұрын
By now, I've watched so many clips of this interview, I believe I've watched the full version. This guy is SO interesting
@LifeOfATLS
7 ай бұрын
That’s why I try and only watch one clip so it doesn’t ruin the whole pod for me lol
@wenling3487
10 ай бұрын
I am a Chinese who constantly watch what China and US authorities on their preparations for confrontations for the counter part. I think Chinese strategy for US military confrontation is simple and clear: make sure if war occurs, US military can’t win the war. That’s the best strategy for US military hegemony: US can’t lose a war to another peer competitor, otherwise USA will immediately lose its prestige/influence over other regional powers. Good luck for both side.
@Danny0dbert
10 ай бұрын
If it's all out war I think the states will win. The military is ahead of everyone by a mile. However China has the numbers by quite a bit.
@RobertLim-lb2wb
4 ай бұрын
Us wants to interfere in every other country's affairs big or small Taiwan is just another issue for us to obstruct china's progress us will not die for Taiwan but china will fight to the last American if it intervenes in China's interests it is for us to decide whether they consider it worth while to sacrifice us.personnel and assets to intervene when it happens
@amberjin831
9 ай бұрын
I don’t really know how big Mearsheimer is in China but I do believe him. As someone grew up in mainland and fluent in Chinese and knows Chinese history and culture. A lot of his analysis and way of thinking make perfect sense to Chinese, even the part when he is critical of China. And his depth and frankness which is not a common combo, is what earned him the respect in China, even the criticism. He might not be liked but definitely is to be taken seriously.
@Haijwsyz51846
4 ай бұрын
Using nuclear war to threaten china about reclaim their own territory Taiwan blows my mind. That’s suicidal talk. China now has hypersonic missile that can reach us mainland in 15 minutes. China does not need nukes to destroy the ships in the ocean at all. Professor needs updated memo about Chinese military capabilities.
@colonelmotorov5854
10 ай бұрын
The idea of both US and China building military power further so they will contain each other from doing reckless moves always strikes me as completely schizophrenic. If military power is constantly build up, it's going to explode sooner or later. These exprets think that this is all a competition and strategic containment, but for me it's all pre-WW1 all over again. If the last 10 years have taught us something is that Status Quos and "strategic ambiguities" are going to crumble sooner or later with catastrophic consequences. It's all just increasing tension higher and higher until it blows up. And they should stop counting on Cold War history in my opinion, in which war was avoided. Yes, BARELY AVOIDED.
@7hx89
10 ай бұрын
Arrogance is addictive.
@pengguo4954
10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately we are living in a real world. If one’s country was constantly threatened by battleships at doorstep, what else can you do expect arm you?
@andresgarciacastro1783
3 ай бұрын
China keeps decreasing their spending on defence (as relative to GDP) year after year. The only one's escalating are the US.
@Myth520
10 ай бұрын
I will tell you from a Chinese perspective why China will incorporate TW at any cost: 1, For the emotional reason, as we are the same nation, speak the same language and share the same culture. 2, For the national security reason, TW's geographic location is strategically important to the mainland China . 3, Most importantly, China cost more than 10 million lives of death againsting Japanese brutal invasion during the WW2, and took TW back to motherland. Our ancestors won't agree if we allow TW to announce independence and assist bad guys to contain ourselves. Therefore, China will unite TW sooner or later at all cost, if any outsider wanna stop it, China will fight to the end with no doubt 😊
@What7641
10 ай бұрын
Shouldn't the people in TW have a say? I personally believe in self determination. I think the people of TW should decide their own fate. Not Beijing, not Washington.
@ababababaabaaba2542
10 ай бұрын
@@What7641 Just like how east Urkraine people do?
@What7641
10 ай бұрын
@ababababaabaaba2542 Yes, if they so choose to. The same goes for Ukraine and the EU. If they think that's what is best for themselves, what moral right does anyone else have to make that decision for them.
@@What7641 It should be determined by all Chinese if you wanna talk about democracy.
@thelammas8283
10 ай бұрын
Very simple. Stop picking a fight. Especially one that doesn’t exist, that you are imagining.
@kasuo7039
Ай бұрын
There has never been a time without fights, Im not sure what you are talking about.
@thelammas8283
Ай бұрын
@@kasuo7039 Maybe because you keep on picking fights
@kasuo7039
Ай бұрын
@@thelammas8283 it has little to do with me brother
@thelammas8283
Ай бұрын
@@kasuo7039 True. Apologies. I meant the US
@mintheman7
4 ай бұрын
The problem with rattling the nuclear saber is China also has a nuclear arsenal that can reach the continental US through the North Pole. They are also increasing and modernizing the arsenal quite rapidly. For the sake of humanity, do we really want to go down that path?
@sarscov9854
Ай бұрын
did you watch the clip about mutually assured destruction???
