the hair cap was the best touch! 😂 ..would definitely be cool to see a Hydrogen Powered Humvee 😎
@josephoduor2358
Жыл бұрын
You took the words right out of my mouth. I saw the cap and started asking myself, "Why?"
@ffktrc
Жыл бұрын
Hydrogen is HIGHLY explosive. That's a GREAT idea on a battlefield... if you're really want to lose.
@ClanChapman1rRS
Жыл бұрын
Arnold Schwarzenegger has a hydrogen hummer. He had it built when he was Governor of California.
@johncs154
Жыл бұрын
He's missing the mustache and beard cover lol
@laserlemons1577
Жыл бұрын
@@johncs154 For some reason all the clean room jobs I've had required hair nets even if you're bald but don't require beard nets if you're face is shaved.
@WHATSINSIDEFAMILY
Жыл бұрын
Interesting tech! More Jerry in lab coat videos pls
@TheOnlyName
Жыл бұрын
mm yes please
@Not_Honk_13
Жыл бұрын
Hi
@lucasarcanjo887
Жыл бұрын
But does it scratch at level 6, with deeper grooves at level 7?
@Jawd3544
Жыл бұрын
We need the bend test
@arunchandran5081
Жыл бұрын
😂😂super
@enzo39472
Жыл бұрын
Brasileiro é foda kkkkk
@chainsaw_dog
Жыл бұрын
Flame test would lit🔥
@AdemOmerovicBA
Жыл бұрын
For sure it wouldn't pass the flame test 😅🎉
@ericcamilia5390
Жыл бұрын
Hey Zack, this is the most clear and understandable hydrogen fuel cell video I have ever watched. Thanks.
@JerryRigEverything
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@HydrogenFuelTechnologies
Жыл бұрын
@@JerryRigEverything thanks for the video
@HydrogenFuelTechnologies
Жыл бұрын
@@JerryRigEverythingI hope you do more hydrogen videos
@HydrogenFuelTechnologies
Жыл бұрын
@@JerryRigEverythingmy hydrogen videos 📹 are a bit out of this world 🌎 too 😅
@harnageaa
Жыл бұрын
@@HydrogenFuelTechnologies lol you are a real person
@timvandijknl
Жыл бұрын
So... basically this is a true hybrid in the sense of the word. It uses a form of fuel to generate electricity, which then moves the vehicle. You get the benefits of an electric drivetrain (instant torque, consistent power output, low maintenance) but without the range restrictions, as fueling up the hydrogen cells is a lot quicker than charging a batterypack. I like it.
@Shigles
Жыл бұрын
battery rotor in place of engine and 2 generators(thu convertion )) this truck will drive forever
@Dat_Sun
Жыл бұрын
Extremely expensive, we're talking millions of dollars for a fuel cell, Rare Earth minerals that we do not have enough of to make this happen on mass. + Trucking companies can't keep thieves from stealing computer modules from freightliners, People can't keep catalytic converters on their vehicles and you think a multi million dollar fuel cell hydrogen vehicle is a good idea? This same exact technology has been failing over and over for a 100 years now, it's nothing new, it's the same played out sham for tax cattle dollars every single time. I remember in the eighties some guy made a Mayo jar hydrogen bubbler dune buggy, nothing mysterious about it but it made the newspapers and everyone thought big oil killed him off lol. This is 6th grade elementary school science fair technology. What's missing here is nobody is talking about the negatives of hydrogen powered transportation. Both burning it directly through an internal combustion engine or using a fuel cell both have serious limitations which were not touched on in the video.
@carnsoaks1
Жыл бұрын
Toyota been trying for years and failing. This won't be any better.
@Poxenium
Жыл бұрын
That is false. You waste ~66% of the energy, it has really high maintenance, takes oxygen from the air, it's really hard to fill your tanks to 100%, because of the high pressure...etc... IT'S a SCAM.
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
Hydrogen isn't "fuel" it's a "storage medium" ..... A Battery. It's just a hugely inefficient one. The "must have huge range" mantra is a misconception (I could call it something else) . Truck outranges driver. Truck charges during driver rest period. Truck outranges driver to end of day. Slow charge overnight. Repeat. Is all that's needed.
@GrandPotatoe
Жыл бұрын
These are probably my favorite segment of the JerryRig series.
@JerryRigEverything
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
@@JerryRigEverything Sun to wheels cost analysis required.... The complete system, not just "here's the hydrogen in the tank" False promises.
@ron200088
Жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 I agree. The cost and the sustainability of such a technological endeavor would be nice to know. Not denying, looks promising, but the video barely scratches the surface. Good to know at least that such technologies are in constant development.
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
@@ron200088 My point being it's horrendously inefficient IF you look at the whole system. It's the same thing that happens with EV vs Fossil fuel. They never account properly for the "Well to wheel" cost of oil based fuels, but always give us the "Ooooo! What about all that electricity??" Well, Hydrogen needing 3 times the grid energy for similar distance MUST be accounted for.
@ron200088
Жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 Agreed ! Even though as Zack also mentions, the technology has improved and it’s still improving, it is still a long way away from being efficient and actually being a sustainable way of reducing CO2 emissions. Not denying that it’s a step forward in the right way, but it is definitely not there yet. Of course, it looks cool and all and the less tech savvy people might think as in the case of the electric vehicles, that it is already efficient and sustainable, but that could not be further from the truth. In my opinion, we are decades away from having such technologies being efficient and sustainable. Let’s be honest, as long as there are fossil fuels out there and there is a lot of money to be made, such technologies are more or less a curtain of smoke. And until they become affordable and sustainable for the majority, it all looks good on paper, but in reality it will remain a niche segment for the select few.
