I usually never comment on KZitem videos but this video is so good he explains everything so simply and he shows you how to do everything and it's not complicated so thankyou very much for this video.
@AquaticLogic
4 ай бұрын
Amen brother. Simple, effective, and awesome camera work!
@slave2sin
3 ай бұрын
I agree, this is by far the best video I've seen for this process so far... However... zip ties?? bro, REALLY? I'd suggest using the proper size ferrules and a swage tool to crimp the end of the wire loop so you don't risk the loop coming undone or cutting yourself on the cut end of the zip ties.
@alexbabuca
4 жыл бұрын
I just had to come back and comment, every other video on KZitem requires opening the case and removing the shaft and gear. I decide to give this a shot and works like a charm and easily reversible if needed. Thanks for the video, this is what I'm doing to all the 212s now, simple and so effective.
@Young_king888
3 жыл бұрын
i did this and the top speed is like 35 on my go kart with a stage 1, you think this does the same thing if we removed it from inside?
@jaybrittain5295
3 жыл бұрын
@@Young_king888 I get 30 on mine stock....
@aldobarone7398
3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the correct way to bypass the governor is to do it internally. "bypassing" the governor as described will only work until the engine reaches a certain speed and activates the centrifugal weights which will overpower the spring and limit the revs anyway. But I will go ahead and try it anyway...
@migiddymike1403
3 жыл бұрын
@@aldobarone7398 I'd be interested in your outcome. Pondering just going ahead and doing it internally, but I'm lazy.
@trevinskiking2165
3 жыл бұрын
Removing the plastic parts internally is the correct way....Trev New Zealand 🇳🇿😇
@tommgunn4219
5 жыл бұрын
Instead of a zip tie for the cable end with no fitting on it, you could use a 10=12 gauge electrical crimp connector. Probably a little more durable. Great video. Thanks for sharing.
@nicholasboudewijn1174
10 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, or even a fishing weight.
@steveww07
Жыл бұрын
On the OEM, (please pause the video at 1:40) the main throttle lever is NOT hooked to the carb. It is hooked to the governor which then IT controls the throttle based on the internal mechanism that limits rpm/response along with your input. Bottom line, the governor lever has final say so in the throttle/butterflys position. By hooking directly to the carb or the governor arm which directly hooks to the carb you have eliminated its ability to alter your input by giving you a direct connection. No governor action is capable when your right thumb is directly connected to the carb's butterfly. Those who say this won't work should put their dad's tools away, go back to their parent's basement and warm up a hot pocket.
@zaidyonan9208
Жыл бұрын
What do you do with the governor if you've installed an aftermarket carb that has the tradition slide? The stock carb and assembly above it are obviously gone, but the governor is still there. I am not getting fuel to the carb even through the new throttle works. I appreciate your advice/direction.
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Жыл бұрын
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@braddo1972
10 ай бұрын
So you pulling the governer with the throttle and bridging from that so no direct to the butterfly on the carb if you get my drift
@redeemedmat2211
4 ай бұрын
Hey hey ! How about if I like pizza bites instead of hot pockets huh ?
@lisamuller2579
7 жыл бұрын
Zip tie the governor spring. Takes 5 minutes. Same outcome, way easier, and you keep the stock linkage which is very useful. Its cool that you came up with your own way though, never would have thought of doing that.
@justnature1900
2 жыл бұрын
you need to make a video
@texicali444
Жыл бұрын
@@justnature1900 i see what she means. If you watch the governor spring from the throttle to gov arm, its got a certain "give" that prevents it from opening fully. Zip tie the coils and it essentially becomes a rod instead of a spring. I may try this
@waleed.khalidadeeb934
4 жыл бұрын
You just left the governor mechanism engaged . Doing this will make the engine tends to reduce the throttle openning when it reaches the set value ( 3000 rpm ) and this tendancy will be opposite to the force of your throttle lever or handle what ever you use , so you will have oppsite forces acting against each other. I recommend taking out the governer lever and keep the spring attached to a fixed position instead so that the throttle gets back to idle position when you release it.
@stevenhedrick1071
Жыл бұрын
Sorry I’m trying to do this now, and so your saying take off the long skinny rod? So then there will just be return spring and throttle cable connected to the arm?
@curtisvancleve3795
Жыл бұрын
@@stevenhedrick1071ķķ
@josephatnip2398
6 жыл бұрын
If your missing the ball on the end of a throttle cable just smash a lead fishing Sinker on there
@allenwilson1864
5 жыл бұрын
that does'nt work. lol. I wish it did
@joeshmo2473
5 жыл бұрын
@@allenwilson1864 it actually does work man. But instead of bashing it on there you get the lead weights that have the hole all the way through the center. Thread the cable through and put it where you want it and heat it with a blow torch until its close to melting and it will fuse to the cable. Ive done this many times. Works well. Use a blow torch with MAP gas
@allenwilson6585
5 жыл бұрын
Like I said smashing it does not work. Melting it on does.