@mintheman7
Ай бұрын
@@sarscov9854 Did you watch and understand this clip?
@be1withthewater
2 ай бұрын
Boy for a realist he sure has an idealistic way of deterring war
@TubeStickOnHand
10 ай бұрын
Lex getting excited about the "Stick".....
@mylesanthony8672
10 ай бұрын
This man is fascinating
@zhuangdavid5037
10 ай бұрын
US and China apparently hold different world views rooted in different civilizations and history. For China, It's belief in holism, balance (harmony) and dynamism from Daoism. For Americans, it's.belief in anti-dualism and activism. These believes shaped their actions and own history on the world stage, may cause frictions or conflicts, but also show the value and importance of learning from each other.
@MaraudersNE
29 күн бұрын
China is causing a lot of friction with those 9 dashed lines. Claiming a huge swatch of the ocean as your territory is not about holism, balance or harmony with most of ASEAN. They need their EEZs to thrive. China wants them out of pride and greed.
@peanutnutter1
10 ай бұрын
See Ray Dalio, This never works indefinitely and always leads to war.
@raginald7mars408
10 ай бұрын
this is about Psycho Paths NOt "Nations" or "people"
@fortusvictus8297
10 ай бұрын
That is a very childish and simple approach that I understand why people take. Because the truth is much darker and far more difficult. These are NOT psychopaths, they are normal people. Psychopaths don't make it this far and are not successful to this level because of the extreme narcissism. There are many things to call it, and why it occurs, but psychopathy is the short easy answer that is also incorrect. This is about idealism vs realism. And realism always results in mass murder because rationally it is always the case the 'math works out' in some cases that war is worth it. It takes an idealist to say war is not worth it.
@octavia7408
10 ай бұрын
@@fortusvictus8297 You got that soo wrong, lol. Psychopaths live longer because they could not care about others and live with less stress than normal people because other's suffering doesn't affect them.
@raginald7mars408
10 ай бұрын
@@fortusvictus8297 this helps what... YOU?
@fortusvictus8297
10 ай бұрын
@@octavia7408 Math and homework are your friend. Read a book sometime about it. There are no shortages of studies on psychopathy because college students find them so interesting only to find out they are not actually that interesting. Or in other words, people THINK they know what psychopathy is but most of that 'knowledge' is made up in their own heads. The actual science doesn't match up with the OP statement or yours.
@user-kj6be8sf3v
10 ай бұрын
@@fortusvictus8297 greedy politicians who rile up wars for profit are definitely psychopaths!
@carmenlajoie2719
10 ай бұрын
State media in 🇨🇳 have excellent journalist's CGTN The Point-Hub-Heat, Einar Tangan-Martin Jacques-Lijinjing. Reporterfy-Cyrus Janssen.
@GentlemanJack705
10 ай бұрын
I'm really looking forward to Vlad Vexler's critique of Mearsheimer's analysis.
@Jake-gy4bk
10 ай бұрын
same here!
@RightSideNews
10 ай бұрын
Same
@yunke927
10 ай бұрын
Some card can only be played once or it will lose the intimidation power. Taiwan is not the core interest of US so the nuclear card won't be played.
@steven1andsteven229
10 ай бұрын
China has just 7 percent of the farmable land of the world. But they are using it to support 20 percent of the population of the world. I think if you want to squeeze something (say, Taiwan or Hong Kong) out of someone's pocket it's not wise to pick a poor guy already desperate.
@henli-rw5dw
10 ай бұрын
But it's increasing since they are greening their desert. They've made great strides in development of agriculture.
@zhuangdavid5037
10 ай бұрын
Taiwan issue is one of the root cause of friction between US.and China. Taiwan returned to China at the end of WWII, at the cost of 30 millions Chinese lives, but many in US either lost such history dimension, or don't want to acknowledge such due to current politics. According to an article from Congress Library, "The Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945) was one of the most destructive conflicts of World War II... This war marked the culmination of growing Japanese aggression toward China since an earlier Sino-Japanese War (1894-1895). With half of China ruined, 20 million Chinese (military and non-military) dead... the eight-year conflict was one of the bloodiest in world history."
@Western_Decline
10 ай бұрын
The Whites know. They don’t care. It’s about hegemony.
@Alverin
10 ай бұрын
Cmon man you can't "return" Taiwan to China the people who live there structure their government completely separately from China. If China want's Taiwan they have to take it, and they have to take it from behind America's back. Good luck.
@netric4011
10 ай бұрын
it's invasion by emperial Japan, not a conflict. Let's be clear.
@alrizo1115
10 ай бұрын
USA is only interested in microchip of tsmc.
@zackwang9314
10 ай бұрын
Nope, taiwan is not the root cause of friction between China and the US. Taiwan is one of the pawns on a chessboard for the US.