@AniketTurkel
Жыл бұрын
Loved the concept of using fuel cells in trucks. And Zach was being very clear in explaining how the fuel cell works. Would love to see a day when this is actually commercially used in vehicles.
@bnkh
Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket The problem is that producing and gathering hydrogen uses at this time uses more energy than you can get out of it so its not currently worth using until it gets cheaper.
@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936
Жыл бұрын
@@bnkh The latest and greatest of nuclear power plants has been introduced that theoretically can isolate hydrogen on the cheap, at the same time as producing energy via steam generation, and no meltdown or thermal runaway issues.
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
@@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 Come back when it's more than "a theory" and they actually BUILD those plants, build enough of them, and get the energy cost down to that of renewables. Then you MIGHT have a case. But since they're not ready and current builds take far too long, are 3 times the cost of even offshore wind to build and the energy is 2.5 times the price, I think it's going to be a while.
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket How is a battery toxic when it produces zero pollution over its multi decade use life and can be 98% recycled (no, they don't and won't go to landfill.....) In fact that they're worth recycling will mean that the batteries from your old phone, power tools, etc which probably DO go to landfill now, will be worth collecting to throw onto the same grinder they use to begin the separation process.
@mjc0961
Жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 It's funny to me how the world managed to solve lead acid battery recycling, but so many people don't think that battery recycling for other battery technology can be solved.
@galgrunfeld9954
Жыл бұрын
The vehicle videos lately have been really interesting IMO, would love more!
@acanvil
Жыл бұрын
I wonder why they made you use a hair mesh? 👀 Love your videos!
@grantandre79
Жыл бұрын
Really great to see and understand what’s happening inside the stack! When something like that is commercially (or, privately) available you should absolutely make a hydrogen HUMVEE. The build process would be fascinating to watch.
@americansmark
Жыл бұрын
You can buy one already. I forget the company name, but there is one that converts Hummers and HMMWV trucks to hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. I'm sure it isn't cheap, but it'd be awesome to own.
@mo_mo1995
Жыл бұрын
Can you harness the cooling power of expanding hydrogen to power some air conditioning or refrigeration system? That sounds like a lot of cooling power wasted.
@Dat_Sun
Жыл бұрын
Hey Jerry, why is there so many accounts with inappropriate names and advertising for p*** in their description getting unbelievable amount of likes almost instantly here in the comments? Are you Jerry rigging your comment section for likes?
@Dat_Sun
Жыл бұрын
Momo, no that would not be practical at all. You would be using up far more hydrogen from the cylinder than is required for an ice engine or fuel cell.
@leledumbo
Жыл бұрын
Still as complex as combustion engine, I can see why the industry is NOT moving this way.
@__shaun__
Жыл бұрын
more complex! and consumes platinum. this tech has been around for decades and hasn't improved in any meaningful way or been deployed at scale because it can't and isn't economically viable. it's even worse when you consider energy inefficiency losses and leaks weight and cost of a safe tank is the final nail in the coffin
@MrEazyE357
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that we don't even have enough platinum reserves to scale this up in any meaningful way.
@ryoukokonpaku1575
Жыл бұрын
@@MrEazyE357 There's newer catalysts now that uses carbon coated nickle which only has comparable efficiency which is much cheaper and common too.
@fireWireX4
Жыл бұрын
So what's better? A large semi with a 60,000 kg weight limit and 10,000kg is just pure battery???those batteries weigh A LOT!!!!
@__shaun__
Жыл бұрын
@@fireWireX4 Tesla Semi is only approx 10% heavier than a diesel semi. Hydrogen will be somewhere between the two. Lithium is better due to higher efficiency and lower operating costs.
@DigitalHDx
Жыл бұрын
Got to see and learn about the first electric semi truck every registered in New York State. Peterbilt truck in Syracuse, NY operating out of a FedEx facility. It was very cool and awesome to hear how quiet it is. And how quick, they did a demonstration of the instant torque and I was impressed.
@TheOnlyName
Жыл бұрын
Nice to hear! I wish there were more electric semi trucks here. Maybe even some Tesla semis...
@GiesbertNijhuis
Жыл бұрын
A fuel cell and a big battery... thus a hybrid. What about replacing all that complex fuel cell by more battery. Simpler, and then you can charge directly on solar electricity! No more need to transport that difficult hydrogen gas. Batteries will probably get better, more energy dense. Can we expect the whole hydrogen fuel cell to get much better?
@Simon-dm8zv
Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@liambohl
Жыл бұрын
This is some pretty cool and important technology. Thanks for sharing it with us! That said, the best way to reduce emissions from transportation is to reduce how much people need to drive in the first place.
@Nick-HBC
Жыл бұрын
It’s awesome how you insert yourself into the process. Instead of you filming someone else doing it and explaining the process YOU get to do it and show us. Cool!
@Alexk77777
Жыл бұрын
Amazing video and interesting technology!
@Dat_Sun
Жыл бұрын
It's old as dirt technology that fails in the same way over and over again. The only thing hydrogen vehicles have ever done is make a limited amount of people very wealthy off of tax cattle funding. Once you realize hydrogen is not an energy source you will see this scam clear as day. Jerry should be embarrassed for even suggesting this is a good idea and will not reply to inconvenient comments such as the ones I am leaving.