@tommgunn4219
5 жыл бұрын
A simple propane torch will accomplish the task. But it is a good idea to clean the cable with alcohol and put a drop or to of soldering Flux where you intend to attach the sinker.
@rfnslick
5 жыл бұрын
I totally did this also !!! And it did work !!! I did a mikuni carburetor conversion but my throttle cable didn't have the ball or anything on the end, no worries get out thee old fishing tackle, pick the right size sinker and voila!!! Hahaha glad I wasn't the only one to think of this !!
@db3170
3 жыл бұрын
Remove the guvnah arm and bore the mounting hole reinstall pinch bolt, the arm will move freely with no effect of the governor . You must reinstall the tank to keep arm from coming up and off of shaft, it could be cross drilled and cotter pin would work if you run with out the tank
@HellzJester1
6 жыл бұрын
this helped a lot, getting ready to put a 212 on a beach cruiser bike. wanted alil more power
@JoseRodriguez-en8bo
3 жыл бұрын
I advise you to check out a couple other videos just to be safe bud. You'll understand why after you see a few other videos.
@HellzJester1
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoseRodriguez-en8bo lol so yeah it already happened bout a year ago my dude, and yeah, it tore the frame up on the 3ed run, needless to say I won't do that again
@nascarsimracing1
5 жыл бұрын
What I did to hold the cable in place is secured it in the cable clamp closest to the arm, and put the cable around and into the arm hole. And then I took a bolt and nut to clamp the cable in the spot I wanted. Rode my minibike real hard today and had no problem.
@erickv8684
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I noticed this configuration on the KT 196 ENGINE, I know its got more juice than its produced to make. This video explains very well what is needed or not needed.
@codyschwoch5451
5 ай бұрын
Me speaking from experience if you bypass the governor gear whether it’s a predator engine or not, you better be committing to oil changes every 60 drive hours because the governor gear is what protects all those small moving gears from exploding inside the casing so if you do the general maintenance on it at thehours that the owners manual says and keep making sure there’s oil in it then yeah it won’t blow up but if you’re buying it, and it will be great to do maintenance on it. Then your engine will yeet itself into existence after five years of not changing or more.
@tonyc7376
3 жыл бұрын
Been watching all the videos just found this vid from a few years back. You're right you can bypass the governor of this way and if people don't Full Throttle it into Infinity they should be okay but if they max out the RPMs for too long that plastic Governor gear could explode inside. It could just be chewed up by the steel internals but it could cause problems I guess
@a_gokart_kid1259
Жыл бұрын
Yes I have learned from previous mistakes that maxing rpm’s with this setup for to long will completely destroy that plastic housing and a suggestion is that you fully tenths gov
@ugi-es2hb
7 ай бұрын
@@a_gokart_kid1259how long do u think it will last if u hold it for to long. And I’m thinkings about doing it how long do u think the engine will last if u are careful.
@madixj
2 жыл бұрын
The only problem I've heard of with just bypassing the governor like this is even though it won't effect your speed, that gear in there will still be spinning at very high speeds (speeds it's not meant for) and that gear could break and cause problems in the engine.
@Ephixa06
2 жыл бұрын
So u think id be better just to remove the governer by the inside
@madixj
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ephixa06 if you're ok with doing it, yeah. It's just a little more safe in my opinion and then you never have to worry about the governor again
@ThunderDivine
7 жыл бұрын
He is actually not bypassing the Governor he is wiring directly to the governor. - Therefore not letting the governor do its job. - A lot safer to remove the gear btw.
@themotochannelu.k5098
7 жыл бұрын
ThunderDivine yes mate, my thoughts exactly, he hasnt took the governor arm off ?? But there are many ways to do this.
@magi7ion75
5 жыл бұрын
Bypass and removing are two different terms
@ownee1866
5 жыл бұрын
It still works, and he said that he's done it before
@adammidcal2425
5 жыл бұрын
Looks like a bypass to me
@CharlieChastain-vw6go
5 жыл бұрын
It works that's all that matters . Make huge difference in power
@bitsnpieces77
7 жыл бұрын
Hey just keep doing what your doing love watching your videos thanks for working so hard
@texicali444
Жыл бұрын
If you watch the governor spring from the throttle to gov arm, its got a certain "give" that prevents it from opening fully. Zip tie the coils and it essentially becomes a rod instead of a spring. I may try this.