@chhuntley5616
10 ай бұрын
"Those you bear'ed forces Were the ones who wore Cross's"
@outerheaven4401
10 ай бұрын
I love this guy. He says in one sentence that the United States has been too aggressive in dealing with Russia, and includes the aggressive expansion of NATO, but then almost in the same breath recommends the US threaten China with a nuclear option if they invade Taiwan. Russia invaded Ukraine. China threatens to invade Taiwan, even promises it, but somehow, America is the aggressive ones. Got to love the experts. lol
@Lkzz279
10 ай бұрын
I always thought the americans were ignorants in geopolitics, this comment confirms it.
@bboystretch7788
10 ай бұрын
dude… get real. the number of wars and deaths committed by the Americans is?///
@outerheaven4401
10 ай бұрын
@@Lkzz279 How so? Elaborate how I’m ignorant, unless you just came here to throw around useless insults.
@sonofyoutube6248
10 ай бұрын
@@outerheaven4401 you are ignorant, and that's fact. 🤷♂🤷♂
@MrColonelexe
10 ай бұрын
1) Taiwan is part of China, you can argue if it’s part of the communist China or not but it’s definitely part of China under civil war. 2) China have emphasized military intervention is last thing they want to do fellow Chinese but they will do it if Taiwan declare independence ,that’s the Sabre rattling game the guest spoke about.
@ANEEAMA
10 ай бұрын
Whatever they try, the hegemony of one emperor is not going to last. Check the history of Roman, Persian, Dutch, British etc.
@michaelprice3040
10 ай бұрын
Do sabres rattle? Wouldn’t that indicate your weapon is faulty?
@tomjones8235
3 ай бұрын
Sabres are stored in their scabbards. They are somewhat loose because you do not want to damage the saber when you pull it out of the scabbard. When you shake the scabbard, the saber rattles in the scabbard. The rattling does not indicate that either the sabre or the scabbard is damaged.
@jrgenjrgensen5987
10 ай бұрын
Mearshimer is the kind of guy who would proudly display the ceasefire agreement he had negotiated with Hitler..
@TheWefikus
10 ай бұрын
Oh yea, make no mistake, there were MANY like him, during that time. It’s just that luckily we still had politicians with an actual spine back then. But yea, he’s the kinda guy who would’ve called to let Germany have all the conquered lands, bar France perhaps. He would’ve conversely, pushed to go all the way with Japan. And it’s very very obvious why.
@jamesmurphy9426
10 ай бұрын
Humans are still thinking like Roman's Conquer vs Conquered
@Pixelarter
10 ай бұрын
Or rather the USA is thinking like Romans. Other countries don't have this exceptionalistic ultra-competitive view of the world. Lots of nations believe they can coexist in peace in a mutualistic relation that is win-win.
@dewinmoonl
10 ай бұрын
westerners think like the romans . . . chinese do not.
@tommyrq180
10 ай бұрын
Thucydides, thought of as the first real historian, commented that nations go to war for “reasons of fear, honor, and interest.” That simple formulation arguably hasn’t been improved for its insight and brevity. Only the wishful thinkers and utopians think you can minimize those Big Three and they interact. Since the beginning of time, the most dangerous animals in the forest were other humans so the impulse to fear others has always been a part of pragmatic security. The “security dilemma” occurs when fear leads nations to imagine (rightly or wrongly) that another nation’s defenses are in fact offensive, meant to invade or otherwise coerce. You would be negligent to not consider the downside risk. Historical examples abound. Love has nothing to do with it, sadly.
@lobo-uh2tb
10 ай бұрын
"For Honor" ? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 🤣 😂😂🤣
@tommyrq180
10 ай бұрын
@@lobo-uh2tb Read a history book. Honor is running all over mankind’s history of war. It’s particularly important with authoritarian leaders. Again, read a book, if that’s not too much to ask. ☮️
@lobo-uh2tb
10 ай бұрын
@@tommyrq180 lol are you a child you cant be so naive 🤦😒, honor is always only the cover for the real reasons
@tommyrq180
10 ай бұрын
@@lobo-uh2tb Wow, I didn’t realize I’d find the one guy who completely understands human behavior on YT!! Brilliant. Brilliant, that is, in how it reveals you. As Bertrand Russell famously quipped, “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.” You, my friend, seem very, very certain of yourself.
@yu-jd5jg
10 ай бұрын
Actually, it is quite simple. Refrain from interfering in China's internal affairs especially UN-recognized China's Taiwan island and supporting China's Separatists which are not negotiable or cards to be played against China
@aquireeverything9382
10 ай бұрын
Our Chinese Allies fled to Taiwan and our government still feels protective. ❤
@user-tk1jj1cp9x4
10 ай бұрын
You sound like a wumao. Maybe you should come here to Taiwan and tell the free and peaceful people of this country they are "separatists" and "non-negotiable cards" to their face.