@LashanR
Жыл бұрын
This is really cool, and I've learnt a lot about how a fuel cell actually works, super interesting! The platinum catalyst is a concern though. Platinum is extremely rare, and I did some calculations - if you were to take all of the world's platinum reserves and turn them into these Hydrotec cubes, they would generate 3.09 gigawatts of power, which would be about 0.067% of the world's energy consumption by vehicles. Even if I was way off in my calculations it's still miniscule. Unless if a different catalyst is found this isn't really viable.
@MarkEichin
Жыл бұрын
Was the enough information in the video to tell what fraction of the ink is actually platinum? (I'm a little surprised that it's still the best choice, but chemistry is like that sometimes - the science-fair-project fuel cell I built 40 years ago used a very low fraction suspension of platinum painted on to a nickel screen for the electrode.) There is probably still some room to improve since the only place where the platinum is useful is on the surface where the reaction occurs...
@ryoukokonpaku1575
Жыл бұрын
Thankfully there's newer research on alternatives for the catalyst. One promising one is carbon coated Nickle which has almost the same efficiency as Platinum without the same price tag.
@DafterHindi
Жыл бұрын
i hope they find other catalysts soon
@jimurrata6785
Жыл бұрын
It's not as if almost every vehicle on the road isn't mandated to have a catalytic converter, that uses platinum, palladium and rhodium already.... Fuel cell vehicles are a stupid waste of energy (IMO) but your argument falls flat on its face.
@DafterHindi
Жыл бұрын
@@jimurrata6785 why do combustion engines need those metals?
@EvilScientist
Жыл бұрын
glad to see some actual advancements being made for semis instead of cgi marketing bullshit that does nothing
@navdeepsingh3508
Жыл бұрын
*ahem ahem* musky waters
@vskrand
Жыл бұрын
@@navdeepsingh3508 Musk's semi literally rolled down with gravity from a hill, he couldn't even be bothered to make a cgi ad
@_aullik
Жыл бұрын
There have been hydrogen trucks for a while. Mercedes made one a while ago. The problem is that hydrogen simply makes no sense economically. The fuel cells are extremely expensive (platinum) and don't last too long. The efficiency is bad and the fuel itself is also expensive. hydrogen has ~33.33 kWh/kg with an efficiency of ~50%. Diesel has 10.7 kWh/l with an efficiency of ~30% for trucks. That means 1kg of hydrogen gives you as much range as ~5l of diesel. This truck has 60kg of hydrogen which is equivalent to ~311L of diesel or ~82 gallon. That is not a lot of range for a truck.
@MrArcticPOWER
Жыл бұрын
I havent' seen much advancements in this video, this is decades old technologies. All I saw is an incredibly complicated EV truck with huge underpowered and expensive fuel cells, a 200kWh battery and a cab filled with insanely expensive carbon fiber tanks that are good for at most 500 miles. I don't think musk's truck is any better, but this video is misleading at best.
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
@@MrArcticPOWER You're on the money.
@zodiacfml
Жыл бұрын
you start with an electric semi truck to make a hydrogen fuel cell truck. I think Tesla Semi electric truck is the most optimal, they crammed 900kwh into the thing so that it gets massive regenerative braking. Strong regen braking is crucial for Semis reduce brake fade/failure and so is to reduce maintenance of the brakes, also to charge batteries when braking or going down hill. Making a good hydrogen truck might to need start with at least 600kwh of batteries, but at this point, you just make an electric truck.
@miguel727_OG
Жыл бұрын
Hi Jerry, great video! Not sure if someone already commented but it will be interesting to know the costs of using this technology compared to standard ICE and electric motors
@joelimbergamo639
Жыл бұрын
For now Hydrogen technology and Hydrogen itself is more expensive as its a relly niche market. But compared to battery powered, for trucks hydrogen makes more sense
@eDoc2020
Жыл бұрын
@@joelimbergamo639 Most commercially available hydrogen gas is "blue" hydrogen, being a byproduct of fossil fuel production. "Green" hydrogen created from electrolysis is more expensive. The big downside of green hydrogen is once you take electricity, use it to produce hydrogen, and use a fuel cell to get electricity back out you have lost most of the energy. Batteries are just much more efficient.
@joelimbergamo639
Жыл бұрын
@@eDoc2020 agreed. But for big boats and plains batteries arent an option. And for trucks its at the limit . I know that hydrogen is supper inefficient when you consider all the process but its the best way to store energy in a weight-efficient manner we have rn. When weight osnt a big concern batteries are clearly the better option but in vehicles at some point it starts counting
@ironicgoose9913
Жыл бұрын
Tesla Semi will wipe the floor with this hydrogen nonsense. In commercial world running cost is everything, and since every hydrogen vehicle requires about 3 times more electricity than normal EV truck, this will never see the light of day. And yes, hydrogen fuel stations still do not exist
@HRM.H
Жыл бұрын
A company near me just went bankrupt trying to get into hydrogen trucking. Its too early.
@santeenl
Жыл бұрын
Nikola? 😂
@HRM.H
Жыл бұрын
@@santeenl nee, Hyzon Holthausen. Er zijn talloze waterstof vrachtwagen fabrikanten falliet gegaan in de laatste 2 jaren. Ze doen veel promotie en maken grote beloftes om investeerders aan te trekken, maar er komt uiteindelijk niets van terecht.
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
It will NEVER be the right time.
@De4dSp0t
Жыл бұрын
Jerry, please stop trying to do science related videos. Especially on these scam products....There is a reason hydrogen is never going to be in every day vehicles and it's an extremally simple reason if you know literally anything about chemistry and the properties of Hydrogen.