@jonnyb9982
Жыл бұрын
The reason the governor is on there is for standard applications like running equipment and machinery. The reason we remove it is for better throttle response, not more rpms. As long as you don't over rev it, you should be fine.
@braddo1972
10 ай бұрын
Nope it will give more rpm because the governer prevents full rpm
@jonnyb9982
10 ай бұрын
@braddo1972 No, the governor stops it AT full rpm, in this case 2500 rpms. Anything over that would be over reving and you have a better chance of damaging the engine unless you install better engine components like a billet flywheel, crank rod, piston and I would also put in some better springs in it if you want to over rev it. And might as well do a cam at this point, you are in it deep enough. Better yet, just buy the ghost engine.
@Deucealive75
4 ай бұрын
That's another myth. Removing the governor does not and can not change throttle response. The other very popular myth is that you can't get full throttle with the governor and stock linkage. I get full throttle on my governed minibike engines. My engines would never perform the way they do if these were true.
@jonnyb9982
4 ай бұрын
@Deucealive75 No myth. I've done it enough times on several different motors. I race lawn tractors my whole life. Sure you can over-ride or bypass the governor. But it is better to remove it all together. You don't want to rev it higher than the max rpm as stock. The magnets could fly off the flywheel, or the flywheel can explode in general. And If you don't believe me that's fine. I just hope you, your friends, or family don't get hurt when yours explodes.
@Principlesofpleasure
3 жыл бұрын
This explained why my sons mini bike beat mine lmao his is hooked up this way thing hits like 45 stock with gov, I put a fresh 212 on mine with exhaust and this helped me beat him 😈 thanks brotha your the man 🤙🏽👊🏽👊🏽
@DnyLcy0930
2 жыл бұрын
I like your channel because it’s as close to what I have at home than other channels that seems like you need a sponsor to fix the smallest things lol
@johnnewson5039
5 жыл бұрын
yeah, good video. explains it in simple terms. but as for the zip tie, NO. use a cable clamp.
@jaredshelton4718
4 жыл бұрын
Cable clamp or metal zip tie
@navajorezathlete1202
2 ай бұрын
Thank you. Neighbor lady asked me for help with her go cart so here I am figuring out how to adjust it
@luehawj82
5 жыл бұрын
I did to my predator 212cc its still running good . Great video
@danielandujar5479
4 жыл бұрын
I just got a mini bike with a Trimmer engine can you tell me how to switch one of this engines and where to get it and the price please🙏🤾♂️ in simple words please😁
@christophermarch5545
Жыл бұрын
@@danielandujar5479 harbor freight
@silverstar4289
6 ай бұрын
Don’t need to do this, but I learned what all the parts are for on that speed control. Had same unit on a 228cc, then put a predator on the splitter. Learned to disconnect the oil pressure cut off today. Now it starts on a quarter pull, rather than several to apparently get the oil pressure up enough to start.
@Deucealive75
4 ай бұрын
These engines do not have oil pressure or an oil pressure switch. What you disconnected was the oil low switch. When the oil level gets low enough the switch will ground out the coil and shut off the engine. They get removed or disconnected for the minibike and go kart applications.
@robmolloy83
3 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering if something like this could be done! Thanks!!!
@sstjacques
Жыл бұрын
I watched this just to see how the springs and such are hooked up, thank you... my Predator still does not start but this video is helpful.. so must not be the way it is hooked up, but found I am missing one the springs that attaches to the throttle action on carburetor. My configuration is for a leaf blower, engine was put on a Giant VAC to replace an older Briggs engine, so my throttle cable comes in from the front side "pull starter" side and don't want the action to spring back automatically because it is not used like a gas pedal, like a go kart. Once throttle is set on a leaf blower, you want it to stay on by itself and control throttle with the cable / lever.
@ronshaw6247
5 жыл бұрын
Removing the governor is a good trick,(if you run the streets) at WOT! LOL! I trail ride my mini bike, and I'm more interested in low end torque, than high RPM. I use a CVT and a 60 tooth rear sprocket on my bike. It pulls like a tractor, but still hit's 32 mph with my 254 lbs.riding on it!