@jbred00
3 ай бұрын
This guy: "Hitler had a peace deal ready to go with Britain after they took France. Britain walked away from it, causing ww2"
@skeen1207
10 ай бұрын
"I'm a rockstar in China" translation; the CCP finds me a useful idiot.
@anthonypallante4380
10 ай бұрын
Correct. Lol “the chinese are realist to the core”…lol ok. This guy is a paid cuck.
@artonio5887
10 ай бұрын
True, I'm not sure mearsheimer realizes how much of a propaganda tool he has been for Russia and China.
@Optable
10 ай бұрын
I enjoy reading him far more than I enjoy hearing him. Strikes with a huge sense of better than thou
@edcko10
10 ай бұрын
What are you talking about? This guy is as cool as can be
@bottlethrower1544
10 ай бұрын
Cuz he make you feel stooped?
@TheWefikus
10 ай бұрын
Well it works, look at the lemmings that came to his defence instantly lol
@7hx89
10 ай бұрын
Count $34,000,000,000,000 and counting. Empire proud.
@johnforde7735
10 ай бұрын
The problem with Mearsheimer is that he doesn't take personalities into account. Stalin had mental problems and hence that's how he acted and so the USSR. I'm not sure why John doesn't understand this.
@jrgenjrgensen5987
10 ай бұрын
Very true. I’ve never even heard him critizise Putin for anything, which is absurd. I have a lot of respect for Lexs project, but I really don’t know if it’s overall a good idea to give so little push back
@jdg7327
10 ай бұрын
It's not that he doesn't understand. It's his views that doesn't take into account domestic issues. If you actually listen to him you would have known this. Basically it doesn't matter (although it does) who sits on the throne or what's the domestic political climate is.
@OAlemaozinho
9 ай бұрын
In the soviet union, loyalty counted over competence, theres no realism in it
@folag
Ай бұрын
Forget it. Xi Jin Ping knows very well that you'd be merely rattling your sword when you do. Besides, he knows that time is on his side with reference to Taiwan.
@AZ-ge1bz
3 күн бұрын
This man is leaving out some very inconvenient truths to his arguments about the US. The US's so called "roll back" policy that he refers to is because the USSR had a well known expansionist policy.. or to borrow his own terms a "roll through" policy. It took an equal opposing force of roll back to negate a roll through and expand policy. The fact that we did things this way is why there is a North AND South Korea today and not just a North Korea. I hate it when people leave out the USSR's massive penchant for expansion. They were literally flipping Allied countries in 1946 before the dust of WWII had even settled.
@byrondelgado9135
10 ай бұрын
Fear of not existing as a country
@hpmoxie4660
10 ай бұрын
He's full of it when he claims to be rockstar 😂 the list goes on and on including claiming Stalin's a realist and wanting potus to sabre-rattle nuclear weapons like Putin
@theoafman9068
10 ай бұрын
Stalin's a realist is crazy. Him and the politburo were 100% ideologically committed to communist / marxist-leninist rule for the world. In that context, I suppose they were "realist" about the survival of their soviet system and "realist" about expansion (i.e. they can't invade the other superpower to enforce communism on them). He is extremely ignorant in that regard for sure.
@anniebrent7616
9 ай бұрын
well,don't forget that the Chinese have nuclear weapons too.
@7hx89
10 ай бұрын
Candid discussion about this hot topic. I am very disappointed to see that the guest failed to recognize the value of common interests of humankind, especially in this era of potential existential threats. Rather, JM focused sorely on competition, containment and confrontation. In an upcoming financial crisis 2.0, don’t ever hope China to provide trillion $$$ again for the rescue. It there an approach and agreements that are mutually beneficial, not only to both players, but also, many nations in Asia and the world?
@michaelgothenburg364
19 күн бұрын
Just sit down and wait. Close your eyes because there's nothing you can do about that some government school teachers in Henan province didn't get paid for 3 months. Don't search in Chinese on Google and X because then you'll find more provinces including Beijing when government school teachers aren't paid. Just sit down and wait
If a woman wants to leave her husband, but you know that her doing so will result in him becoming violent, what do you do? Tell her she must stay with him no matter how she feels? Tell her you've got her back?
@zackwang9314
10 ай бұрын
The fact you are comparing geopolitics to a relationship cracks me up. 😂
@bowmanencore
10 ай бұрын
Cracks you up, eh? Tossing geology into geopolitics? Well, well...@@zackwang9314
@JosephHoggang-bk4bk
10 ай бұрын
You can avoid war by surrendering
@Allin7days
4 ай бұрын
China fears the US 10 times more than we are of them. China is trying hard to avoid war with the US.
@andresgarciacastro1783
3 ай бұрын
You don't mess with the crazy guy with a gun.