@l.rod2827
Жыл бұрын
Great tech, just worry about the 6 10K PSI tanks when involved in an accident. I've read that these tanks are very robust however they can become an issue. Nonetheless, great tech!
@miasinterestinglife
Жыл бұрын
As far as I understood it, in case there was an accident, that hydrogen would be gone into the upper parts of the atmosphere before anything serious could happen
@colingoldthorpe5918
Жыл бұрын
@@miasinterestinglife The Hydrogen would explode and catch fire, it's a flammable Gas so one source of ignition and up it goes. It is also a colourless flame that typically can only be seen with a thermal image camera. H2 is a fire fighters nightmare ask any of them.
@phalanx3803
Жыл бұрын
@@miasinterestinglife exactly it doesn't hang around like petrol fumes even on a calm day hydrogen doesn't want to hang around.
@ryoukokonpaku1575
Жыл бұрын
@@phalanx3803 Yep, Toyota's mirai hydrogen car was crash tested as well as fire tested. On the fire test it basically vented all the hydrogen straight up the atmosphere since they're lighter than air, it was basically a blowtorch flame that died out after the fuel got expended than an explosion. They also tested shooting the tank with a 60 cal rifle and it did the same, it vented the gas than blowing up.
@77bigbonez
Жыл бұрын
I would also like more info on this. Seems weird to have 6 large grenades behind me as I drive down the highway.
@mr.bigmangames
Жыл бұрын
This brings us to an issue during winter or in sub zero climate places. What do we do with water? You have to collect it so that it wouldnt make ice on a road. Second issue how make weather not to destroy the pipes and stuff because of it freezing and last issue is the danger of a highly cpompressed gas tanks exploading. Propane car accident are very very dangerous. What wil happen with hydrogen?
@Hunter116
Жыл бұрын
Zack wearing that hair net... 🤣🤣🤣
@markreed9853
Жыл бұрын
Hydrogen sounds great but you need 18x the amount of tankers to deliver the same amount of fuel to travel the same distance as an ICE truck - its not going to be viable in a big way unless you can get electricity for free and fuel up near where its made - search Prof David Cebon if you don't agree!
@CameronVanNatta
Жыл бұрын
I'm curious how a hydrogen semi handles crashes compared to lithium ion and diesel. My intuition would be that the rapid decompression would be very damaging.
@adfjasjhf
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see some comparison
@minergate4066
Жыл бұрын
10 000 psi would make a nice fireball
@andrewk8636
Жыл бұрын
It'll blow up like crazy. Diesel doesn't explode unless it's superheated and gas piwer cars have much smaller tanks. Hydrogen on the other hand... hindenburg
@platin2148
Жыл бұрын
It actually doesn’t blow up at all it is pretty quickly evaporated and that’s it. Explosion’s are extremely unlikely as you need to first ignite it and it would also only burn on the part which was punctured. As it requires Oxygen to burn and there isn’t any in the tank there isn’t really a huge risk. There i would be more concerned about the explosion of a battery.
@andrewk8636
Жыл бұрын
@@platin2148 you forgot the part where it's under pressure
@ksk88kang
Жыл бұрын
I took a Hydrogen Systems class and on the first day of the class professor herself told us that there is no future of hydrogen systems because hydrogen is very hard to extract from the environment.
@markkirui8348
Жыл бұрын
i like the new channel diversity
@awo1fman
Жыл бұрын
It's a shame all these resources are being wasted on such an incredibly inefficient dead-end technology.
@AdamLinkous
Жыл бұрын
I'd be curious how well the exhaust works in frigid climates.
@XxBanziixX1
Жыл бұрын
Hyundai has been providing hydrogen fuel cell semis to the European market since 2019 already. I would say GM is late to start.
@leo-mapping
Жыл бұрын
these tutorials really coming in clutch
@TechWithBrett
Жыл бұрын
I think Blue lab coat Jerry needs his own channel.
@qwertylesh
Жыл бұрын
Zach! What's the meantime between failure rate for the platinum sheeting? Does it break down over time similar to an anode would in a lithium battery? It would be interesting to know when/frequency that the fuel cells require replacement, and long into future serviceability and cost would also be interesting! lastly, it seems insane to me to have stack of 10k PSI tanks behind the head of the vehicle operator. does anyone agree/disagree?
@goodsoul6675
Жыл бұрын
6:46 I wanted to know the voltage and current output of that entire system, but it seems that the information is classified.😅
@CATA20034
Жыл бұрын
The problem with fuel cell is related to it's efficiency.... up to 50%. So adding all the production, storage losses, you are geting close to diesel.
@jimurrata6785
Жыл бұрын
You're already past diesel... But you meet clean air regulations! 😉
@Yutani_Crayven
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's gonna require fossil fuels being made way more expensive via legislation for that to work. Otherwise, steam reformation from natural gas will always be the cheapest way to acquire hydrogen. Until that is the case, hydrogen is just more inefficient batteries with extra steps.
@Yutani_Crayven
Жыл бұрын
So, until that day comes, it's nothing but a greenwashing gimmick, unfortunately. And most car companies use it exactly that way and for exactly that reason.
@gregsimpson621
Жыл бұрын
Fascinating video! You've done quite a few videos on solar power and other sources for electricity energy but this hydrogen process is simply fascinating!!! Thank you so much for the education. And I never realized trucking contributes to 30% of our carbon emissions. This could become a "game changer" in regards to our carbon footprints. Thank Jerry!