@asphaltcowboy7868
4 жыл бұрын
This does give you a little extra acceleration.. but it doesn't seem to do anything to top end speed.. this is just a direct set up for your throttle nothing really gained or then less looks best.. the problem I found was the rear spring pulls back too much, causing the choke to stay closed..so once you let off the throttle, the return spring causes the choke to close and stalls engine, also hard to start with closed choke as well
@adventures4curiosity317
Жыл бұрын
You need a bigger carb bro, the stock carbs provide enough air/fuel for the stock engine at the maximum governed speed, if you bypass or remove the governor you will definitely need to add extra air/fuel by way of a bigger carb, you can pick up mikuni vm22 carbs for Chinese dirt bikes pretty cheap on ebay and amazon. This will give the motor all it needs to burn at the higher RPM ranges and you will definitely see the benefits of the bypass. If you do this you might aswell add an aftermarket exhaust for £30 from ebay/amazon too. The power increase is pretty insane for very little money and effort and well worth doing. These are awesome little engines and can put out quite a bit of power with minimal money and effort. Good luck 👍
@dave1135
7 жыл бұрын
Cars and cameras method is better, just take the side cover off, remove the governor gear, reinstall the cover. You keep all the original linkage and don't need to have 6" to 8" inches running from your clamp to the arm. But not saying this won't work.
@16driver16
6 жыл бұрын
dave1135 You have to modify the stock linkage to remove the governor like your saying(done it many times), but agreed it is much better.
@mikewilson5534
6 жыл бұрын
E.
@joeshmo2473
5 жыл бұрын
@@16driver16 no you don't. You just remove the governor arm and gear and washers etc, and cut the arm off inside the case with a dremel. Keeping the arm sticking out of the case with the governor linkage intacked and still useable. Ive seen it done this way and works very well. Leave a slight bent on the governor arm INSIDE the case. Will keep the arm from coming out and then make sure to put the clip back on.
@16driver16
5 жыл бұрын
@@joeshmo2473 i suppose you could leave all that linkage on there, ive never done it that way myself but ive since upgraded to a mikuni and ill never go back.
@joeshmo2473
5 жыл бұрын
@@16driver16 yeah your absolutely right about the mikuni. The only thing that sucks is the price. A genuine 26mm mikuni will run anywhere from 90 to 120 but they are sooo worth the money. I have one on my pitbike and it screams and the throttle response is much crispier.
@2fxst2drxft
Жыл бұрын
Predator engines won’t blow up ungoverned with stock internals. I raced a predator 212 with a Briggs animal 206cc racing 26mm carb and a Honda racing exhaust as well as a vacuum fuel system, on my professional racing gokart for 3 years. Never even had a sign of wear.
@mr.sandman5311
6 жыл бұрын
8:30 but remember, the governor is out for blood and is becoming stronger every day for revenge a pond its friends and family you gruesomely beheaded at 2:34
@julianpat6146
5 жыл бұрын
I did this with new engine and it rattles at high sped that good
@tristan6509
4 жыл бұрын
Well the point of a governer is to limit the rpm, by bypassing it you'll get alot more performance but you're also stressing the engine more because it's now running at 5200rpm max instead of 3600rpm max.
@tristan6509
4 жыл бұрын
@Visuint depends on the use case and the cooling
@Dan.r.la420
4 жыл бұрын
Visuint you need to upgrade your internal parts that can handle more rpms.
@ttv_adrevenue887
4 жыл бұрын
U are a high sped
@mississippi-son
4 жыл бұрын
Put oil in it
@danielsteger5467
7 жыл бұрын
you can cut the cabel whit the welder so thath the ends don't split apart lg Daniel
@vuksidz727
10 ай бұрын
I did this on my gx200 clone and basically, it wouldn't start until I added a bit of throttle, also there were a lot of flames coming out the exhaust port (with no exhaust attached) which I'm guessing means there was a lot of unburnt fuel left.
@expertgamerhacker9420
6 жыл бұрын
I did this and it helped me so much thanks for the help
@mrpopupmrpopup
3 жыл бұрын
Had my motor wide open but u showed me I needed another spring 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👨💻
@Rs817t
3 жыл бұрын
Lol I did something like this earlier to my Subaru 6.5 hp motor on accident and now I see this video no wonder it felt faster 😂
@cmh-re
3 жыл бұрын
I am planning to remove the governor completely on that engine, add a mikuni 22 and a rev limiter to 4.5k... not trusting the flywheel
@DRpotatoYT
Жыл бұрын
@@cmh-re flywheel should be good to 5500rpm, valve float occurs at 5000-5500
@cmh-re
Жыл бұрын
@@DRpotatoYT yeah, "should" is not enough for a flywheel literally behind my neck 😁 i made some calculations at the time and I was impressed by the forces involved given the weight of it
@DRpotatoYT
Жыл бұрын
@@cmh-re at your own risk, I personally haven't had a problem with the stock flywheel but to be safe I put a billet one in there. I value my legs when I ride my minibikes.