@dariusb1764
9 ай бұрын
I love watching that guy realizing how stupid lex is lol
@Crackle1983
10 ай бұрын
Question. Was Korea and Vietnam an "containment" or "rollback" policy?
@jacobburton7613
10 ай бұрын
Korea was containment until we got greedy and pushed too far North, that's when it turned into a rollback and a quagmire with China being involved. not sure about Vietnam, probably a bit of both as well.
@simonhibbs887
10 ай бұрын
They were containment, to stop Communism taking over those countries. Rollback wasn't about military action, the Bay of Pigs is the only real actual direct attack on an established communist country I can think of. It was about economic and political destabilisation, supporting anti-communist insurgencies, and such.
@paulzhang1310
10 ай бұрын
@@jacobburton7613 the US forces almost defeated N Vietnam until China joined the fight
@7hx89
10 ай бұрын
So China will win again?
@rickyball5165
10 ай бұрын
I dont understand if you love China more than the United States then why wont you move there? Not being mean, just want you to be happy John.😂
@BboyFever
10 ай бұрын
Because despite "having spent alot of time" in China, he doesn't speak a lick of Chinese 🤣🤣
@mr8raves292
10 ай бұрын
Please stop overlapping clips. I listen to all your clips which means listening to the same piece of conversation 3x and then 10 seconds of silence at the end of each. I love the Podcast Lex, but you're the only one doing this and it makes me want to listen less.
@jia7833
10 ай бұрын
No one asks what Taiwaneses want?
@artitkrichphiphat378
3 ай бұрын
Well, I am not so sure the suggestion that US should remind China of nuclear war over Taiwan is helpful. It is actually the very thing that may precipitate a war. The Chinese won’t tolerate the humiliation anymore and will be sure that the US won’t risk the death of 100m+ American from the nuclear war over Taiwan. They may be wrong, but that won’t matter because what they believe will guide their actions. So, most of you, including your family members could died from Nuclear winter as a result of this miscalculation. It is sad to hear this kind of suggestion coming from him.
@alrizo1115
10 ай бұрын
The problem here is not that both countries are getting stronger. It's the mentality of leaders specially the US government. If we get into the next level of human consciousness where we don't see the other as another tribe but a fellow human being, we will live peacefully. We must establish a new UN that isn't controlled by a single nation. This new organization must make sure nobody invades another country and respect it's culture and system. Make the citizens involve, not just leaders so we all have transparency.
@7hx89
10 ай бұрын
From American exceptionalism, to Monroe Doctrine, and global hegemony, the US is leading to nothing but self destruction as many empires did. Why other nations are viewed as enemies, and not trading partners, and helpful neighbours in this planet village? With such a narrow mind, massive arrogance, an addiction of entitlement for everything, and a mindset of winner-takes-ALL, there wont be any global stability but _chaos_ and shooting wars. At the minimum, there are endless fights - racial, social or political - *INTERNAL* conflicts that resemble a new level of civil war.😢
@@PhilCrimminsToo many things are lost in translation, literally and culturally.
@Gooodyoutuber
10 ай бұрын
Clear mind but not a peace lover.
@koverbestintown
10 ай бұрын
dear american, please dont war with china. im still unemployed here lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@sams8502
10 ай бұрын
If they value life as much as we do, deterrence is completely possible
@richardlo4867
9 ай бұрын
I don't agree it's a liberal view of the world. It's an idealistic imperial view of the world where no one can stand in the way of the imperial destiny. That the ideology of the imperium can be (very charitably) described as liberal is beside the point.
@cpaul57
10 ай бұрын
Joe biden isnt thinking, boss
@simonhibbs887
10 ай бұрын
>"Y ou don't respect the power of other nations, you fear it." Does Germany fear the power of France? Does Italy fear the power of the UK? 100 years ago yes, but this dynamic is not inevitable, it requires nations to see international relations as a zero sum game of dog eat dog. It isn't. How much has China suffered from the oppression of the US lead international order over the last 30 years? My wife is Chinese and Ive seen it's spectacular advancement and development with my own eyes. China's foreign policy is not 'realist' except in the narrow sense of Mearsheimer's great power contest Malthusianism. It has the delusion that the leadership of the Communist part made China wealthy, when actually it was the communist party suspending communism and not ruling the economy hardly at all that enabled that growth. They succeeded by simply stopping doing harm. They then messed it up by not intervening when they should have done to cool property markets, and in fact stoked the flames for too long creating a debt bubble. China's foreign policy is utterly disastrous dicing with death. They have utterly alienated every single other country in the entire region through constant, persistent antagonism. Everybody from North Korea, South Korea, Japan, the Phillipines and Vietnam hate their living guts. Even Vietnam is now cosying up to the US, and has hosted good will visits by US carriers twice, because China has been ruthlessly bullying them so much. All these countries are arming up, and co-ordinating with or outright hosting the US military. To understand how badly China has pissed them off, realise that South Korea has actually started military co-operation with Japan. Even 10 years ago that was unthinkable. Th Chinese strategy isn't realism, it's delusional psychosis. I agree we need to understand China, he makes a good point on that, but only because they're so blinded by dogma and ideology that it's very hard to understand what they are thinking.