@daemn42
Жыл бұрын
Two pretty significant problems with a hydrogen fuel cell based future (which for some reason no KZitemrs ever explore in depth). 1. There exist no alternatives to Platinum group metal (PGM) based catalysts which are as both as efficient *and* durable, so without *major* advancements, we're trading one non-renewable resource (fossil fuels) for another that are literally some of the rarest materials on earth. There is no path forward for the hydrogen economy that does not include extracting pretty much all known PGMs from the earth along with 100% recycling, ignoring the fact that PGMs are in demand for many other processes. 2. Hydrogen production itself is very dirty. The current methods of hydrogen production include, Steam Methane Reforming (SMR), Oil Reforming, Coal Gassification, and Water Electrolysis. Unsurprisingly, the first three methods account for 96% of all global Hydrogen production, and all of them produce higher end to end CO2 emissions than simply producing electricity directly from any of the same sources (natural gas, oil, and coal). This is dumb, in a similar way that growing corn to product ethanol is dumb.
@Shanghaimartin
Жыл бұрын
Zack wearing a hairnet made me chuckle :)
@anshul_khemani
Жыл бұрын
7:05 Funny how he's wearing a surgical cap even tho he doesn't have hair 😂
@nedj10
Жыл бұрын
Love to know where they expect to get a world level supply of Platinum to make this work :)
@WolfTronix
Жыл бұрын
Catalytic converters.
@phalanx3803
Жыл бұрын
yea a little bit of a problem. but its about time we started to find a way to make our own Platinum. we can make diamonds so why not other materials?
@ryoukokonpaku1575
Жыл бұрын
There's newer catalysts now that uses carbon coated nickle, it has comparable efficiency with platinum.
@jeffsaffron5647
Жыл бұрын
Very nice video about technical aspects of hydrogen vehicles. However they are few very important points that should be stated. 1) Hydrogen being most abundant element in the universe. True it is also highly reactive which means free floating hydrogen can only be found in vacuum of space. On Earth there is no free floating hydrogen, it needs to be manufactured either from hydrocarbons (which produces carbon emissions) or by splitting the water molecule (electrolysis). 2) Hydrogen powered cars produce don't produce carbon emissions. True but manufacturing of Hydrogen does as 95% of our H2 is from hydrocarbons. Conventional electrolysis of water is about 70% efficient process. Powering electrolysis from renewables such a solar or wind is much quite complicated in practice due to issues with intermittent power delivery of these sources. 3) Hydrogen cell has its issues as well. Relatively high price and quite low efficiency (40-60%). So the whole hydrogen cycle efficiency water -> electrolysis -> hydrogen -> fuel cell -> water, is only about 30%. So you really need to make 3-4x as much energy than you can actually consume in the vehicle. 4) Energy density - yes on paper hydrogen has much better energy density than lithium batteries. However again in practice when you count in high pressure tanks, piping and fuel cells. Vehicle weights the same as comparable EV with batteries. Toyota Miraii - 1900kg (4188.8 lbs) / range 650 km (400mi) Tesla Model S - 1961-2250 kg (4323-4960 lbs) / range up to 650km (400mi) So yes hydrogen vehicle is lighter but only by 10% or so.
@strategicsammy
Жыл бұрын
I probably just learned more science from watching this video than I did in the past 15 years in school.
We all know how to make hydrogen powered trucks, Nikola taught us well after all...
@pw7225
Жыл бұрын
Step 1. Find a hill.
@TheOpinionatedYouTuber
Жыл бұрын
I’m going to ask the question that I’ve not seen asked yet, as a first responder: What happens when this gaseous hydrogen-containing vehicle catches fire? What happens when the tank gets ruptured? (Because knowing human nature is to know this will eventually happen!) And, just for good measure, where’s the 1049 Placard? 😂
@AK474000
Жыл бұрын
Trains have been using this exact method granted with Diesel engines, but like was explained trains could be adapted to this very easily and just makes a ton of sense for trucks and transport vehicles as well.
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
Zack Do a Sun to wheels analysis of the energy used. Ask what that solar energy would be used for if it wasn't being used to inefficiently liberate hydrogen. (Clue, it would be removing fossil generation from the grid...... The fact that using 3 units of solar to provide hydrogen means 2 units of fossil remain, meaning the grid is dirty compared to using straight electrical storage..... Hydrogen is dirty ... All of it ) . Ask who pays for the grid energy. (Hydrogen is expensive)
@Kauppamopo
Жыл бұрын
might be most common element in the world but its never alone, always stuck to something
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. And it takes ENERGY to break the bond. It baffles me that Smart people can't see this. They look at "efficiency" of a tiny part of a system, instead of the whole system. . There's going to be a scandal when operators realised they're being charged for ALL the grid energy being used further up the chain.
@Jolly_Green23
Жыл бұрын
As a truck driver, I've always been more interested in hydrogen than electric trucks. In this video, he mentions that it has a battery to help with acceleration at slow speeds. That makes me question its abilities with climbing mountains since over half my nightly run is through the mountains. The part where it's pointed out how quiet the inside of the truck is..all modern trucks are that quiet. My diesel Peterbilt day cab is just as quiet. Observations I've made in this video include how much length this adds to the truck. It makes a day cab the same length as a sleeper truck, which in turn would make sleeper trucks too long to navigate many places. Current hydrogen-powered trucks have smaller boxes behind the cab, adding almost no length. Many of our trucks are single-axel daycabs, and adding that box would make them too big to navigate many of our customers. (LTL) My truck is a twin axle since I'm a linehaul driver, but I share it with a city driver who needs it to be as short as possible. Another is the infrastructure. We fuel on-site at my terminal since we have 250 day cabs, half of which run 24 hours a day. Changing the terminal and trucks to accommodate hydrogen would be a huge undertaking. I've been following hydrogen technology in aviation, and I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do.