@cashman1673
6 жыл бұрын
An easier way than that is to take the crankcase apart on the output shaft side once you’re in there there is a plastic gear which is the governor gear you can remove it by taking the pim out of it and retaining clip or its plastic you can break it then put the crankcase back together and add your throttle return spring but if you’re leaving the gas tank on it you can go to the fan shroud bolt right above the KillswitchThat is the way I do it I never had a problem with it I’ve done over 10 of them and you can use the factory cable mounts
@jasonclemente4392
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i agree BUT for beginners who are scared to open the case this is a great method. Start them off with little things and work their way up to opening a case
@justinthomas8243
Жыл бұрын
You got a video of the process?
@gregorynage902
4 жыл бұрын
The spring going to the carb, to the left came out of the hole. At 5:40 when you pushed the cable up the first time and you never caught it.
@killaz123456789100
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting how you saw that..
@keitheverly1980
2 жыл бұрын
Gregory Nage, he was showing you how to bypass the governor. I'm sure he knew that he didn't hook the spring up, but that had nothing to do with what this video was about. I would bet $1000 he hooked the spring up when he decided to run the motor. You really couldn't have just bit your tongue on that one huh? I bet you were a snitch all through school and had no friends
@donovanswift5010
3 жыл бұрын
If you use bike cable, the bike shop has little crimp butt ends for the inner cable that won’t fall through the hole and is plenty strong enough if you really crimp it down
@alyo3299
7 жыл бұрын
when you are using the cable without the ball you dont need to use zip ties y woud use a cable terminal block its much safer
@garycollins5434
4 жыл бұрын
I have used fishing sinkers to hold the end of the cable in place also to repair the cable
@keithw372
7 жыл бұрын
you can leave all that stuff on and just put two small zip ties around the spring and tighten till you get the right rpm the gov kicks in adjust accordingly.
@noahnubbs
4 жыл бұрын
How
@keithw372
4 жыл бұрын
@@noahnubbs there is a spring for the governor arm, just add 2 small zip ties inside to keep it from stretching open tight till you get the rpm you want.
@noahnubbs
4 жыл бұрын
@@keithw372 thank uuuuu
@lechkenassh9008
4 ай бұрын
@3:35 that spring just kink it and put it through the hole the make it catch the lip and hold and you should have enough room to pu the tank back on. same way I run mine without removing the inner governor and over time it will get faster !!! or blow up 1 of 2 ending's !!! don't hold wide open no more than 10 seconds at a time and run some 2-stroke for the higher rpm's.
@jok3yjesu339
6 жыл бұрын
The governor is still there you're basically fighting the governor the best thing to do is to open the engine up and cut the arm on the inside so the governor can't do anything
@mannyquin9192
Жыл бұрын
Do not use zip ties. The best thing to use is wire crimps, used to join electrical wires together, slide it in there and crush it. I attached the spring to the ground screw that’s right below the fuel tank mount.
@fstngone
6 жыл бұрын
The governor arm is still hooked up to the governor,,,so how did this by pass the governor.The throttle cable is hooked up to the governor arm.
@nailgunnercolbeck
4 жыл бұрын
fstngone he’s just removed the throttle arm and connected it back to the governor, not bypassed the governor.🤔
@derrickd3156
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was wondering
@dirtroadie4642
4 жыл бұрын
But rather than the governor arm cutting the throttle you’re holding it open not allowing it to cut. Reach back when you’re riding and hold down the governor arm. Same principle. In other words free speed who don’t wanna crack open the engine
@jameo1095
4 жыл бұрын
another way of doing it, leave that arm on and bend the long metal rod that goes from the carb to the gov up into the little arm hole! and then you can attach the throttle cable right to the arm because there is a throttle cable mount on the arm! and I use the spring to hold the gov arm back and the gov arm doesn't go forward like that.
@NicksBikes
3 жыл бұрын
I just did this on my Huasheng Honda clone. No other modifications and now it shoots fire 🔥 😂 Pity I can't ride my kart thanks to a seized clutch. Just waiting on Amazon now 😒
@terryerickson4786
Жыл бұрын
Great advice, but did nobody notice that the front spring hook fell out when he pushed the cable through the arm. Gotta catch those things.
@ShawnWashington-q3o
Жыл бұрын
That don’t matter that silver rod what all u need tbh it open and close long as your idle screw is never TOUCHED
@brodyhays3599
4 жыл бұрын
I tied some fishing line from the governor arm to the original throttle assembly. Works just like this and you don’t have to take anything apart
@nobodyspecialdotorgrichard5971
3 жыл бұрын
I think i understand but can you please explain that in more detail? Thanks!
@mythical_boy628
3 ай бұрын
That lever is still the governor and is still doing it job, you just turned it into a throttle lever.