@questworldmatrix
10 ай бұрын
Reading western propaganda, are we? When you think China is alienating North Korea, that should have sounded the alarm that your sources are garbage.
@hughmungus2760
10 ай бұрын
the fundamental contest between china and the US is the fact that china has 1.4 billion people and will inevitably overtake the US as the dominant economic power. Do you think the US is loved in south america after 200 years of intervention? Chinese 'bullying' doesn't hold a candle to the kind of crap the US did to LatAM during the cold war. The only thing comparable would be the sino-vietnam war. But given that mexico has more or less forgiven the US for annexing its northern half 100 years ago I think china's neighbours would get over their gripes in time too. Countries like South Korea, Japan or the Philippines were ever china's to win over as long as US troops are stationed there. But the fact still stands that none of these countries can ignore china as china is their largest trading partner.
@simonhibbs887
10 ай бұрын
@@hughmungus2760 China overtaking the US economically is only a problem if their interests diverge. They don’t have to diverge. Mearsheimer thinks that all great power interests must always diverge, and always do so militarily. That’s just not true. The US interests font materially diverge from those of Europe. They don’t need to diverge from those of Russia or China. If those countries were liberal democracies, the US could put away the aircraft carriers and get on with grading with them. Russia and China don’t end up in conflict with the USA, Europe and almost everyone else because they are ‘realist’, and such conflicts are inevitable between states, but because they are pathological dictatorships. It’s the logic of their particular political and ideological views that drive this. And yes, the USA has engaged in its own pathological behaviour from time to time, and they were wrong to do so.
@simonhibbs887
10 ай бұрын
@@hughmungus2760 China overtaking the US economically is only a problem if their interests diverge. They don’t have to diverge. Mearsheimer thinks that all great power interests must always diverge, and always do so militarily. That’s just not true. The US interests font materially diverge from those of Europe. They don’t need to diverge from those of Russia or China. If those countries were liberal democracies, the US could put away the aircraft carriers and get on with grading with them. Russia and China don’t end up in conflict with the USA, Europe and almost everyone else because they are ‘realist’, and such conflicts are inevitable between states, but because they are pathological dictatorships. It’s the logic of their particular political and ideological views that drive this. And yes, the USA has engaged in its own pathological behaviour from time to time, and they were wrong to do so.
@davidyu3815
10 ай бұрын
That's bull fking shyt. If you think those Asian countries really hate China, you should go to those Asian countries and talk to the locals there. But I'll tell you which country is really hated (and I'm not talking about the "international community" that America refers to which is actually just biased Western nations and not the actual world). The country that is really hated by the majority of mankind is the United States. It is the most violent country to ever existed anywhere on this entire planet as it's always at war for 222 years out of its 239 existence with less than 20 years of peace. It has 800 military bases worldwide, it has the largest military budget in the world. it has participated in global blackmail, global assassinations, global toppling of democratic governments, installing of dictators, invading & bombing other countries, global sanctioning of other countries, backstabbing allies.....etc. Even AMERICAN VETERANS knew about the misdeeds of the America government, and you don't? The U.S government makes even the ROMAN EMPIRE look like saints. NO OTHER COUNTRY on Earth in human history is ever that violent, save for maybe perhaps the British empire. For you to come over here to preach that nonsense, it's bullshyt. At least make it make sense. But I'm so glad that in this century, America is decline, and this is China' century in which China will surpass the United States. Any country that perform violence for the majority of its existence DOES NOT deserve to be a superpower. This century is as far as your country will go as a declining superpower, no further.
@brandoferg6460
10 ай бұрын
This guy is a shill of shills.
@tteros5998
10 ай бұрын
What kind of whipped loser has a couples photo as their profile picture? Don't answer, I don't care.
@morganwartman8507
10 ай бұрын
Imagine calling Stalin a “realist” 😂😂
@nowie4007
10 ай бұрын
@@morganwartman8507how much do you know about Stalin?
@morganwartman8507
10 ай бұрын
@@nowie4007 he was a brutal genocidal dictator who starved millions of Ukrainians, sent hundreds of thousands of other minorities to slave labor camps (gulags), trusted adolf hitler not to invade the Soviet Union despite hitler literally talking about the entire point of his ideology was to destroy Russia in mein kampf, ruined ties between communist China and the Soviet Union, oppressed Eastern European nations (Poland, hungry, Slovakia, Romania, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia) his entire life.