@JZabala22
Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a new Hummer project. This would be a perfect H2 (Hydrogen Hummer)
@libertarian1637
Жыл бұрын
My understanding is 1 Kg of hydrogen has roughly 1.019 times the amount of energy as 1 gal. of gasoline; 1 gal. of diesel has roughly 1.155 times the energy of 1 gal. of gasoline. Even assuming 100% of energy recovery of the hydrogen and only 40% recovery of the diesel, which is overly estimated for the former and under estimated for the later, 6-10 Kg hydrogen tanks wouldn’t hold near the same amount of energy as 150 gal. diesel tank, which would seem to demonstrate not the same range but a shorter range compared to a diesel truck; this is especially true as most trucks have more than a 150 gal. fuel tank with some sporting 2 tanks and over 300 gal. of capacity. I like hydrogen fuel cell technology as it’s what got us to the moon but the big issue with all these alternative technologies is that both gasoline and diesel are just excellent fuel sources regarding energy density and usability and simply don’t have truly viable present alternatives; though hopefully technology will keep improving until a long haul solution is reached, namely no added weight or space and at least a 1,000 mile range to refuel with similar refueling or recharging times to the present.
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
Did anyone ask about the expected life of the fuel cells, or how much they cost to replace?
@tullo5564
Жыл бұрын
And about the possible explosion which will be like a nuke
@dimitar4y
Жыл бұрын
overhyped. Hydrogen engines and hydrogen boost has existed for almost 50 years and the industry forklifts use it a lot, the issue is that in a car crash these explode, violently and the industry hasn't found a way to make these indestructible enough to justify in high risk scenarios i.e. highway use. On a truck it makes sense because: how will the truck crash so bad that it will get crushed all the way to the bottle and then puncture the bottle? It can't. Also the gas stations that sell this would be KABOOM HAPPY!!
@Blaster_Unity_UB
Жыл бұрын
It's quite good & relieving to see such tech being used!
@N0N0111
Жыл бұрын
Hydrogen is in a lift up, see couple countries start huge production facilities.
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
It's worrying, wasting energy.
@Pawer8
Жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 doesn't matter the sun has plenty of that. As long as it's green energy h2 production is irrelevant
@ForTheBirbs
Жыл бұрын
The first hydrogen powered semi is now used by PepsiCo in Australia. So beyond an engineering sample
@CACressida
Жыл бұрын
There's several Toyota/Kenworth hydrogen trucks running around LA for years.
@ryoukokonpaku1575
Жыл бұрын
@@CACressida They've also committed to commercial operations recently due to their success with the pilot program tests with real-world customers on LA. Kenworth is starting builds right now powered by Toyota's FC drivetrain with orders available early 2024 if I recall.
@kodak_jack
Жыл бұрын
The whole GM fuel cell development program was being done in the Rochester, N.Y. area for at least 20 years when it was suddenly shut down. Now, in all of its glory, it show sup in Michigan. Have your people look into that.
@saumyajana2925
Жыл бұрын
He never stops amazing us with these amazing informative videos. Thanks and hats off.
@WANDERER0070
Жыл бұрын
Nice experiment but way more expensive the n pure EV. Tesla semi goes 500 miles w full load and REcharges on downhil 😊 thats free energy ,, hydrogen is DoA
@darkkforest
Жыл бұрын
That video will be a fun ride. I love those episodes.
@derrekvanee4567
Жыл бұрын
Jerry rig moderators controlled by a psrty too. KZitem is dead or the gvnt after me. *have fun folks*
@RobbieBeswick
Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for conspiracy theorists to accuse Hydrotec of releasing harmful chemicals into the earth when really it’s water, just like they do with ‘chemtrails’ 😂
@Redthorn57
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see more about how the hydrogen is produced and distributed at scale. That will be a much large endeavor than the fuel cells themselves - especially in the US.
@-PORK-CHOP-
Жыл бұрын
What is the difference in the US as opposed to anywhere else, every country will have the same obstacles to overcome in production and distribution.
@sanskarpashine7217
Жыл бұрын
But isn't it too expensive! Are we saving enough that it can reduce carbon emissions. Plus it is much more complex and dangerous as we know hydrogen is explosive. And platinum is pretty expensive. I am pretty sure H2 fuel cell will be much more simpler in near future. But as of now Combustion engine and normal electric engine are good.
@Johnny_Kanuk
Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. Thanks Jerry. I drive long haul and there is just no way a battery powered truck could work. Hydrogen is the best fuel alternative for the long haul trucks. Keep the electric ones for the last mile and short haul stuff. I'm pretty sure switching diesel fuel pumps over to Hydrogen would be easier than charge plugs. I'm excited to see this is getting closer to reality. They just need to make the fueling process idiot proof, trust me if you saw what some of these drivers do to regular pumps, you would have concerns about Hydrogen pumps in their hands.
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
How long do you drive (legally) without a break?