@Simple-dad793
4 жыл бұрын
Soo much confidence yet no idea what he’s doing
@NicksBikes
3 жыл бұрын
That's literally the only way to live 😂😅
@dougpalmer833
5 жыл бұрын
Right on. Thank you that is way better then what I just watched awesome video
@rareform6747
6 жыл бұрын
So a Governor is a restriction , like Jerry Brown ?
@atheistconservative6211
5 жыл бұрын
The People's Republik of Kaliforniastan
@tommclaughlin1041
4 жыл бұрын
No, like Cuomo. Prince Andy, King of the let-em free prison reform.
@slvrktman7824
4 жыл бұрын
A liberal governor is a restricting governor.....they try to take your freedoms away every chance they get.
@noahhoffman4475
3 жыл бұрын
this is super random but i just had 2 unskippable 15 second ads in a row
@wnewbury4
5 жыл бұрын
I bypassed the governor on an old Briggs and it threw the rod 2 weeks later. The governor is there for a reason.
@philiptabor2556
2 жыл бұрын
See what you need are some good valve springs, a mod 2 cam, an arc billet rod, a billet flat top piston, and a better flywheel. Then take that governor off and rip 👍
@martinsandoval8989
4 жыл бұрын
I did this on a Subaru go kart engine Wich is pretty much the same thing as the predator engine and it worked without a problem and it went fast
@OKFrax-ys2op
3 жыл бұрын
I removed the governor off my lawn more engine, the result a thrown Rod
@doomman700
3 жыл бұрын
Or zip tie through the governor spring to keep it from pulling back
@bobkelly2447
5 жыл бұрын
Sorry ! but your not disabling the governor doing it that way ! the lever from the crankcase (governor arm) is still going to push on the throttle cable all you are doing is reducing the governor's effectiveness ( it doesn't work as good as it used to) what you need to do is leave the little spring on the back so the governor gears inside have something to keep them in check , but disconnect the throttle linkage completely from the lever, yes that gets more involved because of the way you have to actuate the throttle but that is the price you pay of taking the governor out of the equation.... a longer lever on the throttle butterfly and a spring to hold the throttle closed and you then would have the governor disconnected without going into the engine to remove the internals.... I would not remove the governor lever arm because of how these engines are made , leave it on and just use a spring to hold a small amount of tension on it.... but you need to disconnect the carburetor from the governor lever arm or your not getting anywhere.... because at top RPM the governor will still fight to close the throttle even if you put a bigger spring on it ! ....so the real fix is disconnecting the throttle from the governor completely ! that makes hooking up your twist grip harder but it's the only easy way ! Bob.......
@wayne3340
4 жыл бұрын
Bob Kelly, thank you sir. I thought I would read through the comments before saying what you said so clearly. Put a spring on the governor arm to keep it inline, throw the linkage away and build a simple bracket to hold your throttle cable housing. Then your gas pedal is just working the carb directly. I see guys opening engines up and losing track of how to properly reassemble them, it's amazing.
@TaksieZyjeNaTejWsi
4 жыл бұрын
Hello. Is there a big difference to run gokart with governor and with bypassing it ? Can You really feel the difference ?
@hughesoutdoors5017
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, there’s a huge difference.
@domwhalen7348
3 жыл бұрын
I know my Go Kart went about 15-20 miles an hour stock and when I bypassed it it went about 35 miles an hour
@killaz123456789100
3 жыл бұрын
No not at all, people obviously bypass the Gov because it doesn't make a difference lol
@domwhalen7348
3 жыл бұрын
@@killaz123456789100 It makes a big difference at least on what I am doing maybe not for you tho
@jonathonhackett3088
3 жыл бұрын
@@domwhalen7348 i think they were joking
@koollee
2 жыл бұрын
Also may want to double check Valve Adjustment on new Predator etc. kart / minibike engines. Ive heard of some messing up because they werent set right from new.
@mixingsacks
4 жыл бұрын
Quick question for anyone, what is the reason for bypassing the govenor? Will it increase speed? Just wanting my mower to move faster
@chrisromine8789
2 жыл бұрын
The governor is just a rev limiter so without it you can run much higher RPMs
@Deucealive75
4 ай бұрын
No lawn mower needs the governor removed unless you remove the deck and just ride around on it with a manual throttle. Bypassing on a push mower would be really stupid.
@pjmillah2172
2 жыл бұрын
You can also just zip tie the small spring that is on the main throttle cable running through the middle of it.
@Ryan318l
5 жыл бұрын
The way I do it is I take out the little white button and washer that is on top of the governor gear and put a return spring on the throttle. I don’t know why no one has thought of this before.