@zarategabe
10 ай бұрын
@@morganwartman8507many aspects of Stalin's policies were quite realist. He lead the USSR through a brutal war of survival against Nazi Germany. He was forced to modernize the USSR rapidly or face extermination from the West. The Great Purge was horrific for sure but Stalin and company wanted to secure the country against internal conflicts and strife. Was he a good person? No. Was he an effective leader of his time? Yep
@Doggiedogedog
3 ай бұрын
Low view count because people don’t find peace interesting enough
@jasonbutt7199
9 ай бұрын
WW3 and a Supernatural Biblical happen on 12 7 23 and culminates at the Battle of Armageddon on 3 16 24 in Damascus 2nd and 3rd comings
@rms7999
7 ай бұрын
Lex is so cute.
@williambessette5469
9 ай бұрын
Communist is now a Realist? That's the new spin. Wow these pundits are interesting. Stalin a realist? I am not sure history would agree to that description.
@Sirrajj
3 ай бұрын
I disagree with giving even the slightest nuclear threat to china, that would definitely lead to more escalation not backdown, US should focus on growing their own economy on that level instead of poking other fastly developing country just cause they feel threatened
@Lp-ze1tg
10 ай бұрын
Why deescalate?
@will201084
10 ай бұрын
Chinese are realist lmfao he just lost credibility there
@langtonmudzva6202
10 ай бұрын
As an African studying politics, I don't support the USA & China's neocolonialism tactics of their foreign policies. However I truly understand the intimidation & skepticism that China has caused amongst opposite superpowers. I mean! China was one of the poorest countries 40 years ago which is half the age of the current US president. The problem with our leaders is that they choose deceit & cunningness when they make diplomatic relations. There's no American politcian who would give you the dangers of making the USA an ally yet they have a bookful of how dangerous their rival is & at times they punish smaller countries for choosing to be on the opposite side. The same thing happens with those other countries. However the USA is just more aggressive & straight to the point as far their intentions. China is more sleek & have snake like tendencies. The USA would have more universal power if they weren't as arrogant & callous. Militarily they have been shown by less powerful countries that a war doesn't only take money & the best inventory but also courage/patriotism.
@tlowe9796
9 ай бұрын
Please explain to us on China's neocolonialism tactics.
@Moonuuu
4 ай бұрын
This guy is best he didn't do American propogenda like others does.
@shokka3
10 ай бұрын
Trump derangement is fun lol
@mindset4Sucess
10 ай бұрын
Title is named wrong. It should be how does China avoid getting in a war with the US. China should learn from Germany’s ambitions in both world wars.
@tlowe9796
9 ай бұрын
I dont see Chinese warships navigate near US shores like what the US has been doing for years, do you?
@ChikiKaboomkaboom
9 ай бұрын
You must The white saying China invaded japan in ww2 rite 😂😅😂😅
@Alverin
10 ай бұрын
5:26 "Where's that from? Why can't we respect the power of other nations?" I feel the question is answered in and of itself Lex. We can't respect the power of other nations because there wasn't enough power to respect. The Soviet Union wasn't powerful enough to hold it's country together. Today Xi and Putin are working very hard behind the scenes to create extremists in the US. We stand today because we chose a model of government that has been and still is fairly resilient to that sort of pressure. Xi an Putin "respect" our power because it's there, when they push they feel the brick wall that is the United States. When we pushed, the Berlin Wall came down, then the Soviet Union. And now Russia is coming down again because they pushed too hard and tripped. Anyways, the point is, that's the US's business. Once the US realized it was POSSIBLE to exert influence over the entire world, they realized that was a POWER that had to be very closely guarded and very carefully exercised. That's why the US hasn't directly invaded Cuba and taken it over. Because the US doesn't want to invade a bunch of countries across the globe and claim a new world order, they'd rather make up a bunch of rules and suggest everyone who doesn't want war with their neighbors follow along, and it's worked whether you want to admit it or not. Bring up a million examples but none of them are WWIII. The global deathrate due to war and violence has been plummeting since WWII so go figure. When you have someone in charge who wants peace and is serious about it, we get technological advancements unlike the world has ever seen, globalization and unprecedented world peace. Now that technology and wealth is being leveraged by countries like China to assert themselves as a "multi-polar" power. No way. China's gunna stay right where it's at.
@ksc9856
10 ай бұрын
America may not want a nuclear war with China, but to say America wants peace... America wants peace on its own turf, but will do whatever it takes to stay in power, even wars, especially wars. You don't need to go back very far in history to realize that. I guess in your ideal world everybody on earth should just be America's loyal subordinate and there will be world peace. Yet these days, America itself is becoming more and more divided. The world is changing fast, America better take care of itself while not making too many enemies abroad, especially those who own ICBMs.