@Johnny_Kanuk
Жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 I do about 10.5hrs total. I will go for about 6 hours straight then do my mandated 30 minute break, I have to do that 30 minutes within 8hrs of starting my day. Then along the way I will stop every so often for a 10 minute break to just get out and stretch the legs and back. Not as young as I use to be and my back lets me know it. HA Legally we are allowed 11 hours of driving in the US, in Canada I can do 13 hours, but in both countries you only have a maximum of 14 hours of driving and On Duty time on your logs. So if you start at 7am your day will end at 9pm, no matter if you drove 1 hour or 11 hours. It sounds like a lot of hours but you get stuck at a customer loading or off loading, get caught up in a traffic back up and there go your hours. It's happened to me so many times I just laugh and say It gets there when it gets there.
@ryoukokonpaku1575
Жыл бұрын
@@Johnny_Kanuk It's also the same case from what I recall for heavy machinery. They're also favoring hydrogen for lesser downtime, especially for big equipment that may be used in multiple shifts via driver swaps to lessen downtime which costs money for companies.
@Robert.Blodgett
Жыл бұрын
Hydrogen, one of the most abundant elements... Platinum, one of the least abundant... How do they factor that into the equation of long-term sustainability? Thanks for the well thought-out video. Really enjoyed it.
@enam9000
Жыл бұрын
Hydrogen powered house 😍
@LinkinPark4Ever1996
Жыл бұрын
Kaboom
@chunkplunk
Жыл бұрын
dumbest comment I've ever seen
@ProjectPhysX
Жыл бұрын
The most dumb idea I've heard in a long time. Why not blow the energy directly out of the window, along with loads of money? For ground storage you can use cheap battery chemistry (energy density does not matter), that does not waste 80% of the energy you put in as conversion losses. And it does not need super expensive platinum catalyst.
@scottkolaya2110
Жыл бұрын
Why start off with an irrelevant fact that hydrogen is the most common element in the galaxy? That's nice, I live on planet Earth where it's like number 10. I guess it doesn't sound as impressive if you say: Hydrogen is the 10th most common element on Earth. Doesn't really have the same ring.
@nonnymoose7005
Жыл бұрын
The hot water exhaust should go to a tap in the cab so that the driver can use it to make tea.
@Dat_Sun
Жыл бұрын
That's about all these things going to be good for with its incredibly low payload and range, just like ev trucks. It's a shame hydrogen is not a fuel source this whole idea was flawed from the start. Hydrogen is what's called an energy Carrier, Hydrogen is just another demand for fossil fuel. Hydrogen can be "made" with other methods but 99% of the hydrogen on this planet has been manufactured with fossil fuels because it's so energy intensive.
@eDoc2020
Жыл бұрын
@@Dat_Sun FCEV range isn't bad and unlike BEVs you can refill extremely quickly.
@MorrisonManor
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see an honest run-down on how the hydrogen is captured in an industrial environment. It's long been my understanding that the only currently viable source is in hydrocarbon-rich products. e.g. petroleum. I guess we can break water down with electricity but, I'm sure the DOE and power companies would prefer that sun and wind to feed the grid when conditions allow.
@BenWillKing
Жыл бұрын
For comparison, the classic steam locomotives operated at 250-350 psi. If the boiler ever exploded, they caused catastrophic damage, and shot pieces of locomotive as far as a mile away. Now we're talking 10,000 psi. If these things are ever in a bad wreck...
@alwar5822
9 ай бұрын
its not the same, gas density reduces the stored energy enough to not be that hazardous
@Lq32332
Жыл бұрын
Hydrogen doesn’t have the weight problem of batteries but it has a volume problem. It take a stupid large space / high PSI to store gaseous hydrogen. As batteries continue to improve hydrogen becomes less attractive.
@dchapman2316
Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who can talk interestingly and intelligently to people who have a hard time seeing that Hydrogen may be what powers us into the future! Thanks
@Ammoconnect
Жыл бұрын
Its a hybrid BEV what a waste lol, charge your hydrogen and charge your batteries... sounds miserable
@Screamingtut
Жыл бұрын
Hey, Zack, you should make a Hydrogen Fuel Cell for your Humvee, so it can charge the batteries to extend your range. this way you can get better mileage. Just Like the ones on the 18-wheeler but just a bit smaller than those. you can store maybe two of the carbon fiber tanks and it can generate enough kilowatts to keep all of your battery packs charged to give you at least two to three times more range. So if I remember correctly from your videos, (I could be off a bit), you were getting about 250 miles on a standard charge. You could get about 500-750 more miles with the addition of a Hydrogen Fuel Cell
@VincentGroenewold
Жыл бұрын
Theoretically yes, practically hydrogen is the most difficult gas to contain (and thereby also dangerous when not done well). Which would make it incredibly expensive for such a project.
@adventureswithfrodo2721
Жыл бұрын
You fail to mention why semitrucks are being the only vechile really being test. It is because to have H2 fuling stations is to complex so having specific depiots where you would have a large number of semitrucks is more efficent and safer.
@MiguelRPD
Жыл бұрын
This seems like a better idea than batteries. But wouldnt a ton of these trucks on the road create black ice in colder climates ?
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
Did you notice the hydrogen was just "in the tank"? . Consider the extra Grid infrastructure you need for this over and above straight battery storage. (Hydrogen is just a STORAGE medium, like a battery)
@ChristofferETJ
Жыл бұрын
It is worth underlining just how inefficient this is. You can drive three times further on each kWh produced, if you skip the hydrogen and charge the battery (and this does have a large lithium battery) directly from the grid.