@jamesbecker3203
6 жыл бұрын
The valves start to float and then it bends the valves I know from experience
@jman1239
5 жыл бұрын
James Becker wouldn’t getting higher weighted valve springs keep it from doing that ?
@jimholesaw6597
5 жыл бұрын
@@jman1239 yes, but then the cast flywheel shatters like a grenade. Then you get a billet flywheel and the connecting rod fails. Then your valve colet fails after you get a billet connecting rod so you need stainless valves. Its always a snowball effect lol
@dieselsmiths
5 жыл бұрын
Jim Holesaw ...I see you’ve “been there done that” as well😆 must admit it’s fun trying to get a few extra HP/LB-FT out of a 5-10 hp engine! My thinking brain has however did the math. When going to harbor fright(spelling is correct for all intended purposes) to buy a new engine it would be cheaper to buy a 15-25hp engine than buying a 6hp unit and getting 7-15hp with many $’s on hi-perf. Parts. 🤷♂️😆
@jimholesaw6597
5 жыл бұрын
@@dieselsmiths yeah i have about $1200 in my 30hp minibike. If you go with more displacement youll have more torque but not rpms and since we dont have transmissions. It goes back to that big block vs small block battle. 15hp with a 212 that has 36 jet a 265 lift dyno cam and exhaust with 26lb springs $120 roughly.
@jimholesaw6597
5 жыл бұрын
@@dieselsmiths yeah i have about $1200 in my 30hp minibike. If you go with more displacement youll have more torque but not rpms and since we dont have transmissions. It goes back to that big block vs small block battle. 15hp with a 212 that has 36 jet a 265 lift dyno cam and exhaust with 26lb springs $120 roughly.
@scottpeck1149
5 жыл бұрын
Gears, I did this to my 30 horse twin with no catastrophic failure. My predator engine gets the same treatment, actually install mikuni 28$ without any problems. Let us know your experience with this modification.
@gabrielwalliczek5071
3 жыл бұрын
I love how you just rip all of the tags and throw them to the side
@donzayy5583
6 жыл бұрын
Rather B Welcing so how did it go with the bypass is right way to bypass governor? Only asking because i see a lot of negative comments want to hear it from you! Thank you.
@michaeldickerson8175
5 жыл бұрын
All you did was change the linkage points you did nothing to the governor except hooked a spring to the other side replacing the one that did the same thing that handle you threw away is just to manually adjust the rpm of the engine and holds it in that position you need to watch a KZitem video on the governor removal there is a lot more to it than that
@emanuelfiliuta2779
5 жыл бұрын
That's exactly why the video tytle is called BYPASSING THE GOVERNOR not REMOVING THE GOVERNOR
@theaccidentalhomesteader3246
4 жыл бұрын
What would happen if you just adjust the governor control arm to a different position on the governor linkage. It would still be governed but it would rev to a higher limit but prevent WOT speeds. I don’t know, I’m just asking for a friend.
@Captainkleen
4 жыл бұрын
Now the way you have it hooked up let’s say you have the throttle cracked wide open the spring you put in to return the throttle really won’t be strong enough to keep the Governor from being engaged with the added throttle as you open it up. What’s to stop it when you’re on full throttle no return spring! Correct me if I’m wrong?
@nospam3409
6 ай бұрын
Unless the motor is going on something that doesn't need or have a throttle cable, like a tiller or log splitter. Then you kinda need some of the stuff you threw away.
@seanmingletats882
5 жыл бұрын
i just left everything and zip tied the spring so it wouldnt move
@BioHazardra
7 жыл бұрын
Predator engines are amazing i love them
@lennym1273
6 жыл бұрын
Just HATE the way the cylinder head leans back...
@Deucealive75
6 жыл бұрын
The only thing amazing about them is the price. Other than that they are nothing more than a cheap Chinese copy of the Honda GX200.
@robspear03
5 жыл бұрын
@Jabo ti bog Anyone who says "personality of a used condom" should've been stopped at the source by one themselves.
@Nemo-e6e
2 ай бұрын
take the rod that connects the governor to the carb cut it to size connect it to the throttle arm and the carb that way u bypass governor it will be a lot faster
@jondumbauld1430
4 жыл бұрын
Can you show me that kart in the beginning on the left !! I think I built it
@ThePowerBoots
5 жыл бұрын
big help, thanks. great content as well. weld on brother!
@mikess4158
4 жыл бұрын
how much faster does it make it
@freddieparrydrums
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikess4158 +2.5 bhp
@markcollins5026
4 жыл бұрын
Man, can you say Jerry rig !
@thewildbean4413
4 жыл бұрын
Helped me so much... thank you keep up the great work!!