What globalization you are telling about? And peace? Are you living in a parallel universe, or in 2023?
@Alverin
10 ай бұрын
@@7hx89 @7hx89 Uuuhh, if you live in the US nearly everything is made in China. Almost all populations sizes are sustained on imported fertilizer so they can grow their food. Imported oil for power. You don't think we've globalized since the 1950's? Also this is the most peaceful era of human history, the data is there, just go look at the amount of worldwide violent deaths per year. It's been going down since WWII and it's the lowest it's been in human history. Our population is the biggest it's ever been. People are living the longest they ever have. The world's not perfect, but compared to 1940-1950, or any other time period for that matter, we're living really well, collectively speaking.
@gj1234567899999
10 ай бұрын
This man thinks realism means giving China and Russia whatever they want and just pussying out. Realism also means realizing “our side” has a lot of strength too. If China invaded Taiwan, that would be hard fighting even if Taiwan was alone. However if that were to happen the US would help, and so would Japan and Australia. This is a very formidable opponent for China. Places like EU, India, and even Vietnam would not side with China and help Taiwan perhaps not militarily but diplomatically and economically. Trade with other countries would dry up. I feel it’s actually mersheimer not being realistic.
@extrastout1111
10 ай бұрын
when did Mearsheimer say to pussy out?
@extrastout1111
10 ай бұрын
mearsheimer thinks like a tactician. you think like a man in a drunk bar fight
@gj1234567899999
10 ай бұрын
@@extrastout1111 give your opponent everything they ask for - You and Mersheimer. Brilliant. You and him probably get scammed buying cars too. Pay full sticker price.
@paulzhang1310
10 ай бұрын
@gj1234567899999 no country wants to have a war with China over Taiwan ..... the US may try to give Taiwan some weapons but how ?....
@gj1234567899999
10 ай бұрын
@@paulzhang1310 China exports 1 trillion dollars to the U.S. and its allies. That disappears overnight if China invades Taiwan. Trading with African countries and Russia won’t make up for that. Does China want to sacrifice all its economic gains just for Taiwan? Not even counting thousand of troops and destroyed ships and planes which will certainly occur? Lots of weapons could also get smuggled into Tibet and xinjiang to further give China problems. It seems a lot of trouble for China. However if they want to squander all that for Taiwan it shows they are rather the stupid ones.
@Don_key_King
10 ай бұрын
Lex: "Why can't we respect the other great powers"? What a childish question makes Mearsheimer laugh. Respect China, do you have any guarantee China will pay back more respect? What if China becomes more powerful, and try to Contain the USA, dismantle all the USA's alliances, either economic, military, political then dictates its terms on you? You cannot trust! Game theory/ Prisinor dilemma read bro.
@Pixelarter
10 ай бұрын
One thing is being defensive and developing means to (if necessary) contain eventual hostilities. "Mind your business, develop good relations to have alies, and if a bully comes to get you, be prepared to beat his ass". Another is intervening in other nations business to sabotage them or make them weaker. Like the US has been doing in Taiwan with China (or the plethora of other interventions it has done before around the world), and the US absurd sanctions to undermine technological competition, which is intrusive, disrespectful, and can provoke wars.
@7hx89
10 ай бұрын
Groundless arrogance. Remember to pay your taxes so that walls can be built.
@Don_key_King
10 ай бұрын
@7hx89 wow there is someone clever enough who is not paying tax!! But wait blatant delusional dude, you may still not find out but we societies/human kind made a social contract to create a Lewiethan (go and read Tomas Hobbes, Ressou, instead after watching 5 mins videos on youtube being master of universe and knowing all) to pay tax for thousands year ago. Wake up! Groundless? This Mearsheimer, he is hard-core realists. What is political realism? One of the major school of thought in the Politics and International Relations. And when it comes to the great power politics realism is the Holly Book! Start from Pheloponosian wars, Thuciydides : "It was the rise of Athens and the fear that this instilled in Sparta that made war inevitable" we call it "Thucydides trap". And then do some research you will find how many times this observation proved itself in the course of history. Last happened between the British empire and the Germans and costed 2 World War to the humanity. Maybe after then, you might find a ground for your ignorance and start developing an understanding of your surroundings. Thuciydides Trap Game theory in politics Prisinor Dilemma.. Neither China trust the USA nor the USA trusts China, simply they cannot, how one can be make sure of the others' intention? This is not because l want it or not, only because of reality of the great power politics, obviously you don't even listen the videos which are the source ot your high supreme intelligence...
@pedrothewise2584
3 ай бұрын
easy back off.
@carmenlajoie2719
10 ай бұрын
State media in 🇨🇳 have excellent journalist's CGTN The Point-Hub-Heat, Einar Tangan-Martin Jacques-Lijinjing. Reporterfy-Cyrus Janssen.
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