@SooDamGood
Жыл бұрын
Nice! I don’t believe this will be part of a big future but it’s good they’re doing things like this
@bikesmith
Жыл бұрын
Well, you can make your own electricity but you cannot make your own hidrogen so... Keep your humvee as is.
@daniel_wilkinson
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for at least mentioning how energy intensive hydrogen collection is. Personally, I was aware that fossil fuels were going to run out eventually even as a kid in the 70s. I also believed that the changeover to whatever came next is going to be painful and we'd all just better get used to the idea. I didn't know what would come next but I did hope to see it in my lifetime. I didn't see electric being as big a thing as it is and I'm very disappointed that even more of the Earth is being forever scarred to satisfy that hunger.
@GabrieleNunnari
Жыл бұрын
Well I love how all the videos that talk about Hydrogen ALWAYS forget 2 key elements: Efficiency and Distribution. Yes IF you can use clean energy to convert electricity into Hydrogen, that it becomes clean hydrogen (Extra mark on the IF), but the total efficiency of the hydrogen process from conversion to energy extraction is around 30%, contrarely to the 95+% of electricity. Second point is DISTRIBUTION. Yes you save some weight on the truck due to batteries, and what does transport hydrogen around to all the refueling stations? A shit ton of trucks. Electricity flows on electrical cables, hydrogen does not, it requires a physical distribution network as big as the fuel one, with all the energy spent just in moving the liquid around. So let's do the video adding some math on what is really the gain of Hydrogen
@papa_woody
Жыл бұрын
Jach, don't promote this pipe dream. Hydrogen vehicles are DOA, simply do to the economics of hydrogen itself.
@tigers123123
Жыл бұрын
It's a pity you did not tell how much energy is wasted in the process (electricity -> H2 -> storage of H2 -> electricity).
@Buciasda33
Жыл бұрын
Now imagine exhausting all that water in the winter time.
@Juhcarro
Жыл бұрын
Funny enough I just wrote a research paper on hydrogen cars for my English class. This was a really nice video highlighting all the benefits of it that people seem to not know about.
@accordxtc319
Жыл бұрын
So cool to see another form of fuel for our earth. I think EV has a place but this could be something that could work beside or be more fuel efficient. Thanks for sharing!
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
If you use three times the grid energy to move a truck the same distance, it's not "fuel efficient". Who do you think will pay for the grid energy? The generating company won't give it away. The grid utility won't absorb the cost. It will be passed to the end user...... In an industry when cents per mile counts? You think that's going to work?
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
@Auschwitz Soccer Ref. You STILL don't get the point? If you consider nuclear "green" you still need 3 times the amount to move the hydrogen vehicle. .. Do you think that will be free energy, "given" to the operator of the truck? Oh.... "V8 powered by Hydrogen". It would be below 15% efficient" source to wheels" instead of 25% for fuel cells.... And Hydrogen eats internal combustion engines.
@jimurrata6785
Жыл бұрын
Ah..... This _IS_ an EV. Just a very inefficient one because it is trying to produce the electrons onboard rather than take them from the grid.
@michelleavallone3699
Жыл бұрын
not so sure "renewable" solar/wind is cheaper than fossil fuel.....when we drill, gas price below $2/gal! i call that self induced inflation.
@someonewhocares999
Жыл бұрын
Seems cool however isn't hydrogen a dead end? Efficiency right now of taking electricity, converting water to hydrogen, then cooling it down, then transporting it, then warming it up, then using fuel cells to generate electricity again is reeeeally low. Wouldn't be easier to just use a regular battery and skip most of those steps?
@lord_ishamael
Жыл бұрын
You’re correct that it’s less efficient, the issue however is emissions. If the hydrogen is being refined using renewable energy, the hydrogen vehicle is going to have a far lower carbon footprint, whereas with an electric vehicle it has the giant batteries that have to be made then dealt with after they go bad, which is extremely bad for the environment. Plus, as a truck driver myself, I can tell you we aren’t going to sit around for hours waiting for our trucks to charge XD
@someonewhocares999
Жыл бұрын
@@lord_ishamael sure thing, however the Tesla's semi can charge up to 70% in 30 minutes, I'd say that's not bad at all
@eugenes9751
Жыл бұрын
Using hydrogen is effectively as dumb as purchasing an electric car and putting a gas generator in the trunk to charge the batteries. Oh, and you have to manufacture the gas yourself, using grid power.
@pasculaurentiu000
Жыл бұрын
The cost of carbon fiber tanks and the reliability of 10000psi system? Trucks can easily be replaced with electric trains.
@kikar92
Жыл бұрын
I'm planning to buy namx car works also with the hydrogen with great milage what do you thinks?
@bluegizmo1983
Жыл бұрын
Yay! Let's built large fleets of rolling Hindenburg's to replace every 18 wheeler in the country! 🤣
@mjc0961
Жыл бұрын
I don't believe for a second that hydrogen will be the future of the average person's day to day driving. MAYBE they can get it working for large vehicles like semis, but passenger cars? Forget it. BEVs, with new battery technologies that will spank lithium based batteries, are the future. That said, it's still cool to see and learn about this technology. Thanks for taking the time to share this with us. Also no, I don't think you should build a hydrogen powered humvee, unless there's actually a hydrogen refueling station nearby so you can use it, hahaha.
@NickCombs
Жыл бұрын
Semi trucks should be phased out almost entirely as we transition back to the more economical solution of electric freight rail. But I do see a future in overseas shipping for hydrogen.
@coolalexg14
Жыл бұрын
DAMN! You got HELLA access to this lab. I don't know many labs this much access!
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