@user-rh4ul9sw9v
4 жыл бұрын
I’m so scared to do this, I don’t think I will anymore.
@freddieparrydrums
3 жыл бұрын
Why?
@user-rh4ul9sw9v
3 жыл бұрын
@@freddieparrydrums lol this was a year ago when I commented this, it was because back then I didn’t have a billet rod or flywheel(I do now) and I thought my engine would blow if I did it
@freddieparrydrums
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-rh4ul9sw9v Oh nice, so yours is running fine without governor with those mods? Sounds like a good build
@lilvedo1
3 жыл бұрын
you can buy cable stops at part store to go one the end of the cable
@Omni-Rage
6 жыл бұрын
Gonna go ahead and comment in first 40 seconds.......Damn fine unboxing skill bro!
@justinkorzo3851
5 жыл бұрын
If you actually bypass it, you need heavier valve springs so you don't ruin your engine
@brysonshires9742
5 жыл бұрын
its not interference, you can float valves and not hurt anything
@joefair3391
4 жыл бұрын
@@brysonshires9742, except performance.
@The-Patriotic-patron
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the governor is still hooked up? Your throttle is still connected to the governor
@unitsgameroom2182
5 жыл бұрын
You should rename this video to "How to grenade your plastic governor gear destroying your 212 engine."
@ayp1938
5 жыл бұрын
Predators are disposable engines
@furhadnasserjah123
5 жыл бұрын
He has 6 of them that are fine
@orbaso9819
2 жыл бұрын
All you need to do is take out the one bolt not all this and there is also another govener inside the block that you can remove
@COLDWARCLASSICS
5 жыл бұрын
It’s a hemi !!
@gregv1852
4 жыл бұрын
Yo so i did this with mine and a couple of my friends engines and nobody had any problems until my friends briggs locked up and had the piston brake, the other people who did this (including me) all took the zipties off that same day, i have the preadtor 212 do yall think ill be safe to put to zip tie back on, im just really scared of it blowing up on me and my nice mini bike.
@commanderdraco6989
Жыл бұрын
Or take the whole assembly off and get a slide carb since the throttle cable goes directly to the carb and doesn’t need all that anyway
@boostedgraveljunkie5325
2 жыл бұрын
Wow man that was helpful as fk! My bike flies now😎 appreciate you🤘🏽
@AMadrigal72
Жыл бұрын
Have you had any issues. I'm thinking of doing this today
@trentonsmith9271
6 жыл бұрын
You have to have the ball end of the cable for your twist grip throttle which most people use on mini bikes
@robspear03
5 жыл бұрын
I use a thumb throttle. Twist throttle offroading is dangerous.
@str8smokinem
5 жыл бұрын
You haven't bypassed it you just removed the throttle linkage
@Luis_GonzaIez
5 жыл бұрын
Robert Clutts my thoughts exactly. I’m confused
@jtobarjams16
4 жыл бұрын
Nah fam he is bypassing bc the spring won’t allow the gov to push back on throttle it will just hit the arm but do nothing
@wayne3340
4 жыл бұрын
Bypassed, immobilized, rendered innefective, call it what you want, the guv- na is no longer messing with him.
@str8smokinem
4 жыл бұрын
But by leaving in the block it still spinning and reducing rpm because are inside is still actuating
@codyswilley
Жыл бұрын
The only problem I can see by doing this is it looks like the cable wont have to more very much to be at WOT. So you may be at Wide Open Throttle but you barely have to be twisting the throttle or thumb throttle to be at WOT
@jorgeolivencia7848
4 жыл бұрын
it works and simple . don't know about other comments this works grate.
@tyler-yu9ht
7 жыл бұрын
Did he say gingerly remove it?😂😂
@stanburdick9708
2 жыл бұрын
crimp a small brass tube to join that wire end
@connor6589
4 жыл бұрын
First of all The governor still going to engage second of all it is much easier just to remove the side of the case and pop the gear off
@Cronic318
4 жыл бұрын
No the internals move the arm which regulates the throttle butterfly to maintain rpm. This mod forces the arm to open the butterfly and does not allow the governor to pull it back. So with this mod the engine is free to rev as high as it can until it blows up of course.
@hail_Cyber77
4 жыл бұрын
The governor is still there and functioning. It is just being over ridden by the force of the return spring so basically the governor is not strong enough to engage.
@wayne3340
4 жыл бұрын
@@Cronic318 thank you for spelling it out. So many on here popping off without a clue.
@wayne3340
4 жыл бұрын
@@hail_Cyber77 correct
@moronstudios5365
4 жыл бұрын
My left ear though. But seriously thank you for the video